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Chernobyl was blown up to destroy the USSR and tear Ukraine away from Russia, - a study

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Chernobyl was blown up to destroy the USSR and tear Ukraine away from Russia, - a studyThe tragedy at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was deliberately provoked to the collapse of the USSR and the separation of Ukraine from Russia.


These are the results of an independent physico-technical investigation conducted by nuclear physicist Nikolai Kravchuk (he graduated from the department of the theory of the atomic nucleus of the physics department of the Moscow State University named after MV Lomonosov).

The results of the study are presented in his work The Mystery of the Chernobyl Disaster, published in 2011 in Moscow, where she received a certain response. Even before the publication of the book, after the first leaks in the Ukrainian press, Kravchuk was immediately dismissed from work at the Institute of Theoretical Physics of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine.

The findings of Kravchuk in the book review were supported by the professor of Doctor of Technical Sciences. I.A. Kravets and dfm.n. V.A. Vyshinsky. However, the results of the work of the scientist did not reach the general Ukrainian public.

Kravchuk asked for support from representatives of the Kiev Russian Club. Kiev Russian Club considers it necessary to bring its results to the public of Ukraine.

The scientist claims that the explosion of the reactor was pre-planned and carried out under the leadership of the Gorbachev Central Committee of the CPSU, and the wine was carefully dumped on the station staff, who turned out to be a scapegoat. Then the nuclear scientists were forced to justify themselves under the conditions of mutual responsibility and pressure of the “perestroika”. What was indirectly recognized before the world community by the Gorbachev leadership, to which all threads lead.
“In August 1986, the official version of the Chernobyl events development was presented at the IAEA session, and here is its main conclusion:“ The root cause of the accident is an extremely unlikely combination of violations of the order and operating mode, allowed by the unit’s personnel, ”notes Nikolay Kravchuk. That is, the station staff simply could not have blown up Chernobyl without a premeditated external intervention.
Neither the Ministry of Energy of the USSR, nor Minatom of Russia, nor the State Atomic Energy Agency of Ukraine, guided by corporate solidarity in the highly closed nuclear power industry, were interested in an objective investigation, and did everything to prevent it from taking place, in particular, they manipulated the station’s operational journals. As a result, it has not yet been possible to accept a valid official version.

From 1 to 23 April 1986, “the state of the reactor core has changed significantly. Such changes did not happen by chance, but as a result of well-planned, pre-implemented actions, ”Kravchuk writes. The fourth unit contained the maximum amount of radioactive materials on 1.500 Mk. At the time of testing, the reactor was in a highly unstable state with power drops. In addition, in some cells of the reactor there was more highly enriched fuel from nuclear submarines (plutonium-239), which led to a sharp increase in power and temperature in the core. At the same time, the stock of graphite rods damping the reactor was exhausted. Qualified Chernobyl NPP specialists (A. Chernyshev) were not allowed to work on the test day, and those who were then at the station “asked to convince test manager A. Dyatlov to cease the tests IMMEDIATELY, to stop the reactor”. Alas, in vain, as he received the opposite instructions.

In addition, most of the emergency protection equipment for the reactor has been disabled. "The experiment was carried out with the turbine generator (TG-8), on which the bearing was broken, and not with the serviceable TG-7." Vibration tests on enhanced vibration were carried out simultaneously with the idle turbine operation with a decrease in frequency and an increase in the amplitude and power of oscillations. After the steam explosion, which occurred due to a malfunction of the technical systems (bearing) that did not withstand the overload from resonance during the tests, the reaction of the transformation of water and steam into an explosive hydrogen-oxygen mixture (that is, the second stage of the explosive process) occurred, the scientist states.

After the hydrogen volumetric explosion in the confined space of the reactor, a seal occurred to the walls of nuclear fuel from “two or more poliyecae”, which for some reason was in the reactor in excess, and a local critical mass was reached, which led to a “quasi-nuclear” explosion. And only he could shift the “top cover” of the “pans” weighing more than 90 tons by 2000 degrees, located above the active zone ”,“ a plasma cloud was formed inside the unit with a temperature of 40 thousand degrees ”, which was noted by external witnesses of the accident. The presence of highly enriched uranium 238U hidden by personnel "manifested itself in the presence of an excess of California in the accident products" on the first day, Nikolai Kravchuk asserts, "it was he who gave 17% gamma activity, again turning into plutonium-239 (with a half-life more than 2 days - which is essential for the subsequent)! It is worth noting the seismic effect of the explosion of such a force, of such magnitude, which shook the building of a block weighing tens of thousands of tons - it could certainly induce a local earthquake, ”which was recorded. However, despite this clear evidence, the fact of a nuclear explosion, as well as its symptoms, was tried not to be acknowledged.

By itself, this explosion did not immediately lead to a widespread radioactive contamination. The sharp increase in radiation in the next 24 hours was due to the gradual increase in the reaction of plutonium and a series of explosions, greatly enhanced by improper extinguishing with water and sand in the hope that the contents of the reactor are intact.

“If there was an immediate understanding of what had happened, then it was clear what to do - no backfill, except perhaps throwing bags of boric acid!” “It was then, from April 27, the radiation contamination of the neighborhood sharply increased - dozens of times, so what happened On the evening of April 26 was inevitable, and no boric acid would help at that moment ... And if it was immediately clear, it would have become obvious that the most important task was to focus on the immediate evacuation of the population from the 50-kilometer zone. ” However, this was not done.

Noteworthy is the fate of one of the immediate culprits of the catastrophe, Anatoly Dyatlov, who gave criminal orders and was aware, and also about other tests on the block, which were supposed to "finish off" Chernobyl, according to the plan behind him, even if it hadn’t been done at the previous stage (this, alas, succeeded). That, according to Kravchuk, “allows him to understand both his actions and behavior after the accident - as if he had a guarantee against too heavy a punishment?” Through 4 of the year, in October of 1990, after official letters signed by Academician Sakharov, Elena Bonner, and other prominent liberal gravediggers of the USSR, was prematurely released due to illness. He was treated in the burn center in Munich. He died in a 1995 year from a heart attack. Georgy Kopchinsky gave the teams to Dyatlov, then head of the nuclear sector of the CPSU Central Committee in the Heavy Industry and Energy Division of the CPSU Central Committee, formerly working on the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, former head of the Department of Atomic Energy and Industry of the USSR Council of Ministers, then former deputy chairman of the State Committee of Ukraine on radiation safety, finally, in 2000 year - the general director of Gosatom of Ukraine, - and now giving advice in the field of atomic safety!

Perhaps he is one of the initiators of the harassment and silence of Nikolai Kravchuk. Both Dyatlov and Kopchinsky published their own descriptions of the Chernobyl disaster, which do not contain any clear versions of its causes.
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  1. shtabs
    shtabs 16 June 2013 07: 29 New
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    I didn’t even read, another “duck”.
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 16 June 2013 08: 19 New
      +9
      a local critical mass was reached, leading to a “quasinuclear" explosion. And only he could move the "top cover" of the "pan" weighing more than 90 tons, located above the active zone 2000 degrees, "" a plasma cloud with a temperature of 40 thousand degrees was formed inside the block, which was noted by external eyewitnesses to the accident

      the author of the article wrote utter nonsense. This is of course very politically correct for the developing relations between Ukraine and Russia ...
      The author, an ordinary humanist, writes letters well, but with technical knowledge he generally has trouble.
      Comrade, author, you would not go into the jungle of nuclear physics, well, not yours, not yours ...
      Thanks for attention.


      1. experienced
        experienced 16 June 2013 09: 34 New
        +6
        Yesterday there was an article on a similar topic, entitled: "Chernobyl tore Ukraine from Russia." In general, it seems to me that it’s necessary to “punish” those scumbags from science who distort the facts and use the catastrophes that have happened for self-PR hi
        There used to be infamous, the so-called "British scientists", now we see a wave of Russian historians and scientists who, for the sake of grants and fame, are ready to draw any parallels and are not shy about distorting the facts.
        Tomorrow we are waiting for a new article at VO: “They specially blew up Chernobyl to infect Europe” smile
        And I ask you to forgive me for being too suspicious, but maybe "is it not casual for zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh?" and aren’t the Ukrainians going to sue for this explosion of Russia, as the assignee of the USSR? recourse
        1. andrre122
          andrre122 16 June 2013 10: 52 New
          -12
          What are you trying for? Really for thanks.
          1. zart_arn
            zart_arn 16 June 2013 13: 41 New
            +7
            What are you trying for? Really for thanks.

            "Man", such presentations here do not channel. Most visitors to the site are familiar with each other's ideological and political beliefs, they all have their own, many are even dimetrically opposed - the more interesting are the comments and discussions. Therefore, I advise you not to show the intellectual weakness of your "Ministry of Good Deeds" - they "try" here not for money and not for thanks.
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              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 17 June 2013 03: 01 New
                0
                Anatoly Wasserman has long written a detailed and very correct analysis explaining the catastrophe with ordinary incompetence:

                http://www.awas.ws/HOBBY/TECHNICS/CHERNBYL.HTM
                (the encoding is clumsy, it is better to watch through Internet Explorer having corrected Encoding)
              2. ded10041948
                ded10041948 17 June 2013 07: 04 New
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                Rude then why?
          2. experienced
            experienced 16 June 2013 16: 52 New
            +8
            Quote: andrre122
            What are you trying for? Really for thanks.

            Quote: andrre122
            "Buddy" remained in your zone. Therefore, I advise you not to be clever and keep your advice to yourself.

            Quote: andrre122
            And here is the relationship. Comrade wise guy, and what is the nonsense? He even substantiated his position. From you only barking.

            Quote: andrre122
            That is the great mystery of the nature of idiots.

            "The most intelligent and all-knowing" You are not mistaken site? As your comments are not particularly fit and rudeness of them and rushing.
            1. Very old
              Very old 16 June 2013 18: 45 New
              +5
              Comrade Lieutenant Colonel, there are random people on the site, do not argue with them, just ignore or block. Not worth our attention
              1. experienced
                experienced 16 June 2013 18: 50 New
                +4
                Quote: Old very
                Comrade Lieutenant Colonel, there are random people on the site, do not argue with them, just ignore or block.

                Valentine, let's contact each other by name (who indicates in the profile), and not by drawn epaulets drinks
                Ranks receive for service, but not for cloning hi
                + To you for your desire to enlighten hi
                1. Very old
                  Very old 16 June 2013 19: 14 New
                  +4
                  In the profile, it seems I alone called my full name
                  1. ded10041948
                    ded10041948 17 June 2013 07: 09 New
                    0
                    But why? There are still abnormal ones. Although many, for obvious reasons, would be happy to completely remove any information about themselves. Barking from the gateway is more convenient when you are not visible!
        2. kiprei
          kiprei 30 May 2018 19: 33 New
          0
          But you will not argue with the fact that Academician Legasov was killed. Why would he be killed when he still had to live for several days because of the received dose of radiation. So he knew something that clearly did not fit into the official version.
      2. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 16 June 2013 09: 49 New
        +3
        Yesterday there was an article absolutely about the same, but it was formulated more precisely and more economically. What is the point of such a repetition?
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        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2013 13: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: andrre122
          At least he justified his position.

          Read better than the same Dyatlov
          The explosion was due to the design of the reactor. It could have sank at any nuclear power plant with RBMK. No wonder after the explosion they rushed to improve the design of all reactors (introducing additional protections and changing the design of the rods, changing the operating rules)
          1. andrre122
            andrre122 16 June 2013 15: 53 New
            -10
            I am familiar with this version. But for some reason, after the hunchback came to power. These psychos perceive the world through symbols. In addition, there are motives.
      4. yak69
        yak69 16 June 2013 22: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        Comrade, you wouldn’t get into the jungle of nuclear physics, well, this is not yours, not yours ...

        Honestly, I am also a “pure” humanist and for me many combinations of smart words in the article are not clear. But, one thing seems to me undeniable - the involvement of the hunchback and his gang in this and similar, but less loud, incidents of those years. Maybe orders were not directly given. It is possible that some indirect actions provoked this, but the fact that deliberate sabotage was carried out in all directions is a fact!
        Obviously, there is a lot of speculation and dark places, but for some reason it’s all coming up today (numerous articles). For me personally, it is indisputable that all these events occurred at the “right time and in the right place” (for the entire world liberal community) and were catalysts for the destruction of the USSR.
        I am convinced that we must carefully and not biased to understand this tragedy, as, indeed, in all others.
        1. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 17 June 2013 07: 06 New
          0
          I hate Gorbachev hastily, but still I think that the article is nonsense, he is of course a weak-willed man ... but he wouldn’t even like that, and the facts are somehow very adjusted, I crawled through the truth with only official information and talked with many people who know I tried to investigate this tragedy in great depth, and I quickly left the version with sabotage alone!
          1. yak69
            yak69 17 June 2013 14: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: regressSSSR
            I tried to investigate the tragedy in great detail and left the sabotage version pretty quickly!

            It seems that technically literate citizens, because of everyone, as they say "blunders," rejected the version of wrecking. Your approach, dear minusers, resembles the approach and vision of a mole - he also sees nothing further than his nose!
            However, it is not surprising if there are fans of Putin on the site, so there are fans of humpbacked and EBN.
            And about the accident on Sayano-Shushenskaya, you too, as competent techies, will say that everything happened there for technical reasons and the human factor ?! And Chubais has nothing to do with it. Well, yes, it’s far away, in Moscow, and hydroelectric power station in Siberia ....
            You behind the "mistakes" did not see the essence.
            1. regsSSSR
              regsSSSR 18 June 2013 03: 26 New
              0
              Well, you give a pancake except that I myself have not been shamed of the current in all these mortal sins! firstly, you can distrust me, but I didn’t disobey you and didn’t put any signs on the article either! and the version with sabotage at first seemed most plausible and it was one of the first to be seen right after the accident! This is clear!. Well then, at the same time, we have to admit that our special services at that time the most in the world are simply incapable of work, and it turns out that some betrayed the Homeland work on the ac and it’s saboteurs in a closed country in the USSR !!! which in itself is nonsos !!! you yourself believe in it! the personnel on the ace are checked and rechecked by special services dozens of times! In principle, in this world, of course, nothing is impossible, but then it turns out that almost all man-made accidents can be attributed purely to the deviation and not to the human factor!
              1. yak69
                yak69 18 June 2013 22: 00 New
                0
                Quote: regressSSSR
                at the same time, we have to admit that at that time our special services were the most in the world simply incapable of work, and it turns out that working on the AC alone betrayed the Motherland and saboteurs in a closed country in the USSR !!! which in itself is nonsos !!! you yourself believe in it!

                Now for me there is no question of believing or not believing in the betrayal of our special services, or rather, the top leadership and some part of the middle link of two of them from the KGB of the USSR and PSU from the KGB of the USSR. We can name two well-known representatives of these structures - General Kalugin and Colonel Lebedev (the current oligarch). In addition, there are open primary sources: Shironin, Baibakov, Ligachev, Ryzhkov, Kryuchkov. If these surnames tell you something, you can analyze their memories and derive the arithmetic mean value.
                There is still a lot of information from my own life, from personal communication with leaders of the highest power level and working moments. Not everything can be voiced today, but I assure you that some officers from these two special services (not all of course, but part of the top and executive level) took an active part in the collapse of the USSR using a variety of methods. And direct wrecking, including.
        2. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 17 June 2013 11: 09 New
          0
          Quote: yak69
          that targeted sabotage was carried out in all directions is a fact!

          This wrecking / counteraction continues to this day.
          But, the fact is that the level of a number of negative situations will never allow them to be recognized.
          It’s like at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station, the official version - “the studs are to blame”, everything is simple and intelligible. Is it possible to announce the version of the terrorist act? Of course not!
        3. Dilshat
          Dilshat 17 June 2013 11: 45 New
          +3
          All the same, there was a sabotage. And for this reason, having your agent at the main post of the USSR (and in addition a traitors carriage) it was a sin not to take advantage of the situation and the West used it 200%. This version is obviously full of technical mistakes that the version of sabotage would be considered obviously absurd. This was then done to bring Gorbachev out of attack. If some of Gorbachev’s actions during the reign of the USSR can be "justified" by the struggle against communism, "the development of pro-democracy, democracy, glasnost" then there is a real subversive activity that entailed major human casualties and major economic damage against their country. And this already smells of articles of the Russian Federation 275,276,281,288,303,307,316 and others, other. In short, the enemies came off completely. In addition, the Duga radar station, which needed a huge amount of electricity, was neutralized.
          1. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 18 June 2013 20: 36 New
            0
            you understand what that means! that Gorbachev is not just a traitor to the motherland and a saboteur, but a traitor and a saboteur who has received the country's highest awards in new Russia, sounds good yes! Well tyk then it follows that the whole leadership of the new Russia rewarding this person for the collapse of the union and the explosion as these are also traitors and saboteurs !! so chtoli !! you understand that after that it’s just scary to even think about all the other consequences arising from this !!! but I don’t want to believe it, because then it’s just scary to live !! the hunchback is just a weak-willed personality, by the will of the fate of other players, who has come to power if you want such a pawn with a crown on his head !! no more than that (BUT mu..ak a concrete one is uncontested)) !! but most likely it is he who has no direct attribution to the destruction of ace! I can’t even imagine that it was possible to promise a Soviet citizen (I don’t have a hunchbacked look) so that he voluntarily annihilated him, realizing all the consequences of this deed !! WHAT IS MILLION BUCKS !!! Yes, do not make me laugh at it would be someone nepashol !! Here is a shah, yes, probably for good reason, but in those days there wasn’t one of the employees who wouldn’t do that !! And no matter how ugly the version of the terrorist attack sounded (but not to name it another way) it is most likely just the negligence of the human factor !!!
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    3. atalef
      atalef 16 June 2013 11: 40 New
      +8
      Quote: shtabs
      I didn’t even read, another “duck”.

      Totally agree with you
      Vibration tests for enhanced vibration were carried out simultaneously with the idle operation of the turbine with a decrease in the frequency and an increase in the amplitude and power of the oscillations. After a steam explosion that occurred due to a malfunction of technical systems (bearing) that could not withstand the overload from resonance during the tests, a “reaction of converting water and steam into a detonating hydrogen-oxygen mixture (that is, the second stage of the explosive process),” the scientist claims.

      I don’t know what kind of * scientist * he is and who gave him this title. Already the first paragraph (for technically competent people) talks about the quality of the entire article and conclusions. Minus(-)
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        I don’t know what kind of * scientist * is and who gave him this title

        the stock of graphite rods plugging the reactor has been exhausted

        This phrase already says what kind of specialist he is.
        The rods were raised up and could be lowered at any time.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 50 New
          -1
          Quote: Pilat2009
          I don’t know what kind of * scientist * is and who gave him this title

          The experiment was carried out precisely with the turbogenerator (TG-8) on which the bearing was broken, but how did it work before that, excuse me?
      2. Very old
        Very old 16 June 2013 18: 50 New
        -2
        Major, once again: agree. - - - for a similar abracadabra
    4. Canep
      Canep 16 June 2013 13: 44 New
      +3
      After a hydrogen volume explosion in confined space the reactor
      The author simply does not know the design of RBMK-1000. There is no confined space. This reactor is a package of pipes, fuel and control rods passing through a masonry of graphite bricks. I did not read further.
    5. de klermon
      de klermon 16 June 2013 14: 12 New
      0
      You need to read this: informed - armed! Now we know one more "famine-like" nonsense !!! In general, the author’s behavior is no less immoral than the behavior of Yushchenko with the “famine”! Chernobl is an all-Union tragedy that spread across Belarus, Ukraine, Russia with a dirty radioactive stain ... The author’s behavior is immoral, because as well as most of the "new Ukrainian" ideas is dancing on the bones!
      PS Under such circumstances, I don’t feel like even squeamish about entering into polemics ...
    6. Doctor
      Doctor 16 June 2013 16: 48 New
      +2
      And if you read, it’s not even a “duck”, but a “ugly lame duckling”! It’s necessary to specifically undermine the reactor in order to turn a controlled nuclear reaction into an uncontrolled one !? Not even nonsense, but a complete "schiz". Climb to the top of the oak and cut down the branch on which you sit - you need to be a complete idiot with the author of the book.
    7. Very old
      Very old 16 June 2013 18: 36 New
      +1
      Anna Chap from REN.TV
    8. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 16 June 2013 19: 06 New
      -2
      Quote: shtabs
      I didn’t even read, another “duck”.

      Foolishness and desire to curry favor and constructive miscalculations in the design of the reactor and the automation system - these are the main reasons.
    9. GSH-18
      GSH-18 16 June 2013 20: 47 New
      -1
      Quote: shtabs
      I didn’t even read, another “duck”.

      I agree. Another bullshit. There is such a "proven research" in an online carriage and a small cart. Article -------------
    10. self-propelled
      self-propelled 16 June 2013 23: 49 New
      0
      Quote: shtabs
      I didn’t even read, another “duck”.


      "Chernobyl was blown up to destroy the USSR and tear Ukraine away from Russia" - well, yes. and aliens to blame for the collapse of the Union ... recourse request lol
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 16 June 2013 07: 35 New
    +7
    Nonsense, the first lines confirm this.
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 16 June 2013 08: 14 New
      +8
      Let the bullshit. But, for sure, you also have no doubt that if you had the opportunity and purpose, they would be ready to commit any crimes, kill millions of people for the sake of power, money, oil, etc. This, in essence, is the main idea of ​​what was said - that it is hypothetically “easy” for both its traitors and those who lather their little coin in human blood ... Maniacs and killers - at all levels of society. If an ordinary gangster is ready to kill 1 person even for 100 thousand rubles, then for 100 billion they’ll kill not a million, but at least all ten ... Whoever goes into power is driven primarily by ambition. And the whole society glorifies the conquerors of the whole history of mankind. The more you conquered and killed, the more you are glorified ... Isn’t that so ?! That you have lived as a peaceful cultivator or artisan and have not done evil to people in your entire life will only make you forgotten in history. And if you conquer the country, killing millions, then you are a great man ... And all the predatory animals - tiger, wolf, hawk, lion, etc. - these are laudatory names, and weak herbivores - pig, cow, horse, chicken, any cattle, etc. are offensive. To be weak is insulting. There is a cult of worship of power in society, from which “all legs grow” ... There is also a gender humiliation of the weak - most of the insults are feminine ... So, if you call a woman a cow - this is insulting, and a man a bull - this is more insulting. This is a very brief analysis.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 16 June 2013 11: 39 New
        +9
        In order to tear everything away from the USSR, a simple vodka and alcoholic of EBN were enough, there was nothing to blow up.
        1. Dovmont
          Dovmont 16 June 2013 13: 28 New
          +2
          this is the point! lol
        2. Very old
          Very old 16 June 2013 19: 01 New
          +3
          In Katkinburg, they hastened to call st. and a university named ... He was never a builder, he only knew how to destroy. I remember: knocking his fist on the table - "I will teach you to love communism" Neither a communist nor a democrat - NOTHING
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 16 June 2013 19: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: Old very
            In Katkinburg, they hastened to call st. and a university named ..

            You might think we were asked about this. We have stubborn personalities, with foam in their mouths singing EBN praises, but these are those who raped something from the collapse of the country
        3. tomket
          tomket 17 June 2013 00: 32 New
          +1
          it was necessary to live up to EBN, so that the distraught population would choose a chairman who would become the head of the collective jump into the abyss. Humanists who for the sake of world peace are ready to destroy a couple of hundreds of thousands of people were missing all over the world. And the fact that Gorbachev made strange feints for the West is known to everyone, at first it looks incredible and later it turned out that it was so, there are plenty of examples in history
    2. vilenich
      vilenich 16 June 2013 09: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Nonsense, the first lines confirm this.

      It would be good for the author to add to this article also about the organization of the Politburo of the earthquake in Armenia in 1988.
      1. Canep
        Canep 16 June 2013 14: 04 New
        +1
        It was easier to arrange an earthquake with a nuclear charge, about 5-10 people would have known about it, which would have been easy to clear out. And I doubt that for the sake of the great ideas of communism, at least one fanatic would go out to launch a reactor with his own hands, and here it was necessary to attract many people and not fanatics but scientists. And just for the sake of the ideas of capitalism and Raiki, no one will surely choose to intentionally blow up the reactor, and even be near it at the same time.
    3. andrre122
      andrre122 16 June 2013 10: 53 New
      -12
      Delusional Comment: The content confirms this.
  3. zvereok
    zvereok 16 June 2013 07: 46 New
    +2
    Idiocy. It seems that the Chernobyl disaster occurred due to improper personnel actions.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 16 June 2013 09: 11 New
      +6
      Our national "maybe" and "do not care", as well as the bureaucratic reality of red tape and football, especially in matters of decision-making, brought to a critical mass the situation at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and get what we have.
      Check it out. No one received the star or cross of a US hero for the destruction of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, which led Gorbachev to the Nobel Prize, and the USSR collapse and the introduction of 3 presidential posts in the CIA for Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich.
      And especially noteworthy is the productive work of resident Elena Bonaire, who skillfully held the reins in her hands and controlled the situation through her conspirators.
      What else can you fantasize about?
      If you drop the bottle ... and shatter it. So where does someone's mother come from?
      1. andrre122
        andrre122 16 June 2013 10: 54 New
        -7
        Moreover, you need to think with your head.
    2. Stamp
      Stamp 16 June 2013 11: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: zvereok
      It seems that the Chernobyl disaster occurred due to improper personnel actions.

      Determining the causes of the accident at the fourth Chernobyl NPP block is one of the most debated issues today. There are two professional camps that have opposing views on the causes of the destruction of the power plant in April 1986. The first ones are designers who claim that the main cause of the accident is the unprofessional work of the unit’s operating personnel. The second is directly operational personnel, who are no less reasoned, prove that there are significant flaws in the design of RBMK reactors, and shift the responsibility for what happened to the designers.

      http://www.chornobyl.ru/ru/chnpp/12-accident/28-chnpp-accident.html
      The most likely is the version that is associated with the presence of the reactivity effect of the control system and reactor protection.
      These are the technical reasons. Along with this, experts note the deeper causes of the disaster - this is a low level of nuclear safety culture in the former USSR. What is behind this?
      Lack of a developed system of nuclear legislation, failure to comply with the principle of full responsibility for the safety of a nuclear installation by the operating organization. Lack of attention to the human factor and its possible impact on the safety of nuclear power plants. Lack of attention to the experience of other states and the backlog of the methodology for analyzing the safety of nuclear power plants in the USSR. As a result, power units with a significant safety deficit were allowed to operate (positive reactivity run-out when the protection and control system rods were introduced into the active zone, etc.), which, together with inadequate actions by personnel, became the immediate causes of the accident.
    3. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 June 2013 13: 26 New
      -4
      Quote: zvereok
      Like

      Personnel cannot work in explosive reactors
      Read: Woodpeckers "Chernobyl. How It Was"
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 16 June 2013 17: 46 New
        +3
        What does the "explosive"? The staff violated the operating rules.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 29 New
          -2
          Quote: zvereok
          The staff violated the rules of operation

          The rules did not stipulate at that time that:
          Do not raise power again after stopping
          It is impossible to work at half power for a long time
          You cannot work on less than 15 rods and stuff
          In short, the staff at that time did not disastrously violate anything
          The reactor worked stably, there were no alarms
          Events went awry after shutting down the reactor (although pressing the AZ button should shut down the reactor without talking)
          By the way, when shutting down the reactors in the planned mode at other stations, the signals for power increase repeatedly fell out, but then they thought that these were just mistakes.
          Well, read you literature
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 16 June 2013 19: 43 New
            +5
            There are many different explanations for the causes of the Chernobyl accident. They have already accumulated over 110. And there are only two scientifically reasonable. The first of them appeared in August 1986 [1]. Its essence boils down to the fact that on the night of April 26 1986, the personnel of the 4 Chernobyl unit in the process of preparing and conducting electrical tests 6 once grossly violated the Regulations, i.e. rules for safe operation of the reactor. For the sixth time, it’s so rude that it’s rougher and doesn’t happen - it removed at least 204 control rods from its active zone from its active zone, i.e. more than 211%. “When reducing the operational reactivity margin to 96 rods, the reactor must be shut off immediately”
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 16 June 2013 20: 22 New
              0
              Quote: zvereok
              “When reducing the operational reactivity margin to 15 rods, the reactor must be shut off immediately”

              http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/CHERNOBYL/dyatlow.txt
              1. zvereok
                zvereok 16 June 2013 21: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Pilat2009
                Quote: zvereok
                “When reducing the operational reactivity margin to 15 rods, the reactor must be shut off immediately”

                http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/CHERNOBYL/dyatlow.txt



                I read, but you also read:

                http://n-t.ru/tp/ie/ca.htm
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 16 June 2013 22: 23 New
                  0
                  Quote: zvereok
                  but you also read:

                  Read
                  I did not understand who the author was by profession and who did the calculations for him
                  One main question is why the AZ did not work when the malfunction of less than 15 rods (by the way, this parameter is not displayed in real time), it simply didn’t exist. We saved on the sensor. As for the “personnel looked ...”, Dyatlov writes- “The operator evaluates dozens of parameters and pay attention only to the number of rods are not able to "
                  1. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 16 June 2013 22: 53 New
                    0
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    why AZ did not work in case of malfunction of less than 15 rods


                    Let's look at the technical measures carried out after the accident
                    on RBKM reactors remaining in operation, in the light of their agreement with
                    the requirements of ABY and OPB:
                    - installation of DP in the active zone to reduce the vapor effect
                    reactivity. - Complies with clause 2.2.2. OPB.
                    - change in the design of the CPS rods, the introduction of USP into the core according to
                    signal A3, an increase in the OCR, an increase in the speed of A3. - leads to
                    agreement with paragraphs 3.3.5., 3.3.26., 3.3.28. ABY.
                    - alarm on the deviation of the reactivity margin. Disagrees with
                    paragraph 3.1.8. ABY.
                    - automatic shutdown of the reactor while reducing the reactivity margin to
                    30 rods of manual control. - Bring in accordance with paragraphs. 3.3.21. ABY and
                    2.7.1. OPB.
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 16 June 2013 22: 37 New
        +5
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Read: Woodpeckers "Chernobyl. How It Was"

        You still advise Gorbachev to read about the causes of difficulties and the collapse of the USSR laughing
        Dyatlov bears PERSONAL responsibility for this accident, this is HIS brainchild. Do you think he writes bad things to himself? wink
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2013 22: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Misantrop
          Do you think he writes bad things to himself?

          He simply refutes the conclusions of the commissions.
          Every defendant has the right to defense
          You will not argue, remain a scapegoat
          Personnel actions are recorded - they can be checked
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 17 June 2013 08: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Pilat2009

            He simply refutes the conclusions of the commissions.
            Every defendant has the right to defense
            You will not argue, remain a scapegoat
            Personnel actions are recorded - they can be checked


            Opinions and versions may be many. And there are documented facts ...
          2. Misantrop
            Misantrop 17 June 2013 10: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Pilat2009
            He simply refutes the conclusions of the commissions.

            Dyatlov personally pushed the implementation of this "experiment" contrary to the opinion of ALL competent operators at that time, the transfer of the experiment time to night was due to the fact that the day shift operators sent it in plain text (perfectly understanding WHAT this experiment threatens with). Dyatlov led this masturbation. And now he is NOT GUILTY? .. And who is to blame then, if even he had nothing to do with it, poke a finger what
            1. Stamp
              Stamp 17 June 2013 12: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Misantrop
              Dyatlov led this masturbation. And now he is NOT GUILT?

              Woodpeckers are a pawn in this game, they appointed Gorbachev. Many people want to hear the version that the CIA agent Gorbachev, nicknamed "labeled," who infiltrated the CPSU Central Committee and became secretary general, played the monstrous scenario of the collapse of the country, invented by the State Department under the name "perestroika". Having started it with the Chernobyl accident, they arranged this experiment at night through the secret agent of Dyatlov and blew up the reactor.
              We are waiting for new articles from the afftor. lol
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 17 June 2013 19: 44 New
          -1
          Quote: Misantrop
          Do you think he writes bad things to himself?

          The same can be said about Academician Aleksandrov, who stated with foam at his mouth that the reactor would never explode and could be placed on Red Square, but he asked to bury himself at the Mitinsky cemetery, a simple grave, with someone from his relatives. he could have been at Novodevichy’s, like a hero three times ... This is to say that by the end of my life my conscience wakes up. Legasov generally ended with suicide (we won’t go into the version of the murder)
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 20 June 2013 00: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Pilat2009
            The same can be said of Academician Aleksandrov, who declared with foam at his mouth that the reactor would never explode.

            Well, he’s absolutely right, this reactor itself is absolutely explosion-proof. But to explode with "desire and talent" you can practically any product, especially - so technically complex. Ever see a regular assembly crowbar explode? Without any explosives, it is enough to drop it into phases of the corresponding power ... lol Just as bad as a checker
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 26 June 2013 21: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Misantrop
              Ever see a regular assembly crowbar explode?

              Did not have to
              I had to see how many times they burn control cards two times in a row, because someone said that you need to do this, by phone
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 16 June 2013 07: 57 New
    +6
    Today in the madhouse is an “open day”, so the next one popped up.
  5. valokordin
    valokordin 16 June 2013 08: 07 New
    12
    Judging by the conclusions made by Kravchuk, Russia is the main enemy of Ukraine. So I want to spit in this impudent face. It turns out that my childhood friend Vladimir, who dumped pieces of graphite from the roof of a nuclear power plant reactor, was probably in vain; my army colleague, a helicopter pilot Valery, who filled up a boiling reactor with lead, was probably in vain
    1. Very old
      Very old 16 June 2013 19: 09 New
      0
      VALOKORD, don’t be upset. Unfortunately, and on a serious site there are enough awesome ones. Take care
  6. alexdol
    alexdol 16 June 2013 08: 09 New
    -7
    This is where everyone before me does not believe in it, but for me, what is said here is not NEW! I read about this in the book of the Kharkov Jew Eduard Khodos. Of course, he himself did not come to this conclusion; another person did it for him. To the 20th anniversary of the Chernobyl tragedy, all sorts of studies appeared. One of them talked about replacing FUEL at the station! Instead of slow reaction nuclear fuel, isotopes used for BOMB were found everywhere! That is, no rods could stop the EXPLOSION reaction! And Khodos claimed that several attempts were made to EXPLODE the station, until it worked out! Who doubts, find the same Hodos on the Internet and read, I really don’t remember what the book is called, he has a lot of them ...
    1. gas
      gas 16 June 2013 08: 51 New
      -8
      Nobody will be looking here, everyone is used to thinking in the framework of the generally accepted.
      1. vilenich
        vilenich 16 June 2013 09: 18 New
        0
        Quote: gaz
        Nobody will be looking here, everyone is used to thinking in the framework of the generally accepted.

        Let you be innovators! Pull in more aliens here, there will be a fresh look.
        The author thrashed a bunch of nonsense and tries to hang it on our ears.
      2. aleshka1987
        aleshka1987 16 June 2013 11: 05 New
        -9
        Yes you are right. The number of minuses without argument is alarming. The author has raised the forbidden topic. Compared to this massacre, the Stalinist so-called "repressions" are flowers!
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 16 June 2013 09: 30 New
      +9
      Quote: alexdol
      I read about this in the book of the Kharkov Jew Eduard Khodos.

      And the Jews wrote the Holocaust ...., Poles Katyn, Svidomity Holodomor. Continue?
      1. alexdol
        alexdol 16 June 2013 21: 00 New
        0
        Tersky RU "And the Jews also wrote the Holocaust ...., the Poles of Katyn, the Svidomo Holodomor. Continue?"
        --------------------------------------------
        Well, what’s all that you listed? Apparently people like you and MINUS, it is not clear why? Rights aleshka1987 UA “The number of minuses without argument is alarming.” I voiced just one version of the tragedy that happened. You do not like her - this is your right, but where does the DISADVANTAGES! By the way, it’s not the Jew Khodos who conducted the research, he only based on these studies made this CONCLUSION!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 16 June 2013 21: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: alexdol
          Apparently people like you and MINUS, it’s not clear why

          Don't you confuse me with anything? For the future, if I put a minus, I must inform you in the comments. In this case, 6 of them were slapped to you, judging by your indignation, none other than all 6 came from me ... belay ... Now, and make CONCLUSIONS ..
    3. chehywed
      chehywed 16 June 2013 11: 33 New
      +1
      To the 20 anniversary of the Chernobyl tragedy, all sorts of studies have appeared.


      And what will appear by the thirty-, fortieth anniversary of the disaster? Maybe the scenario of the game "Stalker" will give out for research?
    4. Volkhov
      Volkhov 16 June 2013 11: 49 New
      +1
      Not isotopes for the bomb, but just 2 small bombs - under the reactor and on the side of the lid. There is also a seismogram of the Norninskaya station with 2 peaks, 2 visual flashes, and metal evaporation.
      After the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, only the security has changed - spn platoons have been added.
      You can guess about the reasons for the act and the performers, and the event itself is physically unambiguous.
    5. ded10041948
      ded10041948 16 June 2013 13: 10 New
      +4
      It would be funny if it were not so sad. Khodos is not a physicist, so there is nothing to pay attention to the amateur delirium. As for Kravchuk, he was correctly kicked out of the research institute. It was also necessary with the wording "for professional unsuitability"! Write such nonsense could only a notorious dvoechnik. Soon, we’ll cease to be surprised at all the heresy that corrupt media print. Who pays, he orders the music!
  7. Tartary
    Tartary 16 June 2013 08: 10 New
    -3
    Perpetrators are always there.

    But the wording “staff is to blame” is even more delusional, following common sense and era (!)

    Staff with "heifers" had fun or something ??

    Or did he follow the orders of the "bosses"?

    Who were the bosses, this article indicates. Try to refute and propose other specific candidates for pests or du.rak.ov ...

    But something about du.rak.ov is hard to believe ...

    Then there remain the "heifers" of the Komsomol ?????????)))))))))
  8. family
    family tree 16 June 2013 08: 15 New
    +3
    Dyatlov himself took part in the tests of RBMK-1000 and judging by the dose, the charge, the conviction and the fact that he survived, he is not a suicide. And Kravchuk, a rare woodpecker, and suicidal thoughts
    In 2005, Kravchuk said that if he knew what would happen in Ukraine subsequently, he would probably gave to chop off his hand than to sign the Bialowieza Agreement. In 2010, L. M. Kravchuk explained that never regretted signing the Bialowieza document.
    In 2009, at a political broadcast dedicated to the famine of the 30s, he spoke with the most severe condemnation of the activity of the Communist Party of Ukraine calling its acts "inhuman"then a member of the Ukrainian Communist Party present in the hall decided to ask him a question starting with the words: “After all, you were also a member of the Communist Party ...”, after which Kravchuk interrupted him with the words: “ I’ll boo head "(I was her head / head)
    There is no more sophisticated form of suicide. But the dream does not always come true, but the weakest. Everyone judges by himself.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 June 2013 13: 31 New
      0
      Quote: perepilka
      I’ll boo head "(I was her head / head)

      After all, it is interesting after the so-called perestroika that everyone rushed to stigmatize the party, of which they were members and leaders. Did you recognize yourself as criminals?
  9. VadimSt
    VadimSt 16 June 2013 08: 25 New
    +3
    Quote: alexdol
    Who doubts find in the Internet of the same Hodos

    Well, give ... Eduard Khodos is the head of the Hasidic religious community. Next, you can not read or search!
    1. aleshka1987
      aleshka1987 16 June 2013 11: 08 New
      -9
      Ahaha! "People do not seek, do not look! Ninada! I beg!" Cool comments today ...
  10. LOKY
    LOKY 16 June 2013 08: 39 New
    +4
    Lord, what a nonsense !!!
    The author should urgently take an ounce of pyramidone and half a pound of haloperidol! Will help.

    PS Although this will not help anything! )))
  11. vovan100
    vovan100 16 June 2013 09: 07 New
    +2
    It has long been known that the cause of Avraia was laid back in the creation of the reactor cooling system and the + human factor, the shift that had again begun didn’t know what kind of work was done with the reactor. (You will find the details for yourself). And the scientists who have served up so far have not changed their point view.
  12. pensioner
    pensioner 16 June 2013 09: 13 New
    +5
    AFFTORA - IN A WONDERFUL! Somehow, somehow, the morning did not work out: first Belarus and then Chernobyl. And already "Physical and Technical Investigation" I finally finished off. Already submitted:"Ukrainian Physicotechnical RESEARCH Institute". Yes, there is not something to go in - it will be scary to look ... I’m going to get stuck.
    1. Algor73
      Algor73 16 June 2013 09: 47 New
      +6
      The "nuclear physicist" Nikolai Kravchuk for "these" investigations was pleased from the Institute of Theoretical Physics of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine. But this did not stop him from moving favorably to Moscow, where he enlisted the support of a doctor of technical sciences. I.A. Kravets and Ph.D. V.A. VYSHINSKY, publish these works. So what does the "Ukrainian Physicotechnical RESEARCH Institute" have to do with it?
      But the article itself and these conclusions are complete nonsense. There would be no slackness, indifference, and also the belief that "the Soviet is the best thing that will never fail, that it will stand", there would be no practice in conducting experiments on existing facilities - there would be no tragedy.
    2. andrre122
      andrre122 16 June 2013 11: 19 New
      -8
      Commentator, you are already there. Calm down. Now the dohtor will come and give an injection.
  13. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 16 June 2013 09: 40 New
    +3
    Yeah ... and Chernobyl banged and allow myself to continue in this vein: we closed the detergent plants and put out coupons for whatever they wanted, and the NII packs along with the military-industrial complex began to transfer pots and other consumer goods, etc., etc. . and all for the collapse of the USSR ... Aftur presents it as a REASON ??? Well, for me, the root cause is the declining nomenclature in power at that time, and the whole subsequent follow-up is quite predicted by the madhouse on all vectors - the article is crap - minus.
  14. Wild boar
    Wild boar 16 June 2013 09: 54 New
    +6
    But the author seems to be right!
    I am an electrician by education working in the energy sector, and naturally I tried to figure out the reasons for the largest
    technological disaster of the 20th century. And now. interestingly - I’m not in any of the official sources
    found a technically clear explanation of what had happened. My relative participated in the liquidation (and
    lost health forever) and told a lot of technically interesting details heard from direct eyewitnesses - I made a fairly clear conclusion for myself - a local nuclear explosion. An important topic - the statute of limitations does not have, by definition, a big PLUS to the author.
    1. vilenich
      vilenich 16 June 2013 11: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Boar
      local nuclear explosion.

      And as a specialist, explain. The term "local nuclear explosion." Because, what is a "nuclear explosion" I can quite clearly imagine, but "local" ...
    2. Sokolowik
      Sokolowik 16 June 2013 11: 58 New
      +4
      I completely agree with you .... I myself have been there, too, all this time since 1986 I have been thinking about what happened .... 100% explosion was atomic in all TVs in the district transistors at the input (antenna) were knocked out this is possible only with atomic the explosion ...
      For critics, I’ll say: by profession, it’s not a tractor driver but a machine engineer who worked before 1986 with radioisotope technology
      1. vilenich
        vilenich 16 June 2013 16: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Sokolowik
        I myself was there, too, all this time since 1986 I think about what happened ....

        And I worked there in May 1986 to eliminate the consequences, but I have the exact opposite opinion. There was no nuclear explosion, even the nature of the radioactive infection indicates this.
        No need to retell horror stories ...
        1. Sokolowik
          Sokolowik 16 June 2013 18: 14 New
          +2
          If you are technically literate than explain the mass departure of transistors on the antenna input of the televisions in the accident zone ..... I'm not a scarecrow, because I myself soldered them to serviceable ones so that the guys could even watch a TV set in their spare time .... the TVs were with Pripyat.
          They could fly out only from an electromagnetic pulse in an atomic explosion, I hope you do not need to explain the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion ....
          I am waiting for a competent answer, but to just words .... At the expense of the nature of the radioactive infection, I also ask in more detail, I intrigued.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 40 New
            0
            Quote: Sokolowik
            the departure of transistors on the antenna input of the TVs in the accident zone

            And on other blocks like the equipment continued to work? Otherwise, the kirdyk is full
            Could radiation be affected? It is known that robots stopped - printed circuit boards broke
            1. Sokolowik
              Sokolowik 16 June 2013 20: 42 New
              +2
              On all blocks, by the way, in all places where it was considered necessary on radio equipment in the USSR, there were specially designed anti-emi protection systems .... TV consumer goods, by the way, despite all their shortcomings, were also designed wisely ....
              As for the robots, ours were done in haste, the Japanese were poking around with electronics not ready for work in conditions of increased radiation ....
              I interpret about the fact that in houses where there was no such level of radiation (as inside and around 4en., A block where everything flew), only EMR could knock out transistors.
          2. vilenich
            vilenich 16 June 2013 21: 34 New
            0
            Quote: Sokolowik
            If you are technically competent than explain the mass departure of transistors on the antenna input of the TVs in the accident zone ....

            This is the first time I hear from you. In our Oran, Ermine, Chernobyl TVs were quite operational.
            And with regard to the nature of the radioactive contamination, in a nuclear explosion, the isotopes would be somewhat different, but not iodine, cesium and strontium.
            1. Sokolowik
              Sokolowik 16 June 2013 23: 23 New
              0
              Estimate the radius from 4 blocks to the city of Pripyat and to ... (in Oran, Ermine, Chernobyl)
              EMR also has a radius of destruction ... Write off this for increased radiation does not work out would have failed and other details ...
              As for strontium and cesium iodine: there was a gamma of isotopes ... almost the entire periodic table ... another thing is who and how did the measurements and where did the data go ????
              1. vilenich
                vilenich 17 June 2013 06: 26 New
                0
                Quote: Sokolowik
                Estimate the radius from 4 blocks to the city of Pripyat and to ...

                And let's "turn to the source", or rather to the witness. This March I was in the hospital in the same room as a Chernobyl worker. He was in Pripyat during the accident, and now he is working somewhere in the Energoatom, I think he will be able to quite objectively and without bias either confirm your observations or refute them.
                Today I’ll call you.
                Quote: Sokolowik
                EMR also has a radius of destruction ... Write off this for increased radiation does not work out would have failed and other details ...

                Undoubtedly, the EMP certainly has a corresponding radius of damage, but it turns out to be microscopic, especially when you consider that only high-frequency transistors at the inputs of the TVs flew out.
                Quote: Sokolowik
                As for strontium and cesium iodine: there was a gamma of isotopes ... almost the entire periodic table ... another thing is who and how did the measurements and where did the data go ????

                And here I agree with you to some extent, but this would be possible if the infection zones were only on the territory of the Union, but precipitation also fell in Europe, and in this situation it was already impossible to hide their composition. And if it weren’t for this situation, then it’s not a fact that we would have learned about the Chernobyl accident ...
                1. vilenich
                  vilenich 17 June 2013 14: 04 New
                  0
                  I was not too lazy, I called a friend who lived in Pripyat during the Chernobyl accident.
                  He confirmed my words. He does not know cases of failure of televisions after the disaster.
                  He even said that many residents tried to take out the televisions later, but all of them were seized at the dosimetric monitoring posts and smashed before their eyes.
                  Something like this ...
    3. vladim.gorbunow
      vladim.gorbunow 16 June 2013 19: 03 New
      0
      http://edgeways.ru.mastertest.ru/public/index.php?doc=170 Здесь на мой взгляд самая адекватная версия Чернобыля .Автор Станислав Георгиевич Покровский , известный в Рунете публицист и учёный-атомщик к сожалению недавно скончался.
  15. stranik72
    stranik72 16 June 2013 10: 06 New
    10
    Actually, as a confirmation of the theory of controlled chaos, this opinion has the right to exist, at that time there were a lot of incomprehensible catastrophes and "deficits", and the ears of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union were sticking out to one extent or another, somehow it happened in 1986 or 1987. to visit one of the bases of the district consumer union, in the Saratov province, frankly from the abundance that I saw there were somewhat taken aback, despite the fact that there were problems with almost everything, even toothpaste in the area. to my question, but figs, they told me there is a secret order of the Central Committee on the creation of the National Assembly, so that the region would not produce anything and receive it could live 2 years. At the same time, there was the strictest accounting and control, in addition, there were a lot of poultry farms in the region that simply destroyed their products, there was nowhere to sell them, and it was forbidden to export them to neighboring regions and Saratov. And this happened all over the place, so that the humpbacked one did not appear there by accident; everything about the Central Committee was practically like that. And we are surprised how everything was prepared, and now Russia’s "drain" is being smoothly prepared, very much resembles the action of the former Central Committee, primarily in personnel policy and, most importantly, the utter irresponsibility of those in power for their actions and inactions.
    1. Sokolowik
      Sokolowik 16 June 2013 12: 23 New
      +6
      and here I completely agree .... I remember this time well ... By chance I had to come into contact with the brethren from the bargaining head. Mages, the head of the base at that time in the Gorky Region, was very surprised by the presence of everything on the bases and the lack of it on sale .... for some reason I got an answer- FORBIDDEN .... the products were exported to forests and landfills after the deadline. ... then these guys drank black.
  16. 128mgb
    128mgb 16 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    The second article on the same topic. And the same nonsense!
  17. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 16 June 2013 10: 36 New
    +2
    For the first time in two months, he put the MINUS article. I did not even pay attention to the fact that the author carefully composed. Deserved minus!
  18. shamil
    shamil 16 June 2013 10: 58 New
    +2
    The deeper you go deeper into the story, then this can be rewarded.?! now I’ll sit down and start to go deeper and harder (Bolsheviks
    They specially invented a coup to launch a lunar rover to the moon ..... In !!!!!! )
  19. runway
    runway 16 June 2013 11: 04 New
    0
    I would not comment, if not Wild boarwho wrote that the author is right ....
    As I imagine it, the idea of ​​publishing this (and similar) article is to bring the discussion participants to the idea that there are (and are) internal and external enemies. From Bolotnaya to sabotage at a nuclear power plant (and the like) is one step. Enemies must be destroyed so that others can live peacefully and happily. Today it is government policy..
    At least one, but there is someone who agrees with the author and public policy.
  20. andrre122
    andrre122 16 June 2013 11: 15 New
    -5
    Pilets. Is this a forum of nuclear physicists? No. This is the usual bark of ordinary people when they encounter something that does not fit into their matrix.
  21. Stamp
    Stamp 16 June 2013 11: 17 New
    0
    The scientist claims that the explosion of the reactor was pre-planned and carried out under the leadership of the Gorbachev Central Committee of the CPSU, and the wine was carefully dumped on the station staff, who turned out to be a scapegoat. Then the nuclear scientists were forced to justify themselves under the conditions of mutual responsibility and pressure of the “perestroika”. What was indirectly recognized before the world community by the Gorbachev leadership, to which all threads lead.

    You can troll Gorbachev, but he would not go for it, do not forget that the evacuation from Pripyat did not start immediately, and in Kiev people were also brought to the May Day demonstration.
    They tried to hush up at first, but from the Ukrainian side and only when the commission arrived from Moscow and made a helicopter flight, movement began.
    1. andrre122
      andrre122 16 June 2013 11: 22 New
      -3
      "but he would not go for it"
      But did he manage to give the country to be torn to pieces? Satanic scum did everything as planned. In such scumbags all methods are good.
      1. Stamp
        Stamp 16 June 2013 11: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: andrre122
        But was he able to give the country to be torn to pieces?

        Comrade, do not confuse 1986 from 1991. perestroika in the active phase began in 1987, processes were under control. The bodies worked well.
        1. aleshka1987
          aleshka1987 16 June 2013 13: 21 New
          -4
          Hee hee! But what about the Khrushchestroyka?
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      2. Anti
        Anti 16 June 2013 11: 55 New
        -2
        Quote: andrre122
        Satanic scum did everything planned. In such scumbags all methods are good.

        Sorry for the minus, I did not make out the prosony repeat and now the inertia has gone, unfortunately.
    2. MG42
      MG42 16 June 2013 12: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Stamp
      You can troll Gorbachev, but he would not go for it

      Here, with such “accusatory” articles as this one, the USSR trolls more. Then they will start trolling Russia, for example >>> specially flooded <Kursk>, you can even get to this in such a logical chain ..
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 16 June 2013 14: 05 New
        0
        In-in. also with Kursk, an example immediately came to mind, but said nothing. Yes, complete nonsense. The reason (main) is an unreasonable confidence in a complete understanding of the processes that occur in reactors of this type that have already been created and put into operation. After the experiments, they wanted to clarify the details ... Refined.
    3. aleshka1987
      aleshka1987 16 June 2013 13: 19 New
      -1
      Why didn’t he go? Do you think he really decided something? Do you doubt that now he is a clear enemy? Why was it different in 1986?
  22. aleshka1987
    aleshka1987 16 June 2013 11: 19 New
    -1
    So, to summarize the first results of the most popular types of comments:
    1. Sheer nonsense, I do not read, I condemn - minus.
    2. Shut up the author, I have torn patterns in my head - minus.
    3. Do not look, do not read - put a minus like everyone else!

    Thanks for the article and reviews, I made interesting discoveries for myself! :)
  23. andrre122
    andrre122 16 June 2013 11: 29 New
    0
    I would doubt the author’s conclusion. But it’s a very suspicious coincidence, a fact. Those who prepared the collapse are psychos. You can expect anything from them.
    Take for example the twin towers.
  24. pahom54
    pahom54 16 June 2013 11: 39 New
    +3
    The delirium of a man from a fool ... Gorbachev - a protege of imperialism - rallied the personnel of the nuclear power plant, who, as one, began kamikaze with the goal of separating the motherland of Ukraine from the city of Rasea ... The author was treated !!!
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  25. cartridge
    cartridge 16 June 2013 11: 44 New
    +1
    The material under a similar heading in recent days I probably already meet for the third time. How much can I copy-paste? It's time to stop.
  26. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 16 June 2013 11: 44 New
    +3
    muddy, but the fact that the management team did everything so as not to answer for sluggishness and unprofessionalism - definitely, where there is one, two spies have nothing to do.
  27. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 June 2013 11: 51 New
    +5
    Quote: andrre122
    I would doubt the author’s conclusion. But it’s a very suspicious coincidence, a fact. Those who prepared the collapse are psychos. You can expect anything from them.
    Take for example the twin towers.

    Also, such thoughts were .. at that time I remember periodically disasters with human casualties occurred .. I remember the boat sank .. and all this in the media from morning till night .. stores empty coupons appeared .. I remember seaweed and grape juice as a student. . I remember the broadcast on the radio .. the type of "in vain we defeated fascism ... now we would drink Bavarian beer .." and most importantly the cigarettes disappeared ... well, and vodka (dry law) ... Immediately Yeltsin appeared after Gorbach (balabol ) with the nomenclature, the fighter m .. yours .. and democracy has swept through the vastness of Russia .. Now it's time to collect stones .. Only again we are not allowed to live and develop ... they only act more sophisticatedly .... (two sons grow up .. hard they probably have to)
  28. MG42
    MG42 16 June 2013 11: 51 New
    0
    The article is frankly provocative
    topic video

    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 June 2013 14: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: MG42
      topic video

      Filmed the BBS film? Where could they get the talk on the BS-4?
      No one confirms that Dyatlov shouted at the operators. The instruction did not directly prohibit working at reduced power, as well as raising power after a failure. In short, read memoirs
      1. MG42
        MG42 16 June 2013 14: 10 New
        -2
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Read memoirs in short

        Write letters in small handwriting.
        1. MG42
          MG42 16 June 2013 14: 43 New
          +1
          I supplement even the view from the side, it says that it didn’t happen on purpose, but here the article claims specifically to split the country, and how much money went into liquidation + how much land was infected, not only in Ukraine, but Belarus was seriously less affected Russia, and now Ukraine pays a lot of money from the budget for pensions to Chernobyl residents and for the construction of a new shelter, plus foreign aid from donor countries. Most members of the forum negatively rated this article.
      2. MG42
        MG42 17 June 2013 04: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Where could they get the BS-4 conversations

        Dyatlov was not the only one who survived there, for example, senior management engineer Boris Stolyarchuk.
        At the time of the incident, the power unit of the 4th power unit at that time contained: unit shift supervisor Alexander Akimov, senior reactor control engineer Leonid Toptunov, deputy chief engineer for operation Anatoly Dyatlov, senior unit control engineer Boris Stolyarchuk, senior turbine control engineer Igor Kershenbaum , deputy head of the turbine workshop of block No. 4 Razim Davletbaev, head of the laboratory of the Chernobyl commissioning plant Petr Palamarchuk, shift supervisor Yuri Tregub, who handed over the shift to Akimov, senior turbine control engineer from the previous shift Sergey Gazin, SIUR interns from other shifts Viktor Proskuryakov and Alexander Kudryavtsev
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 17 June 2013 16: 46 New
          0
          Quote: MG42
          Woodpeckers not alone survived there

          Yes, I know who survived. Bring a witness who says that he screamed and forced
          1. MG42
            MG42 17 June 2013 17: 30 New
            0
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Yes, I know who survived. Bring a witness who says that he screamed and forced

            See below.
            Quote: shpuntik
            3) Almost all died, one he survived all. Does he have a special organism?

            You already decide, and then <bbs> knows more in thin films .. lol
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 26 June 2013 20: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Read memoirs in short

        Here are some more memories:
        Valery Lomakin, former SIUR, NSCR and NSSB ChNPP

        Here it is appropriate to cite such a case. Somehow, while working on the first Chernobyl NPP unit, I also, after the emergency protection was triggered, brought the reactor to power. It was not easy, water was pouring from the deaerator shelf onto the block shield, a film was hung above the remotes so that they would not be flooded, and here is the old Sovdep task - the implementation of the energy production plan. Practically, I removed all the CPS rods, leaving at least 10 rods in the reactor as it was supposed to before, and the reactor is silent, the acceleration period will go a bit and fail, all the authorities represented by the director of the Chernobyl NPP and others are upset, and I thought I did everything that could here literally at this moment a new change comes to change us (we worked from 16 00 to 00 00). Valera Belyaev was supposed to change me, his practical experience in managing the reactor began in Krasnoyarsk and, of course, was more than mine, but that was not the point. They didn’t allow me to hand over the change, and it seems to me that he just looked with a calm, fresh look and told me that there were four rods on one of the automatic regulators, there were somewhere around 1,5-1,7 meters in the zone. I began to remove the controller rods and the reactor as they say "went." In general, I passed the shift, somewhere after two in the morning, but we pushed the turbine and turned on the network. Of course, I was obliged to see from the instruments that the regulator still has a significant margin of reactivity, but, unfortunately, I did not see it. I won’t justify myself, but when you have almost all the Chernobyl leadership near the reactor control panel and dripping water on your shoulders, they look at you like a god, and I still take two minutes after removing the rods and naturally I get unpleasant words from the chief engineer that you pull the rubber, though I was supported by one of the physicists, now I don’t remember, because the regulations required such a two-minute exposure.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 26 June 2013 21: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Read memoirs in short


          Even before the physical start-up exams, fresh nuclear fuel was delivered to nuclear power plants; many of the personnel in the reactor department were engaged in the acceptance of fresh fuel, including myself. The technology for receiving fuel was simple and consisted in unloading the wagons (passenger) and placing the fuel in the fresh fuel storage. But the preparation of fresh fuel for loading into the reactor was a very responsible and quite painstaking work. The fact is that in order to prepare fuel for loading into the reactor, it is necessary to weld the so-called suspension to the fuel assembly (heat-generating assembly), on which the fuel assembly is actually installed in the reactor. In preparing the fuel assemblies for loading into the reactor, three shifts were organized. From 8-00 the senior fuel preparation master Volodya Sklyar worked, and we shared the other two shifts with Anatoly Sitnikov and Tolya Vasilchenko. Somehow, in a shift from 00 hours, somewhere after 4-00, a misfortune happened during the rise of another FA. When lifting it, the fuel assembly jammed on the bracket on which it was installed, it came off and flew down, while there were riggers below, since most of them were former installers, people experienced in such situations, I just managed to shout “Watch out” and, apparently , it was enough for them, and they were in helmets, but the adjacent fuel assemblies were badly damaged, since the spring-loaded bracket flew from left to right and damaged the soft zirconium shells of neighboring fuel assemblies.

          The next day, the commission of inquiry determined tentatively that the operator working on the tal-beam and, naturally, me were to blame. But my shift showed how the brackets for installing fuel assemblies were welded. Even personally, I turned off several brackets, turning in both directions. The welding places were spotted in several places and no more than a match head so that the members of the commission themselves were convinced that the welder was a hacker during the installation and did not know how to cook, that’s the whole point. True Dyatlov A.S. he told me so in a paternal way: if you had proved your guilt, then you would have worked out the cost of fuel assemblies all your life and your children and grandchildren would have had enough.
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 17 June 2013 01: 19 New
      +2
      MG42 Yesterday, 11:51 AM New
      The article is frankly provocative
      topic video

      Sergey, this video says that the test instructions were violated. Personally, I concluded the opposite of yours. I was always interested in this tragedy, I read what appeared in the open press. I will tell you this: the first publications about the "oddities" of this story began to appear after the departure of the "labeled" one, then they began to say that the type of reactor was one of the most protected, and there was protection from the "fool". Then a couple of nuclear scientists spoke out in such a way that there was a sequence of errors, and that it was possible to bring the reactor to the state in which it exploded only manually.
      And what did I see a year ago when I watched this movie?
      1) From above it was decided to test the poison reactors for resistance to nuclear shock. Did it make sense? In my opinion, no ground object can withstand a nuclear explosion. T. is obviously absurd.
      2) This Dyatlov, this is the second accident. He aggravated the test program, according to "his" desire. We assume that it’s not on purpose, as in its first accident.
      3) Almost all died, one he survived all. Does he have a special organism?
      Or prepared a place for yourself? If he received a dose like the rest, then he would be with them.
      The meaning of technological sabotage is precisely that it would look like an accident. When this happens, this is aerobatics. Take a closer look at the story of ShchB- "Nerpa" in B. Kamen. The composition of the mixture has been changed.
      The tree is recognized by its fruits. What is the result of this tragedy? The defamation of Soviet science, the Soviet system.
      You bring the affected territories, and a large number of people agree. But...
      Did Gorbachev and the communion elite really suffer? No. Remained at their posts.
      1. MG42
        MG42 17 June 2013 01: 34 New
        0
        Quote: shpuntik
        I will tell you this: the first publications about the "oddities" of this story began to appear after the departure of the "labeled" one, then they began to say that the type of reactor was one of the most protected, and there was protection from the "fool".

        I am not a nuclear scientist, but I have heard a lot that RBMK is quite unstable, on the contrary, at least at that time in 1986 and was carried out extra. modernization after an accident ..
        Its disadvantages include
        A large number of pipelines and various auxiliary subsystems require a large number of highly qualified personnel;
        The need for per-channel cost control, which can lead to accidents associated with the termination of the flow of coolant through the channel;
        Higher workload compared with VVER, associated with a large number of nodes (for example, shut-off and control valves), as well as
        A greater number of activated structural materials due to the large size of the AZ and the RBMK metal content remaining after decommissioning and requiring disposal

        Quote: shpuntik
        ) Almost all died, one he survived all. Does he have a special organism?

        The more time will pass from the moment of that tragedy and the more witnesses to the accident die = the more there will be all sorts of versions ..
      2. MG42
        MG42 17 June 2013 01: 44 New
        0
        Quote: shpuntik
        You bring the affected territories, and a large number of people, I agree

        Yes, this map eloquently shows that 3 republics of the USSR and areas of contamination of the radioactive area were affected .. In addition, many liquidators received a dose and died, and who simply became disabled. Eliminated the whole Union. A huge burden on the budget to this day remains for Ukraine ..
        Quote: shpuntik
        Did Gorbachev and the communion elite really suffer? No. Remained at their posts.

        The mechanism was started .., but I doubt that Gorby. I never defended him, on the contrary, go through my comments .. wink
        But still, you do not need to make of him such a great strategist who calculated how and what after several. years .. There are versions that are not being twisted, but there are twisting, along with the trolls of the USSR, it turns out the "evil empire", and this was said by Ronald Reagan.
        Until now, there were no such accidents and of such magnitude; no one calculated this ..
        P / S I have no doubt that soon a new article on the nuclear submarines <Kursk> will appear on the network in this vein .. but this is another story ..
        1. MG42
          MG42 17 June 2013 02: 07 New
          +3
          We finish this topic with the Ukrainian song <Chornobil Forever>
          in short .. << Chernobyl forever = such happiness we no longer need .. >>
  29. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 June 2013 12: 08 New
    +2
    Read the men ... and analyze .. Such articles need to be read .. they make you think The information war against Russia has always been waged .. but now it’s more cynical .. and more insidious .. And we have to win this next massacre .. The worst thing I think When in our souls poking around begin to ..
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 June 2013 12: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Read the men ... and analyze .. Such articles need to be read

      There was no policy in the Chernobyl accident. What to analyze? Politics began after the accident, how they tried to hush it up.
      There is a manipulation instead of saying the reactor exploded, they write that the reactor was blown up! Is it really incomprehensible?
      1. aleshka1987
        aleshka1987 16 June 2013 13: 25 New
        -4
        And why are you so afraid of the assumption that the purpose of the experiment at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was an explosion? What are your arguments? This cannot be, because it can never be ?!
        1. MG42
          MG42 16 June 2013 13: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: aleshka1987
          Why are you so afraid

          I'm not afraid
          Quote: aleshka1987
          the purpose of the experiment at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and was the explosion?

          laughing
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2013 14: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: aleshka1987
          What are your arguments?

          I just don’t think that the staff was a kamikaze, it’s possible after all ... to die by accident
          1. aleshka1987
            aleshka1987 16 June 2013 17: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Quote: aleshka1987
            What are your arguments?

            I just don’t think that the staff was a kamikaze, it’s possible after all ... to die by accident

            Are you sure that the ordinary staff understood the final consequences? But wasn’t it what they said on the top “Do it or take away the prize! We all figured it will be within the norm”? And after serving time or before, they said: "Tell the truth - he died!". I suspect that understanding people, not all probably, got out of there and did not receive lethal doses.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 19 New
              0
              Quote: aleshka1987
              understanding people

              Previously, they did not buy diplomas, unlike today.
              An ordinary electrician, of course, did not understand, but the deputy chief engineer who had worked with reactors all his life probably represented
              With a properly designed reactor and normal instructions, everything should have been normal
              1. aleshka1987
                aleshka1987 16 June 2013 19: 07 New
                -1
                Thanks for the sensible answers. I am not sure about the version of targeted sabotage, but I was strongly surprised by a lot of comments like "Bullshit!" and the beginning of inter-ethnic baiting and withdrawals in different directions. After that, I began to defend the author. The events of the explosions of towers in New York and the fact that history books will never be written the truth about this for political reasons make us look more closely at the past of the world and our country.
              2. Misantrop
                Misantrop 19 June 2013 13: 28 New
                0
                Quote: Pilat2009
                With a properly designed reactor and normal instructions, everything should have been normal

                In this regard, I constantly recall the technological instruction of the AEU 667BDRM. If on all the others, up to and including the BDR, it was possible to do everything point by point, then on the BDRM when you entered the installation in a couple of places you would come across such “pearls”: “But if you didn’t do this a dozen pages back (about which there - not a letter), now it’s shining for you in such a cripple ... " lol
        3. MG42
          MG42 16 June 2013 17: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: aleshka1987
          This cannot be, because it can never be ?!

          Yes. You know this as a priest with a machine gun in the series "fines", this cannot be because he never was there ..
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 16 June 2013 18: 48 New
        0
        Quote: MG42
        they write that the reactor was blown up

        When the headquarters found out about the accident, one official kept repeating: "they blew up the reactor, blew up the reactor ..."
        1. MG42
          MG42 17 June 2013 02: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Pilat2009
          one official kept repeating: "they blew up the reactor, blew up the reactor ..."

          Or rather, it is possible to formulate, rather than cast a shadow on the wattle fence? You are probably more informed, but do not agree ..
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 17 June 2013 18: 35 New
            0
            Quote: MG42
            Or rather, it is possible to formulate, rather than cast a shadow on the wattle fence?

            Unfortunately, I don’t remember which memoirs I read. Then, during moderation, some words disappear but it sounded like this: Ho.ly blew up the reactor
            1. MG42
              MG42 17 June 2013 18: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Here, during moderation, some words disappear but it sounded like this: Ho.ly blew up the reactor


              Yes, I know that they disappear .. lol
              So I remembered the Ukrainian song of those times >> rewritten on bobbins ..
              Nikita Dzhigurda
              "Cossacks rode"

              Їali kozaki, gurkot ikh tractor
              Rapa bilka richki by reversing the reactor.
              What happened here, you can not guess
              All from Kozaki began to eat vodka.
              Thursday Thursday, Thursday to Thursday
              In front of the store, a devil is awakened!

              Otaka Tim Kozak
              Fell asleep throughout the Union
              What happened here, you can not guess
              All of our country has grown buhati
              From Monday to Friday,
              I toddled prices on the hill.

              That moonshine, yoy, can’t get rid of
              In the beetles, they’ve got x-rays of oaths
              Gay, vi, lads, so you can’t live -
              Treba toy reactor pidli zalіpiti.
              Yak reactor will be at the cap,
              That Todi X-ray will become us to srasti.


              here you can listen to mp3
              http://www.moskva.fm/artist/никита_джигурда/song_1089739
  30. MG42
    MG42 16 June 2013 12: 09 New
    +2
    Part 3

    Part 4
  31. Averias
    Averias 16 June 2013 12: 18 New
    +6
    Based on the fact that for the most part ordinary people are not sophisticated in matters of nuclear physics and they have a vague idea of ​​the operation of a nuclear reactor (they have none at all). Articles of this kind contribute to the "ferment of minds." In the kitchen, behind a bubble of cheap vodka, to hoarseness, to a fight, they will prove to each other that Chernobyl was blown up, referring to such "competent" articles. No need to go far, I have such a neighbor. And the worst thing is that to convince the opposite is not possible. This is how they form the consciousness of the masses. Paradoxically, people are ready to believe in any nonsense, and absolutely do not want to admit real facts. If only there is more "dirt", more blood. That the sums would sound gigantic, and most importantly, that the "culprit" would be necessarily designated. What is described in the article is nonsense written by an illiterate lover of "sensations." I immediately recall Krymsk, the sensational article of one “specialist” in hydraulic structures went around the entire Internet. Whoever just didn’t copy it. Previously, they were held criminally liable for this. Yes, and now it’s kind of like a law for slander exists.

    PS That's what smiled at me, quote: "inside the block a cloud of plasma formed with a temperature of 40 thousand degrees." One question - what, and most importantly - who did the measurements?
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 16 June 2013 16: 15 New
      +1
      And most importantly, with what? Which device?
      1. Averias
        Averias 16 June 2013 18: 01 New
        0
        Here I am about the same. An explosion with such a temperature, also a plasma - there would have been a melted plain.
  32. zbidnev
    zbidnev 16 June 2013 12: 24 New
    +2
    Maybe not everything in the article here is accurate from the point of view of physics, but the version deserves attention. Events both in Russia and in the world (terrorist attacks in the USA in 2001, bombings of entire houses in Russia, etc.) in which there are clear traces of special services are quite similar in the scheme. Strange as it may seem, the collapse of the USSR was very beneficial to the KGB top management. Now many of them are very influential and wealthy people. I had a conversation with a large party worker in the past, he was already at the destroyed reactor and talks about rather strange things at the station (ripped off valves on a water cooling system, etc.). Please do not judge strictly, I'm not a nuclear scientist.
  33. barbiturate
    barbiturate 16 June 2013 12: 33 New
    +2
    it’s clear that it’s hard to fully understand the situation, the tragedy is too big and, of course, it was beneficial to someone. According to the incontrovertible evidence of respected scientists (which by the way no one disputes), the fuel rods found around the station were torn from the inside, it is not difficult to draw conclusions about the nature of the explosion, right ?. According to the same evidence (only the more unspoken one and fans would have to dig it)), the personnel of other stations operating RBMK reactors, more than once !! I was in the same situation after the reactor was “dropped” and I had to raise the power, while they noted that the reactors would behave extremely unstable under such conditions, but no one was afraid, because they firmly believed that it did not explode (when they learned under what conditions The Chernobyl unit 4 exploded, the personnel of other stations and units were shocked, they also did this with their units).
    Again, the personnel of the 4th block did nothing that would contradict the Rules and correspond to their knowledge of the state of the block. All violations they are charged with - were registered after the accident + a decent modernization of RBMK units after the explosion, again testifies in favor of the staff.
    Most likely indeed, an unlikely combination of factors + the most seriously manifested design defects and flaws (they were known about them before, but they were not fixed due to the inertia of the system). Although sabotage is not excluded, there are really interesting facts ...)
  34. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 16 June 2013 12: 35 New
    +5
    Rave. Sheer nonsense. It was correctly said above - at first there was an explosion, and then politics began.
    1. aleshka1987
      aleshka1987 16 June 2013 13: 29 New
      -5
      May I rephrase: "Believe! Believe! Do not think! Do not read different authors! Do not delve into!"

      PS The shopping center in New York was blown up by the Taliban, and Boston by the Chechens.
  35. pamero
    pamero 16 June 2013 12: 56 New
    +2
    politics began in 1985 when the tagged bear arrived. The USSR platform economic relations in the country between the republics he (the bear) violated them; the country ceased to exist. Gorbachev would be called to account for leading the country.!
  36. rus9875
    rus9875 16 June 2013 13: 02 New
    +2
    Their fools and slobs are sometimes much more dangerous, “insidious enemies” Of course I want to blame all the troubles on the machinations of Hunchback, but in the case of Chernobyl most likely there was really no malicious intent, our usual disorder is to blame True, this does not get easier By the way, why does the author focus in Ukraine? Belarus suffered much more from the disaster
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 June 2013 14: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: rus9875
      Their fools and slobs are sometimes much more dangerous

      At the Ignalina NPP, the joint of the first cooling circuit was poorly welded and it was only by chance that it was discovered
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 19 June 2013 13: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Pilat2009
        At the Ignalina NPP, the joint of the first cooling circuit was poorly welded and only by chance they found him

        An interesting interpretation. Especially taking into account the fact that all these joints must undergo gammodefectoscopy without fail ... what
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 19 June 2013 17: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Misantrop
          must undergo gammodefectoscopy

          watched the film "Chinese Syndrome"? there they simply propagated the films from one joint. so here ...
  37. sanych your division
    sanych your division 16 June 2013 13: 20 New
    0
    hmm ... maybe I’ll sprinkle an article too? about the Tungu meteorite whose fall led to a revolution in Russia and the collapse of the Empire? how do you like the topic?
    1. vilenich
      vilenich 16 June 2013 16: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Sanych your division
      hmm ... maybe I’ll sprinkle an article too?

      It would be nice to reveal the role of tsarism in organizing the launch of a meteorite in more detail!
  38. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 June 2013 13: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: MG42
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Read the men ... and analyze .. Such articles need to be read

    There was no policy in the Chernobyl accident. What to analyze? Politics began after the accident, how they tried to hush it up.
    There is a manipulation instead of saying the reactor exploded, they write that the reactor was blown up! Is it really incomprehensible?

    The human factor was there ... and it blew up or exploded, it doesn’t matter already .. It has long been .. Russia exports nuclear reactors .. and they are in demand .. (as the safest) ..
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 June 2013 13: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The human factor was there.

      Yes, it’s clear.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      and it blew or exploded is not important already.

      Well, this is not serious, <Kursk> was also flooded on purpose?
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It has long been

      1986 not so long ago ..
  39. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 16 June 2013 13: 29 New
    +4
    the farther from the past, the more conspiracy theological details of events. In about twenty years they will tell how the secret department of the KGB of the USSR prepared its agent Putin to take power in a ruined country. But in addition to jokes: the rationalizers who neglected the safety rules and the leaders of all levels who avoided taking all responsibility for any actions were to blame for the Chernobyl accident
    1. antispam
      antispam 16 June 2013 14: 08 New
      +2
      Specifically, Putin was not prepared, well, simply because other people had already chosen Putin. But many of these very other people (oligarchs) were really trained in the USSR. It is not news that the USSR planned to come to an agreement with the Americans and enter foreign markets. But project management was seized and perestroika resulted in the destruction of the country.
  40. Net
    Net 16 June 2013 14: 21 New
    0
    If anyone is interested, a reasoned version of the disaster http://treeofknowledge.narod.ru/chernob.htm
  41. Skifo
    Skifo 16 June 2013 14: 32 New
    +2
    It’s difficult to judge the reliability of the data in the article, but I’m not that the Chernobyl explosion was a Western diversion!
  42. 128mgb
    128mgb 16 June 2013 15: 12 New
    -1
    MG 42 bravo video for those who do not know how to read, NU supposedly lovers of our rush, albeit staged. + (Pian)
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 June 2013 15: 32 New
      +2
      Be careful with the name of the country ..
      If the stars are lit = then it means someone needs it, if they throw in one and the same article 2 times, the version <version> was not even commented on it yesterday, today it could not be left unanswered ..
  43. Wild boar
    Wild boar 16 June 2013 15: 46 New
    +3
    As for whether the actions of the then supreme power were intent on giving the well-known facts to everyone, just consider them:
    1. In September 1991 the congress of the CPSU was to meet. All grassroots party cells voted for the immediate removal of Gorbi from the post of General Secretary. He was at that time the first president of the Union - but legitimacy is a delicate matter - there are examples of this in the history of Russia. Would he remain the first person, can one only guess?
    2. And here, as a gift of fate (for him), the operative GKChP - the ban of the CPSU - The collapse of the Union.
    3. Recall how Hitler was finally legitimized - set fire to the Reichstag, the experience of the masters does not disappear.
    4. Do not create illusions, remember how G. Popov promised to bomb Russian cities.
  44. 128mgb
    128mgb 16 June 2013 15: 54 New
    +1
    Guys, look at the First in Space, EEEh, what did we do without them !!!! (drunk)
  45. Sanyht
    Sanyht 16 June 2013 16: 33 New
    0
    what reason they just do not invent, except for the main one: BEFORE EXPLOSION (DIVERSION) 4 UNITS IN THE COUNTRY THE DOUBLE RISE OF VODKA WITH THE SIMULTANEOUS INCREASE OF THE PRICE (DECREASING THE SALARY) took place ... all this happened at the request of the workers and
  46. pensioner
    pensioner 16 June 2013 16: 42 New
    0
    I came up with a topic for discussion. Russia wanted to throw a meteorite into Ukraine (they were naturally tagged in the Chernobyl nuclear power plant), but the drunk (and what else) operator of the meteorite factory incorrectly entered the coordinates and ... Well, in general, everyone saw ... But what? After such articles I have the right.
  47. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 June 2013 16: 51 New
    +4
    Chernobyl is a tragedy that happened as a result of the general mess created by Gorbachev. There is no evidence that he created this mess deliberately. Rather, by stupidity. Yes, Chernobyl stands near the borders of those Slavic republics: Belarus, Russia and Ukraine. Maybe Uncle Sam's overseas hairy arm "worked" there. But one thing is obvious - this is the great misfortune of the three peoples of the former USSR.
  48. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 16 June 2013 17: 05 New
    0
    If you want a journalist of fame - submit the material more sensational. I’m here to become famous, I’ll write that in the 2005 year the tsunami was caused by underwater nuclear tests. Also a sensation.
  49. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 16 June 2013 17: 05 New
    +2
    Chernobyl coupon system order from above to create a food crisis is the preparation of the population for 1991
  50. aleshka1987
    aleshka1987 16 June 2013 17: 28 New
    0
    If interested, I recommend an explanatory article on nuclear energy, which touches on many interesting points, including the catastrophe. It is advisable to read in full! Reading the headline and angrily condemning is not productive.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/151491-zachem-russkie-otdali-ssha-svoy-
    uran.html

    PS Yes, and teach me please insert a link, url tags give an error something.