The war in Syria - to be! And the reason?

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The war in Syria - to be! And the reason?


Yes, any - from the use of chemical weapons and to combat the bloody repression of the despotic regime of penguins. And if the second reason is more suitable for wars, the venue of which in the future will be the northern latitudes of our planet, the map called “The use of chemical weapons” in Syria is being played in full now.

What is your evidence?

The recent report of the UN Commission, the essence of which boiled down to the fact that both sides of the conflict used chemical weapons on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic, turned out to be very expected. At the same time, any evidence of the use of chemical weapons by the government army in the report is mentioned very mediocre.

I admit, I did not read the report. But, the indirect evidence presented to the simple viewer as the first truth was very amusing. Here and the French television report, in which the militants in front of the camera defiantly put on gas masks, and later, under the journalist's comments that: “The fighters with the regime got into the affected area of ​​government shells stuffed with chemical weapons ...” just as defiantly run and shoot somewhere— Then go to the side not covered by the camera lens. Strange, because the viewer would really like to see what or who smokes so behind the scenes?

Even more amused by the French results of samples taken from the place of the projectile's rupture with sarin, which in March claimed dozens of lives of innocent Syrians. In the samples were actually detected particles of gas. The results were also transferred to the US intelligence services as irrefutable evidence of the use of chemical weapons ... by the Syrian government army.

However, the Americans at the time recognized these results as unconvincing. It even pleasantly surprised many intelligent people. But, as there is nothing eternal under the moon, so there is nothing eternal in the conclusions of the American experts, who literally today declared that they have irreconcilable evidence of the use of chemical weapons, a surprise, by the Syrian government army.

Apparently, the American experts once again re-read the French report, and seeing in the “Guilty” column the necessary structure, they drastically changed their plans. This means that all possible “red lines” have been passed, after crossing which, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and a staunch pacifist - Barack Obama, almost agree to supply all the weapons needed by terrorists, and moreover, he is ready to shoot down Syrian airplanes and helicopters.

Surprisingly logical is the subsequent statement by militant representatives on participation in the Geneva-2 peace conference. Participate before receiving the first batch of weapons in the peace conference none of the militants intend to.

The game on our field

And in fact, no one in the West takes it seriously. A vivid confirmation of this is the complete disregard of the evidence that was collected and personally handed over to the camera by the UN commission on investigating the use of chemical weapons in Syria, the Russian journalist Anastasia Popova.

A flash drive with video footage showing video footage of the consequences of the March chemical attack of terrorists: civilians with signs of sarin poisoning, doctors commenting on the situation, as well as the very place of the fall of the projectile with yellowed earth, as it was written earlier not logged in

Later, a Russian journalist on the sidelines asked a representative of the commission a logical question: “Well, and?”, To which an equally complete answer was received in the spirit: “There was a lot of video! And we just did not have time to get acquainted with them! ”Bravo!

In addition, we should also recall the reaction of Western representatives to the statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov regarding the need to thoroughly investigate the case of terrorists arrested in Turkey who were detained in a territory with several sarin cylinders bordering Syria. The reaction of the West has been reduced to something like the following: “Yes, yes, it is obligatory!”

The security services of Turkey, embarrassed before the West, also promptly worked. The detainees were released, and allegations of several kilograms of poison gas were found to be “misinterpreted.”

Consequences of the game

As a result, in fact, we have increased diplomatic pressure exerted on Syria by the West. The term “Protection against chemical weapons” is heard in each of his statements on issues related to international intervention in Syria.

Here you and the deployment of missile systems "Patriot" in Turkey to protect against "chemical shells", which can release the government army of Syria. Here is also an occasion for mass exercises involving the US military in Jordan with the development of situations to combat the consequences of the possible use of chemical weapons. And again, the deployment of Patriot missile systems on the territory of the above-named state.

At the same time, representatives of the NATO bloc and, in fact, the UN insistently demand that the Syrian government give international inspectors access to the entire territory of Syria to investigate the criminal activities of the “Bloody Regime” (see “Legal Government”) and, in fact, possible misconduct on the part of the “Democratic revolutionaries "(see." Those same carrion-eaters ").

In parallel with these events, many politicians, both in the US and in Europe, are demanding to bomb practically all Syria so that the Syrian people will not suffer from poisonous gases. Humanism for what it is.

Results

To talk about all the diplomatic "chemical" overtures to Syria is simply not interesting. It is more interesting to look at the consequences of these phrases.

In the United States, in principle, a formal decision has been taken on the armed support of terrorists operating in Syria. In parallel with this, without being able to present clear evidence of the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government army, the West is stirring up public opinion regarding the need to protect Syrians from "themselves" by conducting armed intervention with limited forces. Although, somewhere the author of this material had a chance to read that for such an action it would be necessary to introduce into the territory of Syria about eighty thousand western soldiers.

Not in words, but in fact, the US is equipping its neighbors with Syria with the necessary weapons for intervention, while at the same time Russia, through the mouth of its leader, is still intending to deliver missile weapons to Syria.

And so it turns out that the clouds are gathering over Syria. And as before the coming rain, a dryish taste of such a deja vu arises in the air, connected with the Iraq events of a decade ago.

I think it makes no sense to talk about them.

However, one important “BUT!” Is evident. This is Russia's position vis-à-vis Syria, thanks to which the conflict in Syria also recalls the numerous conflicts of the Cold War era, during which the Great Powers, by filling the region with necessary weapons, defended their own interests . The consequence of such measures were protracted conflicts, which were resolved only as a result of the crisis in one of the Great Powers.

What we have today: The economic crisis in Europe and the United States, the relative growth of Russia. And as you know, the best way to get out of any crisis is a good war. What we have at the moment: the Syrian government army is advancing, Russia is increasing its presence in the Mediterranean, which means that the balance is on our side.

And losing to the West is death like. So on the agenda is the "Chemical Theme in Syria". Not to be confused with Iraq 2003 of the year. But do not forget how bitter experience.
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  1. +13
    15 June 2013 07: 15
    My wife expresses herself about such democratizers: "GADENYSH".
    1. +13
      15 June 2013 07: 26
      Good morning everybody. Thanks to CARAVAN for the sensible article with a share of healthy sarcasm. I agree in almost everything. I will only add that we are witnessing the next series of comedy posed by the democrats, staged according to the same principles and patterns that were run in Iraq and later in Libya.
      The states will not directly enter the war, despite numerous warnings and threats. It’s scary - the financial situation is not rosy, Assad’s weapons are not the same as Gaddafi’s at one time (large losses cannot be avoided), and there is no unity in the western camp. Everything will be done with the hands of rabble, with the money of the monarchies of the gulf. Only when the Syrian army loses a significant part of its potential, when there are changes in the psychological mood of ordinary Syrians who now support Assad (which is unlikely, but is not excluded), then brave stripes appear on the devastated land to appropriate the victory made by the hands of others.
      But - this is one scenario. And the other - constantly setting hired rabble, carefully monitor what is happening and wait for the result. And if the situation develops awfully for mercenaries, simply merge them, pretend that “we are not against it because they understood that terrorists are terrorists and they threaten us the same. ” After all, a version has already appeared in the media that the West specifically provoked a conflict in the East, so that the East itself could overwhelm Islam.
      And if we take into account the shift in emphasis in covering the situation in the East (Western media began to pay more attention to the problem with Iran), then this scenario is more real.
      1. 0
        15 June 2013 07: 37
        Quote: esaul
        But - this is one scenario.

        I welcome Valery. Just the answer to your scenarios was voiced in NATO and the USA. And they both do not want to fight in Syria. It is proposed to launch new mercenaries there
        1. 0
          15 June 2013 12: 30
          Quote: domokl
          ... NATO and the USA. And they both do not want to fight in Syria

          And this is generally not surprising. It is not fashionable to start hostilities at the country level. The same amers will send their instructors to Jordan, Turkey, Libya (???) and private security companies will send "guard". Contractors, and in Russian, their own mercenaries. And the state is on the sidelines. The Syrian bandits will receive reinforcements. And the Pentagon, with support, will not stand aside. Here, something like this can happen.
      2. +2
        15 June 2013 11: 53
        Now you understand why and why Stalin purged before the war? In Belgium there was a failure of our intelligence services - the neighbors called the police, maybe they got drunk and yelled loudly ... And now they are innocently suffering!
        1. cartridge
          0
          15 June 2013 12: 25
          Putin should voice the position of Russia: the very first supply of weapons by the West to Syria will automatically mean the start of supplies of C-300 to Iran!
          1. +4
            15 June 2013 13: 15
            Quote: cartridge
            Putin should voice the position of Russia: the very first supply of weapons by the West to Syria will automatically mean the start of supplies of C-300 to Iran!

            So he will voice!
            But C-300 will not ship. And then he will accuse of disruptions in the supply of liberals in the government.
    2. 0
      15 June 2013 07: 29
      Quote: My address
      My wife expresses herself about such democratizers: "GADENISHES"

      Is your wife a politically active person too? Watching the situation in the world? No, better let a woman be at home, in politics she will not find anything good!
    3. +7
      15 June 2013 07: 54
      A caravan, if there had not been an offensive by the Syrian army and the defeat of terrorists in many places, the United States could have waited and simply swelled the loot into new cannon fodder. Now seeing what they are losing to them, how the air should help terrorists.
      With regard to the requirements of the UN and NATO to allow specialists to Syria, but this also happened.
      Saddam was required to admit specialists to his palaces, and so what? They got the admission, they didn’t find the chemistry and this didn’t prevent the warrior.
      The slogan will be any and, in essence, cruise missile attacks can start at any moment.
      In today's world, warriors begin without warning. Hitler has good students.
      1. +1
        15 June 2013 08: 27
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Now seeing what they are losing to them, how the air should help terrorists.

        The operation to destroy Syria as an independent state, which began so cool for the USA and the Company, is breaking down. The funds have been tampered with, the image is corrupted, how not to start hysteria and frantically try to recover what was lost.ANY means ...
        1. skeptic-
          +2
          15 June 2013 10: 42
          Quote: Corsair
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Now seeing what they are losing to them, how the air should help terrorists.
          The operation to destroy Syria as an independent state, which began so cool for the USA and the Company, is breaking down. The funds have been tampered with, the image is corrupted, how not to start hysterical and frantically trying to recover what was lost. ANY means ...


          A vivid confirmation of this is the complete disregard for the evidence that she collected and handed in front of the camera to the UN commission to investigate the use of chemical weapons in Syria, Russian journalist Anastasia Popova.

          A flash drive with video footage showing video footage of the consequences of the March chemical attack of terrorists: civilians with signs of sarin poisoning, doctors commenting on the situation, as well as the very place of the fall of the projectile with yellowed earth, as it was written earlier not logged in

          Later, a Russian journalist on the sidelines asked a representative of the commission a logical question: “Well, and?”, To which an equally complete answer was received in the spirit: “There was a lot of video! And we just did not have time to get acquainted with them! ”Bravo!

          In addition, we should also recall the reaction of Western representatives to the statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov regarding the need to thoroughly investigate the case of terrorists arrested in Turkey who were detained in a territory with several sarin cylinders bordering Syria. The reaction of the West has been reduced to something like the following: “Yes, yes, it is obligatory!”


          Nothing breaks with them (to my great regret), more like pulling Russia into a political mousetrap not yet realized by us. At a minimum - discrediting our country.
          Right now, Russian TV working in the West needs to constantly scroll through all the videos on the true state of affairs with weapons. Including the United States purchases of our weapons and ammunition, as well as the planned deliveries to its bandits, to Syria.

          The information war is now in full swing and the delay in introducing facts - like death. Or defeat, with far-reaching consequences.
      2. 0
        15 June 2013 13: 22
        Quote: esaul
        And the other - constantly setting hired rabble, carefully monitor what is happening and wait for the result. And if the situation develops awfully for mercenaries, simply merge them, pretend that “we are not against it because they understood that terrorists are terrorists and they threaten us the same. ” After all, a version has already appeared in the media that the West specifically provoked a conflict in the East, so that the East itself could overwhelm Islam.


        Russia is not in vain covering its south with a powerful grouping, constantly strengthening it ...
        A little later, the borders to the east of Kazakhstan will also be covered.
        The second scenario is the most realistic. I agree ...
        Russia managed to concentrate, therefore, they will seek the self-destruction of radical Islam in the cauldron of existing, and possibly future local wars ...

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        if there hadn’t been an offensive by the Syrian army and the defeat of terrorists in many places, the United States could have waited and just swelled the loot into new cannon fodder. Now seeing what they are losing to them, how the air should help terrorists.

        Based on the conclusions of Esaul, after adding your assumptions, maybe Russia can take on the function of feeding those and those?)))
        Everything is already right ... the USA continues and will continue to play the bad, And where will they go now? When Russia does not cease to be good in nature ...
        We need to stay focused until the end of the plot, no matter how it ends ...

        Let .. sing to whom it should be.
      3. +1
        15 June 2013 16: 35
        Some Kyrgyz Republic does not dump Syria. Still, their air defense is strong and without C-300. And then the aircraft will work. So it will be very difficult for them to break through to the protected objects and mainly non-military objects will suffer. The West needs to conduct a full-fledged air operation.
    4. dominion
      +1
      15 June 2013 10: 39
      And what about your wife?
    5. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 21
      Islamist gangs pushed back from Ming airfield in Syrian province of Aleppo



      The command of the Syrian army on the eve denied the statements of the militants and a number of media outlets that the Islamist bandit groups were able to seize part of the Ming (Minneg) airbase north of Aleppo. According to official data, the military "successfully repulsed attempts by terrorists to approach the airfield."

      Recall that on June 5-11, militants of the Jaysh Muhajirin wal-Ansar and Jabhat al-Nusra groups made several attempts to storm a complex of buildings on the territory of the Ming military airfield. First, they were subjected to shelling from mortars, RPGs and one tank gun, after which on June 10, bandit groups of extremists went on a "decisive assault." It was attended by up to 15 suicide bombers and personally the leader of "Jaysh Mukhajirin" Ingush "amir" Abu Umar Ash-Shishani.

      According to the bandits from the Russian North Caucasus, who make up the backbone of the Jaysh Mukhajirin group, during the day they managed to capture a water tower and a radar complex (although the latter was photographed from a decent distance). Militants from "Jabhat al-Nusra" generally announced on the evening of June 11 that part of the main building had already been seized.

      In fact, really intense skirmishes took place on June 10-11 directly on the territory of the base (which is confirmed by the videos of militants posted on the network), but neither the buildings, nor even the buildings of the air base were seized on June 10, or even occupied on June 11, for a very short time.

      The last assault attempt made on the night of June 11 was also repulsed. About 20 attackers were killed, including the "chief of staff" of the Islamists, Abu Talha Iraqi. In addition to this, the positions of the bandit groups were subjected to airstrikes, as a result of which they suffered losses and were again thrown out of the air base.

      Despite the significant losses of the gangs, it’s too early to talk about the deblockade of the air base. At the same time, with the start of the operation to liberate Aleppo, the chances of success for the militants at the Ming airfield are becoming less and less. On June 12, the Syrian Air Force again launched a series of attacks on their shelters around the perimeter of a military facility.
    6. +1
      15 June 2013 13: 23
      The USA will leave not only fighters and air defense systems, but also the marines after the exercises in Jordan



      After the end of the international eager lion exercises, the United States will leave f-16 fighter jets and anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) patriot in Jordan, the France Presse told the Pentagon.

      Earlier, Washington emphasized that it did not intend to leave troops in Jordan after the end of military maneuvers. Jordanian Army Major-General Aouni Al-Adwan said that “no foreign troops will remain in the country after the completion of the exercises. And patriot complexes and f-16 aircraft will remain only if the Jordanian government asks for it. ”

      No one doubted that such a request would follow. After consultations with the US Jordanian authorities, in addition to the patriot air defense systems and f-16 aircraft, several landing ships with marine corps units are left off the coast of Jordan.

      The military “eight eager lion” (Impatient Lion) taking place in Jordan since June 9 is attended by eighteen countries: Jordan, the USA, Great Britain, Bahrain, Canada, the Czech Republic, Egypt, France, Iraq, Italy, Lebanon, Pakistan, Poland, Qatar, Turkey, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

      According to the legend of the exercises, the troops are fulfilling the invasion of coalition forces in the southern regions of the neighboring country covered by the civil war, including under the conditions of using chemical weapons.

      The script is completely transparent and clearly directed against Syria, although Washington says they are not. The exercises will last until June 21. They are attended by 4,5 soldiers and officers.

      On July 13, US President Barack Obama announced that a decision had been made to begin military support for the "Syrian rebels", although the form in which this support would be provided was not reported.
    7. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 23
      US decided to start direct military assistance to Syrian militants



      US presidential administration spokesman Ben Rhodes said on the evening of June 13 that Barack Obama had made a principled decision on military assistance to Syrian militants. We are talking about "greater assistance to the opposition", which will be expressed in direct military support to the command of the "Syrian Free Army" (FSA).

      Rhodes did not elaborate on what "support" from the US would include. It is also not known what types of offensive weapons are going to be supplied to Syria. Obama only specified that the "aid package" will include "certain types of weapons."

      From the statement of the American authorities, one thing is clear - the supply of Syrian fighters directly from the United States will increase. Even without weapons, this help will be quite substantial. Medicines, food, and various equipment (including night vision devices, security cameras, communication systems, etc.) are no less important in supporting the combat effectiveness of bandit formations.

      The announcement of plans to build up military assistance to Syrian militants is accompanied by yet another stuffing about chemical weapons allegedly used by the Syrian army.

      Ben Rhodes said that American intelligence "after a thorough investigation" concluded that the use of chemical warheads by government forces in Syria killed up to 150 people. This unconfirmed information has already been disseminated by Western and pro-Western media, although its purpose is only to justify Obama's decision to arm the gangs operating in Syria.

      FSA commander Salim Idris sent letters to the leadership of the United States, France and Great Britain, in which he noted that without the help of the West, the "rebels" would be finally defeated. Idris is asking Western countries for Russian-made weapons, including at least 200 Konkurs ATGMs, 100 MANPADS, 300 cartridges for Kalashnikov assault rifles, 000 cartridges for machine guns and 50 cartridges for other types of small arms.

      American and European "aid" is already awaiting in Syria. The Islamists are already happily rubbing their hands on the resources they control, aiming at weapons that will arrive in the country in the near future.

      In the US, they say they are going to help only the "correct" militants from the FSA, and the Islamists will get nothing. However, these statements are for internal use — for American citizens. In fact, the FSA is actively cooperating with the Islamists, including the Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist group, so some of the weapons will definitely fall into their hands.
    8. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 26
      Turkish troops invade Syria



      A number of Arab sources simultaneously reported on the Turkish army's attempt to invade Syrian territory west of Aleppo. According to Dampress, the violation of the Syrian-Turkish border in the area of ​​the Turkish city of Reyhanli occurred on the evening of June 12.

      Apparently, the tasks of the Turkish army unit included probing the situation in the border zone, under the control of the Kurds, for a larger-scale invasion.

      Around 16:00 local time, Turkish reconnaissance groups entered the small village of Mela Khalil, located right on the border 27 kilometers from the city of Afrin, and tried to gain a foothold in it. They occupied the building of the police station and installed heavy machine guns in it.

      Kurdish self-defense units from Deir Ballut and other surrounding villages quickly blocked Mel Khalil and attacked the Turks who had settled in it. During the two-hour battle, the Turkish unit suffered losses and retreated to adjacent territory. According to the Kurds, among the Turkish military there are killed and wounded.



      Border violation site - Mela Khalil village
    9. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 27
      US to supply Syrian fighters MANPADS, mortars and ammunition



      The approximate composition of the range of weapons that the United States is going to supply to the Syrian militants has become known. Reuters reported that the "aid package" will include primarily automatic rifles, light mortars, grenade launchers and a large amount of ammunition.

      Accusing Syrian government troops and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of using chemical weapons, Barack Obama announced that the United States will now begin direct military assistance to the "Syrian opposition."

      The implication is that the weapons will be supplied to the "good" militants from the FSA, and will not fall into the hands of the "bad" Islamists from "Jebhat al-Nusra", which Washington has included in the list of terrorist organizations.

      However, the Islamists dominate the Syrian conflict and the FSA is actively cooperating with them, so the US military is well aware that when arming the SSA fighters they are also arming extremists. Nevertheless, in this matter, the Pentagon decided to take risks, to allow the arming of terrorists, in order to nevertheless break Assad with the wrong hands.

      The American authorities really do not want to interfere in the war, but the situation in the region is currently not in favor of the West so much that on Friday a White House representative said that "the question of introducing a no-fly zone in Syria is being considered as one of the options." The United States believes that it will be sufficient to introduce a "partial" no-fly zone over the border areas of the Syrian provinces of Idleb, Aleppo and Deraa.

      Meanwhile, a number of Islamist resources reported that the Americans’s statement on the supply of weapons was already made ex-facto and the first large consignment of heavy weapons was already in Turkey and would cross the border with the Syrian province of Aleppo, where the government’s operation against militants had recently begun.

      The Americans bring to Syria primarily the means of combating aviation, artillery and armored vehicles of the Syrian army - man-portable air defense systems, anti-tank missile systems, mortars, RPGs, various small arms, ammunition and shells.
    10. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 30
      The Syrian army liberated a number of areas in the provinces of Hama and Deir ez-Zor



      On June 14, Syrian government forces liberated the area east of Salamia along the 45th highway in the province of Hama. The liberated area included the villages of Akash, Al-Khrejah, Abu Dali and Abu Ramal.

      Security has been restored in the villages after the liquidation of the last strongholds of the Jabhat al-Nusra terrorists. During the operation, a large number of militants were killed, their weapons and vehicles were confiscated, SANA reports. The liberated area adjoins the previously cleared areas northeast of Salamiyya.

      On the same day, the operation was completed to eliminate the bandit groups in the Ar-Rasafa area in the city of Deir ez-Zor. "In the Al-Rasafa quarter, the gallant Armed Forces restored security and stability by destroying the last hideouts of the terrorists," the Syrian news agency reported.



      Also in Deir ez-Zor, in the areas of the Old Airfield, As-Sinaa and Al-Ommal, the armed forces persecuted armed groups of Islamists. As a result, several pickup trucks with weapons mounted on them were destroyed, and many militants were killed. The attempt of the bandit group to penetrate into the previously liberated area of ​​West Hwijk was stopped.
    11. 0
      15 June 2013 13: 30
      Iraqi army conducts large-scale operation against al-Qaeda in Diyala province



      On Tuesday, June 11, units of the Iraqi special forces "Dijla" with the support of the police launched a large-scale operation against Islamist gangs associated with "Al-Qaeda" in the eastern province of Diyala. The fighting began in the areas of Mekdadiyya, Abu Said, Hamarain and then spread to almost the entire territory of the region.

      On June 13, the command announced the arrest of more than 10 militants and the destruction of three more. The latter were killed in clashes at al-Qaeda stronghold Abu Said, east of Baakuba city. The extremists were the first to open fire and were destroyed by return fire, reports the Iraqi edition of "Al-Shorf" with reference to General Abdul-Amir al-Zeidi.

      In Al-Mekdadiyah, Abu Saidna and Khanaqin, several improvised explosive devices planted on roadsides and in buildings were found and defused. According to official data, the local population "is actively supporting the operation." There are no exact dates for the end of the operation. According to the military leadership, the operation will continue until "its objectives are achieved."

      In the past two months, the situation in Iraq has become aggravated. In the wake of the Sunni protest against the Shiite leadership of the country, the Islamists are organizing attacks on the military and police. Army checkpoints are shelled almost every day. Militants of the Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq, affiliated with al-Qaeda, infiltrate from Syria.

      Due to the danger of the penetration of large militant forces from Syria and Jordan, the Iraqi command sends additional army units to these sections of the border. In total, four brigades with attached armored vehicles will be sent to strengthen the Iraqi-Jordanian and Iraqi-Syrian borders.
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    13. +1
      15 June 2013 13: 41
      Fresh video from Syria

      There are almost no videos of militants on the Internet, almost all channels are blocked. also blocked the channels of the patriots of Syria and supporters of the government. Only a few Arabic channels remained.

      Syria. The episodes of the assault. Breakthrough attempt


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 12, 2013


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 13, 2013
    14. +1
      16 June 2013 00: 04
      I am always tormented by one question: Why did not Russia help Libya ??? If then the presence of "Pantsir-S1", anti-ship missiles "Bal-E", air defense systems "S-300" would have changed a lot ... There was even a question for Putin: Where did you spend the Libyan money? Sometimes I do not understand the actions of the authorities, they say one thing, do another. It seems like there are such loud words on TV, and when you need to act, then the tail is drawn in and everything, from somewhere in the deep well .. the voice comes. Can't you supply weapons quietly, without advertising and publicity? You can, after all! Amers supply and normal! But we do not, we need to order a British transport aircraft, we do not have our own, load the Mi-25 on it and send it to Syria and loudly declare that this is a previously made order. When you could just load onto your ships and send with an escort ... Sometimes it seems that our rulers are playing a double game: as it was with the "Kursk" ... And involuntarily I recall a phrase from the film by S. Bodrov: "What is the strength of a brother? In money, brother! " I'm sorry for the state !!!
      1. +1
        16 June 2013 03: 07
        Russia has forgiven the debt of Libya, which took military equipment on credit from the USSR and from the mid-90s again Libya managed to borrow $ 9 billion from Russia to borrow equipment. And again, Russia was in flight.

        What kind of money? Gaddafi threw everyone both west and east and neighbors, so even the Chinese did not fit in for him, he threw them at 4 billion.
  2. +3
    15 June 2013 07: 21
    "Bastards" put it mildly, it's just bad people.
    The Frenchman said bluntly "We must destroy Assad's offensive .."
    I just can’t understand how Assad shitted them all. They have the logic, but I can’t understand my own (about America), the rest of the European trash.
    1. +4
      15 June 2013 07: 35
      Quote: dark_65
      I just can’t understand how Assad shitted them all. They have the logic, but I can’t understand my own (about America), the rest of the European trash.

      Assad drum. See what is happening in the already revolutionary countries. Frank robbery of natural resources from the democratic type of countries. Syria is a tidbit. And the main goal is Iran
      1. +1
        15 June 2013 12: 17
        Quote: domokl
        Syria is quite a tidbit. And the main goal is Iran.

        The main goal of Russia. Iran is an intermediate goal, but crucial!
  3. +5
    15 June 2013 07: 25
    from the Don.
    It’s like losing to the West in Syria-death. And so many have already seen their sight in the world. Here they’re climbing over !!!
    1. +1
      15 June 2013 12: 18
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      West lose in Syria, death is similar.

      Let me correct you. Not like, but deadly! The west already has asphyxiation!
  4. +3
    15 June 2013 07: 25
    He put a plus article. The analysis of the situation, in my opinion, is quite interesting. But ... At the moment, the countries surrounding Syria are unlikely to be able to take any serious military action. It is simply because Assad has an ally, which in case I wanted to give a damn about all the resolutions. Iran will certainly begin real military operations. And this will practically bring Turkey and Israel out of the war, tie them hand and foot.
    NATO and the United States remain, but they really don’t like to fight with those who had not previously been destroyed by aircraft and missiles. And with the advent of the 300, this becomes problematic and will cost many democratic lives.
    I get the impression that they are once again trying to take Syria in a consternation. Only once in a while is it frugal and Assad got used to these times.
    1. +1
      15 June 2013 11: 37
      domokl RU ". And with the advent of the 300s it becomes problematic ..."
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      And where did you get the idea that the 300s appeared in Syria? While there is one chatter ...
    2. +1
      15 June 2013 11: 52
      Quote: domokl
      And with the advent of 300's, it becomes problematic and will cost many democratic lives.


      As ours recently announced, there are no missiles in Syria yet.
      1. +2
        15 June 2013 13: 06
        Israeli pilots should be asked to fly again and check ...
    3. +4
      15 June 2013 12: 32
      Quote: domokl
      ..At the moment, the countries surrounding Syria are hardly capable of any serious military action.


      Major international military exercises taking place in Jordan The Watchful Lion 2013 More than 15 thousand soldiers from 18 different countries of the world. List of participating countries - USA, England, France, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Canada, Czech Republic, Lebanon, Pakistan, Poland and Yemen. Previously, the United States reported that the beginning of the exercises they will send a battery of Patriot interceptor missiles and F-16 planes to Jordan, which, together with American personnel — 4,5 soldiers — will remain in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan even after the completion of the maneuvers
      According to one of the western military officials, the military contingents of the above countries will remain in Jordan even after the completion of the exercises "in case there is a need to intervene in what is happening in Syria." The maneuvers themselves will last two weeks. They will be held at the training grounds of the Jordanian army, in schools and at command posts. “No doubt, this year’s exercises will be aimed at preparing for possible military action in Syria,” said one of the representatives of the Jordanian leadership, to whose words the Israeli portal Ynet refers. “Jordan must be prepared for any abnormal development of events on this front.”

      link
      In fact, the first phase of the US plan to create a no-fly zone in Syria is being implemented, thanks to the presence of Patriot batteries and F-16 aircraft in which Syrian fighters will be based. Under the "umbrella" of the United States. On the border with Jordan. So they are already preparing a bridgehead for the invasion.
      1. +1
        15 June 2013 17: 46
        -Asket: Actually, the first stage of the US plan to create a no-fly zone in Syria is being implemented, thanks to the presence of Patriot batteries and F-16 aircraft in which Syrian fighters will be based. Under the "umbrella" of the USA ...
        The Pentagon proposes to bring down from the territory of Jordan the Syrian planes and helicopters that fly over the sovereign territory of Syria. This will be a no-fly maintenance. And if Syria begins to bring down planes in Jordan, they will call it the aggression of the bloody Assad regime. That's the reason.
  5. VkadimirEfimov1942
    +1
    15 June 2013 07: 31
    Just to find some reason, even if it is "sucked from the finger". This is how the leading NATO countries always act. The aggressors apparently cannot come up with a new one, because all this comes from the military elite of the Anglo-Saxons. It is desirable for our leadership to act more actively in the Middle Sea region and not only in a political way - not to be late, as happened in Yugoslavia. I would like to wish and support the long-suffering Syrian people in the victory over the aggressors and throw out the international bandits paid by the top of NATO!
  6. 0
    15 June 2013 07: 33
    About the Turkish special services. Fulfilled the order! After all, it was necessary to somehow justify the ordinary theft of ordinary Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan equipment from Aleppo plants. Democrats 3.14. The Frenchman also carried out the order. Everything is almost like the thieves in law, although in fact they (the Frenchman and Erdogan) are such.
  7. +2
    15 June 2013 07: 36
    The fact that the terrorists used chemical weapons is a fact, the West doesn’t even convince them to detain them with these weapons, despite the fact that this happened on the territory controlled by the West in Turkey, the excuse didn’t give a ride. And the samples can be falsified in the laboratory or the simplest to take the combustion products types of polymers, they emit during combustion similar to military compounds.
  8. 0
    15 June 2013 07: 38
    The United States has taken off the mask of a "civilized" and democratic "country .. Most countries have already understood what kind of monster has grown overseas. Russia is not the first time to break such ridges !!! Give time ...
  9. -2
    15 June 2013 07: 43
    It is a pity that Russia is still acting on the principle of "one step forward, two steps back." I think that even a statement that ANY act of aggression on the part of ANY foreign state will be considered aggression against Russia (the precedent is South Ossetia) could cool many hotheads. And, in fact, it is necessary to immediately land troops in Tartus, as well as, by agreement with Assad, occupy key bases and airfields. These "shit-mongers" will have little guts to bomb Russian soldiers!
  10. +6
    15 June 2013 08: 04
    The West needs war ... We must give them war. The war is not somewhere in Syria, but at the west of the house, in Europe. There are enough Islamists to drown European capitals in chaos for a couple of weeks. Then the West will not be up to Syria. How to do this is a matter of special services, if we still have those.
    1. 0
      15 June 2013 11: 59
      Quote: Normal
      if any, we still have
      And what can they do, specifically in this situation? Will they stick on beards and start campaigning in Muslim neighborhoods? All these guys regularly go to mosques, they are told there what and how to do. And the connection of spiritual teachers is traced more likely with MI-6 service to her similar, but with their abandoned homeland. WWR is great, but the task is too daunting. It is better to focus on identifying the international ties of our home-grown extremists. And the FSB can address these phenomena.
      1. 0
        15 June 2013 13: 16
        Three hundred US marines and the Patriot air defense system are deployed in northern Jordan near the border with Syria. According to the British newspaper The Times on Saturday, these forces were deployed north of the city of Al-Mafraq under the guise of joint military exercises between the United States and Jordan, which take place in the area this week, but will remain there for several months.
        According to the publication, the marines will pave the way for the supply of weapons to the Syrian rebels. Http://lenta.ru/news/2013/06/15/border/
  11. soldier's grandson
    +1
    15 June 2013 08: 09
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: dark_65
    I just can’t understand how Assad shitted them all. They have the logic, but I can’t understand my own (about America), the rest of the European trash.

    Assad drum. See what is happening in the already revolutionary countries. Frank robbery of natural resources from the democratic type of countries. Syria is a tidbit. And the main goal is Iran

    and we have that is not a robbery of resources? just a coup took place more bloodlessly with the drunk ebn country will save the communist regime
  12. +4
    15 June 2013 08: 13
    They don’t need a reason. I really want our state not to make excuses to this policy of double standards. And fulfilled its obligations in a timely manner (S-300).
  13. +2
    15 June 2013 08: 23
    Assad needs to be helped as quickly and efficiently as possible with the best weapons, as well as starting financing of the Turkish internal opposition, stopping tourist trips there, starting financing the opposition in France, sending the Chechens to England to establish a constitutional order, although there is no constitution.
    1. +4
      15 June 2013 10: 16
      Quote: valokordin
      Assad needs to be helped ....... start financing Turkey’s internal opposition, stop tourist trips there, start financing the opposition in France, send Chechens to England to establish a constitutional order .....

      Greetings, namesake. That's right! Even if you don’t supply weapons to Assad, but only reduce the tourist flow to Turkey and stir up discontent in France and the UK, then the West will immediately not be up to Syria.
      With Qatar and the Saudis it is more difficult, but there you can probably find pain points.
      It’s necessary to work, not to scratch your tongue. Alas, our leadership is good at the second and is extremely reluctant to engage in the first.
  14. Komodo
    +6
    15 June 2013 08: 38
    Yes, let Mikhalkov take pictures at Mosfilm like the Syrian rebels: "They opened a plant for the production of chemical weapons," "they are testing tactical nuclear weapons stolen from Holland," "there was a leak of bacteriological weapons in one of the cellars on the territory of the rebels," "rebels are shooting disabled people , old people. "Actors can be gathered in the markets. laughing
    The USA itself will be terrified of whom it helps.
    And the directors will finally serve the fatherland, otherwise it’s just to obsess .. at.
  15. +4
    15 June 2013 08: 52
    Will our leaders have enough potential to take tough steps and not curry favor with the West?
    Something I doubt.
    The war in Syria is really a certain milestone, after which it will become clear what will happen next. Either chaos and the American empire, or they will be put in place and at least some stability will come for a decade.
    Although the Israeli Hasidim will not calm down. They need a war.
    And we have to prepare ...
    1. +1
      15 June 2013 12: 21
      Quote: Consul-t
      Will there be enough potential for our leaders to take tough steps and not curry favor with the West? Something I doubt.

      So it’s very simple here! If Syria falls, then Iran, there will be a threat to our oligarchs in the wake of control over our wells, BP Schells and others will come, and all the oligofren’s lafas will apologize to the oligarchs.
  16. avt
    +1
    15 June 2013 10: 17
    It is necessary to change the title of the article, the war in Syria has been going on for a long time, quite full-fledged with a real external invasion. And here, perhaps, the term intervention would have been more suitable for a very specific country and, apparently, also its satellites.
    1. 0
      15 June 2013 11: 56
      Quote: avt
      The title of the article must be changed, the war in Syria has long been going on
      I would say that a counter-terrorist operation is ongoing in Syria. And the war will begin with a direct invasion of the armed forces of third countries.
      1. avt
        +1
        15 June 2013 16: 53
        Quote: Karavan
        I would say that a counter-terrorist operation is ongoing in Syria.

        No, that's when, after the intelligence work, some darling from the residential sector or the forest is smoked, then yes - the counter-terrorist, active part of it. And here is a real war with the use of all forces and means, and forces from outside are involved an order of magnitude more than even in Chechnya, so the war is no less. Here Erdogan braked the campaign, with all the involvement of the Turks in Syria. I can assume that he did not want to, like Saddam, to Iran for amer's affection, to pounce on the Syrians not childishly and immediately "Turkish summer" got off his feet.
  17. slvevg
    +1
    15 June 2013 10: 26
    I don’t believe clairvoyants, but Vanga long before the war said that the third world war would begin when Syria fell. They would crush Syria, the question of time and Russia would begin direct military assistance too late, as always. This will be the beginning of the world war. But if we now push aside the interests of business with the West and Israel, and loudly knock on the table, war will be avoided. Then all the thieving officials will have a bad time, because the West will take away their assets in their banks and support their economy a little tune, for a while there will be a bad peace, but, nevertheless, better than a good war ...
    1. +3
      15 June 2013 10: 50
      Clairvoyants can predict, but look at the battle of psychics. It seems strong, but they see different things. Someone somewhere guesses one thing, another another and vice versa, in a different situation, the results change. and talk about what happened.
      Note that few predict the future. And if they predict, then only as regards specific people. The development of countries and peoples is difficult to predict, because the multi-factor development has not yet been canceled.
      Therefore, psychics only predict a scenario, but it will happen or not, it depends on us, governments and much more.

      Listen to the seers, but only believe in the best and set yourself up for the best.
      If you were told that a misfortune will happen and you believe a psychic give up and as a ram you wait for the predicted to happen, then the trouble will definitely draw. And then they say, they predicted to me and it happened. real psychic. Yeah ...
      What friends, am I wrong? we shape our future around us ..
  18. +1
    15 June 2013 10: 55
    The world, and especially the West, has not seen tragedies for a long time, which is why it has gone wild! And besides, impunity often leads to arrogant self-confidence.
    1. 0
      15 June 2013 12: 22
      Quote: krez-74
      The world, and especially the West, has not seen tragedies for a long time, which is why it has gone wild! And besides, impunity often leads to arrogant self-confidence.

      They saw, but have not experienced in their own skin for a long time, but they would have to rub sandpaper on their skin!
  19. +2
    15 June 2013 11: 16
    “Not in words, but in deeds, the United States is equipping the neighboring countries of Syria with the weapons necessary for the intervention, while at the same time, through the mouth of its leader, Russia is only intending to supply missile weapons to Syria.” territorial waters can be regarded as mobile multifunctional platforms with weapons - which can be rented, partly any complex, or in general (at least for an hour - depending on the price) to the Syrian government., of course, observing all international norms on offensive and nuclear weapons!
    You can find precedents in history: for example, lendlize.
    1. +2
      15 June 2013 11: 58
      Quote: Strannik_GO
      Russian warships located in the vicinity, and the Syrian territorial waters can be regarded as mobile multifunctional platforms with weapons -


      Their application does not depend on the will of the Syrians, but on the will of our leadership.
    2. +1
      15 June 2013 12: 21
      Quote: Strannik_GO
      Russian warships located in the vicinity, and the Syrian territorial waters can be regarded as mobile multi-functional platforms with weapons - which can be leased, partially some complex, or in general
      Russian warships sail under Andreev's because they are part of Russia. And to trade sovereignty even for noble goals is an impermissible thing. And so, YES ... if a defensive alliance was concluded, then it would be possible to "rely" on real force, and there other allies would have pulled themselves together seeing our REAL consistency and intransigence. And in the absence of this, the West encourages the efforts of the Arab League, to prepare to create conditions for the continuation of the war of attrition, has all the means to create no-fly zones.
  20. ACker
    0
    15 June 2013 13: 05
    Quote: cartridge
    Putin should voice the position of Russia: the very first supply of weapons by the West to Syria will automatically mean the start of supplies of C-300 to Iran!

    it will be a worthy answer!
  21. +3
    15 June 2013 14: 25
    "And as you know, the best way out of any crisis is a good war."

    After a good war, Siberia alone will remain, and again there will be legends about Hyperborea.
  22. +1
    15 June 2013 15: 08
    Assad now has a very good opportunity to rip off masks from the Americans and their licking from Old Europe and the Middle East. Let him announce, only announce that he is ready to put on the open market his entire arsenal of chemical weapons and will give preference to buyers from the Arab world and organizations from Old Europe and North America. Of course, first of all, terrorists and opponents of the regimes in Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other countries of the Near and Middle East and Israel will show interest ...
    Someone will say that this is a direct violation of the UN International Treaties and Resolutions, but it is forbidden to sell weapons to government groups by the same Treaties, and they do it. Both in Libya and in Syria. It is also forbidden to transfer weapons to third parties. But the Syrian bandit now needs exactly Russian weapons and equipment, but it is impossible to get it from Russia. So there will be intermediary countries or countries that already have Russian weapons ...
    So the vaunted democrats and others like them themselves violate such agreements ... How can they be judged?
    And then yesterday's and today's Assad will become more acceptable for these frozen democrats than today's allies of the "democrats" in the face of the opposition, which tomorrow will poison Europeans and Americans in their own homes ... And then these "Friends of Syria" will start working in the right course ...
  23. +1
    15 June 2013 16: 05
    Something our have quieted down, they are very inactive behaving. Either the S-300 are on our ships, this is the territory of Russia, (the GDP said that the supply plan has not yet been implemented ... You can deploy the complexes at any time. I would be in place of the president he did just that, so to speak, he insured himself against the introduction of a no-fly zone and open intervention) Either they don’t care about the arbitrariness of the Americans, if only they themselves would not lose the loot.
  24. +1
    15 June 2013 16: 37
    Good evening everyone! I do not want to spoil everyone’s mood, but why are you all appealing to the UN? What are the vain hopes? This is a puppet structure led by a hand-made poodle from the US half-colony! He was ordered by ATU Assad — he will fulfill the command of the Washington host.
  25. Askkasko.
    0
    15 June 2013 17: 24
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  26. 0
    15 June 2013 18: 05
    Yes, specialists from the Foreign Legion and British intelligence agencies already operate in Syria. It is necessary to send our specialists there so that they catch a dozen or two of these agents and transfer them to the Syrian leadership. Let the Syrians judge them. And then both the British and the French will comprehend.
  27. +3
    15 June 2013 18: 45
    It seems to me that the Russian leadership does not give up hope for a diplomatic solution to the Syrian problem, trying to put the warring parties at the negotiating table. An exchange of views and a comparison of positions will take place on June 17-18 at a meeting of leaders of leading countries in Northern Ireland. A personal conversation of GDP with Obama is supposed. Further steps of the Russian Federation will depend on the outcome of the meeting. In words, everyone is not going to send their troops, etc. But the US representative to the UN, Szen Rice, openly stated that a no-fly zone will be established on the Libyan model. If a sea blockade is established, then C-300 will be difficult to deliver. So after 19, the situation should become clearer. At least from the communique following the meeting, it will be possible to understand the vector of development of events. Wait, not long left. The main thing is not to be late.
  28. 1st_user
    0
    16 June 2013 12: 21
    Anyone - from the use of chemical weapons to the fight against the bloody repression of the tyrannical regime of penguins. And if the second reason is more suitable for wars, the venue of which in the future will be the northern latitudes of our planet, then a card called "Use of Chemical Weapons" in Syria is played out in full right now.

    And all this despite the fact that penguins in the Arctic are not found.
  29. tsiter
    -1
    16 June 2013 19: 12
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  31. myfutureamerica. org
    0
    18 June 2013 10: 55
    The reason for the intervention of the West is almost the only constant Light motive of the US foreign policy - by any means to keep its currency as the main reserve of the whole world. Middle Eastern oil dictators play a special role in this, who pledged to trade their oil only for US dollars. Iran, opposing US hegemony, threatens Saudi security because in the oil field, the majority of Shiites living, as well as the Iranians, are subject to the small pressure of the Iranian Ayatola. Syria is an important pillar of Iran, and therefore they are trying to turn it over. At the same time, they do not take into account the fears of any countries, even friendly ones. The only way to tackle the boorish behavior of the USA in the long term is to introduce currencies with strong currencies as an alternative to the US dollar. This instantly redraws the US ability to use the global economy to finance its excessive Army. Therefore, the question for the Russian leadership is how Russia plans to answer on the front of financial confrontation, which is key.