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The loudest secrets leaks in US history

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The scandal around the prism program for total surveillance, which was declassified with the help of Edward Snowden, is not the first loud leak of classified information in the United States.


Vietnam War

Perhaps the first high-profile scandal with the leakage of secrets of the US government can be considered the publication of the so-called "Pentagon Papers" (Pentagon Papers) in 1971, at the very height of the Vietnam War. These materials were a detailed dossier of the US Department of Defense on the participation of the country's army in the Vietnamese conflict. Work on the compilation began in 1967, and it was reported that the administration, President Lyndon Johnson, was directly involved in the escalation of the war, despite the peace-loving statements to the public. The dossier also listed the secret operations of the American military in North Vietnam and neighboring states.

Access to this report was received by one of the analysts of the US Department of State Daniel Ellsberg (Daniel Ellsberg), who secretly copied the most important of his head and sent them to the editor of The New York Times. The report has had an important role in the decision of the US government to curtail support for South Vietnam and withdraw its troops from this country. The fate of the author of the leak, Ellsberg, is interesting. He was threatened with 116 years in prison for divulging state secrets, but under public pressure, the court acquitted him, citing the fact that the evidence against him had been obtained through illegal wiretapping. The US Supreme Court also found no fault in the actions of The New York Times, which accepted the Pentagon Papers for publication.

The US authorities have published the "Pentagon Documents" in full only in the 2011 year, after 30 years after the famous leak. And Ellsberg is actively involved in journalistic activities and declares his support for contemporary activists: Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.

Republicans vs. Democrats

However, the scandal around the Pentagon Papers was only a prelude to the Watergate scandal. 17 June 1972 five people were arrested for trying to install listening devices in the office of the National Committee of the US Democratic Party at the Watergate Hotel in Washington. It soon became clear that they were connected with the election headquarters of the Republican President Richard Nixon, and a year later the press learned the shocking facts that the decree on spying for rivals in the elections was given by the president himself.

In 1974, Nixon, fearing impeachment, resigned, Gerald Ford became the new president, but the Republican Party was heavily damaged, and the echo of the scandal was heard for several more years: in the 1977 year, Democratic Jimmy Carter became president.

Blind revenge

In 2003, the US public witnessed a unique stories US events: the presidential administration, protecting the reputation of the boss, was so carried away by the persecution of their offenders that it framed CIA agents. This story became known as the Valerie Plame Affair. It began in January 2003, when President George W. Bush told Congress that Iraq had purchased enriched uranium in Niger. Then the US authorities were desperately trying to find any reason to invade Iraq, and another "proof" of work on weapons mass destruction was just the way.

After the start of the Iraq war, American diplomat Joseph Wilson wrote several articles in The New York Times, where he said that at the request of the CIA he traveled to Niger on a mission to investigate whether Iraq was going to buy uranium for weapons production and found out that information about this is not true. In his articles, Wilson stated that Bush had misinterpreted the information conveyed to him and, thereby, misled the congressmen.

In July, publicist Robert Novak published an expose article in The Washington Post, stating that no one sent Wilson to Niger, it was his personal initiative and, as it were, incidentally, mentioned that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is an agent CIA. As a result, a considerable part of the agent network in Africa was put in contact with Plame. In 2003, Lewis Libby (Lewis Libby), Chief of Staff of Vice President Dick Cheney, was found guilty of the leak: he was sentenced to 2007 months in prison and a large fine, but Bush later commuted his sentence and did not end up in prison.

American scientists have overheated the earth

The next loud information leakage in the USA occurred in November 2009 of the year, but it did not concern the government, but scientific data. Then the hackers published an archive with electronic correspondence, data files and processing programs from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in Norwich (University of East Anglia). From the published materials, it became known that the American climate scientists deliberately distorted data on global warming: in the correspondence they discussed what “tricks” could be used to notice in the graphs about the increase in world temperature that not only increased, but even became less. With this, they wanted to make their presentations more convincing. They also discussed the best way to "put a stick in the wheels" of opponents of the theory of global warming and not to give them access to the initial data for calculations.

The scandal was named "Climategate". He did not question the danger of global warming, but the whole world has learned that American scientists often manipulate data.

WikiLeaks

However, the loudest leakage of secret data in the United States over the past few years is undoubtedly the publication in WikiLeaks of the US classified documents on the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, diplomatic dispatches and the famous video "Assassin", which captured an air strike from an American helicopter in Baghdad, more than 10 Iraqi civilians have become victims. The US Army Private Bradley Manning gave a leak: in May 2010, he was arrested and is now being tried on counts of 22, he could face the death penalty. Fears for his life and the creator of WikiLeaks Julian Assange, who is now hiding from the British and Swedish justice in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Assange is accused of a sexual crime, but he himself is sure that this is only a reason, and the authorities of Sweden intend to extradite him to the United States.

The leakage of data on the PRIZM program created by the FBI and the US National Security Agency to spy on its own citizens is still prematurely considered “Obamagate”, many experts say. US President Barack Obama spoke out in defense of the program, many congressmen also believe that the threat of terrorism is much more important than privacy. However, Edward Snowden himself, who told the whole world about the program, stated that it would not be limited to leaking data on total electronic surveillance and was already preparing new disclosures. Unless, of course, US intelligence agencies find ways to silence him.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 15 June 2013 15: 59
    10
    Not only our secrets are "leaking" winked In fact, Müller said in "17 Moments of Spring": "What two know, the pig knows"
    Personally, this "leak" scares me more.
    AMSTERDAM, June 10. 22 units of American tactical nuclear weapons stationed in Hollandstated former Prime Minister of this country Ruud Lubbers.

    “I never thought that these stupid things could still be there in 2013,” the former head of the cabinet said.

    Nuclear weapons are located in underground storage facilities at the Volkel Air Force base in the province of North Brabant, he said. Local media report that the base contains American B-61 free fall bombs.

    Rumors of the presence of nuclear weapons in the Netherlands have been around for a long time, but Lubbers seems to have become the most senior person to confirm them. A spokesman for the Royal Air Force told Dutch radio that such things "are never spoken out loud."

    Lubbers led the Dutch government from 1982 to 1994.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/06/10/1139294.html
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 15 June 2013 17: 17
      +7
      Quote: seasoned
      22 units of American tactical nuclear weapons stationed in Holland

      It’s time to tie them with grass there, otherwise our people who are freed for treason will still sit down. And our tactical nuclear weapons are located in Mexico, Cuba, Honduras and Uruguay with Paraguay ... No? !! Well, let them check. wink
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 June 2013 17: 21
      +5
      Quote: seasoned
      AMSTERDAM, June 10. About 22 U.S. tactical nuclear weapons are deployed in Holland, said Ruud Lubbers, the country's former prime minister.

      Stoned Dutchmen were given to protect nuclear weapons belay or maybe amers stupidly forgot about him, scattered bases around the world, go see what there.
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 15 June 2013 17: 34
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        or maybe amers stupidly forgot about the random distribution of bases around the world, go see what there.

        Rather, they receive bills for storage, but they do not pay. Here they are, in fact, gently reminded so.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 June 2013 17: 37
          +2
          Quote: Alexej

          Rather, they receive bills for storage, but they do not pay

          Or maybe amers just paid warheads for the next batch of weed laughing
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 16 June 2013 02: 25
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Alexej

            Rather, they receive bills for storage, but they do not pay

            Or maybe amers just paid warheads for the next batch of weed laughing


            This is nifiga, there was a party ...
      2. Very old
        Very old 15 June 2013 19: 55
        +1
        Try to remember where the stash
      3. Danash I
        Danash I 15 June 2013 21: 00
        0
        But this is naive. And not serious.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 15 June 2013 18: 38
      +3
      Alas! Too many bad boys have been divorced ... Only now they are not buying them for a jar of jam and a box of cookies, but for more beautiful "green rubles"! Already, very many have spoiled consciousness, worldview under the pressure of "crappy" ideology ...
    4. Interface
      Interface 15 June 2013 19: 15
      +4
      Perhaps I will express a general point of view: it is no secret to anyone what the United States actually is. And there is nothing to leak.
      1. Very old
        Very old 15 June 2013 20: 01
        +1
        Until figs still in the sleeve of the CIC, you can still shake a lot, Shake
    5. Very old
      Very old 15 June 2013 19: 52
      0
      Mala, bent over. It's a pity. It was the first parliamentary in history (even before Engl)
    6. APASUS
      APASUS 15 June 2013 21: 25
      0
      Quote: seasoned
      Personally, this "leak" scares me more.

      But such a leak does not scare:
      Christian Today, UK There are about 200 US tactical nuclear weapons in total in Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy and Turkey.

      The Americans are not 100% sure of victory with the use of nuclear weapons. Therefore, the relevance of nuclear weapons falls, hence the US proposal for a joint reduction.
      But the US does not stop, they are trying to achieve superiority in high-tech weapons.
      It should rather be scary - total surveillance!
    7. honest jew
      honest jew 16 June 2013 15: 22
      +2
      The biggest leak in American history is Monica’s suction at Clinton’s!
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 June 2013 16: 08
    +5
    somehow weak compared to our perestroika and post-perestroika "heroes"
    1. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 17: 12
      -1
      Could not pass by. I do not understand your skepticism towards perestroika heroes. Frankly speaking, the USSR is the greatest positive event of the twentieth century.
      1. simons
        simons 15 June 2013 18: 02
        -24 qualifying.
        You will still laugh, but I wanted to say "the collapse of the USSR is the greatest positive event of the XNUMXth century." I apologize. Probably that my dirty word was not missed by the word filter. Therefore, I do not understand the skepticism in relation to the perestroika heroes.
        1. Truffoff
          Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 09
          +5
          Quote: simons
          Therefore, I do not understand skepticism in relation to the perestroika heroes.

          Why would we not be skeptical about
          in relation to the perestroika heroes of the USA?
          1. simons
            simons 15 June 2013 18: 18
            -20 qualifying.
            To the heroes of Russia, actually. If it weren’t for them, we would eat grass in the DPRK right now. And they wouldn’t communicate on the Internet.
            1. Komodo
              Komodo 15 June 2013 18: 27
              +5
              Quote: simons
              To the heroes of Russia, actually. If it weren’t for them, we would eat grass in the DPRK right now. And they wouldn’t communicate on the Internet.

              Again I forgot to add: And they would have driven (yours) SEESheAshka around the world.
              1. simons
                simons 15 June 2013 18: 33
                -24 qualifying.
                Standing in line for Romanian bast shoes and sausage on holidays? Dont need it, thanks. Already passed wink
                1. Truffoff
                  Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 37
                  17
                  Sesheashka that you deserve))
                  1. simons
                    simons 15 June 2013 18: 40
                    -15 qualifying.
                    There is at least food there, even for blacks.
                    1. Truffoff
                      Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 48
                      14

                      The notorious nanny state in action: over 72,000,000 Americans receive Medicaid assistance, and nearly 11,000,000 citizens receive assistance for the disabled. In sum, this is more than the population of any country in Western Europe (Ed. Figures, of course, overlap, but here it is also necessary to mention 48 million Americans who receive food on coupons and 90 million unemployed).

                      1. simons
                        simons 15 June 2013 18: 55
                        -17 qualifying.
                        That's just in America social. the programs give the poor and hungry food, and in the scoop the WHOLE people could not afford even basic products, because they were not there. In '91, they put the country on the brink of starvation in general because of the collapse in oil prices. Do you need such a system? No. Your picture is incorrect if only because a person needs to be fed for a start, which the scoop has not successfully managed. The most elementary.
                      2. Truffoff
                        Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 03
                        +8
                        How was it not? lol GMO products were not, that's for sure. Thank you, eat this yourself gom .. but. . Again you do not agree.
                      3. simons
                        simons 15 June 2013 19: 07
                        -10 qualifying.
                        How was it not?

                        Well, so. Such a country.
                      4. Truffoff
                        Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 10
                        +4
                        Quote: simons
                        Well, so. Such a country.

                        But what did we eat then? Until you saved us with your GMO crap?
                      5. simons
                        simons 15 June 2013 19: 14
                        -15 qualifying.
                        Ustian. Even Black has at least some elda there.

                        How ugly.
                        But what did we eat then? Until you saved us with your GMO crap?

                        Well, they ate, the first place in grain imports. Of rotting USA, by the way. True, in the 91st it turned out that even petrodollars had run out in the scoop and the West already had nothing to pay for food.
                      6. Truffoff
                        Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 17
                        +4
                        Quote: simons
                        Well, they ate, the first place in grain imports.

                        Well, you see the FIRST PLACE on grain imports.
                        And you say there was nothing.
                      7. Very old
                        Very old 15 June 2013 20: 26
                        0
                        I wish I had a little imagination. I stay with Russia, and you
                    2. Genady1976
                      Genady1976 15 June 2013 19: 30
                      +1
                      Simons completely lost memory
                    3. 225chay
                      225chay 16 June 2013 00: 04
                      +2
                      Quote: Genady1976
                      Simons completely lost memory

                      She had him programmed by the CIA to undermine and collapse our country with his grunts
            2. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 14
              +7
              Quote: simons
              The most elementary.

              Exactly the most elementary animal is Sesheashka, two convolutions: YAM-YAM and FUCK-FUCK.
            3. simons
              simons 15 June 2013 19: 18
              -12 qualifying.
              Do not demonstrate such a low intellectual level. If you defend the USSR - then do it with dignity.
            4. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 23
              +9
              Quote: simons
              If you defend the USSR - then do it with dignity.

              The USSR does not need my protection.
              Think about what SESheAshku will protect. laughing
            5. simons
              simons 15 June 2013 19: 26
              -14 qualifying.
              Why protect the United States? A normal country, with civil society, the highest incomes of the population, the strongest army and the USSR, which even could not feed people.
            6. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 32
              +4
              Quote: simons
              Why protect the United States? A normal country, with civil society, the highest incomes of the population, the strongest army and the USSR, which even could not feed people.

              What did you forget again? SESheAshka is not a country, it is a business.
              Any business sooner or later becomes bankrupt.
              And where are you then 300 million bankrupt?
              So drive your GMO refrigerators, dig your STELS bunker. From the laws of economics stop you will not hide.
            7. simons
              simons 15 June 2013 19: 39
              -13 qualifying.
              Oh, the collapse has been predicted for capitalism and the West for two hundred years, and Max also drew graphics. But capitalism is still alive, has not gone anywhere, although there were crises. And the scoop fell apart at the risk of hunger. Do you feel the difference where the system is live and working, and where not?
            8. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 46
              +6
              the scoop fell apart at the risk of hunger.
              What did you say about the threat of hunger? Hunger never threatened the country, does not threaten and will not threaten. Because everyone has such a strategic thing, a secret, COTTAGE, and relatives in the village. Live, real products, mind you. Those who are in the village in general are on the drum, they don’t even need money. Forget about hunger.
              Not an argument.
            9. Very old
              Very old 15 June 2013 20: 21
              +5
              Well, for what kind of XP ... m did you come to the community of military men? You were not here. You have already been told
            10. 225chay
              225chay 16 June 2013 00: 16
              +1
              Quote: Very old
              Well, for what kind of XP ... m did you come to the community of military men? You were not here. You have already been told


              "It" is on assignment here. Works out his 30 pieces of silver from the CIA, the Pentagon and maybe at 1/3 of the Mossad's rate
      2. Genady1976
        Genady1976 15 June 2013 19: 35
        +3
        Quote: simons
        Why protect the United States? A normal country, with civil society, the highest incomes of the population, the strongest army and the USSR, which even could not feed people.

        Your tower finally blew you away
      3. simons
        simons 15 June 2013 19: 39
        -9
        And what is wrong?
      4. Genady1976
        Genady1976 15 June 2013 19: 47
        +1
        Quote: simons
        And what is wrong?

        all 314 people in the U.S. have the highest income
        in the USA brains bought yes
  3. 225chay
    225chay 16 June 2013 00: 12
    +2
    Quote: simons
    A normal country, with civil society, the highest incomes of the population, the strongest army and the USSR, which even could not feed people.

    "Normal" with a bunch of all sorts of p .... wilds, boorish, aggressive behavior on the ground, similar to one animal with a snout on the face, which, out of the kindness of her soul, was invited to the table, and she threw her legs from above, "the highest income" consisting in a large the speed of the Fed's printing press; and the release of unsubstantiated green toilet bills. who needs such a "normal" ... I have nothing against the common people of America. But the authorities ...
  4. Dovmont
    Dovmont 15 June 2013 19: 52
    +2
    I did not meet a single swollen from hunger, although I drove through the floor of the Soviet Union. But swollen from alcohol had to meet more than once.
  5. YARY
    YARY 15 June 2013 20: 53
    +1
    You got a cute man! To return your Tugriks to you with a demand-pay with property of III Khan not only to your programs but also yours Khan!
    So you are parasites on the bodies of those who bought into all sorts of "perestroika" and "democratization"!
    !"Sniff the brick, get used to the wall ..."
    X \ F (USSR) "Experts are conducting the investigation"
  6. 225chay
    225chay 16 June 2013 00: 00
    +2
    Quote: simons
    In '91, they put the country on the brink of starvation in general because of the collapse in oil prices.

    Sema, at 91 m, was put on the brink of starvation by sabotage, by deliberate concealment of products of all kinds .... democrats, agents of influence, a whole cohort of Americans
    ass .... liz
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  • Very old
    Very old 15 June 2013 20: 13
    +3
    Well, get it. Guys, throw him on ONE WAY TICKET,
    1. Danash I
      Danash I 15 June 2013 21: 10
      +1
      since there are many of us ..... enough on a patch of nose for a ticket is enough.
  • Very old
    Very old 15 June 2013 19: 43
    0
    Images from F. In which Brad Pitt bluntly called Obu the MONKEY
  • Dovmont
    Dovmont 15 June 2013 19: 48
    +3
    Take a look at modern Detroit - you will find a bunch of stories for anti-Amerian demotivators!
  • Very old
    Very old 15 June 2013 20: 07
    0
    Simons, what are you talking about? Please give your position more clearly.
    1. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 20: 08
      -9
      The scoop rotted and collapsed for incapacity. That's all.
      1. Truffoff
        Truffoff 15 June 2013 20: 12
        +4
        Quote: simons
        The scoop rotted and collapsed for incapacity. That's all.

        We Russians have such a national habit of making revolutions once a hundred years and feasting in hostile capitals.
        So wait. Well, you already know Russian. You will be the commandant of Los Angeles. laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 15 June 2013 22: 14
          +1
          Quote: Truffoff
          Well, you already know Russian. You will be the commandant of Los Angeles

          In no case. It is necessary to put it on Brighton. Let him suffer there. Even though most of them speak Russian there. They will quickly correct the "cuckoo" for him.
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 16 June 2013 00: 16
        +2
        Simon, PNH. Especially for the scoop.
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 15 June 2013 20: 36
      +1
      Quote: Very old
      give your position more clearly

      Judging by the texts of the posts, the position is standard, knee-elbow laughing
  • fedorovith
    fedorovith 15 June 2013 21: 41
    +2
    Why did you change the flags? And the epaulette is a pancake of some color, it’s not clear if you’re a troll ...
  • family tree
    family tree 15 June 2013 18: 23
    +5
    The most high-profile leak of secrets in US history simons RU Today, 17:12 ↑ simons US Today, 18:02 ↑
    I report soldier ... Watching a leak of SyShyA secrets. Simons' ears got out, in the sense of the flag changed. "And the Cossack is sent!" (C) wassat laughing
    1. Very old
      Very old 15 June 2013 20: 28
      +1
      Yes, you spit on him. The wind carries
  • Ustian
    Ustian 15 June 2013 19: 01
    +1
    the disintegration of your personality is the greatest positive development of the twenty-first century. "
  • Dovmont
    Dovmont 15 June 2013 19: 45
    +4
    I personally do not see anything positive in the collapse of the USSR, because this led to the deaths of many thousands of my compatriots from the Dniester to Nurek. But the collapse of the United States, I would designate as the Greatest Positive Event of the XNUMXst century!
    1. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 19: 47
      -12 qualifying.
      If there was a USSR with communists, there would be famine and civil war, for they were already on the verge. Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 15 June 2013 19: 53
        +3
        Brad of the patient on his head fool
        1. simons
          simons 15 June 2013 19: 59
          -10 qualifying.
          Brad of the patient on his head

          It's time to grow up, look into the eyes of the facts. The USSR was the leader in grain imports, sat on an oil needle, held the entire social camp under its boot, and crushed tanks by rebels in Prague, Budapest, Vilnius, and Berlin.
          Along the way, almost plunging the country into hunger. What else to add I do not know.

          http://daybyday.gaidarfund.ru/december
          1. Truffoff
            Truffoff 15 June 2013 20: 05
            +7
            Quote: simons
            Prague, Budapest, Vilnius

            These could be crushed even now. Berlin himself is to blame.
            Quote: simons
            held the entire socialist camp under his boot

            And under your boot he HAPPY lives laughing
            And he did not sit on an oil needle, but supplied energy to those in need.
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 15 June 2013 22: 27
            +1
            Quote: simons
            USSR was a leader in grain imports

            Young man, you forgot to specify what kind of grain the USSR imported. I believe that your library does not have the Big Soviet Encyclopedia, so I won’t send it to you. As it is now fashionable, I just offer a reference. Read and develop.
            http://bash-m-ak.livejournal.com/3521.html
      2. Truffoff
        Truffoff 15 June 2013 19: 56
        +6
        Quote: simons
        If there was a USSR with communists, there would be famine and civil war, for they were already on the verge. Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen.

        I already told you about the famine. What kind of civil war are you talking about if the whole country, until the last student, was preparing to turn its neck to capitalism at any moment. And if it weren’t for your perestroika heroes, you would have turned. Do not hesitate.
        1. Genady1976
          Genady1976 15 June 2013 19: 58
          +4
          and today there are good people
        2. simons
          simons 15 June 2013 20: 04
          -11 qualifying.
          Yeah, there could be a Yugoslav scenario. They wouldn’t let the Baltic states, East Germany, Ukrainians and the Caucasus go - they would start shooting. ALREADY fired, but very few.
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 15 June 2013 20: 11
            +3
            Yeah, they’re very happy right now and they’ve got a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck
            and the Yugoslav scenario will not work with us
            1. simons
              simons 15 June 2013 20: 19
              -7
              Yeah, they are very happy right now.

              Well, fine, but what? It seems that they no longer shoot at them.
  • MG42
    MG42 16 June 2013 00: 25
    +4
    Quote: simons
    You will still laugh, but I wanted to say "the collapse of the USSR is the greatest positive event of the XNUMXth century."

    In this post, your flag has changed to the USA laughing
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  • Truffoff
    Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 15
    +1
    Quote: simons
    Frankly speaking, the USSR is the greatest positive event of the twentieth century.

    You forgot to add - .. for Sesheashka.
    1. Truffoff
      Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 18
      +5
      Are warnings for mats amnestied here?
      At least theoretically.
    2. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 18: 19
      -15 qualifying.
      Well, I don’t consider calling someone’s country derogatory. But we are not talking Raska, but we are saying Russia, why is it different with the USA?
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        1. simons
          simons 15 June 2013 18: 29
          -10 qualifying.
          What do you dislike about SesheAshka?

          Double standards, obviously.
          1. Truffoff
            Truffoff 15 June 2013 18: 33
            +7
            Quote: simons
            What do you dislike about SesheAshka?
            Double standards, obviously.

            Yes, what are the double standards - just a popular name.
            Not the ones you read textbooks.
            1. Very old
              Very old 15 June 2013 20: 35
              +1
              TRUFF, do not argue with such
              1. Truffoff
                Truffoff 15 June 2013 20: 37
                +3
                Quote: Very old
                TRUFF, do not argue with such

                Had fun laughing .
              2. aviator_IAS
                aviator_IAS 15 June 2013 21: 56
                +2
                TRUFF, do not argue with such


                Correctly! Do not feed the troll. Obviously it provokes. Most likely this is some sort of moronic schoolboy having fun from boredom. A changing flag usually hints at a proxy server. Or simons decided to get off the Russians smile
                1. simons
                  simons 15 June 2013 22: 12
                  -7
                  Oh, why do I need you to prove something.
                  1. MVS
                    MVS 15 June 2013 22: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: simons
                    Oh, why do I need you to prove something.

                    The answer to all your posts http://natribu.org/
                  2. MVS
                    MVS 15 June 2013 22: 32
                    +4
                    Quote: MVS
                    Quote: simons
                    Oh, why do I need you to prove something.

                    The answer to all your posts

                    or like this
                2. MG42
                  MG42 16 June 2013 00: 50
                  +4
                  Quote: simons
                  Oh, why do I need you to prove something.

                  simons today registered, gave birth to 24 posts on one branch in excessive torment, get a sweet candy from Uncle Sam, shard .. negative
              3. MG42
                MG42 16 June 2013 01: 00
                +4
                Quote: aviator_IAS
                A changing flag usually hints at a proxy server.

                And that the hands are hooks, a thick troll ...
        2. Very old
          Very old 15 June 2013 20: 33
          +3
          SIMONS, did you come to that site? Ali got lost?
    3. Very old
      Very old 15 June 2013 20: 31
      0
      To chew? As the same Brad Pitt said
  • Very old
    Very old 15 June 2013 20: 02
    0
    Yes. But they could not dispose.
  • fisherman
    fisherman 15 June 2013 16: 10
    +3
    More leaks of US secrets.
    1. yak69
      yak69 15 June 2013 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: fisherman
      More leaks of US secrets.

      And what will it give us? When the traitors in power in the country, no leakage can give an advantage! A leak must be used, and who needs it, if we lose our positions in the world one after another (Angola, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Libya). I’ll explain to the especially gifted: Iraq and Libya are not really our allies, but the fact that they opposed the USA and the geyropa and sought to destroy the dollar’s ​​monopoly already pulled serious forces and resources of NATO and amers and gave us certain advantages, starting from the sale of weapons and construction equipment until the linking and annihilation of all kinds of mercenaries and the NATO troops themselves on their fronts.
      1. simons
        simons 15 June 2013 17: 30
        -13 qualifying.
        Oh, how everything is running for you. Gaddafi has never been a friend of Russia. Russia did not defend him, did not block UN decisions. Gaddafi was interesting simply as a buyer. Not to mention the half-crazy Saddam. And Cuba is there too. You are confusing the exorbitant ambitions of the USSR and real benefits. The only people to whom Russia should and can rely on something is the Belarusians, not even the "Serbian brothers" and others.
        1. Nuar
          Nuar 15 June 2013 20: 10
          +6
          give me a button to put a "minus" all simons comments in this thread ... Etozh you will be tired to read and minus them manually!
          1. Truffoff
            Truffoff 15 June 2013 20: 15
            +2
            Quote: Nuar
            give me a button to put a "minus" on all simons comments in this thread ... Etozh you will be tired of manually reading and minus them!

            goodYes, SMERSH had a hard job request
        2. Very old
          Very old 15 June 2013 20: 44
          0
          Good Mr., let it be known to you: Serbia is the only country, the only people that has never waged war on Russia. My ancestors came to Russia during the time of Catherine the 2nd, then Gregory Count POTEMKIN gathered all the Slavs (and not only) in a heap to beat the Turks. You have already been advised to carefully read the story ...
        3. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 15 June 2013 21: 47
          +3
          Quote: simons
          Gaddafi has never been a friend of Russia. Russia did not defend him; UN decisions did not block him.


          Democratic, you are ours! Russia did not protect him and did not block him in the UN .... because in the Country the leadership has not only Boys - Kibalchisha, but also Boys - Bad guys, lovers of "jam jars and a box of cookies"! Or is this news to you?
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            1. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 22: 21
              +2
              Quote: simons
              So why defend a dictator who has nothing to do with rushka?

              Does glory of Gorbi give you peace? Want to become Gorby 2.0, become
              President of SESheAshki))
              You already know the economy. You know the history. Good luck!
  • Komodo
    Komodo 15 June 2013 16: 10
    0
    It is urgent to create a domestic analogue of the Internet.
    And the state should take control over all this. This is completely and completely about him ... fuck.
    Okay, they are following the amers, do not care, WE ARE FOLLOWING US!
    I have photos from secret uranium objects on Facebook. what
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 June 2013 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: Komodo
      It is urgent to create a domestic analogue of the Internet.

      Scha, NANO Chubais is already working on your idea. The tablet is already ready, it remains the case for small, another 30 billion to shove and that's it.
      1. Komodo
        Komodo 15 June 2013 17: 35
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Scha, NANO Chubais is already working on your idea. The tablet is already ready, it remains the case for small, another 30 billion to shove and that's it.

        And we also have to work and work on Chubais ...
        1. Very old
          Very old 15 June 2013 20: 47
          +1
          Will not work. Who will touch him? Son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch
  • Orel
    Orel 15 June 2013 16: 17
    +3
    The issue of disclosing state secrets is controversial. From the point of view of the law, this is a crime. But if the disclosure aims to expose immoral and inhuman acts, then this is difficult to treat as an absolute evil ...
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 15 June 2013 17: 19
      0
      Or rather, as it will be more convenient at that moment to the main force, it will be so.
  • treskoed
    treskoed 15 June 2013 16: 32
    +2
    I do not exclude that a certain percentage of "leaks" are planned to achieve some goals
  • Net
    Net 15 June 2013 16: 34
    +5
    And I was struck by a video with a helicopter shooting journalists. One holds on his shoulder a hefty video camera can be seen perfectly, and the shooter immediately comments: RPG! what Well, then the meat ... Immediately imagined if it was our helicopter, human rights activists like the old tortoise Alekseeva and the grandmaster of known nationality would crawl out right away, and no way! Foreign agents, what else can you say!
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 15 June 2013 16: 42
    +1
    angler RU
    More leaks of US secrets.

    In the United States - leaks for which the perpetrators of these leaks are declared traitors and imprisoned for many years. And in Russia, people who were trying to sell military secrets were threatened with a finger, maybe of course there was nothing secret in these documents, but for the mere intention to become traitor, must be punished, or expelled from the country. And if we take into account that there are so many agents of the CRU in the government, I can imagine how many state secrets have already "leaked" and no one has been punished. Although how can we admit a gorbochev, he would have punished himself, or something ..., for THIS he was awarded ...
    Well, about the USA - what about human RIGHTS in this country? And it turns out this applies to all people on the planet! Why are the "human rights activists" silent, do not defend the right of people to know that they are being watched? I can imagine how the whole WORLD would scream if it were Russia to establish surveillance over the Amerikos and all people of the planet!
  • cartridge
    cartridge 15 June 2013 17: 00
    +2
    The USA is the main evil in our world!
    1. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 17: 20
      -12 qualifying.
      Don't you think that you think more about the USA than they think about Russia?
  • Black
    Black 15 June 2013 17: 04
    +2
    Quote: ia-ai00
    Why are the "human rights activists" silent, do not defend the right of people to know that they are being watched?


    American surveillance, she’s for good! she’s democratic, philanthropic, and the freest!

    Murder will out. And if in this "bag" the goal is global and total hegemony on the globe, then the means "do not smell." The latest leak about all-out listening is a mystery? The Internet is the ideal site for a spy; the main resources and control belong to them.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 15 June 2013 17: 12
    +1
    scandal infographic
  • Spiridon
    Spiridon 15 June 2013 17: 18
    0
    And whoever forces you to spread all the resources available, you need to be more modest and no one will show interest in you. And the secret is when three people know it, but two of them are dead;) Less your personal life needs to be advertised in social networks, you will not turn out pockets before the first comer?
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    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 June 2013 22: 58
      +3
      Quote: askkasko
      I want to share with you my recent find,


      In vain the spammer is hustling, here from the dolby there is one troll simons. You would have to some Svidomo resource-there scammers just expanse, the local contingent contributes to it.
  • Gipmol
    Gipmol 15 June 2013 18: 14
    0
    I'm generally in a ... yeah, to report that gas was used in SYRIA by phone, they can't lie openly, then they'll say, "WHO said I was talking?" I am not me and W..PA is not mine
  • Ustian
    Ustian 15 June 2013 19: 14
    +4
    "The collapse of the USSR is the greatest positive event of the XNUMXth century." And the disintegration of your personality is the greatest positive event of the XXI! I beg your pardon
    1. Very old
      Very old 15 June 2013 20: 51
      +1
      Don't argue with freaks
      1. Danash I
        Danash I 15 June 2013 21: 31
        +2
        OLD, HE IS NOT ONE THOUGHT THINKING. VERY TALKING THE GMO BRAINED THROUGH IT, IT IS NOT WRONG. WE WOULD LESS ATTENTION TO SPEND THEM, HERE IT'S RIGHT, but the Russian Federation only gets up from its knees, but surely. and when he gets up well, and where will the name be? yes he will be asked back.
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 15 June 2013 20: 20
    +3
    Quote: simons
    In the 91st put the country on the brink of starvation in general due to the collapse of oil prices


    Dear! So who put the country on the brink of starvation? Do you by any chance remember on whose command Saudi Arabia "lowered" oil prices just to "shake" the USSR? Ask more questions, enlightened you, ours!
    1. simons
      simons 15 June 2013 20: 35
      -9
      Arabia "lowered" oil prices just to "shake" the USSR?

      This is a conspiracy thesis of a student. Oil prices fell, and this happens on the world market and the USSR instantly sucked, as they say, because the dependence on petrodollar was high. It’s ridiculous to buy food from the hated West for its own dollars.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 15 June 2013 20: 41
        0
        REFERENCE
        The supply of TVs in the USSR in 1970 was 100 per 51 families, in 1975 already 74, in 1970 refrigerators in 32, 61 in five years, 1975 out of a hundred families owned washing machines in 65 . In 1975, in the United States, 10% of families did not have televisions and 30% had no washing machines.
      2. Truffoff
        Truffoff 15 June 2013 20: 43
        +2
        Quote: simons
        This is a conspiracy thesis of a student. Oil prices fell, and this happens on the world market and the USSR instantly sucked, as they say, because the dependence on petrodollar was high. It’s ridiculous to buy food from the hated West for its own dollars.

        What do you forget about your perestroika heroes who created such a situation? How many medals have you given them? Erect a monument to them, if it weren’t for them, their Indians would run as servants.
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 15 June 2013 20: 50
        +1
        This is not conspiracy theories, these are facts. As far as I remember, Z. Brzezinski wrote about this. But even this did not finish the economy. The last straw was the earthquake in Armenia and Chernobyl. To eliminate the consequences had to spend a lot of money.
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          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 15 June 2013 20: 58
            0
            Again, they are about the hunger of Coca. That in America people are starving.
          2. Misantrop
            Misantrop 15 June 2013 21: 01
            +1
            Quote: simons
            helplessness of the soviet economy

            Well, enough already tryndet about something that you either don't remember, or you just don't know from an early age. There was no economy in the Soviet USSR, it was NOT AT ALL. There was a science of "political economy of socialism", when plans and targets were appointed by party apparatchiks, and economic managers (who had no decision-making rights at all) were responsible for implementation. Did such a system have a chance NOT to collapse? Let's say thanks to N.S. Khrushchev, who canceled personal responsibility for the decision made. All subsequent shifts were only a consequence of this, which allowed not only to drag the right people to warm places, but also to ensure a safe existence for them
          3. Genady1976
            Genady1976 15 June 2013 21: 05
            +2
            In the USSR, all citizens received, in turn, free housing. In terms of growth rates and volumes of housing construction, the USSR occupied the first place in the world. From the family budget, not a penny was put aside for this need.
          4. Lopatov
            Lopatov 15 June 2013 21: 12
            +1
            But there was no money due to lower revenues from hydrocarbons and cotton, the war in Afghanistan, Chernobyl, Spitak and a bunch of parasites outside the country, whose contents were not reduced. To not run away.
            1. Truffoff
              Truffoff 15 June 2013 21: 16
              +4
              Quote: Spade
              But there was no money due to lower revenues from hydrocarbons and cotton, the war in Afghanistan, Chernobyl, Spitak and a bunch of parasites outside the country, whose contents were not reduced. To not run away.

              And Gorby is at the helm.
          5. Truffoff
            Truffoff 15 June 2013 21: 13
            +3
            Quote: simons
            The last straw was crop failure-88, when there was nothing to eat stupidly, but there was no more money.

            And your American super hero M. Gorbachev, since 1985, systematically destroyed the country. In six years, he destroyed it. Not one of course with the help of other such super heroes. Imagine what the leader of a country can or cannot do in order to break up the country in six years.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 15 June 2013 21: 23
              +2
              Yes, everyone is to blame. Snickering. Lazy. Having created a huge clumsy management system, this very management was lost - constantly, deficiencies began to arise from scratch. He was small, but I remember how dad with cigarettes was tormented.

              In short, not only Tagged, but the whole elite right up to the level of regional leadership
              1. Truffoff
                Truffoff 15 June 2013 21: 40
                +4
                Quote: Spade
                Yes, everyone is to blame. Snickering. Lazy. Having created a huge clumsy management system, this very management was lost - constantly, deficiencies began to arise from scratch. He was small, but I remember how dad with cigarettes was tormented.

                In short, not only Tagged, but the whole elite right up to the level of regional leadership

                I watched recently Soviet films of the 80s, trying to understand what happened to the nation. And looking at faces, deeds, delving into dialogues, he made a discovery for himself. They became bored! I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, but I have developed just such a stable feeling.
      4. fzr1000
        fzr1000 16 June 2013 00: 21
        +3
        Soon, someone on the other side of the earth will fall asleep. See that you are not sucked at the same time. Or r ... not drowning?
  • Stix
    Stix 15 June 2013 20: 41
    -5
    and what is a scoop?
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 15 June 2013 20: 43
      +2
      This current is called by enemies to my side where I was born
    2. Truffoff
      Truffoff 15 June 2013 21: 51
      +1
      Quote: STIX
      and what is a scoop?

      Which country do you live in?
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 16 June 2013 00: 27
      +2
      A scoop is a shovel. And Simon is still not very learned in Russian how to bleat, and that's confused.
  • Stix
    Stix 15 June 2013 20: 46
    +1
    And what is a scoop for me THERE WAS AND WILL BE THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE and who said and who said that the USSR collapsed there was an occupation
  • individual
    individual 15 June 2013 21: 32
    +2
    US President Barack Obama believes that the threat of terrorism is much more important than privacy.
    I draw your attention to the fact that this is a conflict of interests of Barack Obama. The main liberal of the world propagating the priority of human rights over state interests with fire and sword, when it comes to the terrorist threat, he reasoned quite reasonably. It remains to transform our consciousness into the realities of the modern world and abandon the double standards of its foreign policy.
  • Genady1976
    Genady1976 15 June 2013 21: 37
    +4
    Quote: simons
    Why protect the United States? A normal country, with civil society, the highest incomes of the population, a strong army.
  • aviator_IAS
    aviator_IAS 15 June 2013 22: 28
    +1
    Access to this report was received by one of the analysts of the US Department of State Daniel Ellsberg (Daniel Ellsberg), who secretly copied the most important of his head and sent them to the editor of The New York Times. The report has had an important role in the decision of the US government to curtail support for South Vietnam and withdraw its troops from this country. The fate of the author of the leak, Ellsberg, is interesting. He was threatened with 116 years in prison for divulging state secrets, but under public pressure, the court acquitted him, citing the fact that the evidence against him had been obtained through illegal wiretapping. The US Supreme Court also found no fault in the actions of The New York Times, which accepted the Pentagon Papers for publication.


    Notice how the "freest country" has become "even freer." It is unlikely that Bradley Manning can now count on the same leniency of the court. It is significant that now, in the camp of "probable friends" there are more and more heroes who, realizing the full danger of their actions, not for money, and not recruited by the SVR, reveal to the world the real face of the United States. You can even say HARU. So Edward Snowden could no longer deceive his conscience. It would be nice to give him political asylum. Such a specialist will always come in handy. But most likely it will be taken over by the Chinese. They will be very curious to know the methods of enemy cyber attacks.
  • Skifo
    Skifo 15 June 2013 22: 44
    0
    It would be much better if the leak occurred before the Americans destroyed another state and the data were published when crime could still be prevented. For example, about the invasion of Syria, otherwise there is no sense in these revelations ...
    They are laughing at us current - they say look how we fool you, but you are silent and can not do anything ...
  • Vladomir
    Vladomir 15 June 2013 22: 46
    +3
    Russia was, is and will be. We relax from a peaceful and calm life in order to then mobilize and come to a new one, 1945 over those who occupied us. And even though we do not have as much wealth as Anglo-America acquired through blood and robberies, we have the Russian spirit and God! Yes, we have not reached the "highest income" ... We, mainly through the fault of our enemies, lost more than 20 million people in the 50th century, the United States lost 1.2 million people in its entire history. USA - "the strongest army"? Against the weakest? In all the wars of the second half of the 20th century, which the United States waged against the USSR in foreign territories, the Anglo-Amers completely lost (Korea, Vietnam, Angola ...). And only Judas and the traitor Gorbach stopped this process. In the 21st century, Russia must regain the lost positions of the 1st and 2nd world wars and recover all the loot from it.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 June 2013 23: 03
    0
    It seems that the United States deliberately adjusts all these leaks. The leaks are adjusted so that the whole world is angry with them .. + the fact that it unties their hands like "Look, everyone hates us .. we need to build up weapons and bomb those who do not agree with us .."
  • Tektor
    Tektor 15 June 2013 23: 22
    0
    This Edward Snowden is that still a dark horse ... It is quite possible that a kind of multi-move is being played out with the introduction of an agent with the sauce of "his own on the board" and with a "legend".
  • Aryan
    Aryan 16 June 2013 00: 32
    0
    Achtung !!! The plot of the bad boys DETECTED !!!
  • maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 16 June 2013 00: 45
    +6
    Dear forum users, I read the skirmish of many of you with Mr. simons about the USSR and its collapse. I think you should not discuss with a person whose intellect is Sharikov. Monosyllabic phrases like: there was nothing, the collapse of the USSR is the greatest positive event of the twentieth century, standing in line for Romanian bast shoes and sausage on holidays, about the USA: at least there is food there, even black, hide under themselves ignorance and one-sided perception of history. He apparently forgot that the Great Depression was also in the states that financed it, and there was nothing to eat there either (a large number of people); that the collapse of the USSR was provoked by a skillful game on the price of oil + betrayal by the ruling elite (Shevardnadze, Gorbachev and others like them) + excellent work by Western intelligence agencies, who were able to take advantage of US internal contradictions both within the ruling elite and at the ethnic level . At that time it can be said was the victory of your simons owners, they hoped that this situation would last forever, it didn’t work out. Now we have food in stores and the Internet, we have learned so poor and poor. But we must carry out work among us, sow confusion and discord, the State Department allocates money for this to people like you. only now the selection of personnel has become less quality than before. Learn, read more, maybe someone will be able to tame Mr. Simons ...
  • Aryan
    Aryan 16 June 2013 01: 15
    +1
    Achtung !!! The plot of the bad boys DETECTED !!!
    what the hell are the pictures on vstavlyayutstsa?
  • My address
    My address 16 June 2013 07: 03
    +1
    The embassy did not wake up. I do not see any minuses.
  • tsiter
    tsiter 16 June 2013 19: 09
    -1
    I want to share with you my recent discovery, this is a service for finding any information about a person! As I saw, I looked and thought that it was all a divorce, but after a minute I was horrified to see all the information about myself, about my friends, about my boyfriend! There is literally everything there and it's all in the public domain! Here you take a look = - rf / geB
  • Anti com
    Anti com 16 June 2013 20: 44
    +1
    The latest "leak" has not opened America to anyone. All more or less sane people know that the United States listens to everyone and everything, especially without ceremony with legality and morality ... It was, and it will be so. Until they run into their own rake.
  • J. Tapia
    J. Tapia 16 June 2013 21: 49
    +1
    as on simonsa all got fed up ...)
  • Aryan
    Aryan 17 June 2013 12: 18
    0
    torture can be achieved
  • viktoxz
    viktoxz 17 June 2013 16: 53
    0
    people you have not heard that the entire database of Internet users has been leaked to the network with open access! There is all the information from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. There you can of course delete your data if you do not want everyone to see them. Here is the link- http://addr.pk/a619a