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Successful strategy of Russia and geopolitical fiasco of the West

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In the past not only that weeks, but already months, in the Western press began to write a lot about the geostrategic successes of Russia. Like, everything that the Kremlin does, with him, the Kremlin, passes brilliantly and consistently brought to life. On this festive background, the West itself looks unusually faded: analysts assign it the role of someone who, if not lost in geopolitics, has faded into the background. The frantic opponents of Russia have already begun to criticize the West.


Parisian Francois Hisbur in the fresh material posted on the pages of the column "Opinion" in "New York Times" (translation source - Mixednews.ru), writes bluntly that "Russian policy is accompanied by success, but the calculations and actions of the West have not justified themselves." The publicist is referring to the Syrian question. By the way, Hisbour cannot be attributed to the fans of Bashar Assad. In his article, he refers to the Syrian president as a “dictator”, his manner of government as “regime”, and his methods as “repression”.

The author believes that thanks to the military, political and diplomatic support provided by Russia to Syria, this very “regime of the Syrian dictator” did not fall, but the “repressions” continued. The author calls the United Nations Security Council "paralyzed." This is where the criticism of the West begins. The West, according to a French publicist, was unable to shape events on the ground.

The opposition in Syria is fragmented militarily and politically. The tone in it is set by the "ferocious jihadist elements." European jihad warriors, now operating there, may return home armed and trained - and new terrorist attacks will take place in the West.

Noting the success of the Russian geopolitical strategy (this is a taboo topic in the West), Francois Hisbour quickly declares it “short-lived”.

"President Vladimir Putin has forced to reckon with his opinion, and now in the interests of Russia he will cooperate with the West and help create the conditions for completing the bloodshed in Syria."


Very strange premise and completely absurd conclusion. It seems that the winner must begin to cooperate with the loser, but it will not be bad for him.

Why can Russia be bad?

Hisbur thinks that Russia will have to “deal with extremely grave consequences.”

It is impossible to understand this, until you come across the following statement in the material:

"The Kremlin, interested in preserving its long-term investment, seemed to make sense to stay on the right side of those in power in Syria."


Everything becomes clear. In Syria, there is the right side, and there is the wrong one. Russia now supports the wrong. But when she begins to cooperate with the West, despite his geopolitical blunders, she will make the right decision. After all, the West is famous for its ability to distinguish the right from the wrong. Actually, the West has a monopoly on the difference between bad and good.

The Frenchman lists those included in the world history the rulers with whom Assad wanted him in one row: Tunisian leader Zine el Abidine Ben Ali, Egyptian Hosni Mubarak, Libyan Muammar Gaddafi, Yemeni Ali Abdullah Saleh. Making a list, he notes that “in similar societies, the same reasons, as a rule, give the same consequences”.

The hint is clear: Russia was against Muammar, so we must be against Asad. And this is not a hint ...

“Russia has a significant — and perhaps overwhelming — degree driven by a desire to punish the Western powers for having abused, in her eyes, the powers given to them by the Security Council in order to overthrow Gaddafi.”


As a result, the West was created obstacles in the UN.

However, the author believes that Moscow wins little here. After all, the civil war in Syria means that Russia's interests in this country are losing their value. In Assad, in splitting Syria, he is holding himself not as the head of a functioning state, but as a field commander who is stronger than others. Presumably, the journalist concludes, Russia's ultimate interest is not to become a side victim of the spinning flywheel of jihadism.

All this French material, published in the American newspaper, consists of logically little connected fragments. But suddenly, in the very end of the article, the author’s head clears up - and he gives out a gem of elegant journalism:

"Now it is in the interests of the West to refrain from arming the jihadists and to support a political decision, preferably without Assad, but probably not without the ruling Baath Party and the bureaucracy."


David Goldman, author of “How civilization will die (and why Islam will die too),” published in 2011, the author of an essay on culture, religion and economics, junior researcher at the Middle East Forum, in a new article in Asia Times (translation source - Mixednews.ru) notes that Russia sticks sticks in the West, promising to supply the government of Bashar al-Assad with the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems. This Goldman sees humiliation for the West.

“For the West, this is humiliating - to stumble over Russian technology changing the rules of the game almost a quarter of a century after the fall of the Berlin Wall. An even more disgraceful fact is that the West has no countermeasures against the Russian system, and this is the result of wrong priorities in defense over the past dozen years. If the United States spent at least a portion of the resources that they had invested in state-building in Iraq and Afghanistan on anti-missile technologies, Russia would not have had enough trump cards in the negotiations from the start. However, what has been done is done, and now the next question is already relevant: what should the West do now? ”


Before giving advice, the author believes that it is necessary to give answers to urgent questions. The main issues are two. Is the game rational in Russia? Suppose so, but what then leads her behavior?

In order to correctly answer these purely American questions, which already contain, if not answers, then hints at them, the author designates those axioms on which the US policy throughout the world has been based for several decades.

For the most dull, he clarifies that Russia's intervention in the affairs of the Middle East is "unprincipled." Alas, however much the West dislikes the way in which the Russians conduct their business, it is not in the power of the West to change the “character of the Russian regime”. Therefore, in Russia there is also a “regime”.

He further writes that Russia has become friends with Hezbollah terrorists. This is proved by Jean-Aziz’s message from Al-Monitor, which claims that the April 28 meeting in Lebanon, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov, with Hezbollah head Nasrallah marks a turning point in Russia's relations with this organization. So, Russia has built an alliance with a Lebanese terrorist organization.

But with Iran, Russia, something does not add up. At the moment, Iran is pursuing Russia in court for its refusal to supply the C-300 system - in the meantime, Russia claims that it is sending the same system to Syria.

"Russia's refusal to fulfill its obligations under the contract with Tehran is a signal that Putin’s regime will not grieve strongly if someone destroys Iran’s nuclear weapons. Russia is not interested in helping a fanatical regime deploy nuclear weapons on its southern flank. ”


How to explain Russia's support for the “Assad regime”? The journalist admits that Moscow "gets satisfaction from the paralysis of the West in the region and is trying to put the United States and its allies in an awkward position ..." True, this is "a secondary matter." Well, what else?

The Kremlin may well want to "demonstrate to the world that it is not abandoning its allies in the way the United States did to the former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak." But this is also a minor issue.

The author stresses that the Russian Federation has a road for the Navy’s material supply point in Tartus, which expands the scope of the presence of the naval fleet Russia in the Eastern Mediterranean.

And, more importantly, Russia is afraid of Sunni jihadists who dominate among the insurgent opposition.

A publicist recalls that Russia 20 has waged a fierce war against jihadists in the North Caucasus for years. The Caucasus terrorism has spread to the United States at the Boston Marathon bombings, the author claims.

The number of the Russian population in Russia is decreasing, the journalist reminds, and by the middle of the century a Muslim majority may well form in the country. It is worth the chaos to cover the Muslim world on the southern border, and through the North Caucasus it will spread to Russia.

Further, David Goldman notes that during the Cold War, the United States supported jihadists in Afghanistan and other places to complicate the life of the Soviet empire. It was right, he writes, without doubting in the least, the publicist, "because the Soviet threat to American security outweighed all the inconveniences that the United States could incur at the hands of jihadists."

And now Russia is convinced, he notes, that America still intends to encourage jihad in order to destabilize its former adversary in the cold war.

So - what to do? The author poses this Russian question to the West. More precisely, before the United States.

Mr Goldman proposed a whole plan for resolving the Syrian crisis.

The first thing the great democratic America should support is the split of Syria. It should be split into a state with a Sunni majority and the Alawite "stump" in the north-western sector of the country. Kurds need to be given autonomy - just like in Iraq. There will be a protest by the Turkish authorities, but Erdogan will have to “lose”.

To divide Syria into pieces, the author believes, is the only way to stop the civil war, because otherwise, the complete victory of one of the parties will inevitably be followed by a massacre.

The most humane decision author sees "a divorce after the example of the former Yugoslavia."

Assad may rule the stump country. Alawites there will be safe from Sunni massacres, while the Russians will retain their filling base.

It is strange that the “Washington party” has not yet considered this option, the analyst notes.

The second point of the plan is as follows. The United States should use its influence on Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to cleanse the Sunni insurgents in Syria from “frostbitten jihadist elements”.

Following the implementation of the first two points, it is necessary to move on to the third - the attack of Iran. It is necessary “to destroy its nuclear weapons production facilities and the main bases of the Revolutionary Guards ...”

What happens next?

The Alawite army of Assad will be clogged and will cease to be a source of strategic threat, and the Sunni regime with the Kurdish autonomous zone will be susceptible to pressure from the West.

Further, the journalist accuses Obama of lack of common sense. The essence of the problem, he writes, is the Obama administration’s ideological rejection of the use of force against Iran. Putin’s position, according to the journalist, is more susceptible to America’s strategic demands than Obama’s “counterintuitive” position.

Obama, the author hints, is unable to draw a clear line between the zones of the world, where the US has unshakable interests, and the zones where bargaining is possible. The refusal to deploy antimissile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic was an “act of supreme idiocy” by the Obama administration. The demonstration of weakness in front of the Russians, writes a publicist, evokes disrespect in response.

"The United States must make it clear that there are cultural threads and a blood connection between the Poles and the Czechs on the one hand, and the American people on the other, and we will stand for them at all costs."


But Ukraine America to anything. America "has no strategic interests in Ukraine." The pro-Moscow Party of Regions, the author notes, firmly holds on to power. Next, Goldman writes:

"The opposition has become infected with a dangerous strain of anti-Semitism, as Rachel Ehrenfeld, director of the American Center for Democracy, told 30 in May."


He continues:

“What we have learned from the ten years of our clumsy movements is that Russia can take Ukraine if it wants to, and we don’t really need it at all. With the exception of Hungary, Ukraine has the lowest birth rate from all European countries. Its strategic importance will fall along with its demographics. ”


In addition to denoting the true geopolitical priorities, the White House administration “needs to do exactly what Ronald Reagan and his team formulated in 1981 year: convincing the Russians that America will surpass them in military technology.” The United States should “aggressively” fund basic research under the old DARPA scenarios (Agency for Advanced Defense Research). The publicist thinks that if "forcing Putin to believe that his residual advantage in anti-aircraft missile technologies has reached its" shelf life ", he will be much more flexible over the whole range of issues under discussion."

And the author immediately states that "the political situation is not conducive to this approach." And stubbornly states that "this does not change the fact that this is exactly what should be done."

Thus, paranoid analysts (who have long found their niche in the United States and in the West in general), while continuing to yelp at Russia, through “I don’t want” recognize that there is little that favors American approaches, but the Kremlin is doing business on the world stage with success. Publicists, one after another, believe that the West should continue to yelp - about the same way as it yelled during the Cold War (which the authors clearly recall with nostalgia), although less money and political opportunities remain for yelping. Even the UN Security Council was already in the hands of the Russians.

The only way Mr. Goldman saw was to try to trick the inflexible Putin by instilling in him the idea of ​​US military-technological superiority.

Goldman forgets that Reagan was an actor, and the Soviet secretary general, Brezhnev, a deep, marasmic old man, and in 1981, such a performance was held on “bravo” and gathered a full house. Now is another time. Moreover, Obama promised to be flexible, and not Putin at all.

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  1. Phantom Revolution
    Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 07: 51 New
    18
    That’s just the answer when Assad is already crushing in full, the West wants a continuation of a bloody banquet.

    1. KBPC50
      KBPC50 14 June 2013 09: 17 New
      +7
      Yes, they really want a banquet on the blood and grief of the people. The French have become more than strange. Although they had a lot in Syria! The best lands and much more. And now they want to revive their sovereignty. Everything that François Hissbourg wrote is a continuous order. His last name is .... No, he is not a Frenchman, an alien.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 10: 17 New
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        Quote: KBPC50
        Yes, they really want a banquet on the blood and grief of the people. The French have become more than strange. Although they had a lot in Syria! The best lands and much more. And now they want to revive their sovereignty. Everything that François Hissbourg wrote is a continuous order. His last name is .... No, he is not a Frenchman, an alien.

        The funny thing is, they are justified by the fact that 100 people allegedly died!) But in view of the fact that thousands die because of pumping up the same topic with the guns of bandits, they bypass. Lying creatures that do not care about human lives .....
        1. vezunchik
          vezunchik 14 June 2013 16: 59 New
          +2
          Everything is played out according to a well-established scenario.
    2. Orel
      Orel 14 June 2013 09: 23 New
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      If the West freaks out and begins to sprinkle poison in all directions, then they really have ... It would be worse if they were calm.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 14 June 2013 15: 41 New
        +6
        Quote: Orel
        If the West freaks out and begins to sprinkle poison in all directions, then they really have ... It would be worse if they were calm.


        These guys can simply take out and bomb everything in Syria from malice. Just arrange the shooting of obsolete tomahawks in a square-nested manner ... and no one can do anything.

        My opinion is pure: Makein should be kept in a muzzle, like Ganibal Lector in the film, and kept in a madhouse.
    3. Orel
      Orel 14 June 2013 09: 24 New
      0
      If the West freaks out and begins to sprinkle poison in all directions, then they really have ... It would be worse if they were calm.
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 14 June 2013 09: 32 New
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      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      West wants a continuation of a bloody banquet


      The first channel
      07:03
      US decided to provide military assistance to the Syrian opposition
      Rhodes refused to clarify what kind of military assistance was being discussed.

      Here are the bastards ... you see a very big bet was made on Syria .. "and sponsors need to fulfill what they promised .. sponsors probably in the IMF FRS and such as Goldmann Sachs?
      "Buratino" and "Bumblebee" must be delivered to the Syrians ... they will smoke out of all the shelters and do not need to boil ... I am sure after the first "acquaintance" the second will be avoided by all means.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 10: 18 New
        +7
        Quote: Scoun
        "Buratino" and "Bumblebee" must be delivered to the Syrians ... they will smoke out of all the shelters and do not need to boil ... I am sure after the first "acquaintance" the second will be avoided by all means.

        By the way, for some reason they do not use bumblebees ....... but only RPGs, even officers do not really say why.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 14 June 2013 11: 31 New
          +2
          Maybe the question is price and convenience? RPGs can take one and several charges to it, but you can’t take a few bumblebees especially, and it’s not convenient in conditions when you need to make your way through the ruins. Although, maybe I'm wrong, but such an option is the place to be.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 14 June 2013 10: 49 New
        +2
        Stake: the gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe through Syria, Gazprom-RUSSIA to "collapse"! There is no economy!
    5. Gari
      Gari 14 June 2013 10: 17 New
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      In recent weeks, not only weeks, but already months, the Western press began to write a lot about the geostrategic successes of Russia. Like, everything that the Kremlin does, with it, the Kremlin, goes brilliantly and is consistently brought to life
      Good morning to everyone, and indeed in Syria it is, Syria held out thanks to its Leader and to the people who love him and devoted his Motherland, and of course to the allies who supported Syria on all visible and invisible fronts, and Russia, of course, is in the forefront.
      I think that with this Russia has gained even more credibility and respect throughout the Middle East
      You can say the first time and with such success!
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 14 June 2013 10: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: Gari
        I think that with this Russia has gained even more credibility and respect throughout the Middle East

        I think that it will gain .. and for today it is the position of the Russian Federation that looks consistent and logical despite the efforts of the media to tear it out of context. (to whom the media belong can not talk ..)
        But honestly, China's position is alarming ... a year ago, their ship entered Syria with a load of 11 thousand tons (August 2012) and since then silence ... and it seems to me that in response to the US decision to support the thugs with weapons .. China can say your "word" (the time has come IMHA) if he is silent .. then you see ... it was said to sit ... "bark" you can "growl" you can't ...
        1. bazilio
          bazilio 14 June 2013 13: 18 New
          +6
          Quote: Scoun
          I think that it will gain .. and for today it is the position of the Russian Federation that looks consistent and logical despite the efforts of the media to tear it out of context

          Yes, Russia will gain prestige, and not only in the Middle East but on a global scale. But there will be dissatisfied, not only the West, but the very same Kuwait and other US partners. But that's okay. The main thing for the Russian Federation is not to slow down and stay alert. The government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should continue to work on the image of the Russian Federation as a fair, reasonable, consistent and reliable partner in the world arena, and the Defense Ministry and the military-industrial complex should add to the list of qualities "strong, ready not only in word but also in deed to defend his point of view"
          1. bazilio
            bazilio 14 June 2013 13: 25 New
            +9
            By the way, if we were talking about the image, here’s what’s immediately thought.
            How Russia is associated in other countries (not counting the west and pro-Western countries) The first thing that comes to my mind is if a natural disaster happened, Il76 with the symbols of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation is one of the first to arrive at the scene of the disaster. Russia is ready to support everyone who is in trouble. Here is this image, although the Russian Federation does not boast that it helps, but simply takes and helps. And as the United States is associated, you have oil, therefore you do not have democracy, then we go to you
          2. fuad777
            fuad777 18 June 2013 09: 02 New
            0
            Yes! And New Vasyuki will automatically become the capital of Russia, and for granted (if you harness a little logical thinking) - the capital of the whole world! wassat
        2. Check
          Check 14 June 2013 16: 07 New
          +3
          Apparently China is not such a dragon. or he has his own plans. but then what?
        3. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 15 June 2013 04: 36 New
          +1
          ... "bark" you can not "growl" ...

          So they don’t even bark.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 14 June 2013 15: 53 New
        +4
        Greetings! Today I watched an interview with the ambassador of the Russian Federation to Iran, he talked about the situation with the elections in Iran. The funny thing is who is the ambassador?

        Levan Semenovich Dzhagaryan - Armenian

        In 1973 he graduated from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations. In 1986 - the Diplomatic Academy of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the USSR.

        He worked in various positions in the central office of the Ministry and abroad: in 2001-2005. Senior Advisor, Counselor-Envoy of the Russian Embassy in Tajikistan, since 2005 - Deputy Director of the Third Department of the CIS countries.

        Since October 21, 2011, the Russian ambassador to Iran. He speaks Persian, English and French.

        PS Putin puts the Armenian in the embassy under Iran, knowing the relations of Iran and Azerbaijan around the so-called southern Azerbaijan. I think the message is clear.
        1. Che
          Che 14 June 2013 19: 40 New
          +2
          Sith, is it true that Aleppo is already cleared of rats? Or I'm wrong?
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 15 June 2013 04: 44 New
            +1
            Not cleaned. On Monday I will outline the whole situation with maps.
        2. Batman
          Batman 15 June 2013 01: 27 New
          0
          hmm

          PS Putin puts the Armenian in the embassy under Iran, knowing the relations of Iran and Azerbaijan around the so-called southern Azerbaijan. I think the message is clear.


          To be honest, I didn’t understand what you want to drive towards (since I don’t know the features of relations between Azerbaijan and Iran)
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 15 June 2013 04: 47 New
            +1
            I don’t tell you) Azerbaijan claims to be Northern Iran and calls these lands inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis - they call it South Azerbaijan. And they want to rename Azerbaijan to Northern Azerbaijan. About 7 million of them live in Iran.
      3. Gari
        Gari 14 June 2013 16: 39 New
        +5
        I already drank more than one bottle of good beer, and later we’ll transfer to my native Russian vodka, today is Friday, and tomorrow is Saturday, good luck, barbecue friends, have a very pleasant weekend, everyone
      4. Corsair
        Corsair 14 June 2013 23: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: Gari
        I think that with this Russia has gained even more credibility and respect throughout the Middle East

        A bit of Photoshop and the picture came out in the spite of the day ...
        Already let the law enforcement authorities forgive request
        1. T-73
          T-73 15 June 2013 01: 11 New
          0
          Class picture! Will I take it until the copyright law is passed? It turned out beautifully, life-affirming. Can I poke?
      5. Dilshat
        Dilshat 15 June 2013 00: 28 New
        +1
        The real success is when on the wall of the Washington White House it will be written "Satisfied with the ruins of Washington!"
    6. chaushevski
      chaushevski 14 June 2013 12: 43 New
      +2
      glory to Russia cheers comrades I feel the West is not long left
    7. Che
      Che 14 June 2013 19: 22 New
      0
      In the West they are used to taking and sharing and they don’t understand our support of the Syrian people in the fight against the intervention organized by the West. And the fact that Syria is moving towards a long-awaited peace is a positive factor for us, but for them it’s natural ...
  2. fartfraer
    fartfraer 14 June 2013 07: 53 New
    +3
    the funniest thing is when the West writes nasty things, then it is perceived as obvious pressure and envy, respectively, blatant lies, and when pleasant things are like clear evidence of the revival of past greatness. ?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 15 June 2013 00: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: fartfraer
      as clear evidence of the revival of past greatness.

      I confess, I myself have sinned with the phrase "former greatness." Russia WAS, IS AND WILL BE GREAT! We stand on that!
  3. Belogor
    Belogor 14 June 2013 07: 55 New
    19
    What to discuss here, as always - double standards and hypocrisy. There are no other approaches in the Anglo-Saxon media.
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 14 June 2013 07: 57 New
    +8
    Psychology. UN. Compliance with laws ... What are you talking about, gentlemen? After all, at this time:

    Barack Obama has decided to supply arms to the Syrian opposition. There is no official statement on the White House website yet, but the words of the Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes leave no doubt.

    According to the official, a fundamental decision has been made on the provision of military assistance. Obama will discuss with Congress exactly what weapons will be used in the coming weeks.

    At the same time, Rhodes noted that there is no talk of introducing a no-fly zone yet: it will cost the US budget too expensive. The reason for changing the American position was information that the Assad regime allegedly used chemical weapons. Obama’s decision is supported by his Republican political opponents.

    “We should not think that we must destroy the entire defense system or conduct a ground operation in order to change the situation in Syria. Our possibilities are not unlimited. “We could use our long-range weapons, such as cruise missiles, to hit Assad’s aircraft and ground-based ballistic missile systems,” said Senator John McCain. “We could create a safe zone, protect it with our Patriot missiles, and then help create an interim government in it.” And we could conduct a full-scale operation in order to train and equip the opposition forces. ”

    The decision to supply arms to the opposition was made just when the situation in Syria began to change. Government forces launched a large-scale offensive, and militants began to retreat.

    The US decision to supply weapons to the Syrian opposition was a highly anticipated step. The troops of Bashar al-Assad went on a large-scale offensive, in a few weeks the opposition suffered several sensitive defeats. The largest of them was the loss of the city of Quseir. Now the army is fighting for Aleppo.

    The Obama administration claims to have received incontrovertible evidence that government forces still used chemical weapons against the militants. But for some reason they were not presented to the public. A similar situation developed around Iraq 10 years ago - then the Bush administration also assured the whole world that it has irrefutable evidence that Baghdad has weapons of mass destruction. It was never possible to find them.

    It is curious that in this case, Democrat Obama acts in complete unity with his former rival, Republican McCain. The ex-presidential candidate, unlike Obama, is not bound by the protocol and therefore can speak frankly. According to McCain, the opposition is doomed if Washington does not help it. He needs to supply the militants with weapons, establish a no-fly zone, and strike at government forces with cruise missiles, he is sure.

    The decision of the United States caused an extremely positive reaction in London. Britain and France overcame the EU embargo on arms supplies to Syrian rebels in May. This news caused a revival in the camp of the Syrian opposition: its representatives even refused to participate in the negotiations in Geneva until they received the first tranche.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 June 2013 09: 12 New
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      The US is climbing into the trap, this will be their last war.
      If you think about how many weapons and what they will be able to put? Someone should use weapons, and there are fewer and fewer of them every day.
      The USA will not give the latest weapons, but, as always, they will take junk from warehouses and store bearded men at a reduced price. Well, they will run with two M-16s, or in used armor - I doubt very much that this will save them.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 14 June 2013 10: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: Wedmak
        If you think about how many weapons and what they will be able to put?


        If you think about it, in addition to a missile strike, all McCain's proposals have already been implemented. The Saudis armed the terrorists, and the United States and the Angles trained and trained them in neighboring territories.
    2. Dimy4
      Dimy4 14 June 2013 10: 58 New
      +9
      These guys just voiced what they have been doing for a long time.
    3. alexkross83
      alexkross83 14 June 2013 11: 33 New
      +1
      After a while, there will simply be no one to deliver weapons there ... something like that ... the pause is not accidental .. but in order to at least somehow support the Saudis and Qatar ... the United States makes loud statements. For the war with Syria is a big adventure, which I think the Obama regime will not get involved, of course, if there are brains .... But Iran has a completely different story ... you don’t have to worry about it, there is a lot to do with China.
      1. Batman
        Batman 15 June 2013 01: 34 New
        0
        But with Iran a completely different story

        No matter how the traitors of the homeland get into the Iranian government ...
  5. machine gunner
    machine gunner 14 June 2013 08: 01 New
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    Yes, really ... The analytical logic of Western zhurnalyug shows about their limitations and stupidity .. and not only zhurnalyug, unfortunately ..
    1. Denis_SF
      Denis_SF 14 June 2013 08: 56 New
      +6
      Mr Goldman proposed a whole plan for resolving the Syrian crisis.

      Not all Americans are stupid, there are just clinical ones!
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 14 June 2013 10: 58 New
        +2
        Amer is not stupid to take away, and Goldman is just a mongrel sub-fence! Just amers did not expect from Putin, after the mendel of this!
        1. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 15 June 2013 07: 51 New
          0
          I also heard about mendel, but I thought it was a joke.
    2. cartridge
      cartridge 14 June 2013 09: 03 New
      +9
      Paranoid analysts (who have long found their niche in the USA and in the West in general), while continuing to yawn at Russia, through “I don’t want” to admit that American approaches are not very favorable, but the Kremlin is doing business on the world stage with success. Publicists, one after the other, believe that the West should continue to yap - much like it did during the Cold War (which the authors obviously recall with nostalgia), although there is less and less money left for yapping. Even the UN Security Council was already in the hands of the Russians.


      I liked this quote from the article the most.
  6. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 14 June 2013 08: 04 New
    13
    excellent analysis of the situation in the article .... stsuki fear the Russian bear !!!
  7. Ivan79
    Ivan79 14 June 2013 08: 14 New
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    I believe that we should not only "show concern" in response to the supply of weapons to the Syrian thugs, but give a complete, comprehensive and adequate answer to this decision.
    Urgently send a couple of ships with gifts to Tartus. And do not hesitate until the Syrian army
    took control of the situation in the country.
    1. mizantropi
      mizantropi 14 June 2013 13: 21 New
      +5
      If you believe the same Amer sources, on the approach to Syria 3 of our BDKs. It seems that they are carrying not only humanitarian aid. The same amers suspect that the cargo, including the components of the S-300 complex. Let's hope so.
  8. maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 14 June 2013 08: 29 New
    +7
    The news has just hit the news that the State Department has received "irrefutable evidence of Assad's use of small amounts of Sarin against the opposition." After that, President Obama signed a document on the supply of weapons to the opposition. Doesn't this remind you of the situation before the war in Iraq?
    And in general, in light of the latest scandals in the CIA, the American president would need to double-check this data a hundred times. Now these damn "democratizers" will begin to push through the products of their defense industry in Syria too ... Why are we going to think about the supply of S-300? Isn't it time to make the states firmly understand that Russia will not let the situation in Syria follow the Libyan scenario. Or ... I would not want to believe in this.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 14 June 2013 08: 57 New
      15
      And why should they double-check, they know very well that chemical weapons were not used by government troops. They have been doing what they want for a long time, initially their state was built on the bones of Indians and Negroes, the very concept of democracy was redone under their deeds, they constantly lie and lie.
    2. OTTO
      OTTO 14 June 2013 09: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: maxcor1974
      The State Department has received "irrefutable data on Assad's use of small amounts of Sarin against the opposition."

      Will they again wave a test tube with washing powder from the rostrum?
      1. maxcor1974
        maxcor1974 14 June 2013 09: 22 New
        +8
        No, this time McCain will present the "gases" to the public, he has been spewing them out of himself for a long time
    3. de klermon
      de klermon 14 June 2013 12: 40 New
      +1
      The State Department has all the data "irrefutable", the further - the more irrefutable! It will go on like this, it will be necessary to state that the State Department has long deserved an "irrefutable", or rather uncontested the diagnosis!
  9. avant-garde
    avant-garde 14 June 2013 08: 34 New
    +5
    Squeak, grit your teeth until you erase them to the very roots, we’ll puff on this. We got used to the fact that everything should be according to them, but no sooner you wrote off your mother to Russia. If you don’t erase them from anger and helplessness on the Syrian issue, you will still get teeth angry.
  10. Dima190579
    Dima190579 14 June 2013 08: 35 New
    12
    The last scandal with the CIA and the drying of all phones and the Internet by his big brother is nothing more than Putin’s work ahead of schedule. Now, responsible people who already did not find their place will be even more nervous and make even more mistakes.
  11. avant-garde
    avant-garde 14 June 2013 08: 37 New
    +2
    The Barack Obama administration has concluded that the troops of President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons against rebels in Syria. It is reported by Agence France-Presse with reference to a statement by National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes.

    According to US intelligence, Rhodes noted that over the past year, chemical weapons, including sarin nerve gas, have been used by Assad’s troops several times "on a small scale." The death toll from these attacks ranged from 100 to 150 people.

    At the same time, the White House emphasized that they did not yet have reliable information on the facts of the use of chemical weapons by rebels.

    According to Reuters, in the near future the US authorities intend to provide the facts of the use of chemical weapons at their disposal to their allies, as well as to the United Nations. Washington plans to hold consultations with Moscow on this issue as part of the G17 summit, which will be held June 18-XNUMX.

    The United States also said that despite the newly discovered facts, it has not yet decided to create a no-fly zone over Syria. At the same time, Washington announced its intention to increase the provision of military assistance to Assad’s opponents, without specifying details.

    Talk about the possible use of chemical weapons in Syria continues for several months: Assad's rebels and troops have repeatedly blamed each other for such actions, but for a long time these statements were not confirmed by independent sources.

    In the spring of 2013, representatives of Israeli and American intelligence said that Assad’s troops probably used chemical weapons, noting that the data obtained require rechecking. In May 2013, the UN announced the availability of data that could indicate the use of sarin by rebels, rather than the government army. In early June, France, the United Kingdom and Turkey made conclusions about the use of chemical weapons in Syria based on laboratory research.

    US President Barack Obama said in the summer of 2012 that the Assad’s use of chemical weapons would be a kind of “red line”, which could be followed by a full-fledged intervention in Syria. A few months later, however, he somewhat softened the tone of his remarks, noting that all alleged cases should receive independent assessments.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 14 June 2013 08: 47 New
      12
      but that already means something. This means that the supply of S-300 is already late. What the United States has already decided for itself and will go this route. And we are almost late. But as always. We always believe Hitler, Bush, Merkel, fagots french, but you can never believe. History should teach us this.
      1. alexng
        alexng 15 June 2013 00: 06 New
        +3
        Hardly late. I think there are already prepared all sorts of surprises for US callers, such as "Club" and other delights. And now the usual yapping from the side of the amerikakashka rides, as they warned them that if there is an intervention in Syria, then all the aircraft carrier groups in the vicinity will simply be sunk, because there is no Russian anti-ship defense systems in the world. And without the AUGs, the ameri turn into a garden scarecrow. And they are still wondering whether the S-300s are already in Syria or they are just being transported - a rhetorical question, since no one believes in the West anymore. It is for this reason that they both want to and prick, but the bench press does not allow.
        1. Batman
          Batman 15 June 2013 01: 45 New
          +1
          Hardly late. I think there are already prepared all sorts of surprises for US callers, such as "Club" and other delights.

          I agree :) And I think it’s not in vain that there are global purges in major cities in Syria ... This, in addition to closing the borders from arms supplies, is also a strategic point for all of these systems.
    2. Batman
      Batman 15 June 2013 01: 39 New
      +1
      until they decided to create a no-fly zone over Syria

      This right is most striking, who gave it to them at all ?, everything, the unipolar world is over, the United States will no longer be able to do such things)
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 June 2013 08: 41 New
    +6
    They crush Assad into a brazen .. Again their favorite "invention" about chem. weapons are put into operation .. would come up with something new.
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 14 June 2013 08: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Would come up with something new.

      I won’t be surprised how much if they search for nuclear weapons there tomorrow.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 14 June 2013 09: 24 New
        +2
        There is such an anecdote about a nuclear cannon of the 18th century.
      2. Batman
        Batman 15 June 2013 01: 46 New
        0
        Would come up with something new.

        Improved Gaus Rail Gun capable of destroying planets.
    2. Simon
      Simon 14 June 2013 12: 46 New
      +2
      And nothing else comes to their mind, only old tales that no one else believes in the world. Obama's vocabulary is weak.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 13: 53 New
        0
        crisis in the innovation department)
        1. alexng
          alexng 15 June 2013 00: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          crisis in the innovation department)


          Most likely the crisis of the head and will overwhelm profanities.
  13. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 14 June 2013 08: 54 New
    +4
    funny author "The opposition in Syria is fragmented militarily and politically. The tone in it is set by" fierce jihadist elements. "The European jihad fighters, now operating there, can return home armed and trained - and new terrorist attacks will break out in the West." means - to hire, arm, train and send your own mercenaries - "terrorists" to a free country - this is normal. now that the country has withstood a 2-year war and began to smash these mercenaries and they began to scatter, the employer regained his sight and found that he himself could be slightly nailed - is it the country that defeated the mercenaries to blame? iron logic. fool
    1. OTTO
      OTTO 14 June 2013 09: 10 New
      +2
      Have you been expecting anything else from the west? There is no smell of logic in recent years ... a lot.
  14. faraon
    faraon 14 June 2013 09: 02 New
    16
    After reading the article, I had questions, and then the answers ripened. In general, all this is idle chatter, for the following reasons. plus the United States as a fighter for democracy. to carry out a ground operation (marines in Jordan) - well, and that the grouping of Russian ships in Syria. Winged missiles, again, the grouping of ships will not allow this operation. Closed sky, again, the presence of the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean Sea
    Summing up all the (+) and (-) Days of the opposition are numbered, defeat is a matter of time, the States need to admit that the partition plan (failed), but it needs to save her face, so she will deliver small arms to the rebels. And if Russia receives a mandate from the UN, generally there will be a complete failure of the states in the middle east
    1. zMouze
      zMouze 14 June 2013 09: 15 New
      +9
      Unfortunately, the position of our naval forces will not in any way affect the capabilities of US military operations ... Now our analysts will have to work out all the options for neutralizing such "aid" ... Small arms cannot help the bandits, but American special forces on the borders of Jordan, it is dangerous for Assad ...
      Let's hope that Assad knows what to do in such a situation, and of course, that our "powers that be" will finally have iron eggs, and they will be able to put the peddlers of crap in their place!
    2. Che
      Che 14 June 2013 19: 33 New
      +1
      What is your opinion about the peacekeepers in the Golan? Positive factor for Israel and Syria.
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 15 June 2013 00: 31 New
      0
      Quote: faraon
      Opposition days are numbered, rout is a matter of time, States need to recognize that partition plan (failed)

      American plan + mercenaries + arms supplies = aggression.
      Where the rest of the western world also saw the opposition?!?
  15. Dimitry
    Dimitry 14 June 2013 09: 05 New
    10
    The West feels that it is losing control of the situation, and Assad is mowing the bastard without blinking, but no matter how much they announce the supply of weapons, it will be very difficult to break the situation in their favor. The Syrian flywheel will grind this evil ............
    1. xan
      xan 14 June 2013 12: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Demetrius
      and Assad mows the bastard without blinking,

      It’s interesting to know how much our mowing costs
      1. Ishtan
        Ishtan 14 June 2013 13: 38 New
        +2
        And what the hell is the difference? If this evil is not stopped there, it will come to us, and we will have to mow it
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 15 June 2013 04: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: xan
        Quote: Demetrius
        and Assad mows the bastard without blinking,

        It’s interesting to know how much our mowing costs

        Yes, no matter how much it costs. Let’s surrender Syria, we’ll lose a lot more.
  16. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 14 June 2013 09: 09 New
    10
    On the site there was infa that the Turks detained militants with sarin. Why did our silent and not inflated like Americans this thing? Then, the Yusovites could not lie so impudently. My opinion is that Assad is extremely unfavorable for the use of WMD, combat effectiveness is not significant, and the resonance is not in favor of Syria
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 June 2013 09: 15 New
      10
      Why did our silent and not inflated like Americans this thing?

      Ours do not know how to inflate tantrums, which is generally good. Otherwise, we would be like the United States and companies.
      Then, the Yusovites could not lie so impudently.

      Where did you see something stopping the US from lying? This is already written in DNA among their politicians as a constant.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 10: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Wedmak
        Ours do not know how to inflate tantrums, which is generally good. Otherwise, we would be like the United States and companies.

        In general, it would not hurt to adopt the experience of the information war, "a lie repeated many times becomes true" Goebbels (C). Alas, such a Western society and Goebbels' tricks were just adopted by the United States, everything in the spirit of fascism.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 14 June 2013 11: 14 New
      +2
      Probably all that is needed will be presented at a conference in Geneva. There will be plenty of journalists and the whole world will know about it online. I remember even Russian journalists who transmitted some kind of footage to the UN - also silent.

      Probably the West, is trying to give the last step to the terrorists, and to dig up trump cards before the peace talks. Although he himself does not believe in it.
    3. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 15 June 2013 04: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Old Warrant Officer
      On the site there was infa that the Turks detained militants with sarin. Why did our silent and not inflated like Americans this thing? Then, the Yusovites could not lie so impudently. My opinion is that Assad is extremely unfavorable for the use of WMD, combat effectiveness is not significant, and the resonance is not in favor of Syria

      But how can we inflate? We do not have such opportunities to fool all progressive humanity ...
  17. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 14 June 2013 09: 18 New
    +7
    All that is good for the West is bad for Russia, and vice versa.
  18. Ivan79
    Ivan79 14 June 2013 09: 22 New
    10
    Quote: Old Warrant Officer
    On the site there was infa that the Turks detained militants with sarin. Why did our silent and not inflated like Americans this thing? Then, the Yusovites could not lie so impudently. My opinion is that Assad is extremely unfavorable for the use of WMD, combat effectiveness is not significant, and the resonance is not in favor of Syria

    Our journalists handed in videos to the UN, if I'm not mistaken. But those found the evidence
    not enough. And hushed up this situation. Which is not surprising. Puppets of the USA and NATO.
    1. Garik
      Garik 14 June 2013 13: 11 New
      -1
      It was inflated on RT ...
  19. bashmak
    bashmak 14 June 2013 09: 23 New
    +3
    For all their history, the Americans did not win a single war!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 June 2013 09: 27 New
      14
      Quote: bashmak
      For all their history, the Americans did not win a single war!


      They definitely won one war, so now we are not the USSR
      1. kobussubok
        kobussubok 18 June 2013 13: 09 New
        0
        Did not win! Otherwise, they would now have no problems with Syria.
    2. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 14 June 2013 09: 33 New
      +3
      It’s not necessary to fight by yourself, sometimes it’s more profitable for others to fight with your weapons in the name of your interests. There is a triple benefit: you do not lose people + profit from the sale of weapons + influence in the world. So the states act.
      How do we act? C-300 is not delivered, which reduces the possibility of Assad’s resistance to external invasion + we lose credibility in the world due to non-compliance with our contractual obligations (Syria, Iran) + we lose allies due to the pliability of our foreign policy.
      So compare ...
    3. Firebox
      Firebox 14 June 2013 09: 46 New
      +1
      So Japan threw off nuclear bombs on itself, and Iran itself was defeated, and other Middle Eastern countries in ruins are not without US interference?
      1. kostyan77708
        kostyan77708 14 June 2013 10: 23 New
        +5
        as far as I know, the khan already came to Yapam, and without the nuclear bombs they were already crushed by the Soviet troops
        1. Gato
          Gato 14 June 2013 11: 46 New
          +1
          Soviet troops threshed the Japanese land army on the continent, and the amers threw the Japanese fleet, which was considered the second most powerful after the American. The USSR in the Far East had practically nothing to oppose the Japanese fleet.
    4. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 June 2013 09: 47 New
      +2
      Well actually won. The only question is, can this be called a victory?
      1. Gato
        Gato 14 June 2013 11: 50 New
        +6
        By the way, one of the Amer politicians in the 90s said that America is still very sorry for the collapse of the USSR. It was an adversary who kept her in suspense and forced her to develop. Having lost it, America will begin to decay and decompose.
        What is now observed.
        1. kobussubok
          kobussubok 18 June 2013 13: 12 New
          0
          This is quite natural!
    5. Gato
      Gato 14 June 2013 11: 36 New
      +2
      For the sake of objectivity, it should be noted that the Americans just did not lose a single war. Unfortunately.
      They may object to me about Vietnam, but in this case, America itself won. The USSR also left Afghanistan, but who would say that he lost this war ?!
      America won the war with Mexico, chopping off Texas and California, then in the war with Spain.
      In the First and Second World America, not only among the winners, but dramatically enhances its influence, ALL of its allies are its own debtors. If anyone does not know, the USSR paid a penny for American deliveries on Lend-Lease, payments continued until the 60s.
      Then there were Korea, Vietnam, etc.
      I don’t even want to remember about the Cold War.
  20. aviator_IAS
    aviator_IAS 14 June 2013 09: 28 New
    +1
    “Russia's refusal to fulfill its obligations under the contract with Tehran is a signal that the Putin regime will not greatly grieve if someone destroys Iran’s nuclear weapons production facilities. Russia is not interested in helping the fanatical regime deploy nuclear weapons on its southern flank. ”


    Somehow this does not at all fit with the ongoing construction of a nuclear power plant in Bushehr. It seems that in July they should start the third power unit. It seems Francois Hisbourg wishful thinking.
  21. PValery53
    PValery53 14 June 2013 09: 28 New
    +1
    Our firmness and consistency inspires respect for us in the enemy, and even their media cannot refuse this. Probably, while our line is right.
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 June 2013 09: 33 New
    12
    I especially liked about "Washington's spending on state building in Iraq and Afghanistan," I happened to be in Iraq, I did not see the state there. Well, about the arms race, there is an ancient rule that has been in effect since the birth of mankind and it says: "If your country is ruled by Juda Gorbachev, then he can be hung up on Star Wars and SDI, he will ruin the country in horror and run away to advertise diapers to Germany, but if the country is headed not by a cowardly hamster, but by a thinking person a little bit will laugh at you and send you to x ... ".
  23. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 June 2013 09: 36 New
    +6
    We’ll wind up the amers tail and no oceans and a bunch of dough will save them!
  24. T-73
    T-73 14 June 2013 09: 39 New
    14
    Seem to have begun. But can Abama be reminded that he is a Nobel Peace Prize winner? The cynicism of some and the stupidity of others are already beyond the bounds of good and evil. Assad hold on!
  25. Opera
    Opera 14 June 2013 09: 52 New
    +3
    I don’t even want to yap at Russia !!! Well, in the current case, Russia has only one way, I can’t do it even if I don’t want to!
    There are enough levers for this. Only the information on S-300 shipments to Syria makes some people not yelp but squeal ... Here is another powerful guy from Israel to Russia ...
  26. Micex
    Micex 14 June 2013 09: 53 New
    +5
    Russian ships closed access to NATO ships for attack from the sea and cargo delivery. The possible presence of S-300 + missiles on the ships of the Russian Federation warn against an air attack from Turkey, while walking from the north of Turkey is still possible. At the same time, there is a fire in Turkey, and now the Turkish government will think 10 times before climbing into Syria and helping the militants. The negotiations between Russia and Israel turned Israel out of the game. The unstable north of Iraq and the lack of loyalty of the local population to the United States and Turkey do not allow actions from the north-eastern and eastern directions of Syria. The only remaining direction for the offensive and supplies is the south of Syria from Jordan and partly the Turkish border. The Americans in this party were driven into such a situation that only 2 moves remained - to deliver weapons to the militants (which will not be easy) or an attack on Syria from the side of Jordan. I think that the amers will make a mistake and attack Syria from the south, and this will be a strategic mistake, as they will be deprived of support from the sea. The attack will be instant with the goal of capturing Assad (just a stone's throw from Damascus). But this will not happen, as it is clear that they were left only one door, and they are already waiting for them.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 June 2013 10: 10 New
      -1
      Russian ships closed access to NATO ships for attack from the sea and cargo delivery.

      Which ships? BDK closed access to NATO ships? Yes, do not tell.
      I think that the amers will make a mistake and attack Syria from the south, and this will be a strategic mistake, as they will be deprived of support from the sea. The attack will be instant with the goal of capturing Assad (just a stone's throw from Damascus). But this will not happen, as it is clear that they were left only one door, and they are already waiting for them.

      And here you are right, the amers themselves will not climb into Syria. Instead of them, their blanks will climb.
      1. Micex
        Micex 14 June 2013 10: 16 New
        +3
        Of course, our ships blocked access to NATO ships. Remember 200-300 paratroopers who sent all the funny letters to the NATO army in Kosovo when they captured the airfield in Pristina. Nobody wants to attack the Russians, since this is a declaration of war. Russian ships will simply block the path, and that’s all - who will attack them ???
        1. maxcor1974
          maxcor1974 14 June 2013 10: 18 New
          +1
          And remember how then the same paratroopers threw our political leadership, that is, what was the long-term effect? No.
          So now, we need political will, but it is not clear whether we have it?
          1. Micex
            Micex 14 June 2013 10: 22 New
            +3
            Leadership now, thank God, is different. It is evident from the actions that Syria will not be given up just like that.
            1. maxcor1974
              maxcor1974 14 June 2013 10: 26 New
              +1
              It will be visible after C-300 is in Syria, then this will be an action, but for now only words (support).
              1. Micex
                Micex 14 June 2013 10: 32 New
                +3
                How fundamentally 4 sets of S-300 will affect the situation in the event of a full-blown conflict on all sides ??? Nothing. The Russian Federation consistently turns off the parties involved in the conflict - Turkey left, Israel left, European countries left (there was only yapping and supply of weapons) In the game, only the USA and the militants temporarily surrendered all the excess.
                1. maxcor1974
                  maxcor1974 14 June 2013 10: 39 New
                  +3
                  The 4 kit is an 144 combat missile, with a probability of hitting a target of more than 85%. Simple arithmetic, it’s more than 100 aircraft, even half of them will be drones, but the second half are controlled aircraft with highly qualified pilots at the controls. Few will take such a risk.
                  PS of course, calculations are purely hypothetical.
                  1. Micex
                    Micex 14 June 2013 10: 43 New
                    0
                    There are means of suppressing such complexes - i.e. first, attack aircraft fly there, lose a dozen planes, and only then the rest of the planes fly to bomb the territory. Such actions mean a declaration of war, be it Turkey, Israel or the United States. No one has declared war on Syria .. yet.
                2. RA77
                  RA77 14 June 2013 11: 07 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Micex
                  The Russian Federation consistently turns off the parties involved in the conflict - Turkey left, Israel left, European countries left (there was only yapping and supply of weapons) In the game, only the USA and the militants temporarily surrendered all the excess.

                  How the Russian Federation was able to turn off Turkey? Just don’t say that the unrest there is the work of the Russian special services. Chasing full.
                  Israel, in general, has not gone anywhere either. And the malice * of tea Europe is still in the game (UK, France). Only Germans are pleased. (A. Merkel categorically refused to supply weapons to the Syrian bandits)
                  1. Micex
                    Micex 14 June 2013 12: 34 New
                    +1
                    I did not say a word about the riots. Israel bombed Syria? and now? Turkey, because of the unrest, is now not up to Syria, plus its planes ceased to violate the border after their flyer crashed, and earlier it threatened Assad with intervention. And now what is heard? The Europeans were immediately turned off, since their troops can only be deployed by air.
                    I am not saying that the countries you have designated do not have interests there. But they are practically excluded from the game, and have minor leverage. More specifically, the Libyan outcome here can only be realized from the Jordanian border, where amers are now sitting. All - the remaining players are removed from the field.
                    1. RA77
                      RA77 14 June 2013 13: 17 New
                      +1
                      Well, I don’t know, I don’t know ... In my opinion, Israel is just waiting for something, or there is no real need for delivering strikes. But I do not think that they were stopped by the actions that the Russian Federation has taken to date.
                      And the Turks .. I just read on the right: The Turkish army crossed the Syrian border. Yes, and Erdogan made concessions to the protesters, he wants to see everything settle down sharply and focus again on Syria.
                      For the rest I will not say anything.
                      1. Micex
                        Micex 14 June 2013 13: 44 New
                        0
                        I don’t know either, but I make an assumption. It seems to me that these comrades are turned off the game, and everything goes into the final phase.
                    2. urus12
                      urus12 14 June 2013 19: 01 New
                      0
                      The calm before the storm !!!
          2. RA77
            RA77 14 June 2013 11: 02 New
            0
            And how did it throw them? The paratroopers fulfilled their task and expected the arrival of the main forces, but either Bulgaria or Romania, by order from the west, forbade the passage of Russian transport workers over their territory.
            1. poquello
              poquello 14 June 2013 21: 14 New
              +1
              "And how did it throw them? The paratroopers completed their task and were waiting for the arrival of the main forces, but either Bulgaria or Romania, at the behest from the west, banned overflight over their territory."
              "to Russian transport workers."

              who miraculously flew to Pristina, from where they were recalled.
      2. kostyan77708
        kostyan77708 14 June 2013 10: 28 New
        +1
        there are 2 more BOD, but they should be reckoned with!
        1. Micex
          Micex 14 June 2013 10: 34 New
          +1
          there are still submarines swimming, don’t go to the grandmother.
          1. sergey72
            sergey72 14 June 2013 10: 46 New
            +1
            amers in the Mediterranean already have two Ohio with tomahawks on board and an MP tactical group
            1. Micex
              Micex 14 June 2013 10: 48 New
              0
              everything is right - the action (from the Russian Federation) is opposed (from the NATO side)
      3. zvereok
        zvereok 14 June 2013 11: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Wedmak
        Which ships? BDK closed access to NATO ships? Yes, do not tell.


        Syria sold quite a defensive battery with anti-ship missiles.
    2. Dimy4
      Dimy4 14 June 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      The groups are building up their strengths and are waiting for the first ones to butt. But reluctantly seriously butting anyone.
    3. kobussubok
      kobussubok 18 June 2013 13: 19 New
      0
      Well done! You think well !!! And judging by the fact that the amers have been marking the doorstep for a long time, they think the same way, but they can do nothing! They will have to get into a mousetrap, because how to leave is to completely lose your face in the international arena!
  27. albanec
    albanec 14 June 2013 09: 55 New
    +3
    US should “aggressively” fund basic research on old DARPA scenarios
    As I understand it, not all Americans are aware of the budget sequestration and that even the Pentagon is forced to send 600 tons of employees on unpaid vacations winked
  28. 128mgb
    128mgb 14 June 2013 10: 08 New
    +6
    Well then ,,, Empire of Goodness ,, made its move declaring its desire to arm the cannibals openly. And cannibals in the truest sense of the word. Now the move is for Russia.
    1. Gato
      Gato 14 June 2013 11: 57 New
      +3
      So Russia must curl its readiness to openly disarm the cannibals to a state incompatible with life.
      1. T-73
        T-73 15 June 2013 01: 36 New
        0
        It is impossible. It is worth saying so and 3-5 years of diplomatic results may not become. Golan can serve as a bridgehead, no more.
  29. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 10: 15 New
    +2
    The Obama administration claims to have received incontrovertible evidence that government forces still used chemical weapons against the militants. But for some reason they were not presented to the public.

    And what is there to present? source - OBS (one frame said).
  30. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 10: 22 New
    +1
    I propose to organize a tour for the American inhabitants on the countries of the new democracies (well, those where their democracies have already been done). It seems to me that after visiting the 2nd country, the guides will be free. And no one will complain about the quality of service ...
  31. Crash
    Crash 14 June 2013 10: 23 New
    -7
    Putin will throw Assad anyway. It's unavoidable. Do you think the West will just let it write to itself, although all these media are the property of billionaires
    1. Batkamahno
      Batkamahno 14 June 2013 10: 38 New
      +1
      What's the point? What is the reason to give the Americans a beautiful leave ?. Assad has little to decide. One person does not solve anything. The country is set to exit this Opa. And here is a matter of time.
    2. xan
      xan 14 June 2013 12: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Crash
      Putin will throw Assad anyway. It's unavoidable.

      Putin will not surrender Assad under any circumstances. And no nishtyaki from the West, if Russia is looking forward, are not needed here - with a mustache themselves.
      In the worst case for Assad, he will live in Russia.
  32. Russ69
    Russ69 14 June 2013 10: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: retired
    The Obama administration claims to have received incontrovertible evidence that government forces still used chemical weapons against the militants. But for some reason they were not presented to the public.

    I hope that ours will also remove any restrictions on the supply of weapons. Syria, well, you can’t give it away. Defend it, then it will be a victory for Russia, which will give a bunch of political advantages.
  33. Batkamahno
    Batkamahno 14 June 2013 10: 32 New
    +5
    Good day, members of the forum. And what's the real difference, America said that it would supply weapons or not. They supplied it before. In my opinion, this is a good mine for a bad game. If America didn’t say anything, it would be strange. Now Obama has to play Hamlet. Much depends on his creative talents. And I think soon we will hear that the French are to blame for everything, who deceived the whole world by saying about chemical weapons, and Assad, albeit bad, but WE LOVE HIM)))))
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 14 June 2013 11: 04 New
      +2
      Significant amounts of VET and MANPADS, communications equipment and electronic warfare systems can affect the situation not in Assad’s favor
      1. Batkamahno
        Batkamahno 14 June 2013 13: 03 New
        -2
        1) all this still needs to be dragged across the border, and there are not so many ways left.
        2) MANPADS on the Israeli border unnecessary
        3) EW tools are not AK 47 - there are a few brains needed)))
        4) Yes, and indeed a lot of money to spend on cornered, PIT.
        Here are 16 m rust and ammo- Yes, even pour in, the benefit of Qatar pays.
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 14 June 2013 15: 05 New
          +1
          We are talking about Jordan, where the front units of the US Marine Corps have recently arrived. To summarize: the detachment is in place, and in addition to the REB'PTO and MANPADS, those who can use it will arrive. Remember Libya!
          1. Batkamahno
            Batkamahno 14 June 2013 17: 30 New
            0
            the problem is that those who know how to use will not get into Syria without full control from the air. and zonally it is problematic and inefficient to do
            1. sergey72
              sergey72 14 June 2013 17: 53 New
              0
              And what about the Patriot and the F-16?
      2. poquello
        poquello 14 June 2013 21: 24 New
        +2
        "Anti-tank missile systems and MANPADS on a large scale, communications equipment and electronic warfare are capable of influencing the situation not in favor of Assad"

        This is unlikely, the master’s weapons are over - the fools are fighting for them.
  34. deman73
    deman73 14 June 2013 10: 38 New
    0
    I don’t give a damn what Amers said there predicted the time will come in Washington raise our flag soldier
  35. sergey72
    sergey72 14 June 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    THEY ARE READY TO START. WE ARE NOT ... NOTHING ANYTHING. WITHOUT DIRECT PRESENCE OF THE RF Armed Forces WILL NOT SUPPORT THEM
  36. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 14 June 2013 10: 52 New
    +1
    Goldman forgets that Reagan was an actor, and the Soviet secretary general, Brezhnev, a deep, marasmic old man, and in 1981, such a performance was held on “bravo” and gathered a full house. Now is another time. Moreover, Obama promised to be flexible, and not Putin at all.
    from the Don.
    2013. Another, BLOODY, performance. Again a full house! And I really want us to shout: BRAVO, PUTIN !!!:
  37. cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 14 June 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    Many thanks to Oleg, for, as always, a wonderful review, and, most importantly, thanks to him, we got the opportunity to get acquainted with the work of such funny personalities as François Heissbourg and David Goldman. And, it seems that we have already got used to the "brain tricks" of Western "experts" on geopolitics and on the "Russian question", but no, they do not cease, my dears, to amaze both with their ability to "think logically" and the ability to "analyze", and your vision and perception of the political processes taking place in the world!
    David Goldman, author of How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam Will Die, too)

    There are very strong suspicions that "civilizations will die" and "Islam will also die", and only Goldman will remain, for Goldmans are eternal, like human stupidity is eternal ... And, Goldman, this is a vivid confirmation ...
    Next, the journalist accuses Obama of lack of common sense

    And, here is the same journalist (unlike Obama!), This very "common sense", a clear excess! Here you have a recipe for how to divide Syria (only according to the Yugoslav scenario, the heart will calm down!), And advice to Erdogan "be patient and reconcile" and the breadth of nature, take Ukraine so be it (from the lord's shoulder! We don't need it, they the birth rate is bad there!)
    Well, the passage that “the political situation does not favor such an approach”, and yet “this does not change the fact that this is exactly what should be done,” is simply a masterpiece! ... And if you add to such kind of goldman, forever injured McCain, we can only sympathize with our pale-faced partners and sincerely regret them! laughing
  38. Batkamahno
    Batkamahno 14 June 2013 10: 58 New
    0
    In general, America has other interests in Syria. They have already removed their jackpot. Hordes of jihadists from Libya, Syria, Iraq, Avgan, and so on Assad killed. So to speak, let off steam. Pig to Europe in the form of terrorists with a return ticket tossed. Oil-money from Qatar was removed (they bought weapons) Handsome men in one word)))) It's time to dump Kinuv Europe beautifully
    1. xan
      xan 14 June 2013 12: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: BatkaMahno
      Handsome in one word)))) It's time to knock over Kinuv Europe beautifully

      But what about image losses?
      1. Batkamahno
        Batkamahno 14 June 2013 12: 41 New
        +2
        but they don’t care? Everything is in the homna, and they will again be in chocolate if they come out beautifully. The propagandists will decide who is right and who is to blame. Maybe Hollywood will make a couple of films about the heroes of the Americans who helped the poor separatists. (they even made a heroic battle from Vietnam) and there they were, oh how they lost their Image. Perhaps not so, this is an assumption. And the script of the film will be as follows: The zombie army, led by Assad, enslaves the young democrats and those with a slingshot at the ready should eat the hearts of evil zombies (vampires can be), depending on what the scriptwriters smoke. And the end of the 8-hour directorial version is the explosions of warehouses with a mutogen, cowards with an American flag on a stick and a dying (Negro) African-Syrian
  39. olviko
    olviko 14 June 2013 11: 04 New
    12
    Silenting about the true interests of the West in Syria, Goldman is trying to hang us all on the ears. And these interests are selfish. As grandfather Lenin said, there is no crime that a bourgeois would not have committed for 300% of his profit. Let's estimate what happens if Assad falls: 1) Qatar will stretch its gas pipe to Europe - falling gas prices, Russia has multibillion losses, The Nord Stream will pay off for 100 years. Europe is naturally covered in chocolate, all the losses to Russia, due to gas, are profit for Europe. 2) After Syria, all the scumbags who gained combat experience may well, through Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan, end up in the North Caucasus. In this war, we will have to pay not only with money, but also with blood. 3) Syria, as our last ally in the Middle East, will be lost, we can forget about Tartus and the Mediterranean squadron. Besides, this country, though not large, but a stable buyer of Russian weapons. 5) Several thousand Russian citizens live in Syria, mainly women and their children. Like any self-respecting country, Russia will have to resolve the issue of protecting its citizens, including with the help of the armed forces. 6) In the coastal zone of Syria, rich oil fields were discovered, in one of his recent speeches, Assad promised the participation of the Russian company in the development and operation of the field. The following was literally announced:
    / that “Syria will not forget friends”, and that the license to extract oil and gas will be “granted to the Russian company” If the heart-bearers win, it is clear that all this will go to the West. I don’t say anymore about Russia's image losses. If you do not take into account the moral side of things, and to calculate only material and financial losses, they will be enormous for Russia. And those who say are wrong: what is Syria, a trifle, nonsense, why do we need it. But it turns out that it’s not nonsense, but a country in which, today, our future is also being decided to some extent. Honestly, considering all of the above, Russia would not be in the loser even if it would supply Syria with weapons for free, at least until the end of hostilities and Assad's complete victory
  40. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 11: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: olviko
    As grandfather Lenin said, there is no crime that a bourgeois would not have committed for 300% of his profit

    Of course, I apologize, but didn’t Marx say this?
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 14 June 2013 11: 33 New
      +4
      Not Marx. This is Dunning said an English economist in the second half of the 19th century
  41. Mergenchi
    Mergenchi 14 June 2013 11: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: olviko
    1) Qatar will stretch its gas pipe to Europe - falling gas prices, Russia will have billions of losses, Nord Stream alone will pay off for 100 years. Europe is naturally chocolate, all the losses to Russia, for gas, for Europe - profit


    In principle, only this point is enough to understand why the Europeans are so partial to Syria. I think Iran and China all the same, Assad would have been helped otherwise. The entire industrial North of Syria has covered itself with a copper basin for a long time.
  42. Stock captain
    Stock captain 14 June 2013 11: 28 New
    +3
    "The United States must make it clear that there are cultural threads and a blood connection between the Poles and the Czechs on the one hand, and the American people on the other, and we will stand for them at all costs."
    WHAT'S THIS!!!
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 14 June 2013 11: 39 New
      +2
      Common American practice. Having taken key positions in the right region, spoiling opponents in borsch and slippers to rivals
    2. stariy
      stariy 14 June 2013 22: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Captain of the Reserve
      WHAT'S THIS!!!

      However, tympirature is high, nada drink medicine.
  43. Fin
    Fin 14 June 2013 11: 29 New
    +6
    Reading translations from Western publications, I am more and more surprised by the "logic" of the authors. They take public information from the media and begin to portray a serious political investigation without leaving their offices. I especially liked the "blood connection" of the Polish, Czech and American peoples. And also the friendship between Russia and Hezbollah, and the fact that all terrorists in Syria feed on the hands of the West - he did not notice. The plan for resolving the Syrian issue is unique. The level of development of the "authors" (researchers) is impressive. Such an article would not even be published by a regional newspaper, but here is the New York Time.
  44. shark
    shark 14 June 2013 12: 25 New
    +3
    Damn it, when the Lord punishes these presumptuous hypocrites, these non-humans who are ready to trample entire nations into the mud for the sake of the benefits of their civilization!
    American weapons will go to the bandits. This is bad. It changes the whole alignment of forces. Assad is simply stealing a close and well-deserved victory. There is certainly hope. Vietnam comes to mind. Which, being almost in the Middle Ages, was able to kick America's ass. But a lot depends on Russia. If We will continue to build up aid to Syria, support it and not throw it off to the "civilized" Europeans, then there are chances to otbitsya.Glavnoe understand -Syria is fighting for the future of Russia too!
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 14 June 2013 12: 36 New
      0
      Behind Vietnam was the socialist USSR, not the current Russia. According to the worst-case scenario, there will be something between Libya and Iraq. But assistance is still being provided, and not only in the area of ​​armaments.
  45. sergey72
    sergey72 14 June 2013 12: 44 New
    +3
    On weapons: The latest news from Syria shows not only Chinese helmets, but also Belarusian collimators and Russian AK-103, which were not officially delivered there.
  46. barila
    barila 14 June 2013 12: 49 New
    0
    "The United States must make it clear that there are cultural threads and a blood connection between the Poles and the Czechs on the one hand, and the American people on the other, and we will stand for them at all costs."
    WHAT'S THIS!!!

    make it clear that they, too BLUE and they will stand on crusts until someone dawns on them !!!
  47. Harleone
    Harleone 14 June 2013 14: 36 New
    0
    Well, yes, the West will now take and begin the intervention. Then we'll see who has a fiasco there.
    1. Tektor
      Tektor 14 June 2013 16: 05 New
      0
      Well, this is just what we are waiting for: we really want to warn them by detonating an underwater nuclear mine on the approaches, but so that they are not too battered (about 1 kt - behind the eyes) ... But Israel "washed away" a little ... I think the impulse is here it will also lead to the filing of thousands of reports with requests to dismiss from the armies of the NATA countries with filing a lawsuit to compensate for the moral shock. (In Western armies, a subordinate may refuse to obey the commander's order if he considers it dangerous to his health - no joke!).
      1. Harleone
        Harleone 14 June 2013 16: 11 New
        0
        And about a nuclear mine a joke? In this world, the monopoly on the use of force is only among Americans and those close to them. We are immediately thrown rotten eggs (and this is in the best case). In the event of their military intervention, we have nothing to answer.
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 14 June 2013 16: 42 New
          0
          So onet think so (about the monopoly of power). Therefore, without a low-explosive nuclear mine (so that they have a reason to convince their electorate afterwards that this is a simple but very powerful bomb), there is no way to do it. And we will warn: further it will be very painful.
        2. poquello
          poquello 14 June 2013 21: 36 New
          +1
          "In the event of their military intervention, we have nothing to answer."

          Are you kidding?
          1. Harleone
            Harleone 15 June 2013 00: 05 New
            0
            What did we answer when they took Iraq and Libya? They vetoed and watched the East move into their zone of influence.
            1. poquello
              poquello 15 June 2013 01: 22 New
              +1
              Which veto? Bear disease.
              Your question is double-headed. We will answer whether Putin knows better or not, and the people will appreciate it. And there is something to answer, you can choose options.
  48. Tektor
    Tektor 14 June 2013 15: 59 New
    +2
    How to explain Russia's support for the "Assad regime"?
    The Parisian François Hisbourg is as dumb as a cork and obviously blind. To be completely unaware of anything, so as not to discern the presence of the Russian Navy base, or rather the point of material and technical supply, you understand, in Syria ... This point was not in the other listed countries. Since the West did not give a damn about such a "log", then I can only congratulate them: welcome to the new world, a world where the presence of a military base is now irrelevant when deciding on a "physical observation" of the country. Although not quite so: the presence of a NATO country base will now imply the possibility of having nuclear weapons on it, and, therefore, will be an excuse for using nuclear weapons for "physical observation". Well, if the soldiers do not have time to escape from the base before that, then they themselves are to blame: they could have moved their asses as quickly as possible.
  49. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 14 June 2013 16: 33 New
    +3
    Ordered articles and paid authors. Continued zombies of the western man in the street. Nothing new. You could not put these excerpts here.
    1. Gato
      Gato 14 June 2013 16: 46 New
      +2
      Yes, but they must be branded with shame.
  50. APASUS
    APASUS 14 June 2013 19: 24 New
    +4
    There is a right side in Syria, and a wrong one. Russia now supports the wrong. But when she begins to collaborate with the West,

    The last time we collaborated with the West, or rather, thanks to Yeltsin, we fell under it. The country almost died out! And the famous Perestroika ended in disruption in the economy and a collapse in the heads of the population.
    Oh, his nah ... such a friendship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. poquello
      poquello 14 June 2013 23: 00 New
      +2
      It is useful to make friends, we will be friends on our terms.