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Iranian Foreign Ministry: Tehran and Moscow are discussing the supply of air defense "Thor" instead of C-300

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Iranian Foreign Ministry: Tehran and Moscow are discussing the supply of air defense "Thor" instead of C-300



Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Hussein Amir Abdollahiyan said Tuesday that Tehran had been negotiating with Moscow for three months to supply Thor air defense systems instead of C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems.

"Our countries have good defense cooperation ... I am not very aware of this topic, but as far as I know from my colleagues who are engaged in defense, negotiations with Moscow on the possible replacement of the C-300 air defense system with the Thor system took place less three months ago, "he said, reports RIA"News».

Abdollahiyan added that Tehran did not make a final decision on whether it would insist on compensation for the refusal of C-300 air defense missile systems in the amount of 3 billion dollars.

“We are still discussing this in Iran for a more constructive solution to this problem,” he said.

According to the Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister, now discussions are continuing in Tehran in order to effectively address this issue.

On the eve of the Iranian ambassador in Moscow, Seyed Mahmoud Reza Sajjadi said that Thor is not suitable for the country's defense system developed by Tehran.

“As for the Thor system, which was proposed to us, we developed a special system to protect our country, and in this system, the proposed Thor system could not perform the C-300 functions,” he said.

Iran filed a lawsuit for 4 billion dollars in the International Court of Arbitration of Geneva against the Russian company Rosoboronexport in the case of canceling the contract for the supply of C-300 systems. According to media reports, Tehran is ready to withdraw the claim for the supply of C-300, if Russia implements this contract.

In August last year, a source in the presidential administration of Russia announced that, subject to Iran’s refusal to withdraw the lawsuit against Russia for canceling the agreement on the supply of C-300 anti-aircraft systems, Moscow could deprive Tehran of support in the nuclear issue.

The head of Russian Technologies, Sergey Chemezov, said last week that Russia has little chance of winning a lawsuit on a lawsuit filed by Iran, which was filed after Moscow’s refusal to supply C-300 missile defense systems. Chemezov noted that Russia is trying "to reach an agreement with the Iranian side to sign an amicable agreement, but so far to no avail."

Meanwhile, a source at the Iranian embassy in Moscow said that the authorities of his country are not aware of Russia's attempts to conclude a settlement agreement with Tehran regarding a lawsuit.

On Monday, the Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to Russia, Seyed Mahmoud Reza Sajjadi, said that Tehran intends to resolve the issue of C-300 through negotiations.
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  1. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 12 June 2013 08: 19 New
    22
    I can't understand what stops Russia from selling the S-300 to Iran ?! Some kind of "fall in the eyes of ordinary Americans" ?!
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 12 June 2013 08: 24 New
      +9
      Not so simple in this world. Someone's lobby does not allow this to be done.
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 12 June 2013 08: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Someone's lobby does not allow this to be done.

        American, if I am unmistakable at the UN.
        1. YARY
          YARY 12 June 2013 09: 55 New
          +4
          Good day Maxim.
          Not at the UNE, but in our own home!
          There are no, that is, absolutely no obstacles to the execution of the order in either case. International law allows.
          But the fact that all sorts of brakes and evasions "turned on" - this speaks of the influence from outside. Weak Russia as a state! A strong power says “I do it as I need it!” Every little thing barks, or dies or obeys.
        2. the polar
          the polar 12 June 2013 11: 49 New
          +8
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          Someone's lobby does not allow this to be done.

          American, if I am unmistakable at the UN.

          Jewish, in the Kremlin
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 12 June 2013 09: 02 New
        +9
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Not so simple in this world. Someone's lobby does not allow this to be done.

        And what can I think, the Israeli lobby, headed by Dvorkovich.
        1. eretik
          eretik 12 June 2013 09: 25 New
          +4
          Well, let this lobby pay compensation and pay us for one contract failure.
          PS I think it is necessary to begin supplying Iran with the S-300, as soon as the gang begins to officially supply weapons to mercenaries in Syria.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 12 June 2013 10: 30 New
          -2
          Quote: valokordin
          And what can I think, the Israeli lobby, headed by Dvorkovich.

          I think ours want to beg some sort of discount from the Americans.
      3. Arberes
        Arberes 12 June 2013 11: 03 New
        +6
        Dear colleagues and friends, I apologize for my arrogance, but I would like to present YOU the results of a mini-poll - I conducted yesterday!
        His theme was about whether we need to put IRAN S-300 or not?
        In total, 36 people voted for this moment (mine - was not taken into account)
        For deliveries 23 (two delivered + by mistake, well, mine -)
        Against delivery 16.
        From this we can conclude that most of those present here want to see IRAN strong and independent of the West and consider it to be at least a friendly state to us !!!
        Thank you all! hi
        1. Jin
          Jin 12 June 2013 15: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Arberes
          Thank you all!


          My to you! hi don't forget to switch indexing + and -. Thank you for the extraordinary "reconnaissance in force", in my opinion, even very much! good
        2. Arkan
          Arkan 13 June 2013 01: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Arberes
          Against delivery 16.

          And I thought there would be much more cartoons. smile
      4. Siberian German
        Siberian German 12 June 2013 12: 56 New
        +2
        to become Stalin’s grandfather for a couple of days - lose the lawsuit and expose the damage to the little bear Dimon
    2. elmi
      elmi 12 June 2013 09: 32 New
      12
      Quote: Ram Chandra
      I can't understand what stops Russia from selling the S-300 to Iran ?! Some kind of "fall in the eyes of ordinary Americans" ?!

      And what is not clear if until now Syria has not delivered C-300, but only promise, then definitely - the weakness of the government. Under the USSR, they were not even afraid of placing nuclear weapons in Cuba.
      1. Jin
        Jin 12 June 2013 10: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: elmi
        And what is not clear if until now Syria has not delivered C-300, but only promise, then definitely - the weakness of the government. Under the USSR, they were not even afraid of placing nuclear weapons in Cuba.


        Hello everyone, colleagues! It seems to me that Moscow is deliberately pulling the "cat by the tail". According to the principle: Waiting for death is worse than death itself. This is a kind of "leverage" to the west. After all, if the fact has come true and the S-300 are delivered to Iran, then that's it, a bit card. And with the current misunderstanding, we can calmly show * uh to the "world community", like, well, come on, and then we S-300 to Iran. Maybe this cools the hotheads of the "democrats" better than the S-300 themselves in Iran. the same story with Syria ... I don’t want to say that this is correct, but in my opinion this is the idea.
    3. PN
      PN 12 June 2013 10: 11 New
      +3
      In my opinion, the reason is Iran’s appetite for the Caspian. Perhaps in the near future a sizable division of the Caspian deposits will begin and strong neighbors here will be completely out of the court.
      1. Jin
        Jin 12 June 2013 10: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: PN
        In my opinion, the reason is Iran’s appetite for the Caspian. Perhaps in the near future a sizable division of the Caspian deposits will begin and strong neighbors here will be completely out of the court.


        I do not think that if the S-300 is delivered to Iran, then this scenario will not be provided for. Moreover, Iran is unlikely to be glad to be between a rock and a hard place, that is, Russia-Nata. Our strong trump card in the Caspian is military assistance to Iran. Bite the hand of the giver? Well, not very smart, at least IMHO
    4. avt
      avt 12 June 2013 10: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Ram Chandra
      I can’t understand what is stopping Russia from selling s-300s to Iran ?!

      Incorrect formulation of the question. Not what and who.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 12 June 2013 12: 32 New
      +3
      But this is still news, you can bring it separately.

      Outer Space Observation Center Opens In Iran

      clickable photo


      Fars News - The President of Iran called the opening of the country's first Comprehensive Space Observation Center "another step towards space exploration."

      Mahmoud Ahmadi-nejad on Sunday at the opening ceremony of the Space Observation Center in Dilijan, in the central part of Iran, referring to the country's achievements in the space sphere, designated the opening of this object as an important step towards a more complete use of space. Noting that in order to have influence in the world, it is always necessary to expand the boundaries of science, he added that the Iranian people are step by step approaching the full exploration of outer space. The Iranian President noted: "All the equipment in the Space Observation Center was created by Iranian specialists, and Iran is now included in a limited number of countries that have the ability to track space satellites and objects."







      A source: http://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/
    6. rks5317
      rks5317 13 June 2013 15: 23 New
      0
      When there will be RUSSIAN in the Kremlin and the Government House (not a believer, see YouTube on Putin’s historical homeland) -Then there won’t be such misunderstandings-RUSSIANs never betrayed their allies (remember the wars in Indochina. Kubu, etc., etc.) - now THEY are a big world family (one friend from Washington called. Another from Tel Aviv flew in. The third from London) ... And together they threatened to block HIM's status. Located abroad, the casket just opens — look for someone who is profitable. ..
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 13 June 2013 16: 12 New
        0
        Quote: rks5317
        EMU threatened to block his condition. Located abroad, the casket just opens, look for that. Who benefits ...

        Yes Yes .
        Former gebist with experience working over the hill, placed theft of money on transparent accounts!
        Expected suicide pandemic of former professors of GDP! Shame on such a student!
        Schaz, I’ll cry out of pity for the wretched!
        A person who has managed to stay in the chair of the President of Russia and has managed to enter orbit a second time cannot have a low level of intelligence.
        Milsoudar leave your shallow fabrications to the future for yourself!
        Presidential Level

        This is not a trifle for you to rub in your pockets!
        There are completely different values!
        This is for the inhabitants of your type

        The main thing is piastres, piastres!
  2. Edward72
    Edward72 12 June 2013 08: 21 New
    +5
    Yes, send everyone, and put on the contract
  3. Lavrik
    Lavrik 12 June 2013 08: 24 New
    +6
    Having said "A" to Syria, we must also now say "B" to Iran. Syria is the first line of defense of the Russian Federation against extremists in the Middle East, Iran is the second.
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 12 June 2013 08: 39 New
    +5
    Well, about Iran, I assume only the following options:
    1. Sometime such a concession was suggested to NeDimon that even the current leadership of Russia does not want to lose this mortar.
    2. Russia is afraid to supply the best air defense system in the world to a country with which Russia has a lot of graters across the Caspian, competition in terms of gas and oil supplies, as well as to a country that may have a "non-peaceful atom" in store.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 12 June 2013 08: 54 New
      11
      Quote: Karavan
      Russia is afraid to supply the world's best air defense to a country with which Russia has a lot of graters across the Caspian Sea, competition in terms of gas and oil supplies, as well as to a country that may have a "non-peaceful atom" in store.

      - the funny thing is - I read the report of the Amer private service yesterday, I don’t remember the name, the retired CIA officers work there. It is noticed that the official bodies of America noticeably listen to the conclusions of this private service.
      So there they made the conclusion: "Well, since the Russians are putting S-300s to the Syrians and refuse to supply them to the Iranians, this is a signal from the Kremlin - do not touch Syria and you can drive Iran into the Stone Age, Russia will only be glad! Let's do this - we will leave Syria in we'll bomb Iran in peace! " laughing laughing
      Here I am sitting and wondering - is there any truth in this conclusion? If so, with what fright? Shiite Iran is a very good shield and an obstacle for the penetration of Sunni terrorists into Russia and to us in Kazakhstan. It is foolish to give signals that are misunderstood in America laughing Is it real - are Russian politicians so fixated on the state of their faces? Like, give in to Iran - will we lose face? Why? Kosyakanuli - you need to recognize and deliver, the loss of face has nothing to do with it! am
      1. Jin
        Jin 12 June 2013 10: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: aksakal
        "Well, since the Russians are installing S-300s to the Syrians and refuse to supply them to the Iranians, this is a signal from the Kremlin - do not touch Syria and you can drive Iran into the Stone Age, Russia will only be glad! Let's do it - let's leave Syria alone and bomb Iran!"


        Or maybe this: "Do not touch Syria, otherwise you will get the S-300 in Iran"?
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 13 June 2013 01: 21 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        Here I am sitting and wondering - is there any truth in this conclusion?

        I doubt it. It is not enough just to bomb Iran - it is also necessary to ensure safe navigation after the bombing - and this is a very big problem. Georgia, as a possible foothold for an air strike, is lost for the United States, Syria, as a possible foothold for a ground operation, has not been captured .. Having bombed Iran, the Americans will have to explain to Russia that the European missile defense system is against dampness and against cockroaches ... To me, all this fuss around Iran seems to be a purely Israeli project with an attempt to "do the job" with America's hands ... Probably, someone just gave this private office money for this analysis (well, why don't they take them?) smile
  5. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 12 June 2013 09: 04 New
    +1
    Why are we selling S-300 to Syria, but are refusing to Iran? There is a civil war in Syria!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 12 June 2013 09: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      There is a civil war in Syria!


      Yes???? Civil War????? And I, by the simplicity of my heart, still believed that in Syria there is an entire intervention of incontinent democrats.

      PySy. INTERVENTION - aggressive, as a rule, armed intervention of one or several states in the internal affairs of a country.
      http://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D
      1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F
      1. Jin
        Jin 12 June 2013 10: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Hudo
        And I, by the simplicity of my heart, still believed that in Syria there is an entire intervention of incontinent democrats.


        To you +. In Syria, what is happening in Russia, in Chechnya, is happening. Only to whom it is not clear, it is not clear to me))) Such a pun came out.
  6. aleksandr.k
    aleksandr.k 12 June 2013 09: 10 New
    +2
    Yes, it is not clear why the Judas in the leadership of our country refuse Iran defensive weapons?
    1. alexdol
      alexdol 12 June 2013 10: 12 New
      +2
      aleksandr.k "Yes, it is not clear why the Jews in the leadership of our country refuse Iran in defensive weapons?"
      -------------------------------------------------
      And what is incomprehensible here? Look who "Medvedev" is and how did "Dvorkovich" appear next to him? And most of the oligarchs, who are they? JUDAS!
      And why does Putin constantly meet with these nosy with pats in black hats? So it turns out like in yesterday’s article: RUSSIA is not just in DANGER, it has long been OCCUPIED! You look closely who is in power?
      So I live in "Ukraine", we have a local Jew in Kharkov Eduard Khodos. In one of his books he writes something like this: the Ukrainian government can be called "Ukrainian" if you put this word in quotes. Why? Yes, because more than 50 percent of the Supreme Rada of the JEWS or half-blood !!! etc. "Often these people have dual citizenship: Ukrainian and Israeli. Here is the answer to whom they serve - Israel! Hodos asks the question: how do the representatives of the small Jewish diaspora in Ukraine occupy such a large representation in the WRAD? Here is" democracy "in action! Hodos, a Jew, has such a question, but most of our citizens do not have such a question? We often hear: if only a person was good ??? I strongly disagree with this. Yes, a person should be good and worthy, but for Russia, he must necessarily be RUSSIAN! In any case, representation in the same Duma must reflect the true situation - from the number of each nationality! And this is the only correct way, but in fact we have a different picture ...
  7. alexdol
    alexdol 12 June 2013 09: 12 New
    +2
    Indeed, maybe these empty talk is enough: to supply or not to supply?
    Who is the Russian government looking at, what will these international Gangsters say?
    It is necessary to deliver unambiguously to SYRIA and IRAN! Take the same SYRIA. What is this game of cat and mouse. How many discussions and shouts of "hurray" were, they say, put. And in the end what? And NOTHING !!! It is simply disgusting to read all this delusional reasoning about the concerns of Israel! Again the question arises: so whose interests does the Russian government defend: its PEOPLE or all these Western Bastards?
    1. Jin
      Jin 12 June 2013 10: 50 New
      0
      Quote: alexdol
      so all the same, whose interests are the Russian authorities defending: their PEOPLE or all of these Western BAGS?


      What do you have to do with your people, dear? We are talking about Iran, actually ... If you look and delve deeper into the topic, you begin to understand that the S-300 is the S-300 and before delivery: measure seven times, cut once. Moreover, I wrote a post about this, the supply of the complexes is not a weak lever of pressure on the "democratizers" ... If we put it: we will lose the lever, once, the S-300 in Iran is two, how will it go further, will it go?
      1. alexdol
        alexdol 12 June 2013 15: 48 New
        0
        Jin SU "If we put: we will lose the lever -..."
        -------------------------------------------
        This is not just about Syria or Iran, but about our interests and the security of RUSSIA, above all! Something I did not notice that here on the site the majority was against the supply of S-300 to Iran and Syria, just the opposite! How long can you look back at our "Western friends"? After all, it has long been clear to everyone who is the main TERRORIST in our world and who are his accomplices !! These bastards only understand the conversation from a POWER position! Look what this Israeli mongrel is doing! She has already begun to bark at RUSSIA! Considering options for striking our ships, while delivering the same S-300! And they write about it so completely calmly .. They just got Naked to the limit! So we also need to pursue a firm OWN line to support Syria and Iran, and not endlessly justify ourselves that the weapon is not offensive, etc. What conversations can you have with these international BANDITS! Maybe that's enough, just tired of reading all this ...
        1. Jin
          Jin 12 June 2013 16: 07 New
          0
          Quote: alexdol
          This is not just about Syria or Iran, but about our interests and the security of RUSSIA, above all! Something I did not notice that here on the site the majority was against the supply of S-300 to Iran and Syria, just the opposite! How long can you look back at our "Western friends"? After all, it has long been clear to everyone who is the main TERRORIST in our world and who are his accomplices !! These bastards only understand the conversation from a POWER position! Look what this Israeli mongrel is doing! She has already begun to bark at RUSSIA! Considering options for striking our ships, while delivering the same S-300! And they write about it so completely calmly .. They just got Naked to the limit! So we also need to pursue a firm OWN line to support Syria and Iran, and not endlessly justify ourselves that the weapon is not offensive, etc. What conversations can you have with these international BANDITS! Maybe that's enough, just tired of reading all this ...


          I understood you. I understood at the very beginning, when I was still writing the first comment. Yes, you do not need to listen to mattress mats and others like them, but! The main thing is to keep your head "in the cold" and not run into the jambs, they are already above the ears. I am for the support of Iran, for Syria with Bashar al-Assad at the head and with the S-300 in positions, and for a strong Russia! But, I am also for the fact that everything would be done wisely, and not according to the principle of Ilya Muromets: "Hey, Nightingale! Do you know me? Well, schA you will be a rooster!" (Quote from the Gaza Strip) the more competent the decisions are watered, the more we will eventually win IMHO
  8. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 12 June 2013 09: 15 New
    +6
    Well, yes, a "good" replacement for the S-300 "Thor". It's like giving a pocket knife instead of a sniper rifle. Instead of 150 km of the S-300's destruction zone, give Tor from 12 km.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 12 June 2013 09: 38 New
      0
      Quote: VohaAhov
      Instead of 150 km of the affected area at the S-300 give Tor with 12 km.

      Then already shell up to already ordered.
  9. nokki
    nokki 12 June 2013 09: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: aksakal
    Kosyakanuli - you need to recognize and deliver, the loss of face has nothing to do with it!


    I agree! Actually, the body movements of the Russian authorities are suggestive of some gloomy thoughts. Judge for yourself. Why the hell do we waste $ 4 billion? And these - "I will not give" - ​​with Syria? And questions about the deployment of missile defense in Europe, which could easily be closed by eliminating the past dastardly "scam" of Cuba? Or abandoning the base in Kamran (Vietnam), which would have cooled China for a long time? Etc...

    Now, I’m sure that they’ll squabble me about a misunderstanding of the geopolitical situation, about a changed world, about multi-pass combinations of the former KGB lieutenant colonel and the like. Alexander Nevsky, Peter I or Stalin could have multi-way combinations. Putin (with all due respect to him) does not reach the grandmaster title.

    Neapolitan Francesco Merlino Pignatelli in his treatise "Controversial Issues of Common Law" (1634) wrote: "A friend of my enemy is my enemy (...). The enemy of my enemy will be my friend. ” Why do we forget about it? And how are we guided by this?
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 12 June 2013 10: 27 New
      +2
      Here the matter is different, not geopolitics, and stupidly there will not be enough money for all these bases, and with our corruption they are simply impossible. Plus, the forces are not the ones that would oppose openly to entire blocks by placing the same bases on the cube. The second foreign lobby at our top is strong.

      Here is an adequate expert video.
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 12 June 2013 10: 06 New
    0
    An "interesting" rebus turns out .. First we conclude a contract, we are going to deliver. The West really does not like it and Russia restricts the sale of weapons to Iran. Iran appeals to the Geneva court (in fact, an institution of the West) and Russia is fined $ 4 billion
    1. piotr534
      piotr534 12 June 2013 16: 05 New
      0
      An "interesting" rebus turns out .. First we conclude a contract, we are going to deliver. The West really does not like it and Russia restricts the sale of weapons to Iran. Iran appeals to the Geneva court (in fact, an institution of the West) and Russia is fined $ 4 billion
      Politics is always a bargain, delivery was refused for the sake of amers and, naturally, not for thanks. For any, the Americans made a return curtsy. And the decision of the Swiss court, it seems to me already the policy of the EU, which plays its games. We live in such a world. yes wink
  11. Belo_biletnik
    Belo_biletnik 12 June 2013 11: 00 New
    0
    I think our diplomats are simply twisting their tail so that both "ours and yours", either Iran retreats and agrees to the world peace, or if Iran does not go to the world peace, our diplomats will say that they did everything they could, but they have to put a fine in Iran s-300 otherwise. I think that this is the only way our people can get out of this * experience without losing face. IMHO
  12. 23424636
    23424636 12 June 2013 12: 11 New
    0
    Iran is well aware of the reaction of the Jewish lobby of Russia and is trying to carry out the slogan "no politics, only business." The way out of this is to add kickbacks, ask V. Matvienko, who sold the C300 to the Greeks, how much and how to buy them from China. 200.
  13. cartridge
    cartridge 12 June 2013 14: 13 New
    +2
    S-300 supplies to Iran are primarily beneficial for the security of Russia itself. From this, we must build on decisions and not look at the opinion of the enemy camp.
  14. spirit
    spirit 12 June 2013 19: 50 New
    +2
    c300 to Iran?
    RPG PLANT OF JORDAN DAAAAAAAAAA!
    again we will wait when they start to bomb !!
  15. alpenstock
    alpenstock 13 June 2013 10: 32 New
    0
    well, don’t have to supply S-300, supply Tor-M1 and C400.
    initiative from the aggressors / well-known draftsmen of red stripes / still need to be taken away. Tomorrow, a country, a house, whose is known in terms of promoting democratic values. whether we want it or not ... / as they say, do you want peace? get ready / hi
  16. DmitryU
    DmitryU 13 June 2013 15: 01 New
    0
    Or maybe everything is simpler: we simply do not have these s-300s for sale in the near future, so what do they offer? After all, their production process is very slow.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 13 June 2013 15: 13 New
      0
      Quote: DmitryU
      we simply do not have these s-300s for sale in the near future

      Actually, the S-300, if I am not mistaken, is discontinued. And before, customers were in line.
      So, you don’t have to think much where to replace the replaced S-300s!