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Apology Gulag

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Apology Gulag
Why is it that over the past 25 years, quite sufficient for any reforms, we have not achieved anything other than solid theft in the country? Although over the same period after 1917, thousands of new factories, power plants, roads, cities, and 43 have grown in it already in many types of weapons ahead of the entire German armada! .. Why is the last thunderous chord against corruption with the resignation of the whole the thieves galaxy ended, as already seen by all, nothing? Why is there a terrible degradation of the people - just recently being in science, music, literature ahead of the rest? He could not reborn by himself overnight!


It seems to me that private answers like "because the commies did not finish off, did not sharpen the elections, did not overcome this and that" already are ridiculous. The essence is clearly in something more general, and more and more often it comes to mind that we have only two ways: or, conditionally speaking, a gulag tested for creation - or a skull. And no matter how much we want the third, humane and bright - it seems that it is not given. We are already a quarter of a century poked into it, like Pinocchio with its wooden nose into the painted hearth, but we rest against the blank wall. And who can guarantee that he will be looking for the next 25 years? What at the current rate of decay in general will stretch so much more?

Someone here will say: well, again an old song about “the need for autocracy and the charms of the whip”! But, as Nikita Mikhalkov likes to argue, “wait a second”! This song is not old at all! Let's look without embellishment at the current leader of the planet - the United States: is there any, if not GULAG, system? There are more prisoners than in the USSR under Stalin: 2 million-plus people. Unanimity is complete, control over everything is total: the speed on the road has exceeded by 10 km / h - a policeman’s whistle, but also degraded - the same whistle! And the metaphor of "half the country is sitting, half the country is knocking" - to a tee about them!

My biologist friend, who has lived there for more than 10 years, told in my Moscow kitchen: “I told a couple of jokes in my laboratory, the director of the institute calls for another day: bite your tongue, you are not here for Russia! .. Come up to a woman on the street - you will sit down for harassment ... "-" Why not come back to us? "-" Honestly, I would return if it were not for the money. Here my work is worth shish, and there, if you fit in, approve of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there are no problems. I, as a hereditary Jew, cannot get away from this firm stake! ”

As regards the extermination of the enemies of the people, America, too, has long and relishfully surpassed our former GULAG. Only we fought with them, with all the inevitable excesses, at home - and the States are fighting with them, already with hyperstrain, all over the world. We had a percentage of innocent victims - they do not have the concept of this innocence: you can put a hundred, two hundred thousand without any courts and "triples", simply by virtue of their GULAG doctrine. Their hero, Rambo, beat the Vietnamese like flies for one thing that the creatures did not want to die; they are allowed to torture - and this is not all blots, but the very basis of their successful existence.

But it is not customary for us to sharpen this point, because it goes against the ideas of the highest value of freedom and democracy, which was largely imposed on us by the civilian Gulag. The alignment of this fiction, blown up by our freedom fighters on the suction of the American bondage, and breeds darkness harmful to our people of delusions.

What now, that under Stalin he, I think, is still the same; about the same in America. His character is to grow stupid with impunity and respond favorably to the stern, overbearing whip that Stalin personified for us. In the States, the same role is played to this day by the merciless to their enemies the CIA, the State Department and the army - whose symbol has become the noble executioner Rimbaud. Where are our Abakumov and Beriyam, who sought proof of guilt in their dungeons, before him! The hero of America on his way shoots everyone simply, “from the hip”!

Today, without that whip, everyone steals from us, even those who are naturally gifted, but who are deprived of its necessary part-time job, grow into hooks. After all, gifted personalities - Chubais, Gaidar, Berezovsky, Mavrodi, and so on, but fatally turn into villains without a good whip! Under Stalin, she was exactly in the measure dictated by the era that “the doctor prescribed,” as was the choice: to steal and sit down - either work hard and be rewarded. And in America over the years of its uninterrupted GULAG, this award has grown immeasurably!

Our Gulag is being reproached for landing the future academic Landau: he spent a whole year in jail for nothing, instead of pushing our science forward! But he grabbed his year for what now in the US he would be given all 15 b: distributing leaflets calling for the overthrow of the current government. Kapitsa and Nils Bohr stood up for him, and they let him go after repentance - work in science, overthrow Stalin! And he, having received from the heart the suggestion, further brought with his work great benefit to the country. Who knows, maybe without it he would have grown into the likeness of some current balabola like Gozman. But Stalin wanted to see him as a beacon of our science, which he achieved.

Is the same история - with the landing in the 30s of young Tupolev and Korolev for the squandering of then scarce public funds and unrestrained speech. This landing hardened them so much that both then became the greatest designers of the planet - and there are no cases of similar forging of our creators. As a result, our aviation over the twenty years from the 40s to the 60s, it turned from plywood to reactive supersonic, having outstripped the whole world in TU-144, MIGs and Milevsky helicopters.

Our today's loudspeakers are saying that all this was not due to our GULAG, but contrary to! But the obviousness itself shatters them into fluff: we don’t have that camp system anymore - but there isn’t even a small share of the achievements that came with it!

Here is another episode from the story by Lydia Smirnova, People's Artist of the USSR. In a hungry childhood, the aunt who had rigidly raised her put her in a corner in the corridor of a large communal apartment, where neighbors' clothes hung nearby. There was something in the pocket of one coat, it turned out to be money, she stole it somehow, bought herself two rum women for it - and felt herself on top of bliss. And then she began to buy sweets for stolen from other people's pockets - oh, how great! She was caught, her aunt beat her in the blood, ridding her of all bad traction. And she grew up in a great actress - it couldn’t have gotten stuck on deadly theft, like the current “not seen” daughters and “sons”.

I mean, intelligible punishment is necessary as bread to the very nature of man, which was exposed in all its subcutaneous filth with our present impunity. And for such vast countries as ours, the United States, China, the punishment, apparently, should be very harsh - or the inevitable degradation, as we do now.

I also wondered for the time being: why did our liberals so furiously dabble this long-rained Stalinism so furiously by the States and their suckers? But he suddenly realized: this is a direct know-how intercepted by our antipodes! After Gagarin’s flight, US President Kennedy said: “Either we will build education by the example of Russians, or we will have to learn Russian!” But the example was clearly taken not only from our education - but also from a terribly effective GULAG that gave rise to our cosmic breakthrough. He skillfully applied the same experience to China and other countries that went to growth. Residents of South Korea in the crisis 1998 of the year handed over their jewelry to the treasury: the same Stalinist loan on bonds, healed from us - and brought them their national success!

That is, competitors simply knocked out our invention from under us in order to exploit it themselves. A typical case of theft of effective technologies - and this, with a little technical refinement, regularly serves them today. We, with our splendid spirit, fancifully intertwined with imperious meanness, hated our gulag - and they pragmatically fell in love with theirs. And live with him be healthy, with the same iconic slogans, unless it is also slightly modified - laughing at our empty quest for the fabulous "third way".

Yes, it may be both healthy and noble - that, in the wake of the rival-inspired tale, we embarked on a quixotic quest for the ideals of freedom, humanism, and absolute democracy. But there is a sad law: unlimited idealism in dreams leads to an inexorable collapse in reality.

With that cunningly slippery pacifier, all the current democracy came in when the Gaidarists began singing at the beginning of the 90-s: we need a free sale of land, as in the USA - and everything will be fine. Then I, penetrating, penetrated our Institute of the USA and Canada and asked me to write out laws on land in America. Extract read: no free sale of land there is no trace; regulation, not fallen asleep, and the Soviet Ministry of Agriculture! Not an acre of farmland can be sold to the left, the painting of all crop rotations - and the seizure of land from those who do not take the proper harvest. And in the midst of controversy about the land, not one of our newspapers dared to embrace an article reviewing all this!

In the same way - and with their other freedoms. If you have an umbrella stolen there, you can simply tell the insurer about this, he will pay the check on the check. But if at least once I lied, I didn’t pay even a penny of taxes and got caught - you will die from life forever. Another friend of mine, a poet who tried to live in the States, returned from there six months later. “If you want to live to be a hundred years old, America is your country. I registered my mother there, except for a high pension she has such a set of medical services that we don’t even dream here. But if you want freedom, it is not there close, everything is tougher than we have under Stalin, slightly different forms, but in essence - so. "

That is, it is the GULAG that damned in our hearts reigns and flourishes, on which our opponents climbed with their hands, not by their elbows, but by shoulders in world blood. And we all poke into this painted democratic center, imposed on us by the bloodiest regime on earth. From those who are many times more than our political and other prisoners, we tolerate instructions for cleaning our prisons from those with whom the GULAG is full, keeping their country in fear and contentment!

Recently, one of our liberal was screaming on TV: Gorbachev can be forgiven for having given us freedom, which never seemed to have dreamed! Maybe he did, but this is something that no one wants to take in the leading countries of the world, who realized that it is possible to live successfully only in freedom. In theory, one can argue with that to hoarseness; but all practice, all 25 years of our industrial and moral decline, throws these disputes into the garbage.

Today, our greatest horror story from the pro-Western cohort is about "tightening the screws." But in the West, these nuts are so twisted, that for the most miser of underpaid taxes they easily give 10 years to prison; and if we had that Western right, half the country would immediately fly to the bunks. The same Westerners demand not to punish us for economic crimes - even in the West, even prime ministers are punished for them! All this insult laid down on our current base, and on the occasion of the dream of a marvelous “thornless rose” deftly wound on a thief’s fist, we left far from our yesterday’s GULAG. Just where? Forward or backward?

And that's not what it says - it blows about our back course into that still dototalitarian chaos, in which we are dying out for a pinch of imported imported tobacco. Our disgustingly opened piggy spring will sell and endure everything for wild show-off to ride and break all the rules in huge and worthless jeeps - their drivers are already dancing in wild joy from it! At the same time, we are not creating anything close to what our Gulag has created and are now creating Gulags of other countries. But through the waste of our subsoil, production, brains, the very human form we are leaving our future, hoping that the payback for this will never come. Or it will come, but then it will be possible to hide from it in foreign GULAGs - like in the old days, the White Guards from the Soviet power. But is it possible with such hope, and then only for the most selective villains, to continue to live?
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  1. esaul
    esaul 12 June 2013 08: 17 New
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    Today, our greatest horror story from the pro-Western cohort is about "tightening the screws." But in the West, these nuts are so tight that for the very minuscule of unpaid taxes they easily give 10 years in prison; and if we had that western right, half the country would immediately fly away to the bunks. Those Westerners demand not to punish us for economic crimes - although in the same West even prime ministers are punished for them! All this defamation fell into our current foundation, and on the occasion of the dream of a marvelous "rose without thorns", cleverly wound on a thieves fist,


    Awesomely said good There is nothing to add except that - “We do not need such hockey!” stop
    1. Orik
      Orik 12 June 2013 08: 46 New
      +1
      And what is needed? What taxes do not want to pay? And I want to eat for pensioners, doctors, teachers, military. Then why all your patriotic rhetoric. Reluctance to pay was, is and will be. Without a strict, transparent, punitive system of fees, one cannot achieve.
      In our reality there is only one BUT, the state itself operates on black money and disgustingly fulfills its duties.
      1. avt
        avt 12 June 2013 10: 15 New
        +9
        Quote: Orik
        Reluctance to pay was, is and will be. Without a strict, transparent, punitive system of fees, one cannot achieve.
        In our reality there is only one BUT, the state itself operates on black money and disgustingly fulfills its duties.

        The state on black money cannot function in principle! The withdrawal of money from a real circulation into the shadow is like a bloodletting in a person, and this does not die for long. Well, tough measures must be applied, because the state is violence, and ANY state. This is a classic Well, after all, the rules of the road and traffic lights are regulated by state bodies and they are also punished for violating them, try to cancel the traffic rules for a day from the principle of freedom in the city - they will kill each other, so the restrictions of economic and political actions are the direct function of the state to preserve one or another type of hostel, and the destruction or weakening of this function leads only to one thing - a change in the form of government and its rulers, which was beautifully demonstrated here in 1917, 1991.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 12 June 2013 11: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: esaul
          There is nothing to add except that - “We do not need such hockey!”

          Quote: Orik
          And what is needed? What taxes do not want to pay?

          Quote: avt
          The state on black money cannot function in principle!

          - I read that it is beautiful to theorize, of course, we all know how. And plus you for that. BUT!!!! What is the reality? Here grandmother chewing gum and cigarettes on the street, and the taxes on the sold, the viper does not pay !!!! am laughing And sho? To jail? In the West they will. But not us! Because the police and the tax authorities themselves, and just people know that it’s not from a good life that the grandmother sticks out here in the heat or cold. We have to turn a blind eye to this, because it will not work to radically increase pensions! There is no money, and if there is one and you start paying such a pension, tomorrow all the prices will be such that there will be no sense from such a pension increase, and tomorrow the grandmother will again crawl here with a simple set for sale! This rests on the global economic and still not solved either in Russia or in Kazakhstan such things as labor productivity - recently there was a competent article about this productivity. We don’t want miners knocking on helmets - kill the productivity, let it work. but they won’t knock helmets, but they will produce low underground !! Plus, the Amer’s financial system, imposed by our Central Bank, is shorter and shorter.
          Under these conditions, both the Government and the whole society are FORCED to turn a blind eye to the tax-payers, otherwise - hatred + social explosion! That shuttle, dangling with a bag to Turkey and back - it’s kind of “self-employed”. In real life - UNEMPLOYED. But he does not pay taxes from his "winding up" and it seems like he does not require work and social guarantees! And it seems to be easier for the state, and this self-employed is as if satisfied! A prostitute is the same!
          You theorize, of course, beautifully, you have to pay taxes, etc. Only sometimes in real life fall down from the clouds. laughing laughing
          1. valerei
            valerei 12 June 2013 13: 14 New
            0
            Aksakal, in the subject of your comment, a case from my practice of communicating with the Russian tax inspectorate. Once my accountant calls me from a bank and says that our account is blocked, it turned out to be in another bank, and I didn’t receive any notice - it came by mail only in FOUR! of the day. Can you imagine a company that cannot work with banks for five days? And what will be the losses? But the tax on all this did not give a damn. The funny thing was that my supposedly unpaid tax debt was about 200 (two hundred) !!! rubles. Then it turned out that some kind of tax “chicken” poked a finger in the wrong place, but my accountant grumbled at them until the end of the working day and found it “in the wrong place”. We lost only a day and no one even apologized, and, moreover, did not return losses for that day. Why am I talking so long and boring, abusing the patience of bloggers? And to the fact that the notorious Khodorkovsky was (officially) imprisoned for non-payment of BILLIONS !!! and it lasted a few years! Then his stolen business was taken away and his people were put on him. Who took it? Well, apparently, the one who was able to plant him. And the tax authorities didn’t “notice” the non-payment of these billions these years, and subsequently none of this tax sat down to conceal these non-payments. Here is our tax jist!
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 12 June 2013 14: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: valerei
              in the subject of your comment

              - I'm in the subject about it. We have on our resources the main rzhach over the statement of the main Kazakh tax specialist - "we are the PUNISHING authority!" laughing laughing Still wearing a helmet and laughing! We thought that the tax is a fiscal authority. But no, it turns out - punitive. From here and that's it wassat (the second place is the statement of the Minister of Social Labor in response to the question “why do you raise the retirement age for women?”: “because ... Yes because !!”. The third place at Sting is for refusing to give a concert in connection with the Zhanaozen strike. Now there is an expression - "but please sting!"). laughing
              Well, the grandmas and very small tax does not touch, and this is a fact. Because it is beneficial to the state - self-employed and self-employed, and to hell with them. They don’t beat helmets on the streets, and thank God. But this can’t go on FOR LONG !!!! The low productivity of labor and the associated large size of the shadow economy carries far more terrible risks than the adoption of NON-POPULAR MEASURES in connection with measures to increase labor productivity. And Putin is obliged to go for it, even if he spends his very considerable political capital on it! After all, these measures will lead to massive reductions and a large release of human resources with approximately the same level of GDP - this is the meaning of the measures taken. And until the liberated people adapt and settle down again at an already different level of productivity - Putin will have a headache from the sound of helmets on the asphalt. However, even after an increase in labor productivity, Putin will not have a quiet life - if he decides to take these unpopular measures, then after a while there will be another step in improving people's lives, which will lead to a decrease in their political demands - serious environmental claims will appear, serious claims to education, medicine, freedoms and other, in short, all claims are of a higher level than the level of "let me devour!". So in any case, Putin is doomed.
              about
              Quote: valerei
              the notorious Khodorkovsky was (officially) imprisoned for non-payment of BILLIONS !!!

              - Your version is the version of the most frostbitten liberalists. Like, Putin liked Yukos, he planted a hodor and appropriated this Yukos. We discussed this topic, even the European court recognized the legitimacy of landing the hodor - and it was for what! We’ll close on this topic, please voice this version of yours on Echo of Moscow, it’s not necessary here. Smart people are sitting here.
            2. avt
              avt 12 June 2013 16: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: valerei
              The funny thing was that my supposedly unpaid tax debt was about 200 (two hundred) !!! rubles. Then it turned out that some kind of tax “chicken” poked a finger in the wrong place, but my accountant stuck it out by the end of the working day and found it “in the wrong place”

              It’s that, the guys’s account was blocked for not submitting a report two years ago, when on the same day they brought a copy with a “hoof” of tax, it just turned out to be a mess somewhere, well, okay, they’ll send a letter to the bank tomorrow, well, in Moscow it’s officially the letter can go for at least three days. The biggest trouble today is the lack of legal, not corporate responsibility for ANY official for the decision made. In general, we got our favorite toast so that we had everything and there was nothing for us. And try the throne is not 37 years old and not a totalitarian regime, though it’s not swampy and it doesn’t work, it’s also more “libertarian".
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 12 June 2013 15: 57 New
          +1
          If less than 25% of black money is spinning in the economy, economic growth slows to a halt. Less than 20% - stagnation under any, the most favorable economic conditions! Less than 17% - economic collapse. The IMF's activity is built on this knowledge.
          The fact is that in the 60-70 years the world (read western) economy with great difficulty survived the bulk of the "Asian tigers" - young, rapidly growing economies. It was difficult for Europeans to cope with competitors, they were not ready to work for the present. To prevent this from happening again, the IMF is setting the iron order in young economies ... reliably guaranteeing the absence of any economic growth.
          For us, it took not just a noose around the neck, but a multi-layer noose. Our economy is strangled at the same time:
          1. Kudrin and his comrades, not giving the opportunity to lend at a normal interest. Let him finally be driven away with a pissing rag, but his business is lively, our banks give loans at such a percentage that only drug trafficking can be a profitable business. Often, entrepreneurs steal from the bank these loans not because thieves, but because otherwise it is impossible to develop!
          2. Officials steal money, corruption. Like "black cash"? Not a. They do not let this money into the economy. They are taken out over a hill, or they buy everything, everything foreign. No duties will refund that the goods are not made with us.
          3. The most important thing. Why did we have the shortest period of entrepreneurship at the dawn of perestroika gave way to a long and savory period of banditry? Because it was necessary to reliably kill the creators, organizers, workers, which was done. But the creator is like a weed! Therefore, we have now organized a powerful system of raiding - the seizure of enterprises by officials with the support of law enforcement agencies. Should any naive employee acquire at least some noticeable property for his company - they will take it away, and he will be lucky to be a fool if he is not killed or imprisoned for many years. So our economy does not develop, it’s not for bandits to develop it, and not for raiders. They only know how to take and share ...
          It is small, but necessary for the economy like air, and companies need "black cash". They spend the initial stage on it, development into a full-fledged economic unit. If it’s not there, you’ll suck it out for twenty years! During this time, your usefulness for the economy will come to naught. And there will be an opportunity - in a couple of years the company needed for the economy grows and starts paying taxes normally, otherwise serious work will not work. Only we have no money from manufacturers. They are selected purely. And he managed to grow up - they take away the business itself. There is no economy outside of raw materials either ...
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 12 June 2013 11: 54 New
        0
        "And what is needed? What do you don’t want to pay taxes? And do you want to eat pensioners, doctors, teachers, military." - And also police officers, Traffic police officers, officials, judges and bailiffs, Olympstroy, Grozny should be rebuilt, migrants should be paid subsidies ... As you think how many affairs in the country so already a 47% tax seems small and insignificant! wink
      3. cartridge
        cartridge 12 June 2013 17: 44 New
        +2
        How tortured in US prisons.
        The guy is tortured in prison by electric shock.
        Real video in English.
        He shouts: “I can’t breathe”, and the jailer told him: “Uhhh, repeat that you are nobody”
        Notice how his legs are shaking ...
        1. honest jew
          honest jew 12 June 2013 23: 18 New
          0
          Found something to surprise! In Russian prisons, even this does not happen without any electric shocks there!



        2. honest jew
          honest jew 12 June 2013 23: 18 New
          +1
          Found something to surprise! In Russian prisons, even this does not happen without any electric shocks there!



    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 12 June 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      “then they give you just 10 years in prison for the very smallest amount of unpaid taxes; and if we had Western law, half the country would fly away to the bunk” - no, they don’t put us here, they just rob us:
      http://demotivation.me/qa9tlc83yczvpic.html#.UbgjHtiaTlc
      “On the eve of Vladimir Putin signed article 3 of the Federal Law“ On the Enactment of the Land Code of the Russian Federation ”and the new federal law“ On Amendments to the Land Code of the Russian Federation. ”These documents prescribe the procedure for the forced removal of land. The above-mentioned federal law was adopted by the State Duma and approved by the Federation Council . The Federal Law assumes that the irrational use of the land plot, as well as the owner’s failure to take measures to improve the land, may cause him to be forcibly withdrawn and terminate his inheritance rights. "
      - Do you think this is directed against banks buying up agricultural land and not cultivating land?
      1. Melchakov
        Melchakov 12 June 2013 11: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: S_mirnov
        "On the eve of Vladimir Putin signed article 3 of the Federal Law" On Introduction

        Or you can link to the law, otherwise your demotivators are not impressive.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 12 June 2013 13: 05 New
          0
          looking for yourself is not fate? familiar with google?
          1. Melchakov
            Melchakov 12 June 2013 13: 25 New
            +3
            Quote: S_mirnov
            with google sign

            Well, of course, S_mirnov again saw the demotivator he liked, but did not understand.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 12 June 2013 13: 35 New
              0
              There are a lot of articles on this topic in the internet. just type the title. The desire to seek a specific law - search for yourself.
              1. Melchakov
                Melchakov 12 June 2013 14: 02 New
                +3
                Quote: S_mirnov
                The desire to seek a specific law - search for yourself.

                Yes, I found the original. lol
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 12 June 2013 14: 16 New
                  -1
                  Well, how is land ownership efficiency assessed there?
                  1. Melchakov
                    Melchakov 12 June 2013 17: 42 New
                    +2
                    Quote: S_mirnov
                    Well, how is land ownership efficiency assessed there?

                    They will take everything there. Are you happy with this answer?
                    1. S_mirnov
                      S_mirnov 12 June 2013 22: 37 New
                      0
                      The law means found, not too lazy, well done. But they did not understand anything from him, since you cannot specifically answer. So drop the link, smart people will read, time will be saved, they will say thanks.
    3. Che
      Che 12 June 2013 14: 43 New
      +3
      The article is undoubtedly a plus. Thoughtful, without juggling. Our fat cats, freeloaders are a fact. Ameria and Western countries are not free - also a fact. Actually amers with terrible speed move in tartarara. To be honest, they are dear to them.
    4. smile
      smile 12 June 2013 15: 08 New
      +3
      esaul
      I put you + ... by accident. One of the rare cases when I fundamentally disagree with you. In my opinion, it’s precisely the looseness of the nuts and slurred punishments for revealed crimes in the economic sphere that is one of our most egregious problems, which, we hope, we are gradually getting rid of .... therefore we are without such hockey ... just die!
    5. Deniska999
      Deniska999 12 June 2013 15: 39 New
      +2
      They put me in business.
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    7. v53993
      v53993 12 June 2013 18: 01 New
      0
      Today our greatest horror story from a pro-Western cohort is about “tightening the screws”

      And, as a result, from under-tightening in due time.
  2. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 12 June 2013 08: 32 New
    +9
    Great article. Short and clear good Author plus!
  3. igordok
    igordok 12 June 2013 08: 39 New
    +4
    In the West FEAR in genetic memory. The Inquisition, and the wild Middle Ages taught: a step to the right, a step to the left .... Outwardly, the ORDER looks attractive. But this is the complete absence of FREEDOM, which they constantly chirp. FEAR is the best dope, makes you run to progress by leaps and bounds. Fear of losing a job, fear of justice (without money, they will sue), fear of not getting a loan, fear of not paying a loan, and various environmental horror stories, but they are also frightened by the GULAG (do not listen, it will be like in the USSR).
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 12 June 2013 12: 08 New
      +1
      [quote = igordok] In the West FEAR in genetic memory. The Inquisition, and the wild Middle Ages taught: a step to the right, a step to the left ....

      The Inquisition is a flower compared to the demoniac of Protestants. Inquisitors burned relatively little and not long, while carefully understanding the case.
      Protestants burned people and cats for a long time. In the USA, "witches" were executed in the 19th century. Then all the dogs were hung on the Inquisition. Doesn't it remind you of anything?
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 12 June 2013 13: 12 New
      +6
      “The Inquisition, and even the wild Middle Ages taught” - but now they are praying to the Holy Tsar Nicholas II Alexandrovich! Well, have we really gone far from the Middle Ages?
      http://www.ic-xc-nika.ru/texts/Alexandrov_M/Sborniki/Tsar_ISKUPITEL_Nikolai_II/T
      sar_ISKUPITEL_Nikolai_SBORNIK.html

      "Today, the last Russian Tsar Nicholas II is not only the" patriots "- the monarchists, but also many bourgeois democrats are calling to reckon the saints. But why in life he was called the people not holy - Bloody?
      1895 May 18 - During his coronation on the Khodynka field, more than 5000 people died in the stampede that arose due to the criminal disorder of tsarist officials
      May 1901, 7 - Execution of Obukhov workers;
      1902 November - The execution of Rostov workers: killed - 6 wounded - 20;
      March 1903, 11 - Execution of workers of the Zlatoust weapons factory killed - 60, injured - 200;
      July 1903, 14 - The shooting of striking railway workers: 10 killed, 18 wounded;
      1903 July 23 - The shooting of a demonstration in Kiev: killed - 4, wounded - 27
      1903 August 7 - The execution of workers in Yekaterinburg: killed - 16, wounded - 48
      1904 December 13 - Execution of workers in Baku: 5 killed, 40 injured;
      1905, January 9 - Bloody Sunday in St. Petersburg, the shooting of a peaceful procession of workers: killed - 1200, wounded - more than 5000;
      1905, January 12 - The shooting of a workers ’demonstration in Riga: 127 killed, more than 200 wounded;
      1905 June 18 - The shooting of a demonstration in Lodz: killed - 10, wounded - 40
      1905 September 5 - Shameful Portsmouth Peace with Japan: Russia's losses in the war - 400000 people;
      November 1905, 15 - The execution of the cruiser "Ochakov", other rebel vessels of the Black Sea Fleet. The death of thousands of sailors - Sevastopol;
      July 1906, 4 - 28 participants in the uprising of sailors in Sveaborg were sentenced to death;
      June 1907, 3 - Dispersal by the "holy" Tsar of the Duma. By this time, 14 people were hanged and executed;
      1911 - Famine, which claimed the lives of 300 thousand people;
      April 1912, 4 - Execution of workers on strike in the Lena goldfields: 254 people were killed;
      June 1914, 3 - The shooting of a rally of Putilov workers in St. Petersburg;
      1915 August 10 - Shooting of a demonstration in Ivanovo-Voznesensk: killed - 30 wounded-53;
      1914 - DAILY losses in the 1st World War - 30 thousand;
      For all this, the last Russian tsar answered in 1918 in Yekaterinburg. And it is worth considering before succumbing to the calls of the monarchists. Besides, he just didn't give a damn. "
      1. Novel
        Novel 12 June 2013 15: 47 New
        +4
        That's it! -Make a saint from Nikolashka, the same insanity as erecting a monument to Yeltsin. People mock, and people simply forgot how to think. at wars, he fed and guarded the owners, being in hunger and poverty, half of the children did not live up to 5 years, any protest was knocked down by the ghouls of the Black Hundreds with sabers. not embezzlers, not scum, selling shells into a trifle and stealing products from the army. The order of the socialist system and the order of Uncle Sam, how can one be equated? In fascist Germany there was an “excellent” and tough order, so what?. So now, actually, in Russia, in what is permissiveness expressed? , the authorities blame the earth, they steal the budget, they drunk people on 5-ton jeeps again gather thieves, they will send themselves to the gulag, yes? the Internet, nowhere shorter., And drink around the clock until you go to a fool or "even further." And try to steal at least a board, you will have the gulag and Auschwitz, it’s personal. By the way, in terms of serving the term per capita of the Russian Federation, the leaders are near the USA.
        1. DominusAstra
          DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 08 New
          +1
          Rave. Russia in eighth place, the United States in first place. You are a liar.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 12 June 2013 16: 23 New
            -3
            “So, since 2001, the United States has clearly taken the lead. However, starting in January 2005, Russia begins to slowly“ catch up. ”If, according to the Federal Penitentiary Service, as of January 1, 2005, the number of prisoners was 749647 (hereinafter without a military system) justice), then by July 2005 there were already 782935 people, by June 2006 - 832,4 thousand people, by November 2006 - 855,0 thousand people, as of January 1, 2007 - 871,7 thousand people, and by 1 thousand people on September 2007, 886,4. At the same time, the number of the Russian population has decreased over the same time, therefore, the level of prisoners (per 100 thousand people) is growing even faster than the absolute number of our fellow citizens in prison. "According to the latest data, the number of prisoners is approaching 900 thousand, then we have chances to catch up with the United States again."
            http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2009/0361/tema03.php
            1. Melchakov
              Melchakov 12 June 2013 19: 22 New
              0
              Quote: S_mirnov
              http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2009/0361/tema03.php

              Only here it says "author's calculated data."
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 12 June 2013 22: 34 New
                0
                Well, discuss it - find the official data, I know for sure that the prisons in the Russian Federation are overcrowded. The factories are closing, but there is no prison.
          2. Novel
            Novel 12 June 2013 20: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: DominusAstra
            Rave. Russia in eighth place, the United States in first place. You are a liar.

            And what does it change if it comes to more than 100 countries, if I’m not mistaken, one devil is in the lead. Therefore, about the "delirium" and "liar" you sir got excited.
        2. de klermon
          de klermon 12 June 2013 16: 24 New
          0
          "the protest was knocked down by the sabers of the ghouls of the Black Hundreds" ... N-n-d-a-ah-ah ... It’s very emotional for you, but not very believable ... Nicholas II as the tsar to Russia is to blame for voluntarily his cross and abandoned his duty to the motherland! Nicholas II was defeated by the enemies of Russia, and with Yeltsin a different story! Yeltsin himself was an enemy of Russia !!! And to confuse it is somehow not good ... At least not good! ..
          Well, about the protests, socialism, etc.: for 300 years, the House of Romanov for political reasons died incomparably, at times, by orders of magnitude fewer people than in the first 30 years of Soviet power! But there was even an order of magnitude more in tsarist and Soviet Russia than in Yeltsin’s Russia with any of them !!! It was under Yeltsin-cattle that the people, namely ordinary Russian people, were subjected to such moral violence that they almost forgot that Russia is alone and everyone needs to love it !!! And yet, to love the Motherland is not the ability to repent for nothing, not the ability to hate their past, not the ability to please everyone in a row !!! To love the homeland is the meaning and the right to live for oneself without it, not to know without the homeland!
          And if something is bad in my country, then I am to blame for this and all the others who consider themselves compatriots they all blame for this lie too! The thing to do! And if you don’t like something, then you need to look at the experience of our ancestors, those who were cussed with any trouble !!! Like this...
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 12 June 2013 18: 59 New
            0
            "And if something is bad in my country, then I am to blame for this and everyone else who considers themselves compatriots, they all are to blame for this untruth!"
            “It's to blame, of course. I do not deny it.”
            “The thing needs to be done!” - a very deep thought, what Case is it necessary to do?
          2. Novel
            Novel 12 June 2013 20: 19 New
            +2
            Nicholas is already to blame for taking over the reign, for he himself had no king in his head. “Bloody” was too cool a nickname for him, rather a small-minded, manipulated person. The weather in Russia became a court clique with various interests. By the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian Federation had become the abode of Western capital. The influence of Western countries on Russian politics has become egregious. The epic of this was expressed in Russian-Japanese, and especially in World War I., unleashed by the English "elite." Drawing Russia into the slaughter, for the interests of England, is a fact. The details of this war are tragic. for example, shell “hunger.” This is when a shell fired by a Russian manufacturer costs 1 rubles, but it was made exactly the same in Russia, but by visiting businessmen 15. The military budget bursts at the seams and it is logical that the tsar signs a paper to buy shells at ... 35. Naturally in smaller quantities. This war is a dark spot, it must be investigated., Details of World War I shine through that situation in the world and in the Russian Federation, in particular, the rottenness and impasse of the tsarist regime. by and large revenge on the Communists for the withdrawal from the "corkscrew" of the then Russia. And about the 35 years of the Romanovs, are you in vain, no one counted the deaths and didn’t read Dead Souls? , no statistics until the beginning of the 1th century. They had already been engaged in somehow or other, it turned out, for example, that almost 300% of the children were workers. and the peasants do not live up to the age of 20, how many millions? Life is a vague concept, having learned about the life of workers of those years, do you understand this life in general? Do not repent, but know the history of your country from all sides, rather than bark at the Communists thanks to whom it was called Russian for 50 centuries. And what does it mean to love the Motherland "all." To love means to do everything so that it ceases to be all.
      2. Melchakov
        Melchakov 12 June 2013 19: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: S_mirnov
        For all this, the last Russian tsar answered in 1918 in Yekaterinburg.

        And did Lenin answer for only 20 million killed? Not. His comrades-in-arms put him in the mausoleum and began to worship him.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 12 June 2013 22: 18 New
          -1
          "Lenin answered for only 20 million killed?" where are you only recruiting these 20 million?
          Sailor approaches Lenin
          - "Would I have a boiling water?"
          And Lenin, grunting with an hatchet, and says, “eight hundred thousand seventy-two is milien ...”, and his eyes are so kind, kind! wassat
          Do you read Solzhenitsin, or Suvorov (Rezun)?
  4. hommer
    hommer 12 June 2013 08: 43 New
    10
    I prescribed my mother there, she, in addition to a high pension, has such a set of medical services that we don’t even dream about quote from the article.

    Not everything is so rosy. My friend, a doctor by training, was in America, she was sick - she began to have uterine bleeding, sorry for the details. A local ambulance called her to the hospital. She was struck by the low level of doctors involved in it and the level of treatment.
    A high level of American medicine is a myth!
    Undoubtedly, if you have medical insurance, you will be taken to a good hospital with a normal level. Hospitals with highly specialized care are really good. So we have the same thing!
    But the huge problem in America is the high percentage of unreasonable surgical interventions!
    Money, gentlemen, money for operations is disproportionately large, than for non-surgical methods of treatment!
    But at the grassroots level, there is no medicine for ordinary citizens without insurance, all these series about the ambulance, etc. - an element of propaganda.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 June 2013 08: 53 New
      +9
      My friend left for Canada. Her mother was a doctor, so her pilgrimage to consult directly, because she gives them out for free, she is glad that someone needs her in her 85 years. And the former "ours" are actively using this, because their medicine is not suitable for our soles, and it costs so that no wallet can stand it.
      1. Lavr75
        Lavr75 12 June 2013 11: 04 New
        +7
        A similar situation, my friend orthopedic surgeon left for Canada, he was forbidden to work by profession, he worked as a loader, trucker, etc. My daughter and I visited the figure skating section, one boy broke his leg during training, he provided the necessary medical assistance, before the ambulance arrived, he provided at a very high level, as it turned out later. He was amazed at the low knowledge of paramedics. For some time, due to this situation, he had problems with the law, as a result, the owner of the rink helped him. Now he works as a doctor in this very rink.
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 12 June 2013 14: 24 New
          +3
          He was amazed at the low knowledge of paramedics. For some time, because of this situation, he had problems with the law, as a result, the owner of the rink helped him. Now he works as a doctor in this very rink. [/ Quote]

          Canadian paramedics are the power and locomotive of Canadian medicine. They are completely crazy about their stupid rules. Intersected.
          Somehow I had to call a doctor, a friend was on the verge of a pain shock, but despite the seriousness of the problem, the Canadian paramedic arrived, he categorically refused to give an anesthetic injection. They drove 50 km to the doctor. Everything worked out. The doctor was ours.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 12 June 2013 14: 33 New
      -3
      The quality of the medical system is checked simply - the average life expectancy ... In the US 78, we have 70. What other questions may be about the quality of medicine?
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 12 June 2013 14: 47 New
        +3
        life expectancy ... In the US 78, we have 70. What other questions may be about the quality of medicine? [/ quote]

        Yes, there is a question for you. What is more correct 30/2 or 5/2.
        By the way, people live long in northern Pakistan in Hunza. They are not familiar with modern medicine.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 12 June 2013 15: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: cdrt
        In USA 78, we have 70. What other questions may be about the quality of medicine?

        - vodka and a low culture of visiting doctors. Since Soviet times it happened - a man suffers to the last, then he turns when he is unbearable - and there it is LATE! Amer does not do that. The employer of Amer has taught - if you launch a sore - it will be more expensive to treat. Slightly sick - to the doctor! What does the level of medicine have to do with it? This is the level of medical education. And another example - the famous beautiful Hollywood movie star (I forgot my name, I am excusable, I'm an old man)) without complaints, it was just examined. You never know, just in case. She was informed that breast cancer is likely. So she took them and deleted them! Now it will live a long time. Probably. Compare with ours - they run to the mammologist, when it’s not so much that the breasts — they need to be removed from the head in order to be cured. What does medicine have to do with it? It is a culture. Unpleasant, but true, alas.
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 12 June 2013 18: 47 New
          +3
          - vodka and a low culture of visiting doctors. Since Soviet times it happened - a man suffers to the last, then he turns when he is unbearable - and there it is LATE! Amer does not do that.

          The United States is located between two warm oceans in latitude south of Sochi, there simply aren’t and cannot be many diseases associated with seasonal colds, vitamin deficiency, lack of sun exposure, and increased winter hypothermia affecting the functioning of the heart, kidneys, blood vessels, joints and etc.
          In our southern regions, too, life expectancy is higher than not in the north, and medicine has nothing to do with it.
          By the way, in the USSR, life expectancy was 15-20% higher than in the Russian Federation, due to the prevention of seasonal diseases.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 12 June 2013 22: 44 New
            0
            Loved your answer. Now those in power are diligently trying to shove all the responsibility for the disastrous state in our country onto the people. More precisely, the Kremlin to the regions - and the regions to the people!
  5. Averias
    Averias 12 June 2013 08: 44 New
    +9
    I constantly communicate with friends "from there", and I often travel by myself. And every time I wonder at what happens there. In the last conversation with a person living in the United States, I asked him - so with such an order, you will soon be going to build. To which he replied quite seriously - we will. This is their “democracy” and “freedom”. The most democratic and free country (in the literal sense) is us, Russia. What is permissible with us - they have real terms. The question arises - what kind of "democracy" are they fighting for?
    1. scrack
      scrack 12 June 2013 10: 11 New
      +2
      At that pace in the West they will soon reach quotes and repressions in the style of Paul Pot
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 12 June 2013 10: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Averias
      In the last conversation with a person living in the United States, I asked him - so with such an order, you will soon be going to build. To which he replied quite seriously - we will. This is their “democracy” and “freedom”.

      "Democracy is not permissiveness, which means that where there is no permissiveness, there is democracy."
      Malicious talkers, loafers, scammers, embezzlers, bribe takers, deserters, homosexuals, democrats and others who harm the state should be strictly punished
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 12 June 2013 10: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Quote: Averias
        In the last conversation with a person living in the United States, I asked him - so with such an order, you will soon be going to build. To which he replied quite seriously - we will. This is their “democracy” and “freedom”.

        "Democracy is not permissiveness, which means that where there is no permissiveness, there is democracy."
        Malicious talkers, loafers, scammers, embezzlers, bribe takers, deserters, homosexuals, democrats and others who harm the state should be strictly punished

        Duck in the USSR all this was. And everyone was accused of totalitarianism and lack of democracy
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 12 June 2013 18: 56 New
          0
          Averias

          Duck in the USSR all this was. And everyone was accused of totalitarianism and the absence of democracy.


          Unfortunately, there was no totalitarianism in the USSR, at first Khrushchev made high party officials not controlled by the KGB and the prosecutor’s office, then Brezhnev canceled preventive measures for subversive anti-Soviet elements and as a result immoral Jewish rats like spotted Gorbi and drunk Beni crawled to power
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 12 June 2013 08: 50 New
    +1
    The same story - with the landing in the 30s of young Tupolev and Korolev for the squandering of scarce then public funds and unrestrained speech.

    As far as I know, Korolev sat down "for company." But Tupolev - that da-ah-ah-ah ... drastically hurt his projections (one giant hydro-bomber is worth it!), Which is surprising that they did not plop! Indeed, between the SB and Tu-2 (which incidentally turned out to be a “sharashka”), the Air Force did not give ANYTHING. Almost 10 years. For what did not undertake - nothing happened. And he undertook everything. Even for fighters! See for example ANT 23 (I-12). 31 years old, by the way !. Also crap to competitors.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 June 2013 08: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: retired
      As far as I know, Korolev sat down "for company."

      Unfortunately not. Indeed, instead of working on state orders, he really used the money to develop his inventions. Just at that time they would not be so needed. But in principle - fulfill the state order, then think up your own, submit your project and you will also be allocated funds. And not like that - what I want, for that I spend. And I thought of it ... in the Gulag.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 June 2013 09: 17 New
        +2
        There seems to be a story like this. there was such a Jet Research Institute. The main developer was Langemak. I don’t remember the name, but google laziness. Korolev worked for him as someone like the head of a department. they developed rockets of various calibers and rocket boosters for aircraft. There was one bastard on the post of party organizer. Kostikov seems to be - not sure. I really wanted to become famous on the basis of armaments. I wrote a denunciation on Langemak - it didn’t work. Continued. here is a check. found a scanty waste. Not even embezzlement, not executed contracts. Then Langemak was accepted. A shot and almost his entire team. At the institute, things got up. And Kostikov received his fame. U. Golovanov article was on this topic. You can search. And honored veterans of the Novator Design Bureau told me the story. he is rooted in the Reactive Institute.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 12 June 2013 09: 49 New
          +3
          And further. The Gulag has benefited everyone. And aircraft manufacturers and engine and rocket and electronics engineers ... but to everyone who did not understand the historical moment. and the moment was such that it was impossible to relax!
          1. Lavr75
            Lavr75 12 June 2013 11: 32 New
            +3
            They were simply protected from worldly problems, provided with free time and given the opportunity to focus on work. What a real scientist will refuse it.
            1. Uzoliv
              Uzoliv 12 June 2013 12: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Lavr75
              They were simply protected from worldly problems, provided with free time and given the opportunity to focus on work. What a real scientist will refuse it.

              How everything turns out beautifully for you is a sort of concern of the Soviet government for scientists. And you imagine what it means to be branded an enemy of the people. How does this affect relatives? In children? How do acquaintances, friends, neighbors, work colleagues begin to relate to you. Preserved memories of how it was. Tupolev worked in sharashka, but he did not work there alone. Other designers and engineers sat and worked with him, and they had families. This is how Vladimir Eger describes this situation in his book “Unknown Tupolev” - his father worked for Tupolev and was also arrested. “It took no more than a week after the father’s arrest, when mother, returning from work, found that all our belongings were put up on the sidewalk before the entrance. The repressed family, as was customary at the time, was deprived of housing and, no less scary, residence permits. My mother handed out things to neighbors, and with me, a year and a half, she rushed in her arms to her parents, who lived in a wooden house on Borodinskaya street near Kievsky station. When she found out that her son-in-law turned out to be an “enemy of the people”, her mother said: “That's what you need” - and warned that our stay here is temporary.
              After the deprivation of registration, the mother was automatically fired from work. While she, practically without a home, without work and without support, ran in search of any job, my mother’s younger sister, Anna Stepanovna Kosukhina, took care of me and subsequently worked as a technologist at the Znamya Truda plant (now PCC named after Voronin RSK Moment).
              It was possible to get a job only semi-legally, in some small factory or in a workshop for a penny. One can imagine what kind of “housing” one could rent in such a situation. ”In this new housing, the boy picked up tuberculosis. This is such a touching concern for people. Of course, a real scientist can’t refuse it!
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 12 June 2013 13: 02 New
                +2
                Quote: Uzoliv
                How everything turns out beautifully for you, a sort of Soviet government concern for scientists

                so about this and the SBJ - after this, neither Tupolev nor Landau risked putting up leaflets and generally doing Nonsense, and when given the chance, they worked on science and achieved great success! And apartments and more - everything returned to them a hundredfold! And thankful human memory - to the heap!
                Yes, it’s harsh, yes, it’s like the family of a scientist who suddenly became concerned about the “freedoms” of the people, nothing to do with it - but, seeing the calamities of his family, the anxious scientist, if not completely “frostbitten”, will take up the UM. Mlyn, like this at the very beginning with Berezovsky - and Russia would surely have some kind of mathematical discovery of the Perelmanovsky level, and those troubles that Berezovsky brought to the country - WAS NOT!
                I understand that somehow it’s not humanly - but on Berezovsky compare the result. Maybe a year to torment, in order to remember what and what cannot be done and what needs to be done - isn’t such a direct punishment? Think about it, Mr. Humanist
        2. Curculum
          Curculum 12 June 2013 10: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: retired
          there was such a Jet Research Institute. The main developer was Langemak

          It was the case ... Alexander Glushko investigated in more detail in "Unknown Langemak. The Katyusha constructor": http://lib.rus.ec/b/423298/read (downloadable).
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 12 June 2013 10: 05 New
            +1
            Thank you very much.
        3. fzr1000
          fzr1000 12 June 2013 13: 19 New
          +1
          Langemak is Katyusha. So here.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 12 June 2013 17: 18 New
            +1
            This is what I have known for a long time. Ever since perestroika. I regret that I did not ask people who knew the situation at the reactive institute of those times, although there was a possibility. And they were not very talkative. And now ... and you won’t ask.
        4. Humpty
          Humpty 12 June 2013 14: 39 New
          0
          There was one bastard on the post of party organizer. Kostikov seems to be - not sure. I really wanted to become famous on the basis of armaments.

          Not all contemporaries considered Kostikov, as you said a bastard.
          He is considered the designer of Katyusha. Whether or not he completed someone else's (Langemak?) Development, what is the difference now.
    2. Valery-SPB
      Valery-SPB 12 June 2013 11: 10 New
      +1
      senior citizen (2) RU Today, 08:50

      But Tupolev - that da-ah-ah-ah ... drastically hurt his projections (one giant hydro-bomber is worth it!), Which is surprising that they did not plop!


      If memory serves me right, then it was Beria who demanded the creation of a dive four-engine bomber. Maybe Tupolev is not guilty of this, exactly?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 June 2013 11: 25 New
        +1
        Beria wasn’t a fool - he didn’t climb where he didn’t understand anything. but he could organize the work. And how. Military designers set tasks. Less often, the designer came up with initiatives. Like Ilyushin with IL - 2, for example.
      2. Rattenfanger
        Rattenfanger 12 June 2013 11: 30 New
        0
        Yes, yes, it is well known that in the USSR, secretaries of the Tbilisi City Committee or the Central Committee of the Communist Party (B) of Georgia demanded day and night to design bomber bombers from the design bureau.
        I didn’t do anything for an hour?
        How could Beria demand from Tupolev that he-Beria was not in charge?
  7. kind
    kind 12 June 2013 08: 56 New
    -1
    Not everything is smooth with our sworn "friends."
  8. Fox
    Fox 12 June 2013 08: 59 New
    +7
    I, as a hereditary Jew, can’t tear myself away from this firm bet! ”
    -that is true. among hereditary Jews, the motherland is where they pay more.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 12 June 2013 15: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Fox
      this is true. among hereditary Jews, the motherland is where they pay more.

      - To be honest, I do not see anything unnatural in this. Human labor must be paid. Highly skilled human labor must be highly paid! I do not blame the Jews for this, but for other things. The work of a biologist is highly qualified. And if you can’t get such a scientist because you can’t pay so much, then you are losing the competition! Everything is simple. Another thing is how amers compete. It doesn’t smell of honesty there - it turned on the printing press, the world swallows inflation, and as much as you wanted biological, you paid so much. The printing press can draw as much as you like. That is why this world of the Fed needs to be destroyed - the fundamental principle of science requires fair competition! And if this is not there, then MONOPOLIZATION begins, which leads to disaster - it has already been proved!
  9. erased
    erased 12 June 2013 09: 10 New
    +2
    But the author didn’t finish it? Who does not allow the return of a sound state regime in the country? Not the Gulag, but a clear right approach to the existence of the country and the right education of people from the nursery to the institute?
    Who can do this and does not? Overseas enemies? Or who else? ..
  10. My address
    My address 12 June 2013 09: 17 New
    +5
    I repeat, but in the subject.
    Imagine that we will plant only major thieves and only in the existing Criminal Code. Stalin's gulag is resting, immediately we will find at least another million to almost existing. And the bulk will be from the capitals. And after serving three quarters in the kitchen will be talking about injustice. A person usually justifies himself and his relatives.
    On the other hand, after a while they will steal less and work better. Some of the visibility of the above, some of the awareness that works for the future of the motherland. This will be despite the opinion of the tandem of the most senior lawyers on the non-influence of the severity of punishment on the result. FIG you. The reaction should be adequate to the deviation from the norm, I know this as a leader with experience, to whom is gratitude or order, to whom to the zone.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 June 2013 13: 22 New
      +2
      What is it immediately from the capitals? In all cities, towns, villages, people close to unclean authorities steal. So do not la la.
  11. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 12 June 2013 09: 25 New
    +1
    The author is a huge plus !!!
  12. valokordin
    valokordin 12 June 2013 09: 49 New
    +6
    Everyone knows perfectly well that political crime is in power, which came to power by criminal means, having violated all the laws of the USSR and the RSFSR, including the country's constitution, so they commit crimes without a trace, but they will never bequeath themselves. And excuses and polytechnical slogans about freedom, about the cursed Soviet past, about the Gulag, about the great democrats-plunders of socialist property will flow from the lips of fighters from the age of 37.
  13. Avenger711
    Avenger711 12 June 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    But they plant them for many things for which they need to be planted, but they don’t do this for us.
    1. Skavron
      Skavron 12 June 2013 11: 51 New
      +3
      e.g. for tax evasion or embezzlement
      such dates are not sour + otmazatsya not work ...
  14. Mr.M
    Mr.M 12 June 2013 09: 52 New
    +4
    That's right, the author is a big plus. Excessive and elevated to the point of absurdity democracy and freedom morally and morally corrupt a person.
    And I find it correct to think that the state actually performs not only a punitive, but also an educational function, the examples of Tupolev and Korolev are very eloquent.
  15. Avenger711
    Avenger711 12 June 2013 09: 58 New
    +2
    Our gulag is reproached for landing the future academician Landau: he spent a whole year in prison in vain, instead of pushing our science forward! But he grabbed his year for what he was now given in the United States all 15: distribution of leaflets calling for the overthrow of the current government. Kapitsa and Niels Bohr stood up for him, and they released him after repentance - work in science, and not overthrow Stalin!


    The funny thing is that the daddy of the future academician served several months for the failure to deliver the state-woo gold coins, after which he received compensation in Soviet rubles and was released. And he told his son, who at that time was on a business trip abroad, that he allegedly sat on a false charge of sabotage, about which his son later wrote during the investigation. Well, the fool was lucky, otherwise they could have found a very clear motif for writing this crazy leaflet and would not have gotten away for a year.
  16. svskor80
    svskor80 12 June 2013 10: 12 New
    +3
    But the truth is the total tapping in the West is considered valor and a sign of incredible civilization.
    1. a
      a 12 June 2013 12: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: svskor80
      But the truth is the total tapping in the West is considered valor and a sign of incredible civilization.


      this is, in your understanding, it is called squealing. and in their understanding they fulfill their civic duty. and by the way, not to say that this is bad. simply, it has become so customary with us that cooperating with the authorities has always been a thankless task, at all times, under any rulers.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 12 June 2013 15: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: uno
        this is, in your understanding, it is called squealing. and in their understanding they fulfill their civic duty

        They think so because it’s more convenient! And so that it would be more convenient to think so, appropriate laws were invented. And in order not to act differently in thoughts, individualism and consumption, etc., are introduced.
        With us, this will not pass, thank God.
        1. DominusAstra
          DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 14 New
          0
          Reporting a crime to law enforcement is the duty of every respectable and honest person. Other opinions are incorrect.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 12 June 2013 18: 09 New
            0
            Quote: DominusAstra
            Reporting a crime to law enforcement is the duty of every respectable and honest person. Other opinions are incorrect.

            And if the laws themselves are criminal? And if the state infringes people at every step?
            Quote: DominusAstra
            the duty of every respectable and honest person.

            What is this already few people imagine, and these concepts form power using SMD-the result is obvious.
  17. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 12 June 2013 10: 17 New
    +5
    The Gulag was not engaged in catching and landing criminals; they were sent there by courts with ready-made sentences. So here we are essentially talking about the effectiveness of the prosecution and the courts.
    The economic efficiency of the Gulag was not great, the maximum was 3% of GDP, but the efficiency of labor education was great.
    In the West, I don’t remember a single convict who managed to become a famous writer, artist, designer, engineer, etc., criminal record there is an irreversible collapse of his career until the end of his life.
    Without strict observance of laws and punishment of criminals, the state will collapse in history, a darkness of examples
    A country cannot be changed without dirtying your hands
    And strict courts and not freedom for everyone,
    The Great Sovereign is always cruel and cool,
    A weak ruler is misfortune for the people.
    1. Uzoliv
      Uzoliv 12 June 2013 10: 35 New
      +1
      Regarding convicted celebrities, O. Henry immediately pops up in memory.
      1. Skavron
        Skavron 12 June 2013 11: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Uzoliv
        O. Henry pops up.

        Well, O. Henry was still that slobber and an alcoholic.
        but, by the way, also surfaced in memory. Although - this is rather the exception ...
    2. Skavron
      Skavron 12 June 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Corsair5912
      a criminal record there is an irreversible collapse of a career for the rest of his life.

      so it is with us now.
      if you do not have friends of deputies or ministers
    3. DominusAstra
      DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 15 New
      -1
      "The Gulag was not engaged in catching and landing criminals, they were sent there by courts with ready-made sentences. So here we are essentially talking about the efficiency of the prosecutor’s office and the courts."
      Well, if the courts, not Special Meetings. Although all the same, most sentences are unjust.
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    1. smile
      smile 12 June 2013 16: 10 New
      +1
      reichsmarshal Maybe stop raving, huh?
      Tell me, you successfully entered the local administration with a machine gun ... well, okay, the secretary and one of the deputies shot ... maybe you still managed to kill those guys who are protecting our state ... then what? Who is better? And if it is on a massive scale? No, of course, foreigners will help you, unfinished Islamists will sing your hosanna and call you the right gyaur, but what will make the country and normal people better from it? Maybe answer? ... Yes, people like you should calculate, isolate and treat ... or shoot if it is impossible to cure.
      1. DominusAstra
        DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 12 New
        +1
        I agree.
      2. reichsmarshal
        reichsmarshal 15 June 2013 22: 48 New
        0
        the secretary and one of the deputies shot ... maybe you still managed to kill those guys who guard our state

        You are obviously yourself from the category of deputies or secretaries. Or even an employee of our punitive law enforcement agencies. Or a finished putinoid, like that young goat Sveta from Ivanov (what a shame for my hometown). Here it is useless to argue with you - to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear!
        help from abroad, unfinished Islamists will sing your hosanna and call you the right gyaur

        It was as if your ruling party had not created Islamic enclaves in Russia, no, in RUSSIAN cities, next to the Orthodox Church, which swelled like a cancerous tumor (the right word is how tired this Jewish circus is!).
        Yes, such as you should calculate, isolate and treat ... or shoot if it is impossible to cure

        Do not shoot everyone! Kolchak shot us, Denikin, Wrangel, the fascists in cremators burned and poisoned with gases; elcinoids were left without a penny and were condemned to starvation. But nothing. And the Gulag will be on you! am
        I understand perfectly well what the Islamists and revolutionaries are fighting for - they are fighting for their freedom. As Pugachev, Makhno and Che Guevara bequeathed: freedom or death! Well nothing! The invaders have already come to our land. Fascists came, now United Russia policemen, there will be Americans and Islamists. They will stay and leave. Only before we took OUR freedom from us, now how we get it - we won’t give it back. And then we will have democracy without any democrats.
  19. krez-74
    krez-74 12 June 2013 10: 29 New
    +2
    Good article! I’m interested in how this will all end, because the West has long been torn off from reality and is only doing what preserves the problems.
  20. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 12 June 2013 10: 34 New
    +1
    The same story - with the landing in the 30 of young Tupolev and Korolev for the squandering of then scarce public funds and unrestrained speeches. This landing hardened them so much that both then became the greatest designers of the planet - and there are no cases of similar forging of our creators. As a result, over the twenty years from 40's to 60's, our aviation has turned from plywood to reactive supersonic, having outstripped the whole world in TU-144, MIGs and Milevsky helicopters.


    On January 30, 1933, President Hindenburg appointed the head of the NSDAP, Adolf Hitler, Chancellor of Germany. How many aircraft designers Hitler planted by 1938, I do not know. But precisely this year, assignments for the development of jet aircraft were received. By the fall of 1944, the number of Me-262 had already reached 40 vehicles. By the beginning of 1945, the production rate of the Me-262 reached 36 cars per week. By this time, the Luftwaffe had received 564 aircraft from the industry; in total, more than 1500 aircraft arrived in the troops. From Me 262 V1 to Me 262 V12: prototype and prototypes; Me 262 V1 with turbojet engines BMW 003the rest with engines Yumo 004A.

    The MiG-9, taking off on April 24, 1946, two hours earlier than its competitor, the Yak-15 fighter, became the first Soviet jet fighter. The domestic aircraft industry did not have its own jet engine. The first jet aircraft were designed for the German troop engines Junkers Jumo-004 и BMW-003A.

    And if Hitler would have planted his aircraft designers after coming to power, then maybe on June 22, 1941 all German aviation would be reactive?

    The author of the article made a controversial statement. In addition, the aircraft designers Mikoyan, Gurevich, Lavochkin were not in the Gulag and the "Sharashkin offices" did not work, and Tupolev and Korolev did not have any relation to the creation of the first jet aircraft.
    1. Lavr75
      Lavr75 12 June 2013 11: 27 New
      +1


      The German mentality, they are ready to work without punishment, while still the sword of Damocles hung over them
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 12 June 2013 14: 21 New
        +1
        The first Soviet jet, rocket, or rather, the aircraft, the BI-1, flew already in 1941.
        Regardless of the "landings."
        It didn’t fly ...
        .
        But in general, on the topic of the article .... are everyone sure that the punitive system of the USSR in the 30-40s was purely our, Russian invention?
        Trotsky came from the United States with ready-made plans. Including - labor armies by division. And with the most severe punishments - for not developing tasks.
        That's what Lenin at a pace realized how to manage .. with rebellious. Through the institutions of hostages, camps and executions.
        ....
        The whole world has been observing the results - building in one single country - a progressive productive system - totalitarian communism.
        Results - Frightened - developers.
        This country, which has practiced such a system, has been recognized ... as a threat to the world order.
        Ruined.
        And they began to practice at home - the same thing. But with - TOTAL brainwashing. Brainwashing is not a Russian word.
        ....
        And again we are experimental rabbits. They are studying how our mentality will oppose - juveniles, hamadril pedrils, the rest there ...
        Ehhhhh.
        1. family
          family tree 12 June 2013 16: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Igarr
          The first Soviet jet, rocket, or rather, the aircraft, the BI-1, flew already in 1941.

          Exactly that rocket. Missiles from ancient Chinese and Hindus flew. The whole chip in the engine, which uses ordinary air as an oxidizer, is around.
        2. Valery-SPB
          Valery-SPB 12 June 2013 17: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Igarr
          The first Soviet jet, missile, or rather, an airplane - BI-1 flew already in 1941.


          They have already answered you quite right - missile. And this is not know-how compared to jet. A single-pulse airplane, take off and plan. You can hybrid - boost rocket boosters for quick take-off and a piston engine for flight. But, this is not for the front, but for the rear air defense.
          Moreover, in Germany, by the end of 1940, separate divisions were armed with MLRS in the form of 158,5 mm six-barreled mortars and launchers of 280/320 mm caliber. Look at the footage of the chronicle about the storming of the Brest Fortress, you will see clearly visible smoky traces of the mines. Mines are turbojet. This is June 22, 1941. The Red Army MLRS does not yet have.
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 12 June 2013 18: 05 New
            0
            "..RKKA MLRS does not yet have." .. in service.
            And there are already working installations. Fighter use is about to begin.
            not that ... sample that is worth bringing.
            1. Valery-SPB
              Valery-SPB 12 June 2013 21: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Igarr
              Igarr (2) SU Today, 18:05 ↑

              "..RKKA MLRS does not yet have." .. in service.
              And there are already working installations. Fighter use is about to begin.
              not that ... sample that is worth bringing.


              Absolutely not a good judgment. The Red Army has already used rockets of the air-to-air class RS-82 (1937) and the air-to-ground class RS-132 (1938). But the first ground-based BM-13 (132 mm) consisting of 7 units of a single battery was used on July 14, and the German NbWrf operated ALREADY as part of the Nebeltruppen divisions ("smoke troops") and turbojet shells, which corresponds to the modern type of RS for MLRS. My judgment is that there were jet planes and turbojet shells without creating them under the control of the SS in the camps, i.e. without "power stimulation." In the article, this aspect is credited to 1) the fact of later developments than in Germany, and 2) persons not related to the creation of the first samples.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 12 June 2013 14: 41 New
        0
        And who did this sword punish for a failed project?
        Examples, examples, and then the chatter is empty ...
  21. shurup
    shurup 12 June 2013 10: 36 New
    -1
    If the state is an apparatus of violence, then without the Gulag it will not function normally.
    In Russia, it is simply necessary to create a Gulag for foreigners - the largest, most comfortable and worst in the world. Its inhabitants should be caught everywhere on the planet and secretly transported to its territory. Those who think poorly and speak of Russia should be subjected to sophisticated torture in the form of hard physical labor in the cold, accompanied by forced overfeeding with natural products and vodka. Surviving and mature let go home with compulsory waste. Also in the Gulag should be allowed groups of tourists for money with accommodation for several days in real conditions.
    The compatriots will be able to use the services of the Gulag only after receiving foreign citizenship.
  22. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 12 June 2013 10: 38 New
    +8
    I recalled a joke.
    Desperation, the people threw themselves on the ruble and cloned Stalin and Beria. The first wins the election, the second becomes the prime minister. The first press conference. Journalists ask the question:
    - Joseph Vissarionovich, your first steps in a new position?
    -Paint the walls of the Kremlin in green and shoot all the previous government for the embezzlement and the collapse of the country.
    They look at each other in bewilderment:
    -But why in GREEN? Cultural heritage, the connection of centuries, etc.
    Stalin, turning to Beria:
    -Lavrenty, I told you that there would be no objection to the second question!
  23. Lavr75
    Lavr75 12 June 2013 11: 06 New
    -2
    Interesting, and who zamusnul article. Someone does not like the truth.
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 12 June 2013 13: 05 New
      +2
      I put a minus article. I do not consider the Gulag to be an “engine of progress." Especially because those who ruined Russia with its centuries-old history, in which such a formation did not have a place, stood at the origins.
  24. Bully
    Bully 12 June 2013 11: 17 New
    +2
    Thoughts about democracy (weak power) and monarchy (strong power) are not new. More V.N. Tatishchev in the 18th century noticed that democracy as a form of government is acceptable only for states that passively observe history from the outside (being unable to influence its course), and is completely unsuitable for states that determine the course of history.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 12 June 2013 14: 44 New
      +1
      USA, UK as examples of democracies that did not determine the course of history
      Ancient Rome to the heap
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 12 June 2013 17: 57 New
        0
        Quote: cdrt
        USA, UK as examples of democracies that did not determine the course of history
        Ancient Rome to the heap

        And was there democracy? belay
        1. Valery-SPB
          Valery-SPB 12 June 2013 18: 05 New
          0
          Where was she at all? Example?
      2. Bully
        Bully 12 June 2013 20: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: cdrt
        USA, UK as examples of democracies that did not determine the course of history
        Ancient Rome to the heap

        Regarding democracy in ancient Rome, I advise you to read a contemporary of those events, Cornelius Tacitus - endless conspiracies, executions, wars in order to capture new territories and slaves. Since the United States and Britain are the spiritual heirs of the cannibalistic Roman Empire (for me this is evident from their manners), democracy there, as in ancient Rome, is only in words for naive inhabitants.
  25. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 June 2013 11: 24 New
    +6
    The country's leadership is not responsible for its work and also for descending leaders of all ranks. And theft and corruption. So we have what we have. Under I.V. Stalin, such a thing as corruption did not exist. There was discipline and responsibility for their work. And the Gulag helped in this.
  26. family
    family tree 12 June 2013 11: 54 New
    +3
    The FSIN has not been canceled. The point is not in the name, but in the inevitability of the punishment for the crime and the compliance of this punishment with the deed, while the first and second past the cash register, call at least somehow, there will be no sense.
    Sharashki were not in the department of the Main Directorate of Camps. The Sharashka was handled by the Special Technical Bureau of the NKVD, reporting directly to the drug addict, and subsequently the 4th Special Department of the NKVD
  27. Umnichka
    Umnichka 12 June 2013 12: 09 New
    0
    The Gulag is not the Gulag, but a strong central authority is vital. And for liberals and others-really need a gulag. They do not understand good (European approach).
  28. deman73
    deman73 12 June 2013 12: 23 New
    -1
    Yes, we sirim far to shit
  29. Tektor
    Tektor 12 June 2013 12: 24 New
    +2
    I’m afraid that the topic (boobs) of the gulag is not disclosed ... Korolev sat down for embezzlement: for embezzlement of funds allocated for some commonplace and spent by him on the development of missiles. Such a waste, uzhos ... what
    The reality is this: the Soviet economic model after Zverev underwent abstraction and rested in a Bose ... Now we live in the framework of the Judeo-Saxon economic model, which also breathes incense, and for which it is unprofitable to build new production capacities: those capacities that have already been built, loaded at less than 75% - this is the margin of profitability. The paradigm requires the existence of a long overclocked resource, such as computers, which are also not visible now. There is despondency all around ... And here comes a very simple conclusion: either we will develop a new economic model, or the spiral of history will transfer us to the slave system (global gulag) with the prefix neo.
  30. knn54
    knn54 12 June 2013 12: 50 New
    -1
    "The statistics are fascinating.
    An ordinary Soviet man had the opportunity to fall under the NKVD punishing sword with a probability of 5%.
    Small non-party leader-7%.
    .
    Party member-78% ... "
    V. Suvorov "Control".
    Today, statistics are "quite the opposite."
    Now let’s imagine that PATRIOTIC forces led by the Leader, like Stalin, came to power.
    The tycoons fled, and here there were clerks, sales servants and BES traitors from the private security companies and the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
    And those wrecks that were after the NEP right up to the Second World War will seem petty pranks ...
  31. lucidlook
    lucidlook 12 June 2013 12: 58 New
    +1
    Will not help. To treat the consequences even surgically or by shock therapy is useless. The reason must be eliminated if there is a desire to get in the end not a walking corpse, but a healthy body.

    In Soviet times, society was strongо primarily ideologically. It was ideology that was at the forefront of each (I emphasize) - each victory and each achievements - from public to personal.

    Today we have no ideology. At all. Well, except for the fact that it was de facto established: "Man to man is a wolf. His shirt is closer to his body. And after us, at least a flood!"

    The ideological struggle was lost somewhere in the mid-80s. The last chord sounded with the collapse of the Emergency Committee. And now we need to start with ideology, we must return the IDEA to the minds and hearts of people.

    The idea of ​​freedom, equality and fraternity.
    1. DominusAstra
      DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 03 New
      -2
      Your ideology still died under Brezhnev.
  32. Black
    Black 12 June 2013 13: 11 New
    +4
    Put article minus.
    we have only two ways: or, relatively speaking, the Gulag, tested on creation, - or a kayuk.
    Tested by the creation of the Gulag? I would like to ask the author, are there any children? - I would like the author to let her daughter perish somewhere in Karlag for an unexpected word, and her son to Dalstroy? Do not, seeing that now is not all right, click. That period, the country and the people survived.
    Norway, Sweden, the same Finland - what, the Gulag of the European bottling brought the country to the level where to live with dignity? Or are we worse than other nations, no more worthy, are we cattle worthy only of a pen? Where the author sees himself, on which side of the thorn?
  33. USNik
    USNik 12 June 2013 13: 45 New
    +3
    Why, nevertheless, over the past 25 years, which are quite sufficient for any reforms, we have achieved nothing but complete theft in the country?

    Strong! I didn’t read further. Article UG. negative
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 12 June 2013 15: 34 New
      0
      Have you heard about the word "Rollback"? Not? what
      1. DominusAstra
        DominusAstra 12 June 2013 16: 03 New
        0
        You are not in Russia, no?
        1. lucidlook
          lucidlook 12 June 2013 18: 14 New
          0
          No longer. Do not overshoot the scourge of the butt.
  34. minimum
    minimum 12 June 2013 13: 54 New
    +1
    One “but”, gentlemen, lovers of a “strong hand”, landings, repressions and other nishtyaks: Russia does not breed, the Russian population is declining, young, active, working LITTLE. I’m not talking about humanity or the value of human life, these conversations are useless with you, but it’s banal, there are no more people to plant and spread rot in Stalin’s quantities, is it not clear? wink I understand that the idea of ​​thousands of slaves in the camps tickles your nerves, but there are no more of these thousands, each counting, technically reproducing repression without destroying Russia will be simply unrealistic! Sad yes?)
    Z. Although you can replace the local sitting population with Eurasian brothers from Tajikistan, how can I not take into account)
  35. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 12 June 2013 14: 11 New
    -1
    The painstaking philosophical idea of ​​"Whip and Priyanik", or in Russian, "a tale of three roads." Although I completely agree with her
  36. nickolay.niccon
    nickolay.niccon 12 June 2013 14: 15 New
    +1
    In principle, everything is quite banal ... The role of carrot and stick in history ... But, in my opinion, the role of a specialist in the industry is much more important. Well, an economist, a lawyer, a “manager” cannot penetrate into all the intricacies of the production of equipment, especially combat. If only he is a genius, and something like this is not observed ... not to mention promising research and development. The economic benefits and concern about filling the pocket overshadows everything else, narrowing the horizons ... There are no examples of that, everyone is aware that it’s even inconvenient to repeat ... In fact, it’s very modern and timely, in terms of implementation ... Where, for example, in Russia produce, at a Russian enterprise, rubber using carbon nanomaterials? With very high parameters. I haven’t heard yet, the Internet gives out only imports in a search engine. Recently I read on the network about the beginning of work to improve ammunition for firearms ... The technology for the production of gunpowder has not changed much since almost the 30s! And how much more ...

    The specialist should lead the industry, and even better - a fan of his craft. Like Korolev, Tupolev, Kalashnikov and many others. And so ... Imagine an accountant at the helm, no matter what ...
  37. optimist
    optimist 12 June 2013 15: 17 New
    0
    Some kind of ambiguous article ... On the one hand, the author is right: "Beatie determines consciousness!" But the whole question is only one: who will beat whom and whom? Does the present gangster-oligarchic power its poor and stale people? As the "comrade" Mussolini also said: "To your everything, the law is the enemy !!!". First of all, you need to change the political and social system in the country, and then stretch the barbed wire in places that are not "so distant." And nodding at our "winner" of the United States with its two million prisoners is at least stupid: we have a million sitting, and the population is more than half that in America. To date, our people have a tacit agreement with the authorities: "We steal, but you do not buzz and steal too." And until this vicious circle is broken, nothing will help, even if all 140 million Rasseins are not transplanted.
    1. DominusAstra
      DominusAstra 12 June 2013 15: 58 New
      -1
      We have a little about seven hundred thousand people sitting, you either lie or are mistaken. In addition, the indicator of the number of prisoners per 100 thousand inhabitants looks, in the USA it is 730, in the Russian Federation - about 480 or less.
      And what is a "social system", tell? How to change it? Society cannot be changed, it is changing itself.
  38. Alekseev
    Alekseev 12 June 2013 15: 42 New
    0
    Truth is always in the middle.
    And the “charms” of the Gulag are best applied to the defenders of its existence.
    But then, when they notice some rubbish on libel, but for 10 years, to blame or not to blame - it does not matter, for prevention, hardening is good, a lesson for the future! wassat
    But now a bacchanalia of theft and irresponsibility.
    There is no evidence ... tongue and not the 37th year ... request
    It is possible and necessary to press.
    Is there enough political will?
    And do leaders have a desire to fight?
    About that is unknown ...
  39. sergey72
    sergey72 12 June 2013 15: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Rattenfanger
    I recalled a joke.
    Desperation, the people threw themselves on the ruble and cloned Stalin and Beria. The first wins the election, the second becomes the prime minister. The first press conference. Journalists ask the question:
    - Joseph Vissarionovich, your first steps in a new position?
    -Paint the walls of the Kremlin in green and shoot all the previous government for the embezzlement and the collapse of the country.
    They look at each other in bewilderment:
    -But why in GREEN? Cultural heritage, the connection of centuries, etc.
    Stalin, turning to Beria:
    -Lavrenty, I told you that there would be no objection to the second question!
  40. sergey72
    sergey72 12 June 2013 15: 45 New
    0
    I agree with the second paragraph
  41. DominusAstra
    DominusAstra 12 June 2013 15: 50 New
    -2
    The article is bad. The style is not that, the idea is not that, everything is not that.
  42. 128mgb
    128mgb 12 June 2013 15: 50 New
    +1
    When comparing the United States and Russia, education, medicine, living standards, cars, finally! That already distorts me from the stupidity of comparison! They just forget that the United States prints green paper all over the world! They will stop buying it, and sooner or later it will happen, and all these benefits will end. But the Gulag was needed at that time, just imagine how much scum after the revolution and the civil was in the country. And most importantly, a lot of dirt was in their heads!
    1. DominusAstra
      DominusAstra 12 June 2013 15: 56 New
      -3
      Quote: 128mgb
      But the Gulag was needed at that time, just imagine how much scum after the revolution and the civil was in the country. And most importantly, a lot of dirt was in their heads!

      But what about physicists? Rokossovsky? But what about extrajudicial sentences without the right to appeal? With all due respect to the role of Stalin in victory and industrialization, repression is an absolute horror from the point of view of law.

      And dollars will not stop buying soon, believe me.
      1. Rattenfanger
        Rattenfanger 12 June 2013 17: 08 New
        +2
        And what about Rokossovsky? The investigation showed that he was innocent. He was released, restored, having paid a salary for the time spent in custody. And resentment he did not have, judging by the recollections.
  43. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 12 June 2013 19: 02 New
    +2
    The gulag is not the gulag, but impunity dominates today, and where there is impunity there is permissiveness. Children already at school understand that the one who has more power and money is right.
  44. Captain45
    Captain45 12 June 2013 19: 36 New
    0
    Gentlemen, comrades, comrades, well, in general, how do you like it? I will not rattle the topic about taxes, interest and other things, I have such a question, here on the website many people position themselves almost as Pavlovsky and give strategic forecasts and recommendations regarding how do we get out of where we all together with the cries of “Hurray” flew into the 91 year. So tell me please, to the dark tundra- How do you assess the almost weekly, and then 2-3 weekly appearance of such articles? I want to hear the opinion of enlightened, and then I will tell you my opinion. then in the last time I notice. that all discussions come together — either to cry all over, or to seize everything, or about your sore point. Somehow the discussions with the analyst somehow disappeared.
  45. Zeus
    Zeus 12 June 2013 20: 29 New
    +1
    A state without an adequate repression system is the same as an organism without an immune system. Chic article.
  46. 128mgb
    128mgb 12 June 2013 20: 48 New
    0
    [quote = DominusAstra] [quote = 128mgb]

    And dollars will not stop buying soon, believe me. [/ Quote]
    The ultimate truth can only be God, all-seeing and all-knowing. Note that I did not name a specific term, unlike you.
    P.S. All the great empires collapsed overnight and each believed that it was not like the others, it would last for millennia. But alas ..
  47. dropout
    dropout 12 June 2013 20: 53 New
    0
    Let me remind you.

    1937 Closed trial of Marshal M.N. Tukhachevsky and seven other top military commanders. On the night of June 12, M. I. Tukhachevsky, I. E. Yakir, I. P. Uborevich, A. I. Kork and others were shot in the “Tukhachevsky case”.

    And the benefits were not in doubt.
  48. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 June 2013 21: 04 New
    +1
    After Gagarin’s flight, US President Kennedy said: “Either we will build education following the example of Russians, or we will have to learn Russian!”

    Is this not a recognition of the quality of education in the USSR ?! And the same Central Intelligence Agency agents who “served” (or maybe still “serve”) in the Russian government, dragged their moronic training system to Russia and the countries of the former USSR.
    Zeus (1) SU Today, 20:29 PM
    A state without an adequate repression system is the same as an organism without an immune system. Chic article.

    I absolutely agree with you! AMERICOS AND GEYROP are constantly injected toleranceto kill this very immune system - the ability to resist their "reforms."
  49. vladek64
    vladek64 16 June 2013 12: 28 New
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    My biological friend ... if you fit in, you approve of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there are no problems. I, as a hereditary Jew, can’t tear myself away from this firm bet! "


    Well, you have friends, Author! With such enemies it is not necessary.
    In the same way they will approve of the war in Russia. If only not to break away from the firm bet!
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