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Dagestan opens his eyes?

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For the first time ever history The existence of the Republic of Dagestan within the Russian Federation (since the collapse of the USSR), the head of this republic declares that the region is fed from the hands of the Ryazan peasant. The person who, for the first time in the last 20 years, has called things by his own name, essentially declaring that Dagestan was really addicted to subsidies from the federal center, that is, other Russian taxpayers' money, was Ramazan Abdulatipov, the acting head of the Republic of Dagestan.


All the post-Soviet times, the Dagestan authorities literally were silent about the expressed problem, fearing to disturb the flow of material resources that was stretching from Moscow to the republic. After all, if one of the presidents announced that feeding from the hands of an outside taxpayer without making their own efforts to earn money honestly is a shame for a self-respecting resident of Dagestan, the federal center could also reconsider its policy of subsidizing the Dagestan economy. Who would be the first to reflect on such a review? Well, certainly not on ordinary Dagestanis, who, if they got some money from federal funds, were real crumbs. All the big pieces of the pie went to the bureaucratic composition of the republic, the so-called clans, which held in their hands all the financial mechanisms of the region.

So, 20 and Dagestan remained a subsidized region, and this status has already become so rooted in the republic that many of its inhabitants have come to terms with their position: they don’t know how to earn a living, we’ll stand with an outstretched hand authorities will throw a penny or two. We have to quit - we are - Russia ...

Naturally, there were (and there are) in the republic those people who understood that a specific multi-level filter was built between the subsidiary flow from the federal center and the ordinary Dagestanis, which did not let all the “fat” sums through itself, but “spit out” "Towards the final recipient. This filter was created over the years, and with each new time interval, a new membrane grew to it, which was the next layer of the clan structure of the republic. At the federal funds, as well as funds obtained by criminal means, many representatives of the republican bureaucratic camarilla fed (and continue to feed). This camarilla nullified all the efforts undertaken to restore order in the republic and improve the economic situation.

But is stabilization in the republic beneficial to the heads of the Dagestan clan system, is the increase in the number of jobs, the opening of new enterprises using private investment beneficial? The answer can be only one: no! No, because stabilization is a blown-down smoke screen, behind which federal funds go like a black hole, through which it is impossible to discern who is yours, who is a stranger, and you cannot proceed to a real arrangement. It is much more profitable to have puppet gangs who obey strictly certain officials and solve, let's say, highly specialized tasks to eliminate those who are trying to push the region towards stabilization. And then it is advantageous to expose the same puppet gang groups by such groups that receive funding exclusively from some Saudi Arabia or Qatar. No - these states, as you know, have a stigma, and no one relieves them of responsibility, but today the basis for supporting the extremist underground in the same North Caucasus is the official clans that stuck to the federal funds.

In addition, in Dagestan, along with a number of other North Caucasian republics, a truly unique system of “filling” government posts has been built. These posts are simply bought. This is a kind of family business that, in the form of a vice-mayor’s seat, a prosecutor, the head of one of the departments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, is literally inherited. A peculiar variant of the absolute monarchy acquired for banknotes in a single area of ​​life activity. If you want to work and earn money in the North Caucasus, save money and buy, for example, the seat of a republican prosecutor, some minister of the republican government. You cannot work, or the work was forced to stop by competitors - it does not matter - you put your brother in a chair (nephew, godson, son, grandson, and then on the list). He will continue the work begun.

Whole dynastic groups in the bureaucratic departments of the same Dagestan are, to put it mildly, not the same as the dynasties of doctors or teachers. There are dynasties of mayors, vice-governors, etc. A boy was born in the family of a republican official, and the parents already know for sure that he will be the head of the administration of such a municipality as a father (uncle, grandfather). A system that is generated by corruption itself breeds corruption.

Obviously, such a system literally connects all those who are going to fight it hand and foot. Abdulatipov was going to fight - he would have swallowed Abdulatipov too ... But it seems that the antidote was found. As they say, better late than never. In the same Dagestan, they stopped beating "on the tails" of a huge regional octopus, and decided to find the brain center of this paralyzing all the productive work of the mollusk. The detention of the mayor of Makhachkala, seven high-ranking officials of the republican Ministry of Internal Affairs, officials from other municipalities - this is a blow to the brain center. If this blow had not been dealt with on time, then Ramazan Abdulatipov would have two or three options: either turn into the next head of the region, dancing to the tune of criminal clans, or write a statement “on his own,” or, God forbid, one day to sit in Mined car. All these options are productive for criminal clans and, of course, absolutely unacceptable for the ordinary local population, tired of the endless disorder of the republic. The controlled president is a great success for the teams of Dagestan, who smiled at them, frankly, too often ...

Now the head of the republic has decided to open the eyes of the local population, which in recent years has apparently decided that if a Dagestani wants to work, then he either needs to go to the mountains, or go to Moscow, or buy the seat of a small official.

You have to earn it yourself, consume it yourself and help the country, is one of the quotes from the Acting President of the Republic, which he said in his interview on Russia 1 TV channel.

Will the words of Abdulatipov and other facts from the current life of Dagestan become the starting point for a fundamental change in the situation in the republic? I want to believe that they will, because in this case the role of the personality is really great. If all your personal qualities and. the president will be systematically implemented, the persecution of criminal contagion will go even more actively. It is gratifying to acknowledge the fact that Moscow does not leave Abdulatipov alone with the whole snake coil that has entangled Dagestan over the past few years. The latter operation, which draws on the status of a large-scale military, is direct evidence of this.

The Amirovites frightened the country by saying that after the detention of the mayor of Makhachkala, Dagestan would explode with agitation. But if Moscow “shovels” hit the criminal brain center, then there is no one to make unrest. And the relatively calm situation in the republic today is clear evidence that the puppet groups of criminal “sixes” have lost their control center, and they are not accustomed to act independently, and even without generous barorial funding.
By the way, the seemingly endless series of terrorist acts in Dagestan is still over. I would not like to think that only temporarily interrupted. There is an opinion that the perpetrators of these terrorist acts received orders for terrorist acts also to discredit the new head of the republic. Now, the “clerks” were behind bars, and the dynastic distribution system of bureaucratic chairs reeled as never before. The main thing is that the criminal clans do not have time to lick their wounds and embark on the familiar path of their “work”, the victim of which is at least the whole republic with a population of three million.
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  1. Strashila
    Strashila 13 June 2013 08: 32
    29
    20 years of Caucasian communism ... 20 years of freebies and theft.
    1. krasin
      krasin 13 June 2013 08: 47
      18
      Finally, they woke up! This is clear to every sane rosian! The Caucasus sits and hangs its legs. Only the Russian government is officially in no way, although they understand that this is so. They, with their dense clan formations, will not go far, so they will be with outstretched hands! And Caucasians are proud people, neither conscience nor pride beggars!
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 13 June 2013 10: 10
        68
        Quote: krasin
        And Caucasians are proud people, neither conscience nor pride beggars!

        You shouldn't be so about all at once. The people are heterogeneous. There are villains (who are smaller in number), and there are ordinary, normal, ordinary citizens. Not Russians, but Russians. Remember what was the reason for the above "military" operation. The murder of investigator Arsen Hajibeyov in Dagestan. What do you think, who is he by nationality, whose interests he defended and for whom did he die? And the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Dagestan Adilgerei Magomedtagirov?
        The overwhelming majority of Dagestanis are normal people who did not see federal money in their eyes just because they did not reach them.
        hi
        Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia. The goal is the collapse of Russia.
        No.
        Another slogan I personally like is enough to feed the West!
        yes
        1. Maks111
          Maks111 13 June 2013 10: 59
          40
          Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia. The goal is the collapse of Russia.

          Another slogan I personally like is enough to feed the West!

          You know, but I am more impressed by another slogan: "Let's feed Siberia". Why are other regions worse than the Caucasus and Moscow? For some reason, you look at the beautiful rebuilding of Grozny and the snickering Moscow, and then at Yakutsk, where a solid part of the city lives without canadization, this is in the 21st century.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 13 June 2013 15: 00
            +1
            Quote: Max111
            the good part of the city lives without canadization

            You canadize all good parts of all cities! laughing (Maxim no offense)
            1. Maks111
              Maks111 13 June 2013 17: 41
              +2
              You canadize all good parts of all cities! (Maxim no offense)
              Yes, no one is offended)) It's a pity you can’t fix it.
              1. Combitor
                Combitor 14 June 2013 04: 16
                0
                <Give canadization to all Russian cities!>
                And this is a slogan! "Canadianization" of Russian cities in the sense of coziness, comfort, cleanliness and order, good roads and sidewalks, normal housing and accountability and responsibility of city authorities not to the center, but to the population of each particular city. And also the election of the main city policeman, sorry - the policeman by the residents of the city. That he, too, be held accountable to those who chose him and whom he is obliged to protect.
          2. Barabas
            Barabas 13 June 2013 16: 01
            +7
            Max, I built the town of Udachny and the town of Aikhal in Yakutia. It is much closer to the Arctic Circle than Yakutsk, much colder and what is interesting with the sewerage system, everything is civilized. Everything is just Max! You have to ask the local noyons, - "Where is Zin's money?" Let's feed the slogan is good, but the Chinese model of fighting corruption is better. Just go to the wall!
            1. RPD
              RPD 13 June 2013 16: 35
              +1
              the private sector in Yakutsk, as it was, was left without gas and sewage, some put boilers for their money and with oh .... oh subsidy for which you have to run
            2. Maks111
              Maks111 13 June 2013 17: 44
              +1
              Max, I built the town of Udachny and the town of Aikhal in Yakutia. It is much closer to the Arctic Circle than Yakutsk, much colder and what is interesting with the sewerage system, everything is civilized. Everything is just Max! You have to ask the local noyons, - "Where is Zin's money?" Let's feed the slogan is good, but the Chinese model of fighting corruption is better. Just go to the wall!
              No, everything is in the new stoves, but in the city there are a lot of old wooden houses, well, there’s someone there who is lucky)) Where is everything you need (gas, water, sewage), but where is there only light and heating))
            3. projdoha
              projdoha 13 June 2013 22: 11
              +2
              the main thing is not the power of punishment, but its inevitability.
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 19 June 2013 09: 51
                0
                A good term and confiscation is MANDATORY, this is also a good deterrent, and relatives should not be forgotten! That's fine !! What a brake!
            4. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 19 June 2013 09: 44
              0
              I'm for the same approach, stole the prison! And then the bureaucrats are completely out of impunity ....
          3. Normal
            Normal 13 June 2013 19: 00
            +5
            Quote: Sukhov
            Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia.

            Quote: Sukhov
            Another slogan I personally like is enough to feed the West!

            Quote: Max111
            You know, but I am more impressed by another slogan: "Let's feed Siberia". Why are other regions worse than the Caucasus and Moscow?

            Well, yes, but what about without Moscow? It all started with her. The slogan originally sounded like "Stop feeding Moscow!" In Soviet times, wherever you go, everyone feeds Moscow.
            One nurse of Moscow in particular, and Russia as a whole, fell off, and now overeating fat in chocolate is silent.
            The slogan and purpose of action should be like this; Enough to feed!
            Both Dagestan (warm climate - agriculture, the Caspian fisheries) and Moscow (the country's largest transport hub, the intersection of 12 roads) may well feed YOURSELF and not even just yourself. You just need to create such conditions. ("just" to say is difficult to do, but NECESSARY)
            And endless subsidies can ruin the desire to work in any region.
          4. projdoha
            projdoha 13 June 2013 22: 09
            +6
            everyone should feed himself, and in a difficult moment support each other.
        2. kosmos84
          kosmos84 13 June 2013 11: 00
          15
          sa
          Quote: Sukhov
          Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia. The goal is the collapse of Russia.

          the most competent koment good
          Quote: Sukhov
          Another slogan I personally like is enough to feed the West!

          to point hi
          1. Kadet_KRAK
            Kadet_KRAK 13 June 2013 11: 45
            +3
            I fully support the comments of Comrade. Sukhova.
        3. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 13 June 2013 13: 10
          +1
          Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia. The goal is the collapse of Russia.
          - Slave psychology in any case, if the parasites are ready to feed!
        4. Very old
          Very old 13 June 2013 18: 33
          0
          Sukhov, there is a reason in your judgment. It remains to ask: when stop asking?
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 13 June 2013 18: 53
            0
            Quote: Very old
            Sukhov, there is a reason in your judgment. It remains to ask: when stop asking?

            I'm from the Don.
            Neither I, nor my ancestors ever, nor asked anything from anyone.
            If it was necessary, they just took it.
            hi
        5. viach
          viach 18 June 2013 20: 36
          +1
          Oh, what bad words you want to say in response! In your opinion, bad Nedagestani uncles receive federal money and direct this money past Dagestan? And they don't settle in Dagestan pockets? If it were so, the "good" (in your opinion) people have long gone mad from hunger and would have gone out into the street for a piece of bread! Officials make money and feed everyone so that idlers make up the bulk of the Dag!
        6. theadenter
          theadenter 18 June 2013 23: 08
          0
          It can be said simply - villains can be seen per kilometer, but they simply don’t consider good people.
      2. Gooch
        Gooch 13 June 2013 10: 25
        12
        Quote: krasin
        And Caucasians are proud people, neither conscience nor pride beggars!

        You are interesting people, do you think there people buy a new Mercedes every six months? And does Gianfranco Janelli personally make out the home interior for them? Clothes fly to fly to Milan and Paris, and eat purely black caviar and delicacies.
        They themselves put some garbage at the head of the regions, which 90% hang out in their pockets, and then they are surprised, it turns out that Caucasians are eating you.

        He is friends with Ramzanka Dyrov almost in a hickey of GDP, and he is a poor unfortunate man who knows where to get the money, buy a watch for Serezha Zverev, a roofing felon Aifonchik Tine Kandelaki, a roofing felts Hatka Derara Jepardieu, and you can’t get out of a coma, some kind of spherical Caucasians in a vacuum with gold toilets and phantoms trying to see

      3. z-exit
        z-exit 13 June 2013 11: 01
        +3
        Quote: krasin
        This is clear to every sane rosian! The Caucasus sits and hangs its legs

        Yes you. We will not finance, they will be financed by the UAE and Qatar. In the end, it will cost more. Therefore, here you need to think three more times before, and perhaps even increase funding until all the clergy have exploded there ...
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 13 June 2013 11: 30
          +1
          Quote: z-exit
          Yes you. We will not finance, they will be financed by the UAE and Qatar. In the end, it will cost more. Therefore, here you need to think three more times before, and perhaps even increase funding until all the clergy have exploded there ...

          Financing, the concept is loose, if you invest, then this is only a plus, it is only necessary to promote this
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 June 2013 15: 52
          -2
          Quote: z-exit
          Yes you. We will not finance, the UAE and Qatar will finance them

          interesting)))
          Russia seems to be a sovereign country !!!
          and so the whole world dreams of foreign investment, and you are afraid!
          I do not understand!
          1. z-exit
            z-exit 13 June 2013 17: 58
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            interesting))) Russia seems to be a sovereign country !!! and so the whole world dreams of foreign investment, but you are afraid! I don’t understand!


            And why do we need foreign investment from Qatar and the Emirates? What is there to develop in this Caucasus? Not science !? So we have our Chechen scientists in full)))
        3. Barabas
          Barabas 13 June 2013 16: 09
          +4
          Kindergarten! By God! today you finance one teip, tomorrow there is no one to finance another in a year! no need to demonize the Caucasus! Great Stalin solved the problem of the Caucasus in a week! no political will! and there is no Will because of the "Stabilization Fund" bullygiven to good uncle Sam!
        4. Petrovich
          Petrovich 13 June 2013 19: 32
          0
          The question is not posed correctly: financing as a form of repayment, but we must think about thoughtful investment.
      4. Nitup
        Nitup 13 June 2013 11: 40
        +6
        Quote: krasin
        And Caucasians are proud people, neither conscience nor pride beggars!

        The common people for the most part receive nothing from the Fed. center, nor from the republic. There is no work, so everyone is forced to engage in trade, some agricultural, someone has a small business. Of course, many for bribes make themselves some kind of benefits or disability and receive a pension, but this is not so often.
      5. viach
        viach 18 June 2013 20: 25
        0
        Which end woke up? They burned, pulled out the outstretched hand. Wait, they lick and sit on the new end, and, as before, the hand is extended, and they will be fed again ...
    2. rus9875
      rus9875 13 June 2013 09: 00
      14
      In your opinion, this applies only to the Caucasus? Of those subsidies that go to the Caucasus, and not only there, most are rolled back to Moscow
      1. avt
        avt 13 June 2013 09: 50
        +6
        Quote: rus9875
        In your opinion, this applies only to the Caucasus? Of those subsidies that go to the Caucasus, and not only there, most are rolled back to Moscow

        Suppose Moscow in this case is a transit center for receiving cash and transferring it to offshore, remember the action in Domodedovo to intercept cash, we drove cars. And actually, what did you want after Boris and Gaidarovsky to fight - will the market regulate everything? request Well, was it really not clear from the Chechen memos under Dudayev that the action was carried out at the central bank? So, the advice notes came from the rebellious Chechnya from the post office and the near-minded bankers to the Moscow Chechens gave cash without checking? Well, now the opposite, but the same scheme - electronic budget money to the region and cash back, well, continue to pay attention to offshore, plus walrus on the game of the exchange rate. That is, a lot of rubles have appeared - we are increasing the exchange rate, we have a percentage from the exchange and vice versa. Do you naively believe that the rate as it jumps under the influence of the global conjuncture? laughing It is necessary to check and wool ALL SUBSIDIARY REGIONS for fraudulent activities with budget funds and see when they left and when they arrived. But we are not 37 years old, and DAM is demanding concessions for economic crimes, although it would be very interesting to ask him and Dvorkovich for resorts and MRSKA Caucasus. But maybe he either didn’t know anything or just an honest man laughing And yet, each such action has its own personal hero, not some general type of Dagestan, Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc. And it’s quite specific, sometimes as part of an organized group, popularly called a gang.
      2. dmitrich
        dmitrich 13 June 2013 10: 30
        +1
        and Moscow does not eat on the money of the regions.
        1. avt
          avt 13 June 2013 10: 49
          +6
          Quote: Dmitry
          and Moscow does not eat on the money of the regions.

          For those especially offended by the "fattening Muscovites" I will explain again. The scheme of withdrawing budget funds into the shadows is impossible without the participation of the REGIONAL ELITE The collected tax funds from the budget are not transferred from Moscow to the offshore just like that, they are "laundered" since the time of Chechen advice notes in the regions , here of the last brazen is the restoration of South Ossetia and, in fact, the resorts of the Caucasus, plus Dagestan, the rest sit quietly, do not bullshit, and only further on the way back to the offshore, these are only large companies immediately through their daughters into the offshore are driving profit by turning a little at the place registration of the central office, for which, in fact, Khodorkovsky was hooked when he got into impudent politics. This is if it is meek and popular. So if there was political will, then it was necessary to go along the entire chain and the evidence base should be collected from REGIONS, sometimes subsidized, so that for the top floor was not otmazyvayutsya on the principle of Yeltsin - "God knows where the money goes there." Always otmazyvayutsya - we gave a transfer [and at the end of the financial year when you don’t have time to do anything with money, just cash it out}, and you’re going somewhere. And in Moscow, to begin with, comb through who and how many of the regional apartments bought, they don’t buy less than three out of greed, so twist it on the spot later.
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 13 June 2013 12: 20
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry
          and Moscow does not eat on the money of the regions.

          This statement or malicious question?
          good
          For example:
          And Moscow, not for money whether regions fattening?
          wassat
          1. Very old
            Very old 13 June 2013 18: 46
            0
            Sukhov, do not argue with him. Surely a Muscovite
    3. alexkross83
      alexkross83 13 June 2013 11: 08
      +2
      Instead of the slogan "Stop feeding the Caucasus" it was necessary to say from the beginning "... stop feeding Amirov and his relatives .."
    4. chaushevski
      chaushevski 13 June 2013 12: 40
      +2
      Mafia closes its eyes, Dagestan opens its eyes
    5. honest jew
      honest jew 13 June 2013 13: 42
      -11 qualifying.
      Is it weak for the Kremlin to twist Kadyrov’s flippers with his gang?
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 13 June 2013 14: 26
        +9
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Is it weak for the Kremlin to twist Kadyrov’s flippers with his gang?

        Kadyrov is his own.
        If only because in fact, and not in words, it defends Russia's interests.
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 13 June 2013 14: 40
          -6
          Quote: Sukhov
          Kadyrov is his own.
          If only because in fact, and not in words, it defends Russia's interests.

          This is not called advocacy, but political prostitution.
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 13 June 2013 19: 46
            +4
            Quote: Gooch
            This is not called advocacy, but political prostitution.

            I do not know your concepts about good and evil, but in my personal opinion:
            those who unleashed a civil war are dirtier than the dirtiest prostitutes.
            But to return to dialogue, to restore order at home, to expel aliens from their land, to restrain their own people is a sacred work worthy of a real man.
            yes
            Unleashing wars - villains,
            Those who finish them are worthy of respect, at least.
            hi
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 June 2013 15: 54
          +3
          Quote: Sukhov
          Kadyrov is his own.
          If only because in fact, and not in words, it defends Russia's interests.

          I agree, he did more for Russia than many generals!
          1. Barabas
            Barabas 13 June 2013 16: 19
            0
            tady question? who is being taught at the Academy? and what will the generals do in case of
            serious war? again justified by the surprise attack? the need to lure the enemy for a prepared strike?
        3. Very old
          Very old 13 June 2013 18: 51
          +1
          Sukhov, one more plus for you
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 13 June 2013 20: 00
            0
            Quote: Very old
            Sukhov, one more plus for you

            Thank...
            drinks
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 13 June 2013 15: 02
        +2
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Is it weak for the Kremlin to twist Kadyrov’s flippers with his gang?

        You can’t buy us weak!
      3. Very old
        Very old 13 June 2013 18: 49
        0
        From a series of short jokes your username
      4. xan
        xan 14 June 2013 00: 36
        0
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Is it weak for the Kremlin to twist Kadyrov’s flippers with his gang?

        you yourself can answer your question, Jew?
        Burned cynics and traders are sitting in the Kremlin; personally, I have no doubt that if it is profitable to remove and not leave, they will remove it. Although the elder Kadyrov was more necessary for Russia, because he was much smarter and wiser than the younger. The younger Kadyrov understands this, he has no illusions, so he is trying to the best of intelligence for Moscow.
  2. rus9875
    rus9875 13 June 2013 08: 47
    23
    In recent years, there has been a war in Dagestan against corrupt officials and law enforcement officials. And the increase in the number of Wahhabis in the Caucasus is due to the fact that the preachers of this movement are not connected with the local authorities - they have a big propaganda trump card - they say - look how your leaders live, your imams and mullahs, what kind of cars they drive, what kind of palaces they build and how you live. And young people, who for the most part have no work or money, follow them. I agree with the author in almost everything you need to clarify - not all Dagestanis live for federal subsidies account This money simply doesn’t reach them - those in power share it and a large part goes back to Moscow as kickbacks. If the federal government does not limit itself to a one-time demonstration campaign and can really clear the local government of impudent thieves, then the whole population will support it and not only in Dagestan but also in all other subjects of the federation the feudal lords will not fight, but there are not so many of them themselves. If the people believe that there is justice in the world, they will pray for the one who was able to restore order
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 13 June 2013 10: 40
      +7
      Quote: rus9875
      In Dagestan, in recent years there has been a war against corrupt officials and law enforcement officials

      I get the impression that Russia is in a state of war and that a front line passes through the territory of the Caucasus. In the Caucasus, the issue of the integrity of Russia and its future is being resolved. Moscow will be able to restore order - it will be easier further.
      1. Gooch
        Gooch 13 June 2013 10: 55
        -2
        Quote: Sukhov
        I get the impression that Russia is in a state of war and that a front line passes through the territory of the Caucasus. In the Caucasus, the issue of the integrity of Russia and its future is being resolved. Moscow will be able to restore order - it will be easier further.

        Moscow would bring order to itself, then take on other regions
        1. Suhov
          Suhov 13 June 2013 11: 03
          +6
          Quote: Gooch
          Moscow would bring order to itself, then take on other regions

          What do you think you are offering?
          fool
          It is highly likely that while Moscow will restore order in Moscow, the territory of Russia will decrease to the size of the Moscow Ring Road.
          belay
          Procrastination is like death!
          soldier
          With respect!
          hi
          1. Gooch
            Gooch 13 June 2013 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Sukhov
            What do you think you are offering?

            There is such a sinner, sometimes I think

            It is highly likely that while Moscow will restore order in Moscow, the territory of Russia will decrease to the size of the Moscow Ring Road.

            From such a dull, wooden oak centralization, Russia is more likely to fall apart when every bunch has to be coordinated with the "center"
            1. Suhov
              Suhov 13 June 2013 12: 24
              +2
              Quote: Gooch
              From such a dumb, wooden oak centralization, Russia is more likely to fall apart when every bunch falls coordinate with the "center"

              The disadvantage is the continuation of dignity.
            2. ultra
              ultra 13 June 2013 13: 00
              +2
              Quote: Gooch
              From such a dumb, wooden oak centralization,

              I also think that this is not good! But unfortunately there is no alternative yet! But this does not mean that the system does not need to be improved!
            3. avt
              avt 13 June 2013 17: 06
              +3
              Quote: Gooch
              From such a dull, wooden oak centralization, Russia is more likely to fall apart when every bunch has to be coordinated with the "center"

              The reverse side of your wishes is Chechnya from the time of Dudayev before the war, moreover, with an international airport not controlled by the central authorities. That is why the topic of advises came up, stupidly drove to Chechnya and taken to the right place, well, and then, crying for the restoration of the constitutional order, which also happened, we cleared ALL the ends and the last real witness of scams, who could open the beak and testify, the Angles jammed to death in London, so that he wouldn’t talk too much when he was going to Russia. That’s why Birch doesn’t make any noise and no one howls like Magnitsky. And Kadyrov did well, if only for controlling the money that Allah Vladimirovich gives him, so cramped with aluminum he left Abramov, whom he was appointed prime minister, that he had to be beaten up under a car accident and Serezhenka thanked Ramzan for taking care of his health on the first TV channel from the hospital bed laughing
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              2. Semurg
                Semurg 13 June 2013 22: 25
                0
                Quote: avt
                Quote: Gooch
                From such a dull, wooden oak centralization, Russia is more likely to fall apart when every bunch has to be coordinated with the "center"

                The reverse side of your wishes is Chechnya from the time of Dudayev before the war, moreover, with an international airport not controlled by the central authorities. That is why the topic of advises came up, stupidly drove to Chechnya and taken to the right place, well, and then, crying for the restoration of the constitutional order, which also happened, we cleared ALL the ends and the last real witness of scams, who could open the beak and testify, the Angles jammed to death in London, so that he wouldn’t talk too much when he was going to Russia. That’s why Birch doesn’t make any noise and no one howls like Magnitsky. And Kadyrov did well, if only for controlling the money that Allah Vladimirovich gives him, so cramped with aluminum he left Abramov, whom he was appointed prime minister, that he had to be beaten up under a car accident and Serezhenka thanked Ramzan for taking care of his health on the first TV channel from the hospital bed laughing

                Kadyrov is a real godfather not the x-th common fund.
                1. Suhov
                  Suhov 13 June 2013 23: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Semurg
                  Kadyrov is a real godfather not the x-th common fund.

                  A rat, she is both in prison and in the wild - a rat.
                  Most social groups have the same concept of honor.
                  True, there are certain differences:
                  For example, in ways and means of punishing the perpetrators ...
                  wassat
        2. Fin
          Fin 13 June 2013 16: 24
          +3
          Quote: Gooch

          Moscow would bring order to itself, then take on other regions

          In your opinion, let's start from Moscow, then Peter, etc., and even better, we will develop a plan when and in which regions we will put things in order, we will confirm it with Putin, we will bring it to controlled entities, let them prepare.
          They did everything right, started (I hope they don’t stop) from the most problematic region. Terrorism and crime rolls over.
      2. Barabas
        Barabas 13 June 2013 16: 28
        0
        Moscow will not be able, Comrade Sukhov. for the front line does not pass through the Caucasus, but through the office of the official! he (the official) on the one hand is the people on the other! he has children in London and New York, the people in
        the gateway from disorder perishes.
        1. Suhov
          Suhov 13 June 2013 17: 20
          -1
          Quote: Drum
          Moscow will not be able, Comrade Sukhov. for the front line does not go through the Caucasus, but through the office of the official! he (the official) on the one hand is the people on the other! he has children in London and New York, the people in the gateway die from disorder.

          The problem is formulated correctly. Its complexity is shown.
          hi
  3. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 13 June 2013 09: 10
    +3
    Quote: krasin
    Finally, they woke up! This is clear to every sane rosian! The Caucasus sits and hangs its legs. Only the Russian government is officially in no way, although they understand that this is so. They, with their dense clan formations, will not go far, so they will be with outstretched hands! And Caucasians are proud people, neither conscience nor pride beggars!

    Yes, the Caucasus bird is proud, until you kick, it will not fly!
  4. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 13 June 2013 09: 18
    12
    Well, nafik, this article opened my eyes straight, and nobody knew that the whole Caucasus is being fed by Orthodox Russia, and yet they still have the audacity to come to central Russia (by which they are fed) and act like pigs, and proclaim unthinkable speeches about secession. Yes, if you separate, the khan will come to you, first the Stone Age, civil strife, and the capture of the West (after which you will lie as a country, more likely as an appendicitis of the West or the Islamic Republic)!
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 13 June 2013 10: 18
      +2
      Well done, friend of AFONYA! He said well ... only at the end he drove a little wrong ... the "feudal" nobility of clans with the West do not sweat. DEMOCRACY will not allow them to live in the old way. They need the East with a feudal way of life! Where everything is sold, everything is bought, where bai (emir, khan) is his own master in the region where he bought himself power. So they will go to the creation of the Great Caliphate (Azerbaijan, Chechnya, Dagestan, Kabarda, Kalmykia, Karachais with ... and so on. This is from Russia) .... IF THEY DO NOT STOP IT IN TIME! There, in the Islamic Great Caliphate, this feudal elite will feel in favor.
    2. Zopuhhh
      Zopuhhh 13 June 2013 10: 39
      +1
      Apparently, they found oil or gas in the Ryazan or Moscow region ... But the men don’t know ...
  5. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 13 June 2013 09: 20
    20
    Indeed, with this potential, we are beggars. Thanks to our officials, who live in luxurious mansions, drive cars for $ 30 million, relax at least in Dubai .., with salaries of 70-XNUMX thousand. R. Special thanks to Moscow, which too often blinked its eyes, of course for worthy kickbacks ...
    1. tan0472
      tan0472 13 June 2013 10: 15
      0
      Why don't you say "thank you" to yourself? For silence. Or did you, an ordinary Dagestani, did not know or were happy that the money did not reach the people?
      1. hrych
        hrych 13 June 2013 10: 31
        +8
        There were people who were not silent, first of all decent journalists and, less often, from law enforcement agencies, they were so brutally killed. And Moscow, the capital including and the Caucasus, and if there is a will, then a vile disabled person was arrested and apparently order will be brought back from which a simple man will benefit first of all.
    2. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson 13 June 2013 10: 52
      11
      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
      Special thanks to Moscow,

      There are some people to whom half of Russians want to say "thank you". Your Amirov is among them. The people of Dagestan have always been famous for abrasives and jewelers. I would also like to mention the minting and horse breeding. Where is it all now .. your old people only remember. You would urgently take over the knowledge so that you don't go away with it at all, and then - God help you, you will beat it off a hundredfold.
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 13 June 2013 13: 24
      +4
      I think we can all say a similar "thank you" to most of our officials. Much is true not only in relation to Dagestan.
      1. Sinbad
        Sinbad 13 June 2013 14: 56
        +2
        Bureaucrats run the show. This is true for almost any region of Russia. I would like to believe in the best, but for too long the "official" and the "people" stood on opposite sides of the "barricade."
  6. Tartary
    Tartary 13 June 2013 09: 49
    10
    Hello, brother!

    I am glad that you are not missing topics about the Caucasus. Your good opinion is very important, at least for me personally ...
    God grant in Dagestan everything will be calm and dignified. I really hope for it...
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 13 June 2013 10: 03
      +8
      Hello my friend! Thank you for your wishes. A simple Dagestan wants to just work and get a predictable benefit for this.
      1. itkul
        itkul 13 June 2013 11: 33
        +3
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        A simple Dagestan wants to just work and get a predictable benefit for this.


        If you wanted to work, you wouldn’t import Russian slaves

        http://pn14.info/?p=134176&page=2

        We are at a loss for the legibility of the allegedly unemployed and really subsidized Dagestan. Ivan is right, 95% of the workers here are Russians. As in two dozen other factories, where we visited with the inspection. People are different. There are homeless people with dull faces, there are alcoholics who have drunk their housing. But the majority, 80 percent, contrary to stereotypes, do not look like a lousy lesson or scourges. Ordinary, normal, good men from the Russian province - the salt of our land. And here they are, in fact, voluntary slaves.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 13 June 2013 12: 06
          +4
          Why, if a laborer, a homeless man who did not give a damn about howling his life turned out to be Russian, then he is surely a slave! And if the same homeless peasant and a bukharik lying around under a fence turn out to be an Avar or a Kumyk, then all this is worth it! Why? There are no slaves! Anyone can borrow a passer-by phone and call the FSB, call relatives or simply dial a helpline! Tell a passerby that he is being held forcibly! This is afraid to lower the brakes !!!
          1. RPD
            RPD 13 June 2013 12: 10
            0
            well, a good-looking passerby brother and brother of the owner of a brick factory
          2. ultra
            ultra 13 June 2013 13: 06
            +1
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            call relatives or just dial the helpline!

            Usually these are people who are not needed by relatives first of all! Yes, and they are not literally slaves, they work for a roof over their heads and a glass of vodka!
          3. itkul
            itkul 13 June 2013 14: 28
            0
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            Why, if a laborer, a homeless man who did not give a damn about howling his life turned out to be Russian, then he is surely a slave! And if the same homeless peasant and bukharik wallowing under the fence turn out to be Avars or Kumyks


            Is it really the case, Russian or non-Russian, you better explain why the locals do not want to work at these factories, or is it not the business of a horseman to work
        2. ultra
          ultra 13 June 2013 13: 04
          +4
          Quote: itkul
          If you wanted to work, you wouldn’t import Russian slaves

          Unfortunately, this is not only in Dagestan! But also in the completely Russian Lipetsk region! He himself was repeatedly witnessed!
          1. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 13 June 2013 14: 27
            +1
            This question still needs to be considered by employers, why are there no slaves in Belarus, no in Ukraine, no in the Baltic states ...? Although alcoholics and homeless people are everywhere.
            Perhaps these are historical roots that may explain the presence of slaves / migrant workers in a region with huge unemployment.
        3. Petrovich
          Petrovich 13 June 2013 19: 53
          0
          What do normal men do there if they have no problems with employment at home?
  7. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 13 June 2013 09: 56
    +2
    I can’t add a picture with the schedule for financing the federal districts of the Russian Federation. According to this schedule, the North-Caucasian Federal District is in the last place in financing, this is infa from the Official Federal website.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 13 June 2013 10: 08
      +3
      Sasha, it will be more honest if we calculate the subsidies, based on per capita terms.
  8. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 13 June 2013 09: 59
    0
    [media = http: //www.bus.gov.ru/public/home.html]
    1. Explore
      Explore 13 June 2013 10: 57
      +4
      Here is a picture. In general, you are right, but in the North Caucasus Federal District the worst with the development of subsidies. More precisely, they are mastered in the only way known to them - theft ...
  9. omsbon
    omsbon 13 June 2013 10: 00
    10
    Moscow "shovel" hit the criminal think tank, then there is no one to arrange unrest.
    In fact, all this could and should have been done earlier, without waiting for the cancer to grow, it was swollen, but on the other hand it was better late than never.
    I would like to wish Ramadan Abdulatipov health and success!
  10. creak
    creak 13 June 2013 10: 08
    +4
    What about slaves in brick factories? It is high time to bring to life these feudal lords who are living on our money.
  11. My address
    My address 13 June 2013 10: 08
    +6
    Generally A. Volodin well done. He writes briefly, clearly, interesting. It is felt that: the intellect is much higher than the stool, a decent education, outlook.
  12. Oleg1986
    Oleg1986 13 June 2013 10: 17
    +4
    May God give Ramazan Gadzhimuradovich to bring the matter to mind. As for subsidized regions, the size of aid per capita is now not the highest in the Caucasus. Another thing is that in the North the money goes to help in the struggle against difficult conditions, and to the south - to stabilize the situation. And it is very good that work is underway to revive production (rather, rather, agriculture) there. These are huge territories by European standards, where you can grow heat-loving fruit varieties, for example. Almost Italy is close by, and in no way is it used.
  13. Grbear
    Grbear 13 June 2013 10: 26
    +6
    In any case, the arrest of the mayor of Makhachkala and his delivery to Moscow (out of harm's way) is an event for the entire Caucasus and not only. The center begins to "press" the elite of its own state apparatus, which has become more than just a brake. She became an ardent opponent of any development of territories and an analogue of terrorism.

    Abdulatipov is one of the few federal leaders who understands and recognizes the importance of the republic's joining Russia at the level of state thinking, and not from the point of view of "milking, receiving or Allah gives." It will be a pity if the "elite" will solve this problem in the usual way.
  14. Yeraz
    Yeraz 13 June 2013 10: 36
    +3
    Well, I don’t know if he will succeed, the system in Dagestan is very infected.
    1. hrych
      hrych 13 June 2013 10: 46
      +5
      Here they hit on the head. Why chop tentacles from an octopus? The calculation is correct, and the people will support it.
  15. fenix57
    fenix57 13 June 2013 10: 55
    +2
    Quote: GrBear
    In any case, the arrest of the mayor of Makhachkala and his delivery to Moscow (out of harm's way) is an event for the entire Caucasus and not only. The center begins to "press" the elite of its own state apparatus, which has become more than just a brake. She became an ardent opponent of any development of territories and an analogue of terrorism.

    I don’t think to express it! Plus you +. hi Bring it all to the end - it will be so good!
  16. tegezen
    tegezen 13 June 2013 11: 05
    +8
    In general, Dagestanis are hardworking people. For example, Dagestan men's shoes that are sewn in large numbers in Makhachkala in small family factories successfully compete with Turkish and Chinese shoes. Solid beautiful made of genuine leather. In the Russian wholesale market, Makhachkala shoes are actively crowding out China. I tell you as a specialist in this matter. Dagestan and the Caucasus can easily replace both Turkey and China in the production of consumer goods.
    1. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 13 June 2013 11: 55
      +7
      You are right, our shoes are not bad. I noticed a positive trend in the comments .. among a considerable number of "worn-out records" like "Caucasians do not work", "there are all bandits and parasites", the number of sober, thinking and understanding people has increased. Dagestanis have never been beggars, we are one of the most hardworking peoples in the Caucasus. Dagestanis have always been excellent masons, the best gunsmiths in the Caucasus were also in Dagestan (auls of Amuzgi, Kubachi, etc.), artistic metal notching on wood (Untsukul), ceramics (Balkhar), Andean burqas - the best in the Caucasus, Tabasaran carpets and many more what, so do not la-la about the Dagestanis who do not know how to work. It is not the fault of the people that the corrupt corrupt federal and local authorities put the republic on a subsidized needle.
      See what beautiful craftsmen make craftsmen in Dagestan:
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 13 June 2013 22: 34
        +3
        Quote: Lakkuchu
        Agestans have never been beggars, we are one of the most hardworking peoples in the Caucasus. Dagestanis have always been excellent masons, the best gunsmiths in the Caucasus were also in Dagestan (Amuzgi aul, Kubachi, etc.), wood notches (Untsukul), ceramics (Balkhar), Andean burka - the best in the Caucasus, Tabasaran carpets and many more Why, so don’t la la about Dagestanis who do not know how to work.

        I completely agree. I am fond of ethnography a bit, and constantly admire Dagestani products. Kazakhs rest, well, except that in silver jewelry, Kazakhs are not inferior. And in all other respects, Dagestanis do things with scrupulousness and amazing artistic taste. Kazakhs are usually satisfied with the practicality of the manufactured thing, paying little attention to aesthetic beauty. Dagestanis are able to combine these qualities.
    2. ultra
      ultra 13 June 2013 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: tegezen
      Dagestan and the Caucasus can easily replace both Turkey and China in the production of consumer goods.

      And also fruits and vegetables! It's time to stop eating Turkish plastic!
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 13 June 2013 20: 18
        +1
        Quote: ultra
        And also fruits and vegetables! It's time to stop eating Turkish plastic!

        And Dagestan wrestlers at the Olympics, and a football commentator?
        1. xan
          xan 14 June 2013 00: 51
          +2
          Quote: Sukhov
          and a football commentator?

          don't say it!
          at least buy a plate for the sake of this commentator.
          In the army, Dagestanis were subordinate, excellent guys, you clearly set the feasible task - they will.
          Now I work with a Caucasians on a civilian, two Dagestanis, all kinds of different things, do not grab stars from the sky, but there’s practically no cunning and meanness.
  17. optimist
    optimist 13 June 2013 11: 06
    +6
    Let the author's words be in the ears of God! It's time to call a spade a spade: Moscow pays the Caucasus not subsidies, but a Tribute !!! To sit relatively quietly. And if a real "cleansing" of the local clans begins, the Third Caucasian one is guaranteed! Over the past 25 years, several generations of "outlaws" have grown up in the Caucasus, who consider war and trade to be their true occupations. Or service in the state. organs. The worst thing is that many of the Ministry of Internal Affairs-shnye Universities are the responsibility of these "citizens"! am
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 13 June 2013 12: 00
      +2
      Nurillozoda Mahibudlo.
      Gadia Petrovich Khrenova nervously smokes on the sidelines. Roar with Galustyan did not even think of such a thing even with a hangover ...
      And the list is significant. If I understand anything in life, then St. Petersburg University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a branch of the Makhachkala (or Baku) vocational school for the preparation of plumbers.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 13 June 2013 15: 57
        +2
        Quote: IRBIS
        Nurillozoda Mahibudlo ...

        lol Is that Uzbek or Tajik ?? Guys from the SA help)))
        Quote: IRBIS
        And the list is significant. If I understand anything in life, then St. Petersburg University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a branch of the Makhachkala (or Baku) vocational school for the preparation of plumbers.

        There are a lot of Caucasians. The leaders are Azerbaijanis, then the rest come.
        It was curious when someone shouted Ali in the corridor sometimes 4 people turned around at the same time))
        In St. Petersburg, at least 1 Azerbaijani is in each department.
        And at the university, the assistant to the chief of the university is Azerbaijani and there are a lot of teachers. But these people of the Soviet glow and do not regret their own, which is very good, at least they drive something into the head.
        And so in the university there is an unofficial mafia of immigrants from Azerbaijan - these are people of different nationalities.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 June 2013 16: 01
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          In St. Petersburg

          You graduated from this university ??))))
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 13 June 2013 16: 38
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Quote: Yeraz
            In St. Petersburg

            You graduated from this university ??))))

            Yes)) Azerbaijanis were not only in the Faculty of Psychology, about 3 in the last courses and they entered there)))
    2. ultra
      ultra 13 June 2013 13: 11
      +2
      The overwhelming number in the list are Azerbaijanis !!!
      1. optimist
        optimist 13 June 2013 14: 56
        +5
        What's the difference? For Caucasians, too, everything is Russian: both Ukrainians and Belarusians. Once I had to visit the Rostov Ministry of Internal Affairs-shnom university: almost not a single Slavic person. So another 3-4 years and the Russians will be "pressed" absolutely legally ..
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 13 June 2013 13: 37
      +3
      Well, if such a ratio in the Ministry of Internal Affairs comes completely, then a large Russian-speaking organized crime group will arise, which will be supported by the overwhelming majority of the population. For everyone knows the North Caucasian clan "justice".
  18. RPD
    RPD 13 June 2013 11: 24
    +2
    to remind "cotton business" chtol? an investigation team from all over the union went to investigate, unseen by the local clans. and what the result was, it's a pity it's late. "The Cotton Case is a collective name for a series of criminal cases on economic and corruption abuses in the Uzbek SSR, which were investigated in the late 1970s - 1980s. It caused a great public outcry in the USSR.
    The name "Cotton Business" is not entirely accurate, since abuses and registrations in the cotton industry of Uzbekistan are only one of the components of anti-corruption investigations that were being carried out in Uzbekistan at that time. In total, 800 criminal cases were initiated, in which more than 4 thousand people were sentenced to various terms of imprisonment, accused of postscripting, bribery and embezzlement, and not all of them were directly related to the cotton industry. [1] "
    "A special team of investigators was urgently created, which mainly consisted of Investigators for Especially Important Cases under the Prosecutors of the Union or Autonomous Republics or Regions."
  19. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 13 June 2013 11: 38
    +1
    Subsidies from the federal budget are received by 70 subjects of the Russian Federation out of 83, i.e. 84% of all regions of Russia are in the unprofitable zone. They live 74,2% of the population, they cover 87% of the state.
    Non-subsidized regions are Moscow, St. Petersburg, Tatarstan, Perm Territory, Vologda, Leningrad, Lipetsk, Samara, Sverdlovsk, Tyumen Regions, Nenets, Khanty-Mansiysk and Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Districts.
    1. RPD
      RPD 13 June 2013 11: 45
      0
      a source? "They are home to 74,2% of the country's population, they cover 87% of the state's territory." that's bullshit
      1. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 13 June 2013 13: 39
        0
        The table shows the source, open our eyes and look carefully - www.kapital-rus.ru
        The data are literally taken from the article "Financial insolvency of regions and inter-budgetary relations". Everything is laid out on the shelves there. If there is other data, please share.
        1. RPD
          RPD 13 June 2013 14: 05
          +2
          "Far Eastern Federal District (FEFD) with the maximum specific size of subsidies: Kamchatka Territory - 65008,94 rubles / person, Magadan Region - 52746,68 rubles / person, the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia) - 41285,58 rubles / person ., Chukotka Autonomous Okrug - 34849,8 rubles / person. Such a clear concentric model of subsidization of the Russian regions also cannot but alarm."
          from such pearls it is already nagging, hell with him with Dagestan. so as not to compare Yakutia with Haiti ?????? population of the Far Eastern Federal District - According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the population of the okrug is 6 [251] people. (496). Population density - 1,01 people / km2 (2013). SKFO population - According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the population of the okrug is 9 540 758 [16] people. (2013). Population density - 55,98 people/ km2 (2013). garbage your analytics
  20. cartridge
    cartridge 13 June 2013 11: 50
    +3
    For the first time in the history of the Republic of Dagestan within the Russian Federation (since the collapse of the USSR), the head of this republic declares that the region is fed from the hands of the Ryazan peasant.


    And this is the holy true truth !!!
  21. olegff68
    olegff68 13 June 2013 11: 51
    +2
    It’s just that power is again trampling on the same rake !!!
    Under the USSR, a middle-peasant fed half of the planet, and he stood waist-deep in manure - no roads, no gas .... while in the Union republics everything was fine with this issue - and good roads to villages and towns, and gasification. And now this peasant, feeding the half of the country, is already bending up to his waist in manure without roads, without gas (or with expensive), and in Dagestan the springs are cut off the majors of cars because roads are everywhere and they are perfect.
    1. rus9875
      rus9875 13 June 2013 13: 52
      0
      is it when it is interesting, under the USSR, the peasant of the middle lane fed half of the planet "? Is it in those days when they bought 20-40 million tons of grain each year in the USA and Canada? Or now, when we buy 70% of food over the hill? And if not for Stavropol and the Krasnodar Territories (which, whatever one may say, are also the territory of the Caucasus), would they buy all 100%? And the subsidies from the budget to the middle lane go many times more than to the Caucasus and feed the whole of Russia, mainly Tyumen and Yakutia, nothing special from this not having
      1. olegff68
        olegff68 13 June 2013 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: rus9875
        it is when it is interesting, under the Soviet Union, the peasant of the middle lane fed half of the planet "? This is in those days when annually bought 20-40 million tons of grain in the United States and Canada?

        Before you spoil the air you need to be at least a little in the subject !!!
        In the USA and Canada they bought feed grain because It was more profitable to sell your own - of the highest quality than to feed, while the country was and is one of the leaders in the supply of grain !!!
        70% of the food bought over the hill in the 90s with their richest harvests by order of the Kremlin in order to kill their own farm. manufacturer !!!
        Under the USSR, in one Tambov (not counting the region), there were 3 large meat processing plants, whose products in the city no one saw - everything was exported, but military men in Africa saw it !!!
        Now one Chernozem region is ready to feed the whole country, but the same Moscow and large supermarket chains prefer to buy "over the hill" - although it is shnyaga, it is cheaper !!!
        1. kosmos84
          kosmos84 13 June 2013 16: 51
          +2
          Quote: olegff68
          Now one Chernozem region is ready to feed the whole country, but the same Moscow and large supermarket chains prefer to buy "over the hill" - although it is shnyaga, it is cheaper !!!

          and get cancer after that
      2. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 13 June 2013 16: 31
        +2
        yeah. I recently found out that our Samara region is the third in the country in oil production. So do you seriously think we are being paid extra for this?
    2. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 13 June 2013 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: olegff68
      .... while in the Union republics everything was normal with this issue - and good roads to villages and towns and gasification

      Fairy tales. In Soviet times, he lived in Turkmenistan in a small town, lousy roads and no natural gas. But now in this town there is gas and excellent roads.
      1. olegff68
        olegff68 13 June 2013 15: 01
        +2
        Quote: Lakkuchu
        Quote: olegff68
        .... while in the Union republics everything was normal with this issue - and good roads to villages and towns and gasification

        Fairy tales. In Soviet times, he lived in Turkmenistan in a small town, lousy roads and no natural gas. But now in this town there is gas and excellent roads.

        Not at all !!! I’m wrong only that I mentioned all the republics. (Turkmenistan is certainly not the Baltic states)
        For example, in the 70s in Kazakhstan, work began on connecting asphalt roads to villages with district centers, at the same time in the Tambov region began to pull roads from Tambov to district centers, the mass of villages and towns is not connected by roads to the outside world to this day !!! They (drogues) are not bad; they never existed at all, and those that remained are now in a terrible state.
        1. Lakkuchu
          Lakkuchu 13 June 2013 15: 19
          +2
          It seems to me that the Tambov roads miraculously turned into mansions of local bureaucracy. However, not only Tambov ... Recently showed the road of Saratov, this is something .. belay What can I say about the villages.
        2. Mairos
          Mairos 13 June 2013 18: 16
          +1
          Well .. in the USSR, in general, the "fad" was in domestic politics - the priority of national outskirts! As a result, the RSFSR received everything last. The tendency has continued even now, only unspoken and on a scale of Russia, all national republics have priority over "non-national" subjects.
  22. RPD
    RPD 13 June 2013 11: 54
    0
    they don’t work there, they earn money))))
  23. Karabin
    Karabin 13 June 2013 11: 58
    +3
    and the dynastic system of distribution of bureaucratic seats shook more than ever.

    Oh oh White envy envy your optimism. But take an interest in how bureaucratic seats are distributed in small cities and regional settlements of Russia. It’s not necessary to go to the Caucasus. Of course not on such a scale, but everywhere, blat.
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    1. RPD
      RPD 13 June 2013 12: 06
      -1
      tssts possible excesses
  25. gribnik777
    gribnik777 13 June 2013 13: 03
    +1
    or, God forbid, one day to get into a car bomb.


    But, after all, he will sit in it ...
  26. hramckov2012
    hramckov2012 13 June 2013 13: 58
    +2
    I rested in the same sanatorium with a police officer from Dagestan. corruption went so far that after blowing up their cars on the Svu and getting injured for a certificate of injury, they demanded 20 thousand
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 13 June 2013 14: 11
    0
    Something creeps in a vague doubt that you will break the butt with a whip: Abdulatipov alone cannot cope with the clan-criminal machine of parasites that have stuck to the budget. With our kind of "democracy" ... Here it is necessary to take a systematic approach, connect also a powerful "machine". The villains will find a weakness in the protection of the acting. President of Dagestan. Even if this did not happen ...
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 13 June 2013 14: 24
      +2
      So he is not alone. As we can see, Moscow is actively helping him: it sends military helicopters and FSB special forces when necessary. I heard that Abdulatipova is being guarded by the FSO, and the local was supposedly told that if someone touches Abdulatipov, it will not be sweet.
  28. Sars
    Sars 13 June 2013 14: 20
    +6
    From his business trips to Dagestan drew attention:
    - there is oil everywhere in Dagestan on the plain, but for some reason there is no production, although it would be possible to get away from subsidies;
    - Dagestanis are normal, hardworking people who are simply not allowed to live and work quietly.
    1. RPD
      RPD 13 June 2013 14: 25
      0
      whose production is not?
      In the Khasavyurt district of Dagestan, Interior Ministry operatives have identified an underground mini-oil refinery, the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of this republic said.
      According to experts, illegal entrepreneurship brought profit to the plant owner to the 55-year-old resident of Khasavyurt about 20 million rubles. He is currently detained and in custody.

      "During the inspection of the territory of the oil depot, 4900 tons of fuel oil were found in the tanks, as well as 44 tanks ready for shipment," the law enforcement agency said.

      The necessary materials have been collected on this fact, and the issue of bringing the detainee to criminal liability is being decided.
      1. Containers
        Containers 13 June 2013 22: 04
        0
        Even as they extract it, yeah. I crashed into an oil pipeline, and how the field clogged, how it gouged!
  29. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 13 June 2013 14: 31
    +1
    ... poor ... now we have to work ourselves to start. ... oh non-rubber, wait for a new replenishment from sunny Dagestan.
  30. dimon-media
    dimon-media 13 June 2013 16: 20
    +3
    ... and also in Dagestan they make excellent cognac and wine. drinks
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 13 June 2013 16: 33
      +1
      sorry doesn’t reach us ...
  31. RPD
    RPD 13 June 2013 16: 42
    +1
    One of the main problems of Dagestan cognacs is the huge number of fakes. What is characteristic, most of them are produced in the Dagestan Republic. Nobody will undertake to guarantee that the purchased bottle with the logo of the Kizlyar plant is truly original.

    everything comes darago
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 13 June 2013 22: 45
      +1
      It’s impossible to call something cognac. After all, it was the case I tried the real one. The French on the sidelines are fighting in hysterics ...
  32. kosmos84
    kosmos84 13 June 2013 16: 48
    +3
    for each terrorist attack, blow up the oil tower in sa or qatar angry and if there are victims of an oil storage facility ==== weakly of our power?
  33. z-exit
    z-exit 13 June 2013 18: 00
    0
    Quote: z-exit
    Quote: Yarbay
    interesting))) Russia seems to be a sovereign country !!! and so the whole world dreams of foreign investment, but you are afraid! I don’t understand!


    And why do we need foreign investment from Qatar and the Emirates? What will they develop there in this Caucasus? Not science !? So there it already is))) Chechen scientists are full)))
  34. individual
    individual 13 June 2013 18: 08
    +3
    The author A. Volodin in his publication once again confirmed that the Caucasus does not tolerate democratic games.
    Russia woke up from a dream and restores order in Dagestan.
    Wishso that this is just the beginning.
    Who doubts refer to General A.P. Ermolov - the conqueror of the Caucasus.
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 13 June 2013 21: 43
      +2
      Quote: individ
      Russia woke up from a dream and restores order in Dagestan.
      We wish this was only the beginning.
      Who in doubt, contact General A.P. Ermolov - the conqueror of the Caucasus.


      "The condescension in the eyes of Asians is a sign of weakness, and I’m right of philanthropy I am strictly inexorable.
      One execution will save hundreds of Russians from death and thousands of Muslims from treason. ”
      Alexey Petrovich Ermolov
  35. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 13 June 2013 19: 31
    +2
    Sukhov SU
    The overwhelming majority of Dagestanis are normal people who did not see federal money in their eyes just because they did not reach them.

    So that's why maybe these two slogans
    hi
    Enough to feed the Caucasus - a provocative slogan and is slipped by the enemies of Russia. The goal is the collapse of Russia.
    No.
    Another slogan I personally like is enough to feed the West!
    yes

    ... COMBINE ?!
    Only from naked calls, as I look, no sense! Need
    iron hand
    that in spite of the "persons" she was brought to justice to the fullest extent of the law, and that theft on a state scale would be regarded as an economic sabotage, as a betrayal!
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 13 June 2013 19: 51
      +2
      Something I did not understand, someone is against that The vast majority of Dagestanis are normal people who have never seen federal money? Or is it wrong to not feed the Caucasus and the West? They need feed? And that the thieves should be prosecuted is also wrong? Obviously "minus" - THIEF!
  36. Muar
    Muar 13 June 2013 20: 26
    -1
    It’s not very right to say that Dagestan lives off from subsidies from other regions, in fact, Dagestan can provide for itself completely, only by selling one electricity that Moscow sells to neighboring countries, I’m not even talking about Caspian oil, and if they come to Dagestan at least some law and order, you can develop its colossal potential, which is much higher than that of Sochi. And in such conditions is not only Dagestan, but almost all other regions that have to sacrifice their own, for the development of a common country. And Putin does not when the Caucasus, and especially Dagestan, will not develop, the Russians will not forgive him, and why develop it, if 99% of the inhabitants vote for it anyway
    1. RPD
      RPD 13 June 2013 20: 33
      +1
      It’s not very correct to say that Dagestan lives off from subsidies of other regions, in fact, Dagestan can
      ...... as we say so
      but almost all other regions that have to sacrifice their own, for the sake of developing a common country
      receiving subsidies is not a victim of Dagestan
      And Putin will not only when he will not develop the Caucasus, and especially Dagestan, the Russians will not forgive him for that, and why develop it, if 99% of the residents vote for it anyway
      Well, still it would be CHANGEABLE for the Russians to blame, but the Dagestanis are stealing
      1. Muar
        Muar 13 June 2013 22: 50
        +1
        You didn’t understand everything at all, or understood the way you want to see it, and it’s not your fault, but the fault of those who inspired you, and who do not blame the Russians as a nation, and who do not have the right to blame anyone either a nation, and it seems to me this applies to everyone
        1. RPD
          RPD 13 June 2013 23: 24
          0
          it means simply the difficulties of translation ?????? 7
          And Putin, not when he will not develop the Caucasus, and especially Dagestan, the Russians will not forgive him,
          if it is not present then what ????????
          1. Muar
            Muar 14 June 2013 00: 15
            0
            This is Putin IMHO)), but this is what that part of the truth is, because many Russians saw, or inspired, and showed only one side, and from this they already consider all Dagestanis sheep and monkeys, although this does not justify such people, if you don’t like someone, say it to him personally, and don’t insult his nation or place of origin
            1. RPD
              RPD 14 June 2013 00: 23
              0
              I would not like to slip into "myself", but the inscriptions "Dagestan" on the backs of colleagues were probably written by highly moral supermen.
              1. Muar
                Muar 14 June 2013 00: 57
                0
                Indeed it is horror !! fascists are resting! but the fact that, somewhere out there, every day they rape little children, kill grandfathers and grandmothers, for the sake of a penny, thousands of murders are committed, these are all trifles, only the inscription "Dagestan" on the backs of colleagues haunts, because this is not a Russian I did, namely a Dagestani, that's what is disgusting !! So it turns out that all Dagestanis are a priori cruel creatures, monsters!
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                2. RPD
                  RPD 14 June 2013 10: 06
                  -1
                  the concentration of freaks in you exceeds the norm many times. and we punish our freaks to the best of our ability. you otmazyvat your freaks to the end, provided, of course, if you did not offend the Dagestan. I am 110% sure that you surrendered even the mayor only because he annoyed many in Dagestan itself, if Amir was the mayor of Varonezh, all of Dagestan would harness for him
                  So it turns out that all Dagestanis are a priori cruel creatures, fiends! you are less than residents of three districts of Moscow and in crime chronicles flicker daily
    2. Containers
      Containers 13 June 2013 22: 13
      +1
      Well right now Dagestan will certainly give us heat. Right now they have there on the exam - everything is calm, as in Baghdad. A galaxy of academicians on the way to our Russian universities. Eh, how Dagestan will begin to develop with its brains a rampant, expanding, lazy Russia, how it will help ... Uhh, it takes your breath away from the prospects for the development of Dagestan.
      Education start getting normal. AND themselves strive to develop. And do not proudly broadcast that you required develop.
      1. Muar
        Muar 13 June 2013 22: 59
        0
        What can you say! There are 2 options: either you are a racist or a Nazi, although one is not very different from the other, of course I could list how much "Good" is going on in another part of Russia, but I will not, then how will I be different from you! ?
  37. Petrovich
    Petrovich 13 June 2013 21: 01
    +2
    Most Dagestanis are good and hardworking people, though peculiar, they don’t need the mess going on now. This region needs stability.
  38. Remko
    Remko 13 June 2013 21: 35
    0
    Maybe it's time to invite foreigners, such as Germans, to raise the region. And locals should not be allowed to go to the state feeding trough even for a kilometer.
  39. Ulysses
    Ulysses 13 June 2013 23: 15
    0
    It is high time for Dagestan to cut off its "spreading" by closing the subsidy cap.
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  42. Muar
    Muar 13 June 2013 23: 19
    0
    Quote: Kosha
    A galaxy of academicians on the way to our Russian universities

    Please announce the entire list of Russian universities, I just just learned that I am not studying at a Russian university
    1. RPD
      RPD 13 June 2013 23: 26
      0
      oh yeah in russian 100 points
  43. Muar
    Muar 13 June 2013 23: 21
    +1
    Quote: Kosha
    how Dagestan will begin to develop with its brains a rampant, expanding, lazy Russia

    Please specify, the border of Russia, where is the territory where, in your humble Nazi opinion, all other nations turn into monkeys
  44. Muar
    Muar 13 June 2013 23: 51
    +3
    All those problems that are in Dagestan, the Dagestanians themselves suffer from them, and no one justifies the chaos that occurs here, which people in another part of the country never dreamed of in the worst nightmare, but in Dagestan it’s constantly, but with all this, people here don’t cry for every trifle, people don’t have interethnic hatred, while 56 nations live here in such a small territory, there are the same people here, people like in other parts of Russia, with all the advantages and disadvantages , like everyone else, just many see only one side, and judge only by it
    1. RPD
      RPD 14 June 2013 00: 06
      +1
      there is no need to tell tales about world peace. in russia they no longer believe in them. Here's another part of Russia - Yakutia, late 80s. the same surge of small-town nationalism, fights are massive every day, there were murders, but there was no shooting, no head cutting, no thefts of people with torture. everything has passed, and now "emissaries of Allah" are going there in droves and again muddy the waters. and this problem (extremism, corruption) is entirely your local problem. corrupt officials and terrorists were born and raised in your environment. and you are now trying to blame everything on the Russians. as usual though.
      1. Muar
        Muar 14 June 2013 00: 36
        +1
        Who is blaming the Russians? What are you talking about? I don’t blame anyone! I mean that many Russians saw, or suggested to them, and showed only one side, and from this they already consider all Dagestanis sheep and monkeys, although this does not justify such people if you don’t like anyone , say it to him personally, and do not insult his nation or place of origin
  45. not good
    not good 13 June 2013 23: 54
    +2
    And there is no need to shout, they say enough to feed ..., you need to announce a program of gradual withdrawal from subsidies. For five years, reduce all non-state-friendly recharge for the state, leave decent salaries for teachers, doctors, cultural workers, police, etc., to increase the rural economy and for 10 years to free the republic from federal taxes. I can bet it rests and goes.
  46. Muar
    Muar 14 June 2013 00: 02
    +1
    Quote: RPD
    oh yeah in russian 100 points

    Indeed, the nation is not to blame for this, the system, circumstances, history that caused people to live by such laws are to blame, but this does not mean that they are a priori stupid and not cultural, if you give them the opportunity and conditions to develop, they can be very talented people
    1. RPD
      RPD 14 June 2013 00: 12
      0
      Theory of social disorganization: E. Sutherland's ideas were developed by Emil Durheim, Schult and Clark. Society functions normally with social cohesion regulated by moral and legal norms. Lack of cohesion leads to social disorganization. Among the causes of crime, in addition to socio-cultural, the following were noted: social inequality, contradictions in the criminal law, as a result of the cause of crime - various kinds of negative social phenomena. Clark believed that the causes of crime included racism, slums, violence, poverty, environmental pollution, corruption, etc.
  47. Warrawar
    Warrawar 14 June 2013 00: 12
    +4
    If there was no terrorism / extremism in the Caucasus and morals were simpler, then there would be a quite prosperous, tourist and agricultural region.
  48. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 14 June 2013 01: 23
    0
    The Governor-General is needed there, with all the ensuing and flowing.
  49. Tao
    Tao 14 June 2013 04: 32
    -3
    Pfft, how much more does it take to rape and torture Russian girls and kill Russian children before the government realizes that it is necessary to abandon kafkaz? We need mass shootings, "fellowship", harsh punishments, and zero tolerance, not fines.
  50. old rats
    old rats 14 June 2013 19: 57
    0
    I work in the north, in the office several thousand people, almost a quarter of Dagestanis.
    there are no special problems with them. they are normally paid, they are normally plowed.