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Russian rap as the basis of Russia's geopolitical security

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Do not laugh at the title of the article. And yes, the author of this material still likes a good Russian rap with a meaning.


REP AS WEAPONS MASS LESIONS

Today the world is ruled by mass media. The simplest example of such a government is the color revolutions of recent years. The organization of such events was largely carried out thanks to social networks and appeals of popular bloggers to disobey the authorities.

Often, public discontent was fueled by supposedly amateur rap videos, in which unknown performers were simply explained to the most active part of society — the youth — by unknown words to the most active part of the society, by whom they should be indignant.

With the help of rap, even the correct words of the rulers of the states, selectively presented to the feet of active, but not always politically savvy youth, turned around.

An example of this is the rap-remix of the speech of the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, called "Zenga Zenga Song".

During the tragic Libyan events of 2011, this composition, created by 31-year-old Israeli journalist and musician Noah Aloosh, scored over a million views on YouTube.

For promotion of his remix, Alooshe also actively used the social networks “Twitter” and “Facebook” controlled by Western special services.

In the title of the track "Zenga Zenga Song" the word "zanga" was played up, which in Arabic means "lane". The track "Hey Baby" by American rappers Pitbull and T-Pain was used as a musical basis for the track.

The basis for the clip was the speech of Muammarr Gaddafi, which was broadcast on state television on the evening of February 22 of the year 2011.

In it, the Libyan leader called on the people of Libya to fight against the opponents of the country, and also said that he would not abandon his people and would purify the country from enemies “quarter after quarter”.

It was the last sentence that was torn out of Gaddafi’s speech. As a result, simple Libyan youth saw a “bloody tyrant” on the screens of their computers and mobile phones, to the simple melody of those who threatened to “purge the house behind the house, lane behind the alley”.

This is the session of mass hypnosis that Libyan fighters used to make this song their unofficial anthem. According to the author of the clip, the grateful Libyan "oppositionists" promised him to "dance under the Zenga Zenga Song" in the squares, when the Gaddafi regime will finally fall.
As you can see, in this case, rap was used as a means of forming the “right for customers” public opinion, which eventually led to the collapse of the country into several parts.

REP WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF RUSSIAN REAL ESTATE


For rap culture, common in Russia, characterized by such features as:
• Mass;
• The largest percentage of young people among students;
• The presence of cult performers, the texts of which are cited almost more often than the poems of the great Russian poets.

Through rap, which is based on the artist's own text, performed with rhythmic music, texts of any direction can be heard.

As mentioned earlier, the main consumer of rap music is the youth of transition age, which is characterized by:
• Undeveloped political and social views;
• Lack of clear guidelines and authoritative opinions.

Such authorities for young people are rap artists, who not only give recommendations to the young about what is right, they also do it with the simplest sound that a person perceives and remembers - a rhythmic beat.

Young people in rap artists of their informal leaders, from which still weak organisms, to put it in simple words, are waiting for a clear paternal distinction on the topic: “What is good and what is bad?”

Russian rap, whose birthplace is the United States - is, in fact, the same age as modern Russia. Having absorbed elements of Western culture, Russian rap, nevertheless, has its own flavor, which can be used in various work with the Russian youth.

RUSSIAN REPAIRS

Realizing the popularity of rap among Russian youth, many channels began to be broadcast news programs whose speakers are popular rap artists.

The purpose of this innovation is to introduce the Russian and world news, which is popular among young people, from the perspective of Russian politics.

An example of such a project is Rap-Info, organized with the support of the RIA-Novosti news agency.

In this program, the news is in the format of rap reads. The leading performers are popular performers Dino mc and ST. The program covers the most popular topics, whether riding with flashing lights, protests in Turkey or problems in the field of education.

Through the lips of the hip-hop movement stars, the Russian state-owned media bring the world's major news to young people, shaping the opinion of young people about global issues within the framework that is optimal for the Russian political leadership.

REP AND POLITICS

Russian rap is used as a means of conveying and popularizing among the younger generation the political views of a particular political party, and even individual politicians.

An example of this is rap melodies recorded by the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Vladimir Zhirinovsky. In them, a bright Russian politician with words accessible to young people gives answers to such questions as:
• The true enemies of Russia;
• The reasons for the wrong decisions of certain politicians;
• Consequences of the NATO bombing of cities in an independent Iraq.

An even more vivid example is the final of the TV project “Battle for respect”, the main meaning of which was the verbal battle of young rap artists.

Surprise for viewers was the final of this project, which was personally visited by the then head of the Russian Government, Vladimir Putin.

The prime minister said on the air: “Those young people who are engaged in these kinds of art in our country also bring their own Russian charm. After all, rap, even urban rap, street a little rough, is filled with social content, talks about the problems of society, about the problems of youth. ”

As seen, the importance CORRECT The use of Russian rap is realized by politicians of even the highest level.

REP FOR GOOD

In addition to politics and advertising, the current use of rap in the media can boast of such television projects, in the format of which youths can be heard calling for a healthy lifestyle.

With the help of rap, film reviews of the best Russian films are made, and, what is most pleased with the author of this material, the main excerpts from the works of the great Russian writers and poets are presented.

One of the elements that made rap so popular among Russian youth was not only the fashion for foreign music, but also the fact that thanks to this style of music, Russian-speaking Russian young performers could use all the richness and diversity of the Russian language in their lyrics.

And it's not a matter of matte, which many now thought of. The case is in a format due to which in a short period of time the performer can convey to the listener the maximum number of words.

The meaning of the performed compositions is not far behind. Particularly pleasant is the fact that through the rap format, it was poets with a deep inner world who did not know how to convey their text to the masses to convey their works to the listeners.

RESULTS

As can be seen from the above, rap is the basis of modern youth culture, which is successfully used by many interested parties.

Separately, it should be noted that the popularity of rap in other countries of the world could be successfully applied by Russian special services in regions of the world that interest Russia. The example of Libya is a clear confirmation of this.

Speaking of Russia and Russian rap, one should be honest to the end: along with deep and dignified lyrics, rap melodies are often found today that call on young people to take negative actions, whether it is drug addiction or street disassembly.

However, this does not mean the absolute harm of rap. This suggests that this style is multifaceted, and requires careful attention from interested structures that can influence the halls with the Russian youth to be “pumped by the right rap artists,” advocating true values, and most importantly, doing so from pure heart.
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  1. Matematos
    Matematos 11 June 2013 08: 04 New
    +3
    Russian rap as the basis of Russia's geopolitical security


    GROT - the basis of Russian rap IMHO
    1. MAG
      MAG 11 June 2013 11: 59 New
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      GROT 25/17 BASTA
      1. 755962
        755962 11 June 2013 14: 18 New
        +5
        If it was a question of poetry in patriotic upbringing (someone like whom and at one’s discretion), then I like it more ...
        1. smile
          smile 11 June 2013 14: 56 New
          +3
          755962
          I support! I have a reaction to rap like this - "Old Romualditch sniffed his footcloths ... and was already enchanted!"
        2. MAG
          MAG 11 June 2013 15: 24 New
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          there is a rap and on Yesenin Misha Mavashi-Letter to a woman. Let them find out that there is a Russian classic than no matter with the existing education, maybe just such music will become an impetus to OUR LITERATURE
        3. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich 11 June 2013 17: 28 New
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          I still consider the poem about Yesenin's birch one of the best about nature
      2. Maks111
        Maks111 11 June 2013 15: 04 New
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        GROT 25/17 BASTA
        In-in! Russian REP is not Timati and the like, but 25/17, GROT, but this is not for the media.
      3. Maks111
        Maks111 11 June 2013 15: 16 New
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        Watch the video and understand what Russian rap is.
        1. Ducksar
          Ducksar 11 June 2013 19: 09 New
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          I agree with you Max! But it was necessary to lay out these ones here =)))

      4. Prometheus
        Prometheus 12 June 2013 07: 20 New
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        Do not forget Yu.G. Unfortunately, the band broke up 6 years ago.
    2. Joker
      Joker 11 June 2013 16: 14 New
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      Russian rap is as ridiculous as the black singing song — you’re the poor man.

  2. Zhzhuk
    Zhzhuk 11 June 2013 08: 07 New
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    I agree with the author during all the rallies for 1000 rubles, many performers somehow strangely changed the rhetoric of the songs the same dino, basta, they say the sun is not visible, and I think the Russian rap is cooler than once every 100 slabs like bulk
    here is the clip about which is discussed in the article
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    2. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 09: 50 New
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      Quote: Zhzhuk
      I agree with the author during all the rallies for 1000 rubles, many performers somehow strangely changed the rhetoric of the songs the same dino, basta, they say the sun is not visible, and I think the Russian rap is cooler than once every 100 slabs like bulk
      here is the clip about which is discussed in the article

      And I liked this remix)


      Such a session of mass hypnosis was used by the Libyan militants, who made this song their unofficial anthem. According to the author of the video, the grateful Libyan "opposition" promised him to "dance to 'Zenga Zenga Song' in the squares," when Gaddafi’s regime will finally fall.

      In my opinion this is some kind of nonsense, because the author of this mix, Noah Alush, is an Israeli DJ who caught the eye of Gaddafi’s warlike speech.
      In the first month, the clip ate the brain of at least a million people in the Mediterranean, and soon the figure jumped to four lyamas. Moreover, the most popular "Zenga-zenga" acquired, oddly enough, it was in the Arab countries - there it was instantly disassembled into ringtones and drove up to the holes in discos. Many, however, later experienced a strong surprise when they found out where the author of the hit lives, but it was already impossible to stop the wave.

      Noah Alush, in person
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 June 2013 11: 22 New
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      and I think that this is a simple tastelessness and lack of culture, and in the homeland of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin ... this Negro mumble that crawled out of Harlem's slums is simply inappropriate ... and the gopnik-calling themselves rappers, wearing trousers with a motorbike to the ground and jackets with hoods, not the bearers of the new "art" ...
      1. Gooch
        Gooch 11 June 2013 11: 30 New
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        Quote: Andrew Y.
        and I think that this is a simple tastelessness and lack of culture, and in the homeland of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin ... this Negro mumble that crawled out of Harlem's slums is simply inappropriate ... and the gopnik-calling themselves rappers, wearing trousers with a motorbike to the ground and jackets with hoods, not the bearers of the new "art" ...

        There are truly masterpiece songs. So a reasonable, modern, non-pop-up rap is power. :)
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  4. Komodo
    Komodo 11 June 2013 08: 09 New
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    I generally threw the telly. It doesn’t take out my body. angry.Yes and it’s not clear
    what are you watching ads or d..mo. The feeling is that zhurnalyugi specifically looking for the most terrible stories. The worse, the better they think the reportage is. Murders, robberies, disasters, crimes, ma
    nyaki.
    THANK!! stop I have enough of this .... ma at work.
    1. Komodo
      Komodo 11 June 2013 08: 12 New
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      Sorry, did not read the article. He dwelt on the title: "Russian rap as the basis of Russia's geopolitical security." Here it turns out what's the matter !! laughing
      1. Trailer
        11 June 2013 08: 21 New
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        Quote: Komodo
        Sorry, did not read the article. Stopped on the title
        Exactly. And one censor also once thought that “Traveling from St. Petersburg to Moscow” is a tourist essay, and having missed it, gave life to something pivotal.
        1. Komodo
          Komodo 11 June 2013 08: 41 New
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          Quote: Karavan
          Exactly. And one censor also once thought that “Traveling from St. Petersburg to Moscow” is a tourist essay, and having missed it, gave life to something pivotal.

          No offense! Creativity in any form, whether it be rap, or a sonata for piano and orchestra, is inseparable from the concept of PERSONALITY.
          “The more people in the nation are engaged in free, any creativity, inventing, the more developed it is.” - Quote.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 00 New
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            Quote: Komodo
            Creativity in any form, whether it be rap, or a sonata for piano and orchestra, is inseparable from the concept of PERSONALITY.

            Creativity and rap are in different categories. For rap, it’s enough to tune in to a certain “wave” and the creation process is controlled by the individual himself. In real creativity, man is a vehicle and inspired by the high, he brings the eternal in an accessible form for us. Rap creates a personality, individuality goes deeper and is potentially capable of the great, unlike a person who is capable of only topical. The difference is with sex and love, the theme is the same depth is different.
            It is especially pleasant that it was the poets with a deep inner world who did not know how to convey their lyrics to the masses who began to convey their works to the listeners through the rap format
            If they don’t read books, let them read comics, this only speaks of degradation. Experience on plants, I think, would convincingly show what rap is, I think its attractiveness for young people is that it is a protective tool and helps to vomit the lies that surround it from all sides.
            It should be noted separately that the popularity of rap in other countries of the world could be successfully applied by Russian special services in regions of the world that interest Russia.

            After this, young people will begin to look for another way of expression.
    2. Kostya pedestrian
      Kostya pedestrian 11 June 2013 15: 23 New
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      But they didn’t try to influence television, it’s still public smile , should be beneficial to society.

      A kind of return of the Princess Medea stolen by the Greek Jason to her father - the king of the magical forest Ares. Hehe!
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  5. StrateG
    StrateG 11 June 2013 08: 09 New
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    Adults probably will not understand hi

    My Russia, I love you, as my mother loves her son
    And I'm not the only one, I was when I dreamed of leaving away
    I was crazy and no one was able to help
    I thought life would be sweeter there, golden mountains
    And I thought everything could solve this oh dollar
    But he was mistaken, how blind he was
    He didn’t notice his native, strove to become different
    And who is waiting for me there, who needs me there? No one!
    It’s good that I understood this truth myself, that you are one native
    Everywhere is good, where there is no us, I know it
    And I am grateful to God for being Russian
    I sincerely wholeheartedly love you
    You Russia, Belarus and Ukraine
    And never quarrel us, we are one.

    Oh, many, many
    Oh, glories about you, My Russia, the Orthodox land,
    I love you.

    If they say leave Russia, we’ll give everything
    I will answer them no, we will not sell Russia!
    This country is not like any other
    God bless Russia, nothing is more expensive
    Birch, rivulets, Russian speech, beautiful Russian girls
    This country is forever, and its vast expanses are endless
    Well, how can this not be like shame!
    And let the Russian man drink the most
    But indeed they are tormenting us, and we are laughing!
    Oh, my Russia, we are your patriots
    And stand up for you at any time of the year
    Our strength in unity and the Orthodox faith
    Yes, you opened your doors to many
    And may they judge us for the truth in our songs
    But all the same, the Slavs will always be together.

    Oh, many, many
    Oh, glories about you, My Russia, the Orthodox land,
    I love you.

    (c) Roma Zhigan - Russia
    1. Trailer
      11 June 2013 08: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: StrateG
      Adults probably will not understand
      Adult uncles rule the world, I think they will understand.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 08: 54 New
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      1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  6. Svobodny
    Svobodny 11 June 2013 08: 12 New
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    The title, of course, is too loud, and the author’s thought is somewhat understandable. Good poems have always been appreciated in Russia. But let us not forget that our everything is Pushkin! And also Tyutchev, Akhmatova, Yesenin, Pasternak and many other outstanding artists of the word.
    Good poems are a real ideological weapon, but let's not forget that rap is a product of an alien culture, a form that is not characteristic of the Russian system of versification. From here - there is something to ponder!
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 12 New
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      Quote: Svobodny
      Good poems are a real ideological weapon

      This is not a weapon, this is another way to touch the eternal - only the eternal forms the soul and is a breeding ground. And about rap, I would say differently - "virus".
  7. pinecone
    pinecone 11 June 2013 08: 12 New
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    I am deeply convinced that this *** rap, which originated in the Negro criminal environment and has nothing to do with the musical culture, is an absolutely alien phenomenon for the Russian identity, an instrument for even more stupid our youth.
    1. Trailer
      11 June 2013 08: 18 New
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      Quote: pinecone
      I am deeply convinced that this *** rap
      The taste and color. But in terms of and in the way of conveying information - it is very effective.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 20 New
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        Quote: Karavan
        Quote: pinecone
        I am deeply convinced that this *** rap
        The taste and color. But in terms of and in the way of conveying information - it is very effective.

        This is true, the protection against such an emotional, rhythmic way of delivering "information" is weak for the majority and this weakness is easy to use. I prefer the Pushkins and the Lermontovs, and rap if you need to make me sick.
    2. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 11 June 2013 08: 28 New
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      Rap today is already part of the culture. We won’t get anywhere from this. And the correct use of this segment in the interests of the state can actually bring its dividends. Young people love rap and rock, and much more. Our authorities also need to work in this area. And to say "rap is not a culture" essentially say that it can be scored and left to chance. And everything flows, as you know, only down. So the author indicated the correct thought. Only here it is not just rap that needs to be limited, but really it is already starting to work with young people in all directions.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 11 June 2013 10: 04 New
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        Quote: Trapper7
        Rap today is already part of the culture.

        And, please note, a foreign culture. Throwing "show-offs" and folding to the rhythmic music of boys and girls covered with tattoos is not part of Russian culture. Yes, modern. Yes, fashionable. Just to raise this crap to the level of a "geopolitical future" is an overkill.
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 26 New
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        Quote: Trapper7
        Rap today is already part of the culture

        Culture from the word cultivate, if you need to go deeper, you can climb and rap cultivate once the classics are so morally obsolete. By the way, everything doesn’t flow by itself, but is sent from behind a hillock, here we need a cultivator and turn on the removal of these “weeds”.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 11 June 2013 15: 23 New
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          Quote: Ivan.
          since the classics are so morally obsolete.

          I do not agree. Classics cannot be out of date. This is the CLASSIC. Another thing is that we have been TRAINED TO LISTEN TO CLASSICAL MUSIC, But it arouses feelings and thoughts, images are born to music. A person listening to classical music becomes a creator of images. But creativity and developed thinking in our children do not want to be seen. Yes, rap is easier. Like a hammer rhythmically through the brain. And the youth jumps to the beat of the hammer. And also different ideas are driven into it. This is where you need to think - WHAT IS BROKEN. And to return to music education at the secondary school level, as it was during the USSR, when they introduced and explained at school what sounds, what instruments, gave examples of classical music and reached operas and symphonies.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 11 June 2013 15: 58 New
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            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: Ivan.
            since the classics are so morally obsolete.

            I do not agree. Classics cannot be out of date. This is the CLASSIC. Another thing is that we have been TRAINED TO LISTEN TO CLASSICAL MUSIC, But it arouses feelings and thoughts, images are born to music. A person listening to classical music becomes a creator of images. But creativity and developed thinking in our children do not want to be seen. Yes, rap is easier. Like a hammer rhythmically through the brain. And the youth jumps to the beat of the hammer. And also different ideas are driven into it. This is where you need to think - WHAT IS BROKEN. And to return to music education at the secondary school level, as it was during the USSR, when they introduced and explained at school what sounds, what instruments, gave examples of classical music and reached operas and symphonies.

            You quoted my thoughts directly!
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 08: 58 New
      +2
      It is necessary to use REP as an ideological weapon, patriotic texts through the rhythm of the subconscious ...!
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 11 June 2013 09: 41 New
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        And there are examples, some works are comparable to masterpieces such as "Victory Day"
        Here's an example:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6So0aOJOYFI
        by the way, throw links to good patriotic songs.
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        2. Komodo
          Komodo 11 June 2013 09: 56 New
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          Another one. Modern. Like Rap.
          Good.
        3. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 10: 24 New
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          Listen to the Kuban Cossack Choir.
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 27 New
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        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        It is necessary to use REP as an ideological weapon, patriotic texts through the rhythm of the subconscious ...!

        Giving new robots?
    4. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 10: 22 New
      +2
      At one time, they said the same thing about Rock. Foreign, alien, not ours. And I like and do not consider myself a traitor or not a patriot, although I absolutely did not understand and still do not understand what they are singing about.
    5. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 13 New
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      Quote: pinecone
      instrument of even greater stupidity of our youth.

      An analogue of teletubbies, stupidly and effectively!
    6. Maks111
      Maks111 11 June 2013 15: 07 New
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      I am deeply convinced that this *** rap, which originated in the Negro criminal environment and has nothing to do with the musical culture, is an absolutely alien phenomenon for the Russian identity, an instrument for even more stupid our youth.
      Listen to 25/17, GROT and it may well be you change your mind.
  8. Zhzhuk
    Zhzhuk 11 June 2013 08: 23 New
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    Quote: Komodo
    Sorry, did not read the article. He dwelt on the title: "Russian rap as the basis of Russia's geopolitical security." Here it turns out what's the matter !! laughing

    The house is being built in a brick, once I heard a song about how rude it is in the country, they say you need to put out the fire with kerosene, I heard it again, and the person will sit down at least in this subconscious emotional message, and when the time comes, brainwashed, if they don’t help, then they certainly won’t interfere, I think this makes sense,
    you can also pit peoples, create revolutionary moods, and what doesn’t look like geo politics, for me all these Rothschilds, Rockefellers and other pit bulls manage us
  9. treskoed
    treskoed 11 June 2013 08: 23 New
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    For rap culture, common in Russia, characterized by such features as:
    • Mass;
    • The largest percentage of young people among students;
    • The presence of cult performers, the texts of which are cited almost more often than the poems of the great Russian poets.

    Bitterly read this. Not Pushkin, Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Yesenin and other glorious representatives of Russian culture, but half-drunk nonsense, unknown to anyone and it is not clear what. So stupid chickens run to "chick-chuck!" and enjoy abandoned scraps!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 11 June 2013 08: 29 New
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      Quote: treskoed
      Bitterly read this.

      I agree. I can’t stand rap, I don’t understand. This is not ours, not Russian. The soul does not accept.
      1. Trailer
        11 June 2013 08: 51 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        .This is not ours, not Russian
        Rock, Jazz, Chanson, in theory, came to us, in theory, from the West. And nothing, after all, took root and became part of the culture.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 June 2013 11: 53 New
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          Quote: Karavan
          Rock, Jazz, Chanson, in theory, came to us, in theory, from the West. And nothing, after all, took root and became part of the culture.

          Caravan, rap went back in the early 90s, but remained in a narrow circle. Millions listened to rock, and rap has a very narrow audience and there are very few on stage. So rap has a future in New York, but not ours hi
          1. Trailer
            11 June 2013 13: 38 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            rap has a very narrow audience
            Well yes. Tell us about the not-so-old “Gang-gang style”, which gained 250 million views, after which all our local youth listened to it on mobile and danced something similar. A good rap has its own audience. Believe me. Recently I was in St. Petersburg - at rock and rap concerts. Occupancy is the same. With one difference - at the rap concert, people moved and mumbled more, which means that he remembered the words embedded in his head ...
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 37 New
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          Quote: Karavan
          Quote: baltika-18
          .This is not ours, not Russian
          Rock, Jazz, Chanson, in theory, came to us, in theory, from the West. And nothing, after all, took root and became part of the culture.

          As well as speed, politics, law and other viruses.
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 11 June 2013 15: 27 New
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          Quote: Karavan
          And nothing, after all, took root and became part of the culture.

          And it was from this that the collapse and suppression of RUSSIAN culture began.
          Everything is good in moderation. And as a percentage, all "newcomers" should be less than 30% compared to our music - classical, folk, pop.
      2. Gooch
        Gooch 11 June 2013 10: 04 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        I agree. I can’t stand rap, I don’t understand. This is not ours, not Russian. The soul does not accept.

        In my grace, Ivan Alekseev, by the way, is also Noize MC - a teacher of the Russian Language and Literature by education
      3. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 35 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        The soul does not accept.

        Feeling like something slimy, vile, and it doesn’t matter that we don’t understand what’s wrong with it, the main thing is that we feel that it’s inferior, everything that we cultivate in ourselves dies of this.
    2. horoh
      horoh 11 June 2013 08: 38 New
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      In Russian Rock, our classics are present, Alice, Mongol Shuudan, etc.
      1. Bekzat
        Bekzat 11 June 2013 15: 29 New
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        for Khorokh, and there is DDT, Zemfira, and of course Viktor Tsoi !!!
  10. fenix57
    fenix57 11 June 2013 09: 05 New
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    Well, the rap of the Russian “production”, as information influences can give a result, but not immediately, over time. Maybe. That's just why "our" Russian rapper (so it seems!) Is more and more in Miami ... there he carries out "sabotage" ... The "Testaments" of the Head of the State of Russia are fighting "Softly" ...
    Quote: treskoed
    . So stupid chickens run to "chick-chuck!" and enjoy abandoned scraps!

    So it’s easier to “get it.”
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 01 New
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      We must use all methods to educate young people in the spirit of patriotism and rap and rock, anything, just to have a result !!!
  11. Wedmak
    Wedmak 11 June 2013 09: 09 New
    +2
    Um ..... I will not even comment in detail, bad words are only remembered. I watch only the news on TV, and IF I HAVE the good old INTERESTING films (both ours and overseas). When advertising, I turn off the sound, because it infuriates me incredibly, after 10 seconds of this ... I can’t even find the right words.
    And about rap ... keep quiet, keep quiet. request
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 12 New
      +1
      TV and the media are in the hands of enemies, Euro-Zionists, what else do you want? What would they oppose themselves? It is necessary to take away the channels from the Jews, and broadcast through them in favor of RUSSIA, and not to destroy the brains of the young! Although according to a Russian proverb: Educate while lying across! Parenting begins at home, what parents, such and children: an apple does not fall far from an apple tree, although there are pleasant exceptions !!!
  12. AK-47
    AK-47 11 June 2013 09: 34 New
    -1
    rap is the foundation of modern youth culture

    Rap is a rhythmic recitative, usually read to heavy beat music.
    And nothing bad, but a destructive ideology can be carried out under Tchaikovsky's news.
  13. Karabin
    Karabin 11 June 2013 09: 40 New
    +9
    Russian rap as the basis of Russia's geopolitical security

    Do not laugh at the title of the article.

    Well, how not to laugh, dear. An efficient economy, a combat-ready army, a solid foreign policy, an educated and working people can ensure the country's geopolitical security. I think so, probably by naivety.
    what is pleasant is that through the rap format, it was the poets with a deep inner world who did not know how to convey their lyrics to the masses who began to convey their works to listeners.

    How many minutes? Who will remember the meaning of what they heard, at least six months later? The deep world will remain with the poet.
    The point is in the format thanks to which in a short period of time the performer can convey to the listener the maximum number of words
    .
    I understand the benefits of a machine gun rate of fire. And what is the use of the maximum number of words per minute. With rare exceptions, verbal diarrhea. Even if it consists of the best words.
    good Russian rap with meaning.

    Apparently the students of my technical school have not reached such a stage of "enlightenment" and are listening to some kind of crap. Content poppy-orphan-yard. The form is a mutilated language, reminiscent of the distant Russian.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 10: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Karabin
      Apparently the students of my technical school have not reached such a stage of "enlightenment" and are listening to some kind of crap. Content poppy-orphan-yard. The form is a mutilated language, reminiscent of the distant Russian.

      If you are about Gufy, Slim, Centers, Ak-47, Legalises, Timothy and the like do not resemble this word Shit, then yes, I agree, but there are really talented rappers who largely support this trend in the right direction, and not glamorously licked, guano
    2. Trailer
      11 June 2013 11: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: Karabin

      Satisfied with criticism!
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 16 New
      0
      A carabiner, a competently composed text very much acts on the subconscious !!!
    4. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 12: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Karabin
      I understand the benefits of a machine gun rate of fire. And what is the use of the maximum number of words per minute

      There used to be “presentations” and “job placement” all over the country long ago - brought you a few more (a paid entrance ticket) and get interest for each brought, brought, etc. My friend specially went to see what it is, how they convince people to give up their last money. So there everything is in science, including quick speech to music, it is known that with 100 or 120 (I do not remember) words per minute, a person ceases to critically perceive what he heard and then almost as if under hypnosis. Add rhythm, sound pressure, "subculture elements", etc. to this. and get 100% programming.
      1. Trailer
        11 June 2013 13: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Ivan.
        . So there everything is science, including quick speech to music, it is known that with 100 or 120 (I do not remember) words per minute, a person ceases to critically perceive what he heard and then almost as if under hypnosis.
        Thanks for the constructive addition.
  14. Xmypp
    Xmypp 11 June 2013 09: 41 New
    +2
    Eh, grab the minuses, but oh well.
    I don’t understand such a negative to rap. Do not like it, do not listen. I agree that the majority of representatives of domestic rap is the mass of feces, but the same thing is in Russian rock, chanson, etc.
    I recall the 90s, and how various Pugachikhas, Kirkorovs, etc. spoke on TV, sang how everything is fine with us. And if you recall the election of Yeltsin "Vote or lose"? Popsa, with representatives of our rock, rode amicably around the country and campaigned in favor of Yeltsin. Well, yes, it’s amazing what to say.
    And then Russian rap appeared, namely in the late 90s. Young guys began to rap, seeing what was happening in the country. Initially, Russian rap was a mixture of rap and chanson, who knows, this is the Ellipsis group. And if you listen to what they read then, this is what rubbish on many sites is now (drug addiction, prostitution, emigrants, the collapse of the country, etc.).
    The most interesting thing is that many rap lovers are not alien to take a guitar and remember Nautilus, the Coffin or Cinema.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 13: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Xmypp
      Eh, grab the minuses, but oh well.

      For courage (I don’t put it), but your opinion is one-sided, pop music and creativity are different concepts, I remember for a long time some kind of gentle barking or bull asked by journalists - "what are your future creative plans." It’s the same as asking an ordinary soldier - “what strategy will you choose at the following combined arms exercises”
  15. Proud.
    Proud. 11 June 2013 09: 43 New
    +1
    I am not 16, I am not a fan of rap, but there are quite worthy songs. Here, for example, the youngest recommended:
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 09: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Be proud.
      I am not 16, I am not a fan of rap, but there are quite worthy songs. Here, for example, the youngest recommended:

      Rap in the style of Misha Mavashi, IMHO, maybe someone likes it, but the way they deliver it to the youth doesn’t give the sense that they tried to put in, there’s a whole bunch of such small, unpopular groups that they don’t bring anything new to rap culture, real furore is created by Noize MC, Vasya Oblomov, Anacondaz, Lyapis Trubetskoy - this is a really high level worthy of attention
      One of the songs of the Anacondaz repertoire :)
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 11 June 2013 12: 00 New
        0
        The taste and color, all apples are different. You probably better know who and what contribution they make to rap culture. I don’t understand the intricacies of this direction. I liked this song. movement. Just like that.
  16. DmitryU
    DmitryU 11 June 2013 09: 55 New
    0
    Another worthy song
  17. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 June 2013 09: 56 New
    +7
    Maybe I'm just not from that generation, only when you listen to the Farewell of the Slav, or for example a song performed by Rastorguev. On the field with a horse. THEN something rolls over and really hurt the soul. What is REP? The rhythmic narrative is not always even in rhyme. Pronounced by the tongue twister and often it’s not even clear what it is about. In general, I will not argue that each generation has its own interests.
    I still want to add that REP is not a Russian tradition, and in my opinion this is a temporary phenomenon and it will pass.
    1. Micex
      Micex 11 June 2013 14: 52 New
      +1
      I’ll tell you as a representative of the younger generation - you can listen to both the songs you have indicated and the current ones. All current trends are already here, and they cannot be thrown out. This is what young people cook, and the only option - not to allow young people to be narrow-minded and one-sided, the current and former culture is completely compatible - there should be a synthesis of traditions, since continuity has failed.
  18. Bezarius
    Bezarius 11 June 2013 10: 21 New
    +4
    I do not approve. Rap is only a short-term phenomenon. The classics are immortal. And we are known to the world precisely for our classics, both musical and literary works. Rap will never become a high art for which the world will respect us, regardless of gender and age. And therefore, instead of using rap as an educational tool, it is worth instilling a love for the sublime.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 29 New
      -1
      We must use all methods !!! Young should grow RUSSIAN, not amers and Euroids !!!
  19. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 10: 31 New
    +2
    Arrived ... Declare VBRO with an alien Western mass culture, i.e. this diversion, the salvation of Russia ??? The author has a clear overheating of the brain, or even worse.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 10: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Tambov we ...
      Arrived ... Declare VBRO with an alien Western mass culture, i.e. this diversion, the salvation of Russia ??? The author has a clear overheating of the brain, or even worse.

      Dear, you have paranoia, then let's call toilet paper, a computer and a television a throw-in alien to Western mass culture, we will rub ourselves with a stone, plow plow and walk in bast shoes.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 13: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Gooch
        toilet paper, computer and tv

        Strongly doubt that at least one of this was born from the rotten. Unless only brought design and mass production.
        In 1897, the German scientist F. Brown created a cathode ray tube. In1911, B. Rosing used it for the first transmission in the world. According to some sources, he is considered the inventor of the TV.
        In the years 1923-1924. V. Zvorykin constructed an iconoscope (transmitting electronic tube) and a kinescope (receiving tube). These inventions served as the basis for the television.
        The inside of its receiving tube was made in the form of cells.
        Using a cathode ray tube, they were illuminated, "bombarded." As a result, the dots on the screen began to glow.
        Source: http://www.znaytovar.ru/new443.html

        about computer, computer - http://badcomp.net/sozdanie_computera_mesm.html
        Paper is the creator of China.
      2. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 11 June 2013 18: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Gooch
        we wipe with a stone, plow plow and walk in bast shoes.

        I remember with the advent of Christianity, Europe stole worse than cesspools, unlike Russians:
        http://warfiles.ru/show-32652-smerdyaschaya-evropa.html

        Rap, jazz, blues, chanson ... Frankly, complete crap. I remember the valley complained that no one listens to her jazz at concerts, and they ask only normal pop songs to be performed ... But on TV, she comes off completely - mostly jazz ... The media know that the business is promoting the Western way of life.
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 11 June 2013 18: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: DeerIvanovich
          I remember with the advent of Christianity, Europe stole worse than cesspools, unlike Russians:

          When in Europe industrialization and an economic upswing took place, in Russia it was:

          Washing in the stove (pay attention to the calf in the hut)





          Residents of the great Empire in the 20th century, which were destroyed by the evil communists, and resettled everyone from the huts, into normal houses, dressed, shod .. But in the end, anyway, they were wrong.

          Rap, jazz, blues, chanson ... Frankly, complete crap. I remember the valley complained that no one listens to her jazz at concerts, and they ask only normal pop songs to be performed ... But on TV, she comes off completely - mostly jazz ... The media know that the business is promoting the Western way of life.

          Rap, Jazz, Blues, listening to the whole world. The fact that in Russia these areas have not taken root does not mean anything. Chanson, by the way, is the genre of French music, in Russia has acquired a purely gopnico-thieves color, hence the vomiting of creativity in the field of so-called chanson artists.
          That's about chanson. Very much in the subject :))
      3. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 19: 01 New
        +2
        No, dear, not paranoia, but a good vaccination against any infection that is alien to us Russians, vaccinated as early as the pioneer-Komsomol childhood, and then in the ranks of the Soviet Army. It is a pity that you are not lucky to get the same.
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 11 June 2013 19: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Tambov we ...
          vaccinated in pioneer-Komsomol childhood, and then in the ranks of the Soviet Army. It is a pity that you are not lucky to get the same.

          Of course .. I’m not lucky, I wasn’t a Pioneer, I didn’t serve in the Komsomol either, and I didn’t serve in the Army ... the moral ublyu grew up shorter.
          1. Tambov we ...
            Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 19: 13 New
            +1
            No need to sprinkle ash on your head, it’s better to turn on the brain, remember the Great History of our country, and stop bowing to American blacks and their muttering to the sounds of tom-tom. This is my advice to you.
            1. Gooch
              Gooch 11 June 2013 19: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Tambov we ...
              No need to sprinkle ash on your head, it’s better to turn on the brain, remember the Great History of our country, and stop bowing to American blacks and their muttering to the sounds of tom-tom. This is my advice to you.

              Well, I’ll take it into account.)) But judging by the fact, the United States is a triumph of Western culture) Japan is a triumph of the East.)
              1. Tambov we ...
                Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 19: 56 New
                +1
                Undoubtedly. People live there too. And these people want to dress and live in houses. But we also want this. And they (or rather their leaders) decided to mess up their affairs at the expense of us, or rather, our bottomless pantries of the underground and our vast territories. Yes, for many centuries they tried to take us with a sword, but only their sword remained in their asses. And now they are trying (not only now, but also much earlier - remember the 50s - 60s, their rock-roll, and then their beat and rock) to reculture us in their own way, because they understood that culture is there is the basis of any society. Destroy the culture, plant your own and come master. Here you are, as they say, and the whole ... to the penny. Is that clear now?
                1. Gooch
                  Gooch 11 June 2013 20: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: Tambov we ...
                  Undoubtedly. People live there too. And these people want to dress and live in houses. But we also want this. And they (or rather their leaders) decided to mess up their affairs at the expense of us, or rather, our bottomless pantries of the underground and our vast territories. Yes, for many centuries they tried to take us with a sword, but only their sword remained in their asses. And now they are trying (not only now, but also much earlier - remember the 50s - 60s, their rock-roll, and then their beat and rock) to reculture us in their own way, because they understood that culture is there is the basis of any society. Destroy the culture, plant your own and come master. Here you are, as they say, and the whole ... to the penny. Is that clear now?

                  Who tried to take you with a sword? Americans? Jews? Massons? What can be harmful to the direction of music among the masses? Cinema, Literature? Why do you attach such stupid patterns to culture? Maybe you shouldn’t sit at the computer, did the bourgeoisie invent it? And the phone can also throw it away? And the tv?
                  I understand your repertoire is limited to the Soviet marches, Kalinka Malinka and a couple of songs by Alla Pugacheva?
                  1. Tambov we ...
                    Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 21: 06 New
                    +1
                    They tried to test me, my country, more than once in the foreseeable millennium with iron and fire. I’m quite seriously trying to build a dialogue with you, but as if against a wall with peas ... Have you been so brainwashed by this rap that you refuse to understand truths that are very simple to understand? Yes, - literature can bring out the brain, no worse than 7,62. A cinema and even more so. And the music. You are being duped insolently, but you, without understanding and not guessing, (excuse me), are trying to tell you in a nutshell that being a boob is cool!

                    PS I was also young, I listened with pleasure to Tsepelinov, Pink Floyd, ABBU. I don’t perceive Alka - Moscow habalk. But in the Soviet marches I see nothing wrong - they proved their own during the Great Patriotic War.
                    1. Gooch
                      Gooch 11 June 2013 21: 29 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Tambov we ...
                      Yes, - literature can bring out the brain, no worse than 7,62. A cinema and even more so. And the music. You are being duped insolently, but you, without understanding and not guessing, (excuse me), are trying to tell you in a nutshell that being a boob is cool!

                      The product of Western culture - Frank Sinatra, Louis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, Elvis Presley, The Beatles, James Hetfield, Liam Howlett, Andre Tanneberger are all idiots, and downs, but Yosya Kobzon or Zhanna Aguzarova in a compartment with Alla Pugmoyur and Lyugovicheva Lyubova Gyuchenko and geniuses who have made an unbearable contribution to the development of world music / cinema ..

                      As for the marches, I can only worry about you .. and recall that the countries whose marches you are frantically trying to promote under the gallant mentions of the Pioneers and the Komsomol have not existed for more than 20 years. boobies Americans with parashny music and cinema did not fall apart, and the paradise of the earthly USSR with center military marches, Yosei Kobzon and Pugacheva, was sharply dismantled from the world stage.

                      But in the Soviet marches I see nothing wrong - they proved their own during the Great Patriotic War.

                      Maybe it’s time to leave alone the great national one? it’s the 21st century.)
                      1. Tambov we ...
                        Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 21: 37 New
                        0
                        Okay, I won’t argue with you anymore, you will understand with age. But I’ll give you the fact of the influence of another mass culture - in London, a drummer was chopped into a vinaigrette. And before that rap was held in high esteem (and all of Africa came in large numbers), as elsewhere - Uncle Sam not only sends troops. Is this not enough, or is it not clear?
                      2. Gooch
                        Gooch 11 June 2013 21: 50 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tambov we ...
                        Okay, I won’t argue with you anymore, you will understand with age. But I’ll give you the fact of the influence of another mass culture - in London, a drummer was chopped into a vinaigrette. And before that rap was held in high esteem (and all of Africa came in large numbers), as elsewhere - Uncle Sam not only sends troops. Is this not enough, or is it not clear?

                        Rappers, who came from Nigeria, after having listened to songs from the last album by Snupp Dog and Fifti cent, attacked the drummer of the parade troops of Great Britain and shredded him like fresh celery, the investigators found that half an hour before the murder, the Nigerian terrorists listened to the song Timati feat . Grigory Leps - London, which caused an apathy and provoked the murder of a drummer, witnesses point out that before the murder, the Nigerians repeated the phrase "FIFTICENT AKBAR!" which gives reason to believe that the murder was committed from the extremist motives of radical Exibitism, one of the groups controlled by an alkaide who calls herself - "D.E.Ts. L."
                      3. Tambov we ...
                        Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 22: 45 New
                        0
                        The Lord is with you. Listen, get excited - no one forbids.
  • dmb
    dmb 11 June 2013 10: 36 New
    +3
    Fashion, a whimsical thing. REP is a fashion; will pass pretty quickly. I think not much faster than the Great Land Writer of Russian Solzhenitsyn is forgotten. And although some people really ... and put him on a par with Leo Tolstoy, the last will be remembered for centuries, and this, for now, by the Livanov Minobraz. So with REP.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 33 New
      +3
      At the expense of Solzhenitsyn I agree, there has been NO agitation for a long time, I was stunned and shed, a "patriot" !!!
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 11 June 2013 20: 42 New
        0
        The mere fact that he (Solzhenitsin), the West accepted with a bang about a long time speaks. And we have it already in the classics along with Tolstoy, Pushkin erected ... Fucking fifth leg at the bicycle.
    2. Trailer
      11 June 2013 13: 45 New
      -1
      [quote = dmb] Fashion, a whimsical thing. REP is a fashion; will pass pretty quickly. / quote] 20 years, but no end in sight. Listen to the solo songs of Vladi, Krek, Pavel Champ - a lot of good lyrics.
  • Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 11 June 2013 10: 53 New
    +2
    At the beginning of the 80, we had our own underground, something was eliminated, something remained. The then Russian rock protested against the system using fashionable sounds for that time. "Change" is the anthem of the late 80's. So our “monsters” of Russian rock grew up. Who can say that Kinchev is not singing patriotic songs now? Each generation has its own music, the main thing is that the lyrics are "correct". And what style of listening is everyone's personal business. Although the title of the article is more than ambitious.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 11: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Middle Brother
      Who can say that Kinchev is not singing patriotic songs now? Each generation has its own music, the main thing is that the lyrics are "correct". And what style of listening is everyone's personal business. Although the title of the article is more than ambitious.

      “Living on our land, it is important to feel that this is a country chosen by God, that we should be proud that we were born on this earth. Because we are Russian and Orthodox people. We do not need anything basurmansky. We already have everything! ”- said Kostya Kinchev into the“ Shure ”microphone, taking the first chords on the“ Gibson ”guitar connected to the“ Marshall ”amplifier.
      1. Middle-brother
        Middle-brother 11 June 2013 13: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Gooch
        We already have everything! ”- said Kostya Kinchev into the“ Shure ”microphone, taking the first chords on the“ Gibson ”guitar connected to the“ Marshall ”amplifier.

        this is a separate conversation. For example, I love my homeland, but I won’t buy a Kalina fret.
        1. skullcap
          skullcap 11 June 2013 13: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Middle Brother
          For example, I love my Motherland, but I will not buy fret -kalin.

          And according to the program of auto junk, although I could take some logan, I still took the VAZ.
          Because apart from words, sometimes you have to show your position in deeds.
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 June 2013 13: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Gooch
        this is a country chosen by god

        I was sure that this was said by a representative of a small nation, I read further Kinchev, mmmm ... either this is inaccurate or we don’t know anything about him.
  • garik404
    garik404 11 June 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    A strong theme is the group “Little Will Not Seem” - the song “K141, Depth 108”.
    The song about the events on the "Kursk" 12.08.2000/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  • Vtel
    Vtel 11 June 2013 11: 07 New
    +3
    As can be seen from the above, rap is the basis of modern youth culture, which is successfully used by many interested parties.

    Thank God not all. All this is not Russa - Africa and Africa in America.
  • gribnik777
    gribnik777 11 June 2013 11: 22 New
    +1
    As can be seen from the above, rap is the basis of modern youth culture, which is successfully used by many interested parties.


    Details for details.
  • snek
    snek 11 June 2013 11: 33 New
    0
    99% of rap is a dull waste of life, however, admittedly, there are decent examples (Russian subtitles can be included below in both cases)

  • individual
    individual 11 June 2013 11: 34 New
    +2
    REP is neither good nor bad.
    Musical preferences are changing.
    Us boys 50-60s listening The Beatles, Shuttles and Rolling Stone were not understood by parents.
    Now, my parents and I easily sing them "Oh frost, frost ..."
    1. skullcap
      skullcap 11 June 2013 13: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: individ
      We, the boys 50-60-s listening to the "Beatles", "Shuttle" and "Rolling Stone" did not understand the parents.

      I guess we lived on different planets. Because in our parallel from the 3 classes there was a 4-5 person who prayed for the Beatles, but we didn’t consider them as people.
      Apparently in different places it was different.
      By the way, I finished school in 69. Of the 40 people in the 22 class, they graduated from universities, two worked at Baikonur (one seems to be still there), four became officers.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 11 June 2013 18: 40 New
        +1
        right, for example, we listened to Lube
  • Obliterator
    Obliterator 11 June 2013 11: 37 New
    +1
    Oh well, there is no music - even the texts do not save. I listened to the same Oblomov - nothing but the despair does not carry from these texts. Her life is enough, nafig still listen to about it. I'd rather listen to a thread like Manovar - from heavy metal and downhole texts, healthy anger for solving problems appears.
    <iframe width = "560" height = "315" src = "http://www.youtube.com/embed/ePpOCrNh564" frameborder = "0" allowfullscreen> </iframe>
  • serzhserzh86
    serzhserzh86 11 June 2013 11: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Gooch
    Vasya Oblomov

    are you kidding me ??? it’s such a ch.m.o ... I sang with Ksenia, sang with Parthenov ... and I’ll sing with Nemtsov, Bulk and Udalts, and finally there will be full stuffing ...
    this g .... on generally need to send to Siberian wilderness

    A pencil - yes, that’s the point ... there are few rappers now who deserve attention and respect ... and before they weren’t easy, before rappers sought popularity for the sake of earning ... and now the philosophy is changing, the meaning is pouring into the lyrics, well, patriotism is already visible.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 11: 49 New
      -1
      Quote: serzhserzh86
      Pencil - yes, that makes sense ...

      ahahaha :)) Everything is clear)

      are you kidding me ??? this is such a ch.m.o ... he sang with Ksenia, sang with a parfenovym

      My dear, they sang with him, and not him :) Oblomov without producers, without connections, without money made his way, and all kinds of TPuchnye repercussions only drove money into the extrada, he also sang Efremov and Oblomov, he’s second-rate now also? :) Still Noise, Cord are they second-rate people too? )
      I personally put on Sobchak, and Parfyonov a normal man.)

      Even himself, the sun-kissed GDP does not disdain to hang out with Ksyushka, and here you are overlooking Oblomov
      1. serzhserzh86
        serzhserzh86 11 June 2013 12: 35 New
        0
        I won’t even answer to such nonsense ...
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  • rauffg
    rauffg 11 June 2013 11: 47 New
    -2
    Well, here's a selection of recent events in Russia from Rap-Info:
  • Andrew 121
    Andrew 121 11 June 2013 11: 47 New
    -2
    I don’t like timati in your rap, but Grotto is very ...
  • EDW
    EDW 11 June 2013 11: 49 New
    +5
    I myself can’t stand rap categorically, but I don’t see the point of speaking hostile to him. I'm just for censorship.
    Just another direction in music appeared. (nondescript, alien to us, but what it is).
    Once upon a time, the side of rock, and jazz, and blues, and rock and roll were the same malicious statements.
    This applies not only to music, but also to subcultures in general. (music is only a small part of the information war)
    But contrary to Western ideologists, Russian rock appeared from rock, and Russian motorcyclists came out of biker subcultures, etc. )
    And as a tool for influencing youth, rap is quite suitable for itself - the West uses this against us, obviously. In such a situation, it is necessary to confuse the cards of potential friends - to give way to worthy performers and not to their imitators. Now, if in the media and on zombie vision to introduce normal censorship ... it has long been as necessary. (and any artificially untwisted monkey-like g ** but of the type T * mother and Co. should not be aired at all, because this is not an example for the younger generation).
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 11 June 2013 12: 50 New
      +4
      It is necessary not to introduce censorship, but to change the owners of the channels — solid Jews, where did you see a Jewish patriot of RUSSIA? Call at least one volunteer! Honored veterans also left for Israel, because they consider it their homeland! And we have the power to "roll the field" mixed with thieves !!! Power, which do not care about the people !!!!
  • Abakanets
    Abakanets 11 June 2013 11: 56 New
    +3
    REP-feces. Fans rap biomass.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 11 June 2013 11: 58 New
      -1
      Quote: Abakanets
      REP-feces. Fans rap biomass.
  • rassom
    rassom 11 June 2013 12: 01 New
    -1
    this rap catches and motivates
  • individual
    individual 11 June 2013 12: 06 New
    -2
    Friends...
    Listen, look no rap:
    http://youtu.be/hwQsqlJeuX4
  • George
    George 11 June 2013 12: 13 New
    +3

    Hello all.
    I learned this song by heart.
    Style, as they say in taste and color, but there are things worthy of attention.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 11 June 2013 12: 15 New
    0
    If you do not take rap and hip hop jesters hanging out on television, the texts have the meaning and truth of life.
    Modern rappers have become adults with wives and children. Their texts became more balanced and the semantic load is very large. Unlike pop. In some ways, rap has bypassed everyone and rockers today. The old guard is engaged in business and the young one hit a rockopops. Perhaps the early Basta Nagano is the brightest representative of the movement, in my opinion. And by the way, Galich also sings songs of the war years. Guf has grown a lot. Yes, and many who. Something like that.
    1. Trailer
      11 June 2013 13: 47 New
      -1
      Discovered by Paul Champ and Vlad. Also good performers!
  • Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 11 June 2013 12: 18 New
    +2
    Any modern pop culture, including rap and other tripe is destructive. All these hypocrites speak of "geopolitical security" and the youth listening to this monkey music smokes and gets drunk.
    1. serzhserzh86
      serzhserzh86 11 June 2013 12: 38 New
      -1
      Yes, it’s not the music that drunk the young people ... to ban the showing of 99% of Western films, programs, etc. - the result will not be long in coming ... television zombies, not rap ...
  • rassom
    rassom 11 June 2013 12: 52 New
    +2
    you need to educate people and learn to think with your head not only about your ass (beer every day is the norm, a lover or a whore is the norm, mate for women and children is the norm, bribes are the norm, smoking of schoolchildren is the norm, etc., etc. P.)
    The "moral compass" has been hit by many and it doesn’t bother anyone ...
  • rereture
    rereture 11 June 2013 12: 55 New
    +2
    Rap is feces. In their tests there is nothing vital.
    All their work can be divided into three categories:
    1. Drink / Drugs
    2. Tearful love songs
    3. Gop stop / problems with the police

    As a result, fragile minds begin to think that you don’t need to work, you can earn money by hopping, stealing or doing illegal things, it’s better to spend earned money on booze, dope and whores. On the face of the moral decomposition of the characters of the texts, and most importantly they are satisfied and do not want to change anything.


    I don’t argue, there are good songs, but to search for them is the same as to search for undigested seeds in dere through its absorption.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 11 June 2013 22: 07 New
      -2
      Did you listen to the rap ????? Judging by the comments there.
      1. rereture
        rereture 12 June 2013 22: 32 New
        0
        I listened. Ellipsis for example, but their songs are not relevant somewhere since 2003.
  • True
    True 11 June 2013 13: 04 New
    +1
    I HATE REP !!! Fecal texts for degenerates, music - what are you talking about ... REP - as a national idea - a clinic !!!
  • rereture
    rereture 11 June 2013 13: 08 New
    0
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=RU&hl=ru&client=mv-google&v=8wQmmhN5R-Y

    This is how our foreign friends see Russian rap.
  • KononAV
    KononAV 11 June 2013 13: 12 New
    0
    There are pros and cons to this.
  • skullcap
    skullcap 11 June 2013 13: 20 New
    +3
    I also can't stand this degradante musical style. And I'm not alone. Even some of the very young people, as evidenced by one of the inscriptions on the wall of our entrance: "Rap - this is feces."
    However, with both hands I support the idea of ​​the author to use it as an information weapon.
    No matter how unpleasant it is to realize, but all people have never been fully culturally, morally and morally educated. Now, in connection with the general degradation of society, the layer, to speak of intolerant, poorly educated and uncultured people has grown incredibly. And do not deceive yourself: they won't go to the philharmonic to classical music even for free. They simply are not given (at least at the current moment) to understand it.
    But this layer at the expense of its mass and tendency to external zombies is a serious (even - VERY serious) political force. Therefore, it is not permissible to leave this power to the mercy of fate, because the enemies of our state and people will immediately saddle it. Recall when the __ fools, who in August 91 th rushed to the BMP in Moscow. The situation may well be repeated.
    Therefore, I respectfully bow my head before Putin, who visited the Sabbath of rap artists. (I would not have found for such a feat of forces) and I think that if rap cannot be destroyed, then it should be headed.
    Rap is a weapon and must be used. No matter how disgusting it is.
    Although in parallel, it is necessary to take all possible measures to raise the general cultural level of people, especially young people. Many of them have never heard Russian folk songs and they have nothing to compare with. I remember how shocking it was for my daughter's friends when I found them in the Ducks Fly YouTube performed by the Voronezh Choir. For them, a completely unknown world has opened up, as it turned out - a soulful and very beautiful.
    I recommend young people visiting this site to repeat this experiment and, if possible, share it with their friends.
    I apologize to rap admirers for the harsh tone of the comment, but men should swallow pills without gilding. And the fact that rap is an indisputable example of the degradation of musical culture is an objective fact.
  • lexe
    lexe 11 June 2013 13: 22 New
    0
    I like rap. But there is something of hopelessness in it. Hopelessness can also be a relaxation. When you understand that you are nobody and call you in any way, you relax and soberly look at things. And you become a driven animal with attentive eyes. You can send power to ... but not more. And the authorities will not lose anything ... she’s even glad. REP is an output of protest energy and this output of power is needed sooo!
    Hypothetically ... what will we sing on the ruins of the Washington Regional Committee? It feels like all the music and its styles are scientifically proven order. Where is the novelty in the performance, coming from the depths of the human heart?
  • knn54
    knn54 11 June 2013 13: 27 New
    +4
    Today he plays jazz
    and tomorrow will sell the homeland!
    ...
    Today he's dancing rap
    and set fire to our bread tomorrow!
    Today he plays rock
    and tomorrow he’ll take off his wallet!
    PS 1944 Quote from Das Schwarze Corps magazine: "... The danger of Americanism is that it leads the young away from responsibility, decency and camaraderie."
  • True
    True 11 June 2013 13: 32 New
    +4
    All rap lyrics:
    cars
    chicks
    I'm a cool rapper, yo!
    All. Music for niggas
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 11 June 2013 22: 15 New
      -3
      Do not confuse rap and kitsch. Timati departed their koment.
  • zvereok
    zvereok 11 June 2013 13: 38 New
    +3
    REP is not mine.

    Another thing is that all these clips are clips, etc. Creation of an idol. We have every fan of twitching conditionally under rap or under Tchaikovsky. When will he try to write something worthwhile - a song or music?

    When will we move from a culture of consumption to a culture of creation?

    Unfortunately, I myself have long been bogged down in consumption. I remember in 90x when I was near 20 I wanted to create something for people to use it. So did not create anything sensible. And now, only thoughts about it visit the top of "creativity", solve computer problems that arise at work, which allows you and your family to earn a piece of bread.

    Sometimes it’s very sad that for some reason I can’t just pull my head to other people's rhythms. It has long seemed that this is not my life, that someone else, an absolutely alien self, lives with it.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 14: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: zvereok
      It has long seemed that this is not my life, that someone else, an absolutely alien self, lives with it.

      It does not seem that we are truly created in the image and likeness, and the main thing in this is the ability for creativity, the creative person is a "flute in the hands of God" - through him a new, high, eternal comes into our world. A person can grow only by creating, hence the struggle with this quality in a person (mostly small people) in a million ways, including rap, although if approached creatively it is probably possible to transform it into a harmless form.
  • Dawn
    Dawn 11 June 2013 13: 39 New
    +1
    Rap American propaganda - but I wonder how the Russians transform it into folk ditties laughing
    And the article clearly has a sinful origin.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 June 2013 14: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Dawn
      And the article clearly has a sinful origin.

      It seems that just 25 years of processing make themselves felt.
  • sergey261180
    sergey261180 11 June 2013 13: 43 New
    +2
    "Russian" G-rap full shnyaga, with the exception of some artists. Boredom-crying depressoids. One thing is because: you left me, there is no money, garbage. All. By the way, the rest of the music is the same. Russian rock is the same shnyaga. In the 80s, rock was considered revolutionary music, now - rap. If we listen to him, then it’s only Nigerian American, but at least it’s not clear what they are talking about.