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Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict because of provocations on the Golan

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Despite the difficult situation in the Golan, Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict. This was announced by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "Israel will not be involved in the civil war in Syria until the fire is used against us," the politician warned.


Meanwhile, another Israeli politician, Minister for Intelligence and Strategic Affairs Yuval Steinitz, said that the Russian peacekeeping mission in the Golan can hardly be realized. "The idea of ​​Vladimir Putin to send the Russian military to the Golan Heights to replace the Austrian peacekeepers is not feasible in practice," he said.

Israel should ensure its defense only by relying on its own strength. The situation with peacekeepers only emphasizes this, the Israeli prime minister is sure. “The problem with the UN contingent in the Golan clearly shows that Israel cannot trust its security to international contingents,” he said. Earlier, Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu discussed the situation in Syria over the phone, reminds Interfax.

The fighting in the Golan Heights area took place on Thursday, June 7. Then the fighters of the Syrian Free Army took control of the only border crossing between Syria and the Golan. Under the attack came journalists VGTRK. During the battles wounded one Filipino peacemaker. Austria soon announced that 377 would withdraw its peacekeepers from the Golan Heights. Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed replacing the Austrians with Russian peacekeepers.
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  1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 June 2013 15: 24 New
    +6
    Che is stirring up again, the Austrians are leaving, Russia a member of the UN Security Council does not have the right to deploy its peacekeepers there, and 99% are sure that such an initiative will not take place in the UN Security Council, they will immediately throw a veto! and something is not clear at all they will be changed there by who the thread will be !? hi
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 25 New
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      Syrian army blocked Islamists fleeing Al-Quseyr, in the area of ​​Al-Sharqah Bouweid



      Syrian government forces liberated the Al-Masoudia and Al-Salkhiya villages north of Al Quseir from Islamic bandit groups and partially blocked the militant group in Al-Buwaid Al-Sharqiyah. To date, the army controls most of the villages for 12-15 km. from El Quseir.

      On June 7, one of the bandit groups was destroyed in Al-Buweida, and artillery and aircraft were striking the village. In Al-Masoudiya, about 50 pick-up trucks with machine guns, a Shilka anti-aircraft gun and anti-aircraft guns belonging to the Membij battalion were confiscated. Special operations are being carried out in the villages of Dmeina al-Sharqiyah and Husseinia near the Damascus-Homs highway.

      According to the Anna-News agency, during the clearing of Al-Salkhiya, the military discovered a whole complex of professionally constructed defensive structures, which include a network of concrete bunkers and tunnels.

      Warehouses with equipment and weapons were found underground: pickups with machine guns and anti-aircraft guns, heat-guided missiles, gas masks, 107-mm artillery guns. caliber. In the bunkers, militants fled from El Quseir.

      The small village of just over 20 yards was turned by militants into a real fortified area. The scale of the built shelters is amazing: completely concreted tunnels the size of a subway tunnel with high ceilings, which can fit a car and even a tank, tens of kilometers long. The network of underground transport routes has not yet been fully explored by the Syrian military. Only 14 km were surveyed. tunnels.

      From Al-Salkhiya, a tunnel leads to the village of Ad-Dabaa and the city of Al Quseir. Presumably it is stretched to the village of Jusia on the Lebanese border.

      El Quseir continues to mine. During the sweeping of the city territory in one of the wells a group of 29 people was discovered, including two women and three children. All civilians in the pit were saved.
      1. Tarpon
        Tarpon 10 June 2013 15: 36 New
        +4
        The small village of just over 20 yards was turned by militants into a real fortified area.

        It would be nice to walk around this fortified area with volumetric bomb bombs.
        1. Nick
          Nick 10 June 2013 20: 13 New
          +5
          Quote: Tarpon
          It would be nice to walk around this fortified area with volumetric bomb bombs.

          But only if there are no peace ...
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 19 New
            0
            And they are there.
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 02 New
          -1
          Sadyuga! the guys did everything manually. God bless them.
      2. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 10 June 2013 15: 47 New
        +4
        How can you dig it?
        Only special equipment.
        You don’t dig a lot with shovels.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 10 June 2013 18: 47 New
          12
          Quote: Andrey_K
          How can you dig it?
          Only special equipment.
          You don’t dig a lot with shovels.

          Hamas taught them this. On the way, Hamas made holes in the entire border with Egypt, and even drives cars through them, and all without special equipment, with only shovels and wheelbarrows. And in general, have you ever heard such an expression "Two soldiers from the construction battalion are replacing an excavator"?
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 06 New
            +1
            and the Hamas construction battalion also chews pills. Here is the efficiency above. And there are plenty of people there.
          2. sasha.28blaga
            sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 03: 10 New
            +2
            "Two soldiers from the construction battalion are replacing an excavator," and one sailor, yuy, is replacing a new tractor. Have you ever heard this?
            1. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 11 June 2013 07: 53 New
              +3
              And we had "and the air defense soldier replaces at least someone!"
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 04 New
          0
          Digging. Googled about the border of the Gaza Strip and Egypt. There they are .... And the Zahal is bombing. And they dig everything. Or digging. Until spring came to Egypt.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 26 New
      +5
      Syrian army crushed last hotbed of resistance in al-Qa'eira al-Sharqiyah



      Syrian state television reported today the destruction of the latest gangs in the village of Al-Bouweida Al-Sharqiyah, 11 kilometers northeast of the city of Al Quseir.

      The suppression of the last major hotbed of resistance between Quseir and Homs actually completed the operation to liberate the entire border region with Lebanon, which has long been the transshipment base of extremists.

      On June 5, the Syrian army attacked the key firing positions of the militants, as a result of which they suffered heavy losses and were forced to retreat north, to the area of ​​the village of Ad-Dabaa. The very next day, June 6, the troops destroyed part of the gangs in Ad-Dabaa and forced their remains to flee further north - to Al-Bouweid Al-Sharqiyah.

      On June 7, government troops completely cleared the gangs of the villages of Al-Masoudia and Al-Salkhiya and blocked the Islamist group in the Al-Buwaid region. During the operation to liberate Al-Salkhiya, in this small village of more than 20 yards, a powerful fortified area of ​​militants was discovered, built in accordance with all the rules for creating fortifications.

      In Salchia, bandits built a network of concrete bunkers and huge concrete tunnels, one branch of which leads south - to Ad-Dabaa and Al-Quseir. Warehouses with a large number of weapons, ammunition and equipment were discovered here. The capture of the fortified area in Salkhia blocked the militants' southward path and made it possible to conduct an operation today to clean up Al-Bouweid Al-Sharqiyah.

      The defeat of a large group of Islamists and SSA militants in a vast territory near the Lebanese border will allow the Syrian military in the near future to focus on the elimination of gangs in Homs, Aleppo and Damascus.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 27 New
      14
      Abdelkader Saleh, leader of the At-Tawhid brigade, killed in Aleppo, Syria



      The SANA agency reported that the day before, during a special operation in Aleppo, the leader of the Islamist "At-Tawhid Brigade" Abdelkader Saleh, nicknamed Hadji Marea, was killed.

      Last month, Saleh, with large militant forces, went to help gangs blocked in the city of El Quseir in the province of Homs. In the battles for Quseir, he was injured and after government forces drove out the gangs from the city, Saleh returned to Aleppo.

      The At-Tawhid Brigade is a radical Islamist group that is emerging as the dominant force in Aleppo. The day before, in the Tariq al-Bab region of Aleppo, militants of one of the Islamist groups tore off the green-black-white flags of the opposition with red stars and raised the black flags of al-Qaeda over the area.

      During 2012, the Al-Tawhid Brigade seized several military installations in Aleppo province. The militants of the armed formation attacked the army columns, carried out sabotage and terrorist attacks.

      Despite the ties between At-Tawhid and the terrorists from Jabhat al-Nusra, armed clashes often occur between the gangs of the groups. In Aleppo, real battles have already broken out between them, on a scale not inferior to military operations against government forces.

      The At-Tawhid militants also got it after the fall of El-Quseir. Bandits from the Al-Farouk and Jabhat al-Nusra groups considered them to be the main culprits of the defeat, because of which two days ago there were skirmishes between Al-Quseir and Homs.
      1. phantom359
        phantom359 10 June 2013 23: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Abdelkader Saleh, leader of the At-Tawhid brigade, killed in Aleppo, Syria



        The SANA agency reported that the day before, during a special operation in Aleppo, the leader of the Islamist "At-Tawhid Brigade" Abdelkader Saleh, nicknamed Hadji Marea, was killed.

        Last month, Saleh, with large militant forces, went to help gangs blocked in the city of El Quseir in the province of Homs. In the battles for Quseir, he was injured and after government forces drove out the gangs from the city, Saleh returned to Aleppo.

        The At-Tawhid Brigade is a radical Islamist group that is emerging as the dominant force in Aleppo. The day before, in the Tariq al-Bab region of Aleppo, militants of one of the Islamist groups tore off the green-black-white flags of the opposition with red stars and raised the black flags of al-Qaeda over the area.

        During 2012, the Al-Tawhid Brigade seized several military installations in Aleppo province. The militants of the armed formation attacked the army columns, carried out sabotage and terrorist attacks.

        Despite the ties between At-Tawhid and the terrorists from Jabhat al-Nusra, armed clashes often occur between the gangs of the groups. In Aleppo, real battles have already broken out between them, on a scale not inferior to military operations against government forces.

        The At-Tawhid militants also got it after the fall of El-Quseir. Bandits from the Al-Farouk and Jabhat al-Nusra groups considered them to be the main culprits of the defeat, because of which two days ago there were skirmishes between Al-Quseir and Homs.

        Fine. Wood carving has gone.
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 12 New
        +2
        spiders in the bank. And the Israeli one of these days doubted who was worse for them - these or Assad. I was surprised at him :)
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 26 New
          -1
          Assad supports Hezbollah guys, for example. Are you sure they are better?
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 03: 25 New
            +2
            you know them well for a long time. New hemorrhage is always worse.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 28 New
      17
      Part of Aleppo's neighborhoods liberated as part of the Syrian army's operation "Northern Storm"



      As part of the operation of the Syrian army "Northern Storm", launched the day before to the north-west of Aleppo, a number of neighborhoods were liberated in the cities of Kafr Hamra, Anadan, Khreitan, as well as in the Kurdish regions of Aleppo Sheikh Maksud and Bustan al-Basha.

      Preparation for the operation began last week by increasing the number of army units in the main directions along the Aleppo - Aazaz road. In Kafr Hamr, with the help of rocket launchers and artillery, the suppression of enemy firing points, command centers and militant shelters began.

      On June 8, at about 17:00 pm local time, the Syrian government forces began artillery training, which continued for several hours intermittently. This morning, the army attacked in a coordinated manner key gang positions on a vast territory along the Kafr-Khamra-Khreitan-Anadan-Khayyan-Bianun-Zakhraa-Nubbol line.

      According to the Lebanese TV channel Al-Manar, today during the day the army "advanced in the areas of Kafr Hamra, Khreitan, Anadan, Hayyan." The main task of the military is to cut off the supply of militants in Aleppo from Turkey.

      At the same time, fights in Aleppo itself intensified. Today, gangs were attacked in the areas of Al-Leramun, Sheikh Maksud, Bustan Al-Bash, Bustan Al-Qasr and Al-Amiriya. Around Aleppo are concentrated significant forces of the Syrian army with dozens of tanks and other military equipment. The liberation of the northwestern suburbs will remove the blockade from the airfield of Ming and the Kurdish city of Afrin.

      1. alexkross83
        alexkross83 10 June 2013 18: 15 New
        11
        It's nice to see the native technique in the picture. Everything is painfully familiar ...
        1. old man54
          old man54 10 June 2013 22: 56 New
          +3
          Duc and then :) The picture is not from Syria, but it’s still old, probably from some other teachings, and our technique, so the colors are not deserted! The numbers are black on the car. :) Why so, huh, Sith? :) Well, right there, no fools are going to!
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 23: 04 New
            +2
            Here is a direct link to you http://warsonline.info/siriya/v-ramkach-operatsii-siriyskoy-armii-severniy-shtor
            m-osvobozhdena-chast-kvartalov-aleppo.html
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 23: 30 New
              -2
              Car numbers ...
          2. Che
            Che 11 June 2013 21: 52 New
            -1
            Quote: old man54
            old man54

            No need to run into Sith, no one caught him on a forgery. God forbid everyone gives info.
            1. old man54
              old man54 12 June 2013 05: 49 New
              0
              Quote: Che
              Quote: old man54
              old man54

              No need to run into Sith, no one caught him on a forgery. God forbid everyone gives info.

              Gives info - well done, no one blames him for this. But with the photo ... see below, a larger version, look and understand everything.
        2. builder
          builder 11 June 2013 01: 21 New
          +8
          Quote: alexkross83
          Everything is painfully familiar ...
          Especially numbers and "Arab" faces of tankers.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 54 New
            -2
            By the way, yes. 8)
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 10 June 2013 18: 28 New
        +9
        The quality of the photograph does not allow us to say more precisely .. but apparently these are fresh tanks from Russia or at least sets of DZs arrived, although the tanks have side screens all intact ... it still looks like fresh from Russia.
        PS,

        Ukraine .. do not let the head of the Wahhabi hydra rise in the Crimea, although it is already showing its teeth !!! Then it will be hard to fight under "public" opinion.
        1. olviko
          olviko 10 June 2013 19: 15 New
          +2
          Of course, the BDK is not being driven empty in Tartus.
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 17 New
          0
          already given: ((((
      3. builder
        builder 11 June 2013 01: 12 New
        0
        The entry of Russian troops in Ossetia.
        1. old man54
          old man54 12 June 2013 05: 47 New
          0
          Quote: stroitel
          The entry of Russian troops in Ossetia.

          no, the fighters’s faces weren’t so relaxed there, remember the reports! It’s some kind of maneuver, the guys out there are smoking, talking.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 32 New
      +8
      West began large-scale exercises near the southern Syrian borders



      In Jordan, near the border with Syria, the day before, large-scale military exercises of the army of the Hashemite kingdom began with the participation of units of the West and the Persian Gulf. A total of about 8 troops from 000 countries take part in the exercises.

      This year, 2013 American soldiers, as well as military personnel from Britain, France and others, including Arab states, are taking part in the exercise called Vigilant Lion 4 this year.

      At a press conference to mark the start of the exercise, the American and Jordanian military stressed that the maneuvers had nothing to do with the civil war in Syria. According to the official version, the exercises are practicing counter-terrorism scenarios and "fighting insurgencies", reports newsru.co.il.

      Earlier, the United States reported that by the start of the exercise it would send a battery of Patriot interceptor missiles and f-16 aircraft to Jordan, which may remain in the kingdom after the completion of the exercises.

      The exercises will last two weeks - from June 9 to 22. Despite the statements of the organizers that they are in no way connected with the situation in Syria, the tasks worked out fit into the training of the Jordanian military on actions in the adjacent territory.

      It is worth noting that the Vigilant Lion exercise is being held for the second time and coincides in time with the course of hostilities in Syria. Last year, 2012 people took part in the Vigilant Lion 12 exercise. Damascus then accused the West of preparing an intervention, but the US said the exercises were long planned.

      Recall that in Jordan there are militant training camps for their further transfer to Syria. The media has repeatedly received information that experts from the United States participate in their training, although Washington rejects such allegations. In addition, in the spring of this year, a group of American military specialists was sent to Amman to plan militant operations in Syria.
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 10 June 2013 17: 33 New
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The training will last two weeks - from 9 to 22 on June.

        What an ominous date is 22 of June. Naglosaksokoshera love symbolism. So you have to be careful.
      2. olviko
        olviko 10 June 2013 19: 24 New
        +6
        In Turkey, Putin muddied the spring - Erdogan is now not up to Syria. Now it is the turn of Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to feel the spring aggravation.
        1. Yuriy3005
          Yuriy3005 10 June 2013 21: 05 New
          +9
          "Spring" in Turkey - minus Turkey. Russian peacekeepers in the Golan Heights minus Israel. So it would be necessary for Iran to threaten to close Orzun at once, there will be a minus of the FSA, the UAE and Saudi Arabia with Qatar laughing
          1. sergaivenski
            sergaivenski 10 June 2013 21: 44 New
            +1
            It seems that behind the events in Tunisia, in Qatar, in Syria, someone is behind the scenes
            worth it !!! And this someone is generously financing the so-called Syrian free
            army, and formations that help Assad. And all this katavasiya started in order to
            pocket foreign oil !!! As in Libya, in Iraq !!!
          2. old man54
            old man54 10 June 2013 22: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Yuri3005
            "Spring" So it would be necessary for Iran to threaten Orzun immediately to close the minus FSA, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia with Qatar laughing

            So Iran has long threatened this with world Zionism! He said that if he suspects himself, he will immediately mine the full strait! In NAT were alarmed, train to mine. :))
          3. SPBOBL
            SPBOBL 11 June 2013 01: 06 New
            +1
            And stick S-300 or 500 everywhere ... let’s stand ...
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 23 New
          0
          When did he have time !? There used to be a hand of Moscow, now - his?
      3. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 18 New
        0
        So forever they will choose such sparring partners for themselves, and after they are proud: they say we went through fire and water ... (at the photo)
      4. Che
        Che 11 June 2013 21: 58 New
        0
        A vigilant lion's eyes would be directed in the other direction. Gringo wake up.
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 33 New
      +2
      In Baghdad, near the police station, an explosion



      On June 9, an explosion occurred in the capital of Iraq, Baghdad. As a result of the terrorist attack seven people died, more than twenty were injured.

      The explosion rang out in one of the Shiite quarters of the Iraqi capital, near a police station a mined car flew into the air. According to local police, the attack by the militants was aimed at law enforcement officers and their target was precisely the police station.

      In Iraq, there is a full-scale interfaith civil war, explosions come almost every day. On the eve of June 8, 18 people became victims of attacks and explosions in various parts of Iraq, more than 50 were injured.

      On May 27, 18 explosions thundered in the Iraqi capital. On this day, 82 people died and more than 150 were injured. Local authorities have no doubt that the series of these attacks was organized by Sunni militants associated with al-Qaeda.

      The authorities cannot stop the wave of violence between the two Iraqi religious communities - Shiites and Sunnis. The contradictions between them are only growing, which is successfully used by the Iraqi wing of al-Qaeda and numerous groups of militants. The interfaith conflict and the Kurds, who control the northern regions of Iraq, the richest in oil, are at hand.
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 28 New
        +3
        Thanks to Bush. He brought democracy.
        But I think: controlled chaos, how controlled is it? The best friend of the Libyan opposition has already received a dagger in joppa. Oh, the same hashimites and Saudis and Qatar play out with fire.
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 15: 39 New
      +9
      Fresh video from Syria

      Destruction of Wahhabis in Jobar


      Stupid mercenaries from the North Caucasus in the ranks of Jabhat al-Nusra


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 7,8, 2013


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 9, 2013
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 16: 01 New
        +9
        Quote: Sith Lord
        In Salchia, bandits built a network of concrete bunkers and huge concrete tunnels,


        It would be better to look, otherwise no matter how it turned out with that "special car", the network of bunkers and concrete tunnels cannot be dug and built without special equipment, such construction will be immediately discovered from the air and stopped

        That's what I unearthed about these bunkers, it's generally fantastic


        The scale of the constructed shelters is amazing: completely concreted tunnels the size of a subway tunnel with high ceilings, where a car and even a tank tens of kilometers long can fit. The network of underground transport routes has not yet been fully explored by the Syrian military. Only 14 km were surveyed. tunnels. This is directly the state scale of construction
        1. atalef
          atalef 10 June 2013 16: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak
          from what I dug up about these bunkers, it's generally fantastic


          The scale of the built shelters is amazing: completely concreted tunnels the size of a subway tunnel with high ceilings, where a car and even a tank tens of kilometers long can fit. The network of underground transport routes has not yet been fully explored by the Syrian military. Only 14 km were surveyed. tunnels.

          In general, for the sake of interest, of course, without questioning the * veracity of the message * of the Syrian media.
          In general, someone represents the volume of earthwork and concrete work to create a network of tunnels in

          Quote: Vadivak
          where a car and even a tank tens of kilometers long can fit.

          When are they? 10 started digging years ago?
          In Syria, the mess of the whole 2 year.
          1. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 10 June 2013 16: 52 New
            +3
            When are they? 10 started digging years ago?

            For 3 years before the events. About 5 years.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 19: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              For 3 years before the events. About 5 years.


              Well, then this news would not be news, Vladimir agree, it is impossible to hide such a volume of work from aviation
              1. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 10 June 2013 21: 40 New
                +2
                Quote: Vadivak
                Well, then this news would not be news, Vladimir agree, it is impossible to hide such a volume of work from aviation

                It was still prepared in peacetime, under the guise of repair work.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 11 June 2013 07: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: Phantom Revolution
                  It was still prepared in peacetime, under the guise of repair work.

                  Hardly!
                  Syria is not Palestine for you, so that anyone would like to dig a muhabarat without the knowledge!
                  1. Phantom Revolution
                    Phantom Revolution 11 June 2013 08: 09 New
                    0
                    Too much work, otherwise the militants there would have been engaged not in battles and digging tunnels. If you are interested, see the questions and answers about Syria on the Anna Nyuvs channel, everything is briefly described there.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 11 June 2013 08: 59 New
                      0
                      Quote: Phantom Revolution
                      If you are interested, look at the questions and answers about Syria on the Anna Nyuvs channel, everything is briefly told there.

                      You know, I trust my knowledge in these matters!
                      In my opinion, the sizes of buildings are either exaggerated or they were erected by government forces!
                      in Syria to build such and so that no one would know in peacetime it was impossible!
              2. old man54
                old man54 10 June 2013 23: 24 New
                0
                But how do they dig undermines directly in prisons, with living warders and a system of internal control measures? And then, slowly, they dug, brought in weapons, were getting ready! And I don’t understand how everyone calls this WHO? This is a real civil war involving volunteers (for money) from other countries!
            2. atalef
              atalef 10 June 2013 20: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              For 3 years before the events. About 5 years

              What are you talking about, 5 years ago, they unanimously elected Assad. Who dug then?
              1. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 10 June 2013 21: 43 New
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                What are you talking about, 5 years ago, they unanimously elected Assad. Who dug then?

                I don’t argue with the people, because there it’s not the people who are fighting against Assad, but the mercenaries from all over the world and the radical layers that they exist in any country.
              2. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 10 June 2013 23: 09 New
                +4
                This contract was for the construction of a sewer. A Qatari firm built a network 3 years before the start of events. Search your Israeli resources.
                1. Aljavad
                  Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 47 New
                  0
                  Qatar again. Here is a restless man. On a grand scale.
              3. Yarbay
                Yarbay 11 June 2013 07: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                What are you talking about, 5 years ago, they unanimously elected Assad. Who dug then?

                5 years, even 2 years ago in Syria, it was impossible !!
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 19: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            In general, someone represents the volume of earthwork and concrete work


            Sasha and I are about the same. The tunnels in which tanks travel dozens of kilometers, is it that they dug the subway there? What is asked? it’s a shitty cloud of technology, people, how to disguise it, how much dough, I can hardly imagine. And journalists, and intelligence?
            1. atalef
              atalef 10 June 2013 20: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadivak
              Sasha and I are about the same. The tunnels in which tanks travel dozens of kilometers, is it that they dug the subway there? What is asked? it’s a shitty cloud of technology, people, how to disguise it, how much dough, I can hardly imagine. And journalists, and intelligence?

              Well, it’s probably worth remembering also about such a trifle as survey work, designing. work supervision. materials, at least such a * trifle * as ventilation systems. power supply, drainage. fire extinguishing, sewerage, water supply.
              Then surveying support.
              Putin did not understand the main message at all - that’s who it was necessary to hire for construction in Sochi. They would have built everything in a year and a half, and just for a penny.
              I am generally struck by the Syrian media, the impression is that Yu is intended for the backward layers of third world countries. People think they don’t understand the elementary.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 30 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                ventilation systems. power supply, drainage. fire extinguishing, sewerage, water supply.

                And as a conclusion - the next Aleppo station
                Quote: atalef
                Putin did not understand the main message at all - that was who should be hired for construction in Sochi.

                There was an attempt, but the builders were not allowed into the tunnel in 2008
              2. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 10 June 2013 21: 46 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                Putin did not understand the main message at all - that’s who it was necessary to hire for construction in Sochi. They would have built everything in a year and a half, and just for a penny.

                In fact, the subway could dig from Damascus to Tel Aviv) hi
            2. old man54
              old man54 10 June 2013 23: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Vadivak

              Sasha and I are about the same. The tunnels in which tanks travel dozens of kilometers, is it that they dug the subway there? What is asked?

              and what kind of duck about the tunnels for tanks? Can I link to the video? the text is necessary, I myself can write hell knows what. :) If the troops had discovered such tunnels, they would have shown it all over the world!
          3. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 44 New
            0
            maybe until the 73rd? and now come in handy.
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 12 June 2013 01: 26 New
          0
          Look at the tunnel from 3:20

          1. old man54
            old man54 12 June 2013 06: 06 New
            0
            Thanks Sith! But I really doubt that the tanks will be able to move through these tunnels in the video! If only toys. Horses seem to be able, height allows. But 12 km ... go nuts. I wonder why there were such labor costs, what is the reason for investing in this way? What does this tunnel lead to?
          2. Che
            Che 12 June 2013 08: 26 New
            0
            The Sith is how many Amer’s weapons were pumped into Syria. How many human lives they need to take to calm down and not get into the internal affairs of an independent state.
      2. mansur
        mansur 10 June 2013 16: 37 New
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        As transfers AZE.az, on the web there are published photos of Azerbaijani Mujahideen killed in Syria. It is reported that to date, about thirty Azerbaijanis have already been killed in Syria.

        Names of the dead are not named. Azerbaijanis voluntarily went to Syria to fight with Assad’s government troops.
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 10 June 2013 19: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: mansur
          Azerbaijanis voluntarily went to Syria to fight with Assad’s government troops.

          "Nothing personal just business!" (FROM)
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 19: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: Atlon
            "Nothing personal just business!" (FROM)


            Volunteers and business? Where business is already mercenaries
            1. Atlon
              Atlon 10 June 2013 19: 44 New
              10
              Quote: Vadivak
              Volunteers and business? Where business is already mercenaries

              Do you believe that they are voluntary ?! Something I did not notice behind them a tendency to altruism ... For some reason, watermelons do not give out for free in the markets.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 03 New
                +5
                Quote: Atlon
                Do you believe that they are voluntary ?! Something I did not notice behind them a tendency to altruism ... For some reason, watermelons do not give out for free in the markets.


                The question is not whether I believe or not. The question is what are the Azerbaijanis talking about their Wahhabi fellow countrymen
                http://www.aze.az/news_v_sirii_poqiblo_89885.html

                Watermelons do not give out for free? And who gives them out for free?
                1. Atlon
                  Atlon 10 June 2013 20: 31 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  And who gives them out for free?

                  And who will free up the ass under the bullets for free? Just do not need to brand me a disgrace, and remember the domestic war! The situation is not that at all!
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 42 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Atlon
                    And who will substitute for a freebie ass under bullets? The situation is not that at all!


                    You do not take into account the number of idiots, hungry people, drug addicts, and other volunteers in the world, but write referring to professional bandits, that is, mercenaries
                  2. smersh70
                    smersh70 10 June 2013 22: 44 New
                    +3
                    Azerbaijan, Baku, June 3 / corr. Trend I. Izzet /
                    From 20 to 25 May, in the border territories of Azerbaijan and Russia, in accordance with the approved plan of joint activities between the ministries of internal affairs of the two countries, comprehensive operational search and preventive measures were held under the code name "Border".
                    The main objective of the operation was the neutralization of transnational organized criminal groups and members of terrorist organizations, the identification and closure of channels for the supply of weapons, ammunition, explosives and devices, narcotic drugs, as well as financial and material resources aimed at illegal activities, the press told Trend on Monday. -the service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan.
                    As a result of measures taken, covering the Balaken, Gakh, Sheki, Oguz, Gabala, Guba, Gusar and Khachmaz districts, 52 people were detained, who were wanted under various articles of the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan, 29 people wanted by CIS countries were also detained, and the location of the five missing people was determined.
                    Ten guns, 11 pistols, 47 hunting rifles, sawn-off shotguns, 24 grenades, and almost seven thousand rounds of various calibers were seized illegally stored.
                    As a result of operational-search measures, 15 facts were revealed regarding drug trafficking. Almost 9,2 tons of wild plants containing narcotic substances were destroyed.
                    In the Guba and Oguz regions, four crimes were uncovered.
                    1. Aljavad
                      Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 54 New
                      +3
                      Keep it up! Well done.
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 10 June 2013 22: 38 New
                +2
                Quote: Atlon
                For some reason, watermelons are not distributed free of charge in the markets.



                How many times do you have to answer with the words of Comrade Saakhov - but do not confuse your pocket with the state fellow
                but seriously, in every society there are citizens. who go to war voluntarily ... and consider their war to be the most faithful. although I against the Wahabbits and on duty, willingly fought with them ...
                and at the end I want to remind you what to do with Russian volunteers in Yugoslavia .. the analogy is really not that. but all the same ..... hi or with an instructor Bolotnikov. who recently in Karabakh was seriously wounded by us ....
              3. Aljavad
                Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 51 New
                +2
                voluntarily - for the dough. Well, to the glory of the prophet.
                not forcibly.
            2. Aljavad
              Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 50 New
              +1
              volunteers - we write, mercenaries - in the mind.
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 10 June 2013 22: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Atlon
            Nothing personal, just business! "(C)


            OOOO.i then lit up)))) about Mansur it is clear .. I’m moving from which edge))))
            Athlone didn’t want to answer you .but it’s forcing))))))))))
        2. harrymur
          harrymur 10 June 2013 20: 40 New
          +4
          and here is just the situation with the bearded Dagi in Russia, oh baku baku, think what will the Russians do with you if they find out that our bearded people feed themselves from the Baku people, it’s not an easy task for the Baku people to convince the Russians that their hut from the edge and in Dagestan bearded men at the pasture, and the wounds themselves heal and the bullets in the body dissolve, or go out through the backyard)))
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 10 June 2013 22: 42 New
            +1
            In the Azerbaijani city of Guba, a joint meeting of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan and Russia was held on Tuesday with the participation of Interior Ministers Ramil Usubov and Rashid Nurgaliyev, as well as the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Dagestan Abdurashid Magomedov and the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the North Caucasus Federal District Sergey Chenchik.
            This was reported to Vesti.Az by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan.
            The operational situation in the border areas of Russia and Azerbaijan is stable today, Nurgaliyev said at a meeting.
            According to him, thanks to the coordinated actions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan and Russia, the operational situation in the border region is stable today and has a tendency to improve.
            Nurgaliev also noted the need to continue the practice of holding joint meetings, "since the last decade has clearly shown that problems can be effectively resolved only on the basis of a coordinated approach."

            According to the Russian minister, there are a number of issues, the solution of which requires joint action. "There is information about the crimes of international groups in the foreign economic, financial, banking and other spheres, and we must now make joint attempts to stop them," he said.
            Nurgaliyev also informed his Azerbaijani counterpart that various extremist organizations have not abandoned attempts to discredit the partnership between the two countries.
            "I believe that further work will make it possible to more effectively engage in the detection and suppression of crime in the border area," Nurgaliev said, stressing that an operation similar to the recently completed one is planned for next year.
            Following the meeting, the ministers signed a joint protocol.
            1. ultra
              ultra 11 June 2013 00: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: smersh70
              and Rashid Nurgaliyev,

              How long has this Tuesday been?
        3. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 10 June 2013 23: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: mansur
          As transfers AZE.az, on the web there are published photos of Azerbaijani Mujahideen killed in Syria. It is reported that to date, about thirty Azerbaijanis have been killed in Syria


          Do you know how many times this photograph of the court was put by the Armenians?
    8. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 10 June 2013 15: 55 New
      +3
      Israel cannot trust its security on international contingents, "he said.

      In the sense of NATO? Wow, condescended, received sight! laughing
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 01: 58 New
        0
        Nah, they are about Honduras.
    9. kind
      kind 10 June 2013 17: 16 New
      0
      You can come up with a pretext for hosting peacekeepers. At least the one in Tartus is our base.
    10. alexkross83
      alexkross83 10 June 2013 18: 09 New
      +2
      Peacekeepers will have to be deployed on the initiative of two parties with the approval of the UN Security Council. After Putin took such an initiative, he had a telephone conversation with Nitanyahu .... I don’t think that Israel has no brains, just many people now understand who they are real peacekeepers, it seems to me that they generally remained only in Russia.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 34 New
        -12
        Russia is one of the parties to the conflict. So Russian peacekeepers are not an option
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 10 June 2013 22: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Pimply
          Russia is one of the parties to the conflict. So Russian peacekeepers are not an option


          Grandma said in two ... But this is not about that. Please explain to me why Russia is there? I can’t understand by golly. Well, what will it give us (Russia)? Well, in the sense of what a joke to catch mines in your location, being knitted hand and foot by UN rules?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 42 New
            -2
            This is what we are talking about. The guys here just think that they just have to fly there - and the Airborne Forces will do what they want and they will defeat everyone right away. And the thing is that September 8th is the election 8)
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 11 June 2013 08: 30 New
              0
              Apparently it depends on what powers the group will have, what weapons they will allow to take with them.

              If just extras, like the current peacekeepers, who can shoot only if they start shooting at them, then from small arms. That nafig is necessary. And if they give a buffer zone and the task of establishing peace in it, plus the Syrian troops on the other side of the zone will also make a noise, then probably the only plus is feasible, Israel will not be provoked into a war with Syria, as if the Syrian forces were putting things in order.

              And here:

              According to Nezavisimaya Gazeta, the Russian Ministry of Defense plans to deploy a battalion of airborne forces from the 31 separate airborne assault brigade to the Golan, as well as an air group from Mi-8 transport helicopters and Mi-24 attack helicopters. 31-I brigade formed as a peacekeeping and staffed exclusively by contract soldiers.
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 11 June 2013 08: 52 New
                +1
                Quote: zvereok
                And if they give a buffer zone and the task of establishing peace in it,

                Let’s assume everything will be so, what should peacekeepers do in case of, for example, shelling of Israeli territory at night in the likeness of the Kassams? What can they do even theoretically, even if they are allowed to bring a couple of tanks there? The peacekeepers there were always pure in appearance, as they had not in any way influenced the situation in Lebanon at one time. Everyone understands this, therefore they won’t let the Russian Federation go there, as this will not change the situation (what Bibi said about protecting his country on his own — read figs what they can do, we’re better), but only increase pressure on Israel since Russia the party is interested and not at all neutral ...

                Of course, if they are full downs and begin to attack Russian soldiers, which is quite possible, then the matter will move. Are you ready to risk your soldiers, for the sake of FIG knows who and FIG knows where?
        2. old man54
          old man54 10 June 2013 23: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Pimply
          Russia is one of the parties to the conflict. So Russian peacekeepers are not an option

          Well, I think, Netanyahu, himself, without snotty, will figure out who is the party to the conflict and who is not! :))
        3. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 00 New
          0
          Yeah, and in general, are we all muddied? Putin's hand ?.
        4. Che
          Che 11 June 2013 22: 19 New
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          Russia is one of the parties to the conflict. So Russian peacekeepers are not an option

          Just a great option for Jews and Syrians. Vernyak, that neither Jews nor Syrians will trample on each other.
      2. SerAll
        SerAll 12 June 2013 00: 44 New
        +2
        Well, why, there is also Belarus! normal guys! they can be placed according to all the "laws"!
    11. Rioter
      Rioter 10 June 2013 20: 53 New
      +3
      Tel Aviv is not opposed to deploying Russian peacekeepers to the Golan Heights.
      This statement was made by Deputy Interior Minister Faina Kirshenbaum, who is now visiting Moscow. She noted that now the conflict region may be left without observers from the international community, so Russian assistance would be out of place.

      “We heard that some countries decided to withdraw their peacekeepers because they were injured. We are very sorry, although there was an agreement that forces would remain there. If President Putin decided to enter his forces, then I do not think that Israel will confront. We always want someone to be there to really monitor the situation, ”Kirshenbaum said on the air of Ekho Moskvy radio station.
      Recall, on June 7, 2013, Vladimir Putin said that at the request of the UN, Russia was ready to bring its peacekeepers to the Golan Heights in return for the departing peacekeepers from Austria. The President of Russia specified that he hoped for the consent of the regional powers.

      Earlier today, Alexei Pushkov, head of the State Duma’s committee on international affairs, suggested that Israel would not like Putin’s initiative. At the same time, he noted that the Russian presence in the disputed territory could prevent a war between Syria and Israel. In his opinion, it is worth revising the agreement 40 years ago, which prohibits permanent members of the UN Security Council from participating in such missions.
  2. Igoriok222
    Igoriok222 10 June 2013 15: 24 New
    12
    Well, yes, it won’t get involved, we have recently witnessed an Israeli attack on the objects of Syria.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 10 June 2013 15: 32 New
      10
      Do not confuse an elephant with a fly. To bomb a couple of objects is one thing. Full-scale ground-based plus airborne operation is another.
  3. Rustiger
    Rustiger 10 June 2013 15: 32 New
    10
    And Benya left a loophole anyway, calling the war "civil" and not "the invasion of external forces into the affairs of a sovereign state."
    Yes, they have been in a state of war for a long time (de jure) with Syria. His words, this is of course a small step back, but we still look. . .
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 35 New
      -2
      Because this is the civil war. If you study the history of civil wars, then they always involved actively mercenaries and volunteers from different countries, and the parties were funded from outside.
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 22: 43 New
        +6
        Quote: Pimply
        Because this is the civil war. If you study the history of civil wars, then they always involved actively mercenaries and volunteers from different countries, and the parties were funded from outside.

        Guided by your concepts, Eugene, any sortie of terrorists can be called a civil war!
        So, under your definition of civil war, the operation to restore the constitutional order in Chechnya also draws ...
        You forget that in a civil war, both sides of the conflict are organized and have the goal of establishing their own legally legitimate authority, albeit with the help of weapons.
        In this case, there is a struggle between an organized force (state) and the forces of world terrorism (not supported by the Syrian people, but feeding plentifully from behind a mound). This is not a war, but a counter-terrorist operation, in order to protect the state and citizens!
        And it is somewhat strange that the "opposition forces" of Syria find support in Europe and mattress, because they know who they support!
        I wish the President of Syria and its people to quickly crush the reptile, and liberate their homeland Syria!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 26 New
          0
          Firstly, if you want to do a normal analysis of the situation, discard the stamps of europ and mattress.

          Secondly - if you want to do a normal analysis of the situation, then read at least the history of the civil war in Russia.

          Thirdly, if you do not care about the normal analysis of the situation, but want to wave flags - wave. There is nothing wrong with that either.


          The Chechen war was not a civil war, since it was not covered by a relatively small section of the country, and quite small groups were involved in it. The war in Chechnya is a separatist uprising.

          In this case, a war is fought between: forces loyal to Assad - mainly Alawites, Shiites and Christians, with the support of Iran and the Shiite Hezbollah group, with the Sunni population of the country, which is actively joining radical Sunni groups from around the world. Both Europe and the United States do not even play the second, third violin in support of the rebels. Qatar and Saudi Arabia are the main players.
          1. Che
            Che 11 June 2013 22: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Pimply

            Well, you don’t need to speak for all Sunnis, without the support of the population, the Syrian army would not have smashed this gangster rabble from around the world. Everyone knows where this slaughterhouse is brewed.
  4. Igoriok222
    Igoriok222 10 June 2013 15: 38 New
    0
    Quote: il grand casino
    Do not confuse an elephant with a fly. To bomb a couple of objects is one thing. Full-scale ground-based plus airborne operation is another.

    And I don’t confuse, it all starts with this! So the war breaks out and Israel is actively unnerving Syria, so that she, in turn, responded to provocations. Well, then, Israel does not cost anything to attack Syria. Moreover, there is a territorial conflict between these countries.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 10 June 2013 17: 19 New
      +5
      I will answer as in Odessa, "do they need it?" In reality, Israel does not have a single plus from this. And they know how to calculate their benefits
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 10 June 2013 19: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: il grand casino
        I will answer as in Odessa, "do they need it?"

        Do they need to arm the Mujahideen? However, they arm, treat, and shelter in the buffer zone. What for? Now, according to Beni. "If they don't open fire against us." will open! The Mujahideen will shoot from the buffer zone, Israel will respond with an invasion (along with the Mujahideen). Mujahideen to the front line, themselves from behind, and slowly forward. Where will Assad go? To kill the Jews? So much for a full-scale war. What exactly the Jews want is not immediately apparent, but they definitely do not want peace. Otherwise, they would have fried the Mujahideen on the Golan themselves.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Atlon
          Do they need to arm the Mujahideen? However arming


          And what do you know something about this? Share interesting

          Quote: Atlon
          Otherwise, the Mujahideen would be fried in the Golan themselves.

          Are you aware that Hamas is fighting Hazballah in Syria? And on whose side in this situation do you think Israel should be and most importantly why?
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 10 June 2013 20: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            And what do you know something about this? Share interesting

            In my opinion, in every second article about this, and with links. If not laziness, look.

            Quote: Vadivak
            Are you aware that Hamas is fighting Hazballah in Syria?

            I know. Israel is at hand.

            Quote: Vadivak
            And on whose side in this situation do you think Israel should be and most importantly why?

            Anyone. Better on both ... "Divide and Conquer!" (FROM)
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 47 New
              +3
              Quote: Atlon
              In my opinion, in every second article about this, and with links. If not laziness, look


              I didn’t find it, throw a link only not to Palestinian sources.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 37 New
          0
          Because there is such a thing as humanitarian law. It was by these standards that I somehow had to save the terrorist who was just trying to kill our guys.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 10 June 2013 20: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            Because there is such a thing as humanitarian law.

            But not all stick to it !!
            respect !!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 23 New
              +1
              Not all. But in Israel, this is very tough. You can’t imagine how many Palestinians are being treated in Israel, and often - at Israeli expense. Including all sorts of high-ranking guys from Hamas and Fatah. At the checkpoint every day several ambulances had to be missed - and this is only from one village.
              In the oath of the medical officer, for example, there were such words:
              "To help both the loved one and the enemy - this I swear."
              1. phantom359
                phantom359 10 June 2013 23: 17 New
                0
                In the Hippocratic oath, too, a lot of good is written. Listen directly, so carry Arabs in your arms. better tell us how many civilians were threatened by your flyers and artillery.
          2. il grand casino
            il grand casino 10 June 2013 22: 15 New
            +4
            As the Germans say when they want to show their respect "Hut ab!" - taking off my hat.
        3. old man54
          old man54 10 June 2013 23: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Atlon
          What exactly do the Jews want, one won’t immediately guess, but they don’t want the world. Otherwise, the Mujahideen would be fried in the Golan themselves.

          Well, how not to guess that? Well, what are you, you are an intelligent person, I always carefully read your comments. Jews want land and the expansion of their state-va. But what if the whole circle is busy? Fight and take away! Doesn't Pilsutsky’s policy of Poland remind?
        4. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 09 New
          +3
          they still need to weaken Assad as much as possible (but not to the end) and get a neighbor immersed in internal problems and having neither the strength nor the desire to threaten Israel. All their actions lie in that direction.
          1. old man54
            old man54 12 June 2013 06: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Aljavad
            they still need to weaken Assad as much as possible (but not to the end) and get a neighbor immersed in internal problems and having neither the strength nor the desire to threaten Israel. All their actions lie in that direction.

            no, they need Syria like Libya today, and with a gopot they hope to figure it out, I think so. And they are not afraid, especially after the destruction of the USSR, that Syria will win the Golan on their own, they want to take advantage of the chaos and confusion in it and chop off something else. And here Israel had interests with the Turks, who also needed Syrian territory.
        5. Marconi41
          Marconi41 11 June 2013 03: 21 New
          +3
          Yes, everything is completely clear here! It is beneficial for Israel to maintain this conflict in Syria and both sides are definitely enemies to it. Why help militants? - because they are losing, which means the conflict will end, which is not profitable. In Syria, everything goes to hell, cities, infrastructure, etc. are collapsing, which means that after the mess, the Syrians will be far from Israel and not even the Golan Heights. Something like this...
  5. si8452
    si8452 10 June 2013 15: 39 New
    10
    Of course, Israel will be against the presence of our peacekeepers in the Golan. Whether there are Austrians, Filipinos or something like that, if they suffer in the course of aggression, then their countries will revolt, but stop. And Russia has already shown once again that it will knock on the cap for its peacekeepers. And an argument like Israel-this is not Georgia will not pass here, because when a decision was made on Georgia’s response, the future reaction of NATO, or rather the United States, was not quite clear, and this country is more serious than Israel will be.
    1. zMouze
      zMouze 10 June 2013 16: 01 New
      +3
      Israel is just the opposite, should be in favor.
      And most likely, he will be glad to such a course of events.
      Whatever they say, and the Israelis of war want the least ...
      1. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 16: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: zMouze
        Israel is just the opposite, should be in favor. And most likely, he will be glad to such a course of events.

        Israel will be against our peacekeepers, if only because ours, like Austrians, will not sit out in bunkers, but they can give Jewish friends from Alkaida a hat, and Jewish provocations just won’t pass.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 38 New
          -3
          Jewish friends from al-Qaeda are wonderful. You can see right away - you are a specialist. Loud applause.
          1. FATEMOGAN
            FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 21: 27 New
            +7
            Quote: Pimply
            Jewish friends from al-Qaeda are wonderful. You can see right away - you are a specialist. Loud applause.

            Sit, sit, do not get up, allow. And it is not visible that Israel sang with the terrorists, helps with weapons, treats militants (Jews themselves have stated more than once), Israeli special forces are returning from the militant territory. I'm not talking about the coordination of militant attacks, immediately after the Jewish gang raid of aircraft, and so on and so on and so on ... Or maybe you will deny the joy of Israel about the massacre that terrorists from around the world are doing there. Nitanyahu is already two years old, a parrot with an ass jumps with screams, what else is Syria, just like a khan. It is worth seeing who benefits from the blazing Middle East, which countries burn with blue flame, and which only grows fat on the blood of innocently killed people and everything will fall into place and it is clear who ordered it and who sponsors it. Although not only Israel in this carnage has an elbow in blood, but nonetheless he is one of the main ideologists. Just do not tell the tales that after Syria, the militants will come to Israel, if they come, it’s only for wages.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 50 New
              -2
              Your conclusions and reality go in different directions. To begin with, look a little about Al-Qaeda's policy regarding Israel.
              But the joy of the slaughter is. About the same as you would have from a mutual slaughter of Georgians in Georgia or Chechens in Chechnya.
              1. FATEMOGAN
                FATEMOGAN 11 June 2013 00: 44 New
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                Your conclusions and reality go in different directions. To begin with, look a little about Al-Qaeda's policy regarding Israel.

                As you are well aware, words do not mean deeds. For some reason, as for Syria, the words with deeds do not differ from them, but as it comes to Israel, only the loss of air. If bullets could be poured out of their threats to Israel, then that would not have been on the world map. Or will you tell tales that a civil war is going on in Syria, to which the slain Syrian people, enslaved by the Assad terror, rose up? if so, then I don’t see what to discuss next with you. And if you understand that a normal war is being fought in Syria, not just by the national army, but by motley mercenaries, then the question immediately arises of who sponsors and directs it. You will not say that the Arabian jackals or Turkey have an independent policy. It remains America, Israel and Russia (a geyropa is only able to bite from behind a heel and then after a kick, but in reality everything is purple for the Chinese), so it’s cool if the amers and Israel are the main instigators of the war.

                Quote: Pimply
                But the joy of the slaughter is. About the same as you would have from a mutual slaughter of Georgians in Georgia or Chechens in Chechnya.


                I don’t have joy from the blood of Georgians and Chechens, our guys were also killed in that war, so I don’t see what to rejoice about, let alone that we were poisoned by the Chechens and the Georgians and without the help of overseas friends.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 09 New
                  -2
                  And am I talking specifically about you? I am talking about the vast majority on this site. Tell them that the Georgians began to cut each other - and they will begin to throw up knives.



                  Quote: FATEMOGAN
                  And if you understand that a normal war is being fought in Syria, not just by the national army, but by motley mercenaries, then the question immediately arises of who sponsors and directs it. You will not say that the Arabian jackals or Turkey have an independent policy. It remains America, Israel and Russia (a geyropa is only able to bite from behind a heel and then after a kick, but in reality everything is purple for the Chinese), so it’s cool if the amers and Israel are the main instigators of the war.


                  You still do not understand the East. Read books on his story. Look, for example, the fuel crisis of the 70s - who organized it, or read about the Emir of Qatar, who threw off his dad, and is a very ambitious comrade. The world, on the one hand, is an order of magnitude more complicated than you imagine, and on the other hand, an order of magnitude simpler. You are used to thinking narrowly. There he is, the great Evil Enemy. He steers everything. You do not understand that even the most figurative ballerina wants to dance the role of the White Swan. And each - in its own way. And Qatar and the SA have their own very clear plans for the Middle East.
                  1. FATEMOGAN
                    FATEMOGAN 11 June 2013 13: 37 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    You still do not understand the East. Read books on his story. Look, for example, the fuel crisis of the 70s - who organized it, or read about the Emir of Qatar, who threw off his dad, and is a very ambitious comrade. The world, on the one hand, is an order of magnitude more complicated than you imagine, and on the other hand, an order of magnitude simpler. You are used to thinking narrowly. There he is, the great Evil Enemy. He steers everything. You do not understand that even the most figurative ballerina wants to dance the role of the White Swan. And each - in its own way. And Qatar and the SA have their own very clear plans for the Middle East.

                    It’s good to read, but besides this, you have to try and think with your own skull, in the press and on the screen, these Syrian terriers are still called the opposition, but as they say how much the word sugar does not say, it will not become sweeter in the mouth. So here, no matter how many of these maniacs I do not call the opposition, they will not become civilizations from this. Of course, the countries of the region want to play their violins, and it’s also clear that each chapter doesn’t have an American over his ear, just amers give them a corridor within which they conduct their own policies, and a step to the left, a step to the right and you’ll immediately be a bad guy breaking everything human rights and combined. So I see the policy of amers.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 11 June 2013 14: 30 New
                      -1
                      Every country has that. All countries follow their interests. SSA is indeed the opposition, despite a decent amount of Islamic international. Speeches in Syria did not begin yesterday and not because Assad is so good. His dad also had fun in 1982, killing several tens of thousands of people.

                      You just need to understand that not everyone rules the states, that getting help from someone does not mean that you become his vassal, and that everyone has their own interests.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 10 June 2013 22: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          Israel will be against our peacekeepers, if only because ours, like Austrians, will not sit out in bunkers, but they can give Jewish friends from Alkaida a hat, and Jewish provocations just won’t pass.


          What for? Hizbala is an ally of Assad, but they will also have to give a hat based on the responsibilities of peacekeepers.
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 17 New
            +1
            peacekeepers have no right to "slap". Only to be present and to press with authority.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: si8452
      Of course, Israel will be against the presence of our peacekeepers in the Golan.



      Israeli Foreign Ministry supported the idea of ​​sending peacekeepers from Russia to the Golan

      10 June 2013, 15: 43






      1. atalef
        atalef 10 June 2013 20: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Israeli Foreign Ministry supported the idea of ​​sending peacekeepers from Russia to the Golan

        10 June 2013, 15: 43

        Vadim, I do not think that infa is true.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Vadim, I do not think that infa is true.


          I’m usually not in a hurry, you know, but here RIA Novosti seems to be a reliable source. Israeli Deputy Interior Minister Faina Kirshenbaum said that Israel would not mind that there would always be someone in the Golan Heights to control the situation.

          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130610/942558586.html#ixzz2VphvlO6V

          We heard that some countries decided to withdraw their peacekeepers because (they) were injured. We are very sorry, although there was an agreement that forces would remain there. If President Putin decided to bring in his forces, then I do not think that Israel will resist. We always want someone to be there in order to really monitor the situation, "she said on the air of the Ekho Moskvy radio station.

          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130610/942558586.html#ixzz2Vpi2hmgY


          But in any case, I agree, it is worth waiting for the development of events. Although the word is spoken, in the beginning was the Word
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 28 New
            -3
            Fanya is the general director of the NDI party. Her bazaar must be very clearly filtered, a cunning aunt, talked to her. She is now in Moscow with negotiations, and therefore she says what they want to hear in order to create the right atmosphere. In addition, she is deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

            And here is what Elkin, the deputy foreign minister, said, in effect, the acting, who is now also in Moscow.

            Russia received a response from Israel to its proposal to send its observers to the demilitarized zone in the Golan Heights, Deputy Foreign Minister Zeev Elkin told RIA Novosti. Nevertheless, the Israeli side does not want to advertise its position on this issue on the eve of Elkin's visit to Moscow, which officially begins today, June 10.

            According to the deputy minister, the answer was conveyed in a telephone conversation between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 7. "Israel's position was openly and clearly expressed during a conversation between the leaders of the two states. There are things that are sometimes better off staying at this level," Elkin said.

            Elkin told the Russian news agency that in Moscow he will meet with Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation Yuri Ushakov, who is in charge of foreign policy, Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, who is the co-chairman of the Russian-Israeli intergovernmental commission, and will hold consultations at the Russian Foreign Ministry. "Israel's bilateral relations with Russia and regional problems will also be discussed," the deputy minister said. "We will, in particular, prepare an intergovernmental commission, since it has been decided that I will be Israel's representative for organizing the intergovernmental commission."

            So everything is said there, I think.
      2. si8452
        si8452 10 June 2013 20: 37 New
        +2
        If so, then the chances are that everything will end without a full-blown international conflict
  6. martin1000
    martin1000 10 June 2013 15: 49 New
    +2
    xoroso cto ni nacnet voynu
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 22 New
      0
      daj bogh budet tak.
  7. fisherman
    fisherman 10 June 2013 15: 59 New
    +2
    "Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict"
    in other words, Israel does not want to test the strength of the Syrian S-300
    it’s not easy for you to fly over peaceful Palestinians and bomb them
    1. FATEMOGAN
      FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 17: 03 New
      11
      Quote: fisherman
      "Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict" in other words, Israel does not want to test the strength of the Syrian S-300 it is not easy for you to fly over peaceful Palestinians and bomb them

      It may not get involved, but all sorts of tricks to arrange and crap Syria from around the corner, as they like it, are unlikely to stop.
  8. Yozhas
    Yozhas 10 June 2013 16: 03 New
    +3
    Israel should ensure its defense only by relying on its own forces.

    On their own with the support of amers. Without amers, Israel cannot do anything.

    "The problem with the UN contingent in the Golan clearly shows that Israel cannot trust international contingents for its security," he said.

    Let another wall be built, not 7 meters high, but 17 and hide behind it. They’re afraid of the poor, they can’t entrust their security. All oppress and terrorize defenseless Israelfool
    1. zMouze
      zMouze 10 June 2013 16: 07 New
      11
      Let me disagree with you ...
      Tzahal, in that region has no equal.
      The presence of modern long-range air defense systems in Syria will only complicate the planning of small military operations and their implementation. The C300 is not a panacea, and they themselves do not carry any guaranteed protection.
      1. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 17: 09 New
        +7
        According to the draft US state budget for 2014 submitted to Congress, despite a reduction in the country's defense budget, unplanned military assistance to Israel will be increased to $ 488 million.
        US to pay Israel for 5 Iron Dome batteries
        According to Haaretz newspaper columnist Amos Harel, the aid will include $ 220 million for the purchase of five Iron Dome batteries for the Israel Defense Forces.

        In addition, $ 268 million has been allocated for joint projects to develop missile defense systems Hets-3 (Arrow-3) and Magic wand (Stunner).

        These amounts are not included in the $ 3,1 billion aid provided by the United States to Israel as part of a multi-year defense cooperation program.



        Of course, you may disagree further, but the fact remains that the amers pour billions into the IDF, I’m not saying that if the Jews hadn’t been behind the amers, they would hardly have behaved like that, threatening everyone from left to right.
        1. alexkross83
          alexkross83 10 June 2013 18: 23 New
          +4
          How do they like all these pretentious names :-) surprised why there is no complex called "Lead Panties"? It would be more relevant ...
        2. piterkras
          piterkras 10 June 2013 19: 41 New
          +4
          These 3.1 billion dollars will go to Israel to purchase only American military products. Thus, the United States stimulates the work of its armed industrial complex in the country, at the same time helping its allies.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 43 New
            -4
            Do not forget that these 3.1 billion dollars coexist in various assistance programs for Egypt, and are a direct result of the rejection of a piece of land the size of Israel.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 39 New
          -3
          For this money, guys from the states get the technology obtained during the development of complexes. And these technologies are much more expensive.
        4. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 35 New
          0
          The fact is that they are pouring in not so much into the Tsakhal, but into their understanding of the balance of power in the region. And when Israel tries to be headstrong - as with the Lavi and with the A-50 for India - it is gently but adamantly upset. Friendship with America may be beneficial, but humiliating
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 19: 32 New
        +6
        Quote: zMouze
        Tsahal, in that region has no equal., C300 is not a panacea,


        In addition to the IDF spenaz, the special forces have also forgotten the anti-terrorist (special forces of the police) division “Yamam”, the division “pseudo-Arab” and “LOTAR Eilat”,
        “Shaldagh” (“kingfisher”) - special forces of the Israeli Air Force, “Shayetet 13” (Flotilla 13, Shayetet Shlosh-esre, “Shayats”, Commando Yami) - special forces of the Israeli Navy,
        "Kidon" ("Bayonet") is a special unit within the Metsada department, (power operations department) in Mossad.
        SHABAK (Sherut Bitakhon Klali, Shin-Bet - “General Security Service”, Israeli counterintelligence) - also has its own special forces. The name, number, tasks performed are unknown.
        1. wanderer
          wanderer 10 June 2013 20: 28 New
          -6
          You are not the case of the KGB ?? The knowledge about the structure of our army is painfully wide)))
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 36 New
            +6
            Quote: wanderer
            You are not the case of the KGB ??

            Once, in the captain’s rank, the clerks told me that they leaked me to them in the school as a listening voice, well, it was a sin to love Ozka to listen, Nazareth, Zeppelinov, so they looked at me from the other side, but didn’t touch me and thanks for that, there people worked too
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 39 New
            +1
            If from the KGB, then the data is outdated by a quarter century.
            Read more.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 42 New
          -1
          ShABAS forgotten - prison management.

          LOTAR Eilat are army reserves. "Mistaravim" (pseudo-Arabs) is not a separate division, but different groups within different divisions.

          Shaldag and Shayetet also belong to the IDF
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            ShABAS forgotten - prison management.


            I didn’t forget, here Sasha writes below, how much is known in Israel, and how much is still unknown?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 30 New
              -2
              I once counted 16 army special forces. In fact, I looked - reconnaissance companies of such brigades were lost - I did KMB with them, all kinds of Palsar 7. Missed units in the brigades - various special communications and anti-tanks. Well, etc. There is a lot missing on the list.
        3. atalef
          atalef 10 June 2013 20: 51 New
          -3
          Quote: Vadivak
          Special Forces forgot except IDF spenaz

          They are much more
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D0%BF%D
          0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%80%D0
          %B0%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9#.D0.A1.D0.BF.D0.B5.D1.86.D0.
          BD.D0.B0.D0.B7_.D0.90.D1.80.D0.BC.D0.B8.D0.B8_.D0.BE.D0.B1.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.
          BD.D1.8B_.D0.98.D0.B7.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B8.D0.BB.D1.8F
          See Israel
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 23: 11 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            I once counted 16 units of army special forces.

            Quote: atalef
            They are much more

            Pimpled: -2; Atalef: -1 ????
            Looks like we got specialists in the Israeli special services abruptly you! Look how negative! True, they do not refute anything, and apparently they have nothing to comment on ... But minus how!
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 44 New
              +3
              So they are by class instinct ... :))))
            2. Che
              Che 11 June 2013 22: 29 New
              0
              Quote: AlNikolaich
              . But minus how!

              It is a sin not to minus these guys.
    2. ultra
      ultra 11 June 2013 00: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Hedgehog
      . Without amers, Israel cannot do anything.

      This deep misconception is supported by support, but even without it, the army of Israel is at its best, which has repeatedly proved! In this region, it has no equal, this is a fact against which you can’t argue! hi
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 39 New
        +1
        A person is not aware that more or less friendly relations between the United States and Israel appeared only in 1969.
        1. Aljavad
          Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 45 New
          0
          and in the beginning, Stalin very much hoped for you, Mistaken. It happens to everyone...
    3. Aljavad
      Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 30 New
      +3
      In the 47th year they sat on the defensive and hung by a thread. (and the USSR through Czechoslovakia helped them), then they got rid of it and went on the offensive, then rolled back, and they live in a state of war. The whole country is a military camp. Most of the neighbors don’t want to fight, and it seems indecent to sign the world. That strengthens their safety. Everything is logical, although hopeless in the long run. Strategic dead end.
  9. Black
    Black 10 June 2013 16: 09 New
    +9
    "Israel will not be involved in a civil war in Syria until the fire is used against us," the politician warned.

    Oh come on !!!
    Hitler at one time could have said: "We will never attack Poland, unless it is captured and the radio station in Gleiwitz starts broadcasting online !!"

    Citizens are Jews! Expect rocket fire or sarin cans. will die with a dozen of your women and children. But that is what national security requires.
  10. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 10 June 2013 16: 23 New
    +4
    "Israel will not be involved in a civil war in Syria until the fire is used against us," the politician warned

    Tricky said. And provoke the opening of fire on the Jews, it's like two fingers on the asphalt. Arrived, fired several missiles at an allegedly moving caravan of weapons for Hezbollah, Syria used its air defense, and there you have a reason. They started shooting at the Jews!
    Pay attention to the words of these politicians, they almost always have a condition. Without conditions, Israel cannot communicate.
    1. igor67
      igor67 10 June 2013 16: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Hedgehog
      "Israel will not be involved in a civil war in Syria until the fire is used against us," the politician warned

      Tricky said. And provoke the opening of fire on the Jews, it's like two fingers on the asphalt. Arrived, fired several missiles at an allegedly moving caravan of weapons for Hezbollah, Syria used its air defense, and there you have a reason. They started shooting at the Jews!
      Pay attention to the words of these politicians, they almost always have a condition. Without conditions, Israel cannot communicate.

      In fact, over two years, so many flies and shells and shelling of military jeeps have already arrived, it was already possible to start hostilities.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 10 June 2013 16: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: igor67
        it was already possible to start hostilities.

        Well, relatively piece, often random shots are out of the question. I am sure.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 10 June 2013 21: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: igor67
        Generally in two years

        Hi Igor, honestly, after the second Israeli raid on Syria, I won’t be surprised if Israel invades Syria on a full scale!
        1. atalef
          atalef 10 June 2013 21: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay
          Hi Igor, honestly, after the second Israeli raid on Syria, I won’t be surprised if Israel invades Syria on a full scale!

          Hey . Alibek !!!
          No real development. Israel will never get into Syria, for this there is no need. and people don’t understand. Special operations - yes. to bomb - the same. But all this in case of extreme need and with the real danger of the transfer of modern weapons to Hezbollah or the capture of these by rebels. No one in Israel (the people) will approve the entrance to Syria. no one needs war. Yes, the Prime Minister (whoever he is) can then put an end to his career. The people here are thinking one thing, leave us alone. let’s live quietly - we certainly won’t disturb others.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 10 June 2013 21: 29 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Hey . Alibek !!!
            No real development. Israel will never get into Syria, for this there is no need. and people don’t understand. Special operations - yes. to bomb - the same.

            Hi Sanya !!
            I think it may well be bombed so that it would be better to invade))))))))))
            1. atalef
              atalef 10 June 2013 21: 38 New
              -1
              Quote: Yarbay
              I think it may well be bombed so that it would be better to invade)))

              Look. Of course the whole war (if God forbid, hypothetically begins). then the Air Force will bomb. I think the tanks will capture all the Golan (it’s just easier to control) I do not rule out the capture of the hydroelectric power station in Efrat - as a strategic threat to the Syrian economy. Well, in general, more is not necessary. As the UN will always fit. will scout troops. another ceasefire and 40 calm years.
          2. FATEMOGAN
            FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 22: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            No real development. Israel will never get into Syria, for this there is no need. and people don’t understand. Special operations - yes. to bomb - the same.

            Nifiga itself logic, translating into Russian, it turns out to violate the sovereignty of a foreign country, to invade with the aim of murder, this is not a declaration of war, it’s just like a walk, two fingers to shake. The campaign Zionists are completely fucked up, they all lie down from a large bell tower, they think about destroying people as they think about a walk. And do not think that next time, for your gangster raid, get a volley of missiles in the forehead !!! ??? Nitsche, the cat will be rattled with mouse tears and I hope your time comes, sit under that lead rain that you arrange for others.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 38 New
              -5
              Syria and Israel have a state of war, do you know? The war that Syria started.
              1. FATEMOGAN
                FATEMOGAN 10 June 2013 23: 02 New
                +2
                I am aware that between the attempt at a peace treaty with Syria, neutrality and the cannibal militants, Israel chose nonhumans, for now you don’t mind, but they are your allies. although in my opinion Israel had a chance to negotiate a ceasefire with Syria, it would be worth it to at least not get into a conflict, or even help the official authorities.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 40 New
                  +1
                  You cannot understand what the formula does not work in this case is the enemy of my enemy - my friend. Israel is not equally suited by either Sunni Islamists on borders or Assad, who supports Hezbollah and Iran. Not even a war is very comfortable, because events that are too unpredictable are coming.

                  Have you ever studied the history of the Middle East conflict? What help is Assad talking about? These 65 years old guys are fighting with Israel, and sponsor terrorist organizations that strike at it. You yourself are not funny?

                  Or suggest such an option to Assad. For him, this is a grave right away, because the worst accusation in the BV is cooperation with Israel.

                  http://shorouq.livejournal.com/
                  Spend a few hours. Read the blog of such a good Arabist Ksenia Svetlova. Learn a little history. Read about the Emir of Qatar, or about Saudi Arabia. Generally, start reading.

                  You have everything before Israel, the boys are bloody in the eyes.
                  1. FATEMOGAN
                    FATEMOGAN 11 June 2013 01: 00 New
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Or suggest such an option to Assad. For him, this is a grave right away, because the worst accusation in the BV is cooperation with Israel.

                    When the militants crushed Syria and the pity that they can crush little by little, then help Israel Syria of course in exchange for peace and guarantees of non-interference, I’m not a strategist and maybe wrong, but still I think that this was a chance to show Israel as a fighter against terrorists, to illuminate regular assistance against militants, I think Assad would have to make many concessions for this. But in reality, at that moment he was the main instigator of all the blood in the region, do not you think that Assad, if he survives, will forget about it.

                    Quote: Pimply
                    You have everything before Israel, the boys are bloody in the eyes

                    I hope that Netanyahu’s current policy is not shared by all Jews, because, in my opinion, by his policy, he is awesomely substituting both Israel itself and Jews in particular.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 24 New
                      -2
                      You're wrong. Syria supports Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations. More precisely, Hamas supported. The main ally of Syria is Iran. Are you laughing Assad is not a suicide - accept help from Israel. This is his worst nightmare. Iran and Hezbollah, as it were, looked, for example?

                      Israel is also not a suicide - and so with the Arabs relations are not sugar. Splashing oil on fire for another jihad against Israel?

                      Assad knows very well who steers in the region. Why do you think the most combat-ready units when the time came, he calmly took him away from the Israeli border and threw him inland. Assad is not. Dictators are rarely fools.

                      I tell you - before judging the Middle East, start reading its story. And preferably - not only in Russian.
                      1. Che
                        Che 11 June 2013 22: 57 New
                        -1
                        Patchy patched - dictator, dictator. Yes, there is no greater dictatorship than in America anywhere in the world. Yes, and Israel is not far gone. So what about democracy is not for you tryndet.
                  2. Aljavad
                    Aljavad 11 June 2013 02: 53 New
                    +2
                    I support! START READING! And sometimes the impression is that the authors of the comments were born yesterday, and are sure that the day before yesterday there was nothing.
                2. atalef
                  atalef 11 June 2013 08: 23 New
                  +1
                  Quote: FATEMOGAN
                  what's between trying a peace treaty with Syria

                  Remind me, otherwise I may have forgotten. who refused peace talks?
              2. Che
                Che 11 June 2013 22: 44 New
                -1
                Quote: Pimply
                Syria and Israel have a state of war, do you know? The war that Syria started.

                Syria did not start a single war; Israel always waged a war of aggression. Of course, with the help of amers as without them. The pro-Israel lobby cannot be helped. When this Lafa should end. Our in the Golan is a wonderful outlet for everyone. The world is better than war unequivocally.
          3. VDV 80-82
            VDV 80-82 10 June 2013 22: 27 New
            +2
            Do you seriously think that at least one reasonable politician will believe the Jews?))))) Yes, you are an optimist, my friend !!!))) In any case, GDP is clearly not one of such "believers" ... and Thank God! We took into account our mistakes of the early 90s, when there was such a romantic mood that, like we will change and everyone will "love" us ... yeah ... "love" ... All over the world they understand only the language of force! And nothing else! We, Russians, are not afraid to fight ... this is a familiar and well-known business for us ... But are Geyrop and the "empire of good" ready?))))))
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 22: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: VDV 80-82
              We took into account our mistakes of the early 90s, when there was such a romantic mood,


              What mood? We were detained for half a year, figs romance
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 42 New
          +1
          It all depends on how Assad’s affairs will go, and what he will do.
        3. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 06: 50 New
          0
          there will remain.
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 10 June 2013 16: 42 New
    +5
    This is a joke-humor. Special forces rummage through territory controlled by militants (the exit of such a group from Syria was filmed by Western journalists), we are shown on Russian TV Israeli special vehicles captured during the liberation of the territory from terrorists, Israeli military doctors !!! not humanitarian organizations !!!, they provide assistance to the type of wounded Syrians, during the sweeping by the Syrian government troops from terrorists of the territory adjacent to the Golan Heights, as they recognized in the course of their life, air raids on Syrian targets ... AND THIS IS ALL ISRAEL CALLS NOT INTERVENTION
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 46 New
      -5
      Israeli military doctors provide assistance, because they are closest to the border. The return of special forces from Syrian territory in the afternoon is nonsense.
      Sufa-1 of the shaggy 2000 technical inspection is a formidable special vehicle. They are sitting in Israel, and specifically give the militants cars with Israeli army designations. Ingenious.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Pimply
        Sufa-1 shaggy 2000


        It's a shame yes. I have nine nine, is she a mammoth? Well, okay, but the mammoth is Gostovsky
        1. atalef
          atalef 10 June 2013 21: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Vadivak
          I have nine 1988, is she a mammoth? Well, okay, but the mammoth is Gostovsky

          Vadim. she is not a mammoth. she is MOSTODONT, older than the mammoth, but tusks of the 2 pair
          Unlike modern elephants, mastodons had tusks in both the upper and lower jaws

          good
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 48 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Vadim. she is not a mammoth. she is MOSTODONT,


            I comforted you. If she still ate grass and not gasoline .....
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 35 New
          -2
          Inspection of the year 2000. Which means that the car is slightly larger. And the war machine is being used more actively and in slightly different conditions than your nine. And the requirements for such cars change more often. Sufu 1 was taken out of the Israeli army. With me, just in the 2000s, they began to change.
          In 2000, the IDF was withdrawn from Lebanon. Very chaotic, Barak needs to wrest his hands for such a conclusion. A lot of all the good left there. So do not be surprised - Hezbollah has such toys before a fig.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Inspection of the year 2000. What does it mean that the car is slightly larger


            And thanks to Zhenya, I already understood from Sasha how rare my car is
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 27 New
              0
              In Israel, there is one point - a special sign is hung on retro cars. It says so - a retromobile 8) This Sufu can also be hung up. I have not served such a one. And I served from 1999 to 2002. The next generation Sufa had rear windows an order of magnitude smaller, for example.
    2. atalef
      atalef 10 June 2013 21: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: Strashila
      AND THIS IS ALL ISRAEL CALLS NOT INTERVENTION

      No, everything that you wrote is called complete nonsense. From the car. to the special forces marching during the day and at full height. Do you even know that the border with Syria can be seen from hundreds of places, there are a huge number of viewing platforms for tourists and there are quite a few ponds with fish (I used to fish some meters in 150 from the border) And here it’s like a parade. special forces, home in full growth and in the afternoon. What a baby talk.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 51 New
        +1
        However, there is one theme - it is easy to take abroad that which is not a border. For example, a fence is not a border - it is just an entrance to a certain area. So confusing everything is very easy.

        By the way, I have no doubt that the special forces go there. Yes, one hundred percent walks and walked. The question is that I doubt the accuracy of the shooting.
        1. atalef
          atalef 10 June 2013 22: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: Pimply
          However, there is one theme - it is easy to take abroad that which is not a border. For example, a fence is not a border - it is just an entrance to a certain area. So confusing everything is very easy.

          I remember the windmills in the Golan were serviced (you know what it was about), they made a mistake on the road and along the security fence, until Batashit caught up and asked what HAHI was needed here. laughing
          And the lake is 150 m from the border.

          Quote: Pimply
          By the way, I have no doubt that the special forces go there. Yes, one hundred percent walks and walked. The question is that I doubt the accuracy of the shooting.

          Of course he walks, here hedgehog is clear. Just do not come back in the afternoon. under cameras and in full growth.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 25 New
            +1
            That's right. That's bullshit. An ambush - within the boundaries of the zone - may be. Glowing the same leaving Syria ??? Rave.
    3. Rumata
      Rumata 11 June 2013 08: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Strashila
      Israeli special vehicles captured during the liberation of territory from terrorists

      What I just didn’t read, and "a modern Israeli armored vehicle with modern radio and special equipment inside" and "armored personnel carriers", now they are already machines, in the plural. At this rate, in a couple of months everything will come to the conclusion that Israel handed over to the militants a couple of brigades of fours, with KAZ-s. And all because of some old "Sufa" of which dozens left in Lebanon at one time ...
  12. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 10 June 2013 17: 04 New
    +4
    Of course, it’s against the presence of our peacekeepers, because, as they say in Rivne, it’s necessary to behave exactly. Israel, just like the Turks, is now a hostage to the politics of their patron Americanos, without a command neither, for the Russians are nervous, as they say, and they want and prick. Amer is also a hostage to the red lines, he promised that he would support him in case of aggression, and here again the Russian is nervous, and Israel with the Turk looks and thinks what the hell? That's how we live.
  13. harrymur
    harrymur 10 June 2013 17: 15 New
    +5
    Jews will not let Russians into the golan, read the Jewish Russian-speaking sites, Israel considers the golan to be their own, and if they don’t see the Russian golan there, they won’t be able to see the Russian golan there, and especially in the light of the contradictions between the Russian Federation and the US and the company, the presence of dshb battalions complete with assault helicopters, even under UN auspices, in fact, means recognition of the victory of Assad and Russian politics in the Middle East, IT IS NECESSARY FOR JEWS))
    1. olviko
      olviko 10 June 2013 19: 45 New
      +1
      Well, why - they can bargain with Russia. Say we postpone the supply of C-300 or something else that makes the Jews hot.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: harrimur
      Do not let Russian Jews into the Golan, read the Jewish Russian-language sites


      Israeli authorities have nothing against the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan Heights instead of military personnel from Austria, said Israeli Deputy Interior Minister Faina Kirshenbaum, who arrived in Moscow on a visit, Security Council Chairman, British diplomat Mark Layal Grant said that it would be possible to implement the Russian initiative if Syria and Israel will agree to this.
      1. atalef
        atalef 10 June 2013 20: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Israeli authorities have nothing against the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan Heights instead of military personnel from Austria, said Israeli Deputy Interior Minister Faina Kirshenbaum

        In general, Faina does not shake in vain, but I (like that Jew from anecdote) do not believe. Time will tell . maybe wrong.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          In general, Faina does not shake in vain


          Does her Michael still serve?
          1. atalef
            atalef 10 June 2013 21: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            Does her Michael still serve?

            I do not even know . we all serve and such that the politician has a son or daughter slanted from the army - nonsense.
            Here is the son of Netanyahu, it seems like I’m recently demobilizing.
            You know, he even managed to sit on his lip. for being late from the leave.
            True lip is here. This is not a Soviet LIP. more reminiscent of a demobilization chord (according to the conditions. you have to get up early and still work - the truth is the same everywhere) But the term of imprisonment is not part of the service life, and it is necessary to serve exactly three years. Day to day.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 21 New
              +8
              Quote: atalef
              You know, he even managed to sit on his lip.



              Serdyukov, if only on the lip or something put
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 00 New
                -2
                Then it’s necessary to plant everyone. Do you think there was anything else before him? The funny thing is that with him, most likely, they began to steal less. Others simply began to steal, and those who stole earlier were put aside. Under him, some kind of movement in the army began, some kind of - but reform. The circus is all that is happening now.
              2. AlNikolaich
                AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 23: 19 New
                +1
                Quote: Vadivak
                Serdyukov, if only on the lip or something put

                It is necessary to hard labor! And the core to the foot on the chain!
                And to tear out the nostrils, and the mark of CAT on the forehead. (Or CAT), so that it would plow like a bulldozer until it stolen ... good
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 30 New
                  -2
                  You can’t imagine if it’s realistic to approach the matter, how much will go to hard labor. Beginning with ...
                  1. AlNikolaich
                    AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 23: 51 New
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply
                    You can’t imagine if it’s realistic to approach the matter, how much will go to hard labor. Beginning with ...

                    Well, yes ... starting with me ... recourse
                    ... and ending Putin! good
                    Something is in a humorous mood today ... Probably my face will be filled ...
                  2. Oberst_71
                    Oberst_71 11 June 2013 11: 17 New
                    +1
                    Absolutely right! starting with the Russian Jewish Congress.
              3. Black
                Black 10 June 2013 23: 20 New
                +2
                Quote: Vadivak
                Serdyukov, if only on the lip or something put

                And do not set off the days spent on time !!!!!
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 56 New
              -1
              I once sat at the pilot’s base for two weeks because I slipped away on New Year's. 8)) Oh, how they fed there - a restaurant 8). And since it was raining constantly, we still did not work.

              Here in 4-ke they say sit not sugar at all.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 52 New
          -1
          Oh, how else. Tenka is cunning, especially when it is necessary to say something before important negotiations. Something the other side wants to hear.
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      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Rioter
        And what Jews need, rabbits to grow in silence,



        Rabbits are not only valuable fur ....




        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 00 New
          -1
          Goats. Non-Kosher Rabbits 8)
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 23: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Goats. Non-Kosher Rabbits 8)

            And what, all so religious ??? And do not drink vodka? Do not eat bacon ??? lol
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 29 New
              +2
              Shh. Only kosher.
              1. builder
                builder 10 June 2013 23: 39 New
                +4
                A Jew can violate any commandment if his life is in danger. Therefore, if a Jew says: “I will die, if we don’t eat pork right now!”, Then he can safely eat pork. ” wink
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 49 New
                  +1
                  Not any 8) But for the most part. And this concerns not only his life, but in principle - any.
  14. individual
    individual 10 June 2013 17: 37 New
    +5
    Israel's position in the Golan is knownwhen the bandits took the only passage between Syria and the Golan, Benya says tolerate- even when they fired at VGTRK journalists and wounded the Philippine peacekeeper.
    But if the incident occurred through the fault of the Syrian government troops, the stench would be not measured.
    The policy of double standards in everything.
  15. andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 June 2013 17: 45 New
    +1
    Israel will not get involved, it will push-up-owls. let them fight, and Jews from the outside will be
  16. cartridge
    cartridge 10 June 2013 18: 28 New
    +1
    Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict because of provocations on the Golan


    Israeli lads remember how Hezbollah stuck cucumbers in one place in the summer of 2006, so they decided not to step on the same rake a second time
    1. atalef
      atalef 10 June 2013 20: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: cartridge
      Israeli lads remember how Hezbollah stuck cucumbers in one place in the summer of 2006, so they decided not to step on the same rake a second time

      this is Nasrallah for you. 7 years not crawling out of the bunker said, or the press secretary of Hezbollah. which, with any provocation on the part of Lebanon, is the first thing to scream - it's not us. we have nothing to do with it laughing
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Nasrallah


        Stop expressing yourself, follow the site rules
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 02 New
          0
          I remember how during the conflict, Russian television urgently renamed it Nasrullah. And in the 2008 m of Kokoity - in Kokoeva 8)))
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 June 2013 18: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            I remember how during the conflict, Russian television urgently renamed it Nasrullah. And in the 2008 m of Kokoity - in Kokoeva 8)))


            If you knew the real name of the Bulgarian astronaut
            Georgy Ivanov Ivanov (Bulgarian. Georgi Ivanov Ivanov, current surname Kakalov; genus 2 July 1940 years, Lovech, Bulgaria) - the first Bulgarian cosmonaut

            Kakalov had to be redone in Ivanova, and then the astronaut and Kakalov. Hero of the USSR - Kakalov. crying
        2. F117
          F117 11 June 2013 18: 49 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Nasrallah
          in general, this is the name of the leader of Hezbollah. As well as Hu.li Lopez is the name
  17. Rezun
    Rezun 10 June 2013 18: 29 New
    +2
    The Israelites ripened ...

    http://vz.ru/news/2013/6/10/636546.html

    and Syria has long agreed.
    1. harrymur
      harrymur 10 June 2013 19: 55 New
      +2
      this is a trick, these are the good fellows of the Jews, they heard a little movement, in both versions of the development of setuevins in Syria, the Russians in the Golan for Israel are the right choice,
      maybe they really have an independent policy, otherwise the 48th Israel was never able to establish relations with its neighbors, everything is clinging to the amers and Laureate with the Russians, and this is an indicator of insolvency, however, they are growing up
      JEWISH RESPECT !!!!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 03 New
        -4
        Not right. When you play football, you don’t take a judge, who will certainly judge one of the parties.
  18. 1st_user
    1st_user 10 June 2013 18: 41 New
    +7
    Grammar Nazi again indignant !!! I'm already tired of tolerating typos and all kinds of punctuation, grammar and lexical errors in articles! How many daily I read "Voennoye Obozreniye" since the beginning of 2012, and "ten years later, everything is the same" (c).
    Israel cannot trust its security on international contingents
    The preposition "on" is here for what reason?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 June 2013 19: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: 1st_user
      The preposition "on" is here for what reason?

      Never mind. These are the little things in life. There are things much worse and more dangerous.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 20: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: 1st_user
      Grammar nazi indignation again !!!


      Yes fy that ........ saffeys we have put our tongues on ... the main thing is ........ that people are a friend of a druk ... and in fact if I go into vantactics. .... then I am not bound to pity grammatically ...... I'm not a dectant on a ruzky


      Well, something like this smile
    3. Rustiger
      Rustiger 10 June 2013 23: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: 1st_user
      The preposition "on" is here for what reason?

      And this was not an excuse at all.
      Simply the "filter cut off" the well-known word "HAX **".
      Then all at once, as it were, "in Russian". Then where is the punctuation? It seems there was something else there, judging by the endings. But again the filter. ... ... what laughing
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 10 June 2013 18: 44 New
    +3
    Our good Jewish friends know when to open fire and not get too tough. They can do this and will bomb Syria until they respond with a salvo of the Iskaders and the Tornado on the kneset by chance and say that they are not them.
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 10 June 2013 18: 53 New
    +1
    The war in Syria is increasingly beginning to affect neighboring countries.
    Here Turkey begins to slowly begin to worry, and Israel will also overwhelm if they win
    bandits of different stripes. Such an opportunity how to attack Israel they are unlikely to miss
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 19: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      bandits of different stripes. Such an opportunity how to attack Israel they are unlikely to miss


      It seems to me that Israel is not Syria, which Iran actually supports, but politically Russia and China. Let’s look at the IMHO hypothetical situation when the IDF will destroy the militants, the United States (NATO) their Arab allies will block everything from caravan routes and sea communications to bank accounts, this is a no brainer, dear forum users with such pseudonyms will forgive me
  21. peterp19712
    peterp19712 10 June 2013 18: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: valokordin
    Our good Jewish friends know when to open fire and not get too tough. They can do this and will bomb Syria until they respond with a salvo of the Iskaders and the Tornado on the kneset by chance and say that they are not them.

    100% agree
  22. piterkras
    piterkras 10 June 2013 19: 31 New
    0
    The USA doesn’t order - it won’t get involved.
  23. Gooch
    Gooch 10 June 2013 20: 56 New
    +1
    In the photo Merkava Mk.3D? Or I'm wrong
  24. Kars
    Kars 10 June 2013 21: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: Gooch
    In the photo Merkava Mk.3D? Or I'm wrong

    more like a deuce. 105 mm equipment is likely.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Kars
      more like a deuce. 105 mm equipment is likely.


      Yeah, there you are, the tanker. Waiting means ambush
      1. Kars
        Kars 10 June 2013 21: 25 New
        +3
        Well, I saw about the tank, how could I pass by.
        This is most likely the top three Dalet bases. (Like that)
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 21: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Kars
          This is most likely the top three Dalet bases. (Like that)


          Did you see the panoramic sight on the roof of the tower?
          1. Kars
            Kars 10 June 2013 21: 54 New
            +2
            If honestly not visible, but very similar.
        2. Gooch
          Gooch 10 June 2013 21: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          Well, I saw about the tank, how could I pass by.
          This is most likely the top three Dalet bases. (Like that)

          I poked pictures on the Internet, Mk.2 / 3 / 3D with the naked eye are so similar, I have to look at the differences for half an hour.)
          1. Kars
            Kars 10 June 2013 21: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Gooch
            with the naked eye so alike

            Well, the 120 mm gun of the triples is distinguished by a larger ejector, and then the triples are constantly hung up with everything that appears new. With mounted armor in the first place.
            1. Gooch
              Gooch 10 June 2013 22: 10 New
              +2
              Quote: Kars
              Well, the 120 mm gun of the triples is distinguished by a larger ejector, and then the triples are constantly hung up with everything that appears new. With mounted armor in the first place.

              With what, but with all sorts of bells and whistles and other bells and whistles and farts only Magah can brag) By the way Magah 7 is he at the level of which Merkav? Can they be called equivalent with at least Mk.3?
              1. atalef
                atalef 10 June 2013 22: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: Gooch
                Can they be called equivalent with at least Mk.3?

                Well, this is a very ancient MAGAH, they were withdrawn from service at the end of the 1990's. Therefore, there is nothing to compare
                it's all about MAGAH
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%85
                Remained only in reserve parts
                1. Gooch
                  Gooch 10 June 2013 22: 31 New
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, this is a very ancient MAGAH, they were withdrawn from service at the end of the 1990's. Therefore, there is nothing to compare

                  It looks very impressive. and the M60 itself is a brave tank, all the more brought to mind)
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 46 New
                    -2
                    The first tank with dynamic armor 8)
    2. Gooch
      Gooch 10 June 2013 21: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Kars
      more like a deuce. 105 mm equipment is likely.

      All the same, Mk.3, judging by the photo)
      1. Kars
        Kars 10 June 2013 22: 08 New
        +2
        ________105 mm gun
        1. Kars
          Kars 10 June 2013 22: 10 New
          +2
          _____________120 mm
          1. Kars
            Kars 10 June 2013 22: 17 New
            +2
            So for me a leader
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 19 New
        +1
        I gave a good link below. Since it is known where in which brigade which tanks are in service, it is possible to clearly identify everything, including the platoon, and who commands the tank, in what position.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 14 New
      0
      You're right. In fact, everything is even easier here. You can not suffer.

      In Russian there is a good tablet. It clearly shows that the tank from the city (battalion) 75, 7 brigade. The first company, the first platoon, the tank of the platoon sergeant, in other words, Samal 8).

      http://karopka.ru/forum/forum225/topic10419/
      1. Kars
        Kars 10 June 2013 22: 24 New
        +1
        Senks. I always wanted to read this. I have two Merkavas 2 and a square three.

        but 27 cu this is serious))) wassat
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 31 New
          0
          So, I did not catch up - neither about 27 cu, nor about the square three 8). But give your little picture more. She is very beautiful 8)
          1. Gooch
            Gooch 10 June 2013 22: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            So, I did not catch up - neither about 27 cu, nor about the square three 8). But give your little picture more. She is very beautiful 8)

            http://www.isradecal.com/?storeid=110&view=products&id=5368 - 27$ стоит)
            it's cheaper than $ 20 - http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=ISR%20IDF-01
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 45 New
              0
              All-all, I realized 8) Hardness is not stupidity 8))
  25. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 21: 46 New
    +4
    Israel will not get involved in the conflict, because it has long been implicated and messed up there. This includes attacks on Syria, assistance to the militants and the curation of their money that the Americans pass on. The militants lose therefore, everything is stolen by Israeli commanders and does not reach the militants. Even the Israelis are engaged in black transplantology there, the organs are transferred to the established hospital on the border.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 22: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Chavy
      , organs are transferred to the established hospital on the border.


      Maybe right at the restaurant? Why trifle
  26. atalef
    atalef 10 June 2013 21: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Gooch
    All the same, Mk.3, judging by the photo)

    The three. 10 did not see two of two years. All have long been upgraded and brought to the level -3. The first and not modernized, the tower is removed, and the chassis is converted into heavy infantry fighting vehicles.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 22: 11 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Gooch
      All the same, Mk.3, judging by the photo)

      The three. 10 did not see two of two years. All have long been upgraded and brought to the level -3. The first and not modernized, the tower is removed, and the chassis is converted into heavy infantry fighting vehicles.

      Nobody is the first to remake. They are just unfortunate enough. Together with MAGAH-7 they are written off from the reservist units as the "fours" arrive. In general, there is a reduction in tank units due to an increase in reconnaissance, artillery and missile defense units.
      Yes, and "two" no one to "three" does not make senseless. They are all in the reservist brigades. They are bringing the reservation to MK2Dor Dalet. And 105mm is enough to fight the Syrian armored vehicles, especially considering the introduction of new ammunition.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 22: 17 New
      +1
      They remain deuces anyway. They are not brought to the top three.
      The project, however, did not go through with a redesign; it turned out to be cheaper to make new chassis.
      New 105 mm ammunition has been taxiing recently.
  27. Day 11
    Day 11 10 June 2013 22: 18 New
    +1
    Great guys! What are the three bazaars about? We’ll eat right now! I’m talking as a servant is Mk.3! There’s nothing to even argue here!
  28. Zeus
    Zeus 10 June 2013 22: 21 New
    +2
    Here is an interesting opinion on the topic)

  29. poquello
    poquello 10 June 2013 22: 30 New
    +2
    "Benjamin Netanyahu." Israel will not be involved in a civil war in Syria until fire is used against us, "

    Well said - nothing at all. No guarantees against the penetration of hostile detachments into Syria, attacks "from nowhere." Oh well.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 11 June 2013 10: 48 New
      0
      But he himself knows that.? Here as they say.
  30. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 22: 32 New
    +3
    Official statement!

    Aron Zawi sent me a threatening message that they would meet me with handcuffs at the airport and cancel my Israeli passport, so I will continue to write nothing more about Israel, only good or nothing at all.
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 10 June 2013 23: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Chavy
      Official statement!

      Aron Zawi sent me a threatening message that they would meet me with handcuffs at the airport and cancel my Israeli passport, so I will continue to write nothing more about Israel, only good or nothing at all.

      Yeah !!! Mossad fell into his clutches! lol
      Comrade So that your death is not in vain, put on the belt of a martyr! Like I’m dying but I don’t give up! soldier
      1. Chavy
        Chavy 10 June 2013 23: 47 New
        +2
        I’ll arrive at the airport with a martyr’s belt of vodka and chocolates to get drunk in the trash before death :)
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 23: 40 New
      -5
      Quote: Chavy
      Official statement!

      Aron Zawi sent me a threatening message that they would meet me with handcuffs at the airport and cancel my Israeli passport, so I will continue to write nothing more about Israel, only good or nothing at all.

      I highly recommend do not write anything. I did not threaten, but warned and not just like that.
      1. Chavy
        Chavy 10 June 2013 23: 48 New
        +2
        Agreed, I’m not writing anything.
      2. mizantropi
        mizantropi 10 June 2013 23: 53 New
        +6
        Survived! This fucking MASSDINA is already here. NOT JUST SO BEGAN TO WARN!!! Do not say what to do, and I will not tell you where to go !!!
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 11 June 2013 00: 18 New
          0
          Quote: mizantrop
          Survived! This fucking MASSDINA is already here. NOT JUST SO BEGAN TO WARN!!! Do not say what to do, and I will not tell you where to go !!!

          These are exclusively internal Israeli showdowns. Personally, you can, together with others, pour out all your negativity on Israel. You are a stranger, and we treat strangers' abuse according to the principle: "The dog barks, but the caravan moves on." So do not deny yourself anything.
          1. mizantropi
            mizantropi 11 June 2013 00: 34 New
            +2
            Well, they would sort out their relationship on their own platforms. Here it is inappropriate. You are strangers here. Regarding the "swearing": do not give a reason, it is not difficult.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 37 New
              -2
              Read the site rules to get started. Do not reserve this sandbox only for yourself
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 11 June 2013 00: 54 New
              -1
              Quote: mizantrop
              Well, they would sort out their relationship on their own platforms. Here it is inappropriate. You are strangers here. Regarding the "swearing": do not give a reason, it is not difficult.

              That's right. Therefore, in order not to clog the showdown, I wrote this to Mr. PM.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 36 New
          -2
          Misanthrope (from the Greek. Μίσος - “hatred” and άνθρωπος - “man”, hater, boyar. Unsociable) is a person who, by default, feels hostility, contempt or hatred of people.
          1. mizantropi
            mizantropi 11 June 2013 00: 49 New
            +2
            In my case, misanthropy is very selective, it does not apply to all representatives of the species Homo sapiens ... I know the rules of the site. And in general, I will repeat to consolidate the material: "do not tell me what to do ...", further in the text.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 59 New
              -2
              I do not say, I remind. Check the rules more often.
              1. mizantropi
                mizantropi 11 June 2013 01: 10 New
                +2
                Does something change often there? An attempt to "leave the last word for yourself"? Is it worth it?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 15 New
                  -4
                  Can I answer a question with a question?
        3. Oberst_71
          Oberst_71 11 June 2013 10: 40 New
          +3
          Well, yes, their task is to control everything. Here they are everywhere and urinate. See what kind of conversations are talking. Like Aunt Sonya at the Odessa drive. We need Jews for now. Let them bargain with Arabs. And then the Arabs will switch to us. And let the outflow of their Russian counterparts to their historical homeland go. As for the Jews fit or not fit, then how the face will sound. As Sasha says, the face will climb. Such is their task.
    3. Che
      Che 11 June 2013 23: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Chavy

      Aron Zawi sent me a threatening message that they would meet me with handcuffs at the airport and cancel my Israeli passport, so I will continue to write nothing more about Israel, only good or nothing at all.

      Zionism is a terrible force, but it is necessary to resist it, as well as any manifestation of fascism, so do not worry, you can do without the sands of the Negev desert.
  31. Russ69
    Russ69 10 June 2013 22: 57 New
    +2
    The title of the article, cool ... Tipo, Israel will not respond to provocations.
    As if he is always white and fluffy and never provokes himself. Today, even with all the desire, you will not find the right and the wrong. According to the idea, everyone is "good" and each side has its own truth, with a bunch of facts.
  32. Day 11
    Day 11 10 June 2013 22: 59 New
    0
    This, perhaps, will be more interesting. Who will determine which series of Foker?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 23: 28 New
      -1
      FW-190 D9, vestimo
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 10 June 2013 23: 43 New
        0
        Well done, Zhenya! You’re dragging! She’s the most, Dora. Some people say that it’s TA-152
  33. Day 11
    Day 11 10 June 2013 23: 30 New
    +1
    Does one of my site fail?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 10 June 2013 23: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Den 11
      Does one of my site fail?
      And what does this manifest ...?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 10 June 2013 23: 55 New
        +2
        TA-152 (or 154?), Baltic, 1946. At that time, we had no high-altitude interceptors! I had to be content with trophies
    2. builder
      builder 10 June 2013 23: 42 New
      +1
      also buggy
  34. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 23: 51 New
    -2
    Quote: AlNikolaich

    Yeah !!! Mossad fell into his clutches! lol
    Comrade So that your death is not in vain, put on the belt of a martyr! Like I’m dying but I don’t give up! soldier

    The option is easier too. Burn your Israeli passport and score on my warning. A foreign citizen has every right to carry any garbage about Israel. There are plenty of such people here, they do not bother the Israelis. Rather, they add interest to the pick. But this one .... A completely different matter. No jokes here.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 11 June 2013 00: 04 New
      0
      Yes, hammer you in! Basically, people here are normal! Love-dislike --- kindergarten "Daisy"
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 11 June 2013 00: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      The option is easier too. Burn your Israeli passport and score on my warning.

      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Quite a different matter. No jokes here.

      Damn, guys ... Somehow it smells like Ezhovshchina, 37 year ...
      It seems like a democratic country ... After all, if someone determines what is garbage and what is not, then this is already bullshit!
      And more handcuffs ... ??? Have you even got there ???
      Remind Netanyahu and his henchmen what Yezhov finished for such numbers ... Except for jokes!
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 03: 22 New
        +2
        And I heard Israel is primarily a nationalist country, and then everything else ... They lied to me?
      2. Che
        Che 11 June 2013 23: 34 New
        0
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        Damn, guys ... Somehow it smells like Ezhovshchina, 37 year ...
        It seems like a democratic country ... After all, if someone determines what is garbage and what is not, then this is garbage!
        And more handcuffs ... ??? Have you even got there ???
        Remind Netanyahu and his henchmen what Yezhov finished for such numbers ... Except for jokes!

        And amers for this can be sentenced to death.
  35. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 11 June 2013 00: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    ]
    Damn, guys ... Somehow it smells like Ezhovshchina, 37 year ...
    Alas, Israel did not yet have Stalin.
    In general, there is such a clause in the legislation of any country: Deliberately false information "and you need to answer for it. You personally can even smear Mr. Israel, and his citizen must be responsible for his words. Criticize, but as much as you like. Read under what pressure from the press. and some of the most popular prime ministers Golda Meir or Menachem Begin left power, but slander is a punishable thing.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 44 New
      -3
      No, there was none. Was a stranger 8)
      1. builder
        builder 11 June 2013 00: 56 New
        0
        Interesting photo. What year?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 14 New
          0
          51st, if not mistaken. In Israel, in general, an interesting socialist topic was.
      2. Day 11
        Day 11 11 June 2013 00: 59 New
        0
        Serious is this uncle Aron, yes Eugene? What about Ta-152 (154), what do you mean? After all, this is not Dora? By the way, Bashar oppresses, wow he presses!
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Day 11
        Day 11 11 June 2013 01: 24 New
        -1
        By the way, which car? Who has what options? I have my own option, but for now I will not say anything, I’ll listen to yours!
        1. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 11 June 2013 01: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: Den 11
          By the way, which car? Who has what options?

          The car is American. Either White, or Marmont.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 11 June 2013 01: 42 New
            -1
            It also seems to me that this is White Super Power
      5. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 11 June 2013 01: 25 New
        -1
        Quote: Pimply
        No, there was none. Was a stranger 8)

        Why is it a stranger then? Still they knew, Comrade Stalin, the father of all nations! I agree with the builder, the photo is interesting.
      6. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 03: 35 New
        0
        He was a stranger to everyone. Georgia believes the Russians then occupied them.
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 11 June 2013 01: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      in general, there is such a clause in the legislation of any country: knowingly false information "and you need to answer for it.

      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      But slander is punishable.

      Aron, everything is clear with the legislation. The point is those who determine that there is slander and deliberately false infa. And what is the truth! And with this classification in Israel, apparently, the authorities are very free to dispose of! If we are talking about handcuffs and deprivation of a passport! The approach is clear, which corresponds to the opinion of the authorities, is appointed by "truth", which does not correspond, no matter how obvious it may be, "slander" ... After all, until now Israel has not confessed to possessing nuclear weapons, and is prosecuting people who claim to have Israel's nuclear weapons (although this is a proven fact!).
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Alas, Israel did not yet have Stalin.
      -Judging by these words, you regret it ... By the way, I didn’t mention Stalin! Yezhov and his accomplices are to blame for the illegal repressions of the late 30's!
    3. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 11 June 2013 10: 41 New
      +2
      Begin? Was he the English soldier hanging on the strings?
  36. fenix57
    fenix57 11 June 2013 00: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Pimply
    Qatar and Saudi Arabia are the main players.

    How active they would have been, had the United States and Great Britain not supported them. It seems to me that these, as you called them, "the main players" would have long since "gone away".
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 58 New
      -3
      Yes it is. These are super rich countries with their own interests. You see the USA out of habit as puppeteers. Look at the history, at least the fuel crisis of the 70s and what caused it. Read a little about the Emir of Qatar. The United States has influence in both countries. But Qatar and Saudi Arabia also have their influence on the United States and their policies, the United States is often not very happy. The USA is now playing the third violin, and is very confused. This is evident in all these throwings about weapons. But Qatar and Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, have long blended into everything. The second violin is played by Turkey, Europe (primarily France - Syria is its former patrimony) and Jordan (although it is more so as not to disappear itself). And then the USA.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 11 June 2013 01: 14 New
        0
        I agree with you, Eugene! Obama is now having such a hard time. It is very difficult to cater to both of these, and this is very difficult. On the one hand, you need to remain a secular person, and on the other, they are crushing!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 11 June 2013 01: 18 New
          0
          The issue is not at all in the roots - he is a Protestant, and grew up in a Protestant family. The horse was carried, and he runs nearby and tries to jump into the saddle.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 11 June 2013 01: 30 New
            0
            Is Duck Eugene a TA-152 or Dora? Your opinion?
          2. builder
            builder 11 June 2013 01: 37 New
            +2
            Politicians of this level recall their roots in elections
          3. Aljavad
            Aljavad 11 June 2013 03: 44 New
            0
            or not fall under the hooves?
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 11 June 2013 03: 43 New
        +1
        Right! Qatar and the Saudis wanted influence in proportion to wealth. And with Europe and the States, they simply periodically coincide with their interests, although the game is completely their own.
        THE WORLD HAS MUCH MULTIPOLAR. And the States no longer keep up with everything.
      3. Che
        Che 11 June 2013 23: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Pimply

        That amers removed unwanted rulers in Saudi Arabia, why would it.
  37. Orel
    Orel 11 June 2013 05: 52 New
    +2
    I think the situation is as follows. Israel understands that if Assad loses, then for Israel everything will only get worse, because the terrorist territory on the border does not contribute to a quiet life. Assad is forced to help Hezbollah, because he needs their support in deterring terrorists in Lebanon and help in the fight against the militant on the territory of Syria itself. Israel does not want to strengthen Hezbollah because it considers them a threat to its security, and therefore Israel destroys all Syrian convoys with weapons for Hezbollah, but the overthrow of Assad is not beneficial for Israel. East is a delicate matter. In fact, I think that Israel and Syria are essentially for one thing, so that there is order in Syria, and that democracy and autocracy do not care, the main thing is that Israel is calm and hopes that Assad will hold on, as those who come his successors will be a much bigger problem for Israel.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 11 June 2013 10: 44 New
      0
      Jews are here. Therefore, your reasoning is what is bad and what is good for them is not interesting. Wherever you turn they are always right! They are all offended by God.
  38. Vtel
    Vtel 11 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    Israel should ensure its defense only by relying on its own forces. The situation with peacekeepers only emphasizes this, the Israeli prime minister is sure.

    Concerning only their strengths, this is firmly said if the aggressive face of the USA had not loomed behind their stern. True, their friends, the Austrians are not fools, after a showdown in the Golan, they quickly shed from their homes.
    "The problem with the UN contingent in the Golan clearly shows that Israel cannot trust international contingents for its security," he said.

    That's right - politics is kosher, it turns out that international forces cannot be trusted because they may not be controlled by Israel and may not fulfill their super task.
  39. faraon
    faraon 11 June 2013 11: 14 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Phantom Revolution
    For 3 years before the events. About 5 years

    What are you talking about, 5 years ago, they unanimously elected Assad. Who dug then?

    I am amazed at the scale of the underground works for laying tunnels. As a specialist in this field, I can say that taking into account all the composing soil, the geological conditions for these purposes need special equipment, as well as appropriate specialists. I can state with full confidence that the work was carried out before the Civil War by the Assad government, for purely military purposes, with special mining equipment, followed by soil removal (for example: under normal conditions, a mining team with a combine harvester passes three meters per day with fasteners, and what do we we see here penetration + soil removal + concreting, this is a very large volume of work requiring experienced workers, special equipment and large means, which the rebels do not have and could not be. So, according to the comments, there were militants clearly not familiar with mining in the ranks of the rebel army
  40. faraon
    faraon 11 June 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    Quote: phantom359
    In the Hippocratic oath, too, a lot of good is written. Listen directly, so carry Arabs in your arms. better tell us how many civilians were threatened by your flyers and artillery.

    Do not judge for yourself, the economic situation in your country is somewhat different than in Israel - hence your view of things related to humanitarian assistance. Unlike other countries in Israel, there is a humanitarian agreement between all warring groups. That hospitals, hospitals and other medical institutions are obliged to provide first aid to victims of terrorist attacks, natural disasters and other disasters. The territory of medical institutions is a neutral zone and is not a military object. (Therefore, in our medical institutions you can see almost everyone regardless of religion and religion. The same is the situation in the penitentiary system. (everyone has the same rights. Everyone has the same rights) A terrorist who killed your family and threw a knife right before your eyes is not subject to destruction, but only to criminal prosecution.
    As for artillery and aviation. Before art preparation, a special operation is carried out - notification of the civilian population through loudspeakers, scattering leaflets, etc. etc.
    Aviation carries out targeted elimination of terrorists in an effort to minimize casualties among the local population
  41. faraon
    faraon 12 June 2013 09: 19 New
    0
    Quote: fisherman
    "Israel will not get involved in the Syrian conflict"
    in other words, Israel does not want to test the strength of the Syrian S-300
    it’s not easy for you to fly over peaceful Palestinians and bomb them

    Dear Fisherman, show me the place where peaceful Palestinians live?
    By its definition, there is no such people and state. For example, it looks like this: imagine that representatives of the Muslim world from various countries came to Russia, occupied empty territories, settled down, showed themselves little people, and announced a new caliphate from the Arctic Ocean to India, (which In principle, what’s happening now is that you don’t see this.?) Then they began to demand more territorial concessions to the law, etc. etc. Having called all this a liberation movement, under this slogan they started conducting demonstrations and protest actions turning into terrorist acts (what is happening in Russia)
    I have a question for you as the representative of the titular Nation of Russia - will Russia suffer such impudence? And what kind of reaction will it be?
    Dear no double standards we and you, look around, open your eyes and analyze the current situation in which rockets fly at the heads of the civilian population (the titular nation).
    1. phantom359
      phantom359 12 June 2013 10: 24 New
      0
      Oh yes, it’s right about double standards.) When you support any evil spirits, then this is helping the rebels in the fight against the "dictator", and when they knock on your face, then they are terrorists. I wonder how much stench would go up if Syrian planes hit your territory. Nobody invited you there, but you are climbing there, into a country that is destabilized by extremists, where more civilians are killed than the military, NATO members are pressing with their sanctions. so you fuss too. And you do not need to hide behind beautiful words, your goals are already clear.
      1. faraon
        faraon 12 June 2013 15: 03 New
        +1
        Well, to begin with, we don’t go in there, but only worry about our further relations with the Hezbollah terrorist group. Syrian affairs are internal to their affairs. Israel is only interested in the relations of Syria and Hezbollah in order to prevent the transfer of weapons to this organization, because later it can be used against the civilian population of Israel.
        Israel is not going to get involved in the conflict, it doesn’t need it and why, it’s again I repeat the internal business of Syria.
        Israel does not mind that the Russian peacekeeping contingent will replace all the woes of warriors who did not cope with the task. The Israeli government believes that the Russian contingent will be the guarantor of the security of the Israeli borders and will not allow the conflict in Syria to spread throughout the Middle East.
        So dear, before you hang up labels, carefully read everything related to Syrian-Israeli relations.
        P / S. Syria is still at war with Israel. So I think the comments are superfluous. All this lasts 40 years.