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The war in Ossetia. Memories of the participants

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The war in Ossetia. Memories of the participants1 August 2008 was attended by officers of the Ministry of the Interior of South Ossetia - personnel officers and riot policemen in Vladikavkaz. They appealed to the Ossetian branch of the Union of Paratroopers of Russia and to the Cossacks with a request to help equip riot policemen with professionals: snipers, specialists in mine-demolition, operators of the BMP (infantry fighting vehicle. - Ed.) And BMD (airborne combat vehicle. - Ed.). I say to their representative colonel: “Tomorrow is the Day of the Airborne Forces. Every year on this day, we first commemorate our fallen comrades, and then the holiday itself begins - the day of the Airborne Forces. Come by ten o'clock in the morning to the Walk of Fame, where the guys who died in the Ingush events at the beginning of the 90s and in Chechnya are buried. I will introduce you, and you yourself will tell specifically who you need and in what quantities, how many people. ”


In the morning of August 2 by ten in the morning they did not come. We waited for them, waited. And it was almost twelve o'clock in the afternoon. I started calling South Ossetia to congratulate our paratroopers. And they say to me: “On the night from first to second, Georgians — snipers and mortar gunners — fired upon Tskhinval, six people died, more than ten were wounded. So we are not up to the holiday. ” I understood why their representatives were not with us. At night, when they were informed about the shelling, they all urgently left for Tskhinval.

We have already remembered the dead, drank for the holiday. Therefore, I didn’t say anything about the shelling to the guys - but they were all in a samurai mood and would have gone on foot to Tskhinval without stopping. I just said to my asset: "We are meeting tomorrow, we need to discuss some issue."

On the third of August, I told them what had happened on the night from the first to the second of August and that the Ministry of Interior of South Ossetia was asking for help from people. The guys answer me: “You, commander, go to the place and figure it out yourself: who they need, how many people. We will need then three or four days: for someone to quit their job, for someone to arrange their own vacation, for someone to complete household chores. ”

On the night of August 4 and 5, I and five other paratroopers left for Tskhinval. We arrived at five in the morning. The leadership of the republic assigned us to the Ossetian battalion fighters who stood in Khetagurovo. This is the first settlement on the way from the Georgian positions to Tskhinval. It is shaped like a horseshoe and is surrounded on the perimeter by Georgian villages.

On the sixth of August there were two strongest shelling of Khetagurovo. I sent an SMS message to the Chairman of the Union of Paratroopers of Russia, Colonel-General Vladislav Alekseevich Achalov. He immediately called me back. Just went fight. I even picked up the phone in the direction that he himself heard what was happening.

The problem at that time was that against our hand grenade launchers and small weapons the Georgians had mortars, infantry fighting vehicles, that is, heavy weapons. Forces because of this, we were unequal with them.

The village of Khetagurovo itself is located on a high-rise. And on another high-rise about a kilometer, if in a straight line, the Georgians built a fortified area. There they buried BMP-2 in the caponiers, made long-term firing points. They also had mortars and heavy machine guns there.

Ossetian fighters were dispersed at checkpoints, which are located between Khetagurovo and Georgian villages. But the Georgians were mostly firing at the village itself. There were a lot of inhabitants in it, because they basically had nowhere to go. I have already spoken about the shape of the village in the form of a horseshoe. In Tskhinval it was possible to leave only along the Zar road, the section of which was well fired from the Georgian villages.

The goal of the Georgians was obvious: to inflict maximum losses on the civilian population, so that people would panic and start fleeing the village. The fact is that Khetagurovo was, as the military usually says, a tank-dangerous direction. It is through Khetagurovo Georgians Tanks and then entered into Tskhinval. And shelling is a fire preparation before a tank attack. Only usually in such cases, fire is fought at the enemy’s combat positions and their defensive structures. And here the Georgians leveled the village itself with the civilians.

Achalov says to me: “Go to Tskhinval to the Minister of Defense of South Ossetia, tell us about the situation and explain what is missing for organizing the defense. I, for my part, will go out to the First Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia, who previously commanded the Airborne Forces, and talk about the situation. ”

The first shelling lasted two and a half hours. After talking with Achalov, I turned to the commander of the Ossetian battalion. He gave me a car with a driver, and I went to Tskhinval to the Minister of Defense, Major General Vasily Vasilyevich Lunev, and told him about the situation. And he answers me: “I sent a request two months ago, where it should be, just for heavy weapons. But for now, silence. ” I also told him about the conversation with Achalov. And he told me: “It is inconvenient to act somehow over the head of my leadership.” And I sit and think to myself: “You, brother, the war begins, and you think about the chain of command”. But I didn't say anything out loud - he is still a general, I can't talk to him like that.

On that day, just during a meeting of the security forces of South Ossetia in Tskhinval, where I was present, there was the second strong shelling of Khetagurovo. Therefore, on the night of August 7, the South Ossetian Defense Ministry sent three T-55 tanks and two infantry combat vehicles to Khetagurovo. By the way, all the armored forces of South Ossetia at that time consisted of five T-55 tanks of the 1955 model of the year. And these three tanks began an artillery duel with Georgian fortified skyscrapers, from where they fired at Khetagurovo.

Says tankman Vladimir V .:

- In Khetagurovo we arrived in the morning of August 7. We were given the task of destroying the Georgian fortified area, which was located on a high-rise building near Khetagurovo. In 2004, the Georgians beat off this high-rise. And over the next four years, this fortified region “drank all the blood” from those who were in Khatugurovo: from there, shelling of the village itself and the positions of our fighters around it constantly went.

We discovered the Georgian positions in advance and knew that the Georgians had a tank, infantry fighting vehicles and "bassoons" (anti-tank missile systems. - Ed.). We decided to use the so-called “tactics of jump” against the Georgians. This is quite a risky venture, but it has produced results. The bottom line is this: our infantry fighting vehicle leaves the shelter for an open place, opens fire on Georgian positions and moves back as quickly as possible. The Georgians, of course, answer: they hit the place from where the BMP fired. But she is no longer there, she has departed. And at this moment we mark their firing points. Then our tank goes straight, makes several shots and also moves back.

The fight turned out to be transient, lasted no more than an hour. We had to go out on direct fire three times. In the tank I had a full ammunition - forty-one projectile. We fired quite intensively, and I fired all the shells, except fifteen armor-piercing. They shoot in this situation was useless: after all, it's just iron bars.

According to the results, we can say that we shot out successfully, almost every shot found its target. Georgian tank, BMP and almost all those who were on the high-rise, were destroyed. After the war, I climbed to this height, and then I talked with the residents of the surrounding villages. They said that after this battle, about forty Georgians were left to lie here.

Yes, one more thing is interesting. Then, precisely on the seventh of August, television journalists from one of the Russian channels worked in Khetagurovo. The battle began, and they were shooting with television cameras, and at the same time we were still assigned tasks: turn the tower there, turn it here ... I had to get out of the tank and send them far away. And just at that moment, a shell is torn right next to the TV people. The place is swampy there, so the correspondent was covered with mud from head to toe ... We thought that he, for sure, came to an end, because the gap was very close. We run up - and he is all dirty, his eyes blink. But - not a single scratch! ..

When the battle was over, the connection was almost completely lost: the Georgians began to jam her. And sometimes the connection appeared again. But, as it turned out, just at this very moment the Georgians recorded our negotiations.

Our shells are over, there was no place to fill the tanks, so we had to leave Khetagurovo to Tskhinval. And at four o'clock in the morning of the 8th of August, Georgian troops already entered Khetagurovo. Our tanks, on the same day, transferred even further, to Java. After all, the Russian troops, who had already begun to approach Tskhinval, in the heat of battle could well have confused the Ossetian tanks with the Georgian ones.

Alexander Yanovich Slanov reports:

“The stronghold in the high-rise managed to destroy.” But then the Georgians began to shoot at Khetagurovo from 152-millimeter self-propelled guns (self-propelled artillery. - Ed.). These installations were in the neighboring Georgian villages at a distance of no more than five kilometers. Two and a half or three long-suffering Khetagurovo Georgians from these "saushek" ironed for about an hour.

Our T-55 tanks are very old. And their lifespan was almost fully developed, and their ammunition was also old. And in general, after the intensive battle, our shells are almost gone. Therefore, our tank crews could no longer fully continue the artillery duel with Georgian self-propelled guns.

In Tskhinval, on the afternoon of the seventh of August, it became known that Saakashvilli was on television and announced a truce. Our attitude to his speech was twofold. It seems that he officially announced a truce, in fact, this is a serious statement, so, at least, it should be. Therefore, we still had hope for peace.

I left Khetagurovo to meet with the Minister of the Interior in order to discuss the issue for which I ended up here - the recruitment of riot police. My friend, who came to Khetagurovo to pick me up, took me from there. The minister said that he was going to negotiate with the Georgians. Then he says: “Tomorrow, come at ten o'clock, we'll talk more with you.” Then there were already problems with gasoline. A friend suggested to me: “Come on, you will spend the night with me, so as not to drive the car back and forth. And tomorrow, after talking with the minister, I will take you to Khetagurovo. ”

At half past eleven on the night of August 7, the first mines and shells flew to Tskhinval, and then the city began to work. Many people in the city were already asleep at that time. Someone else was watching TV, someone was late with dinner. And here begins a massive artillery fire on the sleeping, essentially, city. Worked very methodically and in an organized way. CITES will produce a volley, begin to reload - at this time beat 152-millimeter SAU and 120-millimeter mortars. Everything was thought out.

But tanks could enter Tskhinval practically only through Khetagurovo. Our fighters, who were mostly scattered around checkpoints, were ordered to retreat to Java along the Zar road. It hurt the forces were unequal. Hand grenade launchers, which were ours, hit only six hundred and fifty meters. And the tank has a direct shot range of almost two kilometers. Therefore, the Georgians, whose tanks entered Khetagurovo at four o'clock in the morning, the village, one might say, simply unrolled the caterpillars as they wanted ...

On the morning of August 8, “rooks” appeared over Tskhinval (SU-25, a front bomber. - Ed.). They flew very low, it was clear that they were camouflage. The people thought it was the “rooks” of the Russian people, people ran out into the streets - they wave their hands, greet them. And Georgian aircraft at this time turned around and hit the civilian population with rockets.

By two o'clock the Georgians occupied more than half of Tskhinval. There was resistance all over the city. Some of our fighters managed to move away, while others remained in the rear of the Georgians. As they advanced through the city, their artillery carried fire to those areas that had not yet been captured so that they would not strike at their own. I myself was at this time in the area of ​​Tekstilshchiki. On it the fire of hail practically did not stop. Minutes for three intensity subsided, although at this time shells from SAU and mines flew all the same. And then again began to work hail.

I can say for sure that the residents of Tskhinvali held together very closely. They helped each other, hid in their basements those who had no basements. There was no particular panic either. But there was an absolute understanding: hope is only for Russia. Everyone was waiting: well, when will the Russian troops finally appear?

At around three o'clock in the afternoon of the eighth of August, Russian military commanders went on the radio. We began to request ours by their call sign: "Where are you, go to the position." They answer: “Good. Will there be any help? ” Answer: "Yes, there will be help." But, as far as I know, by that time the Russian troops had not entered the territory of South Ossetia.

Our fighters from the Ministry of Defense of South Ossetia, the Interior Ministry, the KGB, the militia regrouped and attacked the Georgians. In the city, having hand grenade launchers, it is already possible to fight with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. Remember how many of our tanks were shot down at the time of the storming of Grozny. I don’t know how many units of Georgian armored vehicles were shot down. But the figure sounded: about twenty-five. On the streets there are many dead Georgians. When they were attacked, they began to run into houses, hide ...

I was near the radio station, which worked on the wave, where our field commanders conducted negotiations among themselves. They asked each other about the situation in the area of ​​responsibility, coordinated actions. And through their talks, it became clear that by eight o'clock in the evening Tskhinval had been practically cleared. About nine o'clock two BMPs were shot down and two more BMPs were captured. Besides, the villages near Tskhinval were also cleaned.

Shelling continued all night from eighth to ninth. Again, dozens of hailstones, self-propelled guns and mortars hit the city again. On the morning of August 9, their attack aircraft again bombed the city. On the morning of August 9, closer to the dinner, Anatoly Konstantinovich Barankevich went on the air. Previously, he was the Minister of Defense of South Ossetia, then became secretary of the Security Council. He himself was also in Tskhinval on the eighth of August, personally knocked out a tank. He requested the call of the field commanders. Those reported to him the situation. The negotiations were, of course, conditional codes. Barankevich, in turn, was visited by a representative of the Russian troops, his call sign was “Strelok” (the call sign was changed. - Ed.).

Our commanders reported to Barankevich that they were observing a large accumulation of Georgian infantry and about one hundred and fifty armored vehicles. They called the coordinates. Barankevich gave these coordinates to Strelka and said: “Guys, cover them while they are in the area of ​​waiting or concentrating.” They replied: "We understand you, now we will cover with artillery." An hour and a half or two hours passed, but the Russian troops didn’t open fire on the gathering of Georgian manpower and equipment ...

I myself was all in the same area Tekstilshchiki. He was constantly upstairs, but somewhere for dinner he went down to the basement, where the radio station was located, to listen to the latest news. Women cry. I ask: "What happened?". They answer: “The commanders on the radio report that the grenade rounds are almost over. From the district, which is popularly called Shanghai, Georgian troops began to enter the city again. ”

Resistance to the Georgians was still, our guys rested to the last. But already had problems with ammunition, especially with rocket-propelled grenades. Without this, how to fight tanks? I heard the field commanders interrogate each other about what was left of them, and discussed how to keep the defense going. And the situation has reached the point that the Georgians have already begun stripping in the areas through which they entered Tskhinval. As far as I know, twelve thousand Georgian infantrymen and about one hundred and fifty armored vehicles entered that day. There were still no Russian troops in Tskhinval.

Then, in this critical situation, the decision was made: as long as there is an opportunity, to break through and take out the women who were in the basements to Java. There are two Zar roads: one is old, the other is new, a bypass. The women and I went to the old Zar road, I was on it for the first time in my life.

When we climbed the mountain, the view of Tskhinval opened. He looked like Stalingrad. There were several Russian infantry fighting vehicles on the road, but they did not enter the city ... Further along the road, Georgian villages met. There we were fired at by the Georgian BMP-2. I did not immediately notice her, she was camouflaged. Our BMP is all painted khaki. God bless this Georgian - ֪ BMP operator - because he didn’t get into us. We are on a white old gazelle barely crawling up the hill. He turned four rounds, and they lay right next to the gazelle. He shot from the bottom up, but the distance in a straight line was only about three hundred or four hundred meters which meant he could have been blown apart. I don’t know: whether he didn’t want to hit us, or he somehow didn’t take the target.

We jumped over the mountain and began to descend. Here we were shot at from a PC (Kalashnikov machine gun. - Ed.). It's good that we went under the slope, and they, it seems, only at the last moment we noticed. They gave a long line to the tracer, but according to us, thank God, they did not hit either.

Then we drove up to some village, where Russian tanks were already equipped with active armor, with guards badges on the hatches. We saw how wounded Russian soldiers were loaded into "Urals". Then we jumped out of the old Zar road to a new one. And our “sushki” were already there, at regular intervals - “Tunguski” (an anti-aircraft missile-gun complex for fighting air targets. - Ed.). And when we descended along the serpentine road to Java, we saw Russian tanks, armored vehicles marching towards us ... And at that moment we felt that victory would be ours.

The most terrible thing in all this nightmare was the doubt that the Russian leadership in general would decide on the deployment of troops. When I went down to the basement, the women cried because more than half of the city Georgians took. Stripping began, information appeared about the destruction of the civilian population. And women with crying asked: “Where is Russia, did she really leave us?” But Russia, thank God, did not abandon them in trouble.
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  1. Dima190579
    Dima190579 17 June 2013 08: 15 New
    +1
    Everyone has their own war.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 17 June 2013 08: 30 New
      +8
      Quote: Dima190579
      Everyone has their own war.

      More precisely, a look at the past war and its assessment ...
    2. discard
      discard 18 June 2013 08: 11 New
      -6
      Everyone has already forgotten that we did not have a war with Georgia, but was just an “Operation to Force Georgia to Peace,” launched by our ruling duomvirate.
  2. Army1
    Army1 17 June 2013 09: 32 New
    11
    And all because of Srakashvili, a Western prostitute.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 17 June 2013 19: 45 New
      +1
      No - you need to look deeper - after the collapse of the Russian Empire, all the outlying provinces were seized with a "desire for independence" - Finland, the Baltic states, which at first supported legitimate power and the white movement, split off after Lenin began to yell about the right of small peoples to "sovereignty" ( who does not believe - study this period), and what happened in the Caucasus and Asia - only basmachism was worth it, but there were also "peacekeepers". The same Georgians at first demanded that when entering the USSR they were left the right to leave. And after the collapse of the Union, history repeated itself - the only difference is that it is now covered in the media, and so are Western friends, interethnic purges and Russian guys trying to save at least someone.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 18 June 2013 01: 43 New
        +3
        This is when the Balts supported "legitimate authority"? Can I have some examples? The same is true for dates.
        And perhaps the most important thing. Who was "legitimate authority" then? And what was the "legitimacy" of this power?
        Imperial power fell like a leaf from a maple tree in the fall. No one began to defend tsarism. But this power, at least, was legitimate according to the laws of that time. Then there was the Provisional Government. And who appointed this "Provisional Government"? Thought? So she was not even a legislative body in the Empire. So on what basis did they create the Provisional Government? What was his legitimacy? So the legitimacy of the EP is not a little higher than that of the Soviets.
        As for the "cries of sovereignty." And what remained of the Bolsheviks to do in the conditions of the siege from all sides and from the white movements and from our "Western partners" - the interventionists. What, did they need to allow militias against the new government of the armed detachments of the outskirts of the Empire? Well, how the Bolsheviks were going to "observe" their "cries of sovereignty" - you can see the example of Ukraine and the same Caucasian and Central Asian republics. And Poland, on occasion, since they themselves asked for it, tried to "return to the fraternal family of peoples", in vain, by the way, IMHO. Poles wherever they appear are gangrene.
        Moreover, after thirty years, they collected almost everything back, except for dates.
    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 18 June 2013 05: 51 New
      0
      no, not because of him - Russia gave birth to this trash
  3. ups
    ups 17 June 2013 09: 35 New
    13
    But Russia, thank God, did not abandon them in trouble.
    Truly glory.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 17 June 2013 10: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: ups
      But Russia, thank God, did not abandon them in trouble.

      As the saying goes, we don’t give up!
      1. Rider
        Rider 17 June 2013 16: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: omsbon
        As they say, we do not abandon our own!


        if it had always been like this, we would not have a price.
        I am glad that this time, that is exactly how it was.
  4. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 17 June 2013 10: 01 New
    +2
    this is not the only genocide by the Georgians it seems under Tsar Nicholas 2 the Georgians also hated the Ossetians from time immemorial somewhere I saw that the Ossetians used to serve in the guards in prison guards and hard labor
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 17 June 2013 19: 37 New
      +2
      Ossetians were one of the few nations that served in the Russian Imperial Army. And among the Georgians, the aristocracy served mainly.
    2. OCD
      OCD 19 June 2013 17: 48 New
      0
      Ossetians served in the convoy of His Imperial Greatness. Prisons and hard labor were not guarded.
  5. revers-trotil
    revers-trotil 17 June 2013 10: 07 New
    10
    Even then, it was necessary to dismiss the Minister of Defense.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 17 June 2013 10: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: revers-trotil
      Even then, it was necessary to dismiss the Minister of Defense.

      Not only this manager, the minister of woodworking, but also the president had to be driven!
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 17 June 2013 11: 21 New
        +6
        The West had high hopes for the Teddy Bear, and it still has. They wanted another humpback type
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 17 June 2013 16: 18 New
          +4
          Gorbachev and Yeltsin acted hand in hand, that is, checking their plans and hours;) Simply, Yeltsin in the end became more in demand, and therefore stole his accomplice. I think there is no need to explain the analogy? ;)
  6. PValery53
    PValery53 17 June 2013 10: 20 New
    +4
    Yes, the delay in making a decision is like death. It’s good that they still decided. And the Georgians, you see, the heroes fight only 100 against one ...
  7. ed65b
    ed65b 17 June 2013 10: 36 New
    +7
    And thank God that they did not abandon. For me it is better that Georgians do not like me than Ossetians. But Saakashvili did what Gamsakhurdia and Shvarnadze could not do, he divorced 4 people in different directions for many years. Moreover, Shvarnadze lives in Russia and does not bother the bastard.
    1. Rider
      Rider 17 June 2013 16: 16 New
      +8
      Quote: ed65b
      For me it is better that Georgians do not like me than Ossetians.


      Ossetians are the stronghold of Russia in the North / Caucasus.
      they, one of the few Caucasian peoples who will stand for Russia to the end.
      their neighbors are such that without the Russians they will all multiply by zero.
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 17 June 2013 21: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      . Moreover, Shvarnadze lives in Russia and does not bother the bastard.

      Does this bastard really live in Russia? Give the address.
    3. biglow
      biglow 18 June 2013 10: 49 New
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      And thank God that they did not abandon. For me it is better that Georgians do not like me than Ossetians. But Saakashvili did what Gamsakhurdia and Shvarnadze could not do, he divorced 4 people in different directions for many years. Moreover, Shvarnadze lives in Russia and does not bother the bastard.

      Shevarnadzhe seems to live in Georgia and not in Russia
  8. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 17 June 2013 10: 43 New
    10
    In this war, we saw that America did not dare to enter into a direct military clash in Russia
    In fact, the "Caribbean Crisis -2" happened
    The tie eater was waiting for the amers to destroy the rock tunnel
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 17 June 2013 13: 35 New
      +2
      They understand that fighting a nuclear power is too dangerous!
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 17 June 2013 13: 42 New
      +2
      I so misunderstood the special forces of Georgia the first thing before the shelling did not destroy the tunnel
      1. Army1
        Army1 17 June 2013 13: 46 New
        +8
        Quote: Clever man
        I so misunderstood the special forces of Georgia the first thing before the shelling did not destroy the tunnel

        Much remains a secret, and the war did not start on August 8, and specialists from the GRU processed this tunnel even earlier, because if they hadn’t processed it, they would have easily crushed the column.
      2. smile
        smile 17 June 2013 18: 24 New
        +3
        smart ass
        The Roki Tunnel was very seriously guarded. The drg had virtually no chance of destroying it, especially considering the level of training of the Saakashvili army.
  9. Stock captain
    Stock captain 17 June 2013 10: 58 New
    +9
    States seek the interests of others by blood, Srakashvili is simply a puppet whom they armed, they trained the army on the Amer’s model and Amer’s advisers. The main goal was to discredit Russia at any outcome, they will not help Ossetia, you can bend further, they will help to make the aggressor. The tragedy and deaths of civilians in Tskhinval mean nothing to the West, they burn their own in twin skyscrapers.
  10. sys-1985
    sys-1985 17 June 2013 11: 14 New
    +3
    War is fear. Let's hope that the desire for conquest from the Georgians was repelled by at least 25 years ...
  11. scliss
    scliss 17 June 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    Su-25 - attack aircraft, not a bomber
  12. Moccal
    Moccal 17 June 2013 13: 16 New
    +6
    And this is just the beginning of the guys. I recommend everyone to lead a healthy lifestyle to the maximum.
    If possible, do not drink, smoke or master several military specialties.
    It seems that after Syria they will seriously take up Russia.
    We show that we are no worse than our grandfathers, great-grandfathers and great-great-grandfathers.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 17 June 2013 14: 05 New
      0
      don’t! until they cut down nuclear weapons they’ll climb out. They will rock it, finance the opposition, etc.
  13. smart ass
    smart ass 17 June 2013 13: 23 New
    +1
    By the way, everyone dislikes, and in every possible way sniffed “IPHONCHIK” quickly made a competent decision to send troops !!
    1. Sasha
      Sasha 17 June 2013 14: 04 New
      +3
      Watch the movie "Lost Day of War" about the conflict 08.08.08. Perhaps after watching you will think differently.
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 17 June 2013 17: 56 New
        +4
        I watched this film, and made the same conclusion to which he (the film) leads the viewer.
        But now I’ll say an unexpected, probably, thing: I think if Russia rises and history books are written in this way, then Medvedev can probably be thanked, because he still ordered .... but he could not ...
        But we don’t know the whole undercover gutter, because in modern Russia the president is not the most important figure, the most important figure is sitting across the ocean. So the risk was (including for life), and serious, yes, we all are not without sin, not immediately - but he still made a decision.
        You can minus, just think about what I wrote.
  14. Oberst_71
    Oberst_71 17 June 2013 14: 02 New
    +2
    That's always the case. How to trade tangerines on the market in three ways or to drive the Russians out of the country, calling them invaders in the forefront. And when pressed, save. It has been so for centuries!
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 17 June 2013 15: 29 New
    +8
    I watched as a crowd of furious Georgians with machine guns and mats attacked and beat our 2 peacekeepers. How the boys kept grinding their teeth. And how the crowd of healthy Georgian men raged. What a contrasting difference in the behavior of the same Georgian warriors when they met with our own guys to whom it was already possible to answer. Tails pinned, deflated and drooping faces. I felt sorry for them.
  16. Bruevich
    Bruevich 17 June 2013 16: 24 New
    +6
    The documentary above, specifically with a wormhole. On the one hand, the Russian army is praised, on the other hand, the authors' message that the top leadership was slow and slow is clearly traced. And of course, the author of the film deliberately ignores the question of how difficult the decision was. Even taking into account the already complete clarity in the aggression from the Georgian side, remember what pressure was organized in the West. What would have been a preventive strike on our part is hard to imagine. Again recalling those events, for the first time in the post-Soviet period, everyone understood that Russia is fully returning to the world stage and can respond harshly.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 18 June 2013 01: 52 New
      +1
      And what is the severity?
      We were in our own right. By and large, even the Ossetians could not care less. But for attacking our peacekeepers who were there under the UN mandate, we had every right to roll out rodents into a thin pancake. It is a pity that they did not. But pressure - that’s how he always was and will be against Russia. it’s time to get used to it already.
      1. OCD
        OCD 19 June 2013 17: 59 New
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        You spit in your face yourself, bastard, Georgian. I’d like to see you after the bombing from Gradov. And you have one right, to hail your own. I get it.
  17. Eric
    Eric 17 June 2013 19: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: Uhe
    Gorbachev and Yeltsin acted hand in hand, that is, checking their plans and hours;) Simply, Yeltsin in the end became more in demand, and therefore stole his accomplice. I think there is no need to explain the analogy? ;)

    All right!
  18. EvilDentist
    EvilDentist 17 June 2013 20: 46 New
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    I clicked on the video above, almost immediately got out the banner "White Ribbon.rf" and type "subscribe" .. Well, well, it’s clear where the ears grow from?))
    And about the lost day - we all I still don’t know the details very soon, the operations are miscalculated for not 1 or 2 months, including the pentagon, the top management has no right to impulsively respond to provocations, no matter how much he did not want to.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 17 June 2013 21: 44 New
    +1
    The only male act of Dima iPhone
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 17 June 2013 22: 25 New
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      There is another, from another opera, toughening the punishment for pedophilia.
  20. GEO
    GEO 17 June 2013 22: 20 New
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    Quote: Blackgrifon
    No - you need to look deeper - after the collapse of the Russian Empire, all the outlying provinces were seized with a "desire for independence" - Finland, the Baltic states, which at first supported legitimate power and the white movement, split off after Lenin began to yell about the right of small peoples to "sovereignty" ( who does not believe - study this period), and what happened in the Caucasus and Asia - only basmachism was worth it, but there were also "peacekeepers". The same Georgians at first demanded that when entering the USSR they were left the right to leave. And after the collapse of the Union, history repeated itself - the only difference is that it is now covered in the media, and so are Western friends, interethnic purges and Russian guys trying to save at least someone.

    Ossetians ALWAYS wanted to be part of Russia!
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 18 June 2013 00: 02 New
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      So there is no question about that. The empire has always defended the Orthodox peoples - in fact, because of this, our country got involved in the First World War. But Georgians and Ukrainians also wanted to - no one drove them by force, but now we are the "imperialists" and "communists" for them - here you have the fraternal peoples.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 18 June 2013 14: 29 New
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      When Turkey pressed Georgia, the Georgians also wanted to be part of the Russian Empire.
  21. GEO
    GEO 17 June 2013 22: 23 New
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    Quote: soldier's grandson
    this is not the only genocide by the Georgians it seems under Tsar Nicholas 2 the Georgians also hated the Ossetians from time immemorial somewhere I saw that the Ossetians used to serve in the guards in prison guards and hard labor

    In 1922, when the Georgians also trampled from Russia, there was a genocide of Ossetians who wanted to stay with us, exactly the same story repeated in 1992
  22. Cossack23
    Cossack23 18 June 2013 00: 04 New
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    Ossetians-Orthodox warriors are not traders like Armenians and not thieves like Georgians. they have every honor to honor with whom they still have to be if not with us because we are the last bastion of Orthodoxy in the world.
    1. Skuto
      Skuto 18 June 2013 00: 17 New
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      - Pathetic people! - I said to the captain, pointing to our dirty
      the owners, who silently looked at us in some kind of stupefaction.
      - Pregludy people! - he answered. - Believe it? can not do anything
      capable of no education! Oh, at least our Kabardians or
      although the Chechens are robbers, noses, but desperate heads, and these have weapons
      there is no hunting: you will not see a decent dagger on one. Truly
      Ossetians!

      M.Yu. Lermontov "Hero of our time."
      I myself will not say anything bad, but this is a classic ... alas. At the same time, Prince Bagration, I.V. Stalin. This I mean that people do not need to measure immediately: "traders" or "thieves."
  23. demonn
    demonn 18 June 2013 10: 52 New
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    Wow, it turns out that the Ossetians are not capable of anything) But what about then:

    “You cannot immediately distinguish Ossetians from Circassians. But on the other hand, this cavalry caused panic in all ranks of the Turkish cavalry, since it appeared across the river. After 2-3 skirmishes with the Circassians and regular Turkish cavalry, she reached the point that not a single Circassian and not a single Turkish horseman dare to move a mile away in the direction of the Sofia highway "
    From a telegram from the Commander-in-Chief of the Danube Army, Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich (brother of the king), governor of the Caucasus.

    or that:
    “With the permission of the sovereign, I am writing to you a request to send Ossetians as much as possible, with Ossetian horses there are few heroes, give me more of them. Please send as soon as possible. Ossetians worked so much that I will ask them for the St. George flag. ”
    General M.D. Skobelev

    “Ossetians at the head of the Caucasian brigade were the first to join the battle for the Danube, and if they had to be the last, then only during the retreat.”
    Report of Gen. Major Skobelev to the commander of the 11th Army Corps. military man. St. Petersburg 1877

    Continue? Or did you want to say something else quoting Lermontov? For me, Skobelev is for me more authority than Lermontov
    1. Lexo
      Lexo 19 June 2013 18: 15 New
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      Caucasus alone! Caucasians together - FORCE !!!
  24. Commissar of the NKVD
    Commissar of the NKVD 18 June 2013 10: 56 New
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    It is now they and the Abkhaz who say thank you to us. And a certain number of years will pass and no matter how they send us in a certain direction. Precedents in the history of the roof above.
  25. demonn
    demonn 18 June 2013 11: 04 New
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    Yes, yes, since 1774 (the entry of Ossetians into the Russian Empire) they did not send, but now they will send it. Oh well :)
  26. Commissar of the NKVD
    Commissar of the NKVD 18 June 2013 18: 28 New
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    Quote: demonn
    Yes, since 1774 (the entry of Ossetians into the Russian Empire) was not sent

    Ha! Georgia as part of the Russian Empire since 1801. As soon as the Russian troops appeared on the Russian-Georgian border, the Persians who occupied the country and organized a truly terrible genocide of Georgians (by the way, why does Georgia have no claims against Iran?) Fled without trying to grapple with the Russian army.
    What is Georgia now, no need to explain?
  27. kci
    kci 2 October 2013 18: 10 New
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    Ossetia voluntarily! entered the composition of the Russian Empire. Ancestors of Ossetian Alans is a classic western warrior with a straight sword and a pointed helmet. By the way, in Ossetian Don is translated as water (doesn’t it come to mind?) And Laundon (if I’m not mistaken in spelling) is quiet water. In the Great Patriotic War there were many Ossetian heroes. Every fifth went to war and every second died. For such a small republic, this is very