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War of civilizations

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June 6 FSB special forces detained the leader of a Moscow region terrorist gang Yulai Davletbaev. He is not from the North Caucasus, which has long become common news for Russia, and from the Volga region - Bashkiria. Two weeks before that, on the evening of May 20, the Russian FSB destroyed a group of terrorists in Orekhovo-Zuyevo who were preparing a major terrorist attack in the Russian capital. Two gangsters were killed, the third - Robert Amerkhanov - was detained and imprisoned on suspicion of preparing a terrorist act, banditry and illegal manufacturing and trafficking weapons. Two of the criminals were residents of the Republic of Bashkortostan, which in 2010-2013. passed sabotage and terrorist training on the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Three Russians belonged to the Islamic Party of Turkestan international terrorist organization. According to the FSB, several dozens of Bashkirian residents have undergone training under the military-sabotage training program in special camps located in the Afghan-Pakistan border area, and currently there are about 50 immigrants from this republic.

Reference. Islamic Party of Turkestan. The party was created in 1996 and was originally called the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (Islamic Revival Party of Uzbekistan). The basis of the party consisted of militants group Jumaboy Khodzhiev (Juma Namangani), he became the head of the military unit. The political leader of the movement was Takhir Yuldashev, the head of the press center and deputy head - Rustamov Makhmud. The fate of Khodzhiev is quite typical for many figures of the radical Islamist underground: in the 1980s. served in the Airborne Forces, fought in Afghanistan, after serving in the army fell under the influence of local religious activists. He took part in the hostilities in Tajikistan. The headquarters of the movement before the invasion of NATO forces in Afghanistan was located in the city of Kandahar. Many members of the Islamic movement received training in special camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and took part in the civil war in Tajikistan on the side of the United Tajik Opposition. The field commanders of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan refused to comply with the agreement signed by the Tajik government and the opposition, and in 1999, they invaded the southern districts of Kyrgyzstan. Many militants took part in the fight against NATO forces, Khodzhiev died during the bombing. In May, 2001 was reorganized into the Islamic Party of Turkestan (Hezb and Islomi Turkeston). After leaving the Afghan territory, the armed formations of the Islamic movement, under the authority of Tahir Yuldashev, settled in the Pakistani provinces of North and South Waziristan, where they took part in the struggle against the armed forces of Pakistan on the side of the Taliban. In December 2002, the militants of the party organized a terrorist attack in Bishkek, and in May 2003 of the year - in Osh. The activities of the Islamic Party were supported, directed and funded by foreign Islamic religious organizations, which are aimed at creating a network of radical religious organizations in Uzbekistan and the former Soviet republics. The party's program includes the task of creating the “Great Caliphate”, which should include the territories of Central Asia, the Caucasus and the Volga regions of the Russian Federation. The Islamic Party of Turkestan is engaged in recruiting and military training, agents are then sent to the regions of their activity, promoting their ideas. By the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of February 14 of 2003, the Islamic Party of Turkestan was recognized as terrorist and its activities were banned in Russia.

War of civilizations


The threat of the collapse of Russia. On May 14, the working group of the National Strategy Institute prepared a report entitled “Map of Ethnoreligious Threats: the North Caucasus and the Volga Region”. President of the National Strategy Institute Mikhail Remizov, presenting a report at a press conference in Interfax, said that migrants in the Russian Federation are the social base for spreading the ideas of radical Islam. Illegal migrants are hostile to Russian society. According to Remizov: "This is an excellent environment for the spread of fascist ideology on a religious basis." The Russian authorities have already begun to recognize this problem, but the measures taken are absolutely not enough to resolve this issue. The expert proposed to stop the practice of patronage of Islamism at the top, radically change the migration policy and ensure the cessation of discrimination of Russians in the national republics of the Russian Federation. Urgent measures are needed to strengthen the ethnic core of Russia - the Russians.

Co-author of the report, head of the Privolzhsky Center for Regional and Ethnic-Religious Studies of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies Rais Suleymanov concluded that Radical Islam is spreading rapidly in the Volga region, where a very dangerous situation develops, similar to the one that was in the North Caucasus region in the 1990s. And in the Volga region negative processes develop faster. Next in line is Siberia, where the centers of radical Islam have already appeared.

He noted that after the collapse of the USSR, a "religious revival" occurred in the Volga region, to which foreign religious centers had a hand. Turkish and Arab missionaries began to penetrate into the region, Volga youth were given the opportunity to study in the Arab states, after which they occupied posts in the system of Muslim spiritual rule. This led to the wide spread of Wahhabism in Russia. By 2010, businessmen and officials appeared among the supporters of Wahhabism, bureaucracy, business and Wahhabi clergy merged. In the Republic of Tatarstan for the first time local militants appeared. Russia was stunned by the phrase: “a counter-terrorist operation is underway in Kazan”.

Another author of the report, historian Andrei Yepifantsev, speaking about the situation in the North Caucasus region, noted that in 1990-ies, under conditions of a power vacuum in the North Caucasus, the population self-organized along religious or ethnic lines, that is, there was a rollback into the past, the archaization of a vast area Russia. As a result, at present a significant part of the inhabitants of the region do not feel themselves to be citizens of Russia. And the main role in this is played not by an external factor, but by an internal one.

The report provided a map of the spread of Wahhabism in the Russian Federation by region. The “most Wahhabised” regions are one-third of the Federation from the North Caucasus and Karelia to Yakutia and Primorye. In varying degrees, the virus of radical Islam struck almost all the subjects of the Russian Federation, except for Chukotka. From Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism penetrated into the North Caucasus, and from there throughout Russia. At the end of 1990, the beginning of 2000, when the government began to show some resistance to the destruction of Russian statehood, radical Islam changed tactics somewhat - it was divided into underground structures and legal, “educational” movements. The legal wing outwardly distanced itself from the underground, taking on the role of “soft influence”, information penetration, recruitment of new members, penetration into state structures. Wahhabis plan to establish themselves as a legal party, with the gradual interception of traditional Muslims, to gain positions in power (including the Ministry of Internal Affairs), starting from the regional level (as is happening in Dagestan). The quality of the already visible future is the adjustment of Russian legislation, in the direction of greater freedom, autonomy of the regions in the sphere of religion, local laws (life according to Sharia), etc.

Radical Islamist underground in Tatarstan. In mid-May, the Supreme Court of the Republic of Tatarstan granted the petition of the prosecutor of the republic to liquidate the Al-Ikhlas parish. In this parish, the prosecutor’s check revealed signs of extremist activity, which included the incitement of religious hatred, propaganda of exclusivity, superiority of a person on the basis of his religious affiliation, storage of extremist materials for their mass distribution, etc. In particular, materials from the international terrorist organization Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami ". In addition, the prosecutor's office recognized the identity of the symbolism of the Islamists, who carried out their actions in Tatarstan in 2012, the symbolism used by members of the international terrorist organization Hizb ut-Tahrir al Islami.

Novosibirsk imams received suspended sentences. On May 27, the court sentenced two Novosibirsk imams, Ilkhom Merazhov and Kamil Odilov, to one year’s imprisonment for the propaganda of the ideas of the Turkish philosopher Said Nursi. The criminal case was opened in 2011 year. The Imam of the Spiritual Administration of the Muslims of the Asian part of Russia Ilkhom Merazhov and Imam Kamil Odilov were accused of propaganda of S. Nursi and that they were representatives of the Nurdzhular movement founded by him. Several works of Nursi were recognized as extremist, and the activities of "Nurcular" in the Russian Federation were banned from 2008 year. Both imams came under the 282 article. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, members of the religious organization “Nurdzhular” have intensified their activities in the region since May 2008, and it continued through the 2011 year. The organization’s activists disseminated extremist religious literature, promoted radical ideas and recruited new members of the organization using conspiracy methods.

The FSB has discovered a new channel for supplying professional spies to the Russian Federation. 30 May, Head of the FSB Counter-Intelligence Analysis and Coordination Analysis Department, Alexander Roshchupkin, said that among the illegal migrants living in the Russian Federation there are people who threaten Russia's national security. This statement was made at the parliamentary hearings in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, where the problems of legal support for countering illegal migration were discussed. According to the deputy head of the FSB, the security service reliably established that "certain forces inside illegal migration are conducting subversive and intelligence activities against Russia, settling under the guise of migrants to carry out subversive terrorist activities." A senior intelligence official said that the FSB was conducting a series of measures to combat such agents. In particular, agents of foreign intelligence services who worked in Russia under the guise of migrants in the North Caucasus were identified.

According to Alexander Roshchupkin, illegal migration is becoming an additional lever to destabilize the situation in Russia. Ethnic enclaves (Chinatowns) are formed in the country, which live according to their traditions and rules. Thus, foreign intelligence services receive a "lever" with which you can rock the situation in the country. Under the guise of a migrant, foreign fighters can enter the Russian Federation who have gained combat experience during the Arab Spring in the Middle East, as well as in camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As Roshchupkin stressed, the special services of foreign countries, various destructive forces and foreign non-governmental movements also contribute to undermining the state structure of the Russian Federation.

The head of the FSB counterintelligence analysis coordination department reported that a whole underground industry already exists in Russia, which exists on the basis of exploiting the labor of illegal migrants. This situation, given that the borders are now transparent, and organized crime takes advantage of gaps in the legislation, carries with it a number of serious threats to the security of Russia. At the same time, Roshchupkin said that the authorities do not have exact data on how many migrants in the country, who actually moved in and left. This is a very serious problem. There is a loss of control over the processes that are taking place in Russia.

The deputy head of the FMS, Anatoly Fomenko, who spoke at the same meeting, said that about 3,3 million people live illegally in the territory of the Russian Federation. They are mainly concentrated in large cities and industrial regions, which increases the threat to the national security of the country if the situation develops according to the scenario of the “Arab spring”. Head of the Main Department for the Protection of Public Order of the Ministry of the Interior Yuri Demidov said that the increase in crimes that were committed in Russia by visitors from other states continues, in 2013, this figure increased by 6%. Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security, Alexander Chekalin, said that last year migrants committed more than 42 thousand crimes in Russia.

Crimean threat. 6 June in the Crimean capital was a crowded rally of supporters of the revival of the Islamic Caliphate. Supporters of the radical organization Hizb ut-Tahrir (it is banned in Russia) held a mass rally dedicated to the 89 anniversary of the destruction of the Caliphate (Islamic theocratic state). In 1924, Mustafa Kamal Ataturk issued a decree on the expulsion of the Caliph, the separation of religion from the state and the creation of a secular state - the Turkish Republic. So the last Caliphate officially ceased to exist. stories - Ottoman. It should be noted that in recent years there has been a tendency to recreate the Caliphate, with both Turks and Arabs taking the role of initiators. Modern Turkey is increasingly recalling the Ottoman Empire, the ideology of Pan-Turkism and neo-Ottomanism is becoming more and more popular, it is promoted by the Turkish political elite.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is not registered in Ukraine, but this does not prevent us from openly promoting its ideas to a number of Muslim communities and organizations. Ukrainian Islamists have already noted actions in support of Syrian insurgents and recruiting young gangs that are fighting against the legitimate government in Syria. Radicals come to establish a rule based on Sharia law in Crimea. The slogans that promulgated the radical Islamists are very eloquent: “We are the one Ummah”, “Muslims are one people”, “One Caliphate is one Ummah”, “We are Muslims, our ideology is Islam, our Constitution is the Koran”. Crimea is gradually turning into a springboard for spreading the ideas of radical Islam in Ukraine and Russia.

The main reasons for the growing threat to national security

- The lack of state ideology and as a result of the work of the state apparatus, the media on the minds of citizens of the country. Russia, at least since 1991, is a “clean board” where it was possible to write anything. The result is already noticeable. Some citizens of the country consider Russia to be “this” country and at the first sign of a serious threat will make legs. Others join the ranks of the builders of the "World Caliphate." Although with due attention of the state - the Russian, Tatar, Bashkir, Dagestan youth would build "Great Russia".

- Almost complete freedom in the sphere of religious, public organizations, the work of the media. West and East have all the opportunities to create an environment from which to recruit activists. As a result, a part of the youth was turned into a corrupted mass, a “marsh” with a complete lack of patriotism (if only a “couch” - to cheer on your favorite team while drinking beer), internal discipline. The other part, while a minority, was able to find itself by participating in various, foreign global projects. We see representatives of the Caucasus, the Volga region and the Crimea fighting in Syria, studying in camps in the territory of Afghanistan and Pakistan, being soldiers of the “Great Caliphate”. And if the state in Russia carried out the tasks assigned to it, they could become servicemen of the Russian army, pilots, seamen, doctors, teachers, engineers, etc.

What to do?

As events of recent years have shown, the state has all the leverage to successfully fight radical Islam, especially underground structures. The arrests of militants, the prohibitions of radical organizations, the prohibition of materials inciting ethnic and religious strife, etc. However, force, prohibitive measures are not enough, they are necessary, but must go hand in hand with the education of Russian citizens. Without the revival of state ideology in Russia, which will unite the overwhelming majority of citizens, it is impossible to defeat this infection. It is impossible to defeat the idea with punitive measures (without the total destruction of its carriers, which is impossible). An idea can be supplanted only by a fairer ideology. The fight against terrorists, gangs, radical organizations, materials with an alien ideology is necessary, but this is the lower level in the hierarchy of governance. And at the top level - ideological, conceptual, in Russia - the emptiness that our geopolitical rivals from the West and the East successfully fill. Russia needs ideology as air, otherwise sooner or later we will be crushed.

Sources:
In Tatarstan, recognized: rallies in Kazan were held under the flags of "Hizb ut-Tahrir" // http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1658763.html
Turkestan Islamic Party // http://ria.ru/spravka/20130606/941803716.html#13707912082144&message=resize&relto=login&action=removeClass&value=registration
Map of ethnoreligious threats. Part of 1 // http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=analysis&div=195
Map of ethnoreligious threats. Part of 2 // http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=analysis&div=196
“We are the united Ummah” // http://svpressa.ru/society/article/69064/
Novosibirsk imams received suspended sentences for Nursi’s propaganda // http://ria.ru/nsk/20130527/939643350.html#13707894661843&message=resize&relto=register&action=addClass&value=registration
Today's Volga region reminds the North Caucasus 90 years: expert // http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1658466.html
Among the migrants there were spies // http://interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=309734
FSB of Russia: Militants neutralized in the Moscow Region were members of the Islamic Party of Turkestan // http://fergana.mobi/news/20667
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  1. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 10 June 2013 08: 15 New
    68
    I myself live in NOVOSIBIRSK and by the nature of my work I have to contact ordinary Tajiks. Uzbeks. As a rule, they are quite friendly people.
    However, nothing is known about the incoming imams and preachers, and what is unclear on their minds.
    All the same, I believe that it is impossible to prevent the accumulation of critical mass in the form of GASTRASTERS and HIRED WORK FORCES from the south because this will someday spill over into the new KOSOVO but already on the territory of RUSSIA.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 10 June 2013 09: 06 New
      18
      Lech from ZATULINKI
      This and that it is unknown! The Orthodox will not go to the mosque and what the parishioners sing in their ears is not clear to the inexperienced. I only notice that among the "Rusaks" there are many who go to this mosque for prayer. It’s not a matter of migrant workers what to do with the seething and the soul of a young lad, aspiring to self-knowledge, that is, ideology! What the article itself says. I just think this is not a simple thing! After all, it’s not just in Russia, for this period of time, that search is going on. All normal people are looking for such a fair world order that would suit all segments of the population. And this is not yet possible. Once again I will give an example of Syria, what was the ideology !? NO!
      And the war came to their native land — almost the whole country with all its religions and faiths came to its defense! From the Orthodox to the Muslim and Armenian! Maybe it’s not only an ideology !?
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 10 June 2013 10: 44 New
        11
        ... the soul of a young lad aspiring to self-knowledge ...

        This is possible only through knowledge! Religion can to form only the moral part of the personality and solely by its purest and loftiest ideals. But where are these ideals now? ...
        And did not religion become a bargaining chip? ...
        PS
        I don’t remember who said: "Faith dies when religion comes."
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 10 June 2013 11: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: Kahlan Amnell
          : "Faith dies when religion comes."

          Apparently so!
          1. yak69
            yak69 10 June 2013 15: 57 New
            13
            "" ... at the highest level - ideological, conceptual, in Russia - the void that our geopolitical rivals from the West and East are successfully filling .... "
            We are already crumpled and pretty much! Every normal citizen understands and sees this, does not understand and does not see only the country's leadership. Or they all just do not care and they hope to dump at a critical moment. I find no other explanation.
            It is obvious to everyone that without a foundation there is no structure. The foundation is ideology-intelligible, simple, fair. I can assume that the upper ones are afraid of just this - a simple and fair ideology. After all, then things will need to be done in accordance with such an ideology. And it will be impossible to hide behind beautiful blah blah about a good life for the people. There is an ideology, there are distinct goals in it, and then it is clear how to go towards them. But there is no ideology, and there is no goal of social development either. Those who know exactly what they want will fill the void.
            As a result, we can get the mass sympathies of the young for radical Islam. And this is understandable, people are tired of lawlessness and arrogant neglect of their rights. A person wants clear, and most importantly fair, rules of life. Even radical Islam offers such rules: respect for elders and love for children, traditional family values, honest work and fair distribution, spiritual guidelines in return for money-grubbing and debauchery.
            As soon as a “strong hand” appears with clear rules of life, a sharp increase in the number of those who are ready to stand under the banner of such a person will immediately begin.
            He spoke and I will say that the current leadership of the country is not able to systematically confront numerous threats until it proclaims a clear ideological doctrine of Russia! Hurray patriots can continue to shout and write laudatory odes to Putin and his entourage, but this will not mitigate those serious dangers looming over our society and statehood.
            When national riots begin in Moscow and the Moscow region, and after them blaze up in the Caucasus, the Volga region and the Urals (the places where there is a rapid concentration of immigrants and admirers of Islam), then Putin’s fans will have another question: “Who should lick now?”.
            For me personally, it is obvious that the measures that are being taken today are not just not enough, they are negligible! All that Putin is credited with is steps, not even yesterday. Today it is necessary to unite society by pursuing a fair social policy (one stool is worth it!), Creating jobs (industrialization 2.0), developing education and science (which are worth Lebanese and Fursen!), Developing medicine (not closing maternity hospitals and giving free blood!), Developing sports (muDko will greatly develop sports), etc. etc.
            I constructively criticize Putin and his pack. Now object to me constructively, fans of the current government, what Putin is doing to prevent the collapse of the state (just don’t need to purchase weapons! Weapons without a citizen are metal).
            1. yak69
              yak69 10 June 2013 16: 11 New
              +7
              And further. I’m even scared to think about what would happen to the creatures, like little snacks, if they try to do something similar in a mosque. I also can not imagine ranting at the official level about the freedom of all kinds of dirty minorities somewhere in a country with even traditional Islam. I can’t imagine how condoms are laid out somewhere at the monument to the national hero in an Islamic country. But all this devilry comes from the filing of our authorities and the disgusting propaganda carried out by the official media with our budget money
              1. Karabu
                Karabu 10 June 2013 19: 35 New
                +6
                yak69 absolutely agree with your thoughts. Yesterday there was an article where one pseudo-expert loudly declared: "They will turn up - they will receive in full!" and cheers patriots and putinoids shouted "cheers!" and congratulated each other.
                I personally don’t understand how to win the big war, when the country itself crumbles, under the weight of unsolved problems. in cases of external aggression, we will automatically receive three new “Chechnya” in the rear, and an army of looters, deserters and bandits seeking to take advantage of the situation. again the question is, who will go to the slaughter and for what? for Gazprom? RAO UES? maybe for Putin? so his policy led to the fact that most young people openly hating their country, and his beloved Caucasians and guest workers were the first to run to rob and shoot in the back under the crazy cries of "Allahu akbar"
                1. Powder donut
                  Powder donut 11 June 2013 10: 57 New
                  -1
                  And I believe that our troops will be able to protect us and I don’t care about the gas industry. My brother graduated from the Penza Artillery School 10 years ago (he left the service due to low pay), if our military schools graduate at least 25% of the total number of such officers (these are very dangerous people), the khan will be the aggressor, we will stop in Beijing, London or any other capital of the globe, if this is the will of our political leadership. My brother and his friends officers (part of the reserve) say to me like this: “I will fight for my home, for my family, for my country” and they say without unnecessary pathos, and so calmly. I am sure that these people are able to raise people to attack, and of course to shoot a coward and a traitor. And about Chechnya, remember how our troops acted in the second company, when they threw off all the nonsense about philanthropy and other romantic nonsense. "Are there fighters in the village? No? Definitely not? Consider if at least one shot is taken in our direction the village will be demolished." This is easy to repeat, and then segregation can be carried out if necessary. You can’t live peacefully; you’ll be destroyed, as they are now acting in the North Caucasus, and notice that Putin respects this approach. The Caucasus has always respected a strong hand and will always be so.
            2. CTEPX
              CTEPX 10 June 2013 17: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: yak69
              He spoke and I will say that the current leadership of the country is not able to systematically confront numerous threats until it proclaims a clear ideological doctrine of Russia!

              Who in Russia can proclaim a “clear ideological doctrine” if the Constitution (Article 13 Clause 2) prohibits this?
              Or a dictator, or a consolidated society)).
              Against the dictator, the Anglo-Saxons made so many bookmarks in laws, treaties, corruption schemes)). They are just waiting for the appearance of an artificial “dictator” in Russia to halve it (preferably equally) and, using the radicals (the Wahhabis among them are the longest-playing ones), plunge it into the abyss of the civil war and divide it without making mistakes of the 20s 20th century, when the murdered Russia was reborn from nothing, from nothingness.
              I have to admit: Putin’s actions are the most correct, and the speed of implementation very much depends on our “grassroots” actions, on the legitimacy of the revival of the dictator (or emperor))).
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 10 June 2013 20: 58 New
                +4
                There is a doctrine. Putin has long formulated it - "to wet the bandits in the toilet." The trouble is that Putin himself is in no hurry to translate this doctrine.
                Those who are looking for sarcasm - he is not here, at least not meant.
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            3. optimist
              optimist 10 June 2013 18: 08 New
              -1
              Quote: yak69
              We are already crumpled and pretty much! Every normal citizen understands and sees this, does not understand and does not see only the country's leadership. Or they all just do not care and they hope to dump at a critical moment. I find no other explanation.

              Quote: yak69
              He spoke and I will say that the current leadership of the country is not able to systematically confront numerous threats until it proclaims a clear ideological doctrine of Russia! Hurray patriots can continue to shout and write laudatory odes to Putin and his entourage, but this will not mitigate those serious dangers looming over our society and statehood.

              "Golden words, -Peter Venediktovich !!!" good
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 10 June 2013 18: 17 New
                +3
                Quote: optimist
                "Golden words, -Peter Venediktovich !!!"

                Ah, what a subtle "Jewish" politician!))
                1. optimist
                  optimist 10 June 2013 20: 04 New
                  +1
                  CTEPX: With a sense of humor you are a little tough, dear ...
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 10 June 2013 20: 39 New
                    +1
                    Quote: optimist
                    EPXu: With humor you are a little tight, dear ...

                    Mutually)).
          2. optimist
            optimist 10 June 2013 18: 06 New
            +4
            No wonder the smart man said: "Religion, opium for the people!" As they say, for which they fought, they ran into it. Our government calmly watched the mosques grow like mushrooms after the rain. And now, damn it, we’ve come to our senses. And their very Allah will not understand which Islam is “correct” and which is “not very” ... Hence the conclusion: to eradicate these hotbeds of banditry to hell. Yes, and tame our priests: they have gained too much money and power for themselves ... am
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: optimist
              Yes, and tame our priests:

              Hold on. Now all the dogs are hanging on you.
        2. barberry62
          barberry62 10 June 2013 12: 01 New
          +1
          In the USSR, religion was almost destroyed and there was faith. In whom? In the bloody Satanist and Lenin Peninsula. A country with this “faith” has not stood a hundred years, and Russia with the Orthodox religion has existed for more than a thousand.
          1. Kahlan amnell
            Kahlan amnell 10 June 2013 13: 49 New
            +4
            In the USSR, religion was almost destroyed and there was faith. In whom? In the bloody Satanist and Lenin Peninsula.

            There was no faith. Only one model of religion has replaced another.
            And besides, there is no Orthodox religion. There is an Orthodox confession Christian religion.
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            1. Nick
              Nick 10 June 2013 19: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: amp
              Yes, Lenin is a thousand times better than your illiterate pedophile Muhamed!

              The statement is unsubstantiated. negative
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 10 June 2013 21: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Nick
                Approval unproven

                Even as evidence. At least in the part that Mohammed Read at least the same Wikipedia. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B8%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82_%

                D0%90%D0%B1%D1%83_%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80
                He married Aisha when she was only 6 years old, and raped her at 9. If this is not pedophilia, then what?
                1. Marek Rozny
                  Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 21: 55 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Nagan
                  He married Aisha when she was only 6 years old, and raped her at 9. If this is not pedophilia, then what?

                  Most Muslim theologians believe that she was somewhere around 15 years old. Nobody knows the exact age of Aisha.
                  Yes, and I’ll just remind you that this is the 7th century AD. What were the sexual customs of the Eastern Slavs (and other peoples) at that time do not know?
                  I also add that in Russian Regions of the Russian Empire under the Romanovs, the minimum age for marriage was 12 years. And this is more than a thousand years after the death of Muhammad.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 10 June 2013 22: 16 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nagan
                  He married Aisha when she was only 6 years old, and raped her at 9. If this is not pedophilia, then what?

                  do not write nonsense and provocation !!
                  This link is written further in your link !!!


                  Muslim sources and studies featured various ages of Aisha. At the same time, Ibn Hisham and some other historians have information that Aisha was among the first people to convert to Islam, which means that at the time of marriage she was 15 years old. [10] In addition, some historians and scholars cite evidence that, before the Prophet, Jubair Ibn Mutim had worn her, and she was over 17 years old. Also, many historical chronicles provide information about the sister of Aisha Asma, who died at the age of 100 in the year 73 of the hijra. This means that she was 27 years old during the Hijra (the relocation of the Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Medina). At the same time, it is known that Aisha was 10 years younger than her. And this, in turn, means that by the time of her marriage to the Prophet Muhammad she was 17 years old.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 11 June 2013 00: 19 New
                    +2
                    “Muslim sources and studies feature Aisha’s different ages. At the same time, Ibn Hisham and some other historians have information that Aisha was among the first people to convert to Islam, which means that she was 15 years old at the time of marriage . [10] In addition, some historians and scholars cite the fact that she was married to the Prophet by Jubeir ibn Mutim and she was over 17. Also, many historical chronicles provide information about the sister of Aisha Asma, who died at the age of 100 years in the age of 73. This means that during the hijra (the relocation of the Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Medina) she was 27 years old. At the same time, Aisha was 10 years younger than she was. And this, in turn, means that by the time of her marriage to the Prophet Muhammad she was 17 years old. "

                    The roof is smoking. Are you taught to think so?
            2. builder
              builder 10 June 2013 19: 11 New
              +2
              Without thinking wrote
              1. sergo0000
                sergo0000 10 June 2013 21: 41 New
                +1
                It is not clear where the moderators are looking. recourse
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 10 June 2013 09: 08 New
      19
      In the depths of Siberian ores, the imams have a place, not in the wild!
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 18: 06 New
        0
        Quote: vadimus
        In the depths of Siberian ores, the imams have a place, not in the wild!

        Those. all priests of the non-title denomination - to prison? Do you need to do this in all countries? I live in Kazakhstan. Where are we going to put Orthodox priests? Non-title religion. To put all priests in Kazakh prisons? I think you cut my ear words. Therefore, a friend is calmer with his pseudo-talented odnoshishami.
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 20 New
          +4
          Quote: Marek Rozny
          Do you need to do this in all countries?

          I completely agree with you. We don’t need to provoke an aggravation of the situation ourselves. Each person is free to believe the way he wants and in what traditions he has been brought up. Radicalism should not be allowed either by Christians or Muslims. Only then will we maintain understanding and peace among ourselves .
          1. poquello
            poquello 11 June 2013 00: 46 New
            +4
            You talk with Jehovah's Witnesses - they will take out your brain. This is radicalism. I believe that all aggressive religious renegades should be brought into one hut and let them beat each other's face there. Allowed major world religions and all, the rest of the term for propaganda.
          2. Dejavu
            Dejavu 11 June 2013 03: 52 New
            +2
            There are no radical Orthodox Christians who cut the throats of infidels. Strange some kind of religion of love.
          3. Egen
            Egen 11 June 2013 08: 19 New
            0
            Quote: Tverichanka
            Everyone is free to believe the way he wants

            then we get anarchy.
            Religions, by definition, cannot exist peacefully, because they have disagreements among themselves, otherwise it would be one religion :) Believing that a person is free, but in any case he will come into conflict with other believers. And here is precisely the task of the state - to breed supporters of religions. Including and to impose some kind of prohibitions, restrictions, I don’t know. Not so, of course, as in the USSR. And if you release all relations to freedom, if the state does not regulate ... IMHO just get radicalism :(
            ... and, in general, at the top George writes about the same.
    3. avt
      avt 10 June 2013 09: 25 New
      12
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      All the same, I believe that it is impossible to prevent the accumulation of critical mass in the form of GASTRASTERS and HIRED WORK FORCES from the south because this will someday spill over into the new KOSOVO but already on the territory of RUSSIA.

      Ah, dear man! Try to explain this to our local bourgeoisie for a penny of those who are ready to strangle them and the power that the princes, who are holding themselves, have felt and spit on their people.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 10 June 2013 10: 24 New
        +7
        Quote: avt
        Try to explain this to our local bourgeoisie for a penny ready to strangle whom they want to strangle and holding power by the princes

        Come on! In any remote village (I travel a lot by type of activity, I drive building materials), where I did not see any “princes”, only Uzbeks work! Talked with one employer. Idle private trader, building an extension. It is difficult to speak with them, they don’t speak Russian in Russian, but they don’t drink, don’t smoke, work from morning to night. Ours do not work like that. Either a smoke break, then lunch, then give me a beer. Yes, and cheaper. These are the realities.
        1. avt
          avt 10 June 2013 10: 43 New
          11
          Quote: Atlon
          Talked with one employer. Idle private trader, building an extension. It is difficult to speak with them, they don’t speak Russian in Russian, but they don’t drink, don’t smoke, work from morning to night. Ours do not work like that. Either a smoke break, then lunch, then give me a beer. Yes, and cheaper. These are the realities.

          Yes, but this is if they work for the first year, he himself observed in dynamics at the cottage and construction site. And as a rule, you need to watch what and how they do it, for them use a power cable to break it - just spit {I had a visit to some acquaintances} or just screw it up. If it wasn’t used, it’s normal and beer from cans is blowing, it’s not very good to smoke, somehow shy, but nasvay - it’s always welcome, from that they work like on power engineers laughing .Yes and cheapness, too, with the time of "sadness" goes away - they quickly learn to count a penny on the coven. Well, whoever is poorer and as it seems to him correctly determined the owner, they can snap off, then the rally should be put in place. So idealize and relax with I do not recommend them at all, especially since the more Soviet sane ones have almost ended.
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 10 June 2013 11: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: avt
            So I do not recommend idealizing and relaxing with them

            Nobody idealizes ... It’s just that ours (I know myself) received the money, and for three days they haven’t been there until they drink it. This is due to unskilled. Those who work from the company, everything is strictly there, but also expensive. And the foreman of them, everything is under control. I'm just about the "helpers" of the handymen. Of course you won’t leave them, but they don’t go anywhere. And ours will either be in the store, then for a beer, or even moonshine will be found, and there are not several of them.
            1. Skiff
              Skiff 10 June 2013 17: 14 New
              +8
              I don’t know where you work and who is your beer, Russian himself, many Russian friends plow so that the Uzbeks did not dream, we have 2-3 children, for these texts you want to be rude.
              1. Atlon
                Atlon 10 June 2013 20: 17 New
                -2
                Quote: Skiff
                for such texts you want to be rude.

                Not worth it ... Question, do you plow where? At private construction sites in villages and cottages? Carefully read my comments? Talk about low skilled labor! Give, bring, dig, dig! There are local loafers in the villages, not many, but there are. come to such work. But ... I earned 1000 r and walks for several days! And Gaster work until you say: That's enough, that's enough, you are no longer needed.
                1. builder
                  builder 10 June 2013 22: 54 New
                  +5
                  I would write how the Uzbeks work, but I'm afraid to get a couple of pages of foul language. Insolent (if not immediately put in place), lazy and not knowing anything (with rare exceptions) comrades. The cheapness of their work is a myth.
                2. Novel
                  Novel 10 June 2013 23: 17 New
                  +3
                  And you did not ask yourself why in the 21st century, the country was the first to conquer space, the mother of the greatest minds, who broke her teeth to the best armies of the world, now only a low-skilled job can offer the vast majority of citizens? Moreover, it is the Russian who understands that they quietly made him a farm laborer. You need to be an inveterate nerd to squeeze juices in your uncle’s dacha, who will compare who is better - the Baltic, Russian, Uzbek, Tajik. The visitors earned and went home, they don't give a shit to Russia, for them it’s an alien world. Russian remains here “he came”, no, he won’t die of hunger if he proves that he wears and digs better than an “uzber”. In general, “Russish Vanka” is trying to think, unlike the visitors, “what’s actually going on?” Where did these “summer residents” and “summer residents” come from in his native land? Moreover, the stories of these “successful people” are often known to hard workers, which is why they don’t bother with such thoughts. For them, the guest worker connoisseurs of beauty "- in the form of country houses on 500-700 m2, feng shui and endless repairs, authorities. 400u.e. a month and you are an idol. I am not against visitors, among them there are not a few thinking people. Nevertheless, under long-term lamentation in the media about the “damned” migrant workers, their number is growing and multiplying — they are everywhere. And at the process is clearly controllable. In the future, the population of the Russian Federation may turn into a bunch of "those who are in the oil and gas topic" and service staff, police officers, military and silent "guest workers".
              2. Naval
                Naval 10 June 2013 23: 14 New
                +1
                Put +, it is a pity that you can not put pieces of 10 pluses. I really liked it.
          2. sanych your division
            sanych your division 10 June 2013 22: 16 New
            0
            yeah !!! flush out. the boss smile
        2. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 10 June 2013 10: 54 New
          +8
          Quote: Atlon
          These are the realities.

          With the "realities", die soon. As I.
          All Black Hours - OUT !!!
          That should be the slogan. Do not "want" - we get that in Geyrop.
          Criminal reports, look-listen ... Or, without indicating nationality laughing , or - ch.r.e. am (what's the difference - ALIENS !!!).
          From the government - only snot. But Putin is tolerant ...

          "SSA in the eyes - all God's dew ..."

          The foundations of statehood are undermining ... And we all (all) are seizing ... "Five tanks, two boats, such as a" boat ", two aircraft ... And, dreams - send to MARS" ...

          BASES, the foundation is crumbling ... successfully ...
        3. andrejwz
          andrejwz 10 June 2013 11: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Atlon
          Talked with one employer.
          .
          Quote: Atlon
          Ours do not work like that. Either a smoke break or a lunch give me some beer.

          And he doesn’t unfasten the cops “for beer”? Or does beer mean salary, tax and social benefits appropriate to work? he, your employer, together with the leadership of the LRO and the Department of Internal Affairs of this region.
          It is foolish to think that stories on TV about the fight against illegal migration are indeed a fight against illegal migration. There is a request from society, there are requirements of the authorities in the form of indicators of the work of the MRO and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, well, on the ground, they decide this way: which of the business is pushy, then as they say: "Then we will go to you!" And only therefore it is easier to solve the problem by introducing a visa regime.
        4. Egen
          Egen 10 June 2013 12: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Atlon
          In any remote village (I travel a lot by type of activity, I drive building materials), where I did not see any “princes”, only Uzbeks work!

          At our factory, 2 brigades were hired to lay high walls of workshops with 2 bricks. Russian and Chinese. Paid for the final result - i.e. behind the wall, the same. The Chinese lived at the factory and did the same job exactly twice as fast as the Russians.
          1. Novel
            Novel 11 June 2013 00: 19 New
            0
            Who are ours? Chinese or Russian, or who will build it cheaper?
        5. Corsair
          Corsair 10 June 2013 12: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: Atlon
          Ours do not work like that. Either a smoke break, then lunch, then give me a beer. Yes, and cheaper. These are the realities.

          Yes, you need to start with YOURSELF ...
          1. воронов
            воронов 10 June 2013 15: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: Corsair
            Quote: Atlon
            Ours do not work like that. Either a smoke break, then lunch, then give me a beer. Yes, and cheaper. These are the realities.

            Yes, you need to start with YOURSELF ...

            These are your stories that the Russians need to "start with YOURSELF" (and you just had them in mind), we have been hearing for a long time. The Russians are only doing what they begin with themselves, and the revolution, and perestroika, and democracy. And you had to start the day before yesterday and with them.
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            Yes, you need to start with YOURSELF ..

            Golden words! It’s only much easier to find the guilty - Putin, Gaster, Wahhabi, no ideology, etc. .... But what I tell you, you see from the comments ...
        6. Egor.nic
          Egor.nic 10 June 2013 12: 55 New
          +5
          Almost never, Asians in their entire mass, with rare exceptions, did not work and will not work. Of the activities that they perform as hired workers, the quality is zero - money wasted. Over time, everything will have to be redone if it does not fall apart.
          The main approach of people from Asia and the Caucasus is to brazenly get under the covers, and then the situation changes - crime, drugs, prostitution, these are their main sources of income, and after that - bribery and control of the authorities.
          1. воронов
            воронов 10 June 2013 15: 02 New
            0
            Totally agree with you
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Egor.nic
            a new approach for people from Asia and the Caucasus -

            Because it’s honorable for men to only fight and trade. And work, no. Look where the highest unemployment rate in our country is Dagestan, Ingushetia, etc. And what is their standard of living? In any case, not lower than across the country as a whole. The question is, where did the firewood come from? I am sure that you know the answer.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 10 June 2013 21: 37 New
              +2
              Quote: Tverichanka
              Because it’s honorable for men to only fight and trade. And work, no

              Nonsense !!
              Quote: Tverichanka
              . Look where the highest unemployment rate in our country is Dagestan, Ingushetia, etc.

              so no work forced to trade and seek a way out!
          3. Naval
            Naval 10 June 2013 23: 29 New
            +2
            In Soviet times, I was a cadet of a military school and was taken to a hospital, where they automatically appointed me as the foreman. There were 8 people in the ward and one of them was an ordinary construction battalion Sadykov from Tajikistan. I practically didn’t speak Russian, but before that it was trouble-free. that they were pushed around by all and sundry, but his hands struck me, the old man’s hands and his gaze, looking at the fatalist ... 30 years have passed, but I still remember his name and himself. In any nation there are scum, and if we do not respect ourselves, then we will not force others to respect ourselves.
        7. Normal
          Normal 10 June 2013 15: 15 New
          +6
          These are the realities

          These are not realities, but a superficial look and illusions.
          "You would not chase, pop, for cheapness"
          When they want to pay less, then they recruit the first drunkards and lazy people who come to hand. And what? Everyone “knows how”, they undertake everything, they are always free and not expensive. When these unfortunate workers, having received an advance, go into a binge, the fussy employer accuses all the Russians of sloppiness and hires Gaster.
          A good worker doesn’t sit in the dump and doesn’t wander around the villages in search of work.
          It is always the turn for a good specialist, even if it is just a mason, a stove maker, a carpenter or a carpenter.
          Now everyone is obsessed with success. Success means to be in time. There is no time to wait until the Russian special is free, we recruit Tajiks. It seems at first glance justified, but in the long term a complete defeat. Having received work and the opportunity to gain a foothold, the guest worker will not dig the earth forever. First, we were driven out of construction sites, already being driven out of the service sector, then from clerks, police and petty officials, then everywhere.
          Let Khmelnitsky "Athlone" think that Gaster does not know how to build building materials .... let .....
          1. builder
            builder 10 June 2013 23: 00 New
            +1
            I agree with Comrade Normal "+"
        8. CTEPX
          CTEPX 10 June 2013 18: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Atlon
          do not drink, do not smoke, work from morning to night. Ours do not work like that.

          Maybe ours don’t know how to be slaves?)). When is it impossible to work (create and receive honestly) in one’s own country, for one’s family, for one’s Fatherland? Everything is like a break, nothing comes back.
          It is necessary to all together, from above and from below, to clean the Gundos from power)). We all know them. Putin has already hesitated to give signals!)).
          What could be easier? start talking and make the truth)).
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 10 June 2013 21: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: ctepx
            It is necessary to all together, from above and from below, to clean the Gundos from power)). We all know them. Putin has already hesitated to give signals!)).
            What could be easier? start talking and make the truth)).

            One message to the federal assembly is worth it! Yes, at least someone created a non-political social movement, such as a trade union! So no, only on the Internet we shout about rights and a bad president!
      2. sams
        sams 10 June 2013 13: 48 New
        +5
        ... potential “Novorossians” from the South have a passionate desire to move to Russia on a permanent basis. For example, not so long ago, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan recognized that mass migration from their countries more and more clearly takes on the character of a real catastrophe - their peoples are being resettled to whole villages and cities in Russia. All their young people literally live the dream of moving to our country, and for the sake of realizing this dream, they are ready to abandon even their own families and their own wives. Well, those, in turn, are gradually moving to us after their husbands and sons. As a result, countries of migration outcome are gradually dying. After all, there is no one there to work. Well, our country is gradually choking in the surging waves of uncontrolled migration.
        And worst of all, the Russian government is trying to help this mass migration of feral Asia to our country, creating the most favorable conditions for it.

        http://gifakt.ru/archives/index/rossiya-na-otkup-aziatam/#more-18713
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 10 June 2013 18: 15 New
          0
          Quote: sams
          Russian government seeks to help this massive resettlement of feral Asia

          Not the whole government)) Specifically: Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Khloponin ...
      3. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 10 June 2013 14: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: avt
        Ah, dear man! Try to explain this to our local bourgeoisie for a penny of those who are ready to strangle them and the power that the princes, who are holding themselves, have felt and spit on their people.


        A vivid example of this. In our city (regional center) - 95% of the population are Russians. Muslims barely gain 1%, but the governor gave the green light to build a mosque in the city. Obviously, it’s not easy. The whole city is naturally against, collected signatures. Now it is quiet, and the governor refuses to comment on this issue. He feels what they want to do quietly. am
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 10 June 2013 21: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: aviator_IAS
          In our city (regional center) - 95% of the population are Russians. Muslims barely gain 1%

          in our city there is where Christians are and one percent does not gain, but there is a church !!
          Catholics generally 0.01 percent built a large church for them !! What's so scary ???
          1. aviator_IAS
            aviator_IAS 11 June 2013 01: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: Yarbay
            in our city there is where Christians are and one percent does not gain, but there is a church !!
            Catholics generally 0.01 percent built a large church for them !! What's so scary ???


            In your city, Christians with Catholics probably do not shoot in the air from wedding processions? So I don’t need this in my center of Russia. In their villages, let them beat until they turn blue.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 11 June 2013 07: 10 New
              0
              Quote: aviator_IAS
              In your city, Christians with Catholics probably don’t shoot in the air from wedding processions

              the believing person will not shoot in the air and will not dance on the street!
              do not write nonsense!
              And who punishes the fire, and where does the mosque ??
    4. 15030486
      15030486 10 June 2013 12: 06 New
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      I have lived in Uzbekistan for almost 30 years and I know these people very well, you should not think that they are friendly and simple people, this is a mask I assure you.
      1. Egen
        Egen 10 June 2013 12: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: 15030486
        this is a mask I assure you

        in any quiet pool someone will start :)
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        1. atalef
          atalef 11 June 2013 08: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Egor.nic
          Yes brother, that's right, you are right for all 100%.
          These are vile and cunning cattle, in general, ready for anything to achieve the goal. This applies not only to the Uzbeks, it applies to the whole of Churkistan and the Caucasus.

          You are strange people. Among Muslims, the bulk (at least in Israel) are normal people who just want to work and raise children. Of course there are (like everyone) scumbags, etc. But the bulk are absolutely normal people.
          Well, they have a tradition of shooting air on holidays. It's okay, someone is drinking. someone is dancing. someone shoots. If only everyone was alive and well. They shoot the same with us. but only in their villages. if they make weddings in the halls of celebrations - everything is calm and civil.
          There are not a few Israelis, and in none of them you will see in the comments either hatred of Muslims or anything like that. We clearly distinguish between believers and extremists. And under one comb does not need all revenge.
          The majority of Muslims have exactly the same desires. like any other children. family . happy, calm life.
      3. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: 15030486
        ordinary people is a mask I assure you

        That's right. They are cute and friendly, only one at a time. And as soon as a bunch gathered, where did something happen? They become arrogant, aggressive and very cruel.
    5. Sour
      Sour 10 June 2013 13: 00 New
      +6
      They look friendly because they can hide their hatred.
      Do not have illusions. They even hate us without imams, just for that they hate that we are different from them. And they don’t need any “newcomers”. Even without imams, they are ready to kill us all together with our families.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Sour
        without imams, they are ready to kill us all

        If we are weak, then yes! If we are fragmented, yes again! If we do not fight back, yes too! So we should not be shy to show strength, hold on to each other and support each other. As in Kondopoga, Sagra ... We could!
    6. Komodo
      Komodo 10 June 2013 16: 36 New
      +5
      Jewish oligarchs are robbing, Central Asians are taking jobs, the Balts are openly mocking, Ukrainians are giving us brains ..., Caucasians are shooting.
      Something is wrong with our nation. Not only that, we want
      combine them all.
      Well, we don’t have masochism.
    7. воронов
      воронов 10 June 2013 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      I myself live in NOVOSIBIRSK and by the nature of my work I have to contact ordinary Tajiks. Uzbeks. As a rule, they are quite friendly people.
      However, nothing is known about the incoming imams and preachers, and what is unclear on their minds.
      All the same, I believe that it is impossible to prevent the accumulation of critical mass in the form of GASTRASTERS and HIRED WORK FORCES from the south because this will someday spill over into the new KOSOVO but already on the territory of RUSSIA.

      It’s in Novosibirsk they are so far “friendly” laughing
    8. Shade
      Shade 11 June 2013 14: 29 New
      -2
      you Alexey probably didn’t live in Asia, they are all friendly in appearance, they all smile and call you “brother” but they curse you in your heart and, if necessary, “sting”, this is a miniscule - smile in your eyes and keep a knife behind your back
    9. His
      His 11 June 2013 23: 20 New
      0
      All terrorists with Russian passports. Guests from Central Asia come to earn money, they have other plans. Therefore, no visas in the fight against Wahhabism and Russophobia will not help here
  2. Sanyht
    Sanyht 10 June 2013 08: 23 New
    28
    Grandfather Lenin was right: ONE LANGUAGE, ONE IDEA, ALL BROTHERS !!! and now KINDING HAZARDS BETWEEN THE PEOPLES OF OUR COUNTRY IS THE NORM OF LIFE! although for this: you need to isolate the bandits of CATORGO, with hard, useful work, for the benefit of people.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 08: 30 New
      15
      Quote: ......
      Russia has already developed an entire underground industry that exists on the basis of the exploitation of the labor of illegal migrants

      Still, the Deep Drilling Office was more effective than the current FSB,
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 10 June 2013 10: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Still, the Deep Drilling Office was more effective than the current FSB,

        It's not about efficiency, but about political decisions. If we now give the order for repression, with modern means, the FSB will not be an example more effective than the KGB. And the 37th year, it seems a childish prank.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 10: 53 New
          +4
          Quote: Atlon
          If you order repressions now,


          Paul do not comfort yourself with hopes raven crow will not peck out his eyes
        2. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 10 June 2013 11: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: Atlon
          . And the 37th year, it seems a childish prank.


          So what???
          Yes, with two hands - ZA !!!

          And about the "chips" laughing I do not need to "fill" ...
        3. Egen
          Egen 10 June 2013 12: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: Atlon
          It's not about efficiency, but about political decisions


          That's it, then it was then "deep drilling" :)
      2. воронов
        воронов 10 June 2013 15: 05 New
        +2
        Still, the Deep Drilling Office was more effective than the current FSB, [/ quote]
        If it were effective, then the union would not break up
      3. avt
        avt 10 June 2013 15: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Still, the Deep Drilling Office was more effective than the current FSB,

        Quote: voronov
        If it were effective, then the union would not break up

        This time. The KGB was a POLITICAL special service, even their oath was selflessly to serve the cause of the Party, these are two. Well, then draw conclusions if the top of the CPSU disbelieved in the preached ideals and just gotten rid of the dough. So what should the party’s transfer squad do? Correctly ,,, the Chekists gave free rein to scammers, having their own tambourine interest. "How many joint ventures were created in hunchbacked times? Yes, 100%, three. Well, now request Opportunities, especially technical ones, are, of course, a hundred times higher, but somehow Sudoplatov and his comrades were being controlled and not bad at the time.
      4. Yarbay
        Yarbay 10 June 2013 21: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Still, the Deep Drilling Office was more effective than the current FSB,

        Of course it’s more effective, because they worked for an idea, not for money !!
    2. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 10 June 2013 13: 23 New
      +3
      at d. Lenin, there were slogans sharply at odds with deeds. I recommend recalling the history - the destruction of the peasantry as a class and as the owner, the result - the destruction of agriculture, which for almost 100 years can not revive. The transformation of the people into a stupid, thoughtless biomass humbly going no matter what rallies. The destruction of all the estates in the state and the creation in return of the mediocre ruling structure - the CPSU failed to keep the country. Anyone who does not agree with the party’s policies was simply destroyed (tens of millions of people). The ideology of Russian popular patriotism, which has a leading role in the Russian state, was destroyed, and in return they got rotten Bolshevik internationalism - the result of the ideological work of the CPSU and its members, are now visible with their own eyes.
      Nothing can raise Russia, like the revival of Russian ideas and Russian patriotism, when all together for each other and for Russia, in any case, to the end, when Russian spirituality will overthrow the vile Jewish-Asian mercantile spirit (based on the principles of stealing, reselling, to appropriate, to spoil one's neighbor, to subordinate others to one’s will and make them degrade).
      Only we ourselves can stop this spiritual degradation imposed on us from the outside. But to do this, stop now and think about what will happen to us, what will happen after us, who will be after us and who will replace us, and how to fix it?! ...
      Putin alone will not pull it; he needs a team of "fighters" in the person of the whole people, who will restore order in his house, and the president in the country.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Egor.nic
        There will be order in his home, and the president in the country.

        Neither reduce nor add. Everything is correct. I join.
  3. Dejavu
    Dejavu 10 June 2013 08: 28 New
    11
    Ehhh ideology, ideology ... where can I get it in the era of total buy-sell. The only ideology that we can guide today is "Only Russians can save this world." There is always something to save from and whom to save. But somehow it turned out that the Russians are really like firefighters. We’ll extinguish Napoleon, then Hitler ..., now there’s a geyropa with a pin * dos in turn. We remained almost the only moral stronghold, although each in particular is far from ideal of us. However, until we start to marry homosexuals, I will believe in it.
    1. Egen
      Egen 10 June 2013 12: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: dejavu
      Ehhh ideology, ideology ... "Only Russians can save this world."

      Quote: dejavu
      However, until we start to marry homosexuals, I will believe in it.

      Gregory, join in! hi
      ... but unfortunately, this is NOT the ideology of the state :(
      Quote: dejavu
      There is always something to save from and whom to save.

      But this is IMHO just the main thing! Without the reinforcement of goals, ideology itself is not very ... Remember 1940, in England there was no single policy towards Germany, confusion and vacillation both among the prime ministers and in general among the people. And as soon as the raids began, the British were told - Atu Germans! - and they all rallied in the face of danger. Well, etc. examples, and fascism was also based on the propaganda goal of reviving the greatness of the nation.
      Unfortunately, I don’t remember something without a hint of examples of “calm” rallying of the people, “without bombing” :(
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 10 June 2013 12: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: dejavu
      We’ll extinguish Napoleon, then Hitler ..., now there’s a geyropa with a pin * dos in turn.

      In the 19th century, French was taught in Russia, as a result, the Russian Army took a walk to Paris ...
      In the 20th century, Russians learned German, the result is a red banner over the Reistag ...
      Now is the 21st century, Russians are learning English, what's next?
      1. family
        family tree 10 June 2013 18: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Atlon
        Now is the 21st century, Russians are learning English, what's next?

        "We will take the Embassy!" (C) fellow
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 21: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Atlon
        to, Russians learn English, what's next?

        We will force the English Channel!
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2013 21: 45 New
      0
      Quote: dejavu
      We’ll extinguish Napoleon, then Hitler ..., now here’s a geyropa with a pin * dos in turn

      The article seems to talk about the threat of Russia (I’ll add from myself - and not just Russia) from the Islamists, and again you have a geyropa with a pin * dos, to blame. You still forgot to spin the Zionists for completeness.
      It is necessary to sober up at least occasionally.
  4. denisey
    denisey 10 June 2013 08: 31 New
    30
    I myself live in Sergiev Posad and I have never seen such an influx of Muslims in one of the centers of Orthodoxy! Continuing to inertly perceive the situation with migrants, sooner or later we will come to the situation that arose in Germany and France. Tolerance can destroy a country.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 08: 38 New
      10
      Quote: denisey
      sooner or later we will come to the situation that arose in Germany and France.


      Say it to our rulers

      10/06/2013 Moscow needs an additional influx of labor. This was stated by Sergei Sobyanin. "The surplus of jobs is about 3 million people."






      1. denisey
        denisey 10 June 2013 08: 44 New
        +6
        Quote: Vadivak

        Say it to our rulers

        10/06/2013 Moscow needs an additional influx of labor. This was stated by Sergei Sobyanin. "The surplus of jobs is about 3 million people
        Having such a resource as Military Review, it’s time to no longer shake the air, but to go out with your initiatives to the government!
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 June 2013 08: 54 New
          +7
          Quote: denisey
          go out with your initiatives to the government!


          I personally do not have money to go out with initiatives


          and I don’t understand your discontent, look even in the State Duma of the Russian Empire of the 1st convocation there were 10 artisans, 17 factory workers, 14 rural teachers, and what now? Advertising MTS?

          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 10 June 2013 09: 34 New
            +4
            We have Vadim there athletes and a TV star uneducated enough. hi
            Still, the state should be managed by professionals, my opinion.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 10: 18 New
              +4
              Quote: sergo0000
              We Vadim there athletes and a TV star uneducated


              Unfortunately, not everyone sees this, who really represents the interests of the working class
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 22: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Sobyanin. "The surplus of jobs is about 3 million people."

        And then what didn’t they continue? And then he said that we do not need low-skilled labor, as well as people who do not speak Russian, do not respect our culture and have a different mentality with the main population of the country. So do not distort it. Even if you personally don’t like Sobyanin. Let us be JUST! After all, it’s all as if for justice. It does not happen without honesty in principle.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 10 June 2013 09: 01 New
      +6
      All the nearest Moscow region is filled with migrant workers. Rumor has it that there are entire illegal villages. In particular, not far from the city of Mytishchi. But another thing is interesting - four years ago there were almost no gastras in the Moscow Region (I judge the situation by Pushkino / Zhelezka), but Luzhkov had an idea to evict all the gastros outside the Moscow Ring Road and bring them to work every day, if necessary.
      1. sams
        sams 10 June 2013 14: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: zvereok
        four years ago there were almost no gastras in the suburbs

        And 6 years ago, there were few of them in Moscow. And those that were not protruding from the objects or moved in dashes, hiding from the police patrol.
        In St. Petersburg, the situation is even worse.
        1. bear
          bear 10 June 2013 22: 58 New
          +3
          a little bit more and we’ll run in dashes ourselves belay
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 11 June 2013 00: 03 New
          0
          Quote: sams
          And 6 years ago, there were few of them in Moscow. And those that were not protruding from the objects or moved in dashes, hiding from the police patrol.
          In St. Petersburg, the situation is even worse.


          The problem appeared much earlier - about six to ten years ago, Luzhkov turned the registration mulberry when the police began to press visitors. Visitors lurked, and then began to pay the police. But they were especially afraid of impudence. Then something happened ... And the police stopped finding fault with registration (at that time, she also stopped being police and bribery was transferred from the criminal to the civil code). There was still a funny case when a Russian citizen had less rights than a citizen of Belarus ... But these are things of bygone days ... few people remember ...
  5. cartridge
    cartridge 10 June 2013 08: 41 New
    15
    It was necessary to eject migrants from Russia yesterday. Tomorrow will be late!
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 10 June 2013 08: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: cartridge
      It was necessary to eject migrants from Russia yesterday. Tomorrow will be late!

      It is necessary to throw it out. But what to do with their citizens, Muslims, who increasingly profess not traditional Islam, but extremist movements.
      For the past 20 years, power cannot formulate an all-Russian idea that does not unite all nations and religions. It is not an ideology. The ideology of liberals: profit as much as you can, Russian society is alien.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 10 June 2013 12: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: cosmos111
        But what to do with their citizens, Muslims, who increasingly profess not traditional Islam, but extremist movements.

        After the collapse of the USSR, ideology is completely absent in Russia. If in the USSR it was: “Unite the proletarians of all countries!”, In tsarist Russia “For faith, tsar and the fatherland!”, Then in modern Russia there is no ideological implication at all! Someone will say that our “ideology” is: “Enrich yourself at all costs!”, But this will not be true. For ideology, implies a social idea, and enrichment, the idea of ​​a personal plan. So, it’s not sad, but there is no ideology. And without it, a vacuum forms, which fills radicalism. And the ideas of radicalism are always wretched and scary. Though Islamic: “Great Caliphate from sea to sea!”, Even Orthodox: “Russia for Russians!”, Even liberal ones: “Freedom to fagots!”
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    2. Manager
      Manager 10 June 2013 10: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: cartridge
      It was necessary to eject migrants from Russia yesterday. Tomorrow will be late!


      In fact of the matter! That now there are so many of them that it is worth adopting a law against them, as soon as everything breaks out in all cities.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 10 June 2013 11: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: Manager
        In fact of the matter! That now there are so many of them that it is worth adopting a law against them, as soon as everything breaks out in all cities.


        Nothing flares up anywhere. He violated the law by illegally entering the country - you are a criminal.
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 10 June 2013 12: 25 New
          +8
          Quote: zvereok
          having entered the country illegally, you are a criminal.

          To build camps, to Siberia to build roads, dams, etc. I worked a year for food, and earned a return ticket. And 10 years ban on entry.
          1. builder74
            builder74 10 June 2013 22: 10 New
            +1
            Golden words! A simple and effective recipe for combating illegal migration! good
      2. builder
        builder 10 June 2013 23: 05 New
        0
        How it breaks out and extinguishes!
  6. alexdol
    alexdol 10 June 2013 08: 46 New
    +7
    About the invasion of Muslims - much is done here with the direct connivance of the AUTHORITIES! By the way, the same applies to the "geyrop". it’s just for someone to create such hotbeds of tension. And about the “national idea”, until all the “oligarchs” and smaller thieves sit or hang, and the stolen “grandmothers” are not returned to the state, there can be no question of any idea! People see everything and just words alone are not enough! That would start the current government with the same "Serdyukov" and the company, and at the same time the "Mr." Medvedev would be nice to bring to the RESPONSE for his anti-Russian activities, and only after that we could talk about something further. But for now - SILENCE ...
    1. Dejavu
      Dejavu 10 June 2013 09: 00 New
      +4
      I’m afraid that if we would hang and plant all the thieves, starting at least from Peter the Great, then in Russia, Mother already has five million citizens left. Do not transplant and do not outweigh everyone, this is all nonsense. It is necessary to punish exclusively by the ruble, and it’s total that the official went to collect bottles for bread after he got caught. We still do not put anyone in prison, so they scold, scold and let go if the rank is high. But leaving relatives without honestly earned money is a blow. Well, nefig was tyrit from the treasury, now pay all in a crowd. It seems to me more effective and more useful to the state than the hanged carcass of a Tubaretkin on a rope.
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 10 June 2013 18: 55 New
      0
      Quote: alexdol
      About the invasion of Muslims - much is done here with the direct connivance of the AUTHORITIES!

      I agree. It is definitely necessary to cleanse the country from illegal immigrants and clean it harshly, the faster the better. Religious figures, including Islam, struggling with radicalism in Islam, to provide all possible assistance. Those who are already poisoned by Wahhabism and other radical movements in Islam should be isolated from a normal society until they recover. Or until the end of life.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 22: 17 New
        0
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        . Those already poisoned by Wahhabism

        The whole question is who and how will determine whether he is poisoned or not poisoned. But I hope you understand that with the introduction of tough measures no one will confirm their sympathies for Wahhabism? This is fraught with the emergence of a branched and well-disguised underground, which will be fought in many times more difficult. This is a very sensitive issue and very serious. The slightest bias and this can be done so that grandchildren will not be disentangled. But I don’t see simple solutions. Which one does not pretend is a whole bunch of problems. And the solution is a civil war. This if you really seriously consider and solve these problems.
  7. Nitarius
    Nitarius 10 June 2013 08: 51 New
    0
    If the FSB is so late - then it WILL ALREADY BE LATE! Right now, we must respond to Threats- And do not indulge in foolishness!
    You need to move and not engage in garbage! It is not clear what is happening in Russia.
    Then some rallies are still often there. It sits on all such Elements.
    They would at least once go in a crowd for housing and communal services or so that the mortgage and T, P. Reduced, SAME They are not for the crap power.
    Must
  8. valokordin
    valokordin 10 June 2013 08: 51 New
    +7
    We had a communist normal ideology, where there was no place for extremism and all people were equal brothers, but the Judeans broke a beautiful state and break through the rest. Immediately begin the restoration of Soviet power and all who resist this will be exported to America, Saudi Arabia. Armed opposition to the wall. Close the borders, we are talking about the survival of the country no more.
    1. individual
      individual 10 June 2013 10: 23 New
      0
      EVERYTHING RIGHT!
      Yes only where to get the leader Russia capable of all this?
  9. sashka
    sashka 10 June 2013 08: 51 New
    +3
    Well, Pu yesterday signed a decree on the delivery of labor from Mongolia. We will wait for the Arabs and Africans. Here the fun begins. I trudge on these tricks .. What mushrooms do they eat or maybe they got hooked on the spice ..?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 June 2013 08: 57 New
      +6
      Quote: Sasha
      We will wait for the Arabs and Africans. Here the fun begins.


      This is looking for someone - cannibals come in large numbers
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 10 June 2013 08: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Sasha
      Well, Pu just yesterday signed a decree on the delivery of labor from Mongolia

      In my opinion, this is a diversion from the authorities. In relation to the entire Russian people.
      Only the economy, such steps Pu can not be explained.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 09: 08 New
        +6
        Quote: cosmos111
        In my opinion, this is a diversion from the authorities. In relation to the entire Russian people.


        True to Yeltsin’s cause

        DECREE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
        dated December 16, 1993 N 2146
        On the attraction and use of foreign labor in the Russian Federation

        President
        Russian Federation
        B. Yeltsin
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 10 June 2013 10: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadivak
          True to Yeltsin’s cause

          The Yeltsin-Bukhov case is living and developing. In Moscow and the Moscow Region, only 5 ml .. migrants are registered. And how many are not registered? And what is the total number throughout Russia?
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 10 June 2013 20: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: cosmos111
            In Moscow and the Moscow Region, only 5 ml .. migrants are registered

            Do not be ashamed to lie?

            Foreign citizens who work in Moscow were counted by the Federal Migration Service (FMS). Currently, 521 thousand migrant workers can work in the city. However, officially only 231 thousand visitors entered into an employment contract. This was announced by the head of the FMS Department for Moscow Fedor Karpovets.

            According to the data voiced by the representative of the FMS, about 6 thousand highly qualified foreigners work in the city.

            In the first half of the year, FMS employees conducted 70 thousand inspections in Moscow and revealed 83 thousand violations of the legislation in the field of migration. Karpovets said that recently they began to forge documents related to work in Russia more often - the number of such crimes increased by 2,5 times.

            Fedor Karpovets emphasized that firms that are engaged in the "legalization" of labor migrants are actually engaged in fraud.

            It should be recalled that earlier the representatives of the Federal Migration Service stated that a total of 5 million foreign citizens work in Russia: 1 million people legally, and 4 million illegally.
    3. sincman
      sincman 10 June 2013 08: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: Sasha
      Well, Pu yesterday signed a decree on the delivery of labor from Mongolia.

      Please provide links to material so that you can familiarize yourself with the information in more detail.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 June 2013 10: 55 New
        +6
        Quote: sincman
        Please provide links to material so that you can familiarize yourself with the information in more detail.


        Just type in the search engine Putin Mongols and all
        http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1192287/ если не устраивает эта ссылка там много других
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 June 2013 12: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadivak
          Just type in the search engine Putin Mongols and all

          I read and fucked up.
          Why is such a president needed?
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 June 2013 14: 40 New
            +5
            Quote: baltika-18
            I read and fucked up.
            Why is such a president needed?


            To paraphrase Exupery - If you choose him, then someone needs it
          2. Normal
            Normal 10 June 2013 20: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            Why is such a president needed?

            Greetings, Nikolay. Detach from life.
            The president is needed, according to the new monitor star Fedorov, in order to lead the people-liberation movement against the American occupation. This is our president, well, a rebel. Fidel and Chegevara. And he needs the Mongols to form fighting tumens. Already chase adversaries Medvedev and Dvorkovich. And without the Mongols, Svet-Vladimir Vladimirovitsch can’t cope with the liberal hydra laughing
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 10 June 2013 20: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Normal
              Already chase adversaries Medvedev and Dvorkovich.

              Win - drive)).
          3. CTEPX
            CTEPX 10 June 2013 20: 45 New
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            I read and fucked up.

            Here you see)). The first civil war in Russia, initiated by the Anglo-Saxons - the Battle of Kulikovo)).
    4. zvereok
      zvereok 10 June 2013 09: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Sasha
      Well, Pu yesterday signed a decree on the delivery of labor from Mongolia.


      The question is actually with three answers:
      1. Drive all migrant workers with a filthy broom. And power, with political will, is quite capable of doing this.
      2. To maintain growth or prevent a fall in GDP, which is supported by migration as well.
      3. To overcome the decrease in the population of the Russian Federation, at least due to migration. Statistics on migration will not say anything, it will only say that the population of the Russian Federation has increased.

      My opinion is that 2 and 3 answer from the evil one and reminds one of wailing in 2007, that corruption is an innate feature of the Russians, that without corruption in our state all processes will stop. "You will not get wet you will not go."
    5. sergo0000
      sergo0000 10 June 2013 11: 38 New
      +4
      sashka
      The Mongols will not go to jihad. They are Buddhists winked
      And the Africans themselves will not go to us (at least in large numbers) - we have a too nationalistic society, whatever they say about Russian tolerance!
      1. Buran
        Buran 10 June 2013 15: 12 New
        +4
        He worked in the same artel, and we had a Mongol hard worker. So in the afternoon he worked like an ox, in the evening he got drunk and started yelling at the whole beam so that they, the Mongols, would be returned to Baikal in the ass, then he would be cut down and slept until the morning. In the morning we ask how to give Baikal to you, well, let it be on x ... leave it to yourself. In the evening, the concert was repeated.
        Sorry, the theme about the Mongols inspired :)))
      2. Truffoff
        Truffoff 10 June 2013 16: 46 New
        0
        Quote: sergo0000
        The Mongols will not go to jihad. They are Buddhists

        In Eastern Siberia there lives, while still quiet, a force, the only force that Russia could not resist. Buryatia, the same Mongols. Not Buddhists, shamanists.
        What will happen when she explodes is scary to imagine.
        This is absolutely reckless power. But so far, quiet. I wonder where the Mongols will go to work, if only not there. Crap can happen.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 10 June 2013 20: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Truffoff
          Russia could not resist. Buryatia, the same Mongols.

          Digging fine)). Go down two hundred years)).
  10. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 10 June 2013 08: 54 New
    +3
    About these events on the "Military Review" did not seem to be mentioned.
    Read. Briefly: Udomlya, in the Tver Region, 300 kilometers from Moscow, 4 operating power units of the Kalinin Nuclear Power Plant, and uncontrolled guests from the southern republics. And, naturally, a conflict.
    http://ru-politics.livejournal.com/45400889.html
    http://holesika.livejournal.com/903246.html
    http://vit65d.ya.ru/replies.xml?item_no=53010
  11. sincman
    sincman 10 June 2013 08: 55 New
    +3
    The main problem is that anti-state elements are deeply entrenched in power. And you need to fight in several directions at once. More details in the video.

    Who and why riots in Turkey, how they differ from the pogroms in Sweden, why the mayor of Makhachkala Said Amirov was arrested, why Sergei Sobyanin prematurely resigned from the post of mayor of Moscow.

  12. darksoul
    darksoul 10 June 2013 08: 56 New
    +7
    Gaster is not only in Moscow, we didn’t have them in ZhKO in Krasnodar, now we removed all of our own as if on command, and there were a lot of visitors ... they went to the Adler to launch an object in the week ... so the Armenians faded against the background of the Gaster , so many of them
    About
    Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
    I myself live in NOVOSIBIRSK and by the nature of my work I have to contact ordinary Tajiks. Uzbeks. As a rule, they are quite friendly people.


    We are also friendly, but a friend who works at the police station says that in fact, they are constantly reporting on their homelessness, that week only the whole construction site was deported because she killed one girl, cut off the second chest ......

    Conclusion:
    1. while there are people above who are interested in cheap labor and not in quality, they will not go anywhere
    2. Until ours cease to thump without a trace, there will be no sense. It’s disgusting to look at the benches every day, young men and men are thumping healthy already .... find out who respects whom .... what can we talk about?
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 10 June 2013 22: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: darksoul
      . Until ours cease to thrive without a trace, there will be no sense

      You see, it means that we have a problem? Our Russians hire Gaster to work. Our Russians consume vodka instead of working ..... Everything is ambiguous. And there are no simple solutions. Our guest workers are bypassing, although Moscow, we are a little more than a hundred kilometers away. And why? Firstly, there’s a bad reputation among us since the beginning of the 90s (all Caucasians have been blown away from here), secondly, there’s simply no way for us to work for migrants themselves .
  13. denisey
    denisey 10 June 2013 09: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    I personally do not have money to go out with initiatives

    Ray did not write
  14. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 10 June 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    from the Don.
    Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Stavropol .......
    I’ll go sharpen the pitchfork! We are up to the handle.
  15. fenix57
    fenix57 10 June 2013 09: 11 New
    11
    [i] The threat of the collapse of Russia. [/ i] -, Yes, about him about the General: ".. In the Caucasus, Ermolov faced the tragic story of Major Pavel Shvetsov - returning from service from Georgia to Russia, he was kidnapped by Chechens and kept in an earthen pit for more than a year. The bandits demanded 250 thousand rubles (today - more than 10 million dollars), if the mountaineers didn’t receive a ransom, they sold the captives through established channels to the East. The general called the owners of the lands through which the captured major was transported, put them in the Kizlyar fortress and announced that if they didn’t find them in 10 days funds for the release of Shvetsov, all 18 people will be hanged on the fortress bastion. Immediately the amount of the ransom decreased from 250 thousand to 10 thousand rubles. One of the Dagestan khans paid the money, the major was freed ... "
    ... ",

    Comments ... they are not! There is a HISTORY! I beg:
    Notes by Alexei Petrovich Ermolov during the reign of Georgia

    "[i] Chechens, the worst of the robbers who attack the line, live downstream the Terek. Their society is very sparsely populated, but it has grown tremendously in the past few years, because it was the friendly villains of all other nations who left their land for any crime. Here they found accomplices, immediately ready either to avenge them or to participate in robberies, and they served them as faithful guides in lands they did not know themselves. Chechnya can rightly be called the nest of all the robbers. "

    Hence, the STRENGTHENING OF THE STATE DOMESTIC POLICY IS ATTITUDE ... UNDER THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT, THIS IS.

    1. omsbon
      omsbon 10 June 2013 09: 57 New
      +1
      It’s a pity that the authorities lack Ermolov’s will and determination. And who needs a limp government?
      1. Ljubomir
        Ljubomir 10 June 2013 10: 13 New
        +5
        Quote: omsbon
        And who needs a limp government?

        Western oligarchic elites. crying
  16. Boris55
    Boris55 10 June 2013 09: 19 New
    +3
    The question of changing the US-Yeltsin constitution (art. 13 n. 2 - no ideology can be established as state or mandatory) has long been ripe. The President, as her guarantor, cannot do this.
    Public organizations are silent. Fedorov, Starikov tried to gather people on the square - it did not work. So she suits everyone? Unlikely.
    Again, all hope for a good gentleman.
    But will we just wait ...
  17. Regis
    Regis 10 June 2013 09: 47 New
    +7
    of Russia
    ideology is needed like air, otherwise
    sooner or later they will crush us. - Absolutely true statement, for all 100%. It makes sense to drive out Gaster, if other Gaster will come to an empty place anyway? A set of measures is needed, and most importantly, one great idea is needed for one great country.
  18. goody
    goody 10 June 2013 09: 53 New
    +2
    “On May 14, a working group of the Institute of National Strategy prepared a report“ Map of Ethno-Religious Threats: the North Caucasus and the Volga Region ”in Interfax“ - the first step in the beginning of solving the problem is to declare it. I hope that the next steps will follow.
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  20. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 10 June 2013 10: 10 New
    -1
    Muslim states do not need a constitution, the QURAN itself is a constitution, and Christian states have a BIBLE. but they also have a constitution, which has drawbacks where loopholes and evasion of the law can be found, and the villains and bandits who generate terrorism and war always use power. if in terms of cleanliness and honesty, then the laws of KARAN are observed by 80% of Muslims and the laws of the BIBLE are observed by 20% of Christians, the rest pretend that they are, and this is true! In a democratic society there is a big flaw, it is all permissiveness and impunity, so to speak, a lot of rights and irresponsibility. Putin is right and wrong, but more right in our modern world, if he loses, Russia will collapse as the USSR, and this will adversely affect all Russian republics, as well as in Ukraine, if Yanukovych loses then pro-Western puppets, nationalists will come to power and swindlers, and Ukraine will split into several parts and the same Crimea will become terror-Muslim, but Russia will not let this happen, there will be a second Chechnya or the Syrian version. Everything can happen much faster than we think. Karan for Islam is a law, but in the hands of bandits and terrorists who interpret it in their own way - it is a terrible weapon that makes Muslims unfaithful and enemies for Muslims of Christianity, leaders of Christianity have made basmachis of Muslims. spirits and terrorists who cut off their heads and strip skin. But the whole trouble is that those in power have those who have bandits and others have suffered for centuries. And I personally do not see a way out of this, to see this is the karma of our planet, and warriors and epidemics are just licking the balance and purification, awareness, teaching and development of mankind.
    1. Abakanets
      Abakanets 10 June 2013 13: 29 New
      0
      Crimea will never become Muslim.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 10 June 2013 21: 16 New
        +2
        It will become. If Ukraine does not become part of Russia)).
  21. Ljubomir
    Ljubomir 10 June 2013 10: 11 New
    +1
    Two weeks earlier, on the evening of May 20, the FSB of Russia destroyed a group of terrorists in Orekhovo-Zuevo who were preparing a major terrorist attack in the Russian capital.

    It is strange that they did not settle in Tatar musul. district (New building) or in the prison (Cool) (where thousands of Vietnamese and Uzbeks), and in the city center.
  22. individual
    individual 10 June 2013 10: 14 New
    +6
    The global confrontation of civilizations in extremist offensive Islam conquered European countries.
    Subjugated their will.
    European tolerance contributes to the decay of Christian morality.
    Since nature does not tolerate emptiness, this vacuum is filled by the Islamic adat (way of life), Sharia (Law).
    Russia again has to fulfill the mission of protecting Christian values ​​and again protect not only itself, but also Europe from barbarians.
    Look at them emblem.
    Islamists plan to place the banner all over the planet Earth.
    The task of Russia to stop fascist Islam.
    .
    1. Black
      Black 10 June 2013 14: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: individ
      Since nature does not tolerate emptiness, this vacuum is filled by the Islamic adat (way of life), Sharia (Law).
      Russia again has to fulfill the mission of protecting Christian values ​​and again protect not only itself, but also Europe from barbarians.


      All is correct. When the bones of the Russian Orthodox Church begin to "wash the bones" on this site, I always want to say to these "God-worshipers" - by renouncing Orthodoxy, you will wash the feet of Islam.
      No need to search and invent any other ideology, it exists, and it is thousands of years old! We absorb the moral values ​​preached by Orthodoxy with mother’s milk and should not be betrayed.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2013 22: 03 New
      -3
      Quote: individ
      The task of Russia to stop fascist Islam.

      And where did you see Islam is not fascist?
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2013 22: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: individ
      The task of Russia to stop fascist Islam.

      And where did you see Islam is not fascist?
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 22: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Nagan
        And where did you see Islam is not fascist?

        Welcome to Kazakhstan.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 10 June 2013 22: 56 New
          0
          Give me time. Once upon a time, it seemed that Islam was moderate in Turkey, at least that Ataturk had tempered it. Erdogan proved the opposite.
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 11 June 2013 20: 59 New
            0
            Turks are radical religious fanatics? Erdogan is a fanatic? Are you familiar with Turkish realities?
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  23. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 10 June 2013 10: 17 New
    +4
    The Cossacks should be revived as an internal force of deterrence. Muslims always lived on the territory of Russia, but there was always strength (the Cossacks, who supposedly oppose them in an organized manner, therefore lived in peace.
    1. Gato
      Gato 10 June 2013 13: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      Revive the Cossacks

      It would be very cool, but how?
      In the Russian Empire, the Cossacks were a special MILITARY class, with its duties and benefits, a special worldview, its territory and self-government.
      Can you imagine something like this in modern Russia? And there are not enough Cossacks for all of Russia. Unfortunately.
    2. Sour
      Sour 10 June 2013 14: 08 New
      +3
      The Cossacks were heterogeneous in national, and religious terms. Among the Cossacks of Tersky, Astrakhan, Ural and Siberian troops were Muslims. Among the Don and Transbaikal Cossacks were Buddhists. In almost all Cossack troops there were Old Believers. The national composition is even more interesting. Among the Cossacks at the beginning of the 20th century there were 16 nationalities.
      And to revive the Cossacks as they were means to revive the division of society into estates. And this is the Middle Ages, and nothing else.
    3. Black
      Black 10 June 2013 14: 56 New
      0
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      The Cossacks should be revived as an internal force of deterrence.

      When they talked, when together with the stripes they deprived the Cossacks of faith, land, will, what were they thinking about? And where is my people now ?, I’ll tell you, there’s almost none!
      And it is impossible to recreate former glory and power.
  24. Manager
    Manager 10 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +5
    Brothers! Tell me at least one region of Russia where there are few or none at all! I really want to go there with my family! Here’s a word of ches, even though the Sterling go to the woods and there, enclose yourself from everyone! So much evil and blackness I can not stand already!
    1. Gato
      Gato 10 June 2013 13: 43 New
      +2
      Franz Josef Land. But you may not like it there. laughing
    2. Black
      Black 10 June 2013 15: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: Manager
      Brothers! Tell me at least one region of Russia where there are few or none at all! I really want to go there with my family! Here’s a word of ches, even though the Sterling go to the woods and there, enclose yourself from everyone! So much evil and blackness I can not stand already!

      I will name it. Kalmyks courageously in the 90s opposed the Chechen lawlessness with force and will! And they defended their land.
      Volgograd region. our question is not yet so acute. In any case, on the Cossack lands the black banner does not curl.
  25. iulai
    iulai 10 June 2013 10: 21 New
    15
    I myself am a Bashkir and live in Bashkiria. Until recently, old people and old women went to the mosque. Like on Friday I was waiting for my wife from the store, next to the mosque, so the people fell in a mosque. And who are these people? Mostly guest workers, they are almost invisible during the day, but on Friday you find them, it turns out to be full of them! And from the locals also, old people and old women. Radical Islam are immigrants from the southern republics! The government needs to choose, or go about business, which needs cheap labor force, or think about the future of Russia and its citizens. Measures should be overwhelming when it comes to the future of the country. Thank God that Putin is at the helm of the country, and not dol ... fuck Medvedev!
    1. Ljubomir
      Ljubomir 10 June 2013 10: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: iulai
      Thank God that Putin is at the helm of the country, and not dol ... fuck Medvedev!

      Ah, if B. I do not remember that he abandoned liberal ideas.
    2. AntonR7
      AntonR7 10 June 2013 21: 25 New
      +2
      And that Medvedev was the president and you believe that he was independent, he was a puppet of Putin and did everything he did with the filing of his patron, otherwise Putin would not leave him as prime minister.
  26. Igor39
    Igor39 10 June 2013 10: 25 New
    +5
    Islam is a threat to Russia No. 1, no matter what.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 June 2013 10: 44 New
      +6
      Scapegoats are made of Islam.



      The ancient Egyptian priesthood perverted a single faith, gave a false doctrine of peace to every nation (Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism), having previously laid down inappropriate contradictions within these teachings and adapted all this for its own mercenary goals - divide, bleed, conquer and fat, drink, be rich. ..

      In paganism, they respected all patrons of crafts, respected any work, and therefore there was no intolerance towards each other. It is foolish to despise the farmer for raising bread or a cattle breeder, for raising cattle ... But it is no longer stupid to fight Christians (the tiller) with Muslims (cattle breeders).

      Between paganism and Christianity there was a transition period. In the West, these are Greek gods, still pagan in appearance but already inwardly Christian ...
      In Russia, Nikon’s reforms in the 16 century completed bisexuality and Christianity was finally adopted. So the transition period to Russi was completed.

      It is necessary to fight with the cause and not with the consequences of it ...
      1. Gato
        Gato 10 June 2013 11: 40 New
        -1
        Ancient Egyptian priesthood perverted a single faith, gave a false doctrine of peace to every nation (Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism)


        Greek gods, still pagan in appearance but already inwardly Christian


        Under the table! Boris55, you have weed, do not share? fellow
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 June 2013 12: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: Gato
          Greek gods, still pagan in appearance but already inwardly Christian

          Under the table! Boris55, you have weed, do not share?

          In Latin, Jesus, “Jesus,” Zeus, “Zeus," is consonant, isn’t it, they just changed the letters in places. The symbol of both was the sun. Not so wrong, Boris.
          1. Gato
            Gato 10 June 2013 13: 21 New
            +5
            Nikolay, I’m not a big specialist in theology, but the early Christians considered fish to be the symbol of Jesus.
            About the name:
            "Jesus is the modern Church Slavonic transliteration of the Greek form Ιησούς of the Hebrew name Yeshua, which is a truncation of the name consisting of the roots of the words" Jehovah "- the name of God in the Old Testament and" shua "- salvation. Before the church reform of Patriarch Nikon, the name of Jesus was written and pronounced with one letter “and”: “Jesus.” Patriarch Nikon changed the spelling and pronunciation to “Jesus” in order to bring them closer to the Greek version "

            And the symbols of Zeus were thunder, lightning, and indeed he was considered the embodiment of punitive power, which somehow does not suit the Savior very much.
            Well, who talked with Zeus and determined that internally he was ready to accept Christianity? Although weed, they say, is not such parishes laughing
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 10 June 2013 13: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Gato
              Nikolay, I’m not a big specialist in theology, but the early Christians considered fish to be the symbol of Jesus.

              You know, Sergey, I rarely argue about religions, because I don’t give a damn about them. “Opium, it’s also opium in Africa.” And my post, by the way, had to. I remembered something.
              1. Gato
                Gato 10 June 2013 14: 36 New
                +3
                Yes, I, in general, too.
                I consider myself an atheist, although I am neutral-positive towards Orthodoxy.
                1. sergo0000
                  sergo0000 10 June 2013 19: 34 New
                  +1
                  On the Internet there
                  video "Spirit of the time"
                  There in detail in the first part of the film about religions in general.
                  Recommend. Conclusions to do to you. hi
                  For gato
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 10 June 2013 21: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        Scapegoats are made of Islam.

        There is an opinion that Islam, during the collapse of Christianity, was invented by the Jews to fight against the Russians)).
        And Orthodoxy is a defense against ...
      3. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 10 June 2013 22: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        we must fight with the cause and not with the consequences of it ...

        100500 +++++++++++++++++++
    2. SHAKESPEARE
      SHAKESPEARE 10 June 2013 11: 46 New
      +5
      Igor, you're wrong! the threat to Russia is Western democracy, which has destroyed the USSR and now is ruining Russia. After all, Russia itself is a half-Muslim state, and Christians and Muslims have been confronted by their foreheads for centuries, the work of the hands of the West and bandits in law. If democrats were now in power in Russia, then Russia itself in a single strong state would cease to exist and split into small republics, and this is the collapse of the economy and defense, would live in democracy. freedom of trepidation and with a chupachups in your mouth and you would have been dictated by the living conditions of Europeans and Americans, and you would not have been put and did not reckon with your territorial integrity and especially independence. Follow the puppets of democracy, lose the country and independence. And Islam has nothing to do with it, inside the enemies more than from the outside.
      1. Gecko
        Gecko 10 June 2013 17: 30 New
        +1
        Well, you also wrote "half Muslim state"
        The number of traditionally Muslim peoples in Russia is about 14,5 million people. - About 10% of the country's population.

        The number of Muslims by country is distributed as follows:

        France - 5,8 million people - about 9% of the country's population
        USA - 7 million people.
        Germany - 3 million people
        Italy - 1 million people.
        Great Britain - 1,6 million people.

        Despite the fact that in Russia the total number of Muslim peoples is indicated, and in other countries the number of believers is indicated.
  27. Buran
    Buran 10 June 2013 11: 03 New
    +4
    Judging by the mood of the population, future elections will be held under the slogans of measures in migration policy. And those who propose more radical and effective measures will receive quite tangible advantages. Even the communists cannot but note all the harm of gastrobayterism, destroying how they express their support i.e. working class. The contagion of Muslim extremism is indistinguishable, for a dozen true Muslims there will always be an offended sheep with an inferiority complex. Such offended sheep who grew up in villages, arriving today in Russia and seeing with their own eyes the difference in living standards, instead of adapting, they begin to hate everyone and look for the guilty. Look at them all, most of them, not even twenty, no one told them that once, and they could live like that. Only for them their buys decided differently.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 10 June 2013 11: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Buran
      Judging by the mood of the population, future elections will be held under the slogans of measures in migration policy.


      There will be no slogans. Will be Putin. This is good - it’s better we haven’t had anyone yet. And it's bad, because it was Putin who made it so that no one is better and is not expected in the near future.

      In general, the life consul is aging, and there is no one to replace him with.
      1. Gato
        Gato 10 June 2013 13: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: zvereok
        In general, the life consul is aging, and there is no one to replace him with.


        Come on, under EBNe few people knew about Putin either. Probably, leaving the stage, the GDP will also point a finger at some .... Brutus.
        1. Buran
          Buran 10 June 2013 14: 20 New
          +3
          The disease of our state is total nepotism, not corruption. Taburetkin is an example of this. While working in a government agency, I come across this almost every day. Personnel hunger does not exist. It is impossible for professionals to break through the crowd of friends and relatives. There is no alternative to GDP just because the population does not trust any of those in power, ranging from city authorities to federal ministries.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 10 June 2013 23: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Gato
          in some .... Brutus.


          Already poked once, now scary ...
    2. sams
      sams 10 June 2013 15: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Buran
      Judging by the mood of the population, future elections will be held under the slogans of measures in migration policy. And those who propose more radical and effective measures will receive quite tangible advantages.

      This migration policy benefits our backstage authorities from all sides:
      1. The titular population is diluted (weakened) by migrants.
      2. The titular population experiences additional difficulties in obtaining livelihoods (weakening, degrading, decreasing).
      3. The high level of crime caused by the influx of migrants, and social tension do not allow people to "relax" and do not give the opportunity to focus on the main problems.
      4. A large-scale hotbed of tension is created, which can be used (several options are available) at the right time.
      5. a new submissive or not very (according to the situation) electorate is created.
      6. And finally, cheap labor - you can always earn.
      The delivery of migrants is a win-win move for our enemies. With any development of the situation, they will only benefit from this. And with controlled development - EVERYTHING will win!
      For the titular population, migrants are the last in line instrument of “peaceful” genocide (goodbye hope).
  28. pinecone
    pinecone 10 June 2013 11: 06 New
    +5
    The economic component is on a secondary plane. We are talking about the genocide of the Russian people in their native land.
  29. Goblin 28
    Goblin 28 10 June 2013 11: 26 New
    +6
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    from the Don.
    Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Stavropol .......
    I’ll go sharpen the pitchfork! We are up to the handle.

    from the Kuban.
    And also the grandfather’s saber with a dagger and more ammunition, even though we have “mummers”, but there are no others ... for now! And we accept everyone in the army as if you were old! Come, who is for Mother Russia. There is no extradition from the Kuban either!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2013 22: 20 New
      0
      And where to come then? Your flag seems to be Icelandic.
  30. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 10 June 2013 11: 28 New
    +3
    The non-Russians have already reached Siberia!
    1. Gato
      Gato 10 June 2013 13: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: SPIRITofFREEDOM
      The non-Russians have already reached Siberia!

      Gee-gee. Interestingly, what did the non-Russians say when they saw the Cossacks of Yermak?
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 18: 59 New
        -2
        Quote: Gato
        Gee-gee. Interestingly, what did the non-Russians say when they saw the Cossacks of Yermak?

        They spoke:
        - Oh! Mynau kim? Is Ogan not Kerek? ("Who is this? What does he want?")
        - Hey, Ermek, the wasp of the pole isn’t true? ("Ermak, what are you doing here?")
        - Ermek, got lost, right? Your kazyain Maxim Sytaragan land there lies. This is not your land. Siberia is for Siberians! Down with the Russian migrant workers from the Siberian Khanate! Beat Yermak, save the ulus! 14/88! Yellow power! Pew Pew!
        1. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 03: 00 New
          0
          Laughed dear.
  31. AleksandrV
    AleksandrV 10 June 2013 11: 30 New
    +3
    Nationalism for Russia is deadly and it does not matter which one. Finally, the word "Ideology" did not become afraid. Without a nationwide ideology, one cannot move on. And all power structures must ensure its promotion.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 10 June 2013 20: 52 New
      0
      Quote: AleksandrV
      Nationalism for Russia is deadly and it does not matter which one. Finally, the word "Ideology" did not become afraid. Without a nationwide ideology, one cannot move on. And all power structures must ensure its promotion.

      You're right. But the most dangerous thing for Russia is the Russians. Free Russia from the Russians!
      1. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 11 June 2013 03: 01 New
        0
        I didn’t understand the couple in your comment. What do you want to free from whom?
  32. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 11: 36 New
    +2
    Western “friends” and their Russian lobbyists in power will allow future terrorists into the country for bribes, and a scenario such as in Syria will be launched. They themselves will run away when it becomes hot. It is now the migrant workers are still working and undergoing ideological training, and maybe even military somewhere, they already have a hatred for Russians that has accumulated over the years of slavery on mercenary tsars. It remains to give a command from above so that they begin to smash in the most vulnerable areas of the country.

    If this chaos is not stopped now, then it will not seem to anyone, Putin is wondering where he is looking? This is a quiet occupation of Russia, and no Hitler is needed as it turned out.
  33. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 10 June 2013 11: 39 New
    +3
    <<< The expert proposed to stop the practice of patronizing Islamism at the top, to radically change the migration policy and to ensure an end to discrimination against Russians in the national republics of the Russian Federation. Urgent measures are needed to strengthen the ethnic core of Russia - Russians. >>>
    In order to turn the tide, you need to engage not so much in catching ordinary jihadists, although it is also important how much you take up work with national elites, stop all flirting with them (the result of flirting is already in the face), regardless of the faces, to clean the figures from the authorities of the republics, not hindering, and even patronizing the Islamization of the population of the republics, finally, to render all possible assistance in strengthening the position of Islam traditional on the territory of Russia as a counterbalance to extremism and obscurantism of Wahhabism, heavily propagated in Russia by visiting emissaries, for whom the borders of Russia should be closed, and Wahhabism itself, finally, it is forbidden, (how much more can you endure this ???) as a religious sect, provoking interreligious strife and undermining the foundations of the Russian state!
  34. alexkross83
    alexkross83 10 June 2013 11: 47 New
    +3
    The idea of ​​creating a strong Russian state with a communist ideology is needed, religion should be relegated to the background gradually, because it is not given to a person for good, 99% are spiritually not ready to accept it and interpret it in their own way, which leads to conflicts. Religion has always been an instrument of dodging of people. Values ​​must become different ...
    1. Abakanets
      Abakanets 10 June 2013 12: 52 New
      +4
      Communism itself has long been discredited. The main thing in the Russian Federation should be RUSSIAN it should be fixed by law.
      1. Buran
        Buran 10 June 2013 13: 20 New
        +2
        Communism is inherently more progressive and plastic, in contrast to capitalism. Those same "builders" of the late eighties, today's oligarchs and their children are discredited. And the current top of the Central Committee is not much different.
    2. Letterksi
      Letterksi 10 June 2013 13: 09 New
      0
      Communist ideology has already led us to what we are seeing now. The Russian state has always been sent and this, as you can see, is a religion. One hundred years ago there was no nationality as such, but faith. Who are you? - I'm Orthodox. And only the Communists introduced the concept of nationality, than began the split of the country. Russia stood up for the Serbs in the First World War, for the reason that they were Orthodox, and therefore the same who we ourselves are. It’s balls war for their faith. and only a limited person can now say that in vain Russia stood up for Serbia. If Russia had not stood up for Serbia then, it would have hit in the mud with its face just as in 1991, when it had not stood up for its own population in Chechnya, when 200 thousand were lost and another 200 were forced to flee. This is also when the Russians were slaughtered and driven out throughout Central Asia and the Caucasus in the same years.
      The only thing the communists gave was social guarantees. And now, under these guarantees, crying and nagging are still heard that they again want in the USSR. These social guarantees were based on high birth rates, when two young men kept one old man. No new communism will lead to past successes; the old cannot be turned back, because the situation in the country and the world is completely different. All this communism destroyed the will of the people in factories
      It is necessary to study the materiel better
      1. Buran
        Buran 10 June 2013 13: 45 New
        +2
        I will answer right away. Russian, at least seven generations. Orthodox. But again, I repeat that communism is inherently disfigured by constant changes both in politics and in social foundations. Every politician, Lenin, Stalin, even a hunchbacked, built an ideology for this period of time. Just like the Americans are cutting democracy today. And as for the mat part, excuse me except for social guarantees there was a powerful army, weight in geopolitics, and scientific potential based on powerful education. As for Serbia, you see, you don’t know much how the political elite of this state behaved flirting with Europe and the USA and spitting half-dead Russia at that time.
  35. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 11: 49 New
    +4
    In general, it is time to cleanse the authorities like 1937 from foreign agents, only not by murders, but to send them home with shame. Otherwise, in another “world war” against us, we will lose. Power usurped by foreign lobbyists of all stripes and watered. prostitutes. West is in bad fin. position and in the next 5 years will unleash the war with the hands of today's guest workers. What is happening with our allies is just a rehearsal and working out a script for applying it to Russia.
  36. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 10 June 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    / Ideology..... it does not arise overnight. Not only ideology .... Spiritual leader !! .. Real and not set ..... Spiritual leader, able to unite and direct all religions and faiths of Russia. But to wait for him to sit and not to do nothing is a crime. Of course, something is being done by the state in the person of the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FMS. BUT judging by the fact that radicalism is growing and turning into a real threat, it’s obviously not enough ..... the methods should be tough and the methods more decisive. Stop illegal migration !!! To the leaders ... all the leaders of well-known radical Islamic organizations to give a written explicit warning about their actions and plans in Russia. They don’t understand - to wet ... and to soak so that they could not find places for themselves around the world. And only so "" ... Remember how a. Nevsky said .... ",, Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword! ... This is now very relevant.
  37. Egen
    Egen 10 June 2013 12: 31 New
    0
    IMHO.
    The author correctly said / showed / made conclusions.
    I would not want to incite ethnic hatred, and so there is someone to incite. For this, correctly, we need a universal state policy - from raising children to immigration bans and activating the Office, and other departments. Unfortunately, in the traffic police over 50% of the personnel were cut, if in others it is the same, what kind of work is there :(
    A separate topic is the migration service. According to American films, they have this serious thing, they catch everyone, and they built a wall on the border :), but - with us?
    If there are knowledgeable forum users on it, it would be nice to give information.
    1. Sour
      Sour 10 June 2013 13: 32 New
      +3
      (((Unfortunately, in the traffic police won 50% of the personnel cut)))
      As far as I know, in the combat units of the traffic police reduced 15%. I know this from the people who work there. First of all, those who dared to object to the authorities and had their opinion were fired. As a rule, these were not the worst people, and the least corrupt.
      1. Egen
        Egen 10 June 2013 16: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Sour
        in combat units, DPS reduced 15%.

        Sorry Comrade Sour, I did not indicate where, I thought, and so it is clear that we are talking about the native Kuzbass :)
        I am writing specifically about the DPS battalion, the combatants - 50%. Who periodically drove through Kuzbass can confirm that now you can hardly find traffic cops on the roads. It is clear that fewer people have been reduced in the region, fewer “friends”, so it’ll come out somewhere ... 25-30% per circle :) And you have it where it is geographically only 15%, but you have a direct paradise :), go also doctors and teachers, the number does not fall but increases :))
        PS and, yes, the info is from a relative, not a small tama boss :)
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2013 22: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Egen
      A separate topic is the migration service. According to American films, they have this serious thing, they catch everyone, and they built a wall on the border :), but - with us?
      If there are knowledgeable forum users on it, it would be nice to give information.

      While they are catching one illegal immigrant in a movie, in real life, a hundred illegal immigrants (oh, sorry, I called them politically incorrect, I had a "undocumented immigrant") cross the border. In the border states, mexes and other Latinos will soon become the majority, and here in the northeast they are like dirt. Almost all official documents are printed with a Spanish translation, even subpoenas for jury duty (in jury members) and ballots, although it would seem that in order to obtain citizenship a candidate must pass an English test, but these papers have nothing to do with non-citizens.
      And this liberalist Obama almost jumps out of his pants trying to “document” illegal immigrants, and more simply, legalize. It is clear why - when they get the right to vote, they will vote for shit.
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  41. Letterksi
    Letterksi 10 June 2013 12: 47 New
    +3
    The activities of Pu, Dugin and the hedgehog with them in 2012 led to a “wonderful” ideology, an analysis of which is given here http://vnatio.org/news2904/ It turns out that we are all hostages together with the security forces, on which we will primarily fall the burden of "bringing the situation back to normal." The siloviki are forced to disperse everyone and everything in order to preserve this vile power of the marmotism of Medvedevism and other husks in power. And they try to do all sorts of Eurasian unions / experiments. As a result, after the final loss of control over the situation, as always at all times, we Ivana will put their heads and bring the situation back to normal. First of all, in order to confront the threats described in the article, we need OUR state with OUR power, and not a breed for the state that Politically correct and paid N Starikov, Dugin, Ivashov, Prokhanov, Izborsk Club and other Eurasian obscurantists are trying to make of us clay for cementing all kinds of HizbutTahrir IMU and caliphates, now also the Mongols!
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 19: 05 New
      0
      Quote: LetterKsi
      OUR state

      Is our state Russia or Kazakhstan? I can’t get it - do you have a passport of which country?
      1. Letterksi
        Letterksi 10 June 2013 19: 36 New
        -2
        I am Orthodox or Russian, whatever. In this case, the passport does not matter
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 21: 30 New
          +1
          Yes, as it matters. When a person lives with me in one country, but believes that his state is another country, this is fraught. How can I trust you? You are ready to expel all strangers from Russia, but you yourself are a stranger in Kazakhstan. Maybe you don’t have to sit on two chairs?
          I would understand you perfectly if you were worried about Russia, but at the same time you considered Kazakhstan as YOUR state. Moreover, I would fully support you in your worries for Russia, since I myself am not indifferent to the future of this country. But apparently, Russia's priorities are higher for you than the priorities of Kazakhstan - and this is called the "fifth column." So either be a Kazakhstani, or go to Russia then to fight for your ideals, having received Russian citizenship. Otherwise, you are just the same guest worker against whom you are here to blame.
          Remember the joke about a Jew in a bathhouse? "Abram Moiseevich, you either remove the cross or put on your underpants ..."
          Z.Y. If you spit in the direction of the historical homeland - Russia and would swear 100% loyalty to Kazakhstan and to everything Kazakh, I would generally ask you to swear down from Kazakhstan. Because this is the action of mankurt. Well, and so just ask to decide - which country’s priorities are higher for you, and accordingly, where should you live then. The concept of "Russian Kazakhstani" (to which I respect) is composed of two parts - "Russian" and "Kazakhstani".
          1. Letterksi
            Letterksi 10 June 2013 22: 22 New
            +3
            1. Why did you get the idea that I live in Kazakhstan? Did the flag bother you? I can make it become Chinese, for example.

            2. Why did you bring a joke about a Jew in a bathhouse? I seem to have said without coding that I am an Orthodox Russian.

            3. Yes, Russia's priorities are higher for me.

            4. What does Kazakhstan have to do with my first post? In it, I talked about the Dugin Eurosian Union and so on, and also mentioned the HizbutTahrir IMU and the caliphate. And you bit a bit on my passport and your country of Kazakhstan. Are you an IMU fan and an ardent person who wants to live in a caliphate? Believe you won't like it

            5. You yourself got into a topic that Kazakhstan and you are not concerned with in any way and betrayed yourself with giblets. It is for this reason, because of an incomprehensible hypertrophic resentment of Central Asians against Russians and Orthodox, that Russians, like me, do not want Central Asians to come to our country. And the insult is visible, for the reason that you reacted so painfully and began to accuse me of what I did not and who I am not

            6. I will not spit in the direction of Russia, do not even hope in my innermost fantasies

            7. Try to understand the roots and sponsors of the IMU and HizbutTahrir, and immediately find yourself in London. Scour the site anna-news.info, see that the Salafi plague threatens not only Russia or Kazakhstan, but Eurasia as a whole. This is a news resource about the war in Syria. And I wholeheartedly support the victory of the Syrian people with Assad at the head. Notice the Syrian people are mostly Muslims. The ophthalmologist is much better than the furniture maker

            8. And yet, decide on your faith of confession - Tengrianism, Islam or Saudi Wahhabism. You can’t sit on three stools at the same time
            1. Marek Rozny
              Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 22: 59 New
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              Quote: LetterKsi
              1. Why did you get the idea that I live in Kazakhstan? Did the flag bother you?

              I’m not only convinced that you live in KZ, but I can also say that your provider is Kazakhstan Beeline (it has a characteristic cant - constantly change IPs from Kazakh to American). And just don’t tell me that you are in Russia, but you’re embarrassed by the Russian flag and therefore confused with receiving a Kazakh IP address or that it’s an “unknown h. Not a single Russian provider gives the Russians a Kazakh IP address by default.
              Quote: LetterKsi
              2. Why did you bring a joke about a Jew in a bathhouse? I seem to have said without coding that I am an Orthodox Russian.

              So that you are not like a man trying to sit on two chairs. Or go to Russia, or be a Kazakhstani.
              Quote: LetterKsi
              3. Yes, Russia's priorities are higher for me.

              It's your right. So go there. What for you is in KZ? Not enough money to move? In Russia, there is a program for immigrants, contact the consulate. Even the poor Tajiks even find the means to move to Russia, what keeps you here?
              Quote: LetterKsi
              4. What does Kazakhstan have to do with my first post? In it, I talked about the Dugin Eurosian Union and so on, and also mentioned the HizbutTahrir IMU and the caliphate. And you bit a bit on my passport and your country of Kazakhstan. Are you an IMU fan and an ardent person who wants to live in a caliphate? Believe you won't like it

              It annoys me that elements disloyal to Kazakhstan live in my country. Just like you are annoyed by such elements in Russia. Only I live with myself at the same time, and you as a guest worker in my country (I hope you will not punch in the chest now, saying that "Kazakhstan is your country" after all my phrases?) I have the same attitude towards the IMU the vast majority of Muslims have a negative one. Only I know the difference between Islam and Salafis, and for you all Muslim words are "the lexicon of terrorists."
              1. Marek Rozny
                Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 23: 03 New
                +1
                Quote: LetterKsi
                5. You yourself got into a topic that Kazakhstan and you are not concerned with in any way and betrayed yourself with giblets. It is for this reason, because of an incomprehensible hypertrophic resentment of Central Asians against Russians and Orthodox, that Russians, like me, do not want Central Asians to come to our country. And the insult is visible, for the reason that you reacted so painfully and began to accuse me of what I did not and who I am not

                Rave. a) The theme of the relationship between religions and terrorism is a topic that concerns everyone. b) I gave myself away in what ??? c) Kazakhstan - is not Central Asia. d) The inhabitants of Central Asia have no particular complaints against Russians or Orthodox. Rather, some Asian Russians have a grudge against the fact that no one makes them three times at a meeting and does not give them yellow pants because of their Russian / Orthodox Christianity.
                Quote: LetterKsi
                6. I will not spit in the direction of Russia, do not even hope in my innermost fantasies
                Calm down, I don’t have such fantasies. Read carefully what was written about it, and what it was written about.

                Quote: LetterKsi
                7. Try to understand the roots and sponsors of the IMU and HizbutTahrir, and immediately find yourself in London. Scour the site anna-news.info, see that the Salafi plague threatens not only Russia or Kazakhstan, but Eurasia as a whole.

                Apparently, you have recently been in the subject)))) Ethnic Kazakhs have long known what the IMU, HT and Salafism are))))

                Quote: LetterKsi
                8. And yet, decide on your faith of confession - Tengrianism, Islam or Saudi Wahhabism. You can’t sit on three stools at the same time

                And this tells me a person who can not determine citizenship? laughing He died)))) As regards religion, I was once again convinced how some Russians from the number of supposedly “disadvantaged” have no idea about the country in which they live))) Otherwise, I would know that Islam and Tengrianism are mixed between Kazakhs, in the same way as in Orthodoxy, Russians have enough rudiments of paganism) Or do you, Orthodox, do not celebrate Shrovetide?)))) Well, but about the fact that I supposedly Wahhabi - it's like you "ruined the air"))))

                In short, do not be nervous, but just go to the historical homeland. And then there will be no misunderstandings. What for you Kazakhstan? You don’t need him. Buy a ticket - go to the fight against migrant workers.
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            3. Marek Rozny
              Marek Rozny 10 June 2013 23: 13 New
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              Quote: LetterKsi
              1. Why did you get the idea that I live in Kazakhstan? Did the flag bother you? I can make it become Chinese, for example.

              Wahaha, I’m not only convinced that you live in Kazakhstan, I also know your surname and who you work for))))) You wouldn’t be so frustrated out of the blue, posing as a Russian, Igor))))
              1. Letterksi
                Letterksi 11 June 2013 09: 50 New
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                This reaction amuses me, it’s good, write more. If it does not fit in one comment field, write three or four comments.

                By the way, I didn’t say that I’m a Russian; you yourself invented it. I said that I am a right-sent Russian
                1. Marek Rozny
                  Marek Rozny 11 June 2013 21: 10 New
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                  Reread your comments, you expose yourself as a citizen of Russia in them, and not Kazakhstan. And in general, for you, Kazakhstan is a fascist state. Blow to the historical homeland, migrant workers. There, and fight for Russia without Gastes and alliances with the Kazakhs, Belarusians and others who enter the Eurasian Union. So it will be more logical.
                  And do not want to go to your historical homeland - be a Kazakhstani and a patriot of your country. Do something for the development of the country of which you are a citizen. Then I will take off my hat in front of you, and in the face I will give it to anyone who tells you "Suitcase, train station, Russia." I myself will say to everyone that this is your land, and you are a full-fledged citizen and master of this country. And so ... you are just a random element in Kazakhstan with hostile views. Blow from here.

                  Z.Y. I’m deep in the drum, who are you by nationality and religion. Kazakhs are not e..t absolutely. Even if you were the most taunting Kazakh and Muslim, I would tell you the same thing - get out of here. You can scold and blaspheme Kazakhstan, but only if you consider this country to be yours, and the rest of the Kazakhstanis - like-minded people. If you do not consider Kazakhstan your country, then you have nothing to do here. What is incomprehensible to you here? The bulk of the “restrained” losers fell in the 90s, and you apparently didn’t have time for the train. Either be a Russian Kazakhstani or be a Russian Russian. That's all.
                  1. Was mammoth
                    Was mammoth 11 June 2013 21: 58 New
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                    The funnel will deal with the “restrained”! And will not have time to dump
              2. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 11 June 2013 21: 52 New
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                Quote: Marek Rozny
                I also know your surname and who you work with)))))

                Has the funnel already left?
                1. Marek Rozny
                  Marek Rozny 12 June 2013 00: 55 New
                  +1
                  Funnels leave us for the Salafis. And it’s a pity to spend on this type of gasoline. Let him get to the Russian consulate on his own, so that he can get out of here under the resettlement program of “compatriots”.
                  Who has hands and a head, that in Kazakhstan has something of his own. And you won’t push him out of Kazakhstan with a bulldozer. And when arms grow out of the ass, “oppression”, “conspiracies” and “evil eyes” seem. These losers are unable even to build a house for themselves, and they imagine themselves to be "the creators of all of Kazakhstan." Those who built and raised Kazakhstan will get the hell out of here. And all shit (convicts, dropouts) was sent to us in the Kazakh SSR in Soviet times more than enough. Normal Russian Kazakhstanis (which are many times more than these "insulted and humiliated") are the pride of our country, and take these whiners back for yourself. A normal Russian, we will give you hell our.
  42. Corsair
    Corsair 10 June 2013 12: 49 New
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    War of civilizations

    An incorrectly selected heading spoils the overall urgent article.
    Well, the criminal does not bear Shushar and the terrorists from Islam NO indications Civilizations и CIVILIZATION.
    Russia has historically always been at the junction of Western and Eastern civilizations, and has absorbed the best of them. Therefore, We are in a more paired property position in front of the Euro-Atlanteans, although at the same time we are fighting on the “front line” of the fight against terrorism.And the victory will be ours!
  43. Abakanets
    Abakanets 10 June 2013 12: 58 New
    +5
    It’s time to close the borders with the Central Asian viper, because only Islamic crawls out of there. To keep Russian Muslims under total control. To secure legislative superiority in the employment of citizens of the Russian Federation over foreigners. They have no job? Yes, do not care, even though they are eating each other with hunger, this is not our business. Introduce visas, and deport foreigners at the expense of the host country.
  44. Sour
    Sour 10 June 2013 13: 05 New
    +7
    Quote: dejavu
    Only Russians can save this world. "

    First of all, you must save yourself. Enough to “save the world”, he never thanked us for that.
  45. True
    True 10 June 2013 13: 09 New
    +2
    And by the way, China has a pretty tolerable system of combating Muslim extremism. I advise you to familiarize yourself.
  46. Kolyan
    Kolyan 10 June 2013 13: 10 New
    +2
    As always, the Americans themselves do not want to fight, so they raised the Wahhabis. To save the country, the leadership needs to act quickly and decisively, including, finally, changing the constitution.
  47. Sour
    Sour 10 June 2013 13: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: LetterKsi
    and other Eurasian obscurantists trying to make clay out of us for cementing all kinds of HizbutTahrir IMU and caliphates,

    I totally agree.
    Eurasians are fierce enemies of the Russian people, even worse than liberalists. They want Russia to again become a satisfying feeding trough for Russophobic peoples, and in return for gratitude, Russia will again receive ridicule and damnation from these peoples, as was the case in the late 80s and early 90s. Eurasians are a hundred times more dangerous than liberals, because different Nemtsovs and Gozmans are too visible with the naked eye, and figures like Dugin mow down under patriots and use patriotic phraseology. Although, in fact, their goal is to inject a hungry Russian and a well-fed and satisfied national living at his expense. This is their understanding of patriotism. I well remember the Soviet era and the abundance in Ukrainian and Baltic stores, empty counters in the Russian province. Although the Russians in the USSR have always worked the most. And now the situation with filling the counters has leveled off, and for good reason. Time has put everything in its place, but the Eurasians do not like it.
    1. Abakanets
      Abakanets 10 June 2013 13: 26 New
      +1
      As far as I remember, Dugin called physics and mathematics "demonic sciences"
      1. Sour
        Sour 10 June 2013 13: 41 New
        +1
        He is not the first one. As far back as the 17th century, Patriarch Nikon named geometry among the “godless” sciences.
        1. Gato
          Gato 10 June 2013 18: 30 New
          +3
          You are too strict for the church. In the end, she acknowledged that the Earth is round.
          What a pity, I really wanted to see elephants repeat
  48. 12061973
    12061973 10 June 2013 13: 53 New
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    Alexey Pashentsev, a Russian leader from a gang in Makhachkala, Dokku Umarov, makes him a new star like Tikhomirov, and there are many such examples of Saprykin
  49. Mr.M
    Mr.M 10 June 2013 13: 57 New
    +2
    Alas, the ideological, religious and moral vacuum created in the country is the ideal soil for the cultivation of extremism.
  50. zvereok
    zvereok 10 June 2013 14: 10 New
    +2
    Here's how the Poles solve the problem of (legal) migration:

    “Poland is for the Poles, so ... we’re burning the Chechens!”, - under this heading Gazeta Wyborcza tells about the incident in the Green Mountains in Bialystok in Poland. And he explains further: again unknown bandits attacked the refugees.


    http://mediarupor.ru/blog/43279936026/%22Multikulturnyiy-podhod-ne-rabotaet%22:-
    v-polshe-podzhigayut-zhili