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Launch of Soyuz-2.1b with the Persona 07.06.2013 satellite

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The cost of the launch of a Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with a spacecraft for the Russian Defense Ministry on Friday is 10 billion rubles, said the deputy head of Roscosmos, Anatoly Shilov, after successfully launching a military satellite from the Plesetsk cosmodrome.


"I will give a small secret, this launch is worth about 10 billion rubles," - said Shilov RIA "News».

According to him, the next such an apparatus for the Russian Defense Ministry is already in production and will be launched either in the 2013 year or at the beginning of the 2014 year.

“Either this year, or next, such a device will fly. The state gets eyes and ears. The industry undertakes to manufacture these devices regularly, ”the deputy head of Roskosmos noted.

The launch vehicle with a military satellite was launched from the 43 site of the Plesetsk cosmodrome at 22.37 Moscow time Friday. Launching into target orbit was successful. Immediately after taking control of the spacecraft was assigned a serial number "Cosmos-2486".

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Launch of Soyuz-2.1b with the Persona 07.06.2013 satelliteBy the decree of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Colonel Nikolai Nestechuk was appointed head of the Plesetsk cosmodrome, who previously held the post of the acting cosmodrome chief.

The presidential order for appointment was read out by the Commander of the Aerospace Defense (WKO), Major General Alexander Golovko on Friday after the successful launch of a military spacecraft from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, reports RIA Novosti.

The commander of the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan region thanked the launch crew for the successful launch of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle.

The launch vehicle with a military satellite was launched from the 43 site of the Plesetsk cosmodrome at 22.37 Moscow time Friday. A few minutes after the launch, the rocket was taken to escort by means of the Titov Main Test Space Center (GIKTS).

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  1. Belo_biletnik
    Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 08: 22 New
    +1
    Is this a companion from Liana? Interestingly, the system is already working or not ... Secret pancake in open sources, there is nothing (
    1. Concept1
      Concept1 8 June 2013 08: 27 New
      +4
      10 lards !!! precisely targeting satellite !?
      1. Belo_biletnik
        Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 08: 36 New
        -49
        If our satellites are built like roads (they steal and roll away), then why not .. You can also send a blank for space into space for 20 lard according to estimates wink
        1. Withoutdream
          Withoutdream 8 June 2013 10: 44 New
          17
          Even if something was stolen from these 10 billion, so what? The task was set, the money allocated, the task solved, the goal achieved! What else do you need? There are many examples where money for the task assigned, and then no money, no result! So Roscosmos well done. The whole team, all enterprises and research departments worked as they should! Congratulations on a successful launch!
          1. Belo_biletnik
            Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 11: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: Withoutdream
            Even if something was stolen from these 10 billion, so what?

            Well, I don’t like this approach, "what" in your understanding is how much?
            Quote: Withoutdream
            There are many examples where money for the task assigned, and then no money, no result! So the Roskosmos fellows

            and thanks for that!
            here's the size of your "something" as an example:
            "representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs reported that the leadership of Roscosmos stole 6,5 billion rubles. This is a third of the total amount allocated from the budget for the creation of the GLONASS domestic navigation system."
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 8 June 2013 15: 38 New
          15
          Quote: Belo_biletnik
          If our satellites are built like roads (they steal and roll away), then why not .. You can also send a blank for space into space for 20 lard according to estimates


          budget expenditures for the construction and launch of this satellite amounted to ~ 71 rubles / citizen of the Russian Federation per year.
          Two different approaches to one event:
          1) We launched a military satellite
          2) We launched a military satellite worth 10 billion rubles
          Reaction:
          1) OK! Probably the right thing. And the military now needs it!
          2) Get your hands on it! Yes, how many can folk billions in this haunted cosmos bullet !!!
          On what actually belolentochnye and the consciousness of the layman play excitement.
          -
          "Fuck! 10 lards !!! For one companion! Why the hell did he give up? It’s best to share such a lot of money !!!"

          And he is not aware that these billions were spent in one way or another on the creation of high technologies and jobs in the most important industry. Moreover, it is competitively capable in the world market. And theft is the conditions accompanying him, this is a topic of a different order.
          Otherwise, the hell to us satellites, rockets. tanks, planes and without them Russia and we will normally live in it, than to give our taxes to rogues from the military-industrial complex who are stealing everything, it’s better to build hospitals and schools with this money .. It’s certainly better, but unfortunately if you don’t know the meaning of the word Dropshot and him like plans, then you can completely rest in such confidence.
          1. alex86
            alex86 8 June 2013 21: 22 New
            -8
            Quote: Ascetic
            belolentochnye and play
            So far, I haven’t met any “white-tape” statements with such statements, but you’ve already attributed certain statements to some “white-tape” ones (counter-revolution is another word that is hidden behind it - it’s unknown - Prof. Preobrazhensky, “Dog’s Heart” - What do you mean by the term "white tape"?)
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 9 June 2013 01: 55 New
              0
              instead of a cry of noise and "walks," streets of revenge instead of Tajiks would go.
            2. alex86
              alex86 9 June 2013 22: 44 New
              -1
              Quote: alex86
              and what do you mean by the term "white tape"?
              I quote myself - no one said anything, only set the minuses - as I understand it, you work out your 200 rubles a day, but there is nothing to say?
        3. Roman555
          Roman555 9 June 2013 15: 04 New
          0
          some expert in the field of construction and paving pricing appeared on the radio. so, to the question why our prices are higher per km of roads, he answered: the cost of construction and materials is taken abroad, we have all the cost, which includes the development of design estimates, and most importantly - the transfer of communications. all of Moscow and other large cities of Russia are replete with sub-city communications, with the construction of roads, overpasses, etc., their transfer requires huge costs, which ultimately significantly affects the price. according to the data of this specialist, prices per 1 km of roads excluding these costs are equal to foreign.
    2. Know-nothing
      8 June 2013 08: 49 New
      25
      This is the "Person" third-generation Russian military optical intelligence satellite, designed to receive high-resolution images and transmit them quickly to Earth via radio channel.
      The Persona spacecraft platform is based on Resurs-DK spacecraft.
      The competition for the creation of a new Optoelectronic Intelligence Satellite, Persona, of the Russian Ministry of Defense held in 2000.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Персона_(космический_аппарат)
      1. Belo_biletnik
        Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 08: 58 New
        -35
        Those who believe in myths pass the campaign
        1. Hooray!!!!! we have the best roads because the most expensive

        2. They do not steal in Roscosmos (this is the same state corporation as they steal).

        It seems to me that in our country, cash injections into the defense industry and Roskosmos without a real fight against corruption are reminiscent of carrying water with a sieve.
        1. DmitriRazumov
          DmitriRazumov 8 June 2013 10: 30 New
          13
          Quote: Belo_biletnik
          It seems to me that in our country, cash injections into the defense industry and Roskosmos without a real fight against corruption are reminiscent of carrying water with a sieve.

          Here we are talking about the specific results of the work of many design and engineering teams located throughout the country. And it was precisely in the space projects of the Moscow Region that the teams were preserved and the technologies developed. are one of the foundations of our country's defense. And this is reality ...
        2. fisherman
          fisherman 8 June 2013 13: 48 New
          +2
          the fight against corruption will continue until the second coming of Christ ...

          and information is needed now ...
        3. Straus_zloy
          Straus_zloy 8 June 2013 23: 09 New
          +4
          Those who believe in myths pass the campaign
          1. Hooray!!!!! we have the best roads because the most expensive



          By the way, in Russia, not all are so bad:

          German road organizations contacted the Novosibirsk Region Highway Administration to learn from road maintenance at extremely cold temperatures

          http://tayga.info/news/2010/03/03/~96098


          And with patriotism it’s bad, I think I'm looking at you.
        4. projdoha
          projdoha 9 June 2013 00: 25 New
          -2
          when it seems necessary to be baptized
      2. Roman555
        Roman555 9 June 2013 15: 08 New
        0
        did it take so long to create a satellite? interesting and the satellite parameters in the filling area were adjusted, because in 13 years a lot has changed
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 8 June 2013 08: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Belo_biletnik
      Secret pancake in open sources there is nothing (

      Those who need to know everything about him. And remember, for a long time. The less you know the better you sleep.
      1. Belo_biletnik
        Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 09: 24 New
        +7
        I will sleep more peacefully, knowing that the satellite intelligence is equipped with us and works like a watch, and nothing will fly over my head, come running, or crawl. And yours
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Those who need to know everything about him. And remember, for a long time. The less you know the better you sleep.
        I was not impressed.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 8 June 2013 09: 52 New
          +7
          Quote: Belo_biletnik
          I’ll sleep more peacefully, knowing that our satellite intelligence is equipped and works like a watch,

          Well, go work in that industry. You will know absolutely everything. When you become an industry leader. But not before! Any country has the right to secrets, even from its citizens. There are a lot of examples when citizens of one country began to work on intelligence of another.
          1. Belo_biletnik
            Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 11: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Well, go work in that industry.

            me and on his slave. the location is not bad.
            Quote: Hedgehog
            You will know absolutely everything.

            vague doubts torment me
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Any country has the right to secrets, even from its citizens.

            I agree has. But if the media say that we have the same Liana already working, I won’t tell amers bully
            1. Belo_biletnik
              Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 11: 10 New
              -7
              Actually, I don’t understand what are you trying to prove to me? What in state. corporations do not steal?
              Well, dream.

              Design teams saved - good.
              Gos. secret has a right to exist.

              The satellite was created, launched and put into the calculated orbit - wonderful. Perhaps the purchased electronics will not fail.

              PS: but they still steal! (She's still round wink )
              1. Withoutdream
                Withoutdream 8 June 2013 11: 28 New
                +8
                No one is trying to prove anything. Stealing is a fact! The question is different. Example: you ordered a dish at a restaurant for 100 rubles. I gave the money, you sit - you wait ... And here two options loom. First, they didn’t bring you a dish, and they said that you either didn’t pay at all or paid, but it turned out that the cook was mistaken and the ingredients were more expensive, pay another 100 rubles, or whatever. And the second option - they brought the dish to you, you ate it and were satisfied. So you do not care who then and where these 100r. affairs? In fact, these are already internal problems of the restaurant. So? Here is the same thing. The amount was indicated, the tender was held, the contracting companies completed the task, the state was enough. But how and where then these funds were cut, the state no longer cares. I am not saying that it is good and right. Here simply the principle of “two evils” is triggered, from which, as you know, you need to choose the “lesser”. hi
                1. Belo_biletnik
                  Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 16: 01 New
                  -2
                  Okay restaurant, so restaurant. The problem is that with the current scope of bribery and kickbacks, you run the risk of getting for your 100r. rotten soup, or soup in which they didn’t report something, or saved on potatoes by setting the year before last. And as a result, with an aggregate worth 10 lard, communications are suddenly lost and all the work of hundreds of people and loot burn up in the atmosphere. Remember Phobos, where counterfeit chips failed.

                  I repeat once again for URYakolok, I am not opposed to having the government plow money in the defense industry, we just need to stifle (completely crush it) corruption, which I remember every time on the way to work (on our city roads soon more than one satellite will be rolled up (at a cost), but there’s no sense am )
                  1. olegff68
                    olegff68 9 June 2013 01: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Belo_biletnik
                    just first you need to strangle (it’s impossible to completely crush) corruption

                    You, your will, as a Chekist from old Soviet films - "Here we will kill all the counteras and live !!!"
                    Want to discuss the road - to put it mildly, they made a mistake on the site and topic.
                    Corruption as such is not a reason to refuse to move forward.
                    And as Professor Preobrazhensky, beloved by you (and us), used to say “Devastation is not in closets, but in the heads”, it will end when everyone goes out and fixes his own barn.
                    But in general, great news !!!
              2. neri73-r
                neri73-r 8 June 2013 12: 06 New
                10
                Sawed up or not - this is not the topic of this article, you are going out of the marshes, who climb everywhere with their crazy ideas about theft, drunkenness, inefficiency, etc. ....... In a word, troll!
                1. Belo_biletnik
                  Belo_biletnik 8 June 2013 16: 12 New
                  -2
                  Well, duck, if you name several areas of activity where teetotalers work, who do not steal and everything is very effective, I admit that in our country everything is not so bad. So far in the enterprises where I worked there is a mess and ruin.
                  1. Straus_zloy
                    Straus_zloy 8 June 2013 23: 13 New
                    +2
                    Well, duck, if you name several areas of activity where teetotalers work, who do not steal and everything is very effective, I admit that in our country everything is not so bad

                    Are you guaranteed to name several of these areas in some other country?

                    Or do you think in the West there is no mess and corruption and all are completely teetotalers?
                    1. Aljavad
                      Aljavad 9 June 2013 02: 07 New
                      +1
                      But right now I’m reading old Der Spiegel’s numbers. Dap there they have a mess, mumble and gouging !!!! The end of the myth of German precision and punctuality.
                      And they also saw the loot. SPECIFICALLY
                  2. Aljavad
                    Aljavad 9 June 2013 02: 04 New
                    +1
                    US is not all bad in the country. The glass is half FULL! A mess and ruin, my friend ..... how did Preobrazhensky say to Bulgakov?
                  3. zardoz
                    zardoz 9 June 2013 03: 32 New
                    +2
                    Why didn’t you put things in order? I worked at three enterprises and there was order. On duty, I was at large working factories and there, too, quite decently. And this is Ukraine - I even thought that things with order are worse in our country than in Russia. Or maybe you are slightly exaggerating?
              3. zardoz
                zardoz 9 June 2013 03: 27 New
                +1
                Well, steal and what? What to do? What is the essence of your speeches? Type it is necessary to do even with theft? I agree, but how? But let the defense industry while it rests while the Borozza with theft will be?
        2. poquello
          poquello 8 June 2013 20: 35 New
          +1
          Somehow, it doesn’t follow from the lack of theft that it will work like a watch. It will be from an abid, they didn’t steal, but flew in.
    4. Civil
      Civil 8 June 2013 12: 05 New
      +1
      The Sond-PP satellite has failed and so far they have not been able to regain control. This is reported with reference to an anonymous source in the space industry, the Interfax news agency.

      The message also indicates that the device has already been recognized lost due to a technical malfunction, and that specialists on Earth are trying to reconnect with the satellite. The reasons for the failure of the Probe-PP are also unknown. The device, built and developed at the Lavochkin NPO, did not work even for a year out of the three years it was supposed to: it was launched on July 22, 2012.


      probably the reformers got
      1. karbofos
        karbofos 8 June 2013 15: 12 New
        -1
        Civilian, but it doesn’t occur to you that the military might have such a special maneuver like a “lost” satellite, the pentagon is satisfied, and when will this space “rubbish” be necessary, something will be learned? wassat laughing laughing laughing
    5. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 8 June 2013 13: 34 New
      +2
      ... and you need to know it? .... the more so, your nickname says that it hurts so far from the army ...
    6. Army1
      Army1 8 June 2013 13: 40 New
      +2
      Persona ”(GUKOS index - 14F137) is the third generation Russian military optical reconnaissance satellite, designed to receive high-resolution images and transmit them quickly to Earth via radio channel. A new type of satellites has been developed and is being produced at the Tsarsk-Progress Samara Space Rocket Center, while the optical system is being manufactured at the St. Petersburg Optical-Mechanical Association LOMO [1]. The satellite’s customer was the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (GRU GS) of the Russian Armed Forces [2]. The spacecraft replaced the previous generation of Neman-type satellites.
    7. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 8 June 2013 18: 20 New
      0
      Well, it's good that it is classified. Although I am also curious.
  2. Edward72
    Edward72 8 June 2013 08: 28 New
    +4
    Well, not all of us need mere mortals to know, the most important thing is that they do their work.
  3. Yazov
    Yazov 8 June 2013 08: 47 New
    18
    Russia in space is catching up on what has been lost over the past 20 years! And it pleases.
  4. darksoul
    darksoul 8 June 2013 09: 21 New
    +2
    The news is good, but the amount is really cosmic ... I hope the union took to the sky a filling really worth the money and not money down the drain
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 8 June 2013 10: 36 New
      +7
      Quote: darksoul
      The news is good, but the amount is really cosmic ... I hope the union took to the sky a filling really worth the money and not money down the drain

      The amount is normal. For comparison. An American military satellite is an extremely expensive pleasure. Its cost is from 500 million to 1,5 billion dollars, and it lives for a maximum of 5-7 years, excluding the cost of the carrier and the cost of launching.
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 June 2013 09: 23 New
    +5
    Oh Cosmos .. very expensive of course and does not pay off quickly .. and yet we are a Cosmic nation! The first satellite of Yurku Gagarin was sent to space .. the first space station .. Intelligent and talented people lived in our country !!! Let us not let them down men ..
    1. karbofos
      karbofos 8 June 2013 15: 17 New
      +3
      MIKHAN just not Yurku Gagarin and Yuri Gagarin.
      here Dima Medvedev can write hi
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 9 June 2013 02: 11 New
        0
        It depends on age, I think so.
  6. nokki
    nokki 8 June 2013 10: 32 New
    12
    The Americans do not whine something, having spent, for example, 224 billion dollars on their large-sized satellite USA-49, also known as NRO Launch 49 (NRO L-2). Because they understand that without the means of space reconnaissance and target designation in a modern war - krants!
  7. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 June 2013 10: 44 New
    +7
    They should not spare money on such a good thing as maintaining a military space group. The current world order (or rather disorder) is forcing Russia to make the most of space. I do not understand some of the "critical" comments of some opponents. What happened to the reconciliation with the West? No matter how! These are sleeping and seeing where else to tidy up our country. So don’t mess, gentlemen!
  8. Skipper
    Skipper 8 June 2013 10: 47 New
    -3
    “Either this year, or next, such a device will fly. The state gets eyes and ears. The industry undertakes to manufacture these devices regularly, ”the deputy head of Roskosmos noted.
    This is the sadness “regularly”, the trouble of our companions, unlike the bourgeois ones, is their service life of 3-5 years and last. At vrazhin up to 14 years of service at some space objects. Is it really impossible to create / copy / remove a normal battery :) ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 8 June 2013 13: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Skipper
      the trouble of our companions, unlike the bourgeois ones, is their service life of 3-5 years and last. At vrazhin under 14 years of age, service at some space objects


      After 5 years, the generation of devices will change. The satellite cannot be upgraded or upgraded.
      How many old but working cell phones are lying around in your house (I already have a "museum").
      1. Skipper
        Skipper 8 June 2013 19: 29 New
        +1
        Very incorrect comparison.
        Z.Y. I did not expect reflections on this topic to deserve a minus
        1. El13
          El13 9 June 2013 13: 16 New
          +1
          Not the thoughts on this topic deserve the minus, but the lack of reflection ... well, at the same time, all the posts where they complain about the minuses :)
  9. cartridge
    cartridge 8 June 2013 11: 21 New
    +7
    All those involved in the production and launch of the carrier and satellite, with all my heart with a successful launch into orbit!
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 June 2013 11: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: Skipper
    “Either this year, or next, such a device will fly. The state gets eyes and ears. The industry undertakes to manufacture these devices regularly, ”the deputy head of Roskosmos noted.
    This is the sadness “regularly”, the trouble of our companions, unlike the bourgeois ones, is their service life of 3-5 years and last. At vrazhin up to 14 years of service at some space objects. Is it really impossible to create / copy / remove a normal battery :) ...

    Yes, everything will be with us .. we need time .. we have huge potential .. Not all of us squandered .. there is a stash. Something .. "bourgeois" boiling water pi ... they will be envy .. Everything will be fine .. )))
  11. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 8 June 2013 11: 57 New
    +6
    The news is wonderful and surprising, in the sense that they "steal", but there is enough money for rearmament: they build ships, and create new tanks, and even space reconnaissance and targeting satellites are built and launched on a modern elemental base, and all this is done hands and minds of our compatriots, which means that the country lives and develops, despite the fact that the competent authorities are stealing, let the alarmists be nervous because we, the Country, do a lot.
  12. Alexey M
    Alexey M 8 June 2013 12: 07 New
    +5
    The man’s position is fantastic head of the spaceport straight Kir Buchev And Strugatsky conquered. And so a good thing more launches comrade boss.
    1. Army1
      Army1 8 June 2013 13: 46 New
      +2
      The news is good, but still less needs to be said, tales that the Cold War ended and we and our beloved overseas friends should really tell each other tales. Previously, no one spoke about the launches of such devices.
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 9 June 2013 02: 14 New
      +1
      more SUCCESSFUL starts
  13. satellite
    satellite 8 June 2013 12: 09 New
    -3
    You interestingly argue, “Well, don’t get the hell out of the money, you’ve completed the task”, here’s our mentality, let them steal the same good, but the fact that your son has nowhere to play football on the drum and you don’t know how these things are connected
  14. individual
    individual 8 June 2013 12: 23 New
    +4
    Release Soyuz-2-16 these are the eyes and ears of the Russian defense department.
    The launch program will continue.
    For full coverage and review do not spare money!
  15. Brummbar
    Brummbar 8 June 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    Finally, everything began to fly as it should. Tfu tfu that would not jinx it.
  16. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 June 2013 13: 15 New
    +4
    Quote: satelite
    р

    They steal the fuckers pancake .. (it's hard to keep track of ..) .. then we’ll take it with interest on anyone .. where do they get from the planet .. (they read us here .. and shake their assets ..)))
  17. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 8 June 2013 13: 43 New
    +2
    10 billion is the cost of the satellite itself plus the cost of the rocket plus the cost of launch. So the satellite itself costs less than 10 billion.
  18. Vladomir
    Vladomir 8 June 2013 14: 01 New
    +2
    Russia is slowly but surely reaching its previously lost space lines. Good luck to everyone involved in this noble cause!
  19. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 June 2013 14: 07 New
    +3
    The avaricious pays twice, and in space the coefficient is even higher.
    Quote: Genry
    The satellite cannot be upgraded or upgraded.

    I think this is a matter for the near future. ISS upgrade now, flew up the block took out the block set. The head of the Cosmodrome of success, and so that everything is top!
  20. Rezun
    Rezun 8 June 2013 16: 35 New
    0
    “I will give out a little secret, this launch costs about 10 billion rubles,” Shilov told RIA Novosti.
    He would have to cut his tongue so that he wouldn’t give out anything else. You can calculate a lot according to the ruble / byte ratio.
  21. tomich
    tomich 8 June 2013 17: 19 New
    -6
    buy a military shogu let them play, as this is all za lo, military log breakers are something, you have to communicate at work, without comment ...
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 8 June 2013 19: 40 New
      +3
      Learn how to work, not hack.
    2. El13
      El13 9 June 2013 13: 23 New
      +1
      And you try not to work, but to serve ... and also the risk, which is much less at work than at work, it’s easy to reason from a warm chair.
  22. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 8 June 2013 19: 46 New
    +3
    People, have you seen a satellite for a long time? Get off the ground, look at the sky! It is beautiful there! And every morning and every night you can see the satellites. And there are also stars that the founders of astronautics dreamed of achieving. We drowned in pragmatism, forgotten how to dream ((
    1. Know-nothing
      8 June 2013 21: 49 New
      +2
      For clarity, an old picture
  23. uizik
    uizik 8 June 2013 22: 06 New
    +2
    Intelligence is never cheap!
  24. KononAV
    KononAV 9 June 2013 00: 56 New
    0
    Go Russia.
  25. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 9 June 2013 11: 38 New
    +3
    Dear visitors. Why this site was created to discuss military news, weapons, etc. For questions about cuts and delays in all polymers, please contact Navalny.
  26. Fedor
    Fedor 9 June 2013 15: 58 New
    +2
    Colonels are already commanding spaceports. Hmm. When I served there, Plesetskiy was commanded by Lieutenant General (Alpaidze).