Precision Ukrainian rifle Zbroyar .458 SOCOM

Large-caliber special silent rifle Zbroyar .458 SOCOM developed by Ukrainian private armory the company "Zbroyar", which is located near Kiev. It was created under the American ammunition .458 SOCOM, a military version of which was created on the basis of a hunting cartridge. The rifle in concept of its use is somewhat similar to the Russian 6C8 VKS / VSSK “Exhaust” rifle.

The cartridge has a high stopping power, so the rifle can also be used in police operations. Used shop American version of the rifle AR-15, also created under this cartridge. Recharging is manual, the slide is longitudinally sliding, the locking is done by setting the slide on three lugs in its front part. The total length of the rifle without a silencer is 840 mm.

There are three versions of the .458 SOCOM cartridge: with a bullet weighing 16 grams and an initial speed of 609 m / s, with a bullet weighing 19 grams and an initial speed of 580 m / s and with a bullet weighing 39 grams and an initial speed of 304 m / s. There is no information whether this weapon can be used without a silencer and in this case all types of cartridges can be used in it or does this rifle use only the latest version of the cartridge with a heavy subsonic bullet, where the relatively low speed of the bullet is compensated by its large mass.

Comments

[Akim]

It was created under the American ammunition .458 SOCOM,

Did not know. Thank!

[Civil]

High precision Ukrainian rifle

thank you, laughed heartily))) let them not grease with fat)))
to produce good weapons is not to pour the last words on Russia

[viktorR]

You shouldn’t be so). The school is one Soviet. Although the Zbroyar office is private, I think the gunsmiths are not bad there. A lot of things in such bolts depend on the material and the quality of processing. I suppose it is not known what they make trunks on and how.

[Akim]

Quote: viktorR

I suppose it is not known what they make trunks on and how.

Both "Zbroyar" and "Fort" bought their equipment in the Czech Republic. I don't know about durability. It is necessary to ask the cops. I have a Fort-10R, but I rarely shoot with it, even at banks.

[viktorR]

Thanks already I looked at what was purchased from the Czech Republic. In my opinion, with dignity ...

[Anti com]

What's so funny? To think that the "crest" cannot do something worthwhile is at least stupid ... The rifle is normal.

[Vital 33]

Yes, it's useless ... , this is one of those who KNOW that Ukraine cannot build anything worthwhile, and I am sure that only Russia can do "WITHOUT ANALOGUES IN THE WORLD !!!"
Thank God there are also normal people ...

[anton107798]

Quote: Civil

thanks, laughed heartily

said everything? laughed? well, don't forget to laugh at the engines you don't manufacture. and you buy from us, from MOTOR SICH. Just laugh at the fact that the "SATANA" rocket is being made here, and you are doing the repairs of the current ones yourself now without specialists and you are very complaining about this ...
you can go on and on ... in Thailand, your entire delegation laughed at losing the two largest tenders to Ukraine ... Laugh further ... we benefit

[orient]

You should first work on the spelling "asipki", and then boast that "... that the rocket" SATAN "is being made here ..." And also: "... you can go on and on ...". Maybe continue for at least a dozen positions? And let infinity remain in your imagination.

[black_eagle]

- all modifications of the R-27 rocket
- starting devices of type APU-470 for Su-30MKI and Su-34
- beam holders BDZ-USK-B for the same class of equipment
- AI-222-25 double-circuit turbojet engine for Yak-130
- D-436 for the Be-200
this is only for aviation, not to mention rocket and helicopter engines

[viktorR]

Well, I agree with almost everything, but the R-36M was not made by "us" but in the Soviet Union, and was made by the whole Union.

[Apostle]

"She was created under American ammunition ", I didn't even read further ... I was offended ...

[Akim]

Quote: Apostle

, I didn’t even read further ... offended ...

Do not be offended, but tell me. Maybe there is a good Russian ammunition? 9x19 - it seems also not native. but the Russian army is switching to it. And AK-102 under 5,56x45 First, look for the log in your eye.

[Wiruz]

The Russian 9x19 cartridge is very different from the NATO one. Another form of a bullet, more kinetic energy, as a result, penetration is better. And the AK-101 and AK-102 under 5,56x45 are produced purely for export and still have good demand.

[Akim]

Quote: Wiruz

Russian 9x19 cartridge is very different from NATO

These are all conventions. the Parabellum cartridge also has many bullet variations. In Ukraine, the army has not accepted the NATO caliber. Therefore, it is only the special forces of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs who have such a "miracle".
And the Russian army has already taken 9x19 into service. Before Ukrainian.
Although it’s right to take the best. It's just that someone has nothing to offend and build mental horror stories for themselves.

[Wiruz]

Well, what's wrong with that? Russian Lobaevka also runs on American "fuel". ВС-8 and Т-5000 are generally in Finnish. So what?

[DAOSS]

))))) no offense!
They stupid it, they wanted the Americans to like it, our deer for the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs hardly allocate salaries and food, and you ignore our product. And not only the military-industrial complex, but also Onishchenko, is busting yours)))) Here's the manufacturer and went looking for a client farther ...
But don’t worry, the amers will also beat us x .. and it will be an ordinary, good rifle for hunting in assortment-caliber.

[vanaheym]

This is a hunting rifle in a large caliber with a silencer, sold by permission for a rifle and manufactured to order. The .458SOCOM cartridges are legal in Ukraine, the only thing is the roads.

[O_RUS]

Quote: Apostle

"It was created for American ammunition", I did not even read further ... I was offended ...

Well, it's you in vain!
Ukraine does not make sense to release Zbroyar .458 SOCOM for Russian caliber
- Russia has 6C8 VKS / VSSK “Exhaust” and other developments, some of which have passed through Chechnya and have proven themselves

and Zbroyar is more like a "designer" - Russian school gunsmiths; someone else's optics; butt orthopedist - experience of third parties; A big plus is that new developments in Ukraine do not jam.

[vanaheym]

The top photo is actually a private rifle that was sold by a private person at forum.guns.ru. He did the coloring himself, the sight was a commercial Russian "Daedalus" of the 3rd generation

[mirag2]

It’s beautiful, only the initial speed of the bullet is low, probably to reduce the volume of the shot. Once such a low initial speed, it is probably intended for constant use with a silencer.

[bazilio]

An interesting sample. Well done Ukrainians. It turned out pretty well. Of course, a huge role is played by the quality of materials and workmanship. How things are with the quality of this rifle, time will tell.
About the cartridges.
"There are three variants of the .458 SOCOM cartridge: with a bullet weighing 16 grams and an initial speed of 609 m / s, with a bullet weighing 19 grams and an initial speed of 580 m / s and a bullet weighing 39 grams and an initial speed of 304 m / s." the first two cartridges are unlikely to work, since their supersonic flight speed negates the effect of the PBS. The last round is generally not bad, but the ogival shape of the bullet suggests that this bullet works well on unprotected "targets", but body armor may not be up to it.
Thanks to the author for the review

[luiswoo]

Quote: bazilio

The last round is generally not bad, but the ogival shape of the bullet suggests that this bullet works well on unprotected "targets", but body armor may be beyond her strength.

This is most likely a civilian option. With the nomenclature of .458 SOCOM everything is in order:

But it seems that even an armor-piercing bullet weighs less than the “normal” one at the Exhaust.

[bazilio]

A solid assortment. However, half of the bullets from this photo are for the police only, the military should not use EL, SJ (SMJ), HP bullets and all derivatives of these types of bullets, that is, bullet half-shell or without shell, with a flat nose or expansive bullets, are fragmented bullets.
But for spice specialists, such a variety is very useful

[vanaheym]

In the photo - a rifle for shooting various animals in private hunting grounds. Silent - so as not to annoy the livestock. In Ukraine, you can own and use silencers for individuals. If we talk about body armor, it’s not a fact that a person can withstand (even if the body armor is OK), if he receives a 30 gram fully copper bullet.

[Ivanovich47]

You can judge a sniper rifle (without bias) when the main performance characteristics are given. What an aiming range, accuracy. I think that using such a powerful rifle in police operations is too much. This is probably a special forces weapon (Airborne Forces, Army)

[Vital 33]

I saw a video (mine according to Discovery), there they showed the M-16 (M-4) converted for this cartridge, they are used at checkpoints and in guarding bases (at gates, towers) such as if someone breaks into the base by car, then it’s such a thing, you can stop the car by grinding the engine ... somehow, I don’t remember exactly.

[sashka]

So you have to wait for guests with a request for joint production. Ukraine is becoming like the Chinese)))

[O_RUS]

Quote: Sasha

Ukraine is becoming like the Chinese

it was necessary to survive

[Alexander D.]

You can laugh as much as you like, but it is necessary to take into account that there were no factories for the production of small arms in Ukraine - during the USSR, almost all "firearms" were produced in the RSFSR. And Zbroyar makes a fairly wide range of rifles http://zbroyar.com.ua/rifles.php. As a result, "may those, are, may be"

[jandjella]

It turns out interesting! Perhaps a normal sniper vinar can only do watch companies? Remember SVL Tsar Cannon or ORSIS T-5000 Plant Orsis?

[Alexander D.]

There are both + and - in private traders. The private trader will try to make the goods of high quality and competitive. The private trader is more flexible to the market and current trends. And "-" is that a private trader does not care to whom to sell - he needs to earn money.

[Wiruz]

First, how can a rifle with such a "dull" cartridge be highly accurate? (moreover, the sighting range is not indicated) And secondly: who there in Ukraine came up with the idea of ​​crossing the "Exhaust" and the CheyTac M200?

[Akim]

Quote: Wiruz

who in Ukraine came up with the idea to cross the "Exhaust" and the CheyTac M200?

And where did you see a hint of "Exhaust" in it? Analog doesn't mean copy. They don't smell there at all.

[bazilio]

Quote: Wiruz

First, how can a rifle with such a "dumb" cartridge be highly accurate? (and the aiming range is not indicated)

As much as he can. This special rifle is designed for silent, or rather low-noise shooting. The bullet of this rifle is subsonic (the use of supersonic is possible but makes no sense). At subsonic velocities of the bullet, the shape of its head is not as significant as for supersonic bullets. For subsonic bullets, the effect of "bottom suction" is more significant

[Wiruz]

Well ... Supersonic cartridges were also mentioned there ...

[vanaheym]

And nobody crossed this rifle with anything. And even more so, the M200 does not climb here in any way. For private and state orders, Zbroyar produces the Z-008 rifle for the .408 CheyTac caliber. This is one thing. The .458SOCOM cartridge was generally intended for semiautomatic devices based on the M-16 / AR-15. It is this rifle based on the same Z008 - private orders of Ukrainian citizens, intended for firing at distances up to 300 meters.

[APASUS]

It was created under American ammunition.

What is the news? If it will be delivered to America and even the Ukrainians themselves will most likely not see it!

[vanaheym]

She is on sale in Ukraine. Price - about $ 3500

[papik09]

Quote: Civil

High precision Ukrainian rifle

thank you, laughed heartily))) let them not grease with fat)))
to produce good weapons is not to pour the last words on Russia

Yes, it’s too late for an abortion.
It's not good to say that. On the contrary, one should be glad that there are craftsmen in Ukraine. For example, I am only "for" when new or improved types of weapons appear in Russia. So why are you "laughing" at our developments? This is not very good. Henceforth, think what you write.

[crush]

again copied the Russian rifle, as with the "Zubr". Of course, if your brains are not enough

[Akim]

Quote: crush

again copied the Russian rifle, as with the "Zubr"

You just need to fart. What do you see a copy of?

[Donetskiy]

Zbroyar z008

[Darkheir]

In any case, Ukrainians will produce few for themselves, and hardly anyone will buy them because there are many rifles in the world that exceed this

[Wiruz]

No offense to Ukraine will be said, but here the fact of the presence of a UKRAINIAN SNIPER and, moreover, a HIGH-PRECISION SCREW is important. And to produce a lot ... to sell to someone ... Why? She is like fat - you can not try it.

[Akim]

Quote: Wiruz

She is like fat - you can not try it.

Do not try lard - this is a perversion. I remember in Anapa in a pioneer camp with us was a Muscovite. He first tried bacon in the bazaar and then spent all his money on bacon and adjika.

[vanaheym]

Zbroyar rifles sell well in Europe and Russia. For example, in the same "Kolchuga". Naturally, those that correspond to the Russian ZOO.

[vanaheym]

In our country - take, buy, shoot. This is a legal caliber. And the silencers are also OK. And the rifle in the first photo is generally private, pulled out of sale in the Ukrainian section of the Hansa.

[R.R.A.]

The arctic forearm is very reminiscent of ...

[vanaheym]

Butt - Magpul PRS, forend - milled and anodized aluminum