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Precision Ukrainian rifle Zbroyar .458 SOCOM

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Precision Ukrainian rifle Zbroyar .458 SOCOM



Large-caliber special silent rifle Zbroyar .458 SOCOM developed by Ukrainian private armory the company "Zbroyar", which is located near Kiev. It was created under the American ammunition .458 SOCOM, a military version of which was created on the basis of a hunting cartridge. The rifle in concept of its use is somewhat similar to the Russian 6C8 VKS / VSSK “Exhaust” rifle.

The cartridge has a high stopping power, so the rifle can also be used in police operations. Used shop American version of the rifle AR-15, also created under this cartridge. Recharging is manual, the slide is longitudinally sliding, the locking is done by setting the slide on three lugs in its front part. The total length of the rifle without a silencer is 840 mm.

There are three versions of the .458 SOCOM cartridge: with a bullet weighing 16 grams and an initial speed of 609 m / s, with a bullet weighing 19 grams and an initial speed of 580 m / s and with a bullet weighing 39 grams and an initial speed of 304 m / s. There is no information whether this weapon can be used without a silencer and in this case all types of cartridges can be used in it or does this rifle use only the latest version of the cartridge with a heavy subsonic bullet, where the relatively low speed of the bullet is compensated by its large mass.

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  1. Akim
    Akim 8 June 2013 09: 02 New
    +7
    It was created under the American ammunition .458 SOCOM,

    Did not know. Thank!
    1. Civil
      Civil 8 June 2013 11: 57 New
      -31
      High precision Ukrainian rifle


      thank you, laughed heartily))) let them not grease with fat)))
      to produce good weapons is not to pour the last words on Russia
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 8 June 2013 12: 07 New
        +6
        You shouldn’t be so). The school is one Soviet. Although the Zbroyar office is private, I think the gunsmiths are not bad there. A lot of things in such bolts depend on the material and the quality of processing. I suppose it is not known what they make trunks on and how.
        1. Akim
          Akim 8 June 2013 12: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: viktorR
          I suppose it is not known what they make trunks on and how.


          Both "Zbroyar" and "Fort" bought their equipment in the Czech Republic. I don't know about durability. It is necessary to ask the cops. I have a Fort-10R, but I rarely shoot with it, even at banks.
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 8 June 2013 16: 33 New
            0
            Thanks already I looked at what was purchased from the Czech Republic. In my opinion, with dignity ...
      2. Anti com
        Anti com 8 June 2013 12: 29 New
        19
        What's so funny? To think that the "crest" cannot do something worthwhile is at least stupid ... The rifle is normal.
        1. Vital 33
          Vital 33 8 June 2013 12: 42 New
          16
          Yes, it's useless ... laughing , this is one of those who KNOW that Ukraine cannot build anything worthwhile, and I am sure that only Russia can do "WITHOUT ANALOGUES IN THE WORLD !!!" lol
          Thank God there are also normal people ...
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      3. anton107798
        anton107798 8 June 2013 15: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: Civil
        thanks, laughed heartily



        said everything? laughed? well, don't forget to laugh at the engines you don't manufacture. and you buy from us, from MOTOR SICH. Just laugh at the fact that the "SATANA" rocket is being made here, and you are doing the repairs of the current ones yourself now without specialists and you are very complaining about this ...
        you can go on and on ... in Thailand, your entire delegation laughed at losing the two largest tenders to Ukraine ... Laugh further ... we benefit
        1. orient
          orient 8 June 2013 19: 26 New
          -1
          You should first work on the spelling "asipki", and then boast that "... that the rocket" SATAN "is being made here ..." And also: "... you can go on and on ...". Maybe continue for at least a dozen positions? And let infinity remain in your imagination.
          1. black_eagle
            black_eagle 8 June 2013 22: 11 New
            +6
            - all modifications of the R-27 rocket
            - starting devices of type APU-470 for Su-30MKI and Su-34
            - beam holders BDZ-USK-B for the same class of equipment
            - AI-222-25 double-circuit turbojet engine for Yak-130
            - D-436 for the Be-200
            this is only for aviation, not to mention rocket and helicopter engines
        2. viktorR
          viktorR 10 June 2013 11: 32 New
          +1
          Well, I agree with almost everything, but the R-36M was not made by "us" but in the Soviet Union, and was made by the whole Union.
    2. Apostle
      Apostle 8 June 2013 14: 05 New
      +2
      "She was created under American ammunition ", I didn't even read further ... I was offended ...
      1. Akim
        Akim 8 June 2013 14: 13 New
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        Quote: Apostle
        , I didn’t even read further ... offended ...

        Do not be offended, but tell me. Maybe there is a good Russian ammunition? 9x19 - it seems also not native. but the Russian army is switching to it. And AK-102 under 5,56x45 First, look for the log in your eye.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 8 June 2013 19: 03 New
          +3
          The Russian 9x19 cartridge is very different from the NATO one. Another form of a bullet, more kinetic energy, as a result, penetration is better. And the AK-101 and AK-102 under 5,56x45 are produced purely for export and still have good demand.
          1. Akim
            Akim 8 June 2013 19: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Wiruz
            Russian 9x19 cartridge is very different from NATO

            These are all conventions. the Parabellum cartridge also has many bullet variations. In Ukraine, the army has not accepted the NATO caliber. Therefore, it is only the special forces of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs who have such a "miracle".
            And the Russian army has already taken 9x19 into service. Before Ukrainian.
            Although it’s right to take the best. It's just that someone has nothing to offend and build mental horror stories for themselves.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 8 June 2013 19: 05 New
        +3
        Well, what's wrong with that? Russian Lobaevka also runs on American "fuel". ВС-8 and Т-5000 are generally in Finnish. So what?
      3. DAOSS
        DAOSS 9 June 2013 00: 29 New
        +3
        ))))) no offense!
        They stupid it, they wanted the Americans to like it, our deer for the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs hardly allocate salaries and food, and you ignore our product. And not only the military-industrial complex, but also Onishchenko, is busting yours)))) Here's the manufacturer and went looking for a client farther ...
        But don’t worry, the amers will also beat us x .. and it will be an ordinary, good rifle for hunting in assortment-caliber.
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 22 July 2013 03: 17 New
          0
          This is a hunting rifle in a large caliber with a silencer, sold by permission for a rifle and manufactured to order. The .458SOCOM cartridges are legal in Ukraine, the only thing is the roads.
      4. O_RUS
        O_RUS 9 June 2013 01: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Apostle
        "It was created for American ammunition", I did not even read further ... I was offended ...


        Well, it's you in vain! wink
        Ukraine does not make sense to release Zbroyar .458 SOCOM for Russian caliber
        - Russia has 6C8 VKS / VSSK “Exhaust” and other developments, some of which have passed through Chechnya and have proven themselves

        and Zbroyar is more like a "designer" - Russian school gunsmiths; someone else's optics; butt orthopedist - experience of third parties; A big plus is that new developments in Ukraine do not jam.
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 17 New
          0
          The top photo is actually a private rifle that was sold by a private person at forum.guns.ru. He did the coloring himself, the sight was a commercial Russian "Daedalus" of the 3rd generation
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 8 June 2013 10: 00 New
    +3
    It’s beautiful, only the initial speed of the bullet is low, probably to reduce the volume of the shot. Once such a low initial speed, it is probably intended for constant use with a silencer.
  3. bazilio
    bazilio 8 June 2013 10: 21 New
    +5
    An interesting sample. Well done Ukrainians. It turned out pretty well. Of course, a huge role is played by the quality of materials and workmanship. How things are with the quality of this rifle, time will tell.
    About the cartridges.
    "There are three variants of the .458 SOCOM cartridge: with a bullet weighing 16 grams and an initial speed of 609 m / s, with a bullet weighing 19 grams and an initial speed of 580 m / s and a bullet weighing 39 grams and an initial speed of 304 m / s." the first two cartridges are unlikely to work, since their supersonic flight speed negates the effect of the PBS. The last round is generally not bad, but the ogival shape of the bullet suggests that this bullet works well on unprotected "targets", but body armor may not be up to it.
    Thanks to the author for the review
    1. luiswoo
      luiswoo 8 June 2013 11: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: bazilio
      The last round is generally not bad, but the ogival shape of the bullet suggests that this bullet works well on unprotected "targets", but body armor may be beyond her strength.

      This is most likely a civilian option. With the nomenclature of .458 SOCOM everything is in order:

      But it seems that even an armor-piercing bullet weighs less than the “normal” one at the Exhaust.
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 10 June 2013 09: 50 New
        0
        A solid assortment. However, half of the bullets from this photo are for the police only, the military should not use EL, SJ (SMJ), HP bullets and all derivatives of these types of bullets, that is, bullet half-shell or without shell, with a flat nose or expansive bullets, are fragmented bullets.
        But for spice specialists, such a variety is very useful
      2. vanaheym
        vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 21 New
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        In the photo - a rifle for shooting various animals in private hunting grounds. Silent - so as not to annoy the livestock. In Ukraine, you can own and use silencers for individuals. If we talk about body armor, it’s not a fact that a person can withstand (even if the body armor is OK), if he receives a 30 gram fully copper bullet.
  4. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 June 2013 13: 41 New
    +2
    You can judge a sniper rifle (without bias) when the main performance characteristics are given. What an aiming range, accuracy. I think that using such a powerful rifle in police operations is too much. This is probably a special forces weapon (Airborne Forces, Army)
  5. Vital 33
    Vital 33 8 June 2013 14: 35 New
    +1
    I saw a video (mine according to Discovery), there they showed the M-16 (M-4) converted for this cartridge, they are used at checkpoints and in guarding bases (at gates, towers) such as if someone breaks into the base by car, then it’s such a thing, you can stop the car by grinding the engine ... somehow, I don’t remember exactly.
  6. sashka
    sashka 8 June 2013 15: 32 New
    -6
    So you have to wait for guests with a request for joint production. Ukraine is becoming like the Chinese)))
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 24 September 2013 08: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      Ukraine is becoming like the Chinese


      it was necessary to survive
  7. Alexander D.
    8 June 2013 18: 07 New
    +3
    You can laugh as much as you like, but it is necessary to take into account that there were no factories for the production of small arms in Ukraine - during the USSR, almost all "firearms" were produced in the RSFSR. And Zbroyar makes a fairly wide range of rifles http://zbroyar.com.ua/rifles.php. As a result, "may those, are, may be"
  8. jandjella
    jandjella 8 June 2013 18: 19 New
    +2
    It turns out interesting! Perhaps a normal sniper vinar can only do watch companies? Remember SVL Tsar Cannon or ORSIS T-5000 Plant Orsis?
    1. Alexander D.
      8 June 2013 20: 44 New
      +2
      There are both + and - in private traders. The private trader will try to make the goods of high quality and competitive. The private trader is more flexible to the market and current trends. And "-" is that a private trader does not care to whom to sell - he needs to earn money.
  9. Wiruz
    Wiruz 8 June 2013 18: 37 New
    -1
    First, how can a rifle with such a "dull" cartridge be highly accurate? (moreover, the sighting range is not indicated) And secondly: who there in Ukraine came up with the idea of ​​crossing the "Exhaust" and the CheyTac M200?
    1. Akim
      Akim 8 June 2013 20: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      who in Ukraine came up with the idea to cross the "Exhaust" and the CheyTac M200?

      And where did you see a hint of "Exhaust" in it? Analog doesn't mean copy. They don't smell there at all.
    2. bazilio
      bazilio 10 June 2013 10: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      First, how can a rifle with such a "dumb" cartridge be highly accurate? (and the aiming range is not indicated)


      As much as he can. This special rifle is designed for silent, or rather low-noise shooting. The bullet of this rifle is subsonic (the use of supersonic is possible but makes no sense). At subsonic velocities of the bullet, the shape of its head is not as significant as for supersonic bullets. For subsonic bullets, the effect of "bottom suction" is more significant
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 13 June 2013 19: 24 New
        0
        Well ... Supersonic cartridges were also mentioned there ...
    3. vanaheym
      vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 27 New
      0
      And nobody crossed this rifle with anything. And even more so, the M200 does not climb here in any way. For private and state orders, Zbroyar produces the Z-008 rifle for the .408 CheyTac caliber. This is one thing. The .458SOCOM cartridge was generally intended for semiautomatic devices based on the M-16 / AR-15. It is this rifle based on the same Z008 - private orders of Ukrainian citizens, intended for firing at distances up to 300 meters.
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 8 June 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    It was created under American ammunition.

    What is the news? If it will be delivered to America and even the Ukrainians themselves will most likely not see it!
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 28 New
      0
      She is on sale in Ukraine. Price - about $ 3500
  11. papik09
    papik09 9 June 2013 06: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    High precision Ukrainian rifle


    thank you, laughed heartily))) let them not grease with fat)))
    to produce good weapons is not to pour the last words on Russia


    Yes, it’s too late for an abortion.
    It's not good to say that. On the contrary, one should be glad that there are craftsmen in Ukraine. For example, I am only "for" when new or improved types of weapons appear in Russia. So why are you "laughing" at our developments? This is not very good. Henceforth, think what you write. am
  12. crush
    crush 9 June 2013 10: 56 New
    0
    again copied the Russian rifle, as with the "Zubr". Of course, if your brains are not enough
    1. Akim
      Akim 9 June 2013 11: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: crush
      again copied the Russian rifle, as with the "Zubr"

      You just need to fart. What do you see a copy of?
  13. Donetskiy
    Donetskiy 9 June 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    Zbroyar z008
  14. Darkheir
    Darkheir 9 June 2013 16: 01 New
    +2
    In any case, Ukrainians will produce few for themselves, and hardly anyone will buy them because there are many rifles in the world that exceed this
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 14 June 2013 19: 02 New
      0
      No offense to Ukraine will be said, but here the fact of the presence of a UKRAINIAN SNIPER and, moreover, a HIGH-PRECISION SCREW is important. And to produce a lot ... to sell to someone ... Why? She is like fat - you can not try it.
      1. Akim
        Akim 15 June 2013 08: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: Wiruz
        She is like fat - you can not try it.

        Do not try lard - this is a perversion. fellow I remember in Anapa in a pioneer camp with us was a Muscovite. He first tried bacon in the bazaar and then spent all his money on bacon and adjika.
      2. vanaheym
        vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 30 New
        0
        Zbroyar rifles sell well in Europe and Russia. For example, in the same "Kolchuga". Naturally, those that correspond to the Russian ZOO.
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    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 32 New
      0
      In our country - take, buy, shoot. This is a legal caliber. And the silencers are also OK. And the rifle in the first photo is generally private, pulled out of sale in the Ukrainian section of the Hansa.
  16. R.R.A.
    R.R.A. 20 June 2013 19: 10 New
    +1
    The arctic forearm is very reminiscent of ...
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 22 July 2013 00: 33 New
      +1
      Butt - Magpul PRS, forend - milled and anodized aluminum