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Israel’s Secret Pact with Arab Neighbors

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Israel’s Secret Pact with Arab Neighbors



For over a decade, Israel has been building relationships (often in secret) with its neighbors, especially with Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Despite decades of propaganda of hatred towards Israel, in these countries making it difficult to conduct open negotiations, the growing threat of Iran’s nuclear weapons made Israel an attractive ally for Sunni states in front of threatening Shiite Iran. Currently, the US is trying to act as a mediator for the creation of a secret military alliance with the participation of Israel, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. This alliance will include providing Israel with access to data from Arab and Turkish radar stations near Iran, also providing these countries with data from Israeli rocket attack early warning systems. There is also an agreement that Israel can participate in the defense of its new allies in the event of an Iranian attack. Finally, the fact that Israel is a nuclear power, and as soon as this proposed alliance is revealed (even if officially denied everything), Iran will have to worry about Israeli retaliation, even if only the Arab states of the Persian Gulf and Turkey are subjected to an Iranian attack.

Coordination of the details of this union is the easy part, but the reporting of its existence to the public and its full implementation can be a problem. Arab governments have officially demonized Israel for so long that a significant portion (probably still the majority) of their population will instinctively react violently to the official announcement of an alliance with Israel. Thus, some diplomats involved in the creation of this union propose to keep it secret. This is not a new concept, such secret alliances have been created for thousands of years. However, in the age of the Internet and the operational and ubiquitous global media, such transactions can have the consequences of an explosion when they are publicized and today they are difficult to keep secret. The details of the proposed union will be announced when it is necessary, for example, during a crisis with Iran. At this moment, the fear of Iran will calm many Arabs, who at another time would take to the streets to protest vigorously against any deals with Israel.

This kind of deal is not new. Israel has formal and informal agreements with all of these countries over the years. Jordan was quite open about its security and intelligence agreements with Israel more than 30 years ago. Informal intelligence sharing has become more accepted over the past two decades. The reason for this was the growing threat of Islamic terrorism, although before the 1990-ies the Arabs were more associated with secular Muslim terrorists. But they were largely replaced by religious fanatics, who still enjoy no small unofficial support (money and sympathy) of Arabia, where the most modern Islamic radicalism has been developed and promoted over the centuries. Many educated and enterprising Arabs would also like to gain access to the Israeli market (goods, technology, and joint ventures). However, the Arabs must first overcome their anti-Semitism.

Despite the new Islamic government, Egypt restricts access to Gaza as much, if not more, like the former government (Mubarak) and often in cooperation with Israel. The main problem is that Gaza has become a haven for all sorts of Islamic terrorist groups, including some who consider the relatively moderate by their measures the Islamic government of Egypt to be their enemy (for something that is not radical enough).

Palestinian terrorists continue to try to attack the territory of Israel. Hamas activists are increasingly common among Palestinians arrested (by the Israeli police) in the West Bank. This led to even more arrests of Hamas activists (by the Palestinian and Israeli police) in the West Bank. Hamas and Fatah are still unable to agree on a merger and the disturbing disunity of the Palestinians (2.5 million in the West Bank and 1.5 million in Gaza) continues.

Despite the fact that Israel is called (mainly in the Islamic media) a secret ally of Iran or the Syrian rebels (depending on whom to read), Israel could decide the outcome of the war in just a few days if Assad attacked from the air. Israel is concerned about the post-Assad government because of the possibility of Islamic terrorist groups coming to power. Nevertheless, there is nothing to expect from the victory of Assad, since as a result more pro-Iranian terrorists will find themselves on the border with Israel. This is a hopeless situation, and to be accused of supporting both sides is Israel’s smallest problem. Meanwhile, Iran supports terrorists, especially Lebanese Hezbollah, is becoming increasingly active in preparing and conducting more international terrorist operations. Iran is pumping its support for Assad, and the Assad forces are on the offensive. The rebels are likely to win, but it will take more time.
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  1. Strashila
    Strashila 10 June 2013 08: 37 New
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    Israel is ready to "be friends" even with the devil, for its own benefit. Syrian events confirm this ... what are the Arab countries ??? close cooperation with terrorists of all stripes of the same al-Qaeda.
    1. Inzhengr
      Inzhengr 10 June 2013 08: 43 New
      +4
      Israel could decide the outcome of the war in just a few days if Assad attacked from the air.

      Yeah, wait a bit, "three hundred" on the way. good
      1. faraon
        faraon 10 June 2013 09: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Engineering
        Israel could decide the outcome of the war in just a few days if Assad attacked from the air.

        Yeah, wait a bit, "three hundred" on the way. good

        But he didn’t do it. For one reason, because he doesn’t see this as an interest, 40 years of the cold world with Syria is better than constant problems with the rebels, who, even by their very essence, clearly cannot tell what they want. And all of them actions deny their "national liberation actions. Therefore, Israel does not act on any side."
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 10 June 2013 11: 13 New
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          Quote: faraon
          Israel does not stand on any side.

          That's right, Israel simply helps one side kill the other side as long as possible, and the longer it takes, the better for Israel, because both sides are equally hateful to them. Let the sides exhaust themselves by mutual destruction, weakening each other as much as possible, it’s fine Israel.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 11: 59 New
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            But this is a more or less true understanding of the situation, with the exception of "helps." Israel simply does not intervene.
            1. Denis_SF
              Denis_SF 10 June 2013 12: 27 New
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              Quote: Pimply
              But this is a more or less true understanding of the situation, with the exception of "helps." Israel simply does not intervene.

              If by “doesn’t interfere,” you mean “once again they are hovering planes in Damascus, suburbs and military depots”, then I agree with you, the policy of strict neutrality is simple!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 10 June 2013 12: 59 New
                -2
                Exactly. Because it’s really fucking flying in Damascus by airplanes, and not conducting a targeted operation to prevent the delivery of certain Hezbollah systems - you do not understand.
                1. Denis_SF
                  Denis_SF 10 June 2013 14: 51 New
                  +1
                  The destruction by the Israelis of a scientific military center in the suburbs of Damascus on January 31 clearly does not draw on a policy of non-intervention, doesn’t it seem so to you?
                  1. Professor
                    10 June 2013 14: 56 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Denis_SF
                    The destruction by the Israelis of a scientific military center in the suburbs of Damascus on January 31 clearly does not draw on a policy of non-intervention, doesn’t it seem so to you?

                    Can I see a photo of this "destroyed" center? And until now, only photos of the windows knocked out by the blast wave appeared in the building next to the destroyed air defense systems ... sad
                2. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 10 June 2013 20: 08 New
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                  Quote: Pimply
                  rather than conducting a targeted operation to prevent the delivery of certain Hezbollah systems - you do not understand

                  Or maybe a targeted operation to prevent the supply of Hezbollah is just an excuse to hover @ planes in Damascus? Everyone has their own truth. But is it an attack on a sovereign state? International law doesn’t apply to Israel?
          2. atalef
            atalef 10 June 2013 12: 01 New
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            Quote: revnagan
            .Let the parties exhaust themselves by mutual destruction, weakening each other as much as possible, this will perfectly suit Israel.

            of course. For me, so let Assad survive in this war, but the last
            1. Perch_xnumx
              Perch_xnumx 10 June 2013 14: 21 New
              +4
              of course. For me, so let Assad survive in this war, but the last
              And along the way, jihadists from Syria will slaughter Christians, will rob, rape according to fatwas. And all this Israel will consider the norm, and even support. Conclusion Israel rots and is extremely illegible. Or do you think that the wrath of God will not touch you, or the hand of God is not above you.
              And why do you think that you can spit on all the rules, and who will look at all this and do nothing, you think there is no adequate answer to your actions.
              1. Denis_SF
                Denis_SF 10 June 2013 15: 45 New
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                Quote: Perch_1
                of course. For me, so let Assad survive in this war, but the last
                And along the way, jihadists from Syria will slaughter Christians, will rob, rape according to fatwas. And all this Israel will consider the norm

                Oh dear, it’s bad you see God-chosen people. I will give some examples:
                1. Moses — known for leading the Israelites away from Egypt. The book of Exodus tells of ten executions, how the waters of the Red Sea parted, and how the ten commandments were received from God (including “do not kill”). The Israeli people roamed the desert for 40 years, most of this time the Israelis spent attacking other cities.
                After the victorious battle against the Midianites, Moses gave the order to kill all the male babies and all the women who knew the husband on the bed. All female children who did not recognize the husband should be left alive for themselves. That is, all the little girls in the cities of the Midianites were raped by order of the saint.
                2. Jehovah - became king of Israel as a result of the overthrow of King Joram. Jehovah tracked down and killed all the members of the royal family of Ioram - 70 people - and dumped their severed heads outside the city gates. Then he rode through the still living mother of Joram in his chariot.
                The new king was anointed by the prophet Elisha to reign. To refute the rumors that he worshiped Baal, Jehovah asked all the servants of Baal to make a rich sacrifice in his honor. People from all over the kingdom filled the huge temple of Baal, after which the army of Jehovah slaughtered all those gathered. God rewarded the king by promising that his descendants would be guaranteed to occupy the throne of Israel for four generations.
                3. Elisha - was a prophet who lived, according to assumptions, in the ninth century BC. e. Elisha performed many miracles, for example, returned the water to Jericho and resurrected the son of one woman, but there is one “miracle” that stands out from a number of his actions.
                Once the children laughed at the bald head of Elisha, for which the prophet cursed them and called upon their heads death punishment. Two bears came running at the call and tore the children to pieces. That is, the righteous prophet brutally killed 42 children, simply because they laughed at him.
                4. King David is perhaps the most righteous man in the Bible, even though he alone killed and robbed 200 men at the request of his wife. Cruelty often goes hand in hand with righteousness, and it is the righteous who begins the massacre.
                David with an army invaded neighboring lands and destroyed all men and women in the captured cities. The Bible does not indicate the reason for such an act, it is only known that they were “old inhabitants of the earth” - apparently, David destroyed the indigenous population.
                1. faraon
                  faraon 10 June 2013 16: 21 New
                  -5
                  Den7is, where did you read this nonsense, what kind of bible is it written in. Give a link. Sorry for ignorance but I have not heard of such an ancestor. What you say about Moses is complete nonsense. He doubted the power of B- and he did not enter the country with milk and honey, and the leash saw it.
                  Read the sources carefully, not the comments to them.
                  1. Denis_SF
                    Denis_SF 10 June 2013 22: 33 New
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                    Well, if you haven’t even heard of such a prophet, then how can you even lead a discussion and cast doubt on someone’s words calling them “bullshit” if you don’t own the question at all. “I don’t know anything, but it couldn’t be, simply because it couldn’t be” - it sounds something like this! In general, read at your leisure, not only children's editions of the Bible, to the very edge - the Internet will help you, dear.
        2. Gari
          Gari 10 June 2013 15: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: faraon
          but he didn’t do it. for one reason, because he doesn’t see this as an interest in 40 years of the cold world with Syria, it’s better than constant problems with the rebels, who, even by their very essence, clearly cannot tell what they want. And all of them actions deny their "national liberation actions. Therefore, Israel does not act on any side."

          Good afternoon, if I can express my point of view, I think it would be beneficial for Israel to be a neighbor to Syria, although not in a very warm relationship where Assad rules, than with those who seek his place, these unpredictable thugs are unlikely to be friends with Israel, yes and with other neighbors, by the way, until recently, the most peaceful place in Syria was precisely the border with Israel
    2. faraon
      faraon 10 June 2013 09: 08 New
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      And what can you offer? Israel is a small country. It is simply a vital necessity. A better cold world than a hot war.
      1. Egor.nic
        Egor.nic 10 June 2013 13: 36 New
        +4
        In order for there to be a good peace, neighbors should live in peace and not spoil each other ..... It is worth revising your foreign policy so that others will revise it towards you for the better .....
        As they say: -no smoke without fire.
    3. bazilio
      bazilio 10 June 2013 12: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      Israel is ready to "be friends" even with the devil, for its own benefit

      Damn it or not, but their situation is not enviable - a small territory, around potential enemies who consider the territory of Israel their own. You’ll be spinning around anyway
    4. Denis_SF
      Denis_SF 10 June 2013 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      Israel is ready to "be friends" even with the devil, for its own benefit. Syrian events confirm this ... what are the Arab countries ??? close cooperation with terrorists of all stripes of the same al-Qaeda.

      Yes, they are friends with the earthly representation of universal darkness, almost from the day the country was founded.
    5. knn54
      knn54 10 June 2013 19: 05 New
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      -Strashila: Israel is ready to "be friends" even with the devil, for its own benefit.
      Sheikh Abdul Palazzi Secretary General of the Italian Muslim Association, Imam of the Shafi School of Islamic Law and the Co-Chair of the Islamic-Israeli Commonwealth: Israel must take full control of the Middle East and part of the Middle East, severely suppress Wahhabism and support ALLIES among the Muslims it has IN THE FACE OF THE SUFIAN ORDERS.
      -faraon: Israel is not on any side.
      divide, DRAIN, and rule.
      -patron: In a historical perspective, Israel has no prospects.
      Kissinger and US intelligence: “In ten years, Israel will not be” (2012) ...
      Professor: Israeli apple producers ..
      ... grown in Druze gardens in the Golan Heights.
      Syrians apples, militants, too, but with a cumulative charge.
      1. Professor
        10 June 2013 21: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: knn54
        Kissinger and US intelligence: “In ten years, Israel will not be” (2012) ...

        Bullshit and the glitches of the dumbfounded junkies, Kissinger never said such a thing.
  2. Professor
    10 June 2013 08: 45 New
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    Quote: Strashila
    Syrian events confirm this ... what are the Arab countries ??? close cooperation with terrorists of all stripes of the same al-Qaeda.

    And where is the confirmation? Some fiction.

    Here is a confirmation of how Israel feeds Assad.
    The traditional supply of apples from Israel to Syria began
    Israeli apple producers again shipped a shipment of goods to Syria, despite the fighting unfolding in the Golan Heights, Kol Israel radio reported on June 9.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 10 June 2013 09: 46 New
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      Quote: Professor
      Traditional apple shipments began from Israel to Syria. Israeli apple producers again shipped a shipment of goods to Syria, despite the hostilities unfolding in the Golan Heights, Kohl Israel reported on June 9.


      Hello professor. Well this is a business of nothing personal. Syrians apples, militants weapons and medical care.

      And I have a question. GDP suggested sending the Russian peacekeeping contingent to replace the Austrians with the Golan. Is Israel for or against?
      1. Professor
        10 June 2013 09: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Syrians apples, militants weapons and medical care.

        Show the weapons supplied to the militants, I will answer any question. Medical assistance is provided to all those in need, including Assad soldiers!
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 10 June 2013 09: 58 New
          +9
          Quote: Professor
          Medical assistance is provided to all those in need, including Assad soldiers!


          Show at least one.

          As for weapons, special vehicles of the Israel Defense Forces can be found in the reports.

          Well, we can say that propaganda.

          You did not answer the question about the Golan.
          1. Sashatula
            Sashatula 10 June 2013 10: 06 New
            +2
            I also molested about the Golan yesterday, and I got the impression that, in principle, Israel is not against it, but they want to get a lot for it



            Israel gave Russia an answer to the proposal to deploy Russian peacekeepers in the Golan Heights, but does not want to advertise it, RIA Novosti said Israeli Foreign Minister Zeev Elkin before his visit to Moscow starting on Monday.

            РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20130610/942422994.html#ixzz2Vn6XnsU8
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 June 2013 10: 52 New
              +8
              Quote: SashaTula
              that, in principle, Israel does not mind, but they want to get a lot for it


              Israel will never do that. The GDP managed to strike one below the belt in two. Although a judoka. Israel Golan occupies illegally and voluntarily surrender them to ally Assad? And the SSA will howl from such a UN decision because the events of 2008 are alive in the brain when a battalion of peacekeepers connected an entire army with heavy equipment.

              I understand that this is a bluff statement. but the masks will fall off. Israel recognizes illegal occupation by rejecting the offer. SSA will strongly oppose. Western peacekeepers will once again show their insolvency, and the Americans again sculpt maz through the UN on this issue. And Assad is winning time. Time is now working for the Syrians.
              1. atalef
                atalef 10 June 2013 11: 43 New
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                Quote: vorobey
                Israel Golan occupies illegally

                the word occupation a priori does not imply legitimacy. We captured them in the war against Syria. (which Syria started) You can continue to cry about legality or not (the lot of the weak) What is conquered is sacred.
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 10 June 2013 11: 49 New
                  +5
                  Quote: atalef
                  What is conquered is sacred.


                  I will tag this catchphrase for myself.
                  And now I delve into the old comments where they frantically proved that Israel would not occupy the Golan.
                  1. Professor
                    10 June 2013 11: 58 New
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                    Quote: vorobey
                    I will tag this catchphrase for myself.
                    And now I delve into the old comments where they frantically proved that Israel would not occupy the Golan.

                    He certainly does not occupy - he liberated the Golan from the Syrian 20 and summer occupation. wink
                    In general, it sounds like this: What is taken is holy.
                    1. IRBIS
                      IRBIS 10 June 2013 17: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      What is taken is holy.

                      Something this excuse at the Nuremberg trials did not wipe ...
                      And so, in fact, the policy of double standards in Israel, in action.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 55 New
                        0
                        Syria in 1948 launched a war against Israel. Israel ended up being stronger than Syria thought. Therefore, she lost the territories that had been under her protectorate since the 40th year.
                      2. Professor
                        10 June 2013 21: 10 New
                        +1
                        Quote: IRBIS
                        Something this excuse at the Nuremberg trials did not wipe ...

                        We will not discuss Königsberg and the lands conquered from the Tatar-Mongol lands under their rule for hundreds of years.
                    2. Kirgudum
                      Kirgudum 11 June 2013 02: 01 New
                      0
                      So, you will have nothing against when Israel will be conquered?

                      he liberated the Golan from the Syrian 20-year occupation.
                      - troll? How can you occupy your territory?
                      By the way, the annexation of the Golan was invalidated by UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981. Why are you sneezing at UN decisions?
                  2. Chavy
                    Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 01 New
                    +4
                    Yes, let it be occupied, only then when the reckoning comes, let it be silent in a rag and not yell about the Holocaust. They also like to write arguments about the Russian pier, they once occupied the territory. Netushki, Russia gave protection, took weak nations under the protectorate. Now American propaganda in the republics is repeating about occupation and imposing nationalism on the indigenous population.
                2. Chavy
                  Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 00 New
                  +2
                  Israel started all 6 wars, not Arabs. Israel occupies the Golan illegally, the UN in the person of many states did not recognize this occupation and there is an appropriate document.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 10 June 2013 12: 18 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Chavy
                    Israel started all xnum wars

                    66 Wars. laughing
                  2. Rumata
                    Rumata 10 June 2013 12: 29 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Chavy
                    They also like to write arguments about the Russian pier, they once occupied the territory. Netushki, Russia gave protection, took weak nations under the protectorate.

                    What is the difference between the situation with the Kuril Islands and Kaliningrad and the Golan Heights? And in general, you need to return Kazan to Mongolia, they also conquered it !!
                    Quote: Chavy
                    Israel started all 6 wars, not Arabs

                    Ndya ... Shiz mowing our ranks. Israel just itself attacked the Arabs after independence, but then the representatives of the Jewish-Masonic lodge rewrote the story.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 10 June 2013 13: 05 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Rumata
                      Israel definitely attacked the Arabs

                      No, he attacked himself
                      laughing
                    2. builder
                      builder 10 June 2013 13: 42 New
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                      In general, you need to return Kazan to Mongolia, they also conquered it !!
                      What does Mongolia have to do with it? Kazan already belongs to Tatarstan (as part of the Russian Federation)
                    3. Thunderbolt
                      Thunderbolt 10 June 2013 13: 42 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Rumata
                      What is the difference between the situation with the Kuril Islands and Kaliningrad and the Golan Heights?
                      Germany and Japan signed the terms of surrender (this is documented --- Germany acts wisely and has no questions, and Japan is not independent in its claims (the United States is profitable), moreover, it is a good tool in Japanese domestic politics), the Golan is a disputed territory, and if the Israelis do not think so, then why do not they seek the withdrawal of peacekeepers from the lands legally belonging to it? The comparison is incorrect, but is constantly used in the forum (5 times I participated in discussions on this subject. We already got into fools to pretend to be fools ....... .Y. Up to a point, I foresee that you will answer this bully
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 57 New
                        +2
                        Peacekeepers are located in the buffer zone of demarcation, and not in all the Golan. BY MUTUAL CONSENT OF THE PARTIES
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 11 June 2013 08: 21 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        With precision to a comma I foresee that you will answer it

                        Due to the stupid restriction of 7 messages, I had to wait for a "rollback" =)
                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        Germany acts wisely

                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        Japan is not independent in its claims (USA is beneficial)

                        And then
                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        Golan - disputed territory

                        What is the difference between the Japanese attack, the defeat and loss of territories, and the attack of Syria, the defeat and loss of the Golan Heights? Technically, the Golan is annexed, since the war with Syria, in fact, did not end. But I do not see any differences between the situation with the Golan Heights and any other, similar cases of accession of territories during or after the war ...

                        Z.Y
                        Just think about it, the Golan Heights has been part of the government of Israel for 46 years (!!), Syria has owned them for 23 years.
                        Syria attacked, lost, lost territory, and they would soon have forgotten about this with any other country, but here the conversation about Israel, therefore they will probably not be forgotten in 200 years ...
                    4. zinander
                      zinander 10 June 2013 20: 48 New
                      +1
                      And Kazan once belonged to the Mongols? Well then, half of the country should be given to them ... learn history binary)))
                    5. Pimply
                      Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 56 New
                      0
                      The fact that this is Russia. Only this.
                3. Egor.nic
                  Egor.nic 10 June 2013 13: 40 New
                  -2
                  tuftology ....
                4. Uncle
                  Uncle 10 June 2013 14: 14 New
                  +3
                  Quote: atalef
                  You can continue to cry about the law or not (the lot of the weak) What is conquered is sacred.

                  Your words would be cast in bronze and demonstrated to the Japanese when they blather about the Kulil, the Germans in conversations about Koenigsberg, etc.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 58 New
                    +2
                    The state is the state. It defends its interests and, horror, often expands at the expense of foreign territories.
                5. alexkross83
                  alexkross83 10 June 2013 14: 52 New
                  0
                  I think that the geopolitical situation will change soon ... the presence of Russians at your side will be absolutely necessary. You will be friends with us ... made friends a little with the Sunnis and that's enough.
          2. Professor
            10 June 2013 10: 17 New
            -1
            Quote: vorobey
            Show at least one.

            The pimple will tighten and help with the link. I heard it on the radio.

            Quote: vorobey
            As for weapons, special vehicles of the Israel Defense Forces can be found in the reports.

            The car is really special. Such in AOI have not been around for a long time. I especially liked the special equipment and registration number which the stupid Israelis did not think of painting over.

            Quote: vorobey
            You did not answer the question about the Golan.

            Show the weapons supplied to the militants, I will answer any question. hi
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 10 June 2013 10: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              The car is really special.


              In my opinion, the Toyota 45 series cruiser, it had a military version, such a machine seemed to be used in the IDF
              1. Professor
                10 June 2013 10: 50 New
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                Quote: Vadivak
                In my opinion, the Toyota 45 series cruiser, it had a military version, such a machine seemed to be used in the IDF


                This is not TOYOTA, it is a locally produced Jeep mainly used in the territories.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 10 June 2013 12: 52 New
                  -4
                  This is Sufa 1. Israeli jeep. Only very old. Nonsense, that Israel supplied, substituting, army jeeps, with tzaddikami and other garbage. Yes, even with the inspection ticket for the year 2000.
              2. atalef
                atalef 10 June 2013 12: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Vadivak
                In my opinion, the Toyota 45 series cruiser, it had a military version, such a machine seemed to be used in the IDF

                SUV SUV (1). production of Israel (factory in Nazareth). The release of this modification was completed in 2001-2002.
                This is the 3 modification (released now)

                The first modification has not been in the IDF for a long time
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 10 June 2013 12: 48 New
              -1
              Quote: Professor
              The pimple will tighten and help with the link. I heard it on the radio.

              Here was somewhere in the review. Google search does not allow you to disaggregate by date, and crawling by article is a disastrous thing. Although I do not rule out errors - the link was to Mignews. However, why there are no questions - this is the likelihood of assistance
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 10 June 2013 12: 02 New
            -3
            Yeah. Ingenious. Israel, substituting for it, will supply the Suf with an army tzaddik, with a 2000 inspection ticket. Do you know how much of all Israeli equipment fell into Hezbollah’s hands in 2000, when Israel left Lebanon? Do not make me laugh. If deliveries were coming from Israel, the weapons would most likely be Soviet, from the seized stocks, since it’s unmeasured in warehouses.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 June 2013 12: 15 New
              +4
              Quote: Pimply
              If deliveries were coming from Israel, the weapons would most likely be Soviet, from the seized stocks, since it’s unmeasured in warehouses.


              Sometimes it’s very good to hide a lie behind the truth.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 10 June 2013 13: 01 New
                -3
                Lies repeated many times become true. Goebels
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 10 June 2013 15: 01 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Lies repeated many times become true. Goebels


                  Gold words. Then I see that everyone believes Assad a tyrant and SSA Democrats.

                  The truth will triumph over time if it also does that vile lie
                  To Vysotsky.

                  Will it only be true? although Zhenya forgot all your means are good.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 10 June 2013 20: 59 New
                    -1
                    Assad is a tyrant. SSA only here are not democrats at all.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 10 June 2013 11: 40 New
        -4
        Quote: vorobey
        And I have a question. GDP suggested sending the Russian peacekeeping contingent to replace the Austrians with the Golan. Is Israel for or against?

        Russia received Israel’s response to its proposal to send its observers to the demilitarized zone on the Golan Heights, Deputy Foreign Minister Zeev Elkin told RIA Novosti. However, the Israeli side does not want to publicize its position on this issue on the eve of Elkin’s visit to Moscow, which officially begins today, June 10.

        According to the deputy minister, the answer was transmitted in a telephone conversation between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 7. "The position of Israel was openly and clearly expressed during a conversation between the leaders of the two states. There are things that sometimes it is better to stay at this level," said Elkin.
    2. AK-47
      AK-47 10 June 2013 11: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      Israeli apple producers again shipped a shipment to Syria

      And go apples with a double bottom are either immune-modified or even worse ...
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 10 June 2013 11: 42 New
        -2
        Well, yes ... half the world eats fruits from Israel. How not dead yet)))
        1. AK-47
          AK-47 10 June 2013 14: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: il grand casino
          ..the world eat fruits from Israel.

          It's about Syria, and apples are a way of influencing, as in a fairy tale I tasted an apple and ..., or a "serpent tempter" slipped an apple to Eve and it turned out as he wanted.
  3. cartridge
    cartridge 10 June 2013 09: 07 New
    +4
    In a historical perspective, Israel has no prospects.
    It resembles a rubber doll, which is supported in an inflated condition only by American financial support. But Obama has repeatedly made it clear that for America this is becoming an increasingly burdensome burden. So shutting down the shtatovskogo pump is only a matter of time.
    And the loss of Jews in demography compared to the Arabs surrounding them makes the fate of Israel even more predictable.
    Yes, and the military power of Israel now less and less scares the Arabs. This clearly showed the defeat received by the Israeli army from Hezbollah during the July 2006 war in Lebanon.
    1. faraon
      faraon 10 June 2013 09: 22 New
      +4
      Dear Patron, you are deeply mistaken in your post regarding the inflatable doll. The question is, is that the entire reserve banking system of America can migrate to Israel, so that the states want or not to pump in the amount of 2 billion dollars per year. Otherwise there will be no states. Second America will never go to drain its ally of Israel, because Russia will immediately take its place. And as for dography, all this is nonsense. Israel is a springboard for NATO’s invasion of the Middle East. And it’s inadvisable to think of yourself What if yes. Israel has something to answer, it has nothing to lose. The Arab countries are well aware of this and therefore, even contrary to their ideology, they secretly enter into an alliance with Israel. This is not my prediction. This is life.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 10 June 2013 09: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: faraon
        Second America will never go to drain its ally

        Very controversial opinion ......
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 10 June 2013 11: 01 New
          +6
          Quote: ziqzaq
          Very controversial opinion ......


          I agree with Pharaoh. You can merge beautifully that no one will guess - looking at smoldering in the region and sometimes adding oil. Well, nothing that rockets will sometimes fall on an ally and buses explode. most importantly the American ass is full and warm. So ... somehow I think so.
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 10 June 2013 17: 10 New
        0
        Quote: faraon
        America's entire reserve banking system can migrate to Israel

        O_o And, as a result - the collapse of the US economy and the physical elimination of Israel by the United States ... wassat Tse bulo b good good May God grant to you, and to every Jew who shares your idea, good health, and every success in your much needed endeavor! laughing
    2. atalef
      atalef 10 June 2013 11: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: cartridge
      In a historical perspective, Israel has no prospects.

      You know about Israel and the Jews mention since the time when neither Russia, nor Rome, nor America was. All the empires of those years are gone and gone (together with the peoples who inhabited them), and the Jews survived as a people, language and faith. So what about the historical perspective, keep quiet
      Your vision does not include 1% of the time the Jews as a people existed.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 10 June 2013 14: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        All the empires of those years are gone and gone (together with the peoples who inhabited them), and the Jews survived as a people, language and faith. So what about the historical perspective, keep quiet

        Well, I just can’t be silent, remember, they told Christ, look, Lord, what buildings, what huge stones. Hinting at the inviolability of Israel. And he replied that there would be nothing left, stone on stone. In the photograph for the article, the Omar Mosque, a former Jewish temple, what remains of it? One wall! The Jews survived, but how many years your people were in exile, without their own state, like Agasfer, wandering around the world? So as they say in Russia, do not renounce the sum and the prison.
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 10 June 2013 22: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Uncle
          The Jews survived, but how many years your people were in exile, without their own state, like Agasfer, wandering around the world?

          In all fairness, not a single nation comes to my mind that after so many years of wandering has not dissolved in others.
      2. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 June 2013 17: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        You know about Israel and the Jews mention since the time when neither Russia, nor Rome, nor America was. All the empires of those years are gone and gone (together with the peoples who inhabited them), and the Jews survived as a people, language and faith. So what about the historical perspective, keep quiet

        This happened only because the history of other states and peoples was most often written by Jews! So events have sunk not knowing where. And the Jews not only survived, but even tried to transform the whole world for themselves. With the help of religions, money, etc. Well, it didn’t always work, but the result is impressive. But the reckoning will come anyway. You have to pay for everything - this also concerns the Jews ...
    3. atalef
      atalef 10 June 2013 12: 13 New
      0
      Quote: cartridge
      which only American financial support supports when inflated

      Yesterday I watched an interview with Chubais (accidentally hit the channel) He said that his dream was to bring foreign investment in Russian high technologies at least
      to level 5 billion per year.
      So for example (only 2 of many) since the beginning of this year. ISKAR company (1200 employees) (bought Buffett) - 10bn. dollars, application <WAZE> buys Google 1.5 billion - works in the company 45 people. (one of the most expensive applications in the world).
      And you can go on and on.
      First, get to our high-tech level, and then we'll talk.
    4. Pimply
      Pimply 10 June 2013 12: 53 New
      -2
      This has been said for 65 years.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 10 June 2013 14: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        This has been said for 65 years.

        Well, why are you spiteful, Zhenechka, you yourself know perfectly well that both the Union and Russia have something to brag about.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 10 June 2013 21: 00 New
          0
          But where am I spiteful, Dimochka. I myself am kindness and charm.
  4. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 09: 35 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    And where is the confirmation? Some fiction.

    Here is a confirmation of how Israel feeds Assad.
    The traditional supply of apples from Israel to Syria began
    Israeli apple producers again shipped a shipment of goods to Syria, despite the fighting unfolding in the Golan Heights, Kol Israel radio reported on June 9.

    Do you know whom you remind me wink soldier in the army. When he nakosyachit and they hold him by the hand, he is silent with a drooping head but with maliciously cunning eyes. As soon as his hand is released, he with honest eyes says ... no ... I'm not me and not my horse. smile The fact that Israel is not participating in the Syrian conflict with a dream or even in general in the Middle East politics will probably be believed only by a hydrocephalus. And you are all straight from yourself bunnies. And you don’t deliver weapons (your favorite incarnation is “examples in the studio”, although there have already been plenty of them) Yes, you are a small but arrogant state that has become too full of impunity. But as they say how much the rope does not curl ..... I am not an anti-Semite, but your seal has REACHED !!!!
    1. Professor
      10 June 2013 09: 51 New
      -1
      Quote: Boricello
      (your favorite “examples in studio” spinning, although there have already been plenty of them)

      You wouldn’t write so many letters, but you would show these “examples” of Israeli-made Lau rocket launchers. wink Let's laugh together.

      Here it is Israeli weapons "delivered" to militants laughing


      But where did they actually get the weapon?


  5. Sashatula
    Sashatula 10 June 2013 09: 46 New
    +4
    Arab countries enter into alliance treaties with Israel Oh my god, a contract usually implies mutual trust, but here who believes whom? Or do I have a Russian mentality like this - since they became friends, they won’t throw it?
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 10 June 2013 09: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: SashaTula
      Arab countries enter into alliance treaties with Israel


      Well, this is the law of nature - have your neighbor; for the far one will draw near and have you.
    2. atalef
      atalef 10 June 2013 11: 49 New
      -2
      Quote: SashaTula
      slave countries conclude agreements on alliance with Israel, my God, the agreement usually implies mutual trust, but who trusts anyone here?

      here I am about believing Assad ???
      Marvel
  6. Sashatula
    Sashatula 10 June 2013 09: 57 New
    0
    Many educated and entrepreneurial Arabs would also like to gain access to the Israeli market (goods, technologies and joint ventures).


    Professor, how is this consistent with your minus in my comment on "Made in Israel"
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  8. faraon
    faraon 10 June 2013 10: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: SashaTula
    Arab countries enter into alliance treaties with Israel Oh my god, a contract usually implies mutual trust, but here who believes whom? Or do I have a Russian mentality like this - since they became friends, they won’t throw it?

    Sasha, change your mentality if you intend to fight with the East, there are no agreements, but only a position of strength. For now, while you are strong or position yourself with a strong ally, you are in authority, and as soon as you give up slack it’s a bail. East is thin
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  10. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 10: 14 New
    +6
    Well Professor, well amused laughing . Your comment once again confirms my words about a soldier in the army. And I think that it is much easier for Israel to fight and compete in the Middle East with the same Hezbola and other groups, which in essence will not possess the power of the state than with the same Syria, and even in alliance with Iran. I think that it is precisely in order to destroy this alliance (consider a competitor) that Israel supports all this mess in Syria. Judging by the recent actions of Assad, he also had good military advisers. Too abruptly, hostilities changed their owl style. It seems that the current operation was not planned at Assad’s headquarters. And tactically and strategically, hostilities are different from everything that was before.
    1. Professor
      10 June 2013 10: 27 New
      -3
      Quote: Boricello
      Your comment once again confirms my words about a soldier in the army

      Link to the soundtrack will suit you?

      Quote: Boricello
      Judging by the recent actions of Assad, he also had good military advisers.

      He does not even hide this - the Shiite terrorist group Hezbollah is engaged in sweeping operations with the support of Assad artillery and aircraft. It is difficult to say how successful it is, but shouting “to raise morale” urgently increased compensation to the Shaid families to $ 50k.
  11. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 10: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    He does not even hide this - the Shiite terrorist group Hezbollah is engaged in sweeping operations with the support of Assad artillery and aircraft. It is difficult to say how successful it is, but shouting “to raise morale” urgently increased compensation to the Shaid families to $ 50k.

    Well, yes, yes, it was Hezbollah who helped to plan and conduct the army operation. It was at the headquarters of Nasrallah that competent officers of the headquarters were able to carry out the operation and interaction of all the armed forces, etc. laughing
    1. Professor
      10 June 2013 10: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Boricello
      Well, yes, yes, it was Hezbollah who helped to plan and conduct the army operation. It was at the headquarters of Nasrallah that competent officers of the headquarters were able to carry out the operation and interaction of all the armed forces, etc.

      Really in Tel Aviv again? wink

      PS
      It is customary to respond to the current comment, and not open a new one.
  12. faraon
    faraon 10 June 2013 10: 45 New
    -1
    Quote: ziqzaq
    Quote: faraon
    Second America will never go to drain its ally

    Very controversial opinion ......

    Why? It won’t even follow the principle. As soon as Israel merges, Russia will take its place, then the end of American expansion in the Middle East. Look deep down This is a section of the world
    1. 755962
      755962 10 June 2013 11: 02 New
      +3
      Maybe how to know ...
      USA betrayed Israel a little more

      Israel accused the United States of having committed treason at the state level in favor of commercial interests. Wishing to attract private companies through a tender, Washington posted secret documents on the construction of a new missile base in Tel Shahar in the public domain.
      According to the British publication The Times, a source in the Israeli military leadership called the American publication "shocking." From a military point of view, the information posted is quite enough for the enemy to carry out an attack on a future base. This jeopardizes the entire project, notes McClatchydc.com. Whether construction plans will now be changed, the source did not report.


      http://www.jacta.ru/world/article/?id=1380

      Commenting on the US disclosure of information about the Israeli military base, expert Alexander Serebryakov recalled that under Barack Obama, relations between the two countries have noticeably worsened. "Today, on a number of important issues, the US takes a pro-Palestinian or pro-Arab rather than pro-Israeli position. This is primarily due to the fact that the so-called" Jewish "lobby, which is traditionally dominant in the USA, is giving way to Islamic lobby and capital. Thus, it’s likely that the leak was not an accident or the result of someone’s disregarding attitude, but a planned information diversion, ”he says.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 June 2013 11: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: 755962
        USA betrayed Israel a little more

        .
        Quote: 755962
        that traditionally dominant in the United States is the so-called the "Jewish" lobby gives way to the Islamic lobby and capital. Thus, it is likely that the information leak was not an accident or the result of someone’s disregarding attitude, but a planned information diversion, "he says.


        “Well, godfather, are you eating Vareniki?”
        -Oy I eat kumets, with cherries, go in before mene dine.
        “So tebe won Sirko untied runs around.”
        -So otozh
  13. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 10: 56 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Really in Tel Aviv again? wink

    And why in Tel Aviv? laughing And do you, as in that song, think that: “A white light has come upon you like a wedge” Or can only the Israeli military fight? wink
    1. Professor
      10 June 2013 11: 01 New
      -1
      I understood everything, in Astana. wassat I have the honor and I won’t bother. hi
  14. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 11: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    I understood everything, in Astana. wassat I have the honor and I will not bother.

    Well, you’re just like that card sharpler. Although I live in Kazakhstan, I am also Russian by nationality and spirit in the full sense of the word, or even a citizen of the USSR. In general, I respect you professor, I do not jerk, but the truth. But often you really distort or intentionally do not notice the obvious things.
  15. report4
    report4 10 June 2013 11: 12 New
    +2
    Quote: Boricello
    Quote: Professor
    Really in Tel Aviv again? wink

    And why in Tel Aviv? laughing And do you, as in that song, think that: “A white light has come upon you like a wedge” Or can only the Israeli military fight? wink

    As life has shown, they can only fight on paper and on the Internet.) The propaganda machine is up and running, and there is absolutely no war machine, toli because the Israelis are fighters like Georgians, the roofing felts are “the latest weapons” in fact. Who knows who knows... laughing
    Internet fighters from Telaviv, please do not answer my kament for their opinion is uninteresting.)
    1. Chavy
      Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: report4
      Quote: Boricello
      Quote: Professor
      Really in Tel Aviv again? wink

      And why in Tel Aviv? laughing And do you, as in that song, think that: “A white light has come upon you like a wedge” Or can only the Israeli military fight? wink

      As life has shown, they can only fight on paper and on the Internet.) The propaganda machine is up and running, and there is absolutely no war machine, toli because the Israelis are fighters like Georgians, the roofing felts are “the latest weapons” in fact. Who knows who knows... laughing
      Internet fighters from Telaviv, please do not answer my kament for their opinion is uninteresting.)


      Most of the native Israelis are not fighters at all, cowardly bullshit, I saw it myself :) In Israel, there is one hope for Russian guys who for some reason leave for Canada and America (as local Judenrat people write - probably because losers therefore leave)
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 21: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Chavy

        Most of the native Israelis are not fighters at all, cowardly bullshit, I saw it myself :) In Israel, there is one hope for Russian guys who for some reason leave for Canada and America (as local Judenrat people write - probably because losers therefore leave)

        who is this fucking fighter? Ariel Sharon, Roi Klein, Avigdor Kahalani, Zvi Gringold, Ilan Ramon, Jonathan Netagiyagu? You're not even worth their dirty socks.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 11 June 2013 00: 34 New
      -2
      Pupsik, did you serve yourself?
  16. Igor39
    Igor39 10 June 2013 11: 14 New
    +1
    As soon as the USA merges Israel, Israel will merge in the world laughing
  17. slaventi
    slaventi 10 June 2013 11: 26 New
    +1
    Iran’s desire to create nuclear weapons is quite reasonable. Nuclear weapons are the guarantor of the sovereignty of the country. Examples of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya are sufficient. These states no longer exist or represent the likeness of states, but are no longer such. Iran has not attacked anyone for more than a hundred years and He won’t attack if he doesn’t undergo aggression. It will be difficult to do what was done with Libya with a nuclear power, and the Iranian people are more united than the Arabs. You can understand the Palestinians they lived, they lived for more than one hundred years there, and here they have Jewish settlements, Zionism, the creation of Israel on their land as they consider them. It is unlikely that Israel would have decided the outcome of the war in a few days if it attacked Syria from the air. The NATO countries ironed Libya for half a year until the Qadafi regime fell. Secret agreements with the Salafi regimes, the bombing of Syrian army facilities confirms Israel’s participation in the Syrian conflict on the side of the “rebels." So the rebels will not win. It is not known what will happen to Israel itself. Israel exists while America exists. At one time, the Americans blew up skyscrapers to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, I wonder what Israel will do "or is already doing" to destroy the mosque of Omar.
    1. Toit
      Toit 10 June 2013 11: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: slaventi
      You can understand the Palestinians they lived, they lived for more than one hundred years there, and here they have Jewish settlements, Zionism, the creation of Israel on their land as they consider them.

      Djibril Rajub, as he said, on June 5, 67, I went to bed as a Jordanian, and woke up as a Palestinian, so what are there hundreds of years, and Jordan signed a peace treaty, that is, leaked its citizens to clean.
      He wrote about the treaty of Israel and the Sunni states more than once, only then they laughed that this could not be, and now they are shouting that Israel would at least benefit from Satan.
      "The East is a delicate matter" (c).
  18. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 10 June 2013 11: 41 New
    +3
    Israel has long been diligently encircling itself with dynamite, soon the United States will send them matches by mail and that's it, the next N-year wandering of the people of Moses around the world will come, I think that Moses himself grabs his head looking at what his descendants are doing.
  19. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: faraon
    Dear Patron, you are deeply mistaken in your post regarding the inflatable doll. The question is, is that the entire reserve banking system of America can migrate to Israel, so that the states want or not to pump in the amount of 2 billion dollars per year. Otherwise there will be no states. Second America will never go to drain its ally of Israel, because Russia will immediately take its place. And as for dography, all this is nonsense. Israel is a springboard for NATO’s invasion of the Middle East. And it’s inadvisable to think of yourself What if yes. Israel has something to answer, it has nothing to lose. The Arab countries are well aware of this and therefore, even contrary to their ideology, they secretly enter into an alliance with Israel. This is not my prediction. This is life.


    You are mistaken, America is about to go to the drain of its "ally." Or did you forget how Jewish bankers sponsored Hitler? Another Holocaust will come to you in Israel (which is translated from Greek as “Sacrifice”). Jewish bankers will rub their paws and come up with a new project for the remaining elite. And the Jews will be replaced, do not worry. In Ethiopia there is still a fallacy, in China they will find a lost knee.

    Israel will be doomed whether you want it or not. Netanyahu and Co. are already dismantling the state if you do not notice.
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      2. Professor
        10 June 2013 12: 24 New
        -4
        Komrad (Yored) is whistling - don't see you. hi
    2. Rioter
      Rioter 10 June 2013 12: 48 New
      +1
      Chave is an example, but his work lives on. I knew that people would not stop smoking nonsense even after his death.
    3. faraon
      faraon 10 June 2013 13: 12 New
      0
      Dear opponent of Chavy, Russia will especially take nothing for us to take the state’s place And believe me, Israel is ready for any development of events. Yes, and Russia will not refuse to crush such a tidbit as Israel. And moreover, I will tell you that it will quickly restore order in the state of Israel and in the whole Middle East. At one point all the wars will end, the Arab spring will finally end, which will only destabilize the Middle East. So we have nothing to worry about. We have remained so. Well, the last argument of $ 4 billion is such a tavaro Israel’s turnover with By Russia.
      1. atalef
        atalef 10 June 2013 13: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: faraon
        Dear Chava opponent

        Do not worry, who is who, and he knows what it is about, therefore he floods to the fullest, the loser is offended. . He's just a petty fat troll. He lived in Israel for 10 years, escaped with debt, and now he is pouring mud on everyone.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 10 June 2013 14: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          He's just a petty fat troll. He lived in Israel for 10 years, escaped with debt, and now he is pouring mud on everyone.

          Do you know all of yours? Tell us about the Professor or Pimple. Very interesting guys, I would like to know them better ... smile
          1. atalef
            atalef 10 June 2013 22: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Uncle
            Do you know all of yours?

            Of course . No, but I know the floods and falsehoods for sure. Israel has a lot of good and bad. None of this is a secret. Just do not lie. follower of Chavez (although they have much in common in this)

            Quote: Uncle
            Tell us about the Professor or Pimple. Very interesting guys, I would like to know them better.

            Ask yourself, you know them more than a goal, already someone, and you do not need intermediaries in this matter.
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      1. Egor.nic
        Egor.nic 10 June 2013 13: 56 New
        0
        Puffy muscles, fluid brains - "tested" by time however.
        Israel will "eat" itself in the end - respect your neighbor so that your neighbor respects you, do not do meanness so that they do not return to you.
  20. Chavy
    Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 15 New
    +2
    Kosher terrorists:

    http://www.rosinfonet.ru/politics/126836
  21. Boricello
    Boricello 10 June 2013 12: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Chavy
    Kosher terrorists:

    http://www.rosinfonet.ru/politics/126836

    Well, why are you slandering the poor Israelis so much ... They are not a drop in the mouth, mm. in opu. Now they will tell you that all this lies, n .... well and provocation wink But there’s still ... facts in the studio or something like that.
    1. Chavy
      Chavy 10 June 2013 12: 29 New
      +1
      Yeah :) They are God's chosen ones, they cannot be together with cannibals on one side like that. In general, drinking blood is not kosher and there are organs too, probably forgotten.
  22. Lalaloa
    Lalaloa 10 June 2013 12: 37 New
    -1
    It seems to be so bad, but no, we have to do worse. The authorities do not cease to amaze. This site recently came across: http://w2c3d.tk where information about each of us is publicly posted. I don’t know why to do this, but it personally scares me. Nevertheless, I somehow managed to delete my data, though I had to register, but no one could "dig up" anything on me.
    1. faraon
      faraon 10 June 2013 13: 22 New
      -1
      And you. What are you afraid of? Or that ours will come. Not ss ... everything will be ok. we respect pluralism
  23. Rioter
    Rioter 10 June 2013 12: 38 New
    +5
    The UAE has already sent a request to Israel for the purchase of drones for maritime patrolling Dominator. But the Israeli authorities then refused. In the light of new circumstances, they can go for such cooperation. the request was open and information on it passed through the media. The Qatari prince is preparing a trip to Israel to meet with representatives of Hi-tech Israel. Mursi crushes smugglers from Gaza ten times more mercilessly than Mubarak. He drowns tunnels, shoots dogs breaking through into Egypt like dogs. Jordan even opened its airspace for Israeli reconnaissance UAVs, in exchange for access to data on the situation in Syria. THOSE. Jordanians under no circumstances see Israel as a military threat and potential aggressor. This is a word about the confidence of the Arabs in the treaties signed by Israel. They do not believe in brother, but in Israel completely. The signatories to Israel and the world have long been reaping economic rewards. Israel in exchange for Peace returned everything that was conquered in the defensive wars of both Egypt and Jordan. (Israel begged Egypt to take Gaza, even threatened to disrupt negotiations if Egypt did not take it along with Sinai) But Saddat knew the price of this nest of robbery, and refused to cut it off. Together with Gaza and the Sinai pier is not necessary. Jordan is one of the most developed Arab countries (there is no oil in Jordan) thanks to cooperation with Israel and the export of technology. But Hafez al-Assad, was a proud dzhigit. Everyone hoped to win the Golan by Force. Now his son Damascus is recapturing. Three blocks are occupied by rebels. Qatar is ready for massive investment in Israel, the AOE drools on the "nyashki" from Israeli gunsmiths. It should be understood that data from the same Dominator is transmitted to the control center through the Israeli satellite constellation. That is, the Arabs obviously agree that the Jews would also have access to the monitoring data, because they are well aware that Israel will NEVER attack the first, unless provoking and preparing for a war that "will throw Jews into the sea." Neither one of the Arab countries, nor all of them taken together can oppose Israel militarily. And many of them have long realized that to have such a strong ally (albeit secretly) is much more profitable than to have in enemies. I’m afraid exalted anti-Semites will fight for a long time in hysteria and drool with bubbles, but Israel will bring their great-grandchildren to a nervous breakdown more than once.
    1. Kirgudum
      Kirgudum 11 June 2013 01: 47 New
      +1
      Now his son Damascus is recapturing. Three blocks occupied by rebels
      - What other three blocks are you lying? I have a friend living in Damascus, but I don’t live there anymore)))) The names of the quarters in the studio.
  24. faraon
    faraon 10 June 2013 12: 41 New
    -2
    Quote: Denis_SF
    Quote: Pimply
    But this is a more or less true understanding of the situation, with the exception of "helps." Israel simply does not intervene.

    If by “doesn’t interfere,” you mean “once again they are hovering planes in Damascus, suburbs and military depots”, then I agree with you, the policy of strict neutrality is simple!

    It could have been worse if the Israeli Air Force adhered to your scenario. But the IDF limited itself to a small one, it only destroyed weapons intended for Hizbullah. Hizbollah is an enemy of Israel. So, Israel acted quite legitimately on the part of international law, it didn’t take sides but only destroyed the threat posed in the future from the Lebanese terrorist grouping of Hezbol
    1. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 10 June 2013 13: 49 New
      +3
      Destroyed, with the help of Israeli air strikes, the barracks and headquarters of the Syrian troops, the warehouses and military equipment of the Syrian army are not related to the Lebanese terrorists. At the very least, this is hypocrisy and another sneaky move of Jews who print bluffs at every turn around the world.
    2. Kirgudum
      Kirgudum 11 June 2013 01: 47 New
      0
      Do you have evidence that this weapon was intended for those who you consider to be terrorists?
  25. slaventi
    slaventi 10 June 2013 13: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Chavy
    Quote: faraon


    You are mistaken, America is about to go to the drain of its "ally." Or did you forget how Jewish bankers sponsored Hitler? Another Holocaust will come to you in Israel (which is translated from Greek as “Sacrifice”). Jewish bankers will rub their paws and come up with a new project for the remaining elite. And the Jews will be replaced, do not worry. In Ethiopia there is still a fallacy, in China they will find a lost knee.

    Israel will be doomed whether you want it or not. Netanyahu and Co. are already dismantling the state if you do not notice.

    America will be merged first. Still, Jews rule America. America is the muscles, Israel's brains. The new world order does not imply the existence of strong states. If you need to sacrifice Israel, they will sacrifice. Everything should be consistent.
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 10 June 2013 14: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: slaventi
      The new world order does not imply the existence of strong states.

      The new world order implies the existence of only one state, with a common currency, with a common religion ...
      1. slaventi
        slaventi 10 June 2013 14: 44 New
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        I agree, one state, one religion, one currency, one ruler. God forbid, live at this time.
  26. myfutureamerica. org
    myfutureamerica. org 10 June 2013 14: 43 New
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    Israel is not the cause of the current indignation in the Middle East, the Arab Spring. It only reacts in troubled waters.
    Let me remind you that recent developments began with Tunesia in 2010. There, unexpectedly for everyone, protests began and ended with the overthrow of the government. Moreover, Tunesia is not one of the most backward Arab countries. This event rescued "Cold Pot" from the United States, since it was envisaged a large-scale destabilization of their most important allies, without which the US empire could not resist - Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc.
    After all, all the Oil-producing countries (OPEC) in 1975 undertook to sell oil only in US dollars. This fact significantly consolidated the US Dollar as the world's main reserve currency, which was especially important against the background of Nixon's refusal in 1971. Guarantee US Dollar Gold (Nixon Shock).

    After the Second World War, the USA succeeded in imposing its own will on the world due to the accumulation of 80% of all the world's gold reserves, because they successfully sold ALL weapons to gold (to Hitler, the USSR, and the rest of the Allies), and the presence of gold was a necessity for a strong currency, which remained in effect until 1971.

    But, as always, wars are financed by printing money, and the United States began to print the dollar in large volumes to finance wars in rivalry with the USSR, which infuriated Europe, which after the Second World War due to the already mentioned lack of gold was forced to peg its currencies under the Bretton Woods agreement to the Dollar +/- 3%, and in keeping with its obligations, I bought freshly printed extra Dollars in order to maintain a fixed rate against the dollar.

    When they ran out of patience, the Europeans — in particular — France demanded the exchange of pieces of paper for gold, and after the loss of the United States of most of its gold reserves, Nixon in 1971. unilaterally withdrew the United States from the Bretton Woods treaty.

    The expected collapse of the financial system did not happen, but since the global economy was gaining strength after the Second World War and was becoming less dependent on the United States, their rejection of the gold shame threatened the weakening of the Dollar.

    In addition to intimidating the entire world of the USSR, the Dollar needed additional support, which culminated in an agreement with OPEC.

    The US guaranteed the security of the Arab dictators in oil-producing countries, and they pledged to sell oil exclusively for the US Dollar.

    And then the circle closes. When there was an open threat that the revolution from Tunesia would jump to Saudi Arabia, etc., the United States shook the roofing felts on the one hand - from their point of view - the less important countries without oil, like Egypt, Syria, the roofing felts of Libya, since Gaddafi was preparing an all-African gold currency and this created a threat to the Dollar, which the United States does not tolerate in any case, as Saddam Hussei, who started selling oil in 2001 for the Euro and paid for it with his life, like hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, learned.

    Israel, like other countries, is for the USA one of the pawns on the world’s chessboard, which they skillfully wield from a perfectly protected position overseas.
    Their goal is to defend their currency, since everyone who needs oil because of its absence, are forced to turn to the United States before purchasing it and exchange their goods for freshly printed candy wrappers. Hello.
  27. faraon
    faraon 10 June 2013 16: 10 New
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    Quote: Perch_1
    of course. For me, so let Assad survive in this war, but the last
    And along the way, jihadists from Syria will slaughter Christians, will rob, rape according to fatwas. And all this Israel will consider the norm, and even support. Conclusion Israel rots and is extremely illegible. Or do you think that the wrath of God will not touch you, or the hand of God is not above you.
    And why do you think that you can spit on all the rules, and who will look at all this and do nothing, you think there is no adequate answer to your actions.

    Dear I don’t understand what you are accusing Israel of? Israel is indulging in jihadists? Or Israel spits on all the rules, then you are mistaken again. Israel maintains neutrality in relation to Syria. And if it uses force, it is exclusively selective, only when the actions of the opposite side will be Israel’s national security. And the hot guys from Syria will sort it out themselves and find out the relationship. You’d better put things in order at home and don’t get into someone else’s showdown. You have a civil war under your nose, and you all condemn others
  28. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 10 June 2013 16: 50 New
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    Israel is experiencing its last era as a state. It will disappear from the world map if it does not change its domestic and foreign policies to its neighbors. Israel's policy towards Arabs provokes retaliatory action. Zionists are obsessed with the idea of ​​a chosen people, which prevents them from showing respect for others. Israel is now a victim of its own policies. The end of the United States will come soon, but it seems to me that the cause of the end of the older brother will be the death of the younger.
  29. kind
    kind 10 June 2013 17: 04 New
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    As the saying goes: "If you want to defeat the enemy, make him your friend."
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    1. biglow
      biglow 10 June 2013 21: 18 New
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      Jews in the Crimea from Israel began to return somewhere in the middle of 2005. Those who go back to us say that living in Israel has become unprofitable. Previously there were all sorts of benefits and now they don’t pay taxes, on the contrary. They have shorter where the homeland is profitable laughing
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 23: 28 New
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        And much has returned? Something is imperceptible.
        1. biglow
          biglow 11 June 2013 13: 49 New
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          10 people returned, these are those whom I know. They lived in those places that were fired upon during the last conflict with the Palestinians.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 10 June 2013 23: 27 New
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      Quote: vkrav
      Rats, damn it ...
      look at yourself in the mirror nonsense!
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  33. faraon
    faraon 11 June 2013 08: 40 New
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    Quote: Gari
    Quote: faraon
    but he didn’t do it. for one reason, because he doesn’t see this as an interest in 40 years of the cold world with Syria, it’s better than constant problems with the rebels, who, even by their very essence, clearly cannot tell what they want. And all of them actions deny their "national liberation actions. Therefore, Israel does not act on any side."

    Good afternoon, if I can express my point of view, I think it would be beneficial for Israel to be a neighbor to Syria, although not in a very warm relationship where Assad rules, than with those who seek his place, these unpredictable thugs are unlikely to be friends with Israel, yes and with other neighbors, by the way, until recently, the most peaceful place in Syria was precisely the border with Israel

    I’m talking about this in all my posts, in one form or another. Israel has no one to get involved in this war. Such groups as Hezbollah and rebel groups want to draw into. All this is done so that the legitimacy joins together to begin military operations against Israel. Look deep . Israel is drawn into a civil war, you need to know and understand the east, the scenario is the unification of all Muslim terrorist groups led by Syrian President Al-Assad, the result of military operations is transferred to the territory of Israel in theory, and in practice, a third world war fire breaks out. will be transferred to the Central Asian republics, and the Caucasus, but then Russia will have to fight.
    Now tell me which side Israel needs this war ???? And does Russia need this alignment.
  34. faraon
    faraon 11 June 2013 08: 54 New
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    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: Professor
    Traditional apple shipments began from Israel to Syria. Israeli apple producers again shipped a shipment of goods to Syria, despite the hostilities unfolding in the Golan Heights, Kohl Israel reported on June 9.


    Hello professor. Well this is a business of nothing personal. Syrians apples, militants weapons and medical care.

    And I have a question. GDP suggested sending the Russian peacekeeping contingent to replace the Austrians with the Golan. Is Israel for or against?

    Yesterday there was a press conference with the Minister of Internal Affairs of Israel. The essence of the Israeli conference is not against the fact that Russian peacekeeping forces will enter the buffer zone between Israel and Syria.
  35. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 11 June 2013 16: 59 New
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    Israel supplies arms to states with which it does not have diplomatic relations, including to Arab countries. This is evidenced by the documents of the UK government. In the past five years, products from the Israeli defense industry have been purchased by Egypt, Morocco, Algeria and the UAE.
    Arms sales are monitored by the UK Department of Business, Innovation and Vocational Education. It has the right to prohibit third countries from exporting military equipment using components manufactured in the UK.
    According to the Haaretz newspaper, the ministry regularly publishes reports on its activities. They recorded Israeli treatment. From the documents you can find out to whom and what weapons Israel supplied, and in what cases the government of Her Majesty used the veto.
    According to reports, in the 2008-12 years, Israel supplied weapons to many Muslim countries. Egypt and Morocco received electronic warfare equipment and equipment for pilots, and the United Arab Emirates - a system that interferes with missile launch, equipment for pilots, refueling equipment and radars.
    In 2009, Israel agreed with Great Britain to supply Algeria with an airborne surveillance system, computerized helmets for pilots, electronic equipment for cockpits, radars, navigation and communications, optical guidance and electronic jamming systems.
    In the 2010-11 years, Pakistan acquired radars, electronic warfare equipment, computerized helmets for pilots, spare parts for aircraft and aircraft engines, optical guidance and various electronic equipment in Israel.
    The document notes that the UK vetoed the supply of aircraft engines to Azerbaijan and Sri Lanka, anti-aircraft systems of Turkmenistan, aircraft engines and satellite radars in India. Russia did not receive the optical guidance systems in which it was interested.
    According to documents of the UK government, Israel supplies weapons to dozens of countries, including Ireland, Vietnam, the USA, Sweden, Turkey, Equatorial Guinea and Switzerland. The most in demand are Israeli UAVs, radars and avionics.
  36. user
    user 11 June 2013 22: 34 New
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    I read (not too lazy) here all the comments, especially the answers of the Jews. It’s wonderful how that girl adjusts to anyone and she’s always right and there’s always a reason, and in general she’s a decent girl.

    Well, if the Fed moves to them then well. . . . .
  37. ant_ey
    ant_ey 12 June 2013 00: 56 New
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    Judging by the reaction of the Jews, the cat knows whose meat has eaten
  38. ant_ey
    ant_ey 12 June 2013 01: 01 New
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    Gee-Gee-Gee Israel does not know who supplies the weapons, Benin's tales,
    do not disgrace
  39. Andrey Skokovsky
    Andrey Skokovsky 13 June 2013 19: 53 New
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    Quote: faraon
    Dear Patron, you are deeply mistaken in your post regarding the inflatable doll. The question is, is that the entire reserve banking system of America can migrate to Israel, so that the states want or not to pump in the amount of 2 billion dollars per year. Otherwise there will be no states. Second America will never go to drain its ally of Israel, because Russia will immediately take its place. And as for dography, all this is nonsense. Israel is a springboard for NATO’s invasion of the Middle East. And it’s inadvisable to think of yourself What if yes. Israel has something to answer, it has nothing to lose. The Arab countries are well aware of this and therefore, even contrary to their ideology, they secretly enter into an alliance with Israel. This is not my prediction. This is life.


    magically clinical case
    they are digging a ditch with a shovel (Israel), and a very smart shovel thinks that this is her hole and the person works because the shovel conceived it so and she needs it !!
    ...... Sorry, I could not resist ....