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Anti horror
Black Widow - “Black Widow”, this name was given to this Soviet mine, known in the world not less than the famous Kalashnikov assault rifle, and just as widespread.


For the first time, this mine was talked about during the Vietnam War of 1964 – 1975. Along with the fighting in the jungle, “black widows” also sprang up: Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. In 1967, the “widows” reached the Middle East, where Egyptian and Syrian troops actively used them. They were installed in thousands during the Soviet-Afghan war from 1979 to 1989. This mine could be found in any country affected by armed conflict in the second half of the last century. It was this mine that deprived Shamil Basayev of his feet when, with the militants in January 2000, he broke from Grozny. It is quite possible that it was the journalist Dmitry Kholodov who took it in his office when an explosion struck.

Like the Kalashnikov assault rifle, the PMN mine was born in the USSR in 1949, and, like an automaton, it was produced and produced under licenses and without them in many countries. In China, under the designation Type 58, in Hungary - Gyata 64, in Argentina - FMK-1, in Bulgaria - PMN, as well as in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India, Cuba, etc. Accurate data why the mine was dubbed the "black widow", no. Maybe because of the black color of the rubber cover or because the person stepping on it has little chance of remaining alive. But most likely - because of the irrational fear of mines, which covers even the fired and experienced soldiers, paralyzes their will, deprives courage and the ability to go forward.



Curse of infantry

In reality, far fewer people died from mines in all wars and were crippled than from bullets, shells and bombs. Oddly enough, but the main striking factor of an anti-personnel mine is not the force of an explosion or fragments. Mina cripples not so much the body as the soul of a soldier. Mine fear (another name - mine horror) - this is what stops the advancing infantry, this is what makes the fighters afraid to take at least a step. Moreover, the more experienced the soldier, the more he fights, the stronger the mine terror.

But the probability of stepping on a PMN minefield on a standard Soviet minefield is only 0,07, that is, out of a hundred soldiers caught in such a field, only seven will be blown up. And meanwhile, knowing that the minefield is ahead, the soldiers would refuse to go on the attack or, realizing that they were on the minefield, they would lie down and would prefer to become fixed targets for enemy machine guns rather than rush forward or retreat.

The soldier in battle is afraid, of course, of bullets and shells. But he understands that on the other side the same soldier also cannons are beating at him and machine guns are firing - there is a confrontation. Those who are more skilled, experienced, courageous and quick are also more likely to win and stay alive. Mine is not like that. And the consciousness of the fact that you yourself bring your killer into action deprives a person of courage and paralyzes his will.

Near

Consider PMN closer. This is a Soviet anti-personnel high-explosive mine pressure action. Anti-personnel - that is, designed specifically for the destruction or injury of a person. High-explosive - striking force of the explosion. Pressing action means it will explode only when pressure is applied to it with a force of at least 8 – 25 kg. To trigger is enough to come.

Inside the mine there is a charge of trotyl weighing 200 g. When the mine explodes, the ensuing leg usually comes off to the knee. What happens to the second leg depends on whether the person is walking or running. In the first case, he is likely to lose his second leg; in the second - the leg can survive. In addition, a powerful shock wave deprives a person of consciousness, drives remnants of shoes, clothes, fragments of his own bones into his body, and burning explosive gases cause severe burns. If a person who has undermined a mine is not provided with timely first aid, death from a painful shock or large blood loss can occur.

Frost resistant option

Along with all its advantages, PMN also had a very significant drawback: the time of bringing a mine into a combat position depended on temperature. If at a temperature of + 40ОС mine is transferred to the combat position in 2 – 3 minutes, then at –40ОС it takes two and a half days - the cold sharply increases the resistance of the metal of the safety plate to cutting (see inset).

Therefore, by the second half of the sixties, the PMN-2 mine was accepted into service with the Soviet army. It differed from the PMN in that instead of the metal element being cut, a rubber bellows was installed in it, in other words, a short rubber corrugated tube that was in a safety position in a compressed state. Such devices in the language of miners are called “long-cocking mechanisms”. Pulling the safety brace, the miner released the bellows, which began to fill with air through the calibrated holes and straighten out. At the same time, at the end of its straightening, the bellows released a spring-loaded slider with a detonator, which became opposite to the drummer.

Mina PMN-2, besides the fact that the time of her bringing into combat was incomparably less dependent on temperature (under all conditions from 2 to 10 minutes), had another valuable feature - she was always ready to work. The only operation performed by the miner was that he turned and pulled out the safety clip. But PMN had previously to be prepared for work: unscrew the cork, insert a detonator into the mine, wrap the cork, unscrew the cork on the opposite side of the mine and check the operability of the metal element.

The charge of the mine was reduced by half, because it was recognized that 200 g of TNT was a bit too much - the person had enough and half the charge. True, TNT was replaced by more powerful explosives TG-40 (a mixture of TNT and RDX). The trigger force was raised from 8 – 25 kg to 15 – 25 kg in order to increase the mine’s resistance to explosive demining. However, PMN-2 was much more difficult to manufacture, and therefore much more expensive. She did not enjoy popularity. While PMN is widely known throughout the world, PMN-2 was used sparingly, mainly in the CIS, in Afghanistan and some other countries. Yes, and it was made exclusively in the Soviet Union.

Widow's heirs

By the end of the seventies, it ceased to satisfy the military and PMN-2. The maneuverable nature of modern wars, their short duration led to the fact that often their own minefields became a hindrance to the troops. In addition, after the end of hostilities, minefields had to be cleared, which took a lot of resources and time.

It was required that after a certain time, anti-personnel mines would either become safe or self-destruct. Therefore, the PMN-3 mine was developed, which externally did not differ from the PMN-2, but had an electronic fuse that ensured reliable operation of the mine under the soldier’s foot, excluding the explosion of the mine from the impact of a shock wave upon detonation of demining charges (due to the difference in pressure on the mine shock wave and legs) and automatically blew mine after a predetermined period. It was possible to pre-set the counter for a period of time from 0,5 to 8 days, after which the mine exploded without causing harm to anyone. Knowing the time of the combat work of the minefield, the commanders were confident that by the right time this minefield would not exist.

But the eighties came, funding for the army began to decline, and a much cheaper mine was needed. It was decided to abandon the release of expensive PMN-3 in favor of a cheap last version of the Soviet anti-personnel anti-personnel high-explosive mine - PMN-4. This mine is smaller both in diameter, (9,5cm) and in height (4,2cm), and in the mass of the bursting charge (total 50 g TG-40). The long-cocking mechanism was hydraulic. After removing the safety guard, the rubber gel began to be squeezed out through the calibrated holes, which took from 1 to 40 minutes depending on the ambient temperature. After this, the mine became in a martial position. The mechanism of self-destruction was abandoned for economic reasons. The era of very different mines has come.
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  1. Canep
    Canep 4 May 2013 08: 04 New
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    In the photo PMN-2, PMN see below.
  2. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 May 2013 08: 42 New
    23
    "Wake" PMN-mark my legs (bring my legs).
    1. Canep
      Canep 4 May 2013 18: 44 New
      +5
      This is you to the point.
  3. ed65b
    ed65b 4 May 2013 08: 49 New
    +2
    Yeah, it looks like a distribution box. No legs. Horror.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 4 May 2013 18: 25 New
      +5
      and it’s worse than immediately. It hurts, no paramedol helps. You can’t do anything. You lower it on your hands for several hours. It dies in the eyes of pain and blood loss. It hurts
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 4 May 2013 08: 57 New
    17
    There were even more insidious mines! Take the same "Petal" (PFM-1C)
    1. Owl
      Owl 4 May 2013 19: 55 New
      +9
      In the winter of 2000 I had to deal with this product: in the fall - in the winter of 1999 they were actively used at the entrance to the territory of the Czech Republic, but because of the likely duration of storage in warehouses, self-liquidation did not always work, the "Czechs" collected them and used them like ordinary anti-personnel mines, laying out at the place where the ambush device was supposed to be. We were lucky, no one stepped on our feet, accidentally drove a BTR-80 wheel, pulled out one lug fang, even the wheel was not punched.
    2. igordok
      igordok 4 May 2013 20: 39 New
      10
      Walking around the suburbs (not far from the tankodrome), such a thing came under my feet. Realizing that she was training, and in addition, warmed up by the fire, she still did not want to take it in her hands.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 5 May 2013 11: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: igordok
        Walking around the suburbs (not far from the tankodrome), such a thing came under my feet. Realizing that she was training, and in addition, warmed up by the fire, she still did not want to take it in her hands.


        God forbid from such finds.
  5. Nomad
    Nomad 4 May 2013 10: 46 New
    +1
    "But the probability of stepping on a PMN mine in a standard Soviet minefield is only 0,07, that is, out of a hundred soldiers who have fallen on such a minefield, only seven will be blown up." Very interesting, did not know!
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 4 May 2013 17: 34 New
      +3
      Duc to nightmare the enemy more and not necessary.
  6. w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 4 May 2013 11: 22 New
    +8
    Quote: APASUS
    "Petal"

    "Petal" in Afghanistan was used for mining from a turntable. quickly covered large areas and trails surrounded by "chebureks" so that they would not leave the "bag" at night.
    good mine. tears off his foot only, but in the mountains, and this is enough to become an easy target ...
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 23 August 2013 16: 37 New
      0
      This is even worse than if the attacker died. The wounded fetters the actions of two more, forced to drag him. Total, one detonation, minus three of the composition.
  7. Beck
    Beck 4 May 2013 13: 43 New
    +5
    And why didn’t the author know how to write about mines? Well, if you undertook to write, so read the material thoroughly, and then write. From my point of view, the author did not indicate the main properties of the mine.

    The acronym PMN does not mean (according to the author) anti-personnel high-explosive mine of push action. PMN means - Plastic Mina Push. Exactly plasticso that it could not be detected by a mine detector.

    Take a closer look at the metal ring and cotter pin in white because they are made not of steel, but of some non-electromagnetic alloys. This is also so that the mine detector does not detect. And the drummer of this mine is made of the same alloy. Why is the plastic case on top of the mine tightened with a thick layer of rubber? Therefore, in order not to use a steel pressure spring in a mine. The hammer acts on the fuse with a certain deflection of the elastic rubber layer.

    And why not knowing any nonsense to write.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 4 May 2013 16: 12 New
      +1
      It is plastic, so that it cannot be detected by a mine detector

      Beck, where have you been told that PMN cannot be detected? Which option completely excludes metal elements?
      1. Beck
        Beck 4 May 2013 17: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Gleb
        Beck, where have you been told that PMN cannot be detected? Which option completely excludes metal elements?


        I served in the SA from 1968-1970. And then the army mine detectors such mines were not found. And we were very surprised when the mined, after the events, Damansky island of minami MON-100 (Mine Shrapnel Directed Action) and PMN was cleared by the Chinese. (Two weeks later, two border guards with sappers went to check)

        Something like that.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 4 May 2013 17: 45 New
          0
          Yes, I agree, the problem is the staffing of units with modern systems. (I remembered the guy ... I took a half step on the path)
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 May 2013 18: 38 New
          +1
          Are you surprised at what MON found?
          And by the way, mine detector is not the only way to search for mines.
          1. Beck
            Beck 4 May 2013 18: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            Are you surprised at what MON found?


            They were not surprised by MON, but by the fact that they found PMN. After all, they told us that it was not detectable by the mine detectors of the time.

            But MON does not need to find a special military education. You have to be careful. They hung this plate on trees and put it in the bushes, that is, they did not bury it and pulled a banner from it.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 4 May 2013 18: 54 New
              +2
              Probes. They have a lot of people.
            2. Hleb
              Hleb 4 May 2013 18: 55 New
              +2
              Beck, he's right about non-linear locators
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 4 May 2013 19: 00 New
                +1
                Where did the Chinese come from in those days?
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 4 May 2013 19: 04 New
                  0
                  it's generally about the impossibility of detection. A conversation from this and went
              2. Beck
                Beck 4 May 2013 19: 01 New
                +4
                Quote: Gleb
                Beck, he's right about non-linear locators


                Well, men, overlaid. I am from the memory of 44 years ago, and from the position of a simple sergeant of a tankman, who was taught this mine business for only three days. And you pull me into specialization.

                In short. The mine is plastic, for less detectability. And about linear locators, so do it yourself, without me.
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 4 May 2013 19: 11 New
                  0
                  Yes, I’m without intent. Earth! We’re just talking. I’m also not special in this matter.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 4 May 2013 19: 20 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Gleb
                    Yes, I’m without intent. Earth! We’re just talking. I’m also not special in this matter.


                    Yes, and I have no offense. I just see myself that people understand more of me. So why should I be a former tanker, but for today, a physician to tear the gates on my chest. I’ll listen to you best of all.
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 4 May 2013 21: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Beck
          Damansky Island by minami MON-100 (Mine Shrapnel Directed Action) and PMN, was cleared by the Chinese.

          In those days, the main military force of China was its population.
          They were given a bag of rice to platoon in the evening, so they would have sifted a Daman sieve !!
          1. Beck
            Beck 4 May 2013 21: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: APASUS
            In those days, the main military force of China was its population. They gave them a bag of rice to plat in the evening, so they would have sifted a Daman sieve !!


            That's for sure. Early March. Already not winter frosts, but frosts, snow. And all the huyvenbin in running shoes run.

            And their tactics were “human waves”. Infantry wave after wave, chain after chain should, in spite of any losses to roll on the enemy. Until the enemy is exhausted or until the end of the ammunition. It was said that the first three chains were with weapons, the rest without. They had to pick up the weapons of those killed in the first chains.

            By the way, the tactics of "human waves" were inculcated by the Chinese Marshal Blucher, being, in the mid-20s, a military adviser to Chai Kan Shi. Blucher himself first applied similar tactics when he was the commander of 51 divisions in 1920, during the assault on Perekop. Then Blucher created six waves. Then Blucher used this tactic in 1921 in the Far East. Either near Spassky, or near Volochaevka. Then the first three waves were made up by the Koreans armed only with scissors, for cutting wire fences, and then the waves of the Red Army followed them.

            Oh. Something started talking. Anyway.
            1. Ilyukha
              Ilyukha 5 May 2013 15: 16 New
              0
              My uncle in Damansky was a border guard lieutenant.
              At first, human waves were completely unarmed and forced out and beat border guards, but did not use weapons. Ours also beat them manually.
              When we started shooting, there was a normal offensive by all the rules, all the Chinese were armed.
              The real losses on Damansky from our side were killed by several hundred people, and not several dozen, as the authorities still claim.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 23 August 2013 16: 51 New
        0
        Italian and NATO anti-personnel. Chemical fuse, ceramics. Metal zero. Unfortunately, for almost thirty years, I forgot the designation and performance characteristics.
    2. Canep
      Canep 4 May 2013 18: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Beck
      The acronym PMN does not mean (according to the author) anti-personnel high-explosive mine of push action. PMN means - Plastic Mina Push. It is plastic so that it cannot be detected by a mine detector.

      The author correctly indicated the decryption of the mine. In your opinion, it turns out that PMD-6 should decrypt a plastic mine, wooden or a plastic mine of fools.
      In fact, this is a wooden anti-personnel mine. Further: there are but few metal parts in this mine, this is the striking spring, and other parts of the fuse. Next: to make it impossible to use an induction mine detector, it is very simple to stick nails (or other metal parts) throughout the minefield. Not an experienced sapper with a mine detector will cover the entire field, but will leave half of the mines even if there are metal mines.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 May 2013 18: 42 New
        0
        It is necessary to add more sophisticated mine search tools to dogs and plastic probes. Non-linear locators and other features.
        1. Canep
          Canep 4 May 2013 19: 49 New
          +3
          So far, apart from the brains of the sapper, and the dogs to him, in addition, they have not come up with anything effective enough.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 4 May 2013 20: 02 New
            +1
            Really? But what about Gorynych?
            1. Canep
              Canep 4 May 2013 22: 41 New
              +1
              This is UR-77, and the snake gorynych is an elongated mine clearance UZ-3. Normal sappers drag him into the minefield, and some hang on him full-time powder propellant rocket engines and think that he will fly to the minefield himself.
              So, this one-hundred-meter construction weighing 3 tons, spewing fire and smoke with a wild roar, began to bend, rise, fidget in different directions. Then, naturally, according to the laws of physics, it was broken into pieces, which began to smoke and howl flying through the sky in various directions. It is not for nothing that the UZ-3R immediately received the loud and unflattering name "Snake Gorynych" from the infantry and tankers
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              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 4 May 2013 23: 04 New
                -1
                We called him “Gorynych”. And it was quite flattering. Very well in settlements, free passage from the enemy did. Well, the cable is again a beautiful thing, applicable in the household.
                That, “Serpent” is one thing, and “Urka” is another, sappers said. But it did not take root.
            2. Canep
              Canep 4 May 2013 22: 46 New
              0
              And as for UR-77, it is intended for making passages in minefields for advancing units, for mine clearance it is monstrously expensive to use. The length of its charge is 93 m, calculate how many they need on a 100 km path. And all the roadside villages after it will be in ruins.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 4 May 2013 23: 05 New
                0
                She was used in battles in settlements. And you regret the road.
            3. Canep
              Canep 4 May 2013 23: 02 New
              +2
              For clearance on the march intended BMR-3. But it does not provide a 100% guarantee for the destruction of all mines. In addition, a mine trawl will withstand no more than 10 anti-tank mine detonations. NATO sappers have a mine clearing machine similar to a combine harvester, but instead of a reel, a rotating shaft with chains is installed, when the chains rotate, they hit the ground leading to mine detonation.
              1. Canep
                Canep 4 May 2013 23: 19 New
                +1
                Photo Digger D-3 mine clearing machine (Switzerland).
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 4 May 2013 23: 26 New
                0
                This is not for the road.
                According to them, they work like this: First, a car like our DIM, only cool, based on the Husky

                Then a Buffalo-based machine with a manipulator extracts the detected WU to the surface.

                A robot pulls up and puts a charge on top.


                Bang and done
                1. Canep
                  Canep 4 May 2013 23: 42 New
                  +1
                  This is all good that I showed here, and your cars are good, but a sapper with a dog is much cheaper, both in terms of acquisition and operation. About sappers usually remember when they run into a mine, then these machines are too late to buy. BMR-3 is the fruit of the Kulibin thought of Afghan sappers, embodied in a production car. There, out of the obsolete T-55, with the help of electric welding and E mother, our sappers fought similar vehicles.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 4 May 2013 23: 53 New
                    0
                    Quote: Canep
                    but a sapper with a dog is much cheaper, both in terms of acquisition and operation.

                    Here it is. As far as I know, nothing has appeared to replace the ancient DIM.
                    Manual ones are better. New mine detectors, non-linear locators, electronically, plus some kind of apparatus that calculates density anomalies under the surface. I don’t know if it is in the army.
              3. novobranets
                novobranets 23 August 2013 21: 00 New
                0
                The Germans came up with the “Thresher” in their forty-fourth year. Simple and effective.
        2. _denn
          _denn 27 June 2013 01: 20 New
          0
          A non-linear locator stands like a wing from an airplane. For such a price you can buy 15 to 20 modern metal detectors.
        3. novobranets
          novobranets 23 August 2013 17: 03 New
          0
          In the early eighties, mines appeared with an electronic combined fuse. The mine detonated on the magnetic field of the metal detector, and the two-meter "mustache" - piezoelectric cables, on the pressure on the ground next to the mine.
      2. Beck
        Beck 4 May 2013 18: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Canep
        The author correctly indicated the decryption of the mine


        I agree. So much time has passed, I could have got it wrong. Associated that the case was plastic. And when training mines were dismantled for us, even the firing pin was not gray-steel color, but white and lngkovy some kind of, or I again confuse that. And the spring is brisk, of course, you will not make it otherwise than steel.
    3. beech
      beech 4 May 2013 21: 22 New
      0
      electromagnetic alloys.
      -0_0 something new_)
      1. Beck
        Beck 4 May 2013 22: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: beech
        electromagnetic alloys.-0_0 something new_


        I meant that there are some non-electromagnetic alloys, roughly speaking, that do not create electromagnetic fields. Therefore, it is not possible or difficult to detect products from such alloys with conventional mine detectors. Typical non-electromagnetic substances - plastic, wood, glass, etc.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 23 August 2013 19: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Beck
          I meant that there are some non-electromagnetic alloys, roughly speaking, that do not create electromagnetic fields

          The fact is that mine detectors, more correctly called metal detectors, detect any metal alloys, including non-magnetic ones. Be it steel, bronze, mercury or gold. The main part is an induction coil generating electric. a magnetic field. Any metal falling into this field causes its distortion, then a signal sounds. The closer the metal, the stronger the distortion, the louder the sound. But there are such mines in which there is no metal at all, so every fighter of an engineer-sapper battalion has a probe with him, which he trusts more. By the way there are mines "goodbye sapper", somewhere here I wrote about them. Sincerely. hi
  8. omsbon
    omsbon 4 May 2013 14: 34 New
    +2
    All the same, it’s not in vain that a mine is considered a mean weapon!
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  10. ... in motu
    ... in motu 4 May 2013 15: 49 New
    +1
    "cold dramatically increases the resistance of the metal of the safety plate to cutting (see sidebar)." and where is the inset !? All the same, you need to be more careful with the material!
  11. luka095
    luka095 4 May 2013 17: 47 New
    +3
    ... knowing that the minefield is in front, the soldiers will refuse to attack or, realizing that they are in the minefield, lie down and prefer to become motionless targets for enemy machine guns rather than rushing forward or retreating.
    To survive, do you need to continue the attack? Is this the reason why the soldiers deliberately threw soldiers into minefields during the war to mine them? Just to pour dirt on the army?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 23 August 2013 19: 35 New
      0
      Remember the movie "penal battalion"? We didn’t have time to clear the field, but we must go on the attack. Ahead of minefields, behind machine guns. You need to have iron nerves or not at all. And I read something similar in my memoirs, I don’t remember the author. So this is not dirt, it was a necessity. hi
  12. Canep
    Canep 4 May 2013 17: 50 New
    +2
    During the war, mines are planted by everyone, helicopter pilots, aviation, artillery, there are no only space systems for remote mining, and sappers have to remove them. Not in vain, but there are even such exotic mines:
  13. Rriv
    Rriv 4 May 2013 18: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Beck
    PMN means - Plastic Mina Push

    Quote: Beck
    as made not of steel, but of some non-electromagnetic alloys.

    Quote: Beck
    Why is the plastic case on top of the mine tightened with a thick layer of rubber? Therefore, in order not to use a steel pressure spring in a mine. The hammer acts on the fuse with a certain deflection of the elastic rubber layer.

    Well you said !!!
  14. Beck
    Beck 4 May 2013 18: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: RRiv
    Well you said !!!


    Well said. You were surprised incredulously. So imagine your arguments that refute what I said.

    On your - Well, you said !!! I can answer your way too. - Ah, that.

    Well, and what kind of communication will it be.
    1. Canep
      Canep 4 May 2013 18: 36 New
      +1
      I wrote the arguments above.
    2. Canep
      Canep 4 May 2013 18: 41 New
      +1
      If this is not enough, take an interest in Veremeyev, a very respected person. Here is his website http://www.saper.etel.ru/
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      2. Beck
        Beck 4 May 2013 18: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Canep
        I wrote the arguments above.


        I'm sorry. I took you one for two. And then I do not insist on the details. You know it better. By your nickname you are special. But I was not an army engineer. He was a tankman and we were taught for general education.
        1. Canep
          Canep 4 May 2013 19: 03 New
          +1
          Live and learn. We were given an assignment on the set to find anti-tank mines (metal) on the plot, the obstacles said 5 pieces were buried, how much you would bring such an estimate and get, and then we added them, we installed them in the fall, and it was in the spring. Then we understood the induction mine detector needed to spoil the life of the sapper, the infection squeaked for everything. The construction site (abandoned) also adjoined our site. In general, we dragged 4 mines. All are found by probes. Only money spent on batteries wasted.
      3. T-130
        T-130 4 May 2013 19: 01 New
        0
        Interesting information, it turns out even anti-helicopter mines are!
        1. Canep
          Canep 4 May 2013 19: 06 New
          +1
          When I was studying there were no pictures of these mines, much less videos. They said that such and all are being developed.
  15. Canep
    Canep 4 May 2013 18: 48 New
    0
    Who cares is the victim of PMN.
    1. Xunta
      Xunta 4 May 2013 18: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Canep
      PMN

      Judging by the photograph, this abbreviation stands for "bring my foot."
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  16. Rriv
    Rriv 4 May 2013 18: 59 New
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    Quote: Beck
    Well said. You were surprised incredulously.

    Read carefully here http://saperka.ru/protvopexotnaya-mina-pmn-sssr
  17. MG42
    MG42 4 May 2013 19: 30 New
    +1
    Here's another continuation of this line of mines >>> ANTI-MINE PMD-6M in a wooden case
    The mine can be installed both on the ground and in the soil, in the snow, manually or laid out by means of mechanization (trailed mine distributors PMR-1, PMR-2, but in all cases the mine is put into a combat position manually.

    The term of the mine’s combat work is limited by the life of the wooden hull. When it is destroyed by rotting, the pressure cap may not squeeze the combat pin out of the fuse and the explosion will not occur. The mine is not equipped with a self-liquidator. It has no elements of non-detachability and non-neutralization, however, the very high sensitivity of the MUV series detonator makes the clearance of mines extremely dangerous. In addition, a mine-surprise may be placed under the mine, which makes the extraction or clearance of mines impossible.

    Mina consists of a wooden case, TNT 200g. TNT checker, fuse of the МУВ series with a “T” -shaped pin, fuse МД-2 (МД-5М)

    mine MON-50

    Mine guided anti-personnel fragmentation guided destruction. Designed to incapacitate enemy personnel. The defeat of a person (or several at the same time) during a mine explosion is done with ready-made killer elements (balls or rollers) flying in the direction of the enemy in a sector along the horizon of 54 degrees to a range of up to 50 meters. The height of the affected sector is from 15 cm to 4 meters at the maximum range. The explosion is carried out by the operator from the control panel when the enemy appears in the defeat sector, or when the enemy soldier is grazed by the breakaway sensor of the MVE-72 fuse, or by the tension sensor (wire) of the MUV series fuse. The mine itself is not equipped with fuses, but in the upper part there are two threaded sockets for fuse MD-2 or MD-5M, electric detonator EDP-R. Thus, a mine can be activated in one of two ways.
    1. Canep
      Canep 4 May 2013 19: 43 New
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      Quote: MG42
      trailed mine distributors PMR-1, PMR-2

      You at least check on Yandex what you write PMR-1 is a Yugoslav fragmentation-guarding mine. And the PMZ-4 trailed mine layer is in the photo, and is intended only for anti-tank mines. And the rest is right.
      1. MG42
        MG42 4 May 2013 19: 49 New
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        Quote: Canep
        Do you even check in Yandex

        Upload a link to the material? yes no problem >>> check ...
        there are still a bunch of mines read
        http://worldweapon.ru/mines/ppm4.php
        1. Canep
          Canep 4 May 2013 19: 55 New
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          I spoke about your PMR-1 to check in Yandex. And the rest is true. Yes, and PMD-6 is in addition to landmines, and also an untouchable supply of firewood.
          1. MG42
            MG42 6 May 2013 03: 45 New
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            Quote: Canep
            and PMD-6 is in addition to landmines, and also an untouchable supply of firewood.

            The wooden case makes the mine hard to detect mine detectors.
            In addition, a mine-surprise can be installed under the mine, which makes the extraction or clearance of mines impossible. Just a blast.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 May 2013 20: 03 New
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        They should work with anti-tankers in the war. Movable boom squad.
  18. bublic82009
    bublic82009 4 May 2013 21: 15 New
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    the main thing is to disable the enemy. and 2-3 soldiers will have to tinker with the wounded. you can not evacuate the murdered
    1. adolph1
      adolph1 6 May 2013 22: 21 New
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      Well, God forbid what happens to you, let your body not be evacuated or buried, but why let the crows peck at you! Yes, and your loved ones will be glad about how good it is that neither a tomb nor a grave nor a place in the cemetery, and on Easter you can sit at home, and not drag yourself to the cemetery! In all wars after the climax, it was time to collect the dead and wounded from the battlefield! Russians do not abandon their!
  19. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha 5 May 2013 09: 29 New
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    The main disadvantage of an anti-personnel mine is its indiscriminate targeting. How many of their own are being undermined! And civilians?
    The future is controlled by minefields. We must stop the enemy-turned on.
    We must go by ourselves, turned off.
    At the current level of electronics, it’s easy
  20. TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 5 May 2013 12: 25 New
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    tell him about anti-personnel horror:
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 23 August 2013 17: 16 New
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      Damn himself, he boldly communicates with her. request
  21. ABV
    ABV 5 May 2013 16: 15 New
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    Deja vu ??? literally recently, this article was on this site ....
  22. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 6 May 2013 13: 58 New
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    Thanks to the author of the article! And a big bow from colleagues and cadets of the Tyumen command engineer troops! .. Yuri G. Veremeev continues to educate the masses ... Half of his diploma is owed to him (his work on military-historical subjects).
    Comrade Sapper is no less respectful; for komenty, it is weighed in the case.
  23. adolph1
    adolph1 6 May 2013 22: 11 New
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    The author, of course, excuse me, but I also want to scold you and with a three-story mat! You ask why? I will answer you. You write about the different probabilities, about the fact that soldiers will slander and become easy targets, about the fact that it is better to run forward to the enemy and punish him, etc. But what do you think is the main thing in battle? I believe that the main thing is to survive, and to the best of my ability not to let the enemy survive and complete the combat mission! Although a controversial issue about a combat mission, it can stay alive today and retreat and still try tomorrow or die a hero today without reaching the goal! The very fact of one living healthy soldier is somewhere on the flank, even if he doesn’t shoot, but just looms and distracts him, makes the enemy get distracted by certain forces, etc. And you say, run the soldier forward to success! What are you talking about? Is everything all right with your brain? Your phrase "the more experienced the soldier, the more he is afraid of mines!" You know, I would also not dare to break through a minefield! This is at least stupid! After all, the enemy knowing that there will not go a minefield, which means we will meet on the flank! If you propose to mine minefields with people, then I will skip you forward to success! We have come up with such wonderful demining installations such as UR-77!
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  25. SOUTH,
    SOUTH, 19 May 2013 19: 48 New
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    About mines "Hunting" or "Hunting2" would tell someone.