Oboronprom will produce Swiss machine tools in Russia

For the first time in Russia, a joint Russian-Swiss production of metal-working machine tools opens. Now EDM machines, milling machining centers and heat-treatment furnaces will be produced at the enterprises of the united industrial corporation Oboronprom together with the group of companies Georg Fischer Group, Galika AG and Codere SA

Today, the market for EDM machines in Russia is more than 90% represented by imports. This is due to the low quality level of Russian machine tools: they were developed in the last century and most of the technologies used in them turned more than 20 years.

Last year, the OPK Oboronprom company developed a project for organizing the joint production of high-tech electro-erosion equipment in Russia, first a nodal assembly, and later a deeper localization of production. First of all, companies from Europe were considered, since components will be supplied from abroad for the first time, and delivery times from Asia are significantly higher for obvious reasons.

For co-production, the well-known Swiss company GF AgieCharmilles (GF AzhiSharmiy) was chosen. Before the merger into 2007, led by the concern Georg Fischer, these were two separate companies - the pioneers in the field of electroerosia "AGIE" and "CHARMILLES", which developed in parallel since 1952.

The OPK Oboronprom company had a serious task - to choose the most suitable platform for launching joint production. As a favorite, one of the oldest enterprises of the Russian industry, located not far from Moscow, was chosen - "Savelovsky Machine-Building Plant" in the city of Kimry. Now it is a large full-cycle enterprise for the production of machine tools in Russia. The plant has retained valuable machine tool specialists with extensive experience.

Founded in 1915, the plant has so far been involved in the production of machining equipment, which is supplied to Russia and abroad. In 2012, the Savelovsky Machine-Building Plant became part of the United Industrial Corporation Oboronprom.

In January of this year, the head of the Oboronprom defense and industrial complex companies Dmitry Lelikov, Galika AG Lino Derungs and GFAgieCharmilles Pascal Baya signed an agreement on launching an assembly production of electroerosive equipment at the Savelovsky machine-building plant. The first machine released was shown at the exhibition "Metalworking-2013", which took place at the end of May, and was donated to MGTU STANKIN.

According to the first vice-president of the AgieCharmilles concern Bernd Kasper, the new project includes the latest achievements of the global machine tool industry. "Swiss specialists are providing and will provide comprehensive assistance to their Russian colleagues in the development of this investment project. The cooperation program provides for the training of engineers and technicians from Russia in Switzerland," said Kasper. He stressed that for the Swiss side it will be a matter of principle to comply with the highest quality standards when starting production in Russia.

Sergey Makarov, General Director of OAO Stankoprom, in turn, stressed that at present, Russia has embarked on a comprehensive upgrade of its production base. This applies to all industries, without exception, and primarily defense. Thanks to cooperation with foreign investors, prerequisites are created for the revival of the domestic machine tool industry.

Comments

[xmypp]

Let it be better than nothing at all, since we ourselves cannot (it may not be given by interested persons).

[Airman]

Quote: Xmypp

Let it be better than nothing at all, since we ourselves cannot (it may not be given by interested persons).

We adopt the Chinese experience, learn to copy, but on the basis of this, we need to go forward ourselves, and for this we need competent personnel.

[Siberian German]

I agree - Peter started something like this

[Aaron Zawi]

Great news . It is not at all necessary to invent a multiplication table, and to step forward is always easier from what has already been achieved.

[pa_nik]

What a news!!! We have machine tools .. ales. Though carcass, even skin, the main thing is that in our territory and for our production

[ultra]

Quote: pa_nik

We have machine tools .. ales.

No, this is a very soft definition! We have a full piz with this ... c! It will be more accurate! And not only with machine tools! Lipetsk Machine-Tool Plant (workshops were mostly demolished, a shopping and entertainment center was built, the plant of starting engines is closed (in former workshops sell furniture), the tractor plant practically does not work (a good decoration for the film of the disaster), from the same chain - the Pipe Plant, the Metallurgical "Free Sokol".

[Letnab]

Well, finally something positive !!! otherwise we only hear about the finished product ...

[sq]

From this we must begin to strengthen industry. Mass, I emphasize, mass production of quality products without good modern equipment is impossible, because the equipment not only wears out, it also establishes morally. Although many times I was convinced that the reason for all the recalled low quality of Soviet products is 99% only one - TECHNOLOGY NON-COMPLIANCE (manufacture, storage, operation and repair)

[Melchakov]

We need machines and their products NOW, better and strangers (but on our territory) than our own, but then, when it comes to our producers, until they turn around ... This is called competition, otherwise our monopolists are completely fed up. If you don’t want to work, you don’t have to, we will transfer orders to others. True, I feel that it will start like with the Mistrals. The media, with the money of our "producers", will shout about "guano-products" from abroad and praise "domestic" "which has no analogues in the world."

[ultra]

The main contribution to the offer of metalworking machines in the Russian market was made by imports. The import share in 2011 was 82% - 673 thousand units. The share of production in 2011 amounted to 1% of the supply volume - 5,1 thousand units. By the beginning of 2011, the stock of metalworking machines in the country amounted to 140 thousand pieces.

The largest decline in the production of metalworking machines was observed in 2009 - by 58,5% compared to last year. In 2010, the production of metalworking machines increased by 33% compared to last year and amounted to 4,2 thousand units. In 2011, the production of metalworking machine tools in Russia continued to grow and amounted to 5,1 thousand pieces. What kind of monopolism can be said here, there are practically no machine tools in the country!

[KCC]

Well, just very good news! It’s very agreeable to understand that the money allocated to upgrade production in the amount of 3 billion goes to business, we need to actively purchase technologies and upgrade factories, this is the basis of defense and high capabilities of new machines for the Moscow Region. Let's hope things go faster. I want to wish you good luck and success in this difficult task.

[pa_nik]

The progress of the domestic machine-tool industry is obvious - such an unambiguous conclusion was made by the Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Gleb Nikitin after familiarizing himself with the exposition of the Metalloobrabotka-2013 exhibition held these days at the Expocentre Fairgrounds.

This is confirmed by the statistics of the participants of the exhibition, one of the ten largest industrial shows in the world, and the exhibits displayed at it. Of the 1200 participating companies representing 40 countries, 700 are the leading machine-tool enterprises, organizations and engineering firms in Russia.
Gleb Nikitin was pleased to note that more than 20 stands examined by him showcase designs developed by order of the Ministry of Industry and Trade in the framework of the six-year machine tool development program adopted in 2011.

He said that the ministry is now auditing the results of the implementation of the first stage of the program (2011-2013) and in the near future will begin to formulate the topics for the second stage (2014-2016). Particular attention is paid to system integration, the development of the engineering services market, and full cycle engineering both in the country as a whole and in the corporate perimeter of companies with state participation. In particular, the state corporation Russian Technologies was tasked with "creating a full-fledged system integrator, which, among other things, will work on the interconnection of the program of the military-industrial complex with the program for the development of machine tool building."

More than 13 billion rubles are allocated from the federal budget for the entire machine tool development program. 6 billion rubles are planned for the implementation of its second stage. These budget funds will be spent on research, development, as well as on investment projects aimed at creating production facilities, the deputy head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade said.

He noted the high potential of the domestic machine tool industry. According to him, at the Metalloobrabotka-2013 exhibition one can see Russian-made machine tools exported to countries that are traditionally strong in machine-tool building, including the USA and Europe. "Domestic machine tool builders have a foundation for real competitiveness," Gleb Nikitin stated
"The impressions from the exhibition are bright, positive. What I saw made an even more positive impression than I expected. I hope that the exhibition will develop further, and the result will be contracts for the supply of samples, which were developed with the participation of the Ministry of Industry and Trade," said deputy minister.
He assured that the government "has a high level of attention to such a unique industry as machine tool construction, which is not only the main factor for the working capacity of all other industries, but also the basis for the transition to a new technological order."

[evg5835]

Interestingly, you yourself read what you quote here?

Quote: pa_nik

More than 13 billion rubles are allocated from the federal budget for the entire machine tool development program. 6 billion rubles are planned for the implementation of its second stage.

This is a miser !!! It was not by chance that Rogozin was given such great powers. These Manturovs, Nikitins are the second Serdyukovs, only in industry. So many good things have been cheated. What is now being done in machine tool building is hardly even half the first step; no progress has yet been made. In the article, by the way, it is written about it.

[cartridge]

... at present, Russia has embarked on a comprehensive upgrade of its production base. This applies to all industries without exception, and especially the defense. Thanks to cooperation with foreign investors, prerequisites are created for the revival of domestic machine tool building.

Well, God forbid, that these plans would come true. Without industry, there will be no Russia.

[Metlik]

It is necessary to connect science to the machine tool and instrument engineering in the most dense way. Give our institutes a job! This will have a double effect - the development of both science and industry. And you can’t spare money for this - this is a matter of the country's security.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The necessary production! jobs the most important thing .. It's a shame that not their machines but what .. Exchange of experience, so to speak.

[xmypp]

Quote: Povshnik

Quote: Xmypp

Let it be better than nothing at all, since we ourselves cannot (it may not be given by interested persons).

We adopt the Chinese experience, learn to copy, but on the basis of this, we need to go forward ourselves, and for this we need competent personnel.

With frames, namely young ones, it’s hard at the moment. Over the past 10 years in our country, economists and managers have been let out as a homna. Of the hard workers (specialists), 90% work as retirees, or before retirement age.
Here the specialist works for the machine tool, and they pay him 30 tr, and at the same production the manager kicks the bold for 60 tr That's all arithmetic.

[Grishka100watt]

So it was conceived by the Americans.

[Fregate]

Finally, they took up the machine tool industry, but how to plan the orders of equipment until 2020, yes, but nobody knows what and how to do it on.

[Imperial]

Machine tools and personnel, this is the cornerstone of heavy workmanship, the defense industry and the industry as a whole. If you have competent personnel, you can create anything on high-precision equipment, because we are rich in left-handed people, but with the means of production it’s not very, but recently in general no how.

[Ilyas]

And what do Ufa machines do not like?
http://www.indec-ecm.com/about_us/
Western Europe buys, Japan buys. The scale of production is certainly small, but it is better to invest in the development of your own, in my opinion.

[Pimply]

In fact, this is the best news for the defense industry for a long, long time. More important than any new missiles, Tigers, Armat, and more.

[ultra]

Quote: Pimply

In fact, this is the best news for the defense industry for a long, long time. More important than any new missiles, Tigers, Armat, and more.

No questions! Without the first there will be no second!

[MilaPhone]

I hope the Swiss machines are as accurate and reliable as their watches.

[pinecone]

Finally. The Swiss machine tool industry is one of the best in the world. The engineering school is at a very high level. It is a pity that the license for "Erlikons" was not bought in due time.

[Karabin]

I do not understand the euphoria about this. I see the positiveness of this news only in the fact that Swiss machines plan to update the park at least a little. Well, there are no machines of their own. Or they’re looking badly.
Then everything is ambiguous. It doesn't matter that they will be collected with us. Build is a penny. Increasing the localization of production from the area of ​​Wishlist. Just look at the auto industry. The degree of localization in the joint venture remains at a very low level. Localization in the production of tractors at the level of 16%. I don’t think it will be any differently in machine tool building. There are no conditions or interest of enterprises to increase it. We are becoming more and more dependent on other people's components. The Chinese experience of copying does not suit us, because Russia is bound by a copyright treaty. The volume of replacement of full-cycle industries with a "screwdriver" directly affects employment. In addition, they make the development and implementation of their own products problematic. As a result, we observe an outflow of specialists and ideas abroad. This situation is not the first year, and no one is going to fix it. We will repeatedly rejoice at the arrival of Western technologies in the industry, but we need to understand that no one will ever breed competitors for themselves. Even high-precision Swiss comrades. And everyone is always happy to have a sales market and a dependent partner.

[Ilyas]

http://www.indec-ecm.com/about_us/

But this is an enterprise for the production of EDM milling machines?

[penyvr]

eh still would revive domestic electronics ..

[ultra]

Quote: penyvr

eh still would revive domestic electronics

Here, too, everything is tied to the production of equipment, lithographic in particular, without modern lithography there will be no production of CHIPs, we do not produce such equipment at all, and overseas "friends" will not allow us to buy modern equipment! Rusnano (Chubais) bought equipment for production from an American company Chips with a dimension of 45-60 nm, and INTEL is going to produce a dimension of 10 nm.

[Airman]

Quote: ultra

Quote: penyvr

eh still would revive domestic electronics

Here, too, everything is tied to the production of equipment, lithographic in particular, without modern lithography there will be no production of CHIPs, we do not produce such equipment at all, and overseas "friends" will not allow us to buy modern equipment! Rusnano (Chubais) bought equipment for production from an American company Chips with a dimension of 45-60 nm, and INTEL is going to produce a dimension of 10 nm.

I repeat, the shortest joke - RUSNANO - CHUBAIS.