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Russia neutralizes US missile defense in Turkey

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Moscow has already deployed high-precision Iskander-M missile systems in Armenia


The possibility of deploying Russian operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) "Iskander-M" in Armenia should not worry Azerbaijan much. About this with a hefty share of mockery stated IA REGNUM expert on the problems of the Caucasus, Viktor Yakubyan. After all, the target for Iskander in this case is not Azerbaijani territory, but elements of the US global missile defense system in Turkey - an early warning radar and Patriot missile systems, he explained. However, he immediately added: “On the other hand, the presence of such missile systems in Armenia is an additional deterrent factor for Azerbaijan. He nullifies the aspirations to solve the problem (Nagorno-Karabakh. - Approx. KM.RU) by force if negotiations reach a dead end. That is why Baku is worried. ”

And in Baku they really got agitated, the Armenian media would smack. Here is what the resource Voskanapat.info writes, for example: “As expected, news about the arrival in Armenia of the Russian operational-tactical missile systems (PTRK) Iskander-M and multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) Tornado-G caused the effect of a bombshell on the oil-bearing shores of the Caspian Sea. Still, all the multimillion purchases of armaments voiced by the Transcaucasian Turks, the constant boasting about the military budget brought to 4 billion dollars and the threats from two Armenian states replicated from Baku turned into an empty sound in the blink of an eye. This doubly hurtful fact for the Turks was recorded at a time when the Azerbaijani electorate seemed to have begun to seriously believe in its hypothetical power that had never defeated the army and its ability to “restore the desecrated territorial integrity.”

Sweet euphoria in the camp of former nomads, as if by a wave of a magic wand, was replaced by a gloomy despondency. A couple of days ago, when the information portal Voskanapat.info first reported this news, one of the Azerbaijani tabloids wrote: “Armenians frighten Azerbaijan with the presence of Tornado-G and Iskander-M.” It seems that the representative of the Armenian agitprop was instructed to scare Azerbaijan. ”

Today, all Azerbaijani news agencies are doomed to replicate the news of Armenia’s receiving a formidable and highly effective modern tactical weapons already as a fait accompli. A series of tearful articles about “treachery and treachery of Russia”, “unfortunate misunderstood Azerbaijan” and its further difficult fate is expected to be published soon, ”Voskanapat.info mocks.

This resource is indeed the first to be notified of the arrival in Armenia of several installations of high-precision Iskander-M complexes. Then this information was spread throughout the world by the Armenian service of Radio Liberty, citing sources in the Ministry of Defense of Armenia. And the country's military department then secretly confirmed the authenticity of the arrival of the Iskander complexes to a number of publications.

However, this was discussed earlier: in the middle of May of this year, military sources told REGNUM about the possibility of deploying Iskander-M OTRK and Tornado-G multiple-launch rocket systems in Armenia, and even indicated the location of their deployment - 102 military base of Russia, which is located in Gyumri.

It is worth noting, by the way, that Moscow sent there a non-export version of the complexes (Iskander-E), the range of which does not exceed 300 kilometers, but the Iskander-M, which is native for the Russian army and capable of hitting targets with a deviation of 1- 2 meters at a distance of 500 kilometers. “Fiery greetings of Baku,” Voskanapat.info says in connection with this.

And yet, of course, Moscow sent to Armenia such a formidable weapon for any enemy, not so much to deter Azerbaijan, but to counter the threat posed by the components of the US missile defense system in Turkey. And also, undoubtedly, for the general strengthening of its military-strategic presence in the macro-region of the Greater Middle East, as it is now called. And here the aforementioned Viktor Yakubyan is absolutely right: “Such a move on the part of Russia would be very logical. We remember the intention of Moscow to deploy the Iskander complexes in Kaliningrad in the event of the appearance of Patriot missiles in Poland. The Americans refrained from this step, and Russia did not begin to take Polish territory as a near sight. But in Turkey, elements of the US missile defense system were still deployed, which was the reason for Russia's countermeasures. It’s hard to imagine a better platform for Iskander than Armenia, a member of the CSTO, all the more so since the Russian military base is deployed on a long-term basis. ”

Another expert, Hayasa military analyst Leonid Nersisyan, adheres to a similar view, who in an interview with REGNUM news agency noted that the deployment of Iskander-M complexes in Armenia will bring the strategic potential of the Russian military base in Gyumri to a new regional level. “Russia will thereby noticeably raise its weight in the region and will be able to effectively resist the possible threats associated with the spread of destabilization. This may be especially relevant in the event of the start of a military operation by Israel and the United States against Iran, since the balance in the region in such a case can collapse like a house of cards, ”Nersisyan believes.

According to the expert, there is a clear need for strengthening the air forces and high-precision missile weapons in Armenia: “Aviation The Russian Federation in Armenia is represented by only one squadron of rather outdated fighters, which also practically do not have the ability to strike at ground targets and break through a powerful air defense system. On the other hand, we see the actively strengthening Turkish Air Force. With a very high probability, in the coming years they will begin to receive fifth-generation American fighter F-35s, which the MiG-29s are clearly not suitable for fighting. And at the moment, 18 MiG-29 fighters, even despite the excellent flight personnel, can compete, and even then with difficulty, only with the Air Force of Azerbaijan and Georgia. Naturally, there can be no question of any rivalry with more than 200 Turkish F-16s. From all of the above, we can conclude: the Russian Federation needs both qualitatively and quantitatively to strengthen the aviation group. The most high-quality and powerful option at the moment seems to be the deployment of 4+ or 4 ++ generation fighters, such as Su-27SM3, Su-30SM or Su-35S. ”

And such a development of events is by no means an empty dream of one expert. As Secretary of the National Security Council of Armenia Arthur Baghdasaryan said yesterday on the Armenian Yerkir Media TV channel, new Russian military bases will open in Armenia (besides the already existing 102), including the CSTO Joint Aviation Base. Armenian media, by the way, do not exclude that it will be deployed in Karabakh. In addition, the Transcaucasian association of the CSTO forces and the base of the CSTO operational response forces will be deployed in Armenia. Armenia strengthens relations with Russia and the CSTO, the Secretary of the National Security Council said.

So, the decision of Moscow to modernize the military base in Gyumri with Iskander-M systems has, apparently, become an important starting point for a whole set of measures to strengthen our country's military-strategic presence in the entire Transcaucasian and, more broadly, the Greater Middle Eastern region, which literally before our eyes, international “democratizers” are trying to reshape. Moreover, it is worth noting its timeliness, but also, so to speak, a very high efficiency. Russia would always respond to military-geopolitical challenges thrown to her by fate!
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  1. Army1
    Army1 8 June 2013 16: 04 New
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    It seems to me that the radius of the BALLISTIC rocket of the Iskader complex is higher than 500 km.
    1. T-100
      T-100 8 June 2013 18: 43 New
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      I watched the video where, when Ivanov was still a min of defense, he said that the declared range of 500 km, and the maximum range is classified))) you can google something like that))))
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 8 June 2013 19: 05 New
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        Quote: T-100
        I watched the video where, when Ivanov was still a min of defense, he said that the declared range of 500 km, and the maximum range is classified))) you can google something like that))))

        They said that if desired, missiles with a range of up to 2500 km can be placed on the complex.
        But if they are available, it’s a b..o..o..big secret. Ah, officially not ...
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 8 June 2013 19: 54 New
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          Quote: Russ69
          But if they are available, it’s a b..o..o..big secret. Ah, officially no ..


          2007 year tested P-500 for Iskander, if Ivanov does not whistle then the range 2 000 km.
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 8 June 2013 19: 58 New
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            Quote: Vadivak
            2007 year tested P-500 for Iskander, if Ivanov does not whistle then the range 2 000 km.

            Once tested, then there is, in extreme cases, you can start production if necessary.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 8 June 2013 20: 02 New
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              Quote: Russ69
              Once tested, then there is, in extreme cases, you can start production if necessary.


              So engines for them in Omsk do, so there is a need
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 9 June 2013 01: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            Quote: Russ69
            But if they are available, it’s a b..o..o..big secret. Ah, officially no ..


            2007 year tested P-500 for Iskander, if Ivanov does not whistle then the range 2 000 km.


            Meaning to whistle him? Amid the general collapse of the sun? It’s just that such a weapon falls under the treaty of limitation ... of something there ... but in principle it is available.
          3. Alexander_
            Alexander_ 9 June 2013 02: 21 New
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            2000 is the correct range, soothing.
          4. postman
            postman 9 June 2013 05: 26 New
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            Quote: Vadivak
            Ivanov does not whistle then a range of 2 km.

            this is not real in the mass overall characteristics of the rocket and pu.
            Ivanov whistles, ALWAYS
            1. postman
              postman 9 June 2013 17: 30 New
              +1
              6!
              And at least argumentIK (about the argument is silent)
              1) TTX missiles (with TRDD-50AT):

              Mass of warhead - 480 kg

              Range - 500 km
              (up to 700 km in doubtful data)
              Flight speed - 230-260 m / s
              Flight duration - 24 minutes (at launch May 29.05.2007, XNUMX)
              QUO - about 1 m
              Deviation on the route - up to 30 m (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
              === 230 m / s x 60 sec x 24 min = 331 km 200 m
              The TTX R-500 is not in the open press, but a priori it cannot exceed (due to PUU) the TTX 9M723 and FAST EVERYTHING coincide with the Grenade (3M-10)
              Length - 8.09 m
              Diameter - 0.51 m
              Wingspan - 3.3 m
              Starting weight - 1.7 t AT JAW 120 - 140 kg
              2) BGM-109C up to 1600 km at 320 kg warhead and 1450 kg-WITHOUT BOOSTER?
          5. Alexei
            Alexei 9 June 2013 16: 44 New
            +3
            Quote: Vadivak
            2007 year tested P-500 for Iskander, if Ivanov does not whistle then the range 2 000 km.

            Duck Ivanov always whistled, he is a modest man. I understand him, sometimes there is an urgent need to stoop.
        2. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 8 June 2013 20: 15 New
          +9
          Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
          P-500 is a Russian medium-range cruise missile designed for the Iskander [3] complex, capable, according to the statement of First Deputy Prime Minister Sergey Ivanov, to overcome all existing and promising missile defense systems [4].
          According to wikileaks, the P-500 high-precision subsonic cruise missile is a more modern version of the Soviet 3M10 "Grenade" with a radius of 2600 km, which was created to arm the Soviet submarines. As of the 2011 year, six P-500 [5] [6] have been manufactured.
          The first P-500 tests took place on 29 on May 2007 at the Russian Defense Ministry’s training ground in Kapustin Yar in 17: 50 Moscow time [7] The rocket was launched by the Iskander-K complex [8] According to Ivanov, the tests were successful [9]
          1. postman
            postman 9 June 2013 17: 33 New
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            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

            Вы хоть этот "свободный материал" дочитайте до конца,прежде чем постить.
            Wiki in a puddle again.
            Writes about 2600km, gives a link to:
            http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-304.html
            WHERE SAID:
            TTX missiles:

            Mass of warhead - 480 kg

            Range - 500 km (up to 700 km according to doubtful data)
            Airspeed - 230-260 m / s
            Flight Duration - 24 min (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
            QUO - about 1 m
            Deviation on the route - up to 30 m (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
        3. cartridge
          cartridge 8 June 2013 20: 55 New
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          Russia will never accept the threat of defeat of Armenia and its destruction as a pro-Russian state. Inflating the military threat to Armenia, the Azerbaijani side is compressing the Russian military spring, which, when straightened, will hit precisely Azerbaijan. It should be remembered that the military strengthening of Azerbaijan also increases the risk of a military attack by the United States and its allies on Iran using the territory of Azerbaijan. In this situation, Tehran will willingly support both Yerevan and Moscow in their confrontation with Baku. soldier
          1. Gooch
            Gooch 8 June 2013 21: 13 New
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            Quote: cartridge
            In this situation, Tehran will willingly support both Yerevan and Moscow in their confrontation with Baku.

            В этой ситуации Тегеран обалдеет от реакции жителей такого маленького остана как "Южный Азербайджан" и на 90% уверен что Тегеран от не совсем уж радужной реакции этих жителей испытакет такой бугурт, что моментально отложит свои мысли о прямой поддержке Еревана и противостояния Баку.
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            2. cartridge
              cartridge 8 June 2013 22: 17 New
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              You really want to think so, IMHO. But these speculations have nothing to do with reality.
              Here is a quote from an interview with Heydar Cemal.

              - You also predicted the possibility of creating a united Azerbaijan.
              - I must emphasize that the Azerbaijanis of Iran in relation to Northern Azerbaijan come out with rather arrogant, imperial positions. They see it as a psychologically and morally degraded part of Azerbaijan that needs to be well shaken and raised to its level. That is, they consider themselves to be strong, proactive, highly organized people with principles and ideals. While they consider their northern compatriots people who have largely relaxed, lost incentives, the ability to control life, provide for themselves, and observe traditional norms. And they consider the Azerbaijanis of the North guilty of losing part of the national territory due to obvious relaxation and some kind of character defects. Therefore, conversations with this kind of people led me to the conclusion that the Azerbaijanis of the North should not expect anything good from such a union.

              So be sure that your brothers from the south will by no means strive to become cannon fodder for Aliyev. Most likely they will remain out of the battle, and after its end they will try to take all the few warm places on the remains of today's Azerbaijan. And then where do you personally get away if you happen to survive in this war? You certainly do not have money to emigrate to Europe, or even to Turkey, to buy housing there and live in abundance. Yes, you, Azerbaijanis, are still not expected there today, and even more so in the rank of the defeated ... Will you cross into the gates of the Russian border post, trying to soften the border guards with compassionate fables about your eternal love for Russia and what value you have for us? Do not. You don’t need it for nothing, I swear by mom hi
              1. Gooch
                Gooch 8 June 2013 22: 31 New
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                Quote: cartridge
                Therefore, conversations with this kind of people led me to the conclusion that the Azerbaijanis of the North should not expect anything good from such a union.



                Armenia offers military assistance to Iran to suppress riot of Azerbaijanis
                During secret negotiations, the Armenian Ambassador to Iran, Gegham Garibjanian, suggested that the Iranian authorities bring military forces from Armenia to suppress actions in South Azerbaijan.

                This was announced by a member of the Committee to Support the National Movement of South Azerbaijan and the Congress of World Azerbaijanis, Siruz Azadi.

                According to him, there is no doubt that the parties have reached a consensus: “It is quite possible that specially trained military forces will be brought from Armenia to suppress shares in South Azerbaijan.”



                Mahmoudali Chekhraganly: “Iranian authorities use“ Hizbullah ”and“ Jihad Islami ”militants against Azerbaijanis
                The Iranian authorities use the militants Hizbullah and Jihad Islami to suppress the performance of Azerbaijanis.

                This was stated by the leader of the National Awakening Movement of South Azerbaijan (DNPUA) Mahmoudali Chekhraganli.

                Law enforcement forces counteract demonstrations, but this does not produce the desired results.

                Therefore, the Iranian authorities have recently used armed mercenaries to suppress protests. So, according to him, in a number of cities, people armed with machine guns with closed faces were used against protesters.

                They opened fire on protesters, killing several people. Some of them were detained and it turned out that they were Palestinians from the terrorist organizations Hizbullah and Jihad Islami.


                Will you cross into the gates of the Russian border post, trying to soften the border guards with compassionate fables about your eternal love for Russia and what value you have for us? Do not. You don’t need it for nothing, I swear by mom

                This is to what extent one must not respect oneself in order to swear to God knows what dispute, my own mother, I will explain for those who are in the tank, I am not Azerbaijani, I live not in Azerbaijan, rest assured, an adequate person, from Baku, to Russia to some kind of ust-poposk will not go for any money, even if there will be a fiercely hellish war in Azerbaijan
                1. nickname 1 and 2
                  nickname 1 and 2 8 June 2013 23: 07 New
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                  Quote: Gooch
                  from Baku, to Russia, to some sort of ust-poposok for any money will not go,


                  Trigger trigger ........
                2. old man54
                  old man54 9 June 2013 06: 28 New
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                  Quote: Gooch
                  I’m not an Azerbaijani, I don’t live in Azerbaijan, rest assured, an adequate person, from Baku, will not go to Russia for some money, even if there will be a fiercely hellish war in Azerbaijan

                  and you have long gone out into the streets of Russian cities, not of course, but in the periphery? Have you been to the markets? :))) There probably are only Tajiks and azeri at all, right?))
                3. Good Ukraine
                  Good Ukraine 9 June 2013 12: 37 New
                  +5
                  fool
                  Quote: Gooch
                  an adequate person, from Baku, to some sort of ust-poposok for Russia does not go for any money, even if there will be a fiercely hellish war in Azerbaijan


                  They all moved in peacetime. laughing
                  1. Gooch
                    Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 32 New
                    -5
                    Quote: Good Ukraine
                    fool
                    Quote: Gooch
                    an adequate person, from Baku, to some sort of ust-poposok for Russia does not go for any money, even if there will be a fiercely hellish war in Azerbaijan


                    They all moved in peacetime. laughing

                    ALL? who's everyone? You look at Baku, and at a typical Russian Muhosra. Some kind of one, I don’t argue from the village, they go, to work, the layman from the Russian village think Bach is listening? And in between symphonies, does Dostoevsky read heavily? Azerbaijanis, even in a foreign country, not knowing the language, not having a residence permit, or connections, make money out of the blue, don’t drink, pull each other up, and get money for their work that Russian Ivan could have got if he hadn’t been thirsty with weekly bouts, but tried to change something in life
                    1. valerii41
                      valerii41 29 June 2013 19: 42 New
                      0
                      Sir Gooch was buzzing mainly at construction sites and in mines and factories it was strictly plus self-discipline rotating parts of the machine a serious thing at chemical plants and mines one spark in one fell swoop of more than 100 people. Azeri Armenians Georgians Uzbek stuck in the markets a bag of apricot bag of money a barrel of potassium permanganate (wine ) a barrel of money. Local collective farmers were not allowed to enter the markets because everything was bought the same thing now. People who are used to the markets of the city, hospitals, universities, universities do not want to build mines and do not know how to enter institutions as minorities without exams and bribes . For multifunctional machines, you need to have a secondary special or higher education. In a quarry with a 320 ton truck with 11 classes, there is nothing to do. Representatives of the Transcaucasian tribes, as a rule, are teachers of history and the ability to weigh shortcuts and draw in front of Russian bedding to raise and approximate the weakness of our rulers. It turns out not bad thief leaders but technical specialists
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 33 New
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                Patron. And now, go on to the rest of the interview. - What is going on in the meantime in the Karabakh conflict? In Baku, with some optimism, they received the latest statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that the status quo in the conflict does not suit Russia. There were those who stated that Moscow even took a step in favor of Baku ...

                - The current leadership of Russia cannot take a fundamental step towards Azerbaijan. It can only dramatize, make appearances. The current leadership is the heir to the difficult Soviet era, which can be safely called pro-Armenian. Soviet power was closely linked to the Armenian factor. It is enough to recall Bagirov’s ties with Mikoyan and others, which ultimately led to the loss of Azerbaijani territories.

                On the other hand, I have repeatedly said that even if Serzh Sargsyan puts his signature on all the documents that suit Azerbaijan, it will not work. The signature will remain on paper, because nationalist forces in Armenia and beyond will not allow the government in Yerevan to take this step.

                It must also be understood that the current government in Russia is a continuation of the Soviet one. A radical political transformation of the Kremlin’s regime and policies is needed for Russia to side with Azerbaijan

                - What caused the need for the Russian side to strengthen the 102nd military base in Armenia with the Iskander-M operational tactical missile system (OTRK) and the Tornado multiple launch rocket system?

                - These are just attempts to increase your negotiation capital and oppose NATO. To a large extent, these complexes will also ensure the interests of the West, because any pumping of tension in the region will affect energy interests.
                1. dmitrich
                  dmitrich 9 June 2013 07: 02 New
                  +3
                  and as you like.
              3. xetai9977
                xetai9977 9 June 2013 10: 12 New
                -13
                Patron, you belong to the type of philistines who themselves invent a fairy tale and believe in it themselves. They painted an apocalyptic picture here ... You won’t wait. For you, the interests of Armenia are more important than the interests of Russia.
                1. Mikhail3
                  Mikhail3 9 June 2013 10: 31 New
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                  Do not quite understand. The orientation of Armenia is clearly and consistently pro-Russian. While Azerbaijan clearly focuses on the SGA. Where are Russian interests here, you don’t have to think long ...
                  1. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 9 June 2013 10: 35 New
                    -12
                    Михаил, вы в курсе того ,как относятся в армении к России? вот лишь некоторые эпитеты"больная Россия""колосс на глинянных ногах""алкоголики""армения без России проживет,а Россия без армении нет". и т.д. хотите ссылочку?могу дать
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                    2. Egevich
                      Egevich 9 June 2013 12: 00 New
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                      вы ссылочку на что дать хотите?... на очередной "изыск" пропаганды? я в Ростове-на-Дону живу, и не по ссылочкам хожу, а с нахичеванскими армянами и их приезжими родственниками общаюсь ежедневно... вы такую хрень несете... вай-вай, дорогой... да ни один здравомыслящий армянин никогда и представлять не будет, как он обойдется без России и не обойдется без Турции и Азербайджана... ставлю вам жирный минус за невладение темой
                      1. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 9 June 2013 16: 54 New
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                        ВАМ ещё большой минус за то что не удосужились понять, что речь идет О АРМЯНСКОМ САЙТЕ .ПРОЧТИТЕ НА ДОСУГЕ,ЧТО О ВАС ПИШУТ "БРАТЬЯ-СОЮЗНИЧКИ" www.armenianreport.com/pubs/60454
                        www.armenianreport.com/pubs/60368.
                    3. AntonR7
                      AntonR7 9 June 2013 14: 43 New
                      +6
                      Just the same, the Armenians understand that Russia is their only hope and support since they are surrounded by hostile Muslims on all sides, and we have always helped them out.
                      1. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 9 June 2013 16: 55 New
                        -4
                        look over. links
                      2. valerii41
                        valerii41 9 June 2013 21: 28 New
                        +2
                        "Как раз таки армяне понимают,что Россия их единственная надежда" и глубоко внедряются во властные и экономические структуры не без помощи взяток знакомствипрочее.
                2. Our
                  Our 13 December 2013 19: 19 New
                  +1
                  It’s natural to bring enemies. Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, can only rely on itself. All of this cheese and boron is for the sole purpose of forcing Azerbaijan to make a choice. Since it keeps neutrol it is not profitable either for Russia or the West. But in Baku, too, are not fools. And this is evidenced by the growth of the economy, the strengthening of troops despite the unfriendly actions of all neighbors except Turkey and the neutrality of Georgia
          2. valerii41
            valerii41 9 June 2013 21: 18 New
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            Azerbaijanis bastanut in our markets our whole economy will fly into the abyss along with a hungry army
        4. piotr534
          piotr534 9 June 2013 00: 27 New
          +5
          They said that if desired, missiles with a range of up to 2500 km can be placed on the complex.
          But if they are available, it’s a b..o..o..big secret. Ah, officially not ...
          Да проходила такая инфа,когда муссировался волрос с Польскими "патриотами" и нашими "искандерами" в Калининграде.
        5. nersmail
          nersmail 11 June 2013 18: 47 New
          0
          there is dull like, in P-500, the range is either 500km or 2000km. It seems to me, 500 after all. And the name confirms it more likely
      2. politruk419
        politruk419 9 June 2013 03: 46 New
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        Good Soviet tradition. We are not Americans. And therefore we do not strive to declare all the possibilities for using our weapons, but on the contrary we strive to somewhat lower its performance characteristics. Let the adversary not be afraid of our commercials, but that they don’t write in the directories. It’s even more interesting.))))
      3. Nick
        Nick 9 June 2013 12: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: T-100
        declared range of 500 km, and the maximum range is classified))

        The complex is equipped with various types of missiles, with different ranges. With the R-500 missile, the range of the complex is about 2500 km.
    2. Atrix
      Atrix 8 June 2013 18: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: Army1
      actively reinforced Turkish Air Force. With a very high probability they will begin to receive America in the coming years

      Above is impossible otherwise it falls already under the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles
      In accordance with the agreement, the parties had to destroy all ground-based launchers and missiles with a range of 500 to 5500 kilometers, including missiles in both European and Asian territories, within three years
    3. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 8 June 2013 18: 46 New
      +7
      Naturally, there can be no question of any rivalry with more than 200 Turkish F-16s.

      What is the rivalry of a pug with an elephant in FIG?
      Or did Turkey have a strategic nuclear forces?
      Or complexes comparable to the S-300 - S-400?

      Weapons and armament of air defense of Armenia as of 2010.

      S-300 medium-range air defense systems least 3 divisions.
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D1%91%D0%BD%D0
      %BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0
      % B8


      S-300V air defense systems in Armenia






      http://vpk-news.ru/photographs/gallery/961#slide-5-field_gallery-12197

      1. Arberes
        Arberes 8 June 2013 18: 59 New
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        Quote: GreatRussia
        Or did Turkey have a strategic nuclear forces?

        What does SNF have to do with it? Do you seriously think that in a local conflict with Turkey (God forbid), RUSSIA will use a nuclear club?
        Turks, by and large, do not need nuclear weapons! This is a member country of NATO.
        And without them there will be someone to answer. hi
        At the expense of comparing pugs with an elephant, you are also somewhat mistaken. This is a country with a developed economy, they are equal with us in terms of population. The Turkish Navy and Army are some of the most powerful in this region, like that!
        Well, to strengthen our Air Force in Armenia, I personally am for it!
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 8 June 2013 19: 05 New
          10
          Quote: Arberes
          What does SNF have to do with it? Do you seriously think that in a local conflict with Turkey (God forbid), RUSSIA will use a nuclear club?

          I seriously think that this is a member of NATO. And a large-scale conflict with the use of such a number of aircraft means full-scale hostilities with all the consequences.

          Quote: Arberes
          At the expense of comparing pugs with an elephant, you are also somewhat mistaken. This is a country with a developed economy, they are equal with us in terms of population. The Turkish Navy and Army are some of the most powerful in this region, like that!
          Well, to strengthen our Air Force in Armenia, I personally am for it!

          I, too, with both hands FOR.
          This does not mean that Turkey will risk unleashing hostilities against Russia, which would undoubtedly mean an attack on Russian bases in Armenia.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 8 June 2013 19: 22 New
            +2
            Quote: GreatRussia
            And a large-scale conflict with the use of such a number of aircraft means full-scale hostilities with all the consequences.

            Hello again, dear GreatRussia hi
            However, history knows many conflicts with the use of a large number of aircraft!
            VIETNAM, KOREA - did both Soviet pilots and American do their job there?
            I must add that these wars took place in the territories of third world countries!
            What do I bring these comparisons to? If the conflict with Turkey begins, the main hostilities will unfold in the Black Sea and in the territory of the aforementioned Armenia. And this is not a reason to use nuclear weapons?
            1. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia 8 June 2013 19: 26 New
              12
              Quote: Arberes
              However, history knows many conflicts with the use of a large number of aircraft!
              VIETNAM, KOREA - did both the Soviet pilots and the American do their job there? I must add that these wars took place in the territories of third world countries!

              Firstly, Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and not a third world country.
              Secondly, the article deals with a certain rivalry between Turkey and Russia over the means of 200 tons of Turkish combat aircraft.
              This is a full-scale fighting, whatever one may say.


              If the conflict with Turkey begins, the main hostilities will unfold in the Black Sea and in the territory of the aforementioned Armenia. And this is not a reason to use nuclear weapons?

              Turkey is a member of NATO. That would mean a full-blown war anyway.
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 8 June 2013 19: 45 New
                +3
                Quote: GreatRussia
                Firstly, Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and not a third world country.

                You are absolutely right.
                Quote: GreatRussia
                Turkey is a member of NATO. That would mean a full-blown war anyway.

                Here I do not agree with you, if the conflict does not go beyond the boundaries I have mentioned, then there will be no need to use nuclear weapons. The problem (I apologize for the cynical expression) will be solved by high-tech and conventional weapons. And it won’t last long - you have to urgently negotiate and seek compromises.
                1. GreatRussia
                  GreatRussia 8 June 2013 19: 54 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Arberes
                  Here I do not agree with you, if the conflict does not go beyond the boundaries I have mentioned, then there will be no need to use nuclear weapons. The problem (I apologize for the cynical expression) will be solved by high-tech and conventional weapons. And it won’t last long - you have to urgently negotiate and seek compromises.

                  He will come out anyway.

                  One of NATO's stated goals is to deter or defend against any form of aggression against the territory of any NATO member state.


                  Moreover, when attacking Turkish military facilities with conventional weapons, we will only one-hundred-square-foot United States Incirlik base.

                  We have at the moment and in the very near future without the use of nuclear weapons, there is not enough power to fight against all of NATO.
                  And what actually in this case will prevent the use of nuclear weapons in Turkey?
                  1. Arberes
                    Arberes 8 June 2013 20: 09 New
                    +5
                    Quote: GreatRussia
                    And what actually in this case will prevent the use of nuclear weapons in Turkey?

                    Retaliatory nuclear strike! The nuclear weapons are now a deterrent from a direct attack on our MOTHERLAND and will still be applied if the same nuclear weapons are used against our allies, for example, BELARUS.
                    1. GreatRussia
                      GreatRussia 8 June 2013 20: 16 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Arberes
                      Retaliatory nuclear strike! NF is now a deterrent from a direct attack on our homeland

                      The attack on our bases by the NATO countries is precisely what this means. )))


                      Quote: Arberes
                      Retaliatory nuclear strike! The nuclear weapons are now a deterrent from a direct attack on our MOTHERLAND and will still be applied if the same nuclear weapons are used against our allies, for example, BELARUS.

                      In this case, what could be an attack with 200 airplanes (the rivalry stated in the article)? ))))
                      1. Arberes
                        Arberes 8 June 2013 20: 29 New
                        +4
                        Quote: GreatRussia
                        In this case, what could be an attack with 200 planes

                        These aircraft are likely to cover the sky of AZERBAIJAN.
                        My main point. that the conflict will be local and that it won’t reach nuclear weapons.
                        It is only necessary to apply once and everything will be different and it is unlikely that something can be changed?
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 39 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Arberes
                        My main point. that the conflict will be local and that it won’t reach nuclear weapons.

                        You're right!
                        That’s why it’s still not happened, because those countries that have a voice in the world do not want this for various reasons! The West does not want the energy supplies from the Caspian Sea to Europe to be damaged, and Russia does not want its borders at this difficult time for it there was a problem! They don’t want to put their own guys for other boys, and without this they cannot help an ally!
                        Therefore, if there is a war it will be fleeting and it will become more and more real!
                        Everyone wants to change the status quo, but they can’t!
                        To do this, I think they will give war for a week, so that the other side becomes more compliant !!
                      3. Arberes
                        Arberes 8 June 2013 20: 42 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        To do this, I think they will give war for a week, so that the other side becomes more compliant !!

                        Here I completely agree with you.
                        I want to ask you one question.
                        DOES AZERBAIJAN and TURKEY have any agreements on mutual cooperation and assistance?
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 53 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Arberes
                        DOES AZERBAIJAN and TURKEY have any agreements on mutual cooperation and assistance?

                        There is a military-strategic agreement on mutual assistance, but Turkey is a NATO member and this must also be taken into account !! If Western partners click on it, they are unlikely to be able to help with the army, except with arms, we have our own !!
                      5. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 21: 21 New
                        13
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        There is a military-strategic agreement on mutual assistance, but Turkey is a member of NATO

                        Alibek! Here are the answers to all questions why Armenia is an ally of Russia request From its territory, Turks are easier to slaughter for two reasons: the first is more convenient good second Armenia not wassat Turkey will come out of the country, it is not known how it will turn further
                      6. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 8 June 2013 21: 32 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Alibek! Here are the answers to all questions why Armenia is an ally of Russia

                        No dear Ruslan, this is not the answer!)))
                        This agreement was signed relatively recently, if the memory serves in 2010 or 2011 !!)))
                        That is a necessary measure !!
                      7. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 21: 40 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        -This is not an answer!

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Turkey is a member of NATO

                        Alibek, I probably highlighted too much text and the meaning has changed a little request You have nothing to do with it and your showdown is an annoying hindrance
                      8. atalef
                        atalef 8 June 2013 21: 49 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Alibek! Here are the answers to all questions why Armenia is an ally of Russia

                        Sorry, I will insert my 3 pennies. maybe not quite in your area.
                        Armenians cannot be allies. because they have never been to anyone. all their agreements are temporary agreements designed to serve their momentary problems, without any aim for the future.
                        I have nothing against the Armenians. but it happened. that there was no other. Even in the USSR, Armenia was the only mono-republic. (i.e. 98.5% of Armenians lived there)
                        I don’t know why and don’t want to know. People vote with their feet. if only Armenians lived there. it means only the Armenians could survive there (for others it was somehow uncomfortable)
                        Why? Let the Armenians figure it out for themselves. but it's not just that.
                      9. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 21: 55 New
                        +2
                        Quote: atalef
                        Armenians cannot be allies. because they have never been to anyone

                        Well, I tried to express roughly the same thing more or less correctly repeat But if in plain text this is a bridgehead from which it is convenient to hammer and which is not a pity, But Turkey itself will have to think ten times before jerking: Russia will crush on them and they will have to answer in Armenia Well, who is it except for those who are still there worries?
                      10. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 22: 09 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Well, and who is it besides those who are still there worried?

                        Already understood, from whom the minus arrived wassat Only gentlemen of minus signers would ask them to assess the state of things soberly and not put pressure on a tear and emotions. In geopolitics, when the world smoothly accelerates, it flies into the abyss. hi
                      11. Hairy Siberian
                        Hairy Siberian 8 June 2013 22: 19 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        I already understood, from whom the minus flew in. Only the gentlemen of the minuscule people would ask me to assess the state of things soberly and not put pressure on a tear and emotions. In geopolitics, when the world smoothly accelerates, it flies into the abyss.

                        I put the minus. For your arrogance and pathos when you write about countries in which millions of people live. You do not need to imagine yourself the accomplisher of destinies. Geopolitics is garbage, compared to people's lives.
                      12. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 22: 23 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        I put the minus. For your arrogance and pathos

                        Put + for conviction
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        Geopolitics is bullshit compared to people's lives.

                        Of course bullshit ... for those who survive They will have the opportunity to speculate on this topic And can I ask a question? -Compared with the lives of whose people?
                      13. Hairy Siberian
                        Hairy Siberian 8 June 2013 22: 34 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        - Compared to the lives of whose people?

                        The lives of all people!
                        Remember them when you write this:
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        it is a bridgehead from which it is convenient to hammer and which is not a pity
                      14. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 June 2013 22: 49 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        The lives of all people!

                        And you are a general person? I did not expect what
                      15. Arminian power
                        Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 16 New
                        -1
                        po vashemu kto SAYUZNIK Rassi na regione
                  2. Arminian power
                    Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 21 New
                    -1
                    you intend to write the name of my country in small letter
                    hi
            2. Conepatus
              Conepatus 8 June 2013 23: 10 New
              +3
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Quote: atalef
              Armenians cannot be allies. because they have never been to anyone

              Well, I tried to express roughly the same thing more or less correctly repeat But if in plain text this is a bridgehead from which it is convenient to hammer and which is not a pity, But Turkey itself will have to think ten times before jerking: Russia will crush on them and they will have to answer in Armenia Well, who is it except for those who are still there worries?




              If Russia slacks Turkey, it will be an attack on a NATO member. Then the cutest Third World War will be.
            3. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 8 June 2013 23: 22 New
              +4
              Have you read carefully? Or did the meaning slip away? Russia will do this in the case of World War III But it’s not because of Armenia that we are talking about the fact that we need them as a bridgehead outside of our country. Otherwise, nobody needs a state education in FIG, including most of their own citizens in St. Petersburg who Yerevan hi
            4. WILD
              WILD 8 June 2013 23: 25 New
              +3
              Quote: Ruslan67
              St. Petersburg no less than in Yerevan

              I liked the word Yerevan with a small letter!
              What grandfather did you think that your son-in-law carries a real Armenian cognac?
              Well, you understand........
            5. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 8 June 2013 23: 35 New
              +2
              You’ll have a house 500 meters from the Armenian cemetery and you’ll not write it like that am When they bury another respected businessman, passing by, I’m very sorry that our fours don’t have KPVT We got such a boorish-disregarding attitude towards everyone and everything! And as for the Armenian cognac, it basically doesn’t exist now after the war and humpbacked
            6. Yeraz
              Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 40 New
              -4
              Quote: Ruslan67
              ! And about the Armenian brandy, so now it basically does not exist

              Cognac can be FRENCH from the Cognac region !!! Everything else is brandy !! Spanish brandy Don Pilayo, who is closer to French cognac, complies with the law and calls his brandy drink, and Armenians spit on it and call Cognac. Knowing people snort when they hear the phrase Armenian cognac.
            7. Cat
              Cat 9 June 2013 13: 18 New
              +5
              Quote: Yeraz
              Knowledgeable people snort when they hear the phrase Armenian cognac.

              what kind of connoisseurs are we talking about?
              Connoisseurs of drinks - appreciate the taste, bouquet, and not the label on the bottle.
              Connoisseurs of patent rights are another matter: from their point of view, the defining piano is played by who pays for whom and for the use of the recipe and name. But what exactly is splashing in the glass is the tenth matter.

              Such an example: if officially, in compliance with all French laws and international legal acts, you change the boundaries of Cognac County, it turns out that yesterday’s brandy will suddenly become cognac, and vice versa? Legally, maybe it will ... but will the drink change from this? =)))
            8. Yeraz
              Yeraz 9 June 2013 16: 05 New
              -6
              Quote: Cat
              Connoisseurs of drinks - appreciate the taste, bouquet, and not the label on the bottle.

              Armenian and taste is not suitable for French.
              From the fact that Lada has 4 wheels and a steering wheel and he is also a vehicle, he cannot be called and considered a BMW.
              It’s just the taste qualities of Soviet people. Neither Georgian, Moldavian, and other wine can be considered wine, nor cognac.
            9. Cat
              Cat 9 June 2013 23: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Yeraz
              From the fact that Lada has 4 wheels and a steering wheel and he is also a vehicle, he cannot be called and considered a BMW.

              Do you yourself understand what you wrote?
              The abbreviation BMW (BMW) is the Bavarian Motor Works (Bayerische Motoren Werke). Accordingly, according to your logic - BMW can be called only those cars that are produced in Bavaria. And no others.

              Even if you try very hard, it is difficult to choose a more unsuccessful example =))
      2. tupolev-95
        tupolev-95 9 June 2013 14: 14 New
        +9
        5 лет прослужил в Армении и поверьте с коньяком все в порядке. От того,что французы не разрешают напиток называть коньяком,он хуже не стал. Отличное и вино и коньяк и стоит на наши деньги копейки,другое дело,что то,что продают в России под названием "армянский коньяк"-бурда неизвестного происхождения.По поводу похорон-в Ереване то же самое. Вы еще не видели как здесь водят машины-когда тебе по встречной выезжают из тоннеля эмоции зашкаливают.Но это уже особенности менталитета.
      3. Stoic
        10 June 2013 13: 55 New
        +4
        As for the Armenian cognac, so now it basically doesn’t exist


        Ruslan.
        Your next, empty pearl.
        Cognac grapes grow in the Ararat Valley. And there was no war from the beginning of the 20th century)))
        Yes, and skating alcohols in factories for many years to come.
      4. Arminian power
        Arminian power 10 September 2013 11: 04 New
        -2
        I lived in Rostov 3 years ago. the neighbor thumped and beat her husband constantly and what ?????????

        Apparently you are not exactly ARMYAN offended by cheoo fool
  2. Arminian power
    Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 09 New
    -1
    power is not necessary hi
  3. Vardan
    Vardan 9 June 2013 20: 21 New
    +2
    Read mister hrea :)
    http://husisapail.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%
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    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%81%D0%BA%D0
    %B8%D0%B9_%D1%84%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%28%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F
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    http://www.mgimo.ru/study/dean/docs/6420/6624/document151418.phtml

    почитайте и поступите в соответствии с вашей фразой я "вставлю свои 3 копейки" , только уже по совести и с самопожертвованием :)
  4. Yeraz
    Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 36 New
    -3
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Here are the answers to all questions why Armenia is an ally of Russia

    Actually, this agreement would be signed immediately after Russia extended the lease term of Gyumri and changed its status, that it protects not only the Turkish and Iranian parts of the Armenian-Armenian border, but also the Georgian-Azerbaijani part.
    Then wonder why Azerbaijan is not pulling in the direction of Russia. First, Yeltsin kicked Azerbaijan out, then under Putin, the negative gradually changed to positive, and then it started again.
    Purely thanks to the Aliyev family, the population’s attitude towards Russia is more even, otherwise everything would be many times worse.
  5. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 June 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Well, why else do you need a strategic forefoot? We overtake Azerbaijan to the state of volcanic glass, just so as not to get into a big fight between the big boys. Let’s break up so to speak ...
    Тут вопрос различия подходов. Запад никому не друг и не союзник, у него только стратегические интересы есть, как вы помните. А Россия за союзников как за себя... Так что если бахнет - не возникнет у иранцев конфликта интересов, просто не из за чего будет кипиш подымать. Да и туркам я б очень не советовал почивать на лаврах "члена НАТО". Если НАТО окажется перед дилеммой - скинуть турков медведю на поживу или воевать с этим самым медведем, так я почему то догадываюсь, что они выберут.
    Moreover, now our foreign policy is not just well organized, but brought to the level of art. Gorchakov, apparently in the sky, is smiling contentedly ... So that’s the maximum - they will stick together with two three pairs, they will be knocked down, and support will end.
  • Army1
    Army1 8 June 2013 21: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: GreatRussia
    And what actually in this case will prevent the use of nuclear weapons in Turkey?

    GreatRussia, many seriously underestimate the Russian non-nuclear potential, If you remove NATO now, and in the event of a low-intensity conflict, I doubt that everyone will run to Turkey to defend and if they run (without nuclear weapons) it is not a fact that we will end rather. I’m talking about something else. They forget that we have strategic aviation, with high-precision missiles in conventional equipment, they want to place a bastion near Anapa, which I won’t talk about so much, so don’t worry, without Yao we can clean something up to shine the question is only a political decision.
    1. Dilshat
      Dilshat 8 June 2013 22: 29 New
      +2
      If an armed conflict breaks out between Russia and Turkey, the non-interference of nato will mean the futility of this military bloc for its members. And as a result of this, its collapse. Will the US go for it? If the whole science and economy of the USA is practically on a military track. tributaries will run away. And the USA will fall to the states. In short, the USA has nothing to lose.
      1. ultra
        ultra 23 September 2013 17: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Dilshat
        If an armed conflict breaks out between Russia and Turkey, non-intervention by nato will mean the futility of this military bloc for its members

        A third world intervention, with all the consequences! And what do you think, will intervene? IMHO never!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 55 New
    +3
    Quote: Arberes
    The problem (I apologize for the cynical expression) will be solved by high-tech and conventional weapons. And it won’t last long - you have to urgently negotiate and seek compromises.

    I agree, they won’t give much to fight in the current conditions !!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 56 New
    -4
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Firstly, Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and not a third world country.

    Armenia is a member of the CSTO, but in terms of its financial and economic status, it is a fact in the category of third world countries !!
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 8 June 2013 20: 08 New
      11
      Quote: Yarbay
      Armenia is a member of the CSTO, but in terms of its financial and economic status, it is a fact in the category of third world countries !!

      But this in this case is hardly relevant to the topic. )))
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 24 New
        -1
        Quote: GreatRussia
        But this in this case is hardly relevant to the topic. )))

        Well, I quoted your quote))) there was a mention that Armenia is not a third world country, or did I misunderstand?))))
        1. afire
          afire 8 June 2013 21: 03 New
          +8
          Quote: Yarbay
          Quote: GreatRussia
          But this in this case is hardly relevant to the topic. )))

          Well, I quoted your quote))) there was a mention that Armenia is not a third world country, or did I misunderstand?))))

          даже если и так - можете себя похвалить, вы молодец, есть чем гордиться, а скромнее быть не пробовали? Уж и не знаете как из штанов вылезти, чтоб своё превосходство показать, низменные качества никогда хорошую службу не сослужат. Зато у Армении есть искандер и вы можете пускать сколько угодно сопли пузырями о том, что Армения страна "3 мира".
          По вашим поступкам вы из страны "4 мира", высокомерны и любите болтать и иметь в коментах последнее слово.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 8 June 2013 21: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: afire
            . Зато у Армении есть искандер и вы можете пускать сколько угодно сопли пузырями о том, что Армения страна "3 мира".

            Here you respected got excited))))
            Russia has Iskander, Armenia has old Scud!
            Quote: afire
            even if so - you can praise yourself, well done, have something to be proud of, but haven’t you tried to be more modest?
            I assure you I am a very modest person!
          2. Fidain
            Fidain 8 June 2013 23: 48 New
            +4
            However licks well hi
          3. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 02 New
            -2
            Quote: Fidain
            However licks well

            Are you sure that you understand the meaning of what you are reading?))))))))))
          4. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 9 June 2013 05: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: Yarbay
            Quote: Fidain
            However licks well

            Are you sure that you understand the meaning of what you are reading?))))))))))

            Also not sure.
          5. Fidain
            Fidain 9 June 2013 12: 21 New
            +2
            Yes, I understand, as I understand it, I see through your political propaganda or agitation, but not the point
        2. Arminian power
          Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 31 New
          0
          This is a feature of Ottoman politics and most importantly without soap hi
    2. Gooch
      Gooch 8 June 2013 21: 15 New
      -9
      Quote: afire
      Зато у Армении есть искандер и вы можете пускать сколько угодно сопли пузырями о том, что Армения страна "3 мира".

      Iskander Russian, Armenians have only snot in their nose.
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 23 New
      -9
      Friend. Why rejoice then. Many pensioners and the budget of Russia have not received the gigantic amount of money ... maybe you will make up for the missing budget deficit in 2014 ........ fool
      They love Russian weapons in Armenia for free .... no, to earn by ourselves and honestly how to give money for goods in trade ............
    4. Fidain
      Fidain 8 June 2013 23: 54 New
      +1
      На халяву в что со всем сума сошли,как думаеш умник,когда Америка или нато или вы Турция захочет ударять по России и первую очеред каво бомбить будут? Москву или Кронштадт? Нет <дорогой> будут бомбить Искандеры и Тополи, а потом уже Москву и генштаб!!!
  • Conepatus
    Conepatus 9 June 2013 00: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: afire
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: GreatRussia
    But this in this case is hardly relevant to the topic. )))

    Well, I quoted your quote))) there was a mention that Armenia is not a third world country, or did I misunderstand?))))

    даже если и так - можете себя похвалить, вы молодец, есть чем гордиться, а скромнее быть не пробовали? Уж и не знаете как из штанов вылезти, чтоб своё превосходство показать, низменные качества никогда хорошую службу не сослужат. Зато у Армении есть искандер и вы можете пускать сколько угодно сопли пузырями о том, что Армения страна "3 мира".
    По вашим поступкам вы из страны "4 мира", высокомерны и любите болтать и иметь в коментах последнее слово.



    My dear man, you go to any topic about Ukraine, read how your citizens show their superiority. Armenia was called the country of the 3rd world? So they say about Ukraine that there is no such country. request
  • smersh70
    smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 19 New
    -11
    Well, I quoted your quote))) there was a mention that Armenia is not a third world country, or did I misunderstand?)))) [/ Quote]

    Comrade Judge, he (Armenia) cannot sit down .... laughing
  • Fidain
    Fidain 8 June 2013 23: 45 New
    +1
    In Russia, too, there are many killed ancients and bad roads, or people live in emergency houses, so is Russia a third world country?
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 9 June 2013 06: 23 New
      -3
      Quote: Fidain
      In Russia, too, there are many killed ancients and bad roads, or people live in emergency houses, so is Russia a third world country?

      Turn on the imagination a little :) and everything will fall into place)
    2. Fidain
      Fidain 9 June 2013 12: 26 New
      +4
      If you do not understand my koment with everything, I’ll explain that I wanted to say that many have problems, but this does not mean that it can be argued that Somalia and Armenia are on the same level
  • nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 8 June 2013 23: 03 New
    +7
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Firstly, Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and not a third world country.

    Armenia is a member of the CSTO, but in terms of its financial and economic status, it is a fact in the category of third world countries !!


    IF THE ARMENIANS are reset for 100000-1000000 (a trifle for many), then the treasury of Armenia will become the richest!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 23: 56 New
      -3
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      IF THE ARMENIANS are reset for 100000-1000000 (a trifle for many), then the treasury of Armenia will become the richest!

      already unlikely to be reset !!
      The fact that they are wasting time and enormous resources on unrealizable things was understood even by those who stood at the origins of this movement!
      Including Aznavour!
      Sobering is coming!
      http://www.vestikavkaza.ru/news/44037.html
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 35 New
      -8
      NICK --- Toda why they aren’t dumped. 80-100 thousand people leave Armenia every year ... if that happens. Soon only Russian servicemen will remain there ..... fellow
      1. WILD
        WILD 9 June 2013 00: 41 New
        10
        Quote: smersh70
        NICK --- Toda why they aren’t dumped. 80-100 thousand people leave Armenia every year ... if that happens. Soon only Russian troops will remain there ....

        Yeshkin cat, if the Armenians leave, as you say, and you can’t cope with the rest, and the Russian military (respect the elder brothers) just look, then you have now proved that you are not WARRIORS, you are simply TRADERS! wink
        Salam Aleikum! laughing
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 06: 29 New
          -11
          Quote: WILD
          as you say, and you can’t cope with the rest, and the Russian military personnel (respect the elder brothers) just look, then you have now proved that you are not WARRIORS, you are simply TRADERS!

          Somewhere we already heard it .. Cope, try.

          This guy gives you fiery greetings.


        2. Greyfox
          Greyfox 9 June 2013 09: 13 New
          11
          To gooch.
          Living in Russia, you are trying to poke more painfully at the Chechen wound. I cannot call it otherwise than bestiality.
          This guy gives you fiery greetings.

          These also transmitted.
          Выпилены и отправлены к Алле в бар.К сожалению не могу здесь привести их фото после отъезда к гуриям.Твой корешок в итоге отправится туда же или в зоопарк,где "орел" будет ходить "ласточкой".
        3. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 09: 25 New
          -14
          Quote: Greyfox
          Living in Russia, you are trying to poke more painfully at the Chechen wound.

          Tell this to the relatives of 200 thousand dead civilians, including Russians, because the bombs do not choose who to kill, Russian or Chechen, why out of them 40 thousand children have not grown to adulthood and died under bombing.

          .Твой корешок в итоге отправится туда же или в зоопарк,где "орел" будет ходить "ласточкой".

          Before discussing Karabakh and the Armenians, for a start it would be nice to discuss the problems that inside Russia, the very stigma in the cannon, Umarov, by the way, is still alive, still owns a combat-ready detachment, and still youth goes to the mountains . 7 times his media buried, and the result? Woz and now there.
        4. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 9 June 2013 11: 42 New
          10
          Откуда цифры? По-поводу русских - их убивали задолго до "наведения конституционного порядка".
        5. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 9 June 2013 12: 17 New
          +2
          Minus I see, I do not see the answer to the question. There is no answer, only drool.
        6. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 20 New
          -1
          Quote: Tupolev-95
          marov will also go to the cheese of the earth

          Armenia is banned in google google
        7. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 9 June 2013 19: 24 New
          +2
          I don’t know whether you or the site is dumb, but this is not my quote.
        8. The comment was deleted.
        9. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 9 June 2013 19: 37 New
          0
          Ну так можно "нагуглить" много чего.
        10. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 19: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: Tupolev-95
          Ну так можно "нагуглить" много чего.

          "Количество жертв русско-чеченской войны начиная с 1994 года превысило 200 тысяч человек. Об этом заявил в пятницу журналистам представитель в Чечне Таус Джабраилов. «С осени 1994 года потери превысили 200 тысяч человек», — сказал он. «В этот же период инвалидами стали более 20 тысяч детей, и десятки тысяч детей оказались сиротами»."
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 9 June 2013 12: 36 New
    10
    Quote: Gooch
    Quote: Greyfox
    Living in Russia, you are trying to poke more painfully at the Chechen wound.

    Tell this to the relatives of 200 thousand dead civilians, including Russians, because the bombs do not choose who to kill, Russian or Chechen, why out of them 40 thousand children have not grown to adulthood and died under bombing.

    .Твой корешок в итоге отправится туда же или в зоопарк,где "орел" будет ходить "ласточкой".

    Before discussing Karabakh and the Armenians, for a start it would be nice to discuss the problems that inside Russia, the very stigma in the cannon, Umarov, by the way, is still alive, still owns a combat-ready detachment, and still youth goes to the mountains . 7 times his media buried, and the result? Woz and now there.


    I am very sorry that such a fruit lives in Russia (and probably received a Russian passport), who talks about Chechnya in such a tone. In this respect, you are our land only because of the frivolity of the local precinct.
    В 1991 чеченцы устроили геноцид русских,поэтому рассуждать о гибели "мирных чеченцев" может только враг моей страны!Чеченские фашисты с арабско-афганскими овце..ми напали на мою страну и получили то что в итоге получили. И Умаров тоже пойдет в сыру землю,можете не сомневаться. А там Бог даст и до пособников других национальностей по всей стране дойдет-от кабинетов Кремля,до фруктовых рынков...
  • Gooch
    Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 24 New
    -5
    Quote: Greyfox
    Chechen fascists with Arab-Afghan sheep .. we attacked my country and got what they got in the end. And Umarov will also go to the cheese ground, you can be sure. And there God will give to accomplices of other nationalities throughout the country, from the offices of the Kremlin to fruit markets ...

    it is better to Dudaev, Maskhadov or Yamadayev at the head of Chechnya than Ramzanka Dyrov, to whom you out of your pocket, pay tribute to the new Bentley and luxurious cottages.
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 9 June 2013 21: 44 New
    +5
    Gooch
    it is better to Dudaev, Maskhadov or Yamadayev at the head of Chechnya than Ramzanka Dyrov, to whom you out of your pocket, pay tribute to the new Bentley and luxurious cottages.

    Я еще раз повторяю,что ты ничего про Чечню не знаешь,потому что такие трусливые ишаки от войны держаться далеко.И еще раз говорю-на нашей земле ты только по недомыслию моих бывших коллег по МВД.Проглядели тебя, а может и купил ты какую-нибудь гниду.Про твою картинку я так скажу-все до поры до времени.Мы кавказских "орлов" много по зоопаркам распихали.И знаю я как ваши "главы диаспор" прибегали и сдавали преступников-земляков,когда им режим нулевой терпимости объявляли,и как "орлы" крылышки складывали,когда чувствовали близость параши.И для тебя все может измениться в один день,и не сработают твои завязки-подвязки. Да,ты кстати заметил,что все кого ты перечислил отправлены к Алле в бар? Одному бомба на башку упала,другой в колодце-подвале сдох,третьему ж0пу в теплом Катаре оторвало.Все твои герои плохо закончили.... Тебе как бы намек...
    PS I say right away that I do not mean representatives of any particular nationality. It is about the enemies of my country, regardless of ethnicity.
  • Gooch
    Gooch 10 June 2013 06: 56 New
    -2
    Quote: Greyfox
    Мы кавказских "орлов" много по зоопаркам распихали.И знаю я как ваши "главы диаспор" прибегали и сдавали преступников-земляков,когда им режим нулевой терпимости объявляли,и как "орлы" крылышки складывали,когда чувствовали близость параши.И для тебя все может измениться в один день,и не сработают твои завязки-подвязки. Да,ты кстати заметил,что все кого ты перечислил отправлены к Алле в бар? Одному бомба на башку упала,другой в колодце-подвале сдох,третьему ж0пу в теплом Катаре оторвало.Все твои герои плохо закончили....


    You fought, Bayeviks paubivale, blood was shed, and Ramzanka Dyrov and KO received laurels, and you crow on the site, further. I just leave it here, note for you:
    Kadyrov, Ramzan Akhmatovich - Hero of the Russian Federation
    Цитаты великих людей. Р.Кадыров: "Первого Русского я убил в 16 лет"


    Ahmad Abdulkhamidovich Kadyrov - Hero of the Russian Federation
    Цитата. "Убивацте русских столько, сколько сможете, и вы попадете в рай"


    Sulim Bekmirzaevich Yamadaev - Hero of Russia
    сделал для Чеченской республики в разы больше, отрядом спецназа руководил "Восток", за что его и отблагодарили, чисто по нашему, батальон расформировали, его обьявили преступником (разумеется по указанию Рамзанки) и нейтрализовали.

    Ruslan Bekmirzaevich Yamadaev - Hero of Russia
    In the early 1990s, he supported the first president of Chechnya, Dzhokhar Dudaev, in the struggle for independence of the Chechen Republic. In the first Chechen war he was the commander of a detachment of Chechen troops. He took part in hostilities against federal troops.
    The conflict with Kadyrov on an elementary basis, the VIP carts failed to disperse on the wide shores of the Gudermes road .. in general, they resolved the issue of HeroRossiyski.

    И Таких "героев", туева хуча. В общем пока такие люди как вы будут, будут и такие картонные герои.
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 10 June 2013 10: 50 New
    +3
    What pictures did you post ... And what texts ... And what heroes ... I also found a picture for you ... Hang it on the wall in the toilet .. Use it.
  • Gooch
    Gooch 10 June 2013 11: 30 New
    -3
    Quote: Greyfox
    What pictures did you post ... And what texts ... And what heroes ... I also found a picture for you ... Hang it on the wall in the toilet .. Use it.

    Azerbaijanis! Mr. Greyfox urgently demands respect for his cultural traditions! Who is against, get out of Russia!
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 10 June 2013 11: 55 New
    +2
    Не притягивай нацию. Я про азербайджанцев слова плохого не сказал.У нас с тобой персональный срач,любитель "мирных чеченцев".И я не москвич.А-а-а,так это тебя того-этого москвич 2 месяца? Понял,понял!Про тебя в газетке.Сочувствую....
  • Gooch
    Gooch 10 June 2013 12: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Greyfox
    And I'm not a Muscovite. Ahh, so this is you that-this Muscovite 2 months? Got it, got it! About you in the newspaper. I'm sorry ....

    Sorry, but I acknowledge your superior intelligence lol All I can tell you :)
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 10 June 2013 13: 11 New
    +2
    Опять ты про себя запостил. Так вот ты кто,шалунишка камерный...Кукарекать начал...Ты в следующий раз к Магасу просись (это еще один "герой" из "мирных чеченцев").Он тебя в зоопарке ждет.А тролить тебя уже надоело,ушел с темы.
  • Gooch
    Gooch 10 June 2013 13: 24 New
    -4
    Quote: Greyfox
    And you already got tired of trolling, left a subject.

    Is that how you troll? :) And I did not notice)
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 46 New
    -5
    Quote: WILD
    Yeshkin cat, if the Armenians leave, as you say, and you can’t cope with the rest, and the Russian military (respect the elder brothers) just look, then you have now proved that you are not WARRIORS, you are simply TRADERS!

    Armenia would have been dealt with for a long time not by the standing Russian soldiers, but by the people sitting in Moscow, while they are against it and there is no sense in starting it. Kokoity also escaped, and the Georgians threw them back in a day, so he immediately ran away and hid behind the Russians. Russia is definitely on the side of the Armenians, it makes no sense to start a war, we do not.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 9 June 2013 10: 33 New
    -6
    Прочитал недавно интервью Ш.Азнавура ВВС" Я не представляю ,кто будет оказывать помощь армении после моей смерти.Во Франции множество армян-миллионеров,очень много состоятельных людей.Я им говорю,скинтесь хотя бы по 5 евро,нет же,обедают в шикарных ресторанах,покупают яхты и бриллианты, но не хотят помогать исторической родине"
    Compare THIS and the statements of some who act here as free lawyers for Armenians.
  • Fidain
    Fidain 8 June 2013 23: 39 New
    +2
    And you must be a country of the first grade !! Interesting however, then Switzerland (overview) is a paradise on earth
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 9 June 2013 06: 36 New
      -3
      Quote: Fidain
      And you must be a country of the first grade !! Interesting however, then Switzerland (overview) is a paradise on earth

      Five-sorted capital, tomato merchants.



      Yerevan getting up from God's knees with God's help


      1. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 11: 03 New
        -10
        GOOCH !!!!!!!! I admire YOU !!!!!!!!!! hi drinks
  • Fidain
    Fidain 8 June 2013 23: 42 New
    +4
    If you want facts, the hated Armenia has returned historically to you and reliably protects its borders. And the demagogy that it is the Russians who fought for the Armenians, millet is funny !!!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 23: 48 New
      -4
      Quote: Fidain
      Armenia has returned its historically lands and reliably guards its borders

      Again, the facts in Armenian?))))))))))
      we will refute or wink?
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 9 June 2013 10: 48 New
      -6
      how easily they laugh, hiding behind the backs of Russians. During the war, 12 Russian sappers were caught only in a week, they wanted to blow up bridges. Then they, so unloved by you, Elchibey passed to Russia as goodwill. I personally saw 2 at headquarters in Agder.
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 48 New
      -3
      Quote: Fidain
      and reliably guards its borders

      hahaahahahah))) people when you write something, take an interest in this in detail. Type in google who guards the border of Armenia.
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 10 June 2013 22: 02 New
      -4
      about the first - you said how Hitler was in '41 - and this is called - aggression !!!!!!!!!! and your borders are protected instead of YOU by RUSSIA !!!!!!!!
  • ale-x
    ale-x 8 June 2013 20: 16 New
    11
    in our not-so-quiet time, Turkey itself may not risk it, but Turkey can risk it ....
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 8 June 2013 19: 10 New
    37
    Now fans from Armenia and Azerbaijan are catching up!
    The article was written to incite the Armenian-Azeri srach — ears of one of the sides stick out too distinctly.
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 8 June 2013 19: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: Greyfox
      Now fans from Armenia and Azerbaijan are catching up!

      Well, and read with interest?
      Quote: Greyfox
      The article was written to incite the Armenian-Azeri srach — ears of one of the sides stick out too distinctly.

      Yes it seems!
      But sooner or later it will burn there? Can’t it all last so endlessly?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 33 New
        -8
        Quote: Arberes
        Well, and read with interest?

        but what?))))))
        Quote: Arberes
        But sooner or later it will burn there? Can’t it all last so endlessly?

        Of course it’s burning!
        The sooner the better for me !!
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 8 June 2013 19: 52 New
          +7
          Quote: Yarbay
          but what?))))))


          Quote: Yarbay
          The sooner the better for me !!

          It is sometimes interesting to read how you present to each other. Does each side consider itself right? I try to draw my conclusions without bias. Of course, it may not always work out?
          Sooner or later, a difficult topic! I don’t even want to make any forecasts! The stalemate is for me at least!
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 08 New
            -4
            Quote: Arberes
            Does each side consider itself right?

            but to consider yourself right and be it are two different things!)))))
            I've been discussing with many Armenian colleagues here for over a year, making sure that they have no documentary, non-historical and no other serious arguments !!
            They attacked our people first and drove them out of Armenia!
            In Sumgayit, it was the Armenians who organized the crowds of bandits and the pogroms of the Armenians themselves, according to the materials of the USSR prosecutor’s office! If you google that Eduard Grigoryan, I didn’t arrest him !!
            From history, I can cite hundreds of documents about their mass resettlement in Kakrabi and Transcaucasia in the 19th century!
            So there’s nothing to talk about!
            1. Artmark
              Artmark 8 June 2013 21: 27 New
              +3
              GOD severely punishes those who are engaged in enlightenment!
            2. Fidain
              Fidain 9 June 2013 00: 03 New
              +6
              Understand that there is no point in delivering documents or video or something else, to show people or the whole nation that is translating deaf and blind, but sometimes it’s just not possible to keep silent what you write
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 06 New
                -5
                Quote: Fidain
                Understand there is no point in transporting documents

                You understand, there are simply no documents, but there is a sense !!)))))
            3. Arminian power
              Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 47 New
              0
              Quote: Yarbay
              In Sumgait, it was the Armenians who organized the crowds of bandits and the pogroms of the Armenians themselves
              fool
        2. Dilshat
          Dilshat 8 June 2013 22: 39 New
          +2
          If the issue with Nagorno-Karabakh was settled between Armenia and Azerbaijan (peacefully), how would relations between the two countries develop in the future? Or is this enmity centuries old?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 39 New
            -5
            we take off friends and after 1905.1918,1920,1988, we are friends in Georgia, and in Russia, and in the Internet .. one thing is ordinary people, and another thing is the occupation of our territory. 20% lies under occupation ....
            By the way, now we have 30000 Armenians living ..... and all is normal ....
            1. Arminian power
              Arminian power 9 September 2013 23: 53 New
              0
              something is not convinced or forgotten how to gate. wassat laughing
      2. wolk71
        wolk71 8 June 2013 20: 02 New
        +6
        So that would be there or somewhere else in the region that Russia did not blaze and strengthens its military bases.
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    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: Greyfox
      The article was written to incite the Armenian-Azeri srach — ears of one of the sides stick out too distinctly.

      That's for sure)))))))))))
    3. v53993
      v53993 8 June 2013 19: 37 New
      +3
      Nothing is trying like a good whip
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 27 New
      -7
      Now fans from Azerbaijan are catching up!
      even though today they awarded me a captain on the site, right now I’ll start to hurt ... fellow

      I agree with YOU completely !!!!!!!! drinks
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 58 New
    -10
    Quote: Arberes
    The Turkish Navy and Army are some of the most powerful in this region, like that!

    One thing is interesting to me, Why should Turkey attack Armenia?))))
    Turkey has no claims to the territory of Armenia !!But Armenia has territorial claims to Turkey!
    So, Armenia may attack Turkey)))))
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 8 June 2013 20: 03 New
      14
      Quote: Yarbay
      Turkey has no claims to the territory of Armenia !!

      The thing is that Turkey’s claims will appear immediately after the start of an open conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia! You are an intelligent person and you guess what the implication of this article is? Yes, and I hinted a little. hi
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 42 New
        -7
        Quote: Arberes
        The thing is that Turkey’s claims will appear immediately after the start of an open conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia!

        Well, this is ridiculous, in the most difficult moments for us, Turkey did not enter the war, and now when we have a normal army and we surpass our opponent several times, Turkey will enter the war, why on earth ????
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 8 June 2013 20: 52 New
          +8
          Quote: Yarbay
          Turkey will enter the war, why on earth ????

          Because RUSSIA will also not just watch how ARMENIA (by the way it faces a blockade and this is also an important fact) will cough up blood?
          There was already a debate above that everything rests there on blocks and mutual agreements!
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 8 June 2013 21: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Arberes
            Because RUSSIA will also not just watch how ARMENIA

            Well this is ridiculous!
            How is blockade threatened?
            If Russia enters the war, then this is one defeat for us, look at our borders !!
            You can resist for a week, a month, but the fact remains that Russia is stronger, and Turkey’s entry into the war with Russia is too important a decision and Turkey will not do it without NATO! NATO will simply not allow Turkey to enter the war, then it will be a world war! ! The keys to this conflict in Moscow, while no one can negotiate with Moscow, will not be able to start a war in the next couple of years! And then the political situation may change, I don’t know!
            So how can Turkey enter the war ??

            with respect!
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 40 New
        -3
        Arberes - eating a good Russian proverb --- if only. Yes ...
        until Turkey claims and are unlikely to appear ..
        but in the Constitution of Armenia it is directly written about territorial claims ..... against Turkey ........
    2. Fidain
      Fidain 9 June 2013 00: 12 New
      +4
      Yes, we have, if the Iranians, for example, slaughtered almost all Azerbaijanis and leave a piece in the north where 200000 remain, they take away the rest of the land and don’t give a damn about everyone’s geopolitical games, what’s going to happen?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 20 New
        -7
        Quote: Fidain
        Yes we have

        So you cut out the Turks, I brought the documents !!
        And what are you dissatisfied with ??
        Bring reports of generals Ordeshelidze, Mayevsky, Nikolaev?
        notes by Colonel Tverdokhlebov?
        investigation of a member of the emergency commission Mikhailov ??
        When did you have land there ??
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 42 New
        -6
        Quote: Fidain
        Yes, we have, if the Iranians, for example, slaughtered almost all Azerbaijanis and leave a piece in the north where 200000 remain, they take away the rest of the land and don’t give a damn about everyone’s geopolitical games, what’s going to happen?


        again GEOPOLITICS .... you like to think big on a small patch ... laughing
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 12: 12 New
        -1
        The National Council of Western Armenia, and the Government of Western Armenia proclaimed by it in exile, announced the beginning of the formation of the National Assembly (Parliament) of Western Armenia.
        According to Yerkramas, as stated in the Declaration of the Government of Western Armenia, the Armenian people should live as a part of a self-sufficient, and in the future - in one single and independent Armenian state.
        The jurisdiction of the National Assembly (Parliament) of Western Armenia extends to both citizens of the state of Western Armenia and
        "Occupied" territories of Western Armenia.
        Эта юрисдикция относится к следующим областям и регионам "Западной Армении":
        1. Van;
        2. Bitlis;
        3. Erzrum (Karin);
        4. Trapison (Amshen);
        5. Sivas (Sebastia);
        6. Diarbekir (Tigranakert);
        7. Harput (Kharberd);
        8. Cilicia (including: Caesarea, Marash, Adana, Zeytun, Aintap, Antiochus);
        9. Kars (and Surmalu);
        10. Javakhk; (Georgia)
        11. Nakhchivan (Azerbaijan)
    3. Alexander D.
      Alexander D. 9 June 2013 00: 17 New
      11
      Quote: Yarbay
      Quote: Arberes
      The Turkish Navy and Army are some of the most powerful in this region, like that!

      One thing is interesting to me, Why should Turkey attack Armenia?))))
      Turkey has no claims to the territory of Armenia !!But Armenia has territorial claims to Turkey!
      So, Armenia may attack Turkey)))))

      And why did Turkey arrange in 1915? Armenian genocide? Nevertheless, this region is a powder keg - we were convinced of this in an article about the Aslan tank.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 48 New
        -9
        Quote: Alexander D.
        And why did Turkey arrange in 1915? Armenian genocide?

        Dear Alexander, I wrote so much about this that I’m tired of writing the same thing, especially since night!
        I suggest you read the topic where I answered this question in detail, with facts, documents!

        http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoci
        da-armyan-1915.html # comment-id-1116082

        Quote: Alexander D.
        Nevertheless, this region is a powder keg - we were convinced of this in an article about the Aslan tank.

        Well, this is unconditional)))
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 9 June 2013 05: 05 New
    +2
    The man expressed the right idea. Conflict with Russia, any country becomes a potential target for Russia's strategic nuclear forces. And MEMBER))) NATO measures it all the more seven times ...
  • Airman
    Airman 8 June 2013 22: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Naturally, there can be no question of any rivalry with more than 200 Turkish F-16s.

    What is the rivalry of a pug with an elephant in FIG?
    Or did Turkey have a strategic nuclear forces?
    Or complexes comparable to the S-300 - S-400?

    Weapons and armament of air defense of Armenia as of 2010.

    S-300 medium-range air defense systems least 3 divisions.
    http:/


    С каких это пор С-300 стал ЗРК средней дальности? В мою бытность в Гюмри у армян была Артикская бригада "КРУГ",доставшаяся армянам после 7 армии, и зрп"ОСА". Во 102 базе был зрп"КУБ" После меня появились дивизион С-300 (не знаю В или ПМУ) и вместо КУБа - БУК. + ПВО мсп,тп. На армянское ПВО нет надежды, так что против 200 самолетов (на этом ТВД - до 100) немного маловато.
  • smersh70
    smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 34 New
    -8
    and here is our answer to Chamberlain -------- http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_embedded & v = H_77TiI
    h5ys
    1. Artmark
      Artmark 9 June 2013 01: 07 New
      +3
      And what do they say, tell in this video?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 11: 08 New
        -7
        how we will shoot down your obsolete SCAD missiles, how the sky of Azerbaijan is densely covered ...... hi modern S-300PMU
  • kind
    kind 8 June 2013 19: 25 New
    +2
    Ballistic missile radius 280 km.
  • Interface
    Interface 8 June 2013 19: 32 New
    +6
    Russia neutralizes US missile defense in Turkey

    На мой взгляд, рано еще говорить про "нейтрализацию". Чтобы нейтрализовать всю ПРО нато в Турции необходимо минимум до 50 "искандеров", и при том еще улучшенных до 2-х выстрелов.
    Neither 5 nor 10, nor even 15 installations are located there, information has appeared that there will be more than 50 interceptor missiles, plus an early detection radar.
    Если же мы хотим защитить наши установки, нужны либо 2-3 новых эскадрильи, еще штук 20-30 С-300, С-400, и зрк "Буг".
    In short, our base in Armenia needs to be pumped up as well as ours inside the country.
    1. Airman
      Airman 8 June 2013 22: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Interface
      Russia neutralizes US missile defense in Turkey

      На мой взгляд, рано еще говорить про "нейтрализацию". Чтобы нейтрализовать всю ПРО нато в Турции необходимо минимум до 50 "искандеров", и при том еще улучшенных до 2-х выстрелов.
      Neither 5 nor 10, nor even 15 installations are located there, information has appeared that there will be more than 50 interceptor missiles, plus an early detection radar.
      Если же мы хотим защитить наши установки, нужны либо 2-3 новых эскадрильи, еще штук 20-30 С-300, С-400, и зрк "Буг".
      In short, our base in Armenia needs to be pumped up as well as ours inside the country.


      20-30 S-300 divisions have nothing to do there, only to interfere with each other. 5-7 divisions will close the whole of Armenia, and not Bug but BUK.
  • sub307
    sub307 8 June 2013 19: 37 New
    0
    На каком основании "кажется"? Всё верно. Если только не используется в составе комплекса Р-500 (крылатая ракета такая), НЕ баллистическая. Тогда до 2000км.
  • Gooch
    Gooch 8 June 2013 20: 00 New
    -6
    Quote: Army1
    It seems to me that the radius of the BALLISTIC rocket of the Iskader complex is higher than 500 km.

    I’ll hint that it’s not so simple
  • Homo
    Homo 8 June 2013 21: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Army1
    It seems to me that the radius of the BALLISTIC rocket of the Iskader complex is higher than 500 km.

    Ballistic ISKANDER - is it something new ??? "Iskander" (the index of the complex is 9K720, according to the classification of the US Defense Ministry and NATO - SS-26 Stone, the English stone) is a family of operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK)
  • Civil
    Civil 8 June 2013 22: 36 New
    0
    I think the Iskanders are there against Azeris
  • cartridge
    cartridge 8 June 2013 22: 43 New
    11


    Russian missiles in Armenia. Video footage 1:36

    Репетиция ракетного шоу под названием "Прощай Баку! или "Здесь больше не говорят по-турецки"

    There will be no notification about the start time of the show for Turkish and Azerbaijani viewers! We apologize!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 43 New
      -6
      An exclusive interview with Vesti.Az with the famous Russian political scientist, professor at Moscow State University named after MV Lomonosov, leader of the International Eurasian Movement Alexander Dugin.

      - The day before yesterday, in front of the Russian Embassy in Yerevan, a rally took place against the increase in gas prices. The demonstrators came with posters that, in particular, read “Russia, get out of Armenia!”, “Gazprom, get out of Armenia!”, “Poverty in Armenia - the result of Russian politics”. An outpost of Russia in the South Caucasus decided to show its teeth in response to an attempt to punish him with a ruble for disobedience?

      - I do not think so. Problems in the Armenian economy are not due to Russia. On the contrary, Russia does its best to support the Armenian economy. Of course, there are many details that may irritate the Armenians, but in fact, it seems to me that yesterday’s action was organized by forces that are oriented to the West and which are trying to create anti-Russian sentiments in Armenian society. Maybe I’m wrong, but, as far as I know, there are practically no anti-Russian sentiments in Armenian society. Although, at the same time, Yerevan for some reason rejects Russia's proposals for deeper integration into the Eurasian Union. Moscow believes that those countries that want, for example, like Armenia, to use its military and economic assistance, should be more closely integrated into the Russian system.

      Once I was a witness to the CSTO summit, where they invited the ex-president of Armenia Robert Kocharian, and not the current president Sargsyan. That is, Moscow’s dissatisfaction with the fact that Armenia is not a member of the Eurasian Union was not expressed yesterday. I think that now the situation has not changed, and Armenia should hurry with the entry into the EurAsEC.

      - Recently, a meeting was held in Moscow between the Foreign Ministers of Russia and Azerbaijan, Lavrov and Mamedyarov, at which the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that the status quo in the Karabakh issue is unacceptable. Should this statement be regarded as on duty, as a signal to Yerevan, or does it indicate that the Kremlin is beginning to pursue a more flexible policy on the Karabakh issue, abandoning the previous unilateral support of Yerevan?

      - The fact is that throughout all these years, which the Karabakh conflict has lasted, Russia has recognized the right of Azerbaijan to territorial integrity. The situation with similar questions, for example, in the issue of Kosovo, shows not so much the principled attitude of Moscow towards territorial integrity issues, but rather interest in a particular geopolitical situation. Russia is interested in the territorial integrity of Serbia, therefore, it does not recognize Kosovo. And the West is acting in the exact opposite.

      Russia, being an ally of Armenia, has never been an adversary of Azerbaijan. She is above this battle, supporting the Armenians in some issues, and the Azerbaijanis in others. Now it has become obvious. In conversations with my Azerbaijani and Armenian colleagues, I always say: it must be understood that Russia will never, under any circumstances, be on the side of Armenia or on the side of Azerbaijan until one of these republics concludes an alliance with Washington. In this case, this republic automatically becomes our enemy. Therefore, the statements of Russia on the recognition of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, that is, recognizing Karabakh within Azerbaijan, are not empty words. This is a gesture of goodwill towards Azerbaijan. And closer contacts between Russia and Armenia in the field of military-strategic cooperation are a gesture of goodwill towards the Armenians.
      1. sscha
        sscha 9 June 2013 00: 13 New
        +7
        hi
        Everything is clear to everyone!
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 9 June 2013 11: 03 New
      -3
      cartridge, Do not wait !!! bully
    3. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 9 June 2013 11: 50 New
      +3
      SO WHAT? The shots with launches were not from Armenia at all, and the announcer did not say anything about this.
      1. Farik
        Farik 12 June 2013 00: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Tupolev-95
        SO WHAT? The shots with launches were not from Armenia at all, and the announcer did not say anything about this.

        This is actually the Kapustin Yar training ground in the Astrakhan region.
  • Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 9 June 2013 00: 44 New
    +5
    Well, you bastards, you’ve gotten enough of it. You won’t take Putin with your bare hands. And this is not the end. We’ll remind you tomorrow. End of the game ...................... I’m sorry .
  • Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 9 June 2013 01: 09 New
    -3
    It does not seem to you, but according to an international treaty, unfortunately signed by not very far-sighted, or rather, simply traitors from Russia. We are officially limited to 500 km. But you can really remake the complex and increase the range. I don’t know how difficult this is.
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 9 June 2013 02: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Gakkoga
      It does not seem to you, but according to an international treaty, unfortunately signed by not very far-sighted, or rather, simply traitors from Russia. We are officially limited to 500 km. But you can really remake the complex and increase the range. I don’t know how difficult this is.

      This contract, as you called not far-sighted, was signed, the USSR was very necessary. You need to learn history, so as not to write nonsense. Understand that during the Soviet era, American short and medium range missiles were located in Europe that flew 5-6 minutes before the USSR, America did not care much for short and medium range missiles because they did not reach the USSR. In general, read the prerequisites that served to create this agreement.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 8 June 2013 19: 01 New
    +8
    (in addition to the existing 102), among which - the CSTO Joint Aviation Base. The Armenian media, by the way, do not exclude that it will be deployed in Karabakh.
    Well, this is only in the case of a sharp deterioration in the situation in the region.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 46 New
      -6
      The Armenian media - in general, sometimes think on a global scale .... laughing
  • krasin
    krasin 8 June 2013 19: 10 New
    11
    Securing in the Caucasus region is good. But I like it most of all. How the neighbors' military enthusiasm diminished. The Armenians, young people, showed such a thing, they killed two birds with one stone, defense is in order, and the neighbors are forced to be friends if they can't bite. And the second the base will be opened by + Russia and + Armenia. Greetings !!!!!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 47 New
      -16
      greet them too --- fellowRally in the center of Yerevan because of gas
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 9 June 2013 03: 05 New
        11
        I’ll clean up with you. Where did you get this rubbish from? There will be no world without Russia. Russia is above all. Yes, I’m a fervent patriot. Well, what ?.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 9 June 2013 11: 11 New
          -7
          this is a rally in the center of Yerevan ....... how do I know ... this is the answer to many cheers-patriots who are rushing about Christian solidarity ... fellow
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            Oleg Rosskiyy 11 June 2013 23: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: smersh70
            this is the answer to many cheers-patriots who are rushing about Christian solidarity ...

            Azerbaijan needs to grow more cucumbers instead of tomatoes, green calms.
      2. Slevinst
        Slevinst 10 June 2013 16: 17 New
        0
        maybe the same tablet is written by the Armenians get out to Armenia from our country, especially from Sochi.
  • Nevsky
    Nevsky 8 June 2013 19: 16 New
    0
    It is also necessary to place Iskander-M in Azerbaijan. Only of course, if there will be a Russian base. good
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 51 New
      -4
      you know the saying --- if you don’t want to feed your army. you want to feed someone else’s)))) so we don’t need someone else’s, we have enough of our own ...... fellow
      and the Armenians, as they were hiding behind someone else’s uncle. will remain behind.
      no, to manly-go one on one. in the Caucasus ... and fight ....
      1. Arminian power
        Arminian power 10 September 2013 11: 28 New
        +1
        Why is it in Nakhchivan turkish army nerd
    2. Fidain
      Fidain 9 June 2013 00: 23 New
      +5
      And you scored how you escorted the Russian military from Azerbaijan from the radar station in GABAL
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 9 June 2013 05: 15 New
      +4
      Azebony is our enemy. Want to justify ?.
  • HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 8 June 2013 19: 22 New
    +5
    А Армяне ли показали такую фигуру?, им то и деваться особо то некуда, фигуру показали наши, ибо если ары стали бы в свое время крутить задницей как некоторые наши соседи, их бы давным давно с "двух сторон" в порошок стерли, не думаю что армения смогла бы в одиночку тягаться с азербайджаном и турцией. В общем все довольны кроме азеров и турок.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 30 New
      -3
      Quote: HAIFISCH
      Did the Armenians show such a figure?

      Quote: HAIFISCH
      In general, everyone is happy except for Azeris and Turks.

      Mlyn, the author writes here that in Azerbaijan this news gave the effect of an exploding bomb)))))
      Nothing of the kind, in one or two news sites they said about it and how that is normal!
      Why did they get that it somehow scares us?))))))
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 8 June 2013 19: 36 New
        +8
        Quote: Yarbay
        Mlyn, the author writes here that in Azerbaijan this news gave the effect of an exploding bomb)))))

        Magazines sometimes want to eat, so they write. Well this is not tossing bags laughing
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 53 New
          -3
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Magazines sometimes want to eat, so they write. Well this is not tossing bags

          This was especially killed - ** Viktor Yakubyan, an expert on the problems of the Transcaucasus, told REGNUM with a fair amount of mockery. **))))))))))))))
          Actually, he is a military analyst, then an expert on the problems of the Caucasus))))
          Generally kindergarten))))))
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 8 June 2013 19: 58 New
            +9
            Quote: Yarbay
            with a fair amount of mockery, Viktor Yakubyan, an expert on the problems of the Caucasus.


            And judging by the surname, it’s clearly not an Azerbaijani
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 21 New
              -1
              Quote: Vadivak
              And judging by the surname, it’s clearly not an Azerbaijani

              Yes, that’s not the point !!
              Though let it be Papuan)))
              If I am not mistaken last time, he compared the armies of the three Transcaucasian countries!
              I was shocked!
              Not having its own fleet to call the Georgian fleet the weakest, not having aviation considered another country where the attack aircraft are let out the weakest?)))
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 8 June 2013 20: 35 New
                14
                Quote: Yarbay
                If I am not mistaken last time, he compared the armies of the three Transcaucasian countries!


                Now it’s clear that from this series there is also Pasha Felgenhauer who lives in a parallel world, I quote his most famous forecast for the war with Georgia

                "There will be very heavy losses for the Russian troops and there will be thousandth losses, including for our aircraft. You will have to face a fairly serious Georgian air defense system. You don’t have to drive militants around the North Caucasus. You must understand that you will have to fight for Ossetians and bear very heavy losses. Otherwise, we need to come to a political agreement. I hope that now the fire will stop and the search will begin for Ossetia to return to Georgia. There seems to be no other option. "
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 52 New
              -3
              By the way. And the root (in) of Amilia is Azerbaijani ........ as in a movie - but a Cossack mishandled ...... laughing
  • omsbon
    omsbon 8 June 2013 19: 23 New
    +5
    A big howl will rise in Turkish and Azeri regions over the deployment of Iskander-M complexes, but Russia should proceed first of all from its interests. In general, I believe that friendship with the separated republics should be purely pragmatic!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 54 New
      -4
      OMSBON - we pay for Russian weapons with live green money ..... unlike Armenia .. which each time puts its hand in your pocket too .... fellow
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 9 June 2013 00: 42 New
        +8
        Dear Vurgun! I want to say that today, everyone has different interests, and Russia, which pulled all republics out of state, should now proceed only from its interests, from its own benefit and its security. Azerbaijan is now reaching for Turkey, it is obvious that one cannot count on fraternal relations, and it is not necessary either. the betrayer will betray the second!
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 9 June 2013 11: 16 New
          -2
          as far as I know, Russia yes, is pulling backward republics such as Armenia
          here I AGREE !!
          what should protect my interests - I am with 2 hands for !!!!
          and about our relations --- we have an external political policy vector - equilateral. we want to build equal relations with all our neighbors !!!!!!
          but about betrayal --- this question is not for us !!!!!
          Sincerely ...
  • ruslan7608
    ruslan7608 8 June 2013 19: 32 New
    20
    Armenia has no other ally in Transcaucasia except Russia. But Russia does not have a more reliable ally except Armenia, no matter how much he declares good-neighborly relations, he takes all his actions with the blessing of Turkey, it’s not worth talking about Georgia at all.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 8 June 2013 20: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: ruslan7608
      and here Russia has no more reliable ally except Armenia,


      So like Ossetia and Abkhazia recognized
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        So like Ossetia and Abkhazia recognized

        The Armenians admitted ???? You are mistaken, this was not.
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 14: 26 New
        -8
        Quote: Vadivak
        So like Ossetia and Abkhazia recognized


        Notes by the Consul General of Russia in Erzurum and Van General Mayevsky
        The Armenians of the city make up the main trading class of the population of those cities where there are no worthy rivals — the Greeks. Armenians industrialists and artisans are also concentrated exclusively in cities. Both of them form well-known proportions in order to better exploit their fishery.
        In the character of the urban Armenians, it should be noted some features that appeared in them, it seems, only from very recent times. An Armenian citizen who has come into contact with some kind of education, having completed at least an elementary parish school, acquires the highest degree of opinion about the political importance of the Armenian nation, in general he has a wonderful vanity, arrogant tone, great conceit and some kind of special confidence that that if the Armenians do not currently play a big political role, it is only because they are under the yoke of Turkey;
        Further, among urban Armenians, and especially among young people, one cannot fail to notice a greater number of people who like to engage in any kind of politics, who generally willingly flaunted their supposedly subtle understanding of all kinds of political combinations ... Complaints about the oppressed position of Armenians in Turkey can in no way be attributed to the share of Armenians the townspeople who always enjoyed a sufficient degree of freedom, security and well-being Their social position, in all respects, was more than satisfactory. Somewhat different conditions are the Armenians-villagers. As mentioned earlier, their main activity is focused on agriculture. The system of irrigation of fields and cultivation of cultivation brings good income here and ensures a completely comfortable existence. It can be safely stated that Turkish Armenians were always provided with a significant abundance of foodstuffs, and their material well-being was higher than the well-being of even Russian peasants in central Russia
      3. Arminian power
        Arminian power 10 September 2013 11: 36 New
        0
        It seems that Russia did not recognize Karabakh.GEOPOLITICS HOWEVER
        Quote: Vadivak
        So like Ossetia and Abkhazia recognized
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 56 New
      -5
      The Armenian resource “lragir” published a very interesting analysis of Russian policy in the South Caucasus, Vesti.Az reports.


      According to the author Igor Muradyan, “Armenia suggests the possibility of developing relations with NATO and the European Union and, at the same time, preserving the current format of relations with Russia and the CSTO. However, in addition to such a large-scale goal, there are more specific tasks, primarily military tasks industrial enterprises that are interested in supplying arms to Azerbaijan, which has now become limited. In addition, Russian energy companies believe that as a result of Russian policy, they have lost the chance to work in the oil and gas sector of Azerbaijan. It should also be said about the hopes for a larger arms supply to Turkey.

      And this is a lot, not to mention the fact that the Russian “intellectual” elite, which the Russian authorities are holding in a “black body”, decided that the time has come to earn a lot from lobbying the interests of Azerbaijan and Turkey, which is happening on a large scale. Thus, the combination of all these interests can become quite successful in pushing Armenia out of relations with Russia, ”the expert said.
  • v53993
    v53993 8 June 2013 19: 34 New
    +7
    Army1 (1) Today, 16:04
    It seems to me that the radius of the BALLISTIC rocket of the Iskader complex is higher than 500 km.


    Russia has always been modest.
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  • HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 8 June 2013 19: 40 New
    +6
    Quote: Yarbay
    Nothing of the kind, in one or two news sites they said about it and how that is normal!
    Why did they get that it somehow scares us?))))))

    This is figurative. The reaction may not be like a bomb that exploded, but the military will make conclusions unambiguously. hi, the radius of defeat at the Iskander is decent, plus s-300, and the Armenians calmly and the Turk from stupidity will keep.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 22: 49 New
      -3
      Quote: HAIFISCH
      decent range for Iskander

      if against us, our air defense is also not bast))))))))
      If against Turkey, or rather against NATO !!
      And what kind of nonsense can the Turks commit ??
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 June 2013 12: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: HAIFISCH
      The reaction may not be like a bomb that exploded, but the military will make conclusions unambiguously.

      Yes, what conclusions should Azerbaijan draw ??? The fact that Russia further supports the occupier ??
      the appearance of at least a thousand iskanders is not cold or hot for Azerbaijan because RUSSIA BOUNDS WITH AZERBAIJAN AND THERE ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE BORDER THERE ARE MORE STILL TOYS,
  • kind
    kind 8 June 2013 19: 47 New
    +7
    The maximum radius of destruction includes: the provinces of Trabzon, Bayburt, Erzurum, Mush, Bitlis, Siirt, Van, Hakkari, Erdzincan (partially), Bingol. TOTAL ORDER 20% of the territory of Turkey !!! In Azerbaijan, coverage is almost 100%. Those. as they say, gentlemen, there is information for consideration!
  • Black
    Black 8 June 2013 19: 59 New
    12
    Реванш, к которому так стремится Азербайджан, даже если он - "правое дело", неминуемо приведет к острой дестабилизации во всем северо-кавказском регионе. Может лучше дружить??? У нас в Волгограде на днях прошел форум дружбы с Азербайджаном, заложен парк Дружбы...Может лучше всеж торговать, да жить мирно?
    1. Artmark
      Artmark 8 June 2013 21: 39 New
      +4
      I am for world peace !!! hi
    2. Airman
      Airman 8 June 2013 22: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      Реванш, к которому так стремится Азербайджан, даже если он - "правое дело", неминуемо приведет к острой дестабилизации во всем северо-кавказском регионе. Может лучше дружить??? У нас в Волгограде на днях прошел форум дружбы с Азербайджаном, заложен парк Дружбы...Может лучше всеж торговать, да жить мирно?


      First, you need to remove the azer from the markets so that our grandmothers trade there, and then you can talk about peaceful life.
      1. Black
        Black 8 June 2013 23: 43 New
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        Quote: Povshnik
        First, you need to remove the azer from the markets so that our grandmothers trade there, and then you can talk about peaceful life.

        Well, nobody talks about military life.
        Azerbaijanis trading in markets tend to have dual citizenship. What do you propose to distribute jobs on the fifth point? Then from banks and dental surgeries maybe we also ask for a way out?
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 00 New
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        and now listen to what GOOCH writes on the next page - I live in Siberia, on the shore of Lake Baikal, a city that was built mostly by Komsomol members from the Azerbaijan SSR, I see a lot of Azerbaijanis in the markets, I don’t know about non-washable socks, or how did you smell them? I didn’t see something, the food products sold are quite acceptable (this is Siberia, bananas, coconuts, pomegranates do not grow here, so they have a separate respect that they still import them here), the Russians next door sell tomatoes, cucumbers and others in the same market vegetables, for example, for Azerbaijanis a kilogram of tomatoes costs 50-55 rubles, for Russians a kilogram 80-90 rubles, though not always fresh, because they take it extremely rarely at that price, for Russians a kilogram of Omul costs 450-500 r (??? By the way I live on the shore of Lake Baikal, where do I not understand such prices? It turns out that growing a kilogram of apricot, collecting it, and bringing it from Azerbaijan to Siberia is cheaper than going out for 10 minutes from the house to the lake, catching a kilogram of omul and selling it’s for my fellow citizens), I don’t see any shoals on the part of migrants, many Russians, because of not very favorable life situations, work as loaders for Azerbaijanis, they get money plus fruits and vegetables, you can take whatever you want - the result is all the money dressed in vodka, vegetables for a snack, the Armenians do not trade for the most part, they have a business in more interesting configurations, for example, the supply of marijuana, organized criminal schemes, Rocket, Extortion, a question, so what prevented you Azerbaijanis from trading in the market? Probably the fact that coming to your country without a residence permit, not knowing the language, not having any connections, they raise some kind of money that allows them to live in your own country?
        1. Black
          Black 9 June 2013 00: 39 New
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          Quote: smersh70
          it turns out that growing a kilogram of apricot, collecting it, and bringing it from Azerbaijan to Siberia is cheaper than going out for 10 minutes from the house to the lake, catching a kilogram of omul and selling it to your fellow citizens), I’m not here any shoals from migrants I see

          Gold words.
          Here on the site often sounds, on the one hand
          - GIVE GREAT RUSSIA !!!!
          with another
          -JEWS BROWN, AZERBAIJANI TRADE, ARMENIANS TURNED OUT, TAJIKI BUILT ....
          In general, everyone was gored. But is the great country great swagger and nagging? Let's trade and build !!! Who is stopping us!
    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 23: 51 New
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      Quote: Chen
      A forum of friendship with Azerbaijan was held recently in Volgograd, the Friendship Park was laid ... Maybe it's better to trade, but live peacefully?

      Historically, we are doomed to this)))
      And this is good!!!
      1. Black
        Black 8 June 2013 23: 57 New
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        Quote: Yarbay
        Historically, we are doomed to this)))


        Sounds doomed ... winked
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 00 New
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          Quote: Chen
          It sounds doomed.

          On the contrary, optimistic!
          The fact is that just periodically, in power in Russia, in the USSR in the Russian Empire, people appeared who, due to religious differences, tried to destroy it!
          I'm just sure that they will be in the future!
          1. Black
            Black 9 June 2013 00: 29 New
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            Quote: Yarbay
            The fact is that just periodically, in power in Russia, in the USSR in the Russian Empire, people appeared who, due to religious differences, tried to destroy it!
            I'm just sure that they will be in the future!


            Sorry, but I don’t remember something over the past 200 years of the supreme leadership in the Russian Empire who would play the national card.
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 8 June 2013 23: 58 New
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      and who is against .... only when a neighbor lives on 20% of your apartment. it is inconvenient to live with him)))))))))))))))))))))
  • Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 8 June 2013 20: 15 New
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    "Россия...сможет эффективно противостоять возможным угрозам, связанным с расползанием очага дестабилизации... в случае начала военной операции Израиля и США против Ирана". - the article says.
    Compensate growing threat from the south -- главная военно-политическая задача руководства страны на сегодняшний день. И здесь хороши все средства:и размещение "Искандеров", которые при необходимости задавят амеровские Пэтриоты; и развертывание новой авиабазы; и замена авиагруппы на новые эффективные авиакомплексы.
    Armenians are our brothers in faith. The Armenian Autocephalous Church is the oldest Orthodox church on the planet. So to protect brothers in faith is a godly cause. Moreover, this is a step towards the further strengthening of the CSTO and its military organization.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 51 New
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      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Armenians are our brothers in faith. The Armenian Autocephalous Church is the oldest Orthodox church on the planet. So to protect brothers in faith is a godly cause. Moreover, this is a step towards the further strengthening of the CSTO and its military organization.

      The middle column on the left has a deep seared on the edges of the crack. It recalls the miracle that was in the reign of the Turkish Sultan Murat the True in 1579. Then the Armenians managed through Jerusalem Pasha to obtain permission for their patriarch to receive the Holy Fire. The Orthodox Jerusalem Patriarch Sophronius IV, along with other Orthodox Christians, was not allowed into the temple. He prayed at the entrance with the doors locked. But in vain the Armenian patriarch prayed in Kuvuklia: the fire never came down. Suddenly one of the columns sat down, and a holy fire came out of the crack in the marble pillar. The patriarch of Jerusalem lit candles from him and handed them over to others. I’ll give a more detailed story abounding in picturesque details of the monk Parfeny (Ageev), the author of the famous book “The Legend of Wandering and Traveling across Russia, Moldova, Turkey and the Holy Land of the monk of the Holy Mount Athos”: “At one time, when the Greeks were completely weighed down by Turkish the yoke, the rich Armenians decided to oust the Greeks from the Holy Sepulcher and from the Resurrection Church: they collected a great amount of money and bribed the Jerusalem authorities, assuring the infidels that the holy light was coming down not for the Greeks, but for the sake of all Christians, and if we Armenians will be there, too get it. The Turks did so according to Armenian will and approved so that the Armenians alone would receive holy light. The Armenians were very happy and wrote to their co-religionists in all lands, so that they would go more to worship, that their will, and a lot of them converged. Great Saturday has come; Armenians all climbed into the temple, and the Turkish army drove the poor Greeks out. Oh, what an indescribable sorrow and sorrow the Greeks filled! There was only one consolation for them - the Tomb of the Savior, and from that they were excommunicated and the holy gates closed for them! Armenians are inside the church, and Orthodox on the street; Armenians have fun, and the Greeks cry; Armenians triumph, and Greeks weep bitterly! The Orthodox stood against the holy gates in the square, and the Turkish army stood around: they were guarding so that there was no riot. Like the patriarch himself, everyone stood with light, having hope even from the Armenians out of the window will receive grace. But the Lord wanted to arrange something else: to show true faith with His fiery finger and console His true slaves - humble Greeks. The time has already come at which grace descends, but it is not there; Armenians were frightened, began to cry and ask God to send grace to them; but the Lord did not hear them. Half an hour has passed and more, but there is no holy light. The day was clean and red. The patriarch sat on the right side. Suddenly thunder struck, and on the left side the middle marble column cracked, and fire burst out of the crack with flame. The patriarch stood up and lit his candles, and all Orthodox Christians lit him. Then everyone rejoiced and rejoiced; and Orthodox Arabs with joy began to jump and jump and shout: “Thou art one our God Jesus Christ; our true faith is one - Orthodox Christians ”! And they started to run all over Jerusalem and raised a noise and a cry all over the hail.
      http://www.pravoslavie.ru/put/30087.htm
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 June 2013 21: 01 New
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        Quote: Yarbay
        Then the Armenians managed through Jerusalem Pasha to obtain permission for their patriarch to receive the Holy Fire.


        It was a matter of trying to spoil

        Quote: Yarbay
        Armenians are our brothers in faith. The Armenian Autocephalous Church is the oldest Orthodox church on the planet.

        Not Orthodox Sasha, they profess Monophysitism, recognize one person, one hypostasis and one nature. From the canonical point of view, the difference between the Orthodox Church and the Monophysite churches is that the latter do not recognize the Ecumenical Councils, starting with the XNUMXth Chalcedon, which adopted the definition (oros) of two natures in Christ, which converge in one person and in one hypostasis .
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 8 June 2013 21: 09 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          It was a matter of trying to spoil

          You see what’s the matter, because the same thing happened to us, they spoiled periodically !!
          It’s just the misfortune of this people that they became hostages of sick elites !!
          Read what the Armenians themselves wrote about their church, about their elites!

          Here are two quotes!
          I think not at all about the people, how much about its elites!


          Memoirs of the Russian diplomat General Mayevsky. Из книги"Массовые убийства, чинимые армянами"
          "Слышал ли кто-либо о народном героизме армян? Где высечены названия их сражений за свободу? Нигде! Потому что, "герои" армян больше были палачами своего народа, чем спасителями".


          Father of Armenian History Movses Khorenatsi (Moses Khorensky) spoke about his fellow tribesmen in the XNUMXth century:
          "-I want to point out the hardheartedness, as well as the arrogance of our people ...
          - rejecting the good, changing the truth ...
          people are obstinate and criminal ..

          -SHOWER WHO DOESN’T BELIEVE GOD!
          -you have done angry and in your lodges did not bring repentance
          -you laid the slaughter and lawlessness, and those who trust in the gentlemen despised
          -поэтому найдут на вас сети того, кого вы не прознали и добыча, за который вы гонялись, сделает вас своей добычей, и вы попадете в те же сети..."

          Nothing in the world is changing, everything is repeating itself!
        2. Hairy Siberian
          Hairy Siberian 8 June 2013 21: 14 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          Not Orthodox Sasha, they profess Monophysitism, recognize one person, one hypostasis and one nature. From the canonical point of view, the difference between the Orthodox Church and the Monophysite churches is that the latter do not recognize the Ecumenical Councils, starting with the XNUMXth Chalcedon, which adopted the definition (oros) of two natures in Christ, which converge in one person and in one hypostasis .

          You are wrong Vadim.
          The Armenian Apostolic Church (an expanded version is also used - the Armenian Holy Apostolic Orthodox Church, the more traditional, historical name is the Apostolic Church of Armenia; among Russian-speaking commentators, the name Armenian-Gregorian Church, introduced in tsarist Russia, is not used by the Armenian Church itself) - one of the ancient Christians churches, which has a number of significant features in dogma and ritual that distinguish it from both Byzantine Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. It belongs to the ancient Orthodox churches. An Armenian rite is used in worship.

          The Armenian Apostolic Church belongs to the group of Ancient Eastern churches. The IV Ecumenical Council did not participate for objective reasons and its decisions, like all Ancient Eastern churches, did not accept. In its dogma, it is based on the decrees of the first three Ecumenical Councils and adheres to the pre-Chalcedonian Christology of St. Cyril of Alexandria, who professed the One of two nature of God, the Word embodied (miaphysitism). Theological critics of the AAC argue that its Christology should be interpreted as Monophysite, which The Armenian Church rejects, anathematizing both Monophysitism and Diophysitism.
          1. atalef
            atalef 8 June 2013 21: 28 New
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            Quote: Hairy Siberian
            o The Armenian Church rejects, anathematizing both Monophysitism and Diophysitism.

            Everything is correct only brains boil re-reading and trying to understand
            The fundamental difference between the Armenian and Orthodox churches. Principles.
            Righteousness - Holy Trinity - Father - Son - Holy Spirit.
            Jesus was born of God.
            The Armenian Church - Jesus was born a man - having risen, became God.
            The difference is cardinal (God forbid. I don’t say that someone believes correctly. And someone doesn’t), just faith is different.
            Different and all. in the postulates.
            1. Hairy Siberian
              Hairy Siberian 8 June 2013 22: 01 New
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              Quote: atalef
              just faith is different.

              The faith is the same - Christianity and this is the most important thing!
              Armenia is the first Christian state in the world (adopted in 301).
              Baptized Armenia Gregory the Illuminator is a saint of the Armenian Church, as well as the Russian Orthodox (where he is known as the holy martyr Gregory, the enlightener of Armenia) and other Orthodox Churches, the Roman Catholic and Armenian Catholic churches.
              So that, as it were, the priests did not interpret Faith; we all walk under Christ.
        3. atalef
          atalef 8 June 2013 21: 18 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          It was a matter of trying to spoil

          In general, in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher I was 50 times and climbed it lengthwise and across and know it by heart, from all limits to all faiths.
          There were different times. When the Catholics ruled, and before that Ethiopians and Copts were strange. but there was a time when the Orthodox even built a chapel inside the church (not a heard case). Empires rule the world. Rules Germany (in Jerusalem) at the end of the 19th century. then Russia. now no one.
          In general, Armenians (oddly enough) are the most problematic. All fights. riots and problems in the Temple of the Lord (Golgotha) only from them. Take my word for it.


          Quote: Vadivak
          Not Orthodox Sasha, they profess Monophysitism, recognize one person, one hypostasis and one nature

          I will explain more simply. Orthodox accept Christ - born of God. Armenians perceive Him as God only after resurrection (i.e. born human)
          This is a huge difference. If you look at the Orthodox icons. born Jesus is already with a halo. appears on Armenian halo only after resurrection.
          This is a fundamental difference. Describing earlier Christian churches (Armenians. Copts. Ethiopians) from later states that adopted Christianity as a monotheistic religion.
          1. valerii41
            valerii41 23 September 2013 18: 46 New
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            The saviors of human civilization are fighting in the Temple of the Lord to the Russian tsars, so the brains were corrected by Christianity, those with a fool began to resettle Armenians in Russia, to places where people lived for centuries. Armenians have a very high culture of stabbing and the consequences for neighbors are very difficult
        4. valerii41
          valerii41 23 September 2013 18: 13 New
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          The Armenians in 451 wanted to put a paw on Christianity, but it did not work, and pride remained for everyone to decide everything
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 8 June 2013 21: 37 New
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        Quote: Yarbay
        in the reign of the Turkish Sultan Murat the True in 1579.

        Quote: Yarbay
        The Turks did according to Armenian will and approved

        Look, the Turks did so much for the Armenians and are still unhappy with them !!)))
        1. Fidain
          Fidain 9 June 2013 00: 47 New
          +4
          Я удивляюсь вашему цинизму,хотя уже за столько времени надо уже привыкнуть что тюркские племена одинаковые, <<всю смею вырежут а тебя оставят и ещё потребуют что бы благодарими был>>...
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 21: 44 New
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            Quote: Fidain
            Я удивляюсь вашему цинизму,хотя уже за столько времени надо уже привыкнуть что тюркские племена одинаковые, <<всю смею вырежут а тебя оставят и ещё потребуют что бы благодарими был>>

            Simeon Lehatsi, who went on a trip through the cities and villages of the Ottoman Empire, emphasized that there, under Muslim rule, the Christian Armenians had no reason for discomfort. He wrote: “During the reign of the Greeks, not a single Armenian entered Istanbul. When the Turks took Istanbul, they brought invitations and persuasion from many areas of the Armenians. In exactly the same way, the Turks took the large and magnificent lands from the Greeks and handed them over to the Armenians ”(Simeon Lehatsi. Decree. Op., Pp. 145-146).

            The Russian Caucasian scholar N.N. Shavrov pointed out that as early as the beginning of the 1911th century the Ottoman government took care of all its subjects, including the Armenians (Shavrov N.N. A new threat to the Russian cause in Transcaucasia. St. Petersburg, 114, p. 116, XNUMX).

            In this regard, we recall that the Greeks considered the Armenians as their main enemies, because it was Byzantium that twice deprived them of national statehood. The first time was in the 1988th century, when Byzantium and the Sassanid Empire defeated the Armenian state in Asia Minor and divided its territory among themselves; in the XI century, the same Byzantium again liquidated the Armenian Ani kingdom restored in the IX century in the same Asia Minor (Yuzbashyan K.N. Armenian states of the Bagratid era and Byzantium of the IX-XI centuries. Moscow, 4, pp. 6-234, XNUMX).
            By the way, it is worth noting the following remark by Simeon Lehatsi, who, in connection with the long stay of the Armenians within the Muslim states in the 145th century, drew attention to the following very important circumstance: “Greeks are very evil and unjust, and the worst enemies of Armenians. At the sight of us they spat and shouted “shikli”, which means “dog” or “heretic”. Greeks are the original enemies of the Armenians. How much evil they brought down on the heads of our ancestors, how they destroyed the kingdom of Armenia. I don’t know how we deserved that, with the exception of the Greeks, all nations, both believers and unbelievers, love us, although our people do not have unanimity, and the Armenians do not love each other, which made them known ”(Simeon Lehatsi. Decree. Op. Op. ., p. 146-XNUMX).
            Thus, the main enemy of the Christian Armenians was the Christian power, because of which the Armenians twice lost their own statehood: in the IV and XI centuries. As a result, they have not had it for more than 1.400 years.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 21: 49 New
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            Quote: Fidain
            Я удивляюсь вашему цинизму,хотя уже за столько времени надо уже привыкнуть что тюркские племена одинаковые, <<всю смею вырежут а тебя оставят и ещё потребуют что бы благодарими был>>

            I am surprised at your cynicism !!
            That is, you can kill and cut the Turks is normal, but when you get on the nose is a tragedy ??
            February 1915 Turkey. In the book of J. Malevil, “The Armenian Tragedy of 1915”, it is indicated that the number of civilian Muslim population of Eastern Anatolia, systematically destroyed by Armenian terrorist and bandit formations, barely reaches 1 people. According to the author, many Russian officers, outraged by this massacre, used force against Armenian thugs. Naturally, the atrocities and pogroms of the civilian population, coupled with the frank duplicity of Armenian propaganda, soon overflowed the patience of the Ottoman authorities, and on the order of the High Command on April 600, 000, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ordered the immediate closure of all Armenian committees - terrorist organizations in Istanbul and other major Turkish cities.



            "Я убивал мусульман всеми возможными способами. Хотя иногда было жаль тратить на это пули. Самый лучший способ - собрать всех этих собак и бросить в колодцы, а потом забросать колодцы камнями, как я и делал. Я собирал всех женщин, мужчин и детей и забрасывал их большими камнями до самого верха. Они не должны жить на земле. Никогда."
            A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936.
          3. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 21: 53 New
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            Quote: Fidain
            I wonder at your cynicism

            May 11, 1916. Malazgird. Turkey. Armenian gangs brutally killed 20 people in the Turkish city of Malazgird. Even infants were tortured, who were then thrown into the fire.000
            May 22, 1916. Wang. Turkey. The Turkish village of Keprikey near the city of Van was completely destroyed by Armenian gangs. Killed 200 people. Those who tried to resist were subjected to a particularly sophisticated execution.74
            July 29, 1906. Karhan. Azerbaijan. Armenian gangs attacked the Azerbaijani village of Karhan. They quickly managed to capture the village, as the unarmed peasants had nothing to resist. Well-armed Armenian gangs killed all the men in the village. 30 women and children who managed to escape and hide behind the hill were soon discovered due to the crying baby of a young mother, Paciza. The story has preserved the name of the baby - the girls of Firuza. The fugitives were mercilessly destroyed. Of the residents of the Azerbaijani village of Karhan, no 56 were left alive.
            July 12, 1906 Shusha. Azerbaijan. A large-scale attack on Shusha by gangs of about 10 thousand people recruited from nearby Armenian villages. (Those of the Armenians who refused to participate in this massacre were executed by the sentence of the terrorist organization “Dashnaktsutyun”). The fighting went on for five days. All Muslim houses were bombed. The brutal bandits burned babies right in the cradle, pulled the children out of the hands of their mothers and smashed the heads of babies on stones.
            November 15-18, 1905. Ganja Azerbaijan. The Armenian gangs, carrying out the installation of the terrorist organization “Dashnaktsutyun”, carried out a bloody massacre of the civilian population of the city. According to historians, this was one of the most brutal reprisals of Armenian bandits against civilians in those years. They drove people alive in droves in crowds (most often in mosques).
            December 14, 1917. Azerbaijan. According to the report of the member of the Extraordinary Investigative Commission, N. Mikhailov, an Azerbaijani gang by the name of Bakhshali and his whole family were brutally murdered by an Armenian gang on the road from Agdash to Kutkashen (Gabala). The bandits took off their skin and in this form hung corpses on the trees. 81

            December 1917 According to the report of the member of the Extraordinary Investigative Commission, N. Mikhailov, 5 bodies of Muslims stabbed with bayonets were found in Bagirsky Gorge. Then, near the Chamakhli station, the corpses of 22 Azerbaijani peasants who were killed in the same way were discovered. The eyes of the victims were gouged out. At about the same time, 8 corpses of Azerbaijanis, pierced with bayonets, with goggled eyes, were found in the village of Araby. Among them are women with cut breasts. Near the dead, the holy book of Muslims, the Koran, was trampled in manure. In the Azerbaijani village of Azakhsham, 9 women and 9 children were killed. In the Kurdish village of Kurd, 67 dead were found, the corpses of children were thrown into a ditch. According to the report of the member of the Extraordinary Investigation Commission N. Mikhailov, “the Armenians threw young children into the air and chopped them up with drafts”. In the same village of Kurd, Muslims were found in the houses, nailed to the walls with nails. The investigation established that all of these atrocities were perpetrated by an Armenian gang in the region.

            In the same year, according to academician Zia Buniyatov, the Armenian terrorist organization Dashnaktsutyun in the cities of Trabzon, Bitlis, Erzurum carried out a brutal massacre of the local population. The facts are confirmed by the reports of generals Przhevalsky and Odishelidze.


            I brought a small part of the crimes of the Armenian fascists!

            http://karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/armyanstvo/arm1-3.php
            http://karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/armyanstvo/arm1-4.php
            1. Arminian power
              Arminian power 23 September 2013 15: 39 New
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              vonyu4ie PORTYASNKI
      3. WILD
        WILD 9 June 2013 00: 06 New
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        Quote: Yarbay
        Yarbay (1)

        My question is, if you are so cool, why do the Armenians have you, why are you moaning here on the site?
        Like, we have such cool heroes, but we can’t take Karabakh ?!
        Explain, please.
        Regards, Russian guy!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 25 New
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          Quote: WILD
          Like, we have such cool heroes, but we can’t take Karabakh ?!

          Who said that???
          Of course there are cool heroes, but where who said that we can’t?
          Quote: WILD
          Are you moaning here on the site?

          while our enemies are moaning, I personally try to familiarize myself with the fact that I know dear colleagues and learn something new for myself!
          Sincerely, Azerbaijani, probably already uncle))))))
          1. WILD
            WILD 9 June 2013 00: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: Yarbay
            Who said that???
            Of course there are cool heroes, but where who said that we can’t?

            And if you can, then why not?
            WEAKNESS or how?

            Quote: Yarbay
            while our enemies are moaning, I personally try to familiarize myself with the fact that I know dear colleagues and learn something new for myself!
            Sincerely, Azerbaijani, probably already uncle)))))

            Yes, you’re an uncle, why are your enemies still in Karabakh?
            Perhaps it was you who allowed them from your broad shoulder?
            Either your shoulder is not wide or you are not an uncle, or the Armenians have you! love
            1. Arminian power
              Arminian power 10 September 2013 11: 47 New
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              THEIR LANGUAGE IS LONG AS A SNAKE
              Quote: WILD
              Or your shoulder is not wide
              1. valerii41
                valerii41 23 September 2013 19: 07 New
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                We need arguments, not insults, do it on the Armenian site, you even showed your face here. I won’t get in touch with the Armenians
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 54 New
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          Quote: WILD
          My question is, if you are so cool, why do the Armenians have you, why are you moaning here on the site?
          Like, we have such cool heroes, but we can’t take Karabakh ?!
          Explain, please.
          Regards, Russian guy!

          The tough guys were those who remained on the battlefield. And in 41. And in 43, and in 45 and in 92.94 years .....
          the fact is, you don’t want to shed excess blood ..... it’s better to agree with the owner of the shop .... and if the owner agrees .... he will instantly close the shop ... how they once removed the legitimate President Ter-Petrosyan. .
          and still ----- I would not say that many in Moscow talk about cooling Russian-Azerbaijani relations. In Russia, fewer people are interested in what is happening around, even in the former republics of the USSR. ” This was stated by Vesti.Az by a well-known Russian politician, expert, editor-in-chief of the Open electronic newspaper Forum.msk, deputy of the public assembly “National Assembly of the Russian Federation” Anatoly Baranov. conclusion A. Baranov expressed an opinion on the possibility of resolving the Karabakh conflict in the foreseeable future.

          “I do not think that Armenia will leave Karabakh on its own. In addition, the Lachin corridor is strategically important for Armenia and Azerbaijan. Control over this territory will make Baku’s policy more independent from Moscow, and the Kremlin, I hope, still understands this. And how does Baku use this possible independence of its own? The Kremlin does not know this. For example, an independent oil pipeline to the Black Sea, which greatly depreciates V. Putin’s strategic projects in the oil and gas sector. This is exactly Putin must understand. Again, the threat of war in Iran - and Iran is the only source of goods traveling on land for Armenia. If Armenia again finds itself in a blockade, the strategic positions of the Russian Federation in the Caucasus will also obviously be weakened. Well, answer me, why would anyone in Moscow rush to resolve the Karabakh conflict? ”A. Baranov asked.
          1. Artmark
            Artmark 9 June 2013 01: 18 New
            +1
            Tell me, what is the strategic Lachin corridor important for Azerbaijan and how will control over this territory make Baku’s policy independent of Moscow? And cargoes also go to Georgia through Georgia, unless of course you mean military cargoes.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 9 June 2013 11: 20 New
              -1
              The Lachin corridor is the establishment of full control on the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Border control. Customs. hi
        3. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 07: 05 New
          -8
          Quote: WILD
          My question is, if you are so cool, why do the Armenians have you, why are you moaning here on the site?

          Yes, no guy .. I read your comments, it seemed that fate raped you, more than once.

          Like, we have such cool heroes, but we can’t take Karabakh ?!

          Grozny took 4 hours? how is Pasha Grachev, received a birthday present or not? What did Grachev say there? Did Russian soldiers die with a smile on their lips?


          Explain, please.
          Regards, Russian guy!

          It’s one thing to take Karabakh, as if it hadn’t reached Yerevan, and there’s another conversation, can you imagine the number of victims and destruction in the event of such an outcome? Or do you have brain phimosis?
          1. tupolev-95
            tupolev-95 9 June 2013 11: 55 New
            +5
            OOOO! Ostap suffered! Come and take, a mighty Internet fighter!
            1. Gooch
              Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 34 New
              -5
              Quote: Tupolev-95
              OOOO! Ostap suffered! Come and take, a mighty Internet fighter!

              you yourself will demolish the tower) you shouldn’t even strain once again)
              1. tupolev-95
                tupolev-95 9 June 2013 19: 21 New
                +3
                More specifically? Who are we and what will we take down?
                1. Gooch
                  Gooch 9 June 2013 19: 24 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Tupolev-95
                  More specifically? Who are we and what will we take down?

                  Armenians themselves, the tower will be demolished, until you learn how to make friends with your neighbors
                  1. tupolev-95
                    tupolev-95 9 June 2013 19: 40 New
                    +8
                    Мимо.Я не армянин,а флажок армянский потому,что я здесь прохожу службу и нас здесь достаточно,чтобы весь треп по поводу-"возьмем Ереван"так трепом и остался.
                    1. Gooch
                      Gooch 9 June 2013 19: 51 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Tupolev-95
                      Past. I'm not Armenian

                      I did not try to get into your nationality)

                      а флажок армянский потому,что я здесь прохожу службу и нас здесь достаточно,чтобы весь треп по поводу-"возьмем Ереван"так трепом и остался.

                      Никто и не говорил "Возьмём Ереван", я лишь упомянул возможность такого стечения обстоятельств, а вы уже заёжились, как там служба проходит? Каску старайтесь почаще надевать, голову беречь надо
                      1. tupolev-95
                        tupolev-95 9 June 2013 20: 05 New
                        +5
                        Ну да.Как только на сайте поднимается эта тема,так и начинаются взаимные угрозы,оскорбления,домыслы о "возможном стечении обстоятельств".Так что насчет головы опять не по адресу.А служба-везде служба,от себя могу добавить,что по сравнению с Амурской областью - курорт.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 9 June 2013 20: 35 New
                        -7
                        Quote: Tupolev-95
                        Ну да.Как только на сайте поднимается эта тема,так и начинаются взаимные угрозы,оскорбления,домыслы о "возможном стечении обстоятельств".

                        In principle, you are right !!
                        Very few people submit documents!
                        opponents are often unable to answer the case
                        go to srach!
                      3. valerii41
                        valerii41 23 September 2013 19: 35 New
                        -2
                        Флажок большевистский,портянки постирали в народной крови. С Амурской области,как,и с других областей с миру по нитке бабла много утекает в те края, и вам за хорошее стояние на задних лапках может быть вам даютне только понюхать.но и вкусить. В шахтёрских комитетах были вербовщики с Армении и Азербайджана, в пору перестройки,с русскими наглыми мордами.Искали отставных офицеров и старшин для войны в Карабахе,и вам советую не вставать на тропу вербовщика среди русских будете чужим, а те могут вас найти за " Тройной одеколон и сало,что кушали с вас должок"как говорят зеки
                  2. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 9 June 2013 21: 27 New
                    -4
                    Уважаемый, кто здесь сказал "возмём Ереван"? Возмём Карабах и непременно!Потому что это наша земля!А на чужие земли мы не претендуем.
                    1. tupolev-95
                      tupolev-95 9 June 2013 22: 17 New
                      +5
                      [quote] [/ quKarabakh to take, this one, as if it didn’t reach Yerevan, ote]
                    2. Gooch
                      Gooch 10 June 2013 07: 11 New
                      0
                      вы слышали про такие вещи как "предположение" (Вывод, сделанный на основании небольшого количества данных или при отсутствии данных. Идея или мнение основанное на небольшом количестве данных или отсутствии данных) и "утверждение" (мысль, положение, высказывание, которым утверждается, доказывается что-либо) занавес, а теперь прочитайте что я написал выше и не пукайте в лужу.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 June 2013 13: 06 New
      -5
      Quote: WILD
      My question is, if you are so cool, why do the Armenians have you, why are you moaning here on the site

      They settled in the trenches with multi-layered defense. We are not here, but we are trying to convey the truth to people.
      These Armenians were smoked from Karabakh if ​​not for Russia.
      Explain then why cool Armenia signed a defense agreement with Russia ?? Tell me, well, because of Turkey. Is there a CSTO agreement ?? Why sign a separate bilateral ?? More precisely, change it. Indeed, under the old contract 102, the base was obliged to protect the Turkish-Iranian part and now the whole perimeter ??
      It’s like a Kokoity crashes, we shouted that we will disperse the Georgians, and just as the Georgians kicked them out of Tskhinvali in a moment, the Russian troops appeared and the Kokoity disappeared.
      1. Gooch
        Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 38 New
        -3
        Quote: Yeraz
        It’s like a Kokoity crashes, we shouted that we will disperse the Georgians, and just as the Georgians kicked them out of Tskhinvali in a moment, the Russian troops appeared and the Kokoity disappeared.

        Based on a five-day war, colleagues site builders filmed a funny resource, a store of liberated goods, by the Russian Army in Georgia. :)
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 8 June 2013 20: 57 New
    -17
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    So to protect brothers in faith is a godly cause.

    This is from the Russian Brotherhood of Brothers forums


    http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=14923&st=3800&p=909007&#entry90900


    7


    http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1250&p=926813&#entry92681


    3

    Russians are a source for Hitler, not a man for a European, and for an American, why should this Russian be something special for an Armenian?
    http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1550&p=934158&#entry93415


    8
    1. WILD
      WILD 9 June 2013 00: 16 New
      10
      Quote: Yarbay
      This is from the Russian Brotherhood of Brothers forums

      I, dear, I will give such forums to you that you will be numb, but you still have not answered the question! wink
      WEAKNESS, as Bykov said in his film!
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 34 New
        -3
        Quote: WILD
        I’ll give such forums

        what forums?)) do not surprise me with anything))))
        I can expect everything from them!)))
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 9 June 2013 00: 41 New
          +7
          Quote: WILD
          I, dear, I will give such forums to you that you will numb,

          Quote: Yarbay
          what forums?)

          Happy New Year drinks Hot estonian guys wassat
          1. WILD
            WILD 9 June 2013 00: 49 New
            +5
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Happy New Year Hot Estonian guys

            Я готов встретить это НЕДОРОЗУМЕНИЕ на Кавказком хребте, Кара-Кая или Ак-Кая, а может даже Ушба северо=западный хребет это "хорошего" парня устроит?
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 50 New
            -2
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Happy New Year Hot Estonian guys

            Clear))) I am silent))))))
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 9 June 2013 00: 54 New
              +3
              Quote: Yarbay
              Clear))) I am silent))))))

              bully
  • sashka
    sashka 8 June 2013 20: 25 New
    +1
    Мы предупреждали они не поняли. Теперь увидят что все заявления России не пустой звук.Что последние "китайские" предупреждения кончились. Надо будет,добавим. Я рад..
  • honest jew
    honest jew 8 June 2013 20: 32 New
    -4
    Ati-bats! Soldiers walked, They left for the war, They left, they said: “We will not give Syria to the enemy! Go away, damned! We will fight back you!
  • crambol
    crambol 8 June 2013 20: 41 New
    0
    The article is interesting. One thing is bad - there is no district map!
    Vseravno put a plus!
    1. kind
      kind 8 June 2013 21: 17 New
      +3
      Here is a map of the area.
      1. Gooch
        Gooch 8 June 2013 21: 23 New
        -3
        Quote: Good
        Here is a map of the area.

        my advice to you, either you have disabled Windows Aero, or put Windows Ultimate Edition for the style - UG)
        1. kind
          kind 8 June 2013 22: 02 New
          -1
          Thanks, take advantage.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 June 2013 20: 43 New
    +8
    Everything goes according to plan ! slowly and solemnly .. Many mongrels have already pressed their tails .. and they don’t know who to yap ..))))
  • VkadimirEfimov1942
    VkadimirEfimov1942 8 June 2013 21: 09 New
    +5
    The fact that we are responding to the deployment of American missile defense systems in Turkey I many times FOR, but the appearance in print smells like a provocation of Azerbaijan. What will all this lead to in a hot and unstable region !?
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 June 2013 13: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: VkadimirEfimov1942
      The fact that we are responding to the deployment of American missile defense systems in Turkey I many times FOR, but the appearance in print smells like a provocation of Azerbaijan. What will all this lead to in a hot and unstable region !?

      there is a feeling that Russia wants to force Azerbaijan into a strategic alliance with the West, constantly increasing its support for Armenia and making it clear that they are all. And if it weren’t for the Aliyev clan, everyone else would have already launched dozens of US bases here. But even Aliyev would will be forced to look more to the West.
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    1. Gooch
      Gooch 8 June 2013 21: 20 New
      -14
      Quote: voronov
      The time has come to put the Turks and Azeris in a stall am
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 04 New
        -9
        laughing laughing laughing drinks THANKS GOOCH !!!
        1. Gooch
          Gooch 9 June 2013 18: 27 New
          -2
          Petrosyan STYLE :)
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 9 June 2013 22: 23 New
            -1
            Quote: Gooch
            Petrosyan STYLE :)

            Congratulations GOOCH !!!!!! You are already a foreman !!! keep it up)))))
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 9 June 2013 13: 10 New
        -4
        drinks I swear before you were sad here without you, and now with these jokes every comment is smile))
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 9 June 2013 14: 02 New
          -6
          Let's help GOOCH !!!!!!! fellow and then in a day he becomes a senior sergeant, and then, with the help of unfortunate patriots, a young sergeant ...... by the evening everything again falls into place laughing
          he especially noticed the fire bucket on the Armenian POINT-U during the parade ... laughing

          What does a fire bucket cone at the tip of a rocket?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 10 June 2013 07: 32 New
            -1
            Quote: smersh70
            What does a fire bucket cone at the tip of a rocket?

            this is the Armenian modernization-Points-U which has no analogues))
          2. Gooch
            Gooch 10 June 2013 12: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: smersh70
            What does a fire bucket cone at the tip of a rocket?

            Я как это чудо инженерной мысли увидел, сразу вспомнился момент из фильма "Диктатор" :)
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 10 June 2013 21: 25 New
              0
              Quote: Gooch
              Я как это чудо инженерной мысли увидел, сразу вспомнился момент из фильма "Диктатор" :)



              Gooch! YOU have unmatched humor ..... good fellow
    2. Black
      Black 8 June 2013 23: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: voronov
      The time has come to put the Turks and Azeris in a stall

      Well, and what are you so that! This is not good. And look like an adult, a mature person ...
      1. WILD
        WILD 8 June 2013 23: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Chen
        Well, and what are you so that! This is not good. And look like an adult, a mature person ..

        Ну блиндер буду параход, извини, не в стой`ло, а в стойло`, как бы так.!!!!!

      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 9 June 2013 21: 35 New
        -1
        everyone speaks according to their level of intelligence.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 June 2013 21: 29 New
    +3
    За нашими Западными "партнерами" нужен глаз да глаз. Солидарен с действиями российского военного руководства. Закавказье непростой регион. Россия просто обязана иметь там военную силу. Наши "партнеры" по НАТО уважают только силу. Печальный опыт Ливии показывает, какая судьба ожидает слабых. Хочется пожелать некоторым политикам в Армении проявлять сдержанность в своих оценках происходящего.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 8 June 2013 21: 40 New
    +5
    Во всей этой истории с "Искандерами", приятным оказался один момент. Реакция МО, прошло немного времени с появления Пэтриот", как получите господа империалисты ответочку.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 June 2013 21: 40 New
    +1
    If Russia neutralizes missile defense in Turkey, it is easier to support centrifugal forces inside the country than to scare them with missiles!
  • Chuk-15
    Chuk-15 8 June 2013 21: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Army1
    multiple launch rocket system "Tornado-G"

    good setup too
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 June 2013 21: 53 New
    +2
    We are gradually building up our military presence (as in the good old days). The world of bugs hasn’t gone by friendship .. So, sorry .. And this is just the beginning ..
  • individual
    individual 8 June 2013 22: 07 New
    +9
    Размещение в Гюмри "Искандеров М" конечно же confront дислоцированным "Пэтриот" Нато на территории Турции.
    Armenia, a member of the CSTO and Russia are entitled to use the territory of the Russian base to repulse NATO missile defense.
    And Armenia’s priority over Azerbaijan seems to be concomitant and nothing more.
    In opposition Armenia and Azerbaijan Russia supports neutrality.
    1. Airman
      Airman 8 June 2013 23: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: individ
      Размещение в Гюмри "Искандеров М" конечно же confront дислоцированным "Пэтриот" Нато на территории Турции.
      Armenia, a member of the CSTO and Russia are entitled to use the territory of the Russian base to repulse NATO missile defense.
      And Armenia’s priority over Azerbaijan seems to be concomitant and nothing more.
      In opposition Armenia and Azerbaijan Russia supports neutrality.


      Во времена ЕБН во Владикавказе загружались 2 борта ИЛ-76 с танковыми и арт.боеприпасами (по 40 т.): один летел в Гюмри, другой в Азербайджан, и через 2-3 дня в карабахе начинались бои. Боеприпасы кончились -конец войне - до следующих бортов.Это называется "нейтралитет" ни вашим,ни нашим.
  • gabatikuk
    gabatikuk 8 June 2013 22: 07 New
    +7
    [quote = Yarbay] [quote = Arberes] Does each side consider itself right? [/ quote]
    but to consider yourself right and be it are two different things!)))))
    I've been discussing with many Armenian colleagues here for over a year, making sure that they have no documentary, non-historical and no other serious arguments !!
    They attacked our people first and drove them out of Armenia!
    In Sumgayit, it was the Armenians who organized the crowds of bandits and the pogroms of the Armenians themselves, according to the materials of the USSR prosecutor’s office! If you google that Eduard Grigoryan, I didn’t arrest him !!
    From history, I can cite hundreds of documents about their mass resettlement in Kakrabi and Transcaucasia in the 19th century!
    So there’s nothing to talk about! [/ Quot







    Please stop lying, what you write is a lie from beginning to end, the fact is that our Azerbaijani colleagues are not ceasing to repeat their false theories and really they themselves began to believe in themselves. Understand that this is not serious, Do not underestimate others by overestimating yourself, and do not underestimate our Russian colleagues: do not powder their brains, they are also smart like you, and naturally they can distinguish something
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 07 New
      -8
      We will help you not to starve --- fellow Azerbaijan can supply gas to Armenia. This was announced in an exclusive interview with ANS TV by the President of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan Rovnag Abdullayev. According to him, Azerbaijan is a humane country and recognizes its role as a regional leader. If Armenia turns to us for help in the gas issue, we will undoubtedly help, said Rovnag Abdullayev. Recall that Azerbaijan sells gas to Georgia at a price of $ 230 per thousand cubic meters. Currently, Armenia buys gas from Russia at a price of $ 315 per thousand cubic meters.


      An action was held near the building of the Russian Embassy in Yerevan against increasing tariffs for gas supplied to the republic. Activists came to the embassy with posters: “Russia, leave Armenia!” and "Gazprom, get out of Armenia!" According to the protesters, a rise in price will inevitably lead to an increase in utility costs, prices for goods and services.

      They also asked the ambassador to influence the ArmRosgazprom monopolist in order to postpone the increase in gas prices in order to manage to hold public hearings on this issue.

      It should be noted that ArmRosgazprom turned to the Public Services Regulatory Commission of Armenia with a proposal to increase the natural gas tariff by 64%. If the company’s proposal is accepted, the tariff will increase from 132 thousand drams to 221 thousand drams per 1000 cubic meters.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 9 June 2013 01: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: smersh70
        An action was held near the building of the Russian Embassy in Yerevan against increasing tariffs for gas supplied to the republic. Activists came to the embassy with posters: “Russia, leave Armenia!” and "Gazprom, get out of Armenia!" According to the protesters, a rise in price will inevitably lead to an increase in utility costs, prices for goods and services.

        Deceive allies gentlemen belay Can they give it for free? Yes, even pay for what they take and our base does not allow them to gobble up without horseradish? fool
        1. WILD
          WILD 9 June 2013 01: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Can they give it for free?

          Here it is like Mikhalych! laughing
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 9 June 2013 01: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: WILD
            Here it is like Mikhalych!

            Well, that’s it! cook ski n and darnon-vaseline mixture love We will carry out explanatory work among you wassat
      2. Arminian power
        Arminian power 23 September 2013 16: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: smersh70
        Rovnag Abdullaev. According to him, Azerbaijan is a humane country and recognizes its role as a regional leader
        wassat wassat laughing
    2. sscha
      sscha 9 June 2013 02: 15 New
      -2
      Es kes serum. hi
  • kind
    kind 8 June 2013 22: 37 New
    +5
    Here's the news in the topic:
    Armenian Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan may rejoice: his hard work on introducing “European values” in the country was appreciated. Noticed. Thanked. They stroked the head. Finally, they assured us that they would be near us, such as shoulder to shoulder, if only we would not turn off the path that leads to the "civilization" of the country. But the first “congratulatory” Tigran Sargsyan received not from anyone, but from our “tolerant” neighbors. So, yesterday, the chairman of the Azerbaijani opposition party “Umid”, the deputy of the Milli Majlis (Parliament) of Azerbaijan, Igbal Agazadeh, issued an appeal to the Armenian people (read - to the Prime Minister personally).

    According to Vesti.Az, with reference to the party’s press service, the appeal indicates the recent increase in Russia's activity in the region, which is manifested in the creation of the Eurasian Union and pressure in various ways on countries that do not agree to join this union.

    “Tough pressure is exerted on Armenia. At yesterday’s rally in Armenia, the slogan “Russia, hands off our homeland!” It is very pleasant that in Armenia there are enough people who have the right views on the importance of peace, security and harmony in the South Caucasus. Therefore, I appeal to the Armenian people. Russia's withdrawal from Armenia will mean the end of Russian hegemony, ultimately the achievement of peace in the South Caucasus, the end of separatism in Abkhazia, Ossetia, Karabakh, the establishment of peace and harmony in countries whose borders are recognized by the UN. Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia will find enough strength within themselves to achieve peace, ”the statement says.

    Further pleasantly surprised people emphasize that Russia is the only factor pushing neighbors into the conflict: “The ousting of Russia from the region meets our common aspirations and will lay the foundation for peace and harmony, good neighborliness in our region. Therefore, in Armenia, everyone should make efforts to leave Russia from our region. Until Russia leaves, nothing will change in our region. Armenia will not be able to create an independent state in the occupied lands of Azerbaijan. Thus, there will be no peace in our region. If we manage to create a South Caucasian Union like the European Union, then the peoples of the South Caucasus will be able to live in peace and harmony. For the sake of this, and therefore, in order to oust Russia from the region, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia should make joint efforts, sit down at the negotiating table not on the issues that divide us, but on those moments that unite us, and first of all deal with those who pushes us to war. Armenia can make the greatest contribution to reconciliation. Once again, we appeal to the Armenian people to continue to act to oust Russia from our region and establish sustainable peace in the South Caucasus. ”

    What peace will be restored in the "occupied territories of Azerbaijan" after the departure of Russia, we wrote and we will not repeat all this. As for the aspirations of the Azerbaijani opposition, to some extent they are quite amenable to explanation, which cannot be said about Armenian politicians ...

    On the whole, the text of the appeal somehow reminded of 1988, when after the devastating earthquake came (through Azerbaijan) wagons with humanitarian aid to the republic, on which was written in chalk: "Congratulations on the earthquake!" Apparently, this time in the neighboring country, the pro-Western orientation of Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan became the occasion for wild fun. Why's that?
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 22: 52 New
      -10
      Quote: Good
      on which by hand in chalk it was written: "Congratulations on the earthquake!"

      What do you say and not one was not taken in the photo?)))
      On the contrary, the first to help the pilots were the Azerbaijani rescuers, whose plane the air traffic controllers brought up the mountain!
      Killed about 60 rescuers and the crew of the aircraft!
      They didn’t even put a stone in their memory !!
      1. Artmark
        Artmark 9 June 2013 00: 20 New
        +5
        Enough to lie !!!! Every resident of Spitak knows who was the first to come to the rescue! And Azerbaijan was not the first not the last !!!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 36 New
          -8
          Quote: ArtMark
          Stop lying !!!

          Yes, I’m not lying, they just don’t tell you about it!
          Also in Spitak there was a rescue squad led by Emil Akhundov, Honored Builder of Azerbaijan!
          Alas, your elites poisoned you with lies !!
          1. Artmark
            Artmark 9 June 2013 00: 49 New
            +4
            if you don’t remember, I said that I myself am from Spitak, I myself saw everything! here (the elite have nothing to do with it!
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 June 2013 20: 27 New
              -4
              Quote: ArtMark
              if you don’t remember, I said that I myself am from Spitak, I myself saw everything! here (the elite have nothing to do with it!

              Well then it’s badly seen !!
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 June 2013 20: 56 New
              0
              Quote: ArtMark
              if you don’t remember, I said that I myself am from Spitak, I myself saw everything! here (the elite have nothing to do with it!

              I’m telling you that a lie with mother’s milk passes !!
              Remember the face in the photo !!
              But this is not only why the Azerbaijani side extended a helping hand to Armenia. Both republics were part of one state - the USSR. Naturally, all the republics of the former Soviet Union rendered all possible assistance in eliminating the consequences of the earthquake in Armenia. Indeed, already on December 9, 1988, by the decision of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, an operational headquarters was created in Armenia to deal with the consequences of the earthquake. Three days later, the Minister of Industrial Construction of Azerbaijan, Ajdar Aliyev, leaves for Leninakan to get acquainted with the situation. After he returned from Armenia, by the decision of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Azerbaijan, a construction detachment was created to eliminate the effects of the earthquake. The head of this construction team was me. Our delegation included about 200 people. The deadlines for training were very tight - within a week, a train of 25 wagons was sent to Armenia. In one of them there was a headquarters in which we slept, in the other - a dining room, in the third we kept supplies - cereals, oil, canned food, in the fourth - clothes and uniforms. In the remaining cars there was equipment - excavators, bulldozers, cranes. In a word, Soviet Azerbaijan then provided comprehensive and great assistance to Soviet Armenia. But I am deeply convinced that there should not be an unresolved Armenian-Azerbaijani Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between our countries, an independent Azerbaijan would be the first to render assistance to independent Armenia if another disaster happened there. We are so educated, we are always ready to come to the aid of a neighbor, to help someone who needs her.



              http://www.1news.az/interview/20121207115320934.html
              1. sscha
                sscha 28 June 2013 17: 34 New
                +2
                азербайджанецы воспитаны в соответствии с мусульманскими догмами - Обмануть "гяура" - не значит провиниться перед аллахом, ведь "гяур" - неверный!
                And this means that deceive people of a different faith - Allah will forgive!
                This is your truth.
                And that's enough. Seen enough!
                How old are you and who of your relatives fought for your homeland during the Second World War? hi
              2. sscha
                sscha 28 June 2013 17: 48 New
                0
                азербайджанецы воспитаны в соответствии с мусульманскими догмами - Обмануть "гяура" - не значит провиниться перед аллахом, ведь "гяур" - неверный!
                And this means that deceive people of a different faith - Allah will forgive!
                This is your truth.
                And that's enough. Seen enough!
                How old are you and who of your relatives fought for your homeland during the Second World War? hi
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 9 June 2013 02: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        Quote: Good
        on which by hand in chalk it was written: "Congratulations on the earthquake!"

        What do you say and not one was not taken in the photo?)))
        On the contrary, the first to help the pilots were the Azerbaijani rescuers, whose plane the air traffic controllers brought up the mountain!
        Killed about 60 rescuers and the crew of the aircraft!
        They didn’t even put a stone in their memory !!

        Quote from Wikipedia:
        As part of the aid delivery, Yugoslav and Soviet planes crashed. The Soviet aircraft was Il-76 from a regiment of military transport aircraft stationed in the city of Panevezys (Lithuanian SSR) and flying out of Azerbaijan. The cause of the accident was an incorrect pressure setting at the transition level, as a result of which the plane crashed into the mountain [2].

        Another quote:
        On the hill of the cemetery, where the victims of the earthquake are buried, a metal church was built.
        Can the victims of THESE air crashes be considered as victims of the effects of the earthquake? I think it is possible and appropriate. All are immortalized!
        So A-Z-Z-Y !!! negative
      3. Arminian power
        Arminian power 23 September 2013 16: 16 New
        +1
        THESE YEARS, YOU ROBBED AND DIDED IN ARMENIANS IN SUMGAIT
        Quote: Yarbay
        Azerbaijan rescuers are the first to help pilots
    2. Black
      Black 8 June 2013 23: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Good
      The ousting of Russia from the region meets our common aspirations and will lay the foundation for peace and harmony, good neighborliness in our region.


      Paraphrase ...
      Armenians, expel Russia, relax and .... bend a little !!!!
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 11 New
      -10
      I served at the pumping station at the SKP ... in the winter of 88 ... and escorted that side of the IL-76. which flew into the earthquake zone .... there was a check from the General Staff ... and they proved that it was the dispatchers who directed the plane onto the mountain .. they all died .... except for one. who fell asleep in the KAMAZ cabin on board .....
      if it’s not a shame to write this ... at least get acquainted first with the in (in) authority on this case ...... fool
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 June 2013 00: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: smersh70
        it’s not a shame to write this ... at least get acquainted first with the in (in) authority on this case ....

        He didn’t answer that!
        1. Artmark
          Artmark 9 June 2013 00: 51 New
          +4
          + To you for explaining to your fellow countryman
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 9 June 2013 01: 12 New
            -5
            Quote: ArtMark
            + To you for explaining to your fellow countryman

            I wrote the answer to Good. although what kind of Good he is ........ evil. like .. said the hero (c) ilma ... fellow
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 June 2013 20: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: smersh70
              I wrote the answer

              Clear!!
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 June 2013 20: 43 New
            -4
            Quote: ArtMark
            + To you for

            You put your plus to hell !!
            I do not need him and will never be from you!
            1. Artmark
              Artmark 13 June 2013 01: 25 New
              0
              Do not worry, I know where to stick
  • vostok1982
    vostok1982 8 June 2013 22: 38 New
    +7
    If in a hypothetical conflict with Turkey, Russia will not claim to capture the straits, then no one will die for the Turks. Erdogan will sign somewhere in Zurich the Ogly-Berdy agreement on granting independence to Kurdistan and the reparations of Armenia following the war and for the 1915 genocide. Yes, I forgot - Turkey will be expelled from NATO for non-compliance with democratic standards and territorial dispute with Cyprus. Or they will merge it under any other pretext - the West can do this.
    1. General
      General 8 June 2013 23: 46 New
      0
      Turkey expelled from NATO for non-compliance with democratic standards and territorial dispute with Cyprus


      And who are they waiting for? This conflict has existed since 1961 and no one has kicked out or expelled anyone, and there will be no war with Turkey and the Russian Federation, and if you take what comes then no one in the world will allow you to get straits, you will remember this for life, it’s beneficial for everyone to have straits belonged to Turkey since it does not take any kono nichrome)
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 9 June 2013 00: 10 New
      -5
      Quote: vostok1982
      Turkey expelled from NATO for non-compliance with democratic standards and territorial dispute with Cyprus. Or they will merge it under any other pretext - the West can do this.


      You forgot that Turkey is the second largest army in NATO!
    3. Arminian power
      Arminian power 23 September 2013 16: 47 New
      0
      hi
      Quote: vostok1982
      If in a hypothetical conflict with Turkey, Russia will not claim to capture the straits, then no one will die for the Turks. Erdogan will sign somewhere in Zurich the Ogly-Berdy agreement on granting independence to Kurdistan and the reparations of Armenia following the war and for the 1915 genocide. Yes, I forgot - Turkey will be expelled from NATO for non-compliance with democratic standards and territorial dispute with Cyprus. Or they will merge it under any other pretext - the West can do it
  • Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 8 June 2013 22: 44 New
    +6
    suppose Azerbaijan and Armenia begin to fight over Karabakh. if Azerbaijanis exclusively peal the territory of Karabakh, which de jure is their own, the intervention of the Russian army will look at least strange. Russia gets involved by analogy with actions in South Ossetia and Abkhazia? the Russian forces in Armenia are not enough for this. make an invasion across the Russian-Azerbaijani border? Well, with such a madhouse, Turkish intervention is inevitable. under no circumstances will it come to a nuclear war, as this is the beginning of a global war, which Armenia, Azerbaijan and all Armenians and Azerbaijanis do not stand together. however, a direct nuclear-free confrontation with Turkey may end in failure, or it will be necessary to transfer to the south all any combat-ready units from everywhere (which is very long, very expensive and I do not know if it is possible).
    In general, it seems to me that in the event of a new Karabakh conflict, only the Armenians and Azerbaijanis will fight, and the Russians and Turks will not go beyond the supply of weapons and ammunition.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 8 June 2013 23: 29 New
    +1
    <<<Так что решение Москвы модернизировать военную базу в Гюмри системами «Искандер-М», судя по всему, стало важной отправной точкой целого комплекса мер по укреплению военно-стратегического присутствия нашей страны во всем закавказском и, в более широком плане, Большом Ближневосточном регионе, который буквально на наших глазах стараются перекроить международные «демократизаторы».Так бы всегда России отвечать на бросаемые ей судьбой военно-геополитические вызовы!>>>
    Турецкому Ослан-Паше надо было хорошенько подумать прежде чем бежать впереди американского паровоза любезно предлагая свою территорию для американской ПРО, направленной против России. Он и его заокеанский Пахан-геймократизатор рано радовались возомнив себя охотниками. Теперь им предстоит играть роль дичи, что заставит их ( и не только их, а и многих других распустившихся руссофобов ) С-300 раз подумать, прежде чем тявкать на "русского медведя", которого они поспешили списать как старого и немощного, неспособного постоять не только за союзников но и за себя! Плюс к этому сирийская проблема, куда Ослан по своей инициативе влез, а теперь, похоже, не знает как вылезти! Вообщем надо думать своей головой и не быть Осланом!
    1. valerii41
      valerii41 9 June 2013 21: 08 New
      -3
      Airplanes take off with a candle from the base in Gyumri an ordinary slingshot is enough to bring down a plane
      1. tupolev-95
        tupolev-95 9 June 2013 22: 22 New
        +4
        The Russian air base is not in Gyumri. Do not know, do not scribble.
      2. Arminian power
        Arminian power 23 September 2013 16: 49 New
        0
        wassat
        Quote: valerii41
        Airplanes take off from the base in Gyumri
  • General
    General 8 June 2013 23: 43 New
    -15
    We’ll find a way out, we have faithful allies, Turkey, Israel, Pakistan who supply and will supply, the Jewish lobby already cooperates with the Azerbaijani dispute in the United States and France (I don’t know in other countries), placing the missile systems Russia makes the first line for itself bad, in the person of Turkey and Azerbaijan, she finds the enemy.
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    2. sscha
      sscha 9 June 2013 00: 17 New
      +3
      And I, in response, will oppress your lands in Ebur hi ge ..
      Do you think they will like it ?!
    3. sscha
      sscha 9 June 2013 00: 22 New
      +2
      Turkey is two hundred years an enemy of Russia, but when I’m trampling your lands from the Urals, and they won’t send you money anymore - and then ?! Will you stay alive? hi
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 9 June 2013 01: 06 New
        -8
        [quote = sscha] Turkey is two hundred years an enemy of Russia, but when I’m trampling your lands from the Urals, and they will not send you money anymore - and then ?! Will you stay alive? [/ quot
        you are my dear !!!! and you do not confuse your pocket with the state one. It seems so said Comrade Saakhov laughing Azerbaijan is not Armenia for you ... 60billion dollars in foreign exchange reserves. 1 euro-1 manat ... the fastest growing economy of the CIS ..... and the tezemly citizens of Russia already pay taxes with you
        and now Armenia is the lowest standard of living in the CIS ... from 5 million people there are only 2 million left ... lives only on the benefits of the diaspora .. etc, etc .....
    4. sscha
      sscha 9 June 2013 00: 23 New
      +2
      What are you rocking?
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    7. sscha
      sscha 9 June 2013 02: 10 New
      0
      Once again, in Russian I explain to you that I work in the media ...
      Загандобить твоих "земель"?!!
      And then I poke my finger with your finger, who is to blame, in your IP ... hi
  • Artmark
    Artmark 9 June 2013 00: 26 New
    11
    In general, I think that these missiles are not against Azerbaijan! it’s just that Russia shows the whole world that there’s no need to go there! hi
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 01: 08 New
      0
      Quote: ArtMark
      In general, I think that these missiles are not against Azerbaijan! it’s just that Russia shows the whole world that there’s no need to go there! hi

      nice ARTMARK !!!!!! finally change your soy views !!!!! good
      1. Artmark
        Artmark 9 June 2013 01: 26 New
        +4
        And what did I once say that it is against Azerbaijan?
  • smersh70
    smersh70 9 June 2013 00: 32 New
    -5
    Quote: Fidain
    На халяву в что со всем сума сошли,как думаеш умник,когда Америка или нато или вы Турция захочет ударять по России и первую очеред каво бомбить будут? Москву или Кронштадт? Нет <дорогой> будут бомбить Искандеры и Тополи, а потом уже Москву и генштаб!!!


    crazy chtoli came down. so that the Turks bombed Russia .... how much a person can hate this country. to write this ..... fellow
  • KononAV
    KononAV 9 June 2013 00: 53 New
    +1
    Everything is as it should be.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 9 June 2013 01: 01 New
    +5
    Quote from the article:
    Today, all Azerbaijani news agencies doomedly circulate the news that Armenia has received formidable and highly effective modern tactical weapons already as a fait accompli.
    О каком "Армянском Супер-оружии" речь?! Комплексы находятся под юрисдикцией РФ и будут применятся согласно её законодательству и по её усмотрению...
    Quote ArtMark:
    In general, I think that these missiles are not against Azerbaijan! it’s just that Russia shows the whole world that there’s no need to go there!

    I fully agree, and in addition, the strengthening of the military presence and military-technical potential of Russia in the Caucasus, the stabilizing factor in the situation in the region ...
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    1. Artmark
      Artmark 9 June 2013 01: 35 New
      +1
      And for Russia, presence is very important! I mean the military
  • Corsair
    Corsair 9 June 2013 01: 27 New
    +7
    From the comments of visitors to the page, representing apparently immigrants from Armenia and Azerbaijan, it follows that the presence of Russia is LIVING in the region so that, if necessary, it is possible to separate the presumptuous, out of measure and out of place ardent brawlers.
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  • Corsair
    Corsair 9 June 2013 03: 10 New
    0
    I think the Iskanders are there against Azeris

    Azerbaijanis got ..., ..

    LET YOUR MOTHER CURSE DAY WHEN YOU STARTED ...

    First you need to remove azer from the markets

    Это всё цитаты с одной лиш страницы сайта...Почему не работает "фильтр комментариев"?
    I already had a dispute with administrators and moderators about the bias and one-sidedness of evaluating individual comments, then I was accused of lying because of a lack of facts ...
    If the expression "азербайджанец" and OTHER listed here are NOT unacceptable and violations of the rules of the site, then correct me.
    Sincerely, Corsair.
    P/S:Чудеса-набранное и выделеное кавычками в данном комменте выражение AZER(набрал латиницей из-за опасений повторения "ЧУДА")магически преобразовалось в политкорректное Азербайджанец .Почему-же фильтр не работает адекватно по отношению и других посетителей сайта ???
    1. UFO
      UFO 9 June 2013 05: 35 New
      -6
      Yes, you go, politically correct and tolerant, and take the liberals with the juvenile ones with you! yes
    2. sscha
      sscha 28 June 2013 17: 55 New
      0
      Prostitutes though used, but never loved !!! hi
  • krasin
    krasin 9 June 2013 07: 08 New
    +6
    I read the forum and wondered where such anger came from. Russia is to blame for them; they are ready to devour their neighbors without salt.
    If it weren’t for Russia nearby, you would have cut each other. Here would be happiness where it was!
    You should be grateful that your families are still alive and delighting you, Russia only keeps from your wild confrontation that you did not cling to each other's throats. You can’t add up your prices! Instead of living humanly. By God it’s disgusting even they consider themselves people !!!!
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 9 June 2013 07: 16 New
      -4
      Quote: krasin
      Russia only keeps from your wild confrontation that you did not cling to each other's throats

      War cannot be prevented by preparing for it (c) Albert Einstein
  • gabatikuk
    gabatikuk 9 June 2013 08: 58 New
    +5
    Quote: smersh70
    We will help you not to die of starvation --- Azerbaijan can supply gas to Armenia. This was announced in an exclusive interview with ANS TV by the President of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan Rovnag Abdullayev. According to him, Azerbaijan is a humane country and recognizes its role as a regional leader. If Armenia turns to us for help in the gas issue, we will undoubtedly help, said Rovnag Abdullayev. Recall that Azerbaijan sells gas to Georgia at a price of $ 230 per thousand cubic meters. Currently, Armenia buys gas from Russia at a price of $ 315 per thousand cubic meters.






    Armenia doesn’t need your gas, we can burn both Russian and Iranian gas, and for our money. We don’t need someone else’s enemy enemy. Now about the image of the enemy: you got to the point that the anger and hatred you have accumulated will harm you first and foremost, through 3-4 years, we will all witness this. The whole world knows how merciful you are: Sumgait, Baku, ......
    Your Allah (that is, God) will thank you. Do not hesitate. Is not a lie a sin? Is it not a sin to kill the innocent?
    Смотрте люди умными стали ,начинают сжигат розни между Армении и России .Так поймите Армения пережила когда было 1000 раз труднее, переживет и сей раз.Я не знал что азарбайданские наши коллеги такие Великие сказочники так что Андерсен позавидовал бы вам.Продолжайте "ТВОРИТЬ"творческих успехов вам.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 12: 26 New
      -8
      [quote = gabatikuk] Now about the image of the enemy: you got to such an extent that the anger and hatred you have accumulated will harm you first and foremost, after 3-4 years we will all witness this. The whole world knows how merciful you are: Sumgait, Baku, ...... [/
      All the same, I love Russian proverbs --- whose cow would mumble ... fellow First you look at your tent. Neher had to get into a fight and demand land, but what did you think, Azerbaijan would just give you land ... when they shouted Miatsum in the center of Yerevan. You didn’t think that so many Armenians live in Azerbaijan .. ...
      that they automatically become hostages .....
      and if you are so quiet and sweet, remember about Khojaly. Malibeyli, Askiparu ...... and enough ... what to take from you ....... go, bring the check to GAZ .... laughing the time has come to pay ...... fellow
      1. gabatikuk
        gabatikuk 9 June 2013 21: 14 New
        +3
        Dear first, you are not you, and secondly, you have already indirectly recognized that the pogroms in Baku and Sumgait are actually a fact. We didn’t take someone else’s: Karabakh was never part of independent Azerbaijan. And if you eat gas and oil, then you Are you happy and happy? Do you continue to glorify your Sultan and compose new tales? Suddenly naive people will believe, because tales are not free.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 June 2013 21: 39 New
          -4
          Quote: gabatikuk
          .We didn’t take someone else’s: Karabakh was never part of independent Azerbaijan.

          Again, a sick imagination played?))))))))))))))
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 9 June 2013 22: 36 New
          -6
          Quote: gabatikuk
          Karabakh has never been part of independent Azerbaijan. And if


          and what are you)) then shout. that Stalin illegally gave Karabakh to Azerbaijan in 1923 ... then in 1948 they raised the question of accession .... then they raised the question in 1988 ....)))) to Malenkov’s letter ....
          http://karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/hisdoc/hd016.htm
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 June 2013 09: 14 New
    +5
    Armenia is our historical ally! One of the few former who did not betray us ..
    1. stranik72
      stranik72 9 June 2013 09: 53 New
      0
      И с какой таки мысли вы так "ярко" подошли к этому определению. Армения единственная страна на территории бывшего СССР, которая юридически верно подошла к процедуре выхода из её состава, это говорит об обдуманости и осознаности своих действий. И ещё в период 08.08.08, я был в Сочи так вот там армяне разезжали на автомобилях с Краснодарскими номерами и флажками на передней панели армении и грузии. Поэтому и орден саакашвили был вручён "чаяния армянского народа". Азербайджанцы так свои симпатии не выражали.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 10 June 2013 07: 39 New
        -2
        Armenia took a loan from Russia and awarded Saakashvili with the Order of Honor

        На этой неделе стало известно, что не только Киргизия умеет и кредит у России взять и, в то же время, сохранить на своей территории американскую военную авиабазу "Манас", получив за это от США еще $1 млрд.

        Last Wednesday, June 24, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who was in Yerevan on an official visit, was awarded the Armenian Order of Honor.
        http://nsk.sibnovosti.ru/society/78743-armeniya-vzyala-kredit-u-rossii-i-nagradi
        la-saakashvili-ordenom-chesti
  • Opera
    Opera 9 June 2013 10: 49 New
    10
    What a deep nightmare! What are you talking about here ?! Those in the tank have such a NATO bloc! Friendly Russia can not be called! Well, just not like that! There are countries sympathizing with this bloc with all the ensuing consequences! In this regard, Russia is taking certain steps and what ?!
    What a commotion is this ?! Want to explain to us that our allies are not allies to us ?! Who?! You?!?!
    Наши союзники - наше дело. Своих вы тоже назвали - Турция, Пакистан, Израиль ... Ну и славно. Вот давайте и будем каждый о себе заботиться - в Армении российская база, самолеты, теперь ракеты далее... А, теперь нам Турция из-за этого враг говорите и Азербайджан - ну "страшная новость"!Вы еще расскажите, что Америка не довольна! В шоке прям все! Рассказываете какая Азербайджан богатая и прекрасная страна... Да ничего против не имею, вот только не пойму, что при этом миллионы ваших соотечественников делают в России? Наверное они не такие умные, как вы - так объясните им пусть возвращаются и внесут свой вклад в процветание Азербайджана, а у нас глядишь и цены на рынках упадут - вот и будет хороший повод для дружбы!
    Про Чечню здесь кто то пишет при чем под российским флагом приводит фотографии ЖИВЫХ ЕЩЕ ТРУПОВ и говорит - "... вы с этими разберитесь сначала..!" Ключевое слово здесь ВЫ! Ну мы и разбираемся и разбиремся и много еще с кем разберемся, а вот вы под этим флагом это нонсенс! С этим тоже надо что то делать!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 12: 30 New
      -6
      Quote: Oper
      You tell me which Azerbaijan is a rich and beautiful country ... Yes, I have nothing against it, I just don’t understand what millions of your compatriots are doing in Russia? Probably they are not as smart as you - so explain to them let them come back and contribute to the prosperity of Azerbaijan, but you see and prices in the markets will fall - that will be a good reason for friendship!

      fellow globalization is my friend ............... and what so many Russians do in Germany, in the USA ..... when I got to Germany. I thought that I got to Russia .. .... smile
  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 9 June 2013 11: 26 New
    +6
    Glory to Russia soldier. Бойся супостат наших комплексов "Искандер" angry
  • tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 9 June 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    And how reliable is the news about the Iskanders?
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 June 2013 12: 37 New
    +2
    Remember Cuba ... !! Our missiles can appear anywhere in the world unexpectedly and at the right time ..
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 9 June 2013 13: 31 New
    -4
    xetai9977 (2)
    Михаил, вы в курсе того ,как относятся в армении к России? вот лишь некоторые эпитеты"больная Россия""колосс на глинянных ногах""алкоголики""армения без России проживет,а Россия без армении нет". и т.д. хотите ссылочку?могу дат

    Не сомневаюсь, что так это и есть! Все эти "друзья" с камнем за пазухой. А если , они такие умные, трезвенники и им всем в своих государствах так хорошо, что же после развала СССР их ещё больше стало в России? И денежки текут не из азиатских и кавказских регионов в Россию, а как-то наоборот. Да и "гАстеров-Россиян" в эти странах как-то не наблюдается. Посмотрела бы я на этих САМОСТИЙНЫХ, если бы всех их "тружеников" депортировали из России и закрыли границы на замок...
    But about
    Quote: Gooch
    ... from Baku, to Russia to some sort of ust-poposk for any money will not go, even if there will be a fiercely hellish war in Azerbaijan

    Они и без войны расползлись по России и не только, в Казахстане их то же полно. Ладно, которые РАБОТАЮТ на рынках, но ведь их "полосатых" полно бродит и попрошайничает, с кучей грязных детей, ходят по подъездам, звонят в квартиры. Так что не надо...
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 9 June 2013 13: 52 New
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      Quote: ia-ai00
      Они и без войны расползлись по России и не только, в Казахстане их то же полно. Ладно, которые РАБОТАЮТ на рынках, но ведь их "полосатых" полно бродит и попрошайничает, с кучей грязных детей, ходят по подъездам, звонят в квартиры. Так что не надо...


      FRIEND!!!!! civil aviation right food (Mimino) ---- you seem to have mixed Gypsies with Caucasians ..... laughing
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 9 June 2013 15: 21 New
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        I mean Azerbaijanis, they go up the porches, they personally rang my door dozens of times, but they don’t want bread, food and clothes, they want MONEY!
        1. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 9 June 2013 15: 45 New
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          POOR AZERBAIJAN!
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 9 June 2013 15: 36 New
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        What, really pierces the eyes? - minus one! I’m specially taking a picture and posting it on the site so that some people shut up!
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        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 9 June 2013 16: 01 New
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          Did you check their passport?
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 9 June 2013 13: 45 New
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    200 Turkish planes will not take off, although the number of airfields is limited and all of them are known. Everyone in the zone of destruction of tactical weapons and not necessarily Iskanders. And not the fact that modern NATO will rush to defend Turkey.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 9 June 2013 15: 00 New
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      Russia neutralizes US missile defense in Turkey

      After that, you think NATO will not intervene, what a naive way of life is!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 June 2013 14: 08 New
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    S-300 Iskander, etc. This is the external background .. Intelligence works clearly !!! They do not boast .. (not allowed) .. Well done guys .. !!!
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 9 June 2013 16: 29 New
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    Quote: xetai9977
    Михаил, вы в курсе того ,как относятся в армении к России? вот лишь некоторые эпитеты"больная Россия""колосс на глинянных ногах""алкоголики""армения без России проживет,а Россия без армении нет". и т.д. хотите ссылочку?могу дать

    Give a link, I don’t believe in it, and whoever wrote this still needs to find out ..
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 9 June 2013 16: 37 New
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    If Turkey acts as an aggressor, they will think for a long time about whether it is worth it. No one is talking about the first strike on Turkey. By and large, only the USA is combat-ready. For example, Libya showed this fully. And over time, the situation will not be better.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 9 June 2013 17: 37 New
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      When such global energy projects between Russia and Turkey no one dare to attack each other!