Poland has deployed South Korean FA-50 fighter jets to protect its border from the "Russian threat."

Poland has deployed South Korean FA-50GF fighters to combat duty. Since October 1, the light combat aircraft have been helping defend the country's airspace from an alleged "Russian threat." Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysh described this as another reinforcement of the eastern border.

According to the minister, the aircraft were purchased without armament. The necessary funding was later secured, and the aircraft were able to begin their missions. Ireneusz Nowak, Commander of the Polish Armed Forces Operational Command, previously explained that the FA-50GFs would be used primarily against potential air threats.

The Polish Air Force currently has 12 such aircraft. They are based in Mińsk-Mazowiecki at the 23rd Tactical Air Base. aviationThis is the first batch of 48 FA-50 family aircraft ordered from South Korea in 2022. The first aircraft arrived in Poland in 2023.

The remaining 36 aircraft will be manufactured in the FA-50PL version to meet Polish military requirements. According to the schedule cited by the Polish publication, deliveries will begin in mid-2027 and be completed in early 2029. This modification will feature an upgraded radar and avionics, expanded weapons capabilities, and a longer range.

The FA-50 is manufactured by Korea Aerospace Industries. The two-seat aircraft was developed based on the T-50 trainer. According to the manufacturer, it can reach speeds of up to Mach 1,5, is equipped with a 20mm cannon, and can use missiles AIM-9 and guided bombs. The specific armament of the aircraft deployed to Poland has not yet been disclosed.

Warsaw simultaneously plans to increase its army to 500 personnel, including 200 reservists. Moscow stated that it is taking into account the large-scale rearmament of European countries when ensuring its own security.

Comments

[Voenoboz]

Why are they preparing like this? The Germans are preparing this for you. They want revenge.

[Mapping]

It looks like there really will be a war in 2030.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

Very correct observation VOENOBOZ
Poles fear Germans more than anyone else in the world because they know whose fat they ate and that the Germans will never forget them.
Wars between them are still ahead, and Poland doesn't have the guts to bully Russia.
All this Sikorsky mold knows that we will strike tactically without hesitation

[1944-1989]

German and Polish workers have no reason to quarrel with each other; the ruling class is a different matter, although it is unlikely that those bastards will take any action at this point.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

All this is leftist nonsense from times long past.

Workers are part of the nation

[1944-1989]

There are things that never change: the fundamental mechanisms of capitalism have remained unchanged for centuries, so the Marxist explanation remains 100% relevant – capitalism simply goes through different stages of development.

I used to think that "left" was a modern term, but it turns out that it has been used for a long time (mainly by communists), and the far right has only recently adopted it.

Ultimately, only what people themselves recognize as relevant is considered relevant.

[Neutral Neutral]

A German worker is more connected to his employer than to a similar worker from another country, and if anything happens, the local media (controlled by who knows who) will vividly explain what kind of savages live in that distant land. And this point of view has been proven by practice, unlike the failed theories of people buried in that damned Britain (a strange coincidence, in my opinion).

[1944-1989]

What do you mean "connected"? What connects them—do they play golf together or dine at expensive restaurants?

[1944-1989]

Rather, we're talking about a situation involving forced labor in a company run by a single, authoritarian individual; I see no connection here—only contradictions. Nevertheless, workers around the world share common interests, which are reflected, for example, in protests. And while these often take place on a national scale—since each country is ruled by its own bourgeoisie—joint protests also occur (such as the protests against the genocide in Gaza), and these will become more frequent. You're not neutral—your bias is obvious.

[1944-1989]

Can nation-states coexist peacefully? I believe socialism has proven this is possible—or at least demonstrated that it is feasible to a much greater extent than under capitalism. After all, developed capitalism inevitably leads to imperialism (as was the case with Great Britain in the past and with the United States today), and the driving force behind such plunder is always the ruling capitalist class. Of course, socialist countries have also resorted to military action, but their goal was not plunder but the spread of revolution. Wars between socialist countries have never been wars of annihilation and have been short-lived; thus, workers' states truly prevent armed conflicts with massive human losses. For me, this question is clear—and it is becoming increasingly relevant in the modern world.

[avdkrd]

Quote: 1944-1989

German and Polish workers have no reason to quarrel with each other; the ruling class is a different matter, although it is unlikely that those bastards will take any action at this point.

What kind of terminology is this? What workers? There's revanchism and an inferiority complex of an entire nation. Talk of class brotherhood and proletarians of all countries uniting is a complete misunderstanding of social processes. The Polish worker doesn't care that a German (or Russian, or Ukrainian) worker is also a worker; he simply hates (or strongly dislikes) Germans, Russians, and Ukrainians. It's the same with us—I make no distinction between a worker and a bourgeois of Ukrainian nationality. Those we fight, with very rare exceptions, pathologically hate us. The difference between those forcibly captured by the TCC and those who do so out of their own free will is very small. Those captured by the TCC are simply smarter, but hatred was systematically instilled into their heads. Two generations there hate both Russians and Poles. The Poles themselves aren't very far removed from their sincere neighbors who shout "outskirts above all." In fact, the Poles are even bigger Nazis; the only ones worse than the Poles are the Jews, for whom Nazism is enshrined in religious doctrine. Historical memory is such a thing that, while the root causes of interethnic conflicts remain, mutual hatred doesn't disappear during times of warming—it's simply masked.

[1944-1989]

Why are you lumping everyone together? Yes, many certainly think the same way as you, but you shouldn't speak for everyone; fortunately, fewer and fewer people believe that you should "kill a colleague just because he's of a different nationality." The cognitive method known as dialectical materialism takes no account of priests or other shamans; it takes nothing on faith, but relies on material reality. And from a material standpoint, the interests of the capitalist classes in different countries contradict each other—such is an invariable feature of capitalism. The working classes of different countries are required to fight for the interests of the capitalists, although this doesn't at all correspond to their own aspirations. What difference does it make who exploits the Ukrainian worker—a Russian capitalist or a Ukrainian one? The capitalist is driven solely by base self-interest, while the worker is expected to believe the fairy tales told from the pulpit and by politicians? Don't spread such ignorant views! Do you know where this hatred comes from—who's fueling it and striving to sustain it? Media owners, of course—and don't tell me anyone can speak out on social media, because those platforms also have owners: capitalists like Musk, who encourage racist and xenophobic content.

[Lako]

Back in the 80s, during anti-Soviet unrest, Soviet soldiers stationed in Poland were allowed to leave their units in uniform only if they were accompanied by a senior officer. There were all sorts of incidents, from insulting shouts to spitting. Command forbade giving in to any provocations. A rumor spread in Szczecin that German units from East Germany would be transferred. The Poles immediately pressed their ears and fell silent. They were afraid, no less.

[Sokolov_Vladimir]

My father told me the Chinese threw stones at them. He was indignant, saying it was because their political officer had forbidden them from taking Mao Zedong badges from the Chinese.

[1944-1989]

This is a product of the system; socialist society is transitional, preserving the characteristics of the previous system. And what was the situation in Poland in the 1980s? Revolution must continue, otherwise it fades; in that country, the revolutionary fervor had faded, and the restoration of capitalism was in full swing.
But did the Hungarian workers revolt out of hatred for the Russians? Rather, it was driven by hatred for the local party bureaucracy, which was worsening rather than improving working conditions—in other words, the revolt was driven by actions typical of capitalists. This is a clear example of how all wage workers form a group with common interests that transcend national borders; their aspirations are similar in any country. The fact that people succumb to hatred is a consequence of state policy, and every state has its own character. Israel is a capitalist state, and hatred of Palestinians is more widespread there than anywhere else—in short, it bred bloodthirsty Nazis.

[1944-1989]

Is hatred between Ukrainians and Russians the cause of the war in Ukraine? The main reason is the West's imperialist interference in Ukrainian affairs; this process has been ongoing for a long time, beginning even before the events of the Maidan.

Indeed, the USSR failed to eradicate Banderaism or traditional Polish hostility toward Russians (and Russian hostility toward Poles is usually a reactive reaction, not a feeling deliberately cultivated by the elites, as is the case in Poland). In the years leading up to the Smolensk disaster, mutual perceptions of the peoples were perhaps quite positive, but some cunning psychopath decided to revive Russophobia, exploiting a tragedy in which people who played no significant role (except for the flight crew) died. Subsequently, a group seeking conflict with Russia held power for eight years. The public reaction was not anti-Russian in nature; rather, it was the reaction of those manipulated by politicians that was sharply anti-Russian.

[Rash]

A worthy aircraft. The best of the new ones.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Rash

A worthy aircraft. The best of the new ones.

Probably so. But the PRICE!!!

Poland: 12 FA-50GF (Block 10) — contract worth approximately $700 million (~$58 million per aircraft, but includes training and technical support); another 36 FA-50PL (Block 20) ​​— $2,3 billion, or ~$64 million per unit.

Paying 64 million for a "Korean" with not particularly great performance characteristics, when the latest Penguin costs 68 million! Is it reasonable? The F-35A.2 is already a proven and battle-tested workhorse. And the Korean? A pig in a poke?

The FA-50 is often called a "light fighter," but formally it is a combat training aircraft. In terms of weapons capabilities, it is noticeably more modest than the F-16, although the producers estimate it as capable of being implemented "about 80% of the F-16's capabilities ... ".

Moreover, the range of weapons, range and combat load are average for aircraft of the 4th generation - 4/+/

[Lako]

Doesn't Russia have enough Yak-130s and Su-25s in its arsenal? Can't they be used to repel Ukrainian drone attacks?

[Dmitry Smirnov_2]

This ash-heap needs to be shot down.

[KCA]

Tupolev said that an airplane should be beautiful, but this one is probably some kind of freak and flies like one.

[Boa kaa]

A fool grows rich in his thoughts. He warms his dreams in the sun... (c)

The remaining 36 aircraft will be manufactured as the FA-50PL version, tailored to Polish military requirements. This modification will feature an upgraded radar and avionics, expanded weapons capabilities, and a longer range.

And all this without changing the internal volume of the glider??? I just want to say: -- "Hopes youngsters feed..." and -- "Wait for the weather by the sea..."
For some reason, the Poles seem to forget that nothing is free (by the way: the price for "free" cheese in a mousetrap is your life!) and will have to pay for all innovations with their own hard-earned "piñonzas," including R&D. And they can no longer hope for the same price when receiving the FA-50PL. And increasing the army to 500 will also cost a pretty penny. The Ministry of Defense ("a loose translation of this politician's surname") clearly hasn't considered this. Or do these gentlemen think the EU will continue to support "Mrs. Polska"? It's not a given that the EU won't soon collapse under the weight of its socioeconomic burden. And judging by the situation in Italy, France, and Germany, a trend toward that is already evident.

[pudelartemon]

Minister of Defense Vladislav Kosinyak-Kamysh

Where did the surname come from?
Is it really because of the way of life of the common single-celled amoeba that he rolled a joint and started shouting in a rattling falsetto "The reeds rustled" and something about the Russian threat... Funny