An elder in the garden, a summit in the Urals, or Something about the Russia-EU summit

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The next duty Russia-EU summit ended a few days ago. This time Yekaterinburg was chosen as the venue for it, namely, the venue - this, it seems, very little that similar summits of recent years distinguish from each other. You can not even be a special specialist in the field of geopolitics to predict what issues are raised at such a summit. The fact is that these issues manifest themselves year after year. To paraphrase one well-known expression in relation to the role of the summit, we can say something like this: wake me up through the end of fifteen years, and I will say that the Russia-EU summit discusses the topics of gay, energy and the abolition of the visa regime ...



So, in Yekaterinburg, within the framework of the 31-th Russia-EU summit, in which the main actors besides Russian President Vladimir Putin were Mr. Van Rompuy (head of the European Council) and Mr. Barroso (head of the European Commission), the questions were not new. Rompuy and Barroso brought with them to the Urals a very large delegation, among whose members our old acquaintances were lighted up. Old acquaintances here include the European "favorite" of our readers, Baroness Catherine Ashton, who holds the high post of EU High Representative for Security and Foreign Policy. The extent to which the readers of the Military Review have become attached to it can be understood by rereading the materials in which the name of the baroness is mentioned. In terms of "joy" from the appearance of her name on the pages of our publication, Mrs. Ashton can be compared only to Hillary Clinton, but she already counts the state secretary’s pension, and the baroness is still on horseback ...

What topics were in the circle most actively discussed during the summit? Well, as mentioned above, such topics included the topic of abolishing the visa regime between the Russian Federation and the European Union. It would seem that the topic is serious and promising big final preferences for both Russia and the European Union: from increasing the flow of tourists in both directions to increasing trade between the countries. A serious topic is a serious discussion at the summit. True, the subtext of this discussion is approximately as follows: conversations talk, and the European Union is ready to go on all heartburns with one sole purpose - to delay the signing of such an important document for an indefinite period. For thousands of pseudo-Islamic radicals and extremists of other stripes, the path to an old Europe is open, but for some reason, the possibility of free visits to Europe by ordinary Russian citizens from Europeans is rejection. Oligarchs and emissaries of the Caucasian radicals - you are welcome, but for the rest of the Russians - you understand, fears ...

But, in fairness, I must say that there are countries in the EU that understand the full benefits of abolishing the visa regime with Russia, and if they were not in the EU itself, then the abolition of visas would have happened long ago (at least, the heads of these countries). We are talking about Germany and Poland. Most of the other EU countries openly pull rubber in this matter. Drawn in a historical perspective.

Judge for yourself.

September 2002 years. In Brussels, on the initiative of the Russian side, they decide to consider the possibility of abolishing the visa regime.

July 2003. EU representatives say that by the year 2008, the visa system between the European Union and Russia can be, if not completely eliminated, then many times simplified.

2006 year. Summit in Sochi. Members of the European delegation say that there are all prerequisites for abolishing the visa regime, and this cancellation may occur in the coming 5-6 years.

November 2009 year. Summit in Stockholm. The Chairman of the European Commission states that in order to overcome the economic crisis, it is necessary to find ways of rapprochement with Russia, and one of these ways is the possibility of canceling the visa regime between the Russian Federation and the EU.

2010 year. Nicolas Sarkozy (the then President of France) suggests that in 10-15 years, Russia and the EU will turn into a single economic space without creating visas.

2012 year. Representatives of the German business community urge Chancellor Angela Merkel to speed up the process of abolishing the visa regime with Russia. Merkel willingly nodded her head ...

June 2013. Yekaterinburg. Another discussion on the abolition of visas, which is buried in a new wall, quickly erected by European delegates. As a wall, the demand of Europeans for reducing the number of biometric service passports to 15 thousand units appeared. The Russian side was surprised by this nuance, which has turned from a purely technical to a basic and irresistible. At the same time, the representatives of the delegation themselves refused to comply with the Russian ordinary request for the provision of data on air passengers who fly from the EU to Russia or transit through the territory of the Russian Federation. Why data of European passengers cannot be presented to Moscow - the big question?

It is obvious that even if the Russian side fulfilled a new European condition and abandoned its own, then our European “friends” would find other ways to pull diplomatic rubber, as they say, by digging out dirt from under their nails. And after that we still say that Russia is a country of not frightened bureaucrats. Yes, our homebrew bureaucrats to the terry bureaucrats of the European bottling is still very far away.

In general, the topic of visas was voiced again and again its real productive discussion was pushed into the background. Indeed, if you cancel the visas now, then Van Rompuy and Barroso will have nothing to discuss at the next summit. And so - Temko in store. Temko is already pretty historical raid.

Although today there is another topic that moves from the summit to the summit, from President Putin’s trip to the trip, from one interview to another. The topic is “infringement” of the rights and freedoms of NGOs and the LGBT community in Russia.

One gets the impression that the former Europeans, once completely normal and civilized, somehow picked up a strange affliction. Ailment is a strong desire to translate the conversation about solving any economic and political problems into the plane of the problems of sexual minorities. Like, what's the technical default of Greece, what kind of extremists there are in Paris and London, what's the decline in real incomes, what kind of visas - the main thing is that gays should have everything “okay”. Gay people like God forgive the hopes and pillars of modern European civilization ...

Well, in fact - their gays are completely crazy! And if NPOs in Russia are added to this topic, it turns out to be a broken record, to listen to which there are no enough forces. Not enough of them, it seems, and Vladimir Putin, who was once again asked about the situation of sex minorities in Russia. The President of Russia this time could not cope with emotions, and here he can be understood.

Got me with these same-sex marriages! I went to Europe - they wave the flags there, I came here - again you are pestering me. I believe that our legislation is very liberal in this respect and there is no discrimination. Generally no! We have people of any preferences working, making a career, I believe that there are no problems. In fact, we should all be more tolerant and show less aggression. As for the draft law on restricting the adoption of Russian children by persons in same-sex families, I still do not have such a draft law. If this will be adopted by parliament, I will sign it.


And he will do right if he signs. In fact, hysteria about the gay community and the adoption of same-sex couples of children, to be honest, is not worth a penny. It seems that in Russia children are going to be adopted exclusively by LGBT people. Well, there is simply no one to adopt more orphans, besides a gay couple from somewhere in Kapotni or Altufyevo ... God knows what they are, and now they are replicating the same type and frankly teeth. Like, look at how we have besieged Putin. Well, just the same version of the Shukshin "cut off!" And only ...

“Cut!” Was also in a question from a Spanish journalist to Putin about the connection of Turkish protests with the “persecutions” of non-governmental organizations in Russia. And such a “Cut!”, That even the questioner herself, obviously, hardly understood what nonsense she asked. Putin, in his characteristic manner, answered this absurd question:

Well, you also compared! Apples and uncle in Kiev! What does the NPO have to do with it, do they really close them? Have you read the law at least? It says nothing about the closure of these organizations, but even about the application of sanctions against them! We are talking only about the disclosure of information. But nobody closes them. What does the Arab spring? These are completely different things.


Yes, of course, she did not read any law. Just a question about the law is a trend: everyone asks, and she wanted to, because gays and NGOs are valid questions for any universal democracy and megaliberalism striving for victory in every single country journalist.

Discussed at the summit and the Syrian problem. Well, again - as discussed ... The topic was touched upon, each expressed his vision of solutions, and remained in their positions. Europeans - to Putin about C-300, Putin - to Europeans about the Syrian opposition, which has a gastronomic tendency to eat the internal organs of dead soldiers ... The conversation, as you can see, was not productive.

And if we proceed to assessing the outcome of the summit, it turns out that there are no results at all. Unless our European guests rations eaten tight, they pinched jet fuel and with fasting faces set off as quickly as possible from the “wild” Russia to their patrimony, where the megademocracy joyfully met them with bare backs. And may Syria, visas, energy security, the problem of drug trafficking, extremism and the fall of the moral image of the Old World wait. The European Commissioners are not up to them now ...
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  1. +36
    6 June 2013 08: 31
    from Don. See these meetings with pid-mi. We are only wasting money.
    1. +59
      6 June 2013 09: 11
      Nooo) You cannot stop the summits. I myself am from Yekaterinburg. At least two roads were repaired. And at a pace that I have not seen for a long time. For 2 nights, a couple of kilometers laid. Summits to be.
      1. +10
        6 June 2013 10: 01
        Quote: Orel
        And at a pace that I have not seen for a long time. For 2 nights, a couple of kilometers laid. Summits to be.

        Only this road for the season and in the spring comes down with snow and ice.
        The main thing is that the city is cleaned up and washed, otherwise hello "muhocax" from the 90s and early 2000s.
        Visas, energy security, the problem of drug trafficking, extremism and the decline in the moral image of the Old World will wait
        It is hard to believe that precisely these topics were at the forefront.
      2. +5
        6 June 2013 10: 02
        Quote: Orel
        You cannot stop the summits. I myself am from Yekaterinburg. At least two roads were repaired. And at a pace that I have not seen for a long time. For 2 nights, they laid a couple of kilometers. Summits to be.
        Which streets? I myself am from Sverdlovsk.
        1. +4
          6 June 2013 11: 13
          Objaznaya around botany and moss
          1. +2
            6 June 2013 13: 20
            Quote: Orel
            Objaznaya around botany and moss

            shameful June 6th so obfuscate the word -
            BYPASS - ROAD (bypass)
            And judging by you, you don’t even understand what words you write, it’s a shame!
            it’s not a detour from yours, but an obyaz.nu and well
            1. +7
              6 June 2013 14: 16
              Come on you. Why so boil? When writing on the keyboard, anything can happen. Or do you perceive this as a personal insult?
            2. +1
              6 June 2013 21: 36
              Quote: afire
              And judging by you, you don’t even understand what words you write, it’s a shame!
              it’s not a detour from yours, but an obyaz.nu and well
              Riding there today, they didn’t do the street laughing If they did it, then I'm a ballerina.
      3. +9
        6 June 2013 10: 54
        I also wonder what roads were repaired? I'm from Ekaterinburg. Something did not see the repair, but there were problems with cellular communication in the city center and the requirement for residents of some houses not to go to the windows with binoculars, etc., not to open the windows - that was it. I work in the center, so it was almost impossible to talk on a cell phone.
        1. +3
          6 June 2013 11: 00
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          It’s also not interesting which roads were repaired? I'm from Ekaterinburg. Something did not see the repair, but there were problems with cellular communication in the city center and the requirement for residents of some houses not to go to the windows with binoculars, etc., not to open the windows - that was it. I work in the center, so it was almost impossible to talk on a cell phone.
          I myself work for Khokhryakova. The second platform on Tsvinga. I don’t know where the roads were made in the center, but my parents saw on 7 keys how they changed 2 km of tram tracks over the weekend, and they also picked up the road at the Tavatuiskaya-Rastochnaya intersection. Damn all the rapids on the gravel there have already peeled themselves.
          1. +5
            6 June 2013 11: 32
            Thanks. I will know where in our city until autumn it will be possible to normally drive "puzoters". smile
            1. +1
              6 June 2013 14: 02
              Quote: Stroibat stock
              Thanks. I will know where in our city until autumn it will be possible to normally drive "puzoters".

              You are my optimist. belay
              Anyone who loves some kind of pipe das leaks or a cable to change the need will arise and-and-and-and-and amba "as a quality" acvalt wink
        2. +1
          6 June 2013 14: 12
          Rosette at the weekend from Malyshev to Kuibyshev ... hi
      4. +9
        6 June 2013 12: 12
        Quote: Orel
        For 2 nights, they laid a couple of kilometers. Summits to be.



        Permanent President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Margaret Ashton, Baroness Ashton of Upholland. laughing
        1. +7
          6 June 2013 12: 17
          Quote: Karlsonn
          Permanent President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Margaret Ashton, Baroness Ashton of Upholland.
          Opera Theater. Glory to the god of these stuffed animals on our streets were not released. The Urals have strong nerves, but after that ...............
          1. +6
            6 June 2013 12: 24
            Quote: Mechanic
            Glory to the god of these stuffed animals on our streets were not released.


            Mechanic hi

            here one comrade said not in the eyebrow, but right in the eye!

        2. +8
          6 June 2013 12: 31
          I can not add!

          I look at faces with terrible fading
          Her smile even cures stuttering!

          The fact of degeneration on the face of an elite fool
          On the scary faces gay culture!
          1. +5
            6 June 2013 13: 06
            Quote: Arberes
            The fact of degeneration on the face of an elite fool
            On the scary faces the imprint of gay culture!
        3. Jin
          +2
          6 June 2013 13: 06
          Quote: Karlsonn
          Permanent President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Margaret Ashton, Baroness Ashton of Upholland


          laughing Kapets ... killed
          1. MG42
            +4
            6 June 2013 19: 20
            Quote: Jin
            Kapets ... killed

            It was only worth remembering me Herman Van Römpay on an adjacent branch 30 minutes earlier Carlson posted here laughing operative 12:12
        4. +5
          6 June 2013 15: 42
          If I didn’t know that these are high-ranking bureaucrats of the EU, I would have decided that this is a couple of patients with autism
        5. 0
          6 June 2013 19: 11
          Yeah! They say it is true that on the face it is in the soul. Do not dream of such a thing.
        6. +1
          6 June 2013 21: 21
          Are good! They perform in the circus, scare tigers.
        7. 0
          7 June 2013 04: 27
          Bugs: D
        8. 0
          7 June 2013 04: 56
          Marazmatik and clowness, honestly!
        9. vitek1233
          +1
          7 June 2013 07: 32
          EU face Horror belay
      5. +1
        6 June 2013 18: 07
        Yeah, and I saw this pace. By the way, they put it in a good way, and that's a plus! PSIn many yards, they laid asphalt, and there the president (even with a hangover, I wouldn’t have stopped), the asphalt is lying! ALL POLAND POLYMERS! laughing am
      6. 0
        6 June 2013 21: 16
        Quote: Orel
        You cannot stop the summits. I myself am from Yekaterinburg. At least two roads were repaired. And at a pace that I have not seen for a long time. For 2 nights, a couple of kilometers laid.

        That's just the benefits of them.
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    3. +8
      6 June 2013 15: 26
      I think Putin needs to be given an addition to the salary for harm for such meetings, and at the end of the meeting, the hall should be treated with incense.
      1. +1
        6 June 2013 16: 37
        And if we move on to assessing the results of the summit, it turns out that there are no results at all.
        And it will not, because:
        The EU is an international entity combining the attributes of an international organization (interstate) and a state (supranationalism), but formally it is neither one nor the other. In certain areas, decisions are made by independent supranational institutions, while in others they are implemented through negotiations between member states.
        and all these summits, the usual party, since the Euro Council can not give birth to anything, a gay couple in general, well, if only for their mountain ... make some noise.
    4. -4
      6 June 2013 16: 45
      As for the bill on limiting the adoption of Russian children by persons in same-sex families, I do not have such a bill so far. If such is adopted by Parliament, I will sign it.

      But he will sign it. These deputies of fag will create the law, and the president will wave. And then gay marriage will be legalized so as not to offend (discrimination) our fagot.
      I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY OF FREAKES !!!!
      1. +4
        6 June 2013 18: 31
        krasin
        Please explain why you do not like that Pu will sign a law prohibiting fagots to adopt children? What's so bad? And why did you decide that this will help homosexuals? Or didn’t you understand your own quote?
        1. 0
          6 June 2013 19: 31
          Quote: smile
          krasin
          Please explain why you do not like that Pu will sign a law prohibiting fagots to adopt children? What's so bad? And why did you decide that this will help homosexuals? Or didn’t you understand your own quote?

          And why is Russia generally selling orphans? Perhaps the trade in small defenseless and unrequited slaves brings someone a big gesheft?
          I don’t remember that in the USSR such a crime took place at all, moreover, it was put “on stream”, with the full “approval” of the Kremlin.
          1. +4
            7 June 2013 04: 33
            Well, it was you who waved "Russia trades in orphans" ... Trades, but not Russia, but rare moral ur * odes. There are checks for every child after Dima Yakovlev and others such that mom does not grieve. So don't panic. Vova will sign the law and the kids will not go to the homosexuals. Although, if I had my way, it would generally have closed the exit of our children to Heilandia and the United States.
  2. Nesvet Nezar
    +27
    6 June 2013 08: 39
    YES, we must cede the Europeans and, as a pilot project, allow Gay marriages in Dagestan or Chechnya. If the law works and is useful, then accept it as a nationwide one. Why we rest do not understand .... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    1. +22
      6 June 2013 08: 57
      Quote: Nesvet Nezarya
      YES, we must cede the Europeans and, as a pilot project, allow Gay marriages in Dagestan or Chechnya. If the law works and is useful, then accept it as a nationwide one. Why we rest do not understand .... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      In response, the geropa will introduce a visa-free regime for homosexuals entering geyropa territory.
      Conversely, the stump is clear, they should block the entrance, for example, under the pretext of quarantine, entrusting the holding of this event to Mr. Onishchenko. am
      1. +21
        6 June 2013 09: 10
        Quote: ....
        in the strong desire to translate the conversation on the solution of any economic and political problems to the plane of the problems of sexual minorities.


        Well, this is a topic for Europe, the Holy Apostle Paul wrote in the Epistle to the Romans

        replaced the truth of God with a lie, and worshiped, and served the creature instead of the Creator, who is blessed forever, amen. Therefore, God betrayed them to shameful passions: women replaced their natural use with unnatural; likewise, men, having left the natural use of females, were inflamed with lust for each other, men on men doing shame and receiving in themselves proper retribution for their error.
        1. nakaz
          +1
          6 June 2013 23: 33
          Definitely not allowed gays and lesbians to adopt children.
          Do you love each other, do you want children?
          So love each other and try!
      2. Vrungel78
        +16
        6 June 2013 10: 09
        Quote: GreatRussia
        entrusting the holding of this event to Mr. Onishchenko.


        I can imagine how Onishchenko will say: "We took samples in the asses of incoming gays, they turned out to be positive for the presence of harmful bacteria. In this regard, the Ministry of Health is ordered to process the above holes with damastos at customs posts." laughing
        1. +2
          6 June 2013 20: 04
          Quote: Vrungel78
          processing of the above holes with damastos "

          Turpentine is more effective wassat(in the filter is cruel, even the word "skipidap" has to be written in half Latin wink )
        2. jjj
          +2
          6 June 2013 21: 50
          And note, this procedure does not violate the norms of the current Russian legislation
  3. Dima190579
    -3
    6 June 2013 08: 46
    Lack of result is also a result.
  4. +8
    6 June 2013 08: 47
    Talking with the EU about all these things is the same as explaining the Pythagorean theorem to a goat: you seem to be saying everything right, but she still looks at you with big dumb eyes. Moreover, with countries separately, it seems like you can solve some issues, but the EU is already impenetrable. As one person - a person, several people - a crowd.
    1. +11
      6 June 2013 09: 19
      Why offend goats, unlike the EU hom-cats, a goat is a very smart animal that can take a whole flock of sheep and rams even to pasture, even home, and it smells wolves at a very great distance and is ready to fight with them for their kids laughing
      1. +2
        6 June 2013 10: 00
        Quote: Andrey57
        senses wolves at a very great distance and is ready to fight with them for their kids

        Wolves are very afraid of her. It was approximately as if a cheburek was fighting with me for its dumplings. wink
  5. +5
    6 June 2013 08: 49
    It’s time to stop these Euro-summits on the territory of Russia. God forbid they bring this virus of universal tolerance to us! wink Then no antibiotics are enough.
    1. +7
      6 June 2013 09: 01
      Quote: sergo0000
      It's time to stop these euro summits

      And the word itself is what! Summits, Semites ...
    2. -1
      6 June 2013 09: 07
      Nooo) You cannot stop the summits. I myself am from Yekaterinburg. At least two roads were repaired. And at a pace that I have not seen for a long time. For 2 nights, a couple of kilometers laid. Summits to be.
      1. Vrungel78
        +2
        6 June 2013 09: 56
        Sail away your 2 km with the first rain
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  6. Grigorich 1962
    +8
    6 June 2013 08: 53
    I saw this summit ... our GDP costs between two fagots says the right things, but these two probably think ... "how many Muschins are lonely in Russia ..... they should pair up ...... oh lope of work ". Fu damn ... how is the EU with its obsessive plans tired already.
  7. 0
    6 June 2013 09: 00
    "... I will say that at the Russia-EU summit the topics of gay people, energy and the abolition of the visa regime are discussed ..."

    Water sharpens a stone. Anyway, there will be progress.
  8. +1
    6 June 2013 09: 02
    "... In terms of the level of 'joy' from the appearance of her name on the pages of our publication, only Hillary Clinton can compare with Mrs. Ashton, but she is already calculating the state secretary's pension, and the Baroness is still on horseback ..."

    Yes, this baroness DOES NOT DECIDE ANYTHING. She says that they sang in Washington. It’s so simple, a lively shout, without its own opinion ... In general, it doesn’t cost attention AT ALL. A lot of honor.
  9. Vrungel78
    +3
    6 June 2013 09: 07
    In the elderberry garden
    Summit in the Urals.
    Katherine Ashton and Hollande
    Rompuy
    "We will cancel your visas" -
    Barroso spoke
    "If you cancel
    Siberian frosts ".
    Vova Putin is not deaf
    Everyone heard it.
  10. Dimani
    +2
    6 June 2013 09: 09
    I have not "checked in" about biometric passports. Europeans don't like biometric passports?
  11. +3
    6 June 2013 09: 13
    that even the questioner herself, obviously, hardly understood what nonsense she asked. Putin, in a characteristic manner for him, answered this absurd question:

    Well, you also compared! The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev! What does an NGO have to do with it, do they really shut it down? Have you read the law at least? Nothing is said there not only about the closure of these organizations, but even about the application of some sanctions against them! It is only about disclosing information. But nobody closes them. What does the Arab spring have to do with it? These are completely different things.

    I wish it came to our cheer patriots. And sometimes you read in comments about Putin’s ruthless struggle with NGOs, it’s already getting ridiculous.
    Europeans - Putin about the S-300,

    Putin to the Europeans; Assad does not have a 300, although there is a contract. Europeans understood, but not all of us. Everyone is looking for a double meaning where it does not exist.
  12. +3
    6 June 2013 09: 22
    Damn. And I didn’t even notice that he passed, damn it, they didn’t even block the roads, go nuts. Apparently it was so important.
  13. xmypp
    +10
    6 June 2013 09: 28
    Do I need one place to cancel a visa?
    How will this affect anything?
    1. +8
      6 June 2013 10: 01
      Quote: Xmypp
      How will this affect anything?

      Officials will not need to apply for visas, isn’t it profitable for you laughing
  14. Vrungel78
    +2
    6 June 2013 09: 33
    In the elderberry garden
    Summit in the Urals.
    Katherine Ashton and Hollande
    Rompuy with @ c @ li.
    "We will cancel your visas" -
    Barroso spoke
    "If you cancel
    Siberian frosts ".
    Vova Putin is not deaf
    Everyone heard it.
    His meeting with Angela
    Ended up m @ no
  15. kavkaz8888
    +7
    6 June 2013 09: 37
    And this woman, Katya Ashton, is a pure crocodile. The inquisitors of all their beautiful people were burned, and now men are probably afraid to sleep with them. In the morning, with open eyes, I opened, I saw such a beauty, and ran into fright. And she is bored into lesbians.
  16. +7
    6 June 2013 09: 45
    Instead of reducing the cost of the ticket for Russian passenger transportation inside, so that the layman could understand that flying to Sochi (one way ticket 11 thousand economy class) is more profitable than to Egypt (from 15 thousand the whole package with accommodation and meals) . So no, they establish the flow of tourists to other countries, Mlyn.

    Here is such arithmetic.
    1. +2
      6 June 2013 09: 51
      From Moscow to Sochi, tickets from 7500 cost, but what kind of ticket to Egypt for 15000 under the program is all inclusive ?!
      1. +3
        6 June 2013 10: 02
        Quote: urzul
        t, and what kind of ticket to Egypt for 15000 according to the program is all inclusive ?!

        Oh, Urzul gathered in Egiped laughing But what in Sochi is not climate or price?
        1. +3
          6 June 2013 10: 08
          I gathered in Sochi in 14, the current is rumored to forbid entry from other cities, I think I’ll now buy a Lada and register;)))
          1. Batkamahno
            +2
            6 June 2013 10: 57
            go to Abkhazia. From Gagra to the stadiums in Adler 30-40 minutes drive. And if somewhere closer to the border to rent housing I think even faster. But with the price of housing in Sochi, the difference will be significant
          2. +3
            6 June 2013 11: 56
            Quote: urzul
            , I think to buy Lada there now and register;)))

            Ha, tricky move laughing take a rusty penny for five thousand and the whole business. Only now your koment I will read the inhabitants of Sochi and raise prices for used Lada every ten wassat
            Although about the rumors, yes this is a complete mess, how they will pay back the invested without nonresident. Rather, someone remembered the Olympics 80 in Moscow.
            1. +5
              6 June 2013 12: 00
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Ha, tricky move take a rusty penny for five thousand and the whole business. Only now your koment I will read the inhabitants of Sochi and raise prices for used Lada every ten
              Sparrow will not sell his swallow. laughing Come to rest to us, in the Urals. The average temperature is + 14-17, so you are insured against sunstroke. laughing
              1. +3
                6 June 2013 12: 05
                Quote: Mechanic
                Come to rest to us, in the Urals.

                Eugene, so he was going to the Olympics, and she will be in the winter hi
              2. +5
                6 June 2013 12: 06
                Quote: Mechanic
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Ha, tricky move take a rusty penny for five thousand and the whole business. Only now your koment I will read the inhabitants of Sochi and raise prices for used Lada every ten
                Sparrow will not sell his swallow. laughing Come to rest to us, in the Urals. The average temperature is + 14-17, so you are insured against sunstroke. laughing

                Hi Zhen! Do Sparrow have five in my opinion?
                1. +4
                  6 June 2013 12: 14
                  Quote: igor67
                  Do Sparrow have five in my opinion?

                  Yes five, here it is wassat He will not sell it simply because they will not buy it, there is still a need to pay extra, so that they would take laughing
              3. +1
                6 June 2013 12: 13
                I'm better at Baikal this year
                1. +1
                  6 June 2013 12: 27
                  On Olkhon or on the Circum-Baikal Railway? Or are you on the other hand?
                  1. +1
                    6 June 2013 12: 42
                    To Irkutsk, and there friends where they will take
                    1. VAF
                      VAF
                      +6
                      6 June 2013 12: 58
                      Quote: urzul
                      To Irkutsk, and there friends where they will take


                      Andrey, then I advise you to go to the Belaya river ... the average water temperature in summer is + 6-10C ... you jump and ... two "advantages" right away at the goal and ... will ring .... but you can drink vodka ... sea! drinks
                      1. +2
                        6 June 2013 13: 19
                        Quote: vaf
                        Andrey, then I advise you on the river Belaya

                        Near Baikal?
                      2. VAF
                        VAF
                        +4
                        6 June 2013 13: 36
                        Quote: Spade
                        Near Baikal?


                        Almost the same as to Usolye, to Baikal, if from Irkutsk ... well, there will be 20 kilometers further! drinks
                      3. +3
                        6 June 2013 13: 55
                        Now I'll look at the Google satellite, but I was unlikely to be there. I usually rode east from Irkutsk, Usolye beyond Angarsk, in the other direction. But you must admit that there are the most beautiful places in the world. Once we rode for lingonberries, I came across a waterfall. A brook, half a meter high, the water "runs". But I'm sure the Japanese would have fallen into "Zen" there. Extremely beautiful.

                        Everyone should go there. Holidays at sea - rest for the body. Rest there is rest for the soul.
                      4. VAF
                        VAF
                        +3
                        6 June 2013 13: 59
                        Quote: Spade
                        I usually rode east from Irkutsk, Usolye beyond Angarsk, in the other direction. But you must admit that there are the most beautiful places in the world. Once we rode for lingonberries, I came across a waterfall. A brook, half a meter high, the water "runs". But I am sure the Japanese would have fallen into "Zen" there. Extremely beautiful.


                        Well, we ... as the squadron commander Titarenko said ... "forward to the West" fellow
                        And beauty .. this is not the right word .. BEAUTYdrinks and what should be noted ... they didn’t even think about any ticks! drinks
                      5. +1
                        6 June 2013 14: 39
                        Ticks are not dangerous there now. Neither burtulose, nor encephalitis. Spring sickness. Although I would have been inoculated on the tourist site.
                      6. +2
                        6 June 2013 19: 57
                        Quote: vaf
                        .Average summer water temperature + 6-10С ...


                        Seryozha, I once bathed in a mountain river, still I remember how I cool in the heat
                    2. +3
                      6 June 2013 13: 08
                      Have you gone before this?
                      Olkhon is in theory better. But take a long time. The Circum-Baikal Railway is a beauty. Tunnels are approximately 1 per kilometer. But there is not much swimming. Feet brings in a minute.

                      However, wherever you go, you realize that Baikal is like a drug. Will want to go there again and again. No sea can compare with this. I’ll go again in the fall
                      1. VAF
                        VAF
                        +5
                        6 June 2013 13: 14
                        Quote: Spade
                        Have you gone before this?


                        No ... yes, I was in the White time ... a few ... when there was still a division, and on flights ... so they were "taken" only to White.

                        Baikal is beautiful ... there is even nothing to say here, I still don't eat pine nuts, because. such "calluses" in the language ... no words.

                        Poses ... it's just super ... manty didn’t stand nearby.

                        And here is omul. yes, especially with a smell ... this is "something" wassat although many people really like it, but I can’t even watch, not that .. eat! request
                      2. +4
                        6 June 2013 13: 33
                        Quote: vaf
                        yes, especially with a smell ... this is "something"

                        It is called salted. Do not scare people.

                        Baikal is a concentrated beauty. Where he was, from Poland to Japan. But this is something beyond. This is not a dead sea, which do not care, swim and forget. Baikal is respectful. As when you are talking to an old veteran of the Great Patriotic War. I can not adequately talk about the feelings that are visited there. You just have to go there
                      3. VAF
                        VAF
                        +2
                        6 June 2013 13: 42
                        Quote: Spade
                        It is called salted. Do not scare people.


                        And to hell with him .. as he is called, the main thing is how he ... "stinks", in the sense of smells .... but here I do not argue .. for an amateur.
                        And to scare our people? .. It's ... unrealistic! unless " fellowpatriots with "unctuous Esaul" wassat

                        But to compare Omul with our Don herring or shamayka, I don’t say anything about a fisherman .. it's just .. blasphemy. wink

                        Even with the Volga "hall", despite the fact that that wildly bony and then ... omul was not standing nearby.

                        About Baikal ... I repeat ... this is an unearthly beauty. especially from the air !!! fellow
              4. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                6 June 2013 13: 09
                Quote: Mechanic
                The average temperature is + 14-17, so you are insured against sunstroke


                Zhenya, you propose on Shartash immediately in Stone pallets .. "to be accommodated" drinks

                Then it’s better to go to Tavatuy, at least catch pike there .. well or .. shoot! good
                1. +5
                  6 June 2013 13: 24
                  Quote: vaf
                  Zhenya, you propose on Shartash immediately in Stone pallets .. "to be accommodated"

                  Then it’s better to go to Tavatuy, at least catch pike there .. well or .. shoot!
                  Hello, Sergey. Forget about the pike on Tavatuy, but the southern shore of the shartash (Isoplit) is the most cactus. A place of rest for all working Yekaterinburg. laughing drinks
                  1. VAF
                    VAF
                    +5
                    6 June 2013 13: 46
                    Quote: Mechanic
                    Forget about the pike on Tavatuy,


                    Oh how belay Sincerely sorry ... usually stood along the shore .. as there were a lot of logs!
                    Zhenya, but the lake in the direction of Berezovsk .. wasn’t it all the same?

                    and there are fewer people than on VIZ or Shartash drinks
            2. +2
              6 June 2013 12: 03
              Well, there are plans to do parking at the entrance, so that all nonresident cars leave there
              1. +4
                6 June 2013 12: 08
                Quote: urzul
                that all nonresident cars left there

                Yes, one figs the whole city will be in traffic jams. This is our national tradition. And then, if you were planning to go by car, then the hemorrhoids would not be measured along the highway. Each traffic cop will look into the trunk with shaking up all the belongings there. And there will be quite a few gaits during the Olympics, and the situation in Sochi itself will not be better. Behind the wheel do not go booze, do not hedgehog on the train.
                1. +2
                  6 June 2013 12: 12
                  OU OU, that week I made some of these "smart" traffic rules re-read.
                  1. +1
                    6 June 2013 12: 18
                    Quote: urzul
                    OU OU, that week I made some of these "smart" traffic rules re-read.

                    Andrey, are you a traffic cop laughing
                    1. +2
                      6 June 2013 12: 21
                      No, I know traffic rules by heart, but traffic police officers very often do not;)) I use this
                      1. +4
                        6 June 2013 12: 28
                        Quote: urzul
                        No, traffic rules know by heart

                        Five points, but only the word STSI by heart and then I do not pronounce
                      2. +1
                        6 June 2013 12: 44
                        Vadim. I noticed a long time ago that they don’t like when a competent driver, because it’s no secret that most of them tell everything about their violation.
                      3. +3
                        6 June 2013 12: 45
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        Five points, but only the word STSI by heart and then I do not pronounce

                        Vadim, and you don’t pronounce it, but just say the Police Inspectorate for Road Response. Remember, only capital letters of words wassat
                      4. +2
                        6 June 2013 20: 01
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Vadim, and you don’t pronounce it, but just say


                        You will learn Romanov and fly at least 15 days smile
                      5. VAF
                        VAF
                        +4
                        6 June 2013 13: 21
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        but only the word traffic police by heart and then I do not pronounce


                        Vadim, and you .. [b] D [/ boni [b] And [/ bspektoru [b] B [/ babki and [b] D [/ move [b] D [/ more drinks
                      6. +2
                        6 June 2013 20: 04
                        Quote: vaf
                        Vadim, and you .. [b] D [/ boni [b] And [/ bspektoru [b] B [/ babki and [b] D [/ move


                        Thank you friends, you will go broke in FIG smile
                2. +6
                  6 June 2013 12: 29
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Each traffic cop will look into the trunk with shaking up all the belongings there. And there will be quite a few gaits during the Olympics, and the situation in Sochi itself will not be better. Do not drive while driving, so take a hedgehog on the train.
                  1. +6
                    6 June 2013 12: 43
                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn

                    The cops took the wheels off, well, nothing sacred laughing
              2. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                6 June 2013 13: 19
                Quote: urzul
                Well, there are plans to do parking at the entrance,


                Andrey, what are you, decided to say so .. to try the "most expensive road" to Krasnaya Polyana wink
            3. +4
              6 June 2013 12: 04
              Sanya, and I would have liked a pretty penny, I had 73 years of June the month of assembly, a hundred times I regretted that I had sold
              1. +4
                6 June 2013 12: 17
                Quote: igor67
                Sanya, I would love a pretty penny,

                In Israel, a penny belay Yes, every second will stop you and ask to sit down or ride, nostalgia. You’ll get to work for hours.
                1. +4
                  6 June 2013 12: 21
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: igor67
                  Sanya, I would love a pretty penny,

                  In Israel, a penny belay Yes, every second will stop you and ask to sit down or ride, nostalgia. You’ll get to work for hours.

                  Somewhere I have a snapshot of a six, I shot it that year, the fields are running but few, nine is also a rarity already, in 2000 there were more
              2. +3
                6 June 2013 12: 32
                Quote: igor67
                I had 73 of the year June, the month of assembly, a hundred times I regretted that I had sold


                she is?
                1. +4
                  6 June 2013 13: 10
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Quote: igor67
                  I had 73 of the year June, the month of assembly, a hundred times I regretted that I had sold


                  she is?
                  . For what? belay
                  1. +3
                    6 June 2013 13: 37
                    Quote: igor67
                    For what?


                    peaceful Soviet tractor.
                    everyone knows that so that we do not collect it turns out - a tank, so we decided to return to the roots.
            4. +1
              6 June 2013 12: 19
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Rather, someone remembered the 80 Olympiad in Moscow.


              But what about the Olympics in Moscow?
              I, as a nonresident, did not remember that I was driven as a nonresident bloody gebnya request .
              A keychain bear bought then in Moscow at the moment on the keys to the apartment, if that winked .
              1. +3
                6 June 2013 12: 41
                Quote: Karlsonn
                But what about the Olympics in Moscow?

                as far as I remember all the elements for 101 km were sent. Yes, and non-resident not much allowed, maybe you are lucky request
                1. +2
                  6 June 2013 13: 14
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, and non-resident not much allowed, maybe you are lucky


                  yes everything was fine, arrived in the morning, walked for a day, flew away the next day what .
                  the first time then I tried "Fantu", I bought a keychain well, as a northerner, I was struck by the number of varieties of ice cream.
                2. VAF
                  VAF
                  +5
                  6 June 2013 13: 52
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, and non-resident not much allowed, maybe you are lucky


                  Sanya, don’t believe it .. it’s free and even with tickets for competitions, though it’s not in the forefront, but it was free to buy .. even sold in transitions.

                  With plane or train tickets ... no problem. I flew in the day before the opening!

                  But the canned beer and Pepsi-Cola were brought in .. unintentionally!
                  1. +2
                    6 June 2013 14: 47
                    Quote: vaf
                    Sanya do not believe .. with

                    Hello, Sergey! I watched the TV program 2 years ago, and so they all said there. What am I talking about request
                    1. +3
                      6 June 2013 15: 00
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Hello, Sergey! I watched the TV program 2 years ago, and so they all said there. What am I talking about


                      you have been deceived by a comrade No. .
                3. +3
                  6 June 2013 14: 14
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, and nonresident not much allowed, maybe you are lucky request

                  It may seem strange, but in Moscow during the Olympics in 80 there were no problems with tickets, especially with a flight. "They frightened the people" - he went through the periphery. wink There were problems in Gorky and along the Volga. We reached Vorkuta in Kustanai through Kurumochi (Samara and around).
                  1. +2
                    6 June 2013 15: 02
                    Quote: There was a mammoth
                    It may seem strange, but in Moscow during the Olympics in 80 there were no problems with tickets, especially with a flight. "They frightened the people" - he went through the periphery.


                    Allow me to sign up, we flew from Magadan, I liked it so much that the tickets were exchanged to take a walk around Moscow.
                    There were no problems with tickets.
                    1. +1
                      6 June 2013 20: 40
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      ... exchanged tickets to walk around Moscow.

                      We were dumb, moving around at work. And so in the port they explained for a long time what an oscilloscope is (the best explanation in those days is "this is such a TV for work laughing "and what kind of" pieces of iron "we are taking with us.
                      1. +1
                        6 June 2013 21: 48
                        Quote: There was a mammoth
                        ... And so in the port they explained for a long time what an oscilloscope is (the best explanation in those days is "this is such a TV for work


                        Somehow the newly minted traffic cop had to explain that the shock absorber is a part of the car, probably he was confused by the proximity of the shock absorber with an ax and MPL winked .
          3. +1
            6 June 2013 12: 16
            Quote: urzul
            I think to buy Lada there now and put on record;)))


            all worried

            But are the Cossacks in Sochi old?
      2. +3
        6 June 2013 10: 54
        http://www.tui.ru/AllHotTours/?country=Egypt Первый в списке посмотрел, питание - все включено.

        As for air travel, I admit my mistake I looked at the prices a month ago in Gelendzhik. was from 11700. Now looked at tomorrow there is one suggestion from Ural Airlines approx. for 7400. All the rest is about 12000 thousand. For some dates there is even cheaper than 7400, but anyway, count - a round-trip flight is already equal to a trip to Egypt, and fly to Egypt longer - why? Meals in Egypt are included, Accommodation for 7 days is included.

        I did not start collecting statistics on other trips to Egypt - the wife’s girlfriend flies a couple of three times a year the cost of 12-18 thousand

        In Sochi, for a similar period, you will receive from 20 a minimum with accommodation and meals. It’s good, before the Olympics, prices will not increase.

        PS: Living in Sochi, I calculated sooo humane prices for 4000 thousand for 7 days, but you’ll find such an offer by chance most likely from 8000.
      3. VAF
        VAF
        +2
        6 June 2013 13: 15
        Quote: urzul
        Tickets from Moscow to Sochi cost from 7500,


        There are from 4100, if the housekeeper drinks
        1. +4
          6 June 2013 13: 35
          Well epona mom. They’re talking about serious things, about Samita, and they’re all about relaxation. Be serious. laughing
          1. +4
            6 June 2013 14: 49
            Quote: Mechanic
            Well epona mom. They’re talking about serious things, about Samita, and they’re all about relaxation

            Yes, for who needs this Samit negative
            1. +7
              6 June 2013 15: 26
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, for who needs this Samit


              totally agree drinks , all the same, it is still not less than 10 years to issue a visa, the problems of "not like that" do not bother anyone at all, but foreign agents should not be taken on a pencil, but sent in orderly rows to raise agriculture bully .
  17. +1
    6 June 2013 09: 58
    Does the EU delegation accidentally have rainbow colors?
    1. +1
      6 June 2013 15: 33
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Does the EU delegation accidentally have rainbow colors?


      everything is more neglected there:
      LONDON, 24 May. The building, which houses the British cabinet secretariat, will be decorated with a rainbow flag for a week in support of sexual minorities
      Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/05/24/1132776.html
  18. Yarosvet
    +2
    6 June 2013 10: 06
    There are only two questions:

    1 at whose expense and how much is the banquet?

    2 what from these gatherings to the country?
    1. Batkamahno
      +2
      6 June 2013 10: 43
      Tussovka))))
      Drink vodka, eat grouse, talk with our intelligence
  19. Batkamahno
    +4
    6 June 2013 10: 39
    I recall one previously popular song about fishing))))))
    “At the seventh international conference in The Hague, our delegation made a package of constructive proposals aimed at deepening the process of integration in Europe
    Heads of delegations and members of governments spoke
    but I didn’t go, I bought a bloodworm and went to the river I like fishing, you sit on the shore you’ll put a fishing rod pecking fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale
    At the eighth international conference in Prague, our delegation made a package of constructive proposals aimed at deepening the process of integration in Europe
    Heads of delegations and members of governments spoke
    but I didn’t go, I bought a bloodworm and went to the river I like fishing, you sit on the shore you’ll put a fishing rod pecking fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale fish-fish-fish-whale
    At the ninth international conference in Geneva, our delegation made a package of constructive proposals aimed at deepening the integration process, all spoke
    but I didn’t go, I bought a bloodworm and went to the river. I like fishing. you sit on the shore. you take a fishing rod.
  20. +3
    6 June 2013 10: 55
    Quote: Yarosvet
    1 at whose expense and how much is the banquet?

    A woman, at a reluctance, ate a whole piglet!
    Quote: Yarosvet
    2 what from these gatherings to the country?

    The language is dense, but in fact it is empty! Although many figures in Ukraine are very jealous of this - here we go again to Russia, and we are waiting, waiting ...
  21. fenix57
    0
    6 June 2013 11: 05
    "Unless our European guests had a hearty meal, drank jet fuel and with lean faces set off as soon as possible from" wild "Russia to ..." -Bum!ATTACHED TO CAVIARS, TIME TO GO TO EARTHWATERS, SINGLE-SEX hi
  22. 0
    6 June 2013 11: 15
    They got me with these same-sex marriages! I went to Europe - they wave flags there, come here - you again pester me
    Which of those present could give such a detailed answer? The first time I heard this question was brief and the more I hear about it the answers are getting shorter !!! All this Euro-fuss, then the questions on the S-300 will disappear.
    How are you doing with minorities?
    Yes, how do I know, I’m not a fagot like you !!!
  23. 0
    6 June 2013 11: 24
    Recently, these congresses, summits, etc. are held only in Russia, or to put out EU dissatisfaction or a waste of money
  24. +2
    6 June 2013 12: 10
    Putin once again showed at this summit that he not a whipping boy.
    The program of the gathering of European critics of Russia has long been known, nothing new.
    Why is Russia participating in this coven?
  25. +2
    6 June 2013 12: 15
    Hmmm ... Do not wash, so roll ... Let Putin, legalize homosexuals, as we are in the West ... But hell to you, legalization will lead to mass slaughter ... Bartholomew’s night will nervously smoke aside ...
    1. DmitriRazumov
      0
      6 June 2013 14: 09
      Quote: Mijgan
      Come on Putin, legalize homosexuals, as we are in the west ...

      We have them, what is illegal? There is at least one law or by-law. infringes on their rights?
      In our country, unlike geyrops, they are equalized in rights and obligations with all other citizens and have no advantages, as in the EU, in relation to the latter. This infuriates all Westerwelle, etc.
  26. slvevg
    +3
    6 June 2013 12: 16
    urgently need to translate the site into several European languages, I think there will be many fans of the traditional orientation among normal Europeans, let them know that there is still hope for traditional families represented by Russia!
    1. 0
      7 June 2013 05: 29
      Support.
  27. +3
    6 June 2013 12: 31
    Dear readers of the Military Review, what would we not write to Europe here is a damn thing! They have only one interest - their own. For all ages, they have seen Russia in the form of a pie that they want to gobble up. They still have an opinion that we have bears walking in the streets. So do not tear your heart, tie it in a handkerchief and be happy in the best country in the world.
  28. +2
    6 June 2013 12: 39
    And whether to send us to the geyropu far away with these summits from which there is no sense in wanting to speak on business please come talk, and only do
  29. Kovrovsky
    +1
    6 June 2013 13: 40
    Quote: Dimani
    I have not "checked in" about biometric passports. Europeans don't like biometric passports?

    Europeans don't like passport holders!
  30. +1
    6 June 2013 13: 56
    Just a circus for starving unemployed Europeans, a mind to take responsibility for economic reform and social sphere is not enough, my uncle hay deeply care.
    The journalist will not ask about fagots and democracy - they will fire him, the politician will not raise this question - they will not vote for him, they themselves have created a herd, now his hostages.
  31. DmitriRazumov
    +2
    6 June 2013 13: 59
    The European Union is ready to do all the heartburn with one single goal - to delay the signing of such an important document for an indefinite period. For thousands of pseudo-Islamic radicals and extremists of other stripes, the path to an old Europe is open, but for some reason Europeans are unacceptable for Europeans to visit Europe as ordinary Russian citizens.

    These our regrets about, in general, a question that is not very relevant for the country, are not entirely clear. Well, they do not want us to cancel visas, well, let them choke. It is already ridiculous how they use this handout, like a carrot hung in front of a donkey. Businessmen easily issue annual visas for themselves. not so expensive for businessmen. All other citizens, too, in my opinion, can easily get a tourist visa, a visa for treatment, for study, etc.
    It’s disgusting to see how our, especially "liberal" politicians such as LADIES, constantly take credit for this, that they kind of raised the issue of visas. There is no such question. If you do not want a visa-free regime with a normal country, then choke on your visa-free Arabs and other terrorists. they openly kill citizens in your streets, organize terrorist attacks and uprisings, do not give you a pass. This is your choice, gentlemen gay Europeans ...
  32. +1
    6 June 2013 13: 59
    This summit is such a non-binding form of communication between gayrops and Russia. These countless commissars need to do the appearance of work, somehow to justify their payment to ordinary gay men.
  33. +1
    6 June 2013 15: 53
    Why do we need visa-free entry into our country of geyropovtsev propagandizing their Sodom psychosis among our children. It is necessary for such agitators and agitatives to ban entry forever.
  34. rereture
    +3
    6 June 2013 16: 54
    People, this is off topic, but you all will like it: Catholics beat FEMEN in Paris.
    1. +2
      6 June 2013 18: 36
      Quote: rereture
      Catholics beat FEMEN in Paris


      sorry not nailed to FIG am here in Kiev they have already lifted everyone.

      about on yutrub the comrade clearly spoke:
      ... Is this not a suppression of a bright, charismatic personality? An urgent need to introduce a no-fly zone over France and humanitarianly bomb over Paris !!! So win !!!
      laughing
    2. MG42
      +5
      6 June 2013 19: 28
      Well, how much can this video be dragged around the forum? This was the first time in a geopolitical mosaic half a year ago .. they have nothing to do with the summit ..
      1. rereture
        +1
        6 June 2013 22: 12
        I apologize)
    3. 0
      7 June 2013 05: 37
      Breasts are breastless, when they break them in so that the desire is no longer to do this? I have here one acquaintance turned out to be a liberal, trapped up at a local broadcast rally. He was accidentally hit 2 times on the head with a baton. The desire to broadcast anti-government crap * disappeared forever. I do not strongly sympathize with any radical nationalist organizations, but when they mutuzit such scum and all kinds of homodrils, I want to thank them.
  35. -1
    6 June 2013 19: 18
    We fight for the abolition of visas, but it will turn out like with the WTO. What did it give for an ordinary citizen? So with visas. Is it necessary ???
    1. KEKS44
      0
      16 November 2013 19: 53
      You obviously don't need it. You sit on your 6 hundred square meters and, you will sit to death. And someone may need it!
  36. MG42
    +3
    6 June 2013 19: 39
    The next intermediate summit, the final one will not be likely >> since Russia will never integrate into the EU, even purely for geographical reasons = too large and most of the territory is in Asia, but a smaller part of the population, like the Russia-NATO summit, will always be intermediate..
    http://www.newstube.ru/media/na-sammite-rossiya-nato-obsudili-razmeshhenie-siste




    my-pro-v-europe
    the waste of jet fuel is written correctly .. European values ​​like gay prides, same-sex marriages and weddings in churches are simply unacceptable, different cultures, different mentality ..
    1. +3
      6 June 2013 20: 12
      Quote: MG42
      Russia never integrates into the EU, even for purely geographical reasons = too large


      Sergei, I even remember the line "The sun does not set over my fatherland, what a great motherland is!"
      1. MG42
        +1
        7 June 2013 12: 41
        Quote: Vadivak
        "The sun does not set over my fatherland, what a great country it is!"

        9 time zones in Russia, and there were 11, from Kaliningrad to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, as I now remember under the USSR, the radio "lighthouse" lived in Moscow time, when they said Moscow time at 15 o'clock, then there were many cities, but it always ended <in Petropavlovsk- Kamchatka midnight> ..
        And now the difference with Moscow is one hour ago, in winter time, 2 hours .. sad
        Russia cannot be "integrated" somewhere, it is the neighboring countries that can "integrate" with it, the largest land area, the largest reserves of fresh water and timber, the mighty Siberian rivers and Lake Baikal ..
  37. +1
    6 June 2013 19: 50
    The visa regime turns out to be the same story as the Jesson-Wenig amendment. This is a problem that can be discussed endlessly and absolutely nothing can be done to solve it. The only news that deserves attention is that the Poles are ready to cancel the visa regime with Russia. It turns out that they can make political decisions that are not without common sense. This could radically change the currently not very friendly relations.
  38. 0
    7 June 2013 15: 45
    Quote: uzer 13
    The visa regime turns out to be the same story as the Jesson-Wenig amendment. This is a problem that can be discussed endlessly and nothing can be done to solve it.


    The issue of visas will be resolved in the same way as in due time as amended, i.e. as soon as it becomes financially beneficial to our smaller brothers from the EU.
  39. -1
    8 June 2013 14: 21
    It seems that the European bureaucracy has chosen Trotsky’s tactics in relation to Russia - neither peace nor war. I want to immediately ask who pays for this "banquet". I am ashamed to watch the leaders of the European Union and Russia gather. And they begin to ask V.V. Putin questions about gays, about Syria, about non-profit organizations. That they do not know the president’s attitude to these issues. I am sure. such EU-Russia summits should stop! After all, the main issues: security, energy, a visa-free regime are discussed without visible success stop ! Down with the fruitless summits!
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