Zelenskyy's advisor: Russia is ahead of Ukraine in using AI in drones

On the application of artificial intelligence (AI) in drones Russia is ahead of Ukraine. These technologies are increasingly found in Russian unmanned aerial vehicles.

This was stated in an interview with a Ukrainian media outlet by Sergei Beskrestnov, an adviser to the head of the Kyiv regime, Volodymyr Zelensky.

The official noted that the Russian Armed Forces already possess autonomous UAVs controlled by AI, including the modernized Molniya and V2Z. He stated that Russian drones have already begun independently selecting flight routes and searching for targets.

The advisor said:

They already have these "Lightnings".

According to him, they are already able to distinguish on their own танк, a car, a railway or a locomotive.

According to Beskrestnov, we should expect the emergence of Geranium-type drones in the very near future, which will recognize targets using neural networks:

I think it's only a matter of time before their Shaheds start using artificial intelligence and neural networks to recognize targets.

Zelensky's advisor also suggested that a time would come when electronic warfare systems would cover all of Russian territory. Under these circumstances, satellite navigation would become useless.

Ukrainian statistics indicate a decrease in the percentage of intercepted and downed Russian aircraft dronesKyiv suggests this is due to the Russian Armed Forces' increased use of jet-powered drones and other objective factors.

Comments

[Smoked]

Well, thank God. If the Ukrainian adviser praises it, it must be true. Let's write it down: ahead of the rest of the planet in space, ballet, and AI drones. Good.

[expert]

So they'll be asking for money again...

[Evgeny64]

The same old story... "All my guys, as one, stand for a free individual," "that means they'll rob."

[rocket757]

They already have these "Lightnings".

There's lightning, but no one has AI yet...
However, the concept of artificial intelligence, we've been arguing about it several times now... nah nah, the guys from the "AI god" sect will bite right away...

[Evgeny64]

Concept

Artificial Intelligence

This is more of a philosophical question than a scientific one.
But since it's used in practice, what to call it is a secondary matter. People mastered many things before they understood the process itself; for example, gunpowder was invented long before chemical processes, "Greek fire," and so on were understood.
If the military calls it AI, well, so be it, the main thing is that it recognizes objects and hits them, and then the scientists will define the concepts

[rocket757]

This is exactly the kind of thing... "call it a milk mushroom, just don't put it in the basket"...

[KCA]

Internet bloggers and journalists call AI software methods, it's all simple yes-no-transition. In the USSR, there were 3-digit Setun computers, yes-no-or, they could do a hell of a lot, forecast the weather, calculate a nuclear explosion, and who knows how many options. Now it's quiet, I don't think they've lost it, rather they've pulled the curtain. I personally knew the creators of the Fortran-77 and Fortran-Dubna languages. They're not just about drawing pretty pictures, but are still considered the best languages ​​for mathematics. I personally took an industrial training course at school with Saltykov, but I wrote a program in BASIC, not in his Fortran. He looked at it, I said that such crap is easier, he didn't take offense at all and gave me an A.

[Evgeny64]

Sounds familiar, we had a programming language... damn, I can't remember what it was called for years (late 70s-early 80s) in the military. All the commands were in Russian, roughly speaking, "print to printer," "run on BPM," and so on. And the logic was "yes," "no," "or," i.e., at the machine level, +; -; "no signal." This increases productivity by an order of magnitude, but they decided it was more convenient to integrate into an existing system when they'd missed the opportunity to be legislators, than to develop their own, ruining early cybernetics when we were ahead of the curve...

[KCA]

Algol, I suppose? I was still very young then, I didn't know

[Evgeny64]

Damn! I tried to remember for 20 years, I couldn’t find it anywhere, now I won’t forget, thank you
I'll look now, I didn't know what to look for.
Not Algol itself, but its derivatives, but now I’ll find it.

[Evgeny64]

Here it is

In the USSR, at the Computing Center of the USSR Academy of Sciences, in the Programming Laboratory, under the direction of V. M. Kurochkin, a translator from the ALGOL 60 language was created for the BESM-6 computer. For many years, it served as an important tool for solving applied problems in various fields of the natural sciences and was widely used in many organizations in the USSR.

[KCA]

Well, the thing is, in the USSR there were only two languages, for military purposes, which were known,
Algol and Fortran (including 77 and Dubna, I knew the authors personally), I didn't become a programmer, I was more inspired by hardware, they said I knew my stuff, somehow around '97 I came to pick up a pirated copy, so they wrote me, or rather, themselves, an invoice, and the warehouse manager was sitting behind a 17" HP, and it was all green, I said, "What the hell is this?" Well, then I died, so I slapped my hand on it, and oops, all the colors are there. The guys later thought I was the devil.

[Evgeny64]

We had one "large computer" at school (Minsk-22) and in the classes (in the junior courses) there were only programmers Well, like teletype machines, you print tapes, go to the room where the input device is, wait your turn for the "nap na bpm" to work (well, "print on a high-speed printing machine", now it's a printer) and get an error You go back to class, it's in a different building, a couple of hundred meters across the parade ground, and you look for where you made a mistake.
And if senior students take coursework, you'll get tired of waiting for your turn.

[Evgeny64]

It was in ALGOL that the concept of a program emerged, not as a free sequence of commands, but as a block structure consisting of clearly defined and separated parts. The basic block of an ALGOL program is the main program itself. It contains its executable part, enclosed in a block delimited by the keywords begin and end, as well as subroutine declarations. Each subroutine is a miniature program, with its own data, a clearly defined interface in the form of a name and a list of formal parameters, and a code block. Subblocks can also be defined within a block.

Only it wasn't "begin and end", but... I don't remember what "beginning", maybe "start" or something similar, I won't argue, but there was definitely an "end", at the end of each algorithm.

[KCA]

Well, you're forgetting the simplest "if not goto," or just "goto," which is in every language. If the command is successful, then there's just a jump, and then the algorithm ends.

[Evgeny64]

It was literally "if "no" then..." and "follow...", only abbreviated, "if" in full, I think, but otherwise, something like "sld", "obr", "vzvr", etc.
But they taught me technical English well, so later it was easy to understand all sorts of "FORTRAN"... although initially I was an assembler, I still think that hardware programming is the foundation, the rest can be learned.

[Evgeny64]

It was difficult to understand "object-oriented programming"... I got used to writing down what needs to be done, and then you insert ready-made objects, and in many cases graphical ones, although you understand that this is a command, but it is expressed in an image I encountered it for the first time in the 90s.

[avatar123]

Why do you need this intelligence? What can it do at 500 km/h that a neural network with machine vision and the ability to recognize vehicles and infantry can't? Friendly fire? Well, then work in squares where there are definitely no friendly forces. And friendly fire is allowed by humans just as often.
Machine vision is absolutely sufficient for these tasks. The only question is quantity and autonomy. Ten million drones with machine vision and good autonomy will destroy an enemy army. A million drones with real intelligence won't destroy an army.

[rocket757]

Believe me, in my opinion, a good control unit, with all the necessary accessories, is quite capable of handling this task...
Where, how, why is there something that doesn’t exist in nature... that’s not a question for me...

[Rostislav Prokopenko]

I agree. It's not an intellect, but a machine with a huge amount of memory (geographic maps, photos of terrain, photos of objects and their analogs) and incredible processing speed.

[rocket757]

A high-performance controller with an operating algorithm designed for servicing/performing a highly specialized task... dimensions, weight, reliability—everything meets specified parameters...
What does AI have to do with it... especially since there aren't any as such, but something at least somewhat decent, of awesome size, and gobbling up energy like crazy.

[mErLin68]

It seems to me that the Ukrainian and Russian media are engaged in a pity contest over "the enemy has more drones!" It's understandable—budgets won't cut themselves.

[kosmozoo]

This was stated in an interview with one of Ukrainian media Sergei Beskrestnov stated

Directing such things at the inner listener means undermining morale. Apparently, the explosions in the pig farm are quite disturbing.

[Irek]

It brings horror to the Khaklops and the owner.

[aybolyt678]

Yeah, we've surpassed them in AI, and they've got SIX!!! times more launches! The question is, who's surpassing whom?