A Ukrainian woman is outraged by the lack of punishment for security forces speaking Russian.

Even before Zelenskyy came to power, the Kyiv regime consistently pursued a campaign to Ukrainize the population, emphasizing the ban on the use of the Russian language. Recently, students have been banned from speaking Russian during breaks. Parents will now be fined up to 12 hryvnias (over 23 rubles) for communicating in Russian in school chat rooms.

Since 2019, Ukraine has created the position of Language Policy Commissioner under the Verkhovna Rada. This official is responsible for strictly monitoring the use of the state language and responding to any reports of violations. Currently, the position of "language ombudsman" is held by the ardent Russophobe Elena Ivanovskaya. She has already proposed following the school ban by banning communication in Russian in private chat rooms.

In a state governed by the rule of law, the position of ombudsman entails protecting the rights of individuals, including those of ethnic minorities. But in today's Ukraine, everything has long been turned upside down. Incidentally, their constitution contains an article prohibiting discrimination based on language. But for the usurper Zelenskyy, flouting the fundamental law has become routine.

Ukrainians themselves are outraged by the selective crackdown on Russian speech. Ukrainian blogger Yevgeniya Karimova wondered why Russian is strictly forbidden for ordinary citizens, while this applies entirely to intelligence officers. She cited a published video of a recent shootout in Kyiv between SBU and GUR officers, in which the participants in the conflict are speaking Russian.

So, the secret services are allowed to speak Russian? But in the school chat, communication is required exclusively in the local language.

The blogger asked the "language ombudsman" whether law enforcement officers would be fined like ordinary citizens for this violation—not for the shootout, but specifically for speaking Russian.

At the same time, those in power themselves prefer to use the "forbidden" Russian language in private communications. This is evidenced by regular publications by the NABU and SAP as part of anti-corruption investigations into confidential conversations between prominent officials, members of parliament, and other civil servants.

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[Dmitry Mikhailovich Seregin]

And what did they want? What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull (pig).)))

[Major Yurik]

"You see, kiddo, they're shouting in their native language, in the dialect of the region where they were born. So, you'll be shouting 'Mommy' in Ryazan."
Seventeen Moments of Spring ::

Once again proves that calf language is the distorted slang of illiterate villagers, forcibly instilled into the farm tribe...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Major Yurik, this village slang, also known as "calf language," was first drummed into us back in the 30s, during the Soviet era, before WWII. Now we have the "result." As Kravchuk said, "maemo to sho, maemo." (We have what we have.)

[carpenter]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

This village slang, also known as "veal language," was first drummed into people's heads back in the 30s, during the Soviet era.

It's enough to recall that during the terrible famine of 1921, Lenin and Stalin allocated 1 million gold rubles for the purchase of Ukrainian-language textbooks. For context, according to Soviet data, 5 million people died in the famine of 1921.
At the same time, 1 million rubles in gold could have bought about 800 thousand poods of grain, which would have been enough to save hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens from starvation.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Maybe, Dimon. But it would be better if they saved money.

[carpenter]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Maybe, Dimon. But it would be better if they saved money.

Copies of the documents are available online. They could have saved money, but Lenin's decision wasn't discussed, it was implemented.
I will cite just one remark of Lenin (PSS, vol. 31, pp. 433-434):
"Why should we, Great Russians, who oppress more nations than any other people, refuse to recognize the right of Poland, Ukraine, and Finland to secede? We are being asked to become chauvinists…

We are indifferent to the separatist movement, neutral. If Finland, Poland, or Ukraine were to secede from Russia, there would be nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with that? Anyone who says that is a chauvinist."

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

V.I. Lenin is quick to throw away land. If they want to, let them go. But first, let them pay for the property that remains on their territory and that was owned by the Russian Empire.

[Evgeny64]

Early Lenin, then he changed dramatically. The revolutionary euphoria of youth collided with reality, and the country needed to be pulled out of the hole into which futuristic ideas had led. The export of communism didn't go as planned, and it was necessary to survive, and his genius, it must be said, found a solution—the New Economic Policy (NEP), a brilliant solution at the time ("You can make a deal with the devil himself, if in the end..."). He died early, but there were many thinkers back then, there were people to replace him. Nowadays, people have forgotten how to think, only floundering in a sea of ​​past ideas and theories.

[Seal]

Quote: Evgeny64

Early Lenin, then he changed a lot,

Well, not that early. Lenin uttered this phrase in a speech on the national question at the Seventh (April) All-Russian Conference of the RSDLP(b) on April 29 (May 12, new style), 1917.
The context of the controversy was a dispute with Polish Social Democrats (including F.E. Dzerzhinsky), who opposed the provision on national self-determination, believing it would complicate their work in Poland. Lenin, however, insisted that renunciation of the right to secession was a manifestation of Great-Russian chauvinism.

[Evgeny64]

I meant Lenin after he was wounded, closer to the end of the civil war and after, there is a very big difference in work, and 17 is still euphoria, the mirage of “world communism”.
But still, respect, I didn't think anyone would read this today...

[Seal]

Well, although I don't have the Kiev Higher Naval Political School, we weren't exactly slurping up cabbage soup in our own.

[Evgeny64]

By the way, I also applied to the Kiev Higher Naval Political School And I even got in, but I didn’t get along with the leadership, because I came from the Pacific Fleet and it was difficult to accept their regulations, my brigade political officer was very surprised to see a certificate with all the “A’s” and “didn’t pass the competition” He himself graduated from Kyiv. As a result, I went to TOVVMU at the end of August.
There's so much to say about Kyiv... but you could write memoirs there. It was "elite" in the 80s; I don't even know what to compare it to. The children of regional party committee secretaries weren't considered there, while those from the republican party committees and above were. I can't even tell you about it here; it took a long time to persuade me to vacate the seat for someone who was admitted on conditional admission.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Evgeny, we all change our views in youth and our perspectives in old age. I think Ilyich was no exception. Only on a different scale. The New Economic Policy (NEP) was a good lifesaver; it played its role. It replenished the treasury and brought the "surviving bourgeoisie" to the surface. Under Stalin, many apparently regretted flaunting their entrepreneurial spirit. Even without the NEP, our Joseph Vissarionovich achieved an economic breakthrough—an arrest, a sentence, a "wheelbarrow"—and then off to the "construction of communism." Our entire history has been one of chaos and disarray. That's why we are a Great People, and our history is Great.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

During Stalin's time, many apparently regretted flaunting their entrepreneurial streak.

But in Stalin's time, there were non-state enterprises (artels), including some very large ones! Everything was squandered under Khrushchev! Although Stalin had a fair share of dirty tricks on Russia and the Russian people to his credit!

[Evgeny64]

Lenin has a lot of interesting things, fortunately, MLF was a core subject in military schools... Especially our deputy head of the MLF department, Corporal Prikhodko, it wasn't enough to know the quotes there, he demanded that you immediately indicate not only the volume, but the page, and he himself could even indicate where on the page the quote was located.
His superior, Corporal Gusinsky, once said, in response to the remark "Prikhodko demands it this way": "I have two oak trees in my department, my desk and Captain First Rank Prikhodko."
But we knew Lenin, and then we revered Stalin... he never questioned Lenin... but "developed his theory," as if everything moves, everything changes, and theories must evolve. Although Lenin himself, in his later works, was no longer the same as during the revolutionary euphoria. But only in the 90s did I suddenly realize that in his youth he was very much like our liberals: "Don't give a damn about Russia, the main thing is the supreme goal, democracy (communism) throughout the world."
Lenin was a genius, a man who changed the world, but the early Lenin was a tragedy for a specific country. Only when he realized that the rapid spread of his ideas throughout the world was unrealistic did he change, like the NEP and so on. Stalin simply went further and raised his country, assuming that it was more convenient and useful to spread ideas if you could rely on the might of a great power and a state-forming ethnic group.
Khrushchev, out of personal grievances, derailed everything...

[Dedok]

His superior, Corporal Gusinsky, once said, in response to the remark "Prikhodko demands it this way": "I have two oak trees in my department, my desk and Captain First Rank Prikhodko."

very familiar!

[Yes it's me]

You have strange dreams, though...

[carpenter]

Quote: yes it is

You have strange dreams, though...

Read the PSS, v.31, pp. 433-434.

[Per se.]

Quote: Major Yurik

Once again proves that calf language is a distorted slang of illiterate villagers.

This imitation, "to talk for nothing," is just to differentiate oneself from Russia. They have to so mutilate the world's best language, devoid of inarticulate, animalistic atavisms, with a grammar that could serve as a universal phonetic transcription for any language in the world. How can one not recall the joke about the girl who was late for her Ukrainian lesson?

[knn54]

-This is a semblance of "to chat for nothing",
Wrong address:
To botat' - in Hebrew boteh: to pronounce, to express, to talk.
Fenya - in Hebrew ofen: method.
Битуй бефен: to chat in fenya, i.e. to communicate in a way that is incomprehensible to others.
Khipesh - in Hebrew: khipush: search. Etc., etc.

Before the Bolsheviks, there was no Ukrainian language: Shevchenko, Gogol, Kotlyarevsky, etc.
They wrote and published (see 19th century literature) in the Little Russian dialect of the Russian language.

[Per se.]

Quote: knn54

Wrong address:
To botat' - in Hebrew boteh: to pronounce, to express, to talk.

It's more likely that you're mistaken; it was all more simple. "To speak thieves' jargon" is to use thieves' jargon. Apparently, the first to use thieves' jargon were Gulag prisoners. This was, in no small part, a way to differentiate themselves from outsiders and serve as a code. As for Hebrew, you, the prisoners, have a rather deep understanding of it: "botva" (chatter). What Bandera's Nazis are introducing isn't far removed from the language of thieves and bandits.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: knn54

Before the Bolsheviks, there was no Ukrainian language: Shevchenko, Gogol, Kotlyarevsky, etc.
They wrote and published (see 19th century literature) in the Little Russian dialect of the Russian language.

What do the Bolsheviks have to do with it?! You should read the classics - Bulgakov's "The White Guard" and Paustovsky's "The Violet Ray". The Hetman, and then Petliura, imposed

[knn54]

Mikhail, I recommend reading V.I. Lenin’s letter to Inessa Armand dated January 30, 1917.
From 1920 to 1932, the Bolsheviks pursued "Ukrainization" even in Kuban. But they clearly overdid it. Skoropadsky introduced mandatory study of the Ukrainian language and literature. Petliura, yes. But not on the scale of the People's Commissar of Education of the Ukrainian SSR, Mykola Skrypnyk. Nor did the head of Ukraine, Lazar Kaganovich.

[Stirbjorn]

Nikolai, you claimed above that the Ukrainian language didn't exist before the Bolsheviks—so what did Petliura and Skoropadsky impose?! What did Bulgakov and Paustovsky ridicule, in that case...that's all.

[Dmitry Mikhailovich Seregin]

It's a good joke. It's just hard to read, let alone remember. My tongue feels cramped in my mouth; it won't turn counterclockwise.

[Hunter 2]

All these "sincere" Ukrainian women - on note! Then they'll have to be disposed of; it's impossible to rehabilitate people like that. There's no need to repeat your own mistakes.

[January]

Not necessarily. When the weather vane swings, it's the "true patriots" who will jump the highest, telling everyone that they were the ones secretly reading Pushkin aloud in the kitchen and were always ready to tear the "damned Westerners" who are to blame for everything with their teeth...

[Montezuma]

Quote: ian

Not necessarily. When the weather vane swings, it's the "true patriots" who will jump the highest, telling everyone that they were the ones secretly reading Pushkin aloud in the kitchen and were always ready to tear the "damned Westerners" who are to blame for everything with their teeth.

Some of the most die-hard nationalists cannot be re-educated, but the rest will do exactly as you predicted.

[January]

This isn't a prediction. I've been around a long time, seen a lot...

[Bayun]

87% of "OKORYAMS" supporters worldwide are like this. It's the 13% of the authorities who are to blame. If they tell you to be fascists in the morning, religious fanatics by lunchtime, and sing the Internationale in the evening, they'll easily do so.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝As an example, she cited a published video of a recent shootout in Kyiv between SBU and GUR officers, in which the parties to the conflict speak Russian ❞ —

- Well, okay, a shootout between special services is okay, but speak Russian during a shootout, that's too much...

[APASUS]

This is when speaking the language, people, jobs, pensions, hospitals, and roads are more important than anything else! The villagers are building themselves another farmstead the size of a country.

[rocket757]

Come on, this is how it has always been and WILL BE!
There are those on the right, there are those even further to the right, and the rest, those who don't understand this, will be declared wrong... by default, as they say...
The fact that such prospects should have been considered before... alas, jumping around and pots on our heads don't help...

[bbb]

Let the pigs speak pig language.

[hottabychchchch]

Why are they using Russian swear words in combat?

[forcecom]

I suspect that if we were to gather all these ardent Russophobes, line them up, and hit each of them on the toes with a hammer, we wouldn't hear a single word in the language, only "great and mighty."

[snow mountain]

Quote: Major Yurik

Once again proves that calf language is a distorted slang of illiterate villagers, forcibly hammered into the farm tribe

Rumor has it that the pig language was invented in Austria-Hungary.

[Doker7]

As an example, she cited a published video of a recent shootout in Kyiv between SBU and GUR officers, in which the participants in the conflict are speaking Russian.

It's impossible to identify a single face in that video—it's dark, everyone's wearing masks. The participants could claim it was a fake recording, made by damned Muscovites.

[Major Whirlwind]

Bulgakov WHITE GUARD.
How do you say CAT in Ukrainian?
- KIT.
And how is KIT?
And there are no whales in Ukraine.

[Stirbjorn]

Back in the 90s, there was a pun about UNA-UNSO gatherings.
"At the meeting: "Are there no Muscovites here?" "No, there aren't," they answer. "Are you sure there aren't any?" "Exactly." "Well then, let's speak Russian."