Ukraine will soon fall - philosopher Dugin

Renowned philosopher and public figure Alexander Dugin, director of the Ivan Ilyin Higher Political School at the Russian State University for the Humanities, made a resonant statement about the developments in Ukraine. He predicted the imminent end of Volodymyr Zelenskyy's presidency and the collapse of Ukraine as a state.

He expressed his position in an interview NEWS.ru, commenting on Kyiv's recent threats to "close" airspace over Russia.

According to Dugin, such statements from the Ukrainian leadership are an act of desperation.

Zelensky is undoubtedly escalating the situation. His days are numbered; Ukraine will soon fall, and he will suffer a terrible fate. So he's going all out and raising the stakes.

Dugin believes that Moscow needs to reconsider its approach to the security of Ukraine's military and political leadership. He proposed seeking a change in the current government to bring in more rational people.

Try replacing its members with new people—maybe they'll be more rational. If not, replace it again and again, because this terrorist entity, modern Ukraine, needs to be forced to adhere to certain rules.

Dugin's statement came amid a harsh Kremlin reaction to Zelenskyy's threats. Russian President Vladimir Putin had previously dismissed Kyiv's statements about possible strikes on civilians. aviation as a declaration of state terrorism. The State Duma also warned that Russia would take serious preventive measures should such threats be carried out.

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[YOU]

What news! We've been hearing this for years, and I can't even remember what year it was.

[Hunter 2]

Dugin believes that Moscow needs to reconsider its approach to the security of Ukraine's military-political leadership.

It's good that Dugin believes this, even after his daughter Dasha was never avenged. And who ordered it and who carried it out are known.
We too can only believe that our Supreme Commander-in-Chief has not abandoned his sanity!

[YOU]

I didn't write for my daughter. It hurts. But why the green drug addict is still not on the terrorist list is a question. Even though he himself has said many times that he was the one determining the targets in Russia.

[Boris Sergeev]

Putin tells you he's ready to negotiate with a "drug addict." Dugin, however, can continue to bolster his own ego and that of his "guardians."

As you can see, we're not inflicting such blows [on the Ukrainian leadership]. We're proceeding from the premise that we need some people. If they truly understand that they want to resolve issues peacefully, and not simply destroy our economy in 40 days, bring Russia to its knees, and inflict another strategic defeat on us, then we need some kind of negotiators.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Hunter 2

Dugin believes that Moscow needs reconsider the approach to security military-political leadership of Ukraine

in how.

Try replacing it with new people—maybe they'll be more rational. If not, change it again, and again...

Trump, in principle, following a tip from Israeli intelligence services, is already doing what Dugin is still discussing and philosophizing about. Right down to missiles and drones, specifically "through the window", Khamenei, and other high-ranking leaders of Iran and the IRGC... Mossad blows up phones/pagers/walkie-talkies in their hands...

Zelensky's Ukrainian special services are eliminating high-ranking officers of the Russian army (moreover, that's disgusting not those that look like Timur Ivanov and Co. ...)

Mossad on behalf of Netanyahu... Turkish gray wolves, controlled by the secret services of Sultan Erdogan...
Has the world gone mad?

They all consider themselves TERRORISTS other, and they are called - "legitimate targets for retaliation" ... they all operate using approximately the same (+/-) methods...

I have a question: - "So what's the difference between all of them?!"

Or is the one who shouts first and loudest the others right? "terrorist", the first to take out a pistol and fire a shot?!

[Grim Reaper]

My question is: - "So what is the difference between all of them?!"
...
By right of the strong.
If I remember correctly, they take this in the first year.
Of course they don't teach it at school.

[GueST90]

Dugin probably smokes the same thing as Medvedev.

[snow mountain]

Quote: GueST90

Dugin probably smokes the same thing as Medvedev.

They drink from the same trough!

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Dugin believes that Moscow needs to reconsider its approach to the security of Ukraine's military-political leadership.

Here, Dugin's opinion contradicts the President's. Putin responded to the proposal to attack the Ukrainian leadership in Bishkek, saying "We need to preserve them so that we have someone to negotiate peace with."...
And then, answering the next question from journalists, he said that "Nobody negotiates with terrorists"...
These two opposing statements were made one after the other, and at the same press conference.
And how to understand this?

[Metallurg_2]

In psychiatry, this has a specific name: schizophasia.

[trromar]

Alaudin also said that it would all be over by the end of 2024. Medvedev recently mentioned 90 days, I think; there was an article here. And Putin said in Frunze that he's completing the SVO.

[Pereira]

It could have ended at 24 if not for fools, cowards and traitors.

[Plate]

13th, I think. Starting in 2014.

[Fitter65]

Quote: YOU

What news! We've been hearing this for years, and I can't even remember what year it was.

Yes, as soon as Ukraine became independent... But on the other hand, something 404 has been fluttering for a long time now.

[Alexander_K]

The Kremlin recently announced a planned completion date for the Second World War: 2030, with a possible shift to the right. The president ordered the current offensive tempo to be maintained, and for those who didn't understand, he clarified: not to increase it. Peskov later elaborated on the degrees of escalation. The opinion of Dugin, or the commentators here, or the entire Russian population is irrelevant. It's strange that Dugin and other seemingly intelligent people don't understand this, don't want to hear it, and can't believe their own eyes when they see what's happening.

[Alexander Odintsov]

Until now, the Kremlin hasn't set a goal of winning in Ukraine. They're simply stalling for time, awaiting a peace agreement with the West. That's why they put so much faith in Anchorage. The only thing stopping us from fighting is the money of our oligarchs, and even ordinary officials, "stuck" in the West. They're pressuring the country's leadership or simply working against us. The Kremlin is caught between three fires: the people and the army, Western "partners," and pro-Western elites dating back to the 90s. Moscow understands that all of Ukraine's fertile land has been bought up by US transnational corporations (Ukrainian grain has long been American), and all of its resources have been given to the US under the "resource deal" with Trump.
How will the US export grain from Ukraine without bridges and proper rail service? And the fact that we're preserving things there—not just bridges, ports, and railway stations, but some infrastructure—is only to avoid offending what they call our "partner." And the grain deal, which may have involved the import of heavy weapons by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, is in the same vein.

[Romeo]

Our management should be listening. Everyone's tired of waiting for the drug addict and company to finally be turned into dust.

[Mouse]

Try to change its composition to new people - maybe they will be more rational

With our consent... Whom shall we prefer...

[Hiller]

We can make declarations, but how quickly this happens depends entirely on the soldiers and commanders at the LBS. Only they decide. NO ONE else. The main thing is that politicians don't interfere.

[trromar]

It's about 900-1000 km to Chop—that's 70-80 years, at the current rate of 10-12 km per year to the west; the LBS was moved 60 km west of Donetsk, in about 5 years.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: trromar

The LBS was moved 60 km west of Donetsk, in about 5 years.

If you drill concrete with a wood drill, it will stay that way until you change it to the right one.

[Essex62]

Unfortunately, the West has more money, a more powerful industry, and finding enough thugs around the planet is no problem at all. This music could last forever, if they keep pushing it out.

[Bayun]

Some very, very Big game is going on.

In Birmingham, England, they're banning the English flag. In Germany, Moors are allowed to rape German women. In Rus', near Moscow, there are classes where the boys are 10 Tajiks, 5 from the Caucasus, and 3 Russians. WHO NEEDS THIS? The Khazars? I seriously doubt it. Englishmen, Germans, and Russians are much easier to control than Somalis, Moors, and Tajiks.

I understand that the world's waters are being muddyed by offspring Austrian counts and Japanese princesses, as well as children from marriages Western bankers and Soviet intelligence officers, etc. "rootless cosmopolitans".

But why the process of degradation of white civilization was launched throughout the entire northern hemisphere of the planet, my mind is not sufficient to understand.

P.S.: Who's on this planet Could he bend the Khazars and the Kahal? No one comes to mind except the "reptilians." Seriously.

[nepunamemuk]

Europeans are descendants of Neanderthals
maybe they want to exterminate them completely...

[Bayun]

And why are the "Great Russians" and "Ancient Ukrainians" here? the rear? For us, the most powerful and the best Why these "Neanderthal" showdowns?

[nepunamemuk]

Well, all "Russians" are also white Europeans.

[Bayun]

We, the Chud, are dissenters.

[nepunamemuk]

"Reptilians" haven't had time to "analyze" you yet, so they've classified you as European based on your skin color.

[Bayun]

We Tatars are Avatars,
Until the end of Manvantara.
If suddenly Kali Yuga,
Whatever, we're off to the Taiga)))

[NakedMan]

Almost everyone has Neanderthal genes - Europeans, Blacks, and Chinese, except for South Africans.

[NakedMan]

Quote: Bayun

But why the process of degradation of white civilization was launched throughout the entire northern hemisphere of the planet, my mind is not sufficient to understand.

It's the same thing. Our species isn't designed to survive in today's comfortable conditions, and our reproductive program is failing.

[Bayun]

The hypothesis is sound. We've exceeded the limits of our inherent "animality," and Nature itself is strangling us, according to the laws of biology. Quite logical and plausible.

[solar]

Zelensky is undoubtedly escalating the situation. His days are numbered; Ukraine will soon fall, and a terrible fate will befall him.

It's been five years since... :((...

[Wildcat]

"Alexander Gelyevich Dugin actually has several dissertations - a doctoral dissertation (2011, Rostov-on-Don). Topic: "Transformation of the social structure of society in the context of the sociology of imagination" Specialty: 22.00.04 - Social structure, social institutions and processes. Scientific adviser - Yu. G. Volkov. Place of defense - council D212.208.01 at the IPPK FGAOU HPE "Southern Federal University".
"...in the context of the sociology of imagination." - and you can't argue with that!

[Melior]

The influence of the northern lights on the polar bear's menstrual cycle!

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Ukrajina se pomalu hroutí, souhlasím s panem Duginem. Také souhlasím s jeho názorem, který prezentoval jinde, že Rusko musí osvobodit celou Ukrajinu, pokud ji chce zachránit pro Ukrajince a samozřejmě pro lepší vztahy s Ruskem. Bude též nutné, aby nové vedení Ukrajiny nebylo už nikdy napojeno na nacistický západ, jen tak oběti Ruských vojáků nebudou zbytečné. Prostě Ukrajina musí být zbavena nacismu už navždy a vraždění Bandery, Šuchewyče a dalších nacistů minulosti musí být odsouzeny a historie Ukrajiny musí být opravena, hlavně pro mladou generaci! Jinak se nacismus bude opakovat.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Ukraine is slowly collapsing. I agree with Mr. Dugin. I also agree with his opinion, which he expressed elsewhere, that Russia must liberate all of Ukraine if it wants to preserve it for Ukrainians and, of course, to improve relations with Russia. It is also essential that Ukraine's new leadership never again associate itself with the Nazi West; only then will the sacrifices of Russian soldiers not be in vain. Ukraine must simply be forever liberated from Nazism. The murders of Bandera, Shukhevych, and other Nazis of the past must be condemned, and Ukraine's history must be corrected, especially for the younger generation! Otherwise, Nazism will repeat itself.

[Essex62]

There is no such thing as Ukraine, and there never was. It was part of the Russian Empire, and later a republic within the USSR. It is Russian land. There is no separate statehood. You in Europe can split off into separate principalities. We can't do that; our territories are so vast that they cannot be held without centralization.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Souhlasim. Celá nacistická Evropa už se chystá na zakázky na zničené Ukrajině, jenže nebude nikdo, kdo by tu obnovu platil, protože na Ukrajině bude pánem Rusko. Myslím, že nakonec obnova Ukrajinu stejně připadne Rusku a to bude pro to území i lidi nejlepší řešení, i když to nepůjde moc rychle.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

I agree. All of Nazi Europe is already preparing to take on contracts to rebuild the devastated Ukraine, but there will be no one to pay for the reconstruction because Russia will become the master of Ukraine. I think that in the end, Ukraine's reconstruction will still fall to Russia, and that will be the best solution for the territory and the people, even if it takes time.

[Bayun]

The hard facts. The Russian Empire – no, the Union – no. The Russian Federation – yes. History – Alexander's opinion, the score is 2:1 in favor of history.

P.S.: I would be sincerely glad if, in our lifetime, the Russian Federation were to consolidate into a New Union and at least even the score in the "historical series."

[Essex62]

Everything is in its place. The buffer zones have temporarily fallen away. Well, that's inevitable when bad boys come to power.

The Russians will definitely equalize the score and will definitely take the lead.

[Pur Navolok]

I agree, but you're far removed from our domestic realities. You should know "Mr. Dugin." This gentleman once successfully collaborated with such odious figures as the Ukrainian Nazi Korchinsky (who fought against federal troops in Chechnya and is currently wanted) and the scumbag Arestovich. He also reveres fascist philosophers such as Ilyin, Shmelev, and Kartashov.

[Alexey G]

Ilyin was not a fascist...

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

Ilyin was not a fascist...

What would you call him? A patriot of one nationality?

[Alexey G]

He is Russian! He was and remains Russian! A Russian patriot.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

He is Russian! He was and remains Russian! A Russian patriot.

Me too, although I don't share his views... yes, in some places he's right, but only in some places... or are all those who don't think like him the wrong kind of patriots? It's not such a simple question... which patriot is a real one... after all, Hitler was also an ardent patriot of Germany...

[Alexey G]

I have read Ilyin, have you?
Calling Ilyin a fascist is a very controversial statement.
In none of his works did the philosopher directly identify himself with the fascists.
Ilyin was an ideologist of the White movement. Find me his work where he calls himself a fascist? Otherwise, it's all just simplification and gossip.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

I have read Ilyin, have you?

I read it. But even Hitler called himself a National Socialist, not a fascist... and no one ever calls themselves a fascist.

Quote: Alexey G

He criticized German National Socialism, considering it criminal, and advocated for the victory of the Allies over the Reich.

Yes, I wrote earlier that if he is for the Russians, it does not mean that nationalist ideas were not dominant in him... The RNE also shouted slogans for the Russians and gave the Nazi salute... I am not a supporter of the idea that if you are a patriot, then any ideas are forgivable... even fascist ones...

[Alexey G]

Neither Ilyin nor Dugin ever expressed fascist ideas or called for genocide. Attempts to silence Ilyin have a certain unpleasant odor.
Ilyin wanted Russia, like Dugin, to be strong, based on the Orthodox faith.
Apparently not everyone in Russia wants this.
Some want a Russia that is weak and morally decayed. But these are the enemies.

[Alexey G]

But even Hitler called himself a National Socialist, not a fascist...

In 1931, Hitler used the word "fascists" in an open letter as a synonym for "National Socialists." These terms are very close, although different. Hitler was a supporter of racial superiority. Ilyin and Dugin had no such idea.

No one ever calls themselves fascists

You are not right!
Mussolini formulated and propagated fascist ideas, for example, in the “Doctrine of Fascism”!!!

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

Ilyin and Dugin had no such idea.

1. In 1927, Ilyin published an article, "On Russian Fascism," which was addressed to "my white brothers, the fascists." There he also stated that he didn't care about non-whites and had no intention of looking at the situation from their perspective.
2. He wrote enthusiastically about Mussolini, calling him a wonderful man and the soul of fascism.
3. In his texts, he extolled the traits of totalitarian regimes: discipline, patriotism, the cult of national unity, and sacrificial service to the leader, which he called positive and healthy principles. This is exactly what he described as the Third Reich, which he admired...
4. Maybe he later became disillusioned with fascism, especially when they fired him from his job, but before that, he clearly sympathized with it.

As for Dugin, the reason is his article "Fascism—Boundless and Red." There, he openly wrote about the need to create "genuine, real, radically revolutionary, and consistent fascism, fascist fascism." Does this mean he has nothing to do with fascism? In the 90s, he was one of the leading figures among the National Bolsheviks (nationalists with a leftist leaning). Regarding Ukraine, he declared that Ukrainians should be "killed, killed, and killed" simply because they were Ukrainians. In 2009, Dugin proposed the concept of the "Fourth Political Theory," which he positions as a post-liberal and post-fascist alternative—in essence, a slightly modified version of the Third Reich's ideology—to rise above the world after defeat as the chosen race...
And after all this, you say, nothing fascist? And I didn't just draw my own conclusions, I based them on THEIR words. And now, Dugin seems to be trying to put it more gently, but the paper remembers everything, and after 30, people don't change.

Quote: Alexey G

Mussolini formulated and propagated fascist ideas, for example, in the “Doctrine of Fascism”!!!

Only one agreed... Mussolini... the rest tried not to say it directly...

[Alexey G]

but in essence it is a slightly modified ideology of the Third Reich - to rise above the world after defeat, as a chosen race...

Well, that's just your interpretation. What is "essentially"? That's your conclusion.
The fourth political theory can be looked at differently.
Dugin believes the previous three theories have exhausted themselves and are incapable of addressing modern challenges. His "fourth theory" must become a fundamentally different political paradigm.
In liberalism, the individual is the primary subject; in Marxism, the class; in fascism, the nation. Dugin proposes making the subject of politics not these categories, but primarily ethnicity and civilization.
What is civilization? It's not a race, not a nation, but a group of peoples united by historical destiny, shared cultural traits, and traditions. Where is the Reich here? Only Germans were supposed to live well in the Reich.
His theory is based on the idea of ​​a plurality of civilizations and a multipolar world: instead of a single “universal” development model (promoted by liberalism), there should be different civilizational projects that preserve their traditions and values.
Fascism and National Socialism are closest to liberalism, strange as it may sound. Their shared ideals are chauvinism, the superiority of whites over blacks, or Aryans over Slavs. The idea of ​​multipolarity is impossible without respect for other peoples! It leads not to the Reich, but to the fight against globalism, which is backed by liberalism and its friend, fascism!
Read Dugin's works on geopolitics! He writes about this clearly there.

[2 Level Advisor]

1. Well, let's change the word "race" in fascism to the words "ethnicity and civilization"... it will be roughly the same thing... it will still be about destroying them all, because they are wrong if they do not want to behave as they should... order, loyalty to the cause, uniqueness, a willingness to die...
2. Dugin openly draws on the works of philosophers who were active supporters of Nazism, such as Martin Heidegger and Carl Schmitt, yet this may not be connected to Nazism.
3. While he rejects biological hierarchies based on race, he doesn't reject hierarchical relationships in general, but those based on denying certain communities the right to exist as an "ethnic group"—Ukraine, for example, which he called for everyone to be literally exterminated in 2014. Calling for the extermination of EVERYONE in a given territory is pure fascism. Who decides what constitutes an ethnic group—they themselves or other ethnic groups? If others do, that means denying them the right to consider themselves as such.
Accordingly, he essentially now represents the same thing, but “in a white uniform, not a black one,” since “the fight is right, for a good goal.”

Quote: Alexey G

It does not lead to the Reich, but to the fight against globalism, behind which stands liberalism and its friend fascism!

How is this not a Reich? It's precisely a Reich, but a Reich whose stated goal is to fight globalism... and if it defeats globalism, it will essentially become a globalist... but a "proper Reich"...
Personally, I'm not against the fight against globalism, but Dugin, in his fourth theory, still often talks about the exclusivity of peoples (which is the idea of ​​​​fascism), but not by race - which is not such a big difference.. It's still about exclusivity. Don't you want the word fascism? Okay.. But nationalism is undeniable here.. And from it to fascism is half a step... Let me remind you - there were such national socialists... and at first their ideas were not at all fascist.. in the beginning.. Besides, where does his theory lead? Who can be considered an ethnic group - in other parts of the world? For example, there are just two neighboring countries. Let's say Albania and Montenegro, Switzerland and Belgium, etc. - is this one ethnic group? They will be against it. Accordingly, almost all countries of the world will declare - we are each a separate ethnic group.. And then what? What is the new order of the world, if they already think so?

[Alexey G]

Dear Nikolai, you misunderstood. We're talking about the formation of a polycentric world with many centers of power. This is a coexistence of civilizations that presupposes mutual recognition, not the dominance of one over all. If we're talking about dominance, then there can be no polycentricity. Globalists, however, are bluntly saying that the entire world must submit to the West, and that this is chauvinism, Western centrism, racism, Nazism, and so on.
Dugin takes a different approach. There are many centers of power, and all of them have a right to exist, but they also, of course, compete and vie for influence. Among them, of course, is Russia, the Russian world, which, like the US, India, China, Iran, the EU, and others, has its own interests, views, goals, and priorities!
Dugin proposed uniting Russia and Germany to create a powerful Eurasian super-civilization. But the Anglo-Saxons have historically opposed this! The struggle with the Anglo-Saxons is geopolitical in nature. It is civilizational, and it implies the defeat of one side or the other. But Russia, in his view, is the side of light, goodness, and love.
Russia is GOD'S WISH, and it is obliged to win this historic battle between land and sea. If you understand the terms!
Yes, he believes that Ukraine is part of Russia and not an independent civilization. It can exist independently, but only in peace with Russia. Isn't that true?

[Alexey G]

Dugin stands for a strong Russian civilization. If you are against this and consider any empire a Reich, then is the USSR also a Reich in your opinion?
Think about it. Is the USA also the Reich?

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

Dugin stands for a strong Russian civilization. If you are against this and consider any empire a Reich, then is the USSR also a Reich in your opinion?
Think about it. Is the USA also the Reich?

Why would I consider any empire a Reich? For me, the Reich is when an empire is built on the theory of the exceptionalism of the people living in this empire. The United States, with its multiculturalism and the absence of one "main" nationality, is not suitable at all. The Russian Empire - not either.. and the USSR.. They never declared, and no one did, that they were a civilization opposed to the whole world.. Even Rome did not declare it, although one could say it was a civilization.. For me, Russia is just a country.. big, good and special - because mine.. But it does not conduct any "sacred confrontations", but simply a country.. Because prescribing a special exceptionalism for Russia in the world is all shades of nationalism and fascism, that we are "special", not like the rest of the world... we are ordinary.. both inside and out, the same as Pablo from Mexico or John from the USA.. Character - yes, special, like John and Pablo, with their pros and cons, but not "residents of a sacred common planetary territory", but simply residents of their country... a little grotesque Of course, but I'm talking about this...

[Alexey G]

this is when an empire is built on the theory of the exceptionalism of the people living in this empire

The United States and the entire West are built on the idea of ​​exceptionalism. Hitler was no accident. He was a product of the West, and enjoyed Western support for a time. Fascism also emerged in the West. Zelenskyy, with his Bandera-ism, is a pure product of the West.
Multiculturalism is a fairy tale; in reality, the West is about the dominance of white masters over non-whites, of the developed over the backward.

[Alexey G]

In 1927, Ilyin published an article “On Russian Fascism”

Excuse me, but it was 1927!!! The civil war had just ended. The repressions against the Whites. It's clear the philosopher was looking for a tool to fight the Bolsheviks! Hitler hadn't even come to power in 27! At that time, this phenomenon hadn't been studied yet. It hadn't been understood, and when it did, you yourself admit he "became disillusioned with fascism"!

patriotism, the cult of national unity and sacrificial service to the leader,

So what? Is this a call to kill Jews or Caucasians?
Well, you're eyeing the toilet, aren't you?
When the idea of ​​fascism was born, many people mistakenly sympathized with it, understanding it in their own way.
Ilyin is the philosopher our president reads!
Wake up. Our libraries don't display works by fascists! And Ilyin wasn't one!

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

So what? Is this a call to kill Jews or Caucasians?

No, this is fanaticism, I can’t stand it in any form... just like the concept of “Leader” (in German, by the way, it’s Führer).

Quote: Alexey G

Ilyin is the philosopher our president reads!

It happens... I also read a lot of people... for me, he is the President of Russia, and not My Leader, so for me it doesn’t carry much weight, although it does provide elements for understanding VVP’s thoughts...

[Alexey G]

You're not very well-prepared with the terminology. Fanaticism is not the same as fascism. Fanaticism is inherent in many religions, for example, and even sports fans, and yet they are not fascists.

It happens... I read a lot of people too.

Not only reads, but also quotes!

[Alexey G]

During World War II, Ilyin adopted a consistently anti-Nazi stance. He criticized German National Socialism, considering it criminal, and advocated for the Allies' victory over the Reich.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey G

and advocated for the Allies' victory over the Reich.

He never advocated for this...

Quote: Alexey G

During World War II, Ilyin took a consistently anti-Nazi stance. He criticized German National Socialism, considering it criminal.

His entire position was subordinated to a single goal—the fight against the communist regime in the USSR, and nothing else. He would support any force that he believed could crush it. And his refusal to cooperate militarily with Hitler in 1943 wasn't due to his rejection of fascism, but to the fact that he saw it as no less an enemy of "historical Russia" than Bolshevism. That is, not at all because he found fascism unacceptable. He even wrote an article in 1941 advising the Germans on how to capture Leningrad more quickly.

[Alexey G]

Can I have some proof? I really want to see where this is written.
You yourself write that you supported any force, but then what does it have to do with being a supporter of fascism?
The US also supported the Taliban in the war with the USSR, so what are they, Taliban?
Many White generals sympathized with the Germans, but saw them as a means to return to Russia and rebuild it, and not as an establishment of German domination over Russia.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Ano, neznám Dugina tak jako vy! Spíše jsem četl názory jeho dcery Darji a byl jsem nadšený, jak je chytrá a inteligentní. Často na ni myslím, jak byl k ní osud nespravedlivý.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Yes, I don't know Dugin as well as you do! Rather, I read his daughter Daria's reviews and was delighted by how smart and quick-witted she is. I often think about her and how unfair fate has been to her.

[Pur Navolok]

You are right, I feel very sorry for my daughter, she was a kind girl.

[drags33]

The death throes of this green bastard are very reminiscent of Hitler's death throes in 1945... The same speeches, divorced from reality, the mobilization of women and youth, lies about successes at the front, and so on. And the end of the Ukrainian Nazi will be the same as the German one...

[Earl]

The genital pianist is too cowardly to shoot himself, but this gives him hope that he will eventually be drowned in a cesspool.

[UAZ 452]

Well, if this Ilyin admirer, who was once called nothing less than a "Russian fascist," said that Ukraine is about to meet its end, then that must be true. Probably.

[Dart2027]

Quote: UAZ 452

who at one time was called nothing less than a "Russian fascist"

But Hitler was a National Socialist. And the fascism Ilyin espoused isn't what people mean today, so it's a primitive misrepresentation.
And yes, I know that at first he supported Hitler, but it was only for a very short time.

[UAZ 452]

And the fascism that Ilyin supported is not what they mean now, so this is a primitive substitution of concepts.

So, did Ilyin support "proper" fascism? Or was he "a bit" a fascist? I won't even comment.
Incidentally, after the end of World War II, when the Cold War was already underway, he called on the United States and the entire Western world to launch a nuclear bombing of the USSR, considering the deaths of millions of Russians an acceptable price for the destruction of Bolshevism. I found a direct quote from his "philosophical works" on this topic. These are the heroes modern Russia has, the ones after whom schools are named. And even more surprising is that the admirers and followers of such figures, in their words, are at the forefront of the fight against Ukrainian fascism.

[Dart2027]

Quote: UAZ 452

So, did Ilyin support "proper" fascism? Or was he "a bit" a fascist? I won't even comment.

That is, there is nothing to say.

Quote: UAZ 452

And by the way, after the end of World War II, when the Cold War was already underway, he called on the United States and the entire Western world to begin a nuclear bombing of the USSR

Please provide a link to where he wrote this?

[Pur Navolok]

I don’t trust a person who at one time collaborated with the Ukrainian Nazi Korchinsky and Arestovich, I just can’t trust him, no matter how pleasant his thoughts are to the ear and that’s it!

[Earl]

The State Duma also warned that Russia would take serious preventative measures if such threats were attempted to be carried out.

Preventative measures are taken in advance, before any drug-related threats are carried out. Perhaps the State Duma simply doesn't understand the meaning of the word "preventative"?

[Million]

This philosopher's opinion is of little interest to anyone. There are many such predictors these days.

[Anthony]

Since 2014, they've been talking about an imminent collapse. Remember the cartoon about the three freezing, shivering characters from a famous cartoon, remade in a modern way (like, "We'll shut off the gas, the oil, and everything else")? They've been feeding us nonsense for 12,5 years now. Meanwhile, yesterday I saw a video about September 1st in Kyiv: fountains, ice cream, people strolling, public transportation running smoothly, traffic jams, tons of people strolling, entertainment...

[Sergey Mitinsky]

There is concrete evidence behind Dugin's words
It is necessary to destroy them personally, as Israel and the United States do, and such an opportunity will soon present itself.
Satellite tracking and physical destruction wherever they are
It is clear that they too will have this opportunity with the help of our Western "partners"
But in this case, the "partners" won't feel safe either.
Soon it will all be over, all these yachting and other social events.
Everyone will sit in bunkers
In the meantime, we need to destroy them so that there is no crap left of them.

[Fangaro]

Философия.
Personal opinion...
This is the voicing of theoretically possible events in real society on the assumption that they will occur at a certain time with a certain intensity and with a certain confrontation of opponents.
Are there any philosophers in history who, during their lifetime, significantly changed the rights, duties, and responsibilities of groups of people in their country?

[Fangaro]

Quote: Sergey Mitinsky

There is concrete evidence behind Dugin's words
It is necessary to destroy them personally, as Israel and the United States do, and such an opportunity will soon present itself.
Satellite tracking and physical destruction wherever they are
It is clear that they too will have this opportunity with the help of our Western "partners"
But in this case, the "partners" won't feel safe either.
Soon it will all be over, all these yachting and other social events.
Everyone will sit in bunkers
In the meantime, we need to destroy them so that there is no crap left of them.

Wonderful comment!
Will everyone sit in bunkers?
And those who don’t have bunkers will wander around the nuclear ashes?

[Sergey Mitinsky]

Continuing on this topic, I would like to say the following:

Zelensky now personifies the madman Hitler, who resisted to the last and, through his efforts, prolonged the war for at least a year, destroying his country and losing the original German lands.

The question is, was it possible to avoid this?

Possibly. The failed assassination attempt in the spring of 1944 and the subsequent unrealized plan of the German conspirators, who conducted separate negotiations with the Allies. The plan called for concentrating all German divisions on the Eastern Front and opening the Allies an unimpeded road to Berlin.

Churchill was delighted with this decision, but again, Hitler and his police apparatus prevented it from being implemented.

In the end, the Red Army took Berlin and we have to admit that the possessed Fuhrer played for Stalin and for the USSR

Today, Ukraine has a powerful opposition to Zelensky, represented by prominent figures and their entourage. This opposition is promoting a Western plan that calls for what they call a complete ceasefire. This plan calls for concessions to Russia regarding the Donbas, something Zelensky and the Nazis, represented by the army of Stepan Bandera's heirs, so fiercely resist.

In this case, Russia should give them a chance to be destroyed on the battlefield rather than help the opposition.

The West and this opposition's plan is a second Minsk, and it will not end well for Russia.

[Sergey Novikov_3]

Well, yes. "Carthage will be destroyed."

[Alexey G]

Ukraine will soon fall

We'll see. I wouldn't criticize Gelyevich. He lost his daughter. He's for Russia. And he's one of the ideologists of our victory.
What he said, even if it is not true, must be done for the information war, because the West keeps saying that Russia has lost.
We must respond to this nonsense.
And indeed, the Ukrainians are in trouble. Without the Patriots Pack 3, they're in trouble and will get worse!
Sure, they're attacking, but they're doing it bare-assed! And it won't end well. We'll give them a beating like a boxer going into a fight with his hands down!

[Ed Mac]

The "ideologist of victory" can also be harmful. For example, people need to pull themselves together and make some changes in their lives, otherwise they risk falling, and he's like, "We're winning!"
Victory is the result of hard work. Hard work is needed in many ways. For example, Russia protects the children of Donbas, yet high-level government officials have been unable to decide for years which is more valuable: stray dogs or children. Burmatov created laws whose enforcement puts people's lives at risk, and almost every year children are killed by dogs, yet the law continues to be stubbornly enforced. Punishing Burmatov and protecting children from dogs could also contribute to victory. But instead, people observe the helplessness of the families of the dead children and draw conclusions... This is hardly a rallying cry for the nation.

[GMV]

For example, people need to pull themselves together, change something in their lives, otherwise they risk falling, and he says: "We are winning!"...

Eva! Where is it that's not the case with us? It seems like people are different, and they're all for their country, and their ideas for improvement (simplification) are in their minds and clearly expressed in society, and the mood is positive! ... but look – we're all falling into the same trap! In the West, they think logically and adapt well, but here... it's the eternal "stealing, fools, and roads." Half of Europe openly declares that they're at war with us, Japan and South Korea are still against us, and we dream of BMWs and Land Cruisers. Is this how victory is forged in people's heads?

[Alexey G]

"The ideologist of victory" can also cause harm.

It can't! Faith in our victory strengthens the people and lets the enemy know that this faith is strong.

Victory is the result of labor. Labor is required in many ways.

Victory is the result of struggle. Even labor in peacetime is debatable.
And struggle requires not only truth but also an element of fiction. War is the path of deception. Read Sun Tzu!

[vvnab]

Alexander Gelyevich, of course, is a great scientist!

[Word]

Alexander Dugin is a man with a capital "M." In 14, he suffered for his beliefs (criticizing the government for its inaction on the outskirts of the reunification of the LPR/DPR with Russia). He was asked to leave Moscow State University, but at least he didn't end up in jail.

[Voskolina]

We have a Kibalchish boy. Who is responsible for nothing. But he does have a "strange military secret."
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/1105913695655790465

[Ed Mac]

Dugin based his prediction ("it will soon fall") on just one factor (Zelensky's threat to aviation). He saw this as an "act of desperation." This seems somewhat incompetent given the abundance of other factors.
1 - A significant buildup of drones by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Hundreds of drones are already being reported on certain days.
2 - Moscow's loss of initiative. Zelenskyy makes a move, and Moscow reacts. Sometimes the reaction is strange. For example, Zelenskyy achieved a large quantity and quality of drones, then Shoigu noticed this and officially declared that "all regions of Russia are in danger." The Russian government began blocking the internet and cracking down on Telegram instead of rapidly developing air defenses.
And if we take into account these few facts, what will be the forecast?

[Goffman]

Time will tell. It looks like both sides are in for a fun winter. The quantity of missiles and drones in a single salvo is already turning into quality. Both sides have already acquired the ability to seriously harm the other. For now, waves of strikes aren't daily, apparently – they're getting their bearings, eyeing up hits, stockpiling missiles and drones... tensely waiting... but with the first frosts – as the saying goes, "T-shirt over eyes and straight to the finish line" – they'll rush indiscriminately, pounding power plants, gas supplies, fuel, and everything else. Paralyze and freeze. Whoever stops – the first to freeze without power and heat – will sue for peace. It seems strategists on both sides see no other way out of the stalemate of static confrontation; everyone is hoping to take advantage of the cold to shock their opponent.

[Andrey Krutilin]

We will crush the Bandera scum, but why is it taking so long?
It was necessary to immediately declare war and fight with extreme brutality.
The war should have ended long ago with our victory and fewer casualties.
at both sides.
No. The President clearly and distinctly stated that we and Ukrainians are one people.
A naive man from the FSB. We are united with the Little Russians.
The bridges and that tunnel are standing. We'll interfere with business.
Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities and should become the capital of friendly Little Russia.

Ukraine is not needed
Little Russia is important
Home to Novorossiya
Down with Westernism

[Roman_4]

Quote: Earl

The genital pianist is too cowardly to shoot himself, but this gives him hope that he will eventually be drowned in a cesspool.

There are enough doubles, Hitler didn’t shoot himself either,
You shouldn't believe everything you read in history.
He was not such a stupid fanatic as to shoot himself at the end of the war.
Staging a suicide solves all problems, no man, no problem.

[Roman_4]

Quote from GMV

For example, people need to pull themselves together, change something in their lives, otherwise they risk falling, and he says: "We are winning!"...

Eva! Where is it that's not the case with us? It seems like people are different, and they're all for their country, and their ideas for improvement (simplification) are in their minds and clearly expressed in society, and the mood is positive! ... but look – we're all falling into the same trap! In the West, they think logically and adapt well, but here... it's the eternal "stealing, fools, and roads." Half of Europe openly declares that they're at war with us, Japan and South Korea are still against us, and we dream of BMWs and Land Cruisers. Is this how victory is forged in people's heads?

What's wrong with captured BMWs and Land Cruisers? Or are you suggesting we fight enemy vehicles as well?

[Roman_4]

Quote: Sergey Mitinsky

There is concrete evidence behind Dugin's words
It is necessary to destroy them personally, as Israel and the United States do, and such an opportunity will soon present itself.
Satellite tracking and physical destruction wherever they are
It is clear that they too will have this opportunity with the help of our Western "partners"
But in this case, the "partners" won't feel safe either.
Soon it will all be over, all these yachting and other social events.
Everyone will sit in bunkers
In the meantime, we need to destroy them so that there is no crap left of them.

They don't want to destroy, either jointly or individually. When asked why, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief said they had to negotiate with someone.
However, if we think about it sensibly, they are giving terrorist orders, meaning they are terrorists. They don't negotiate with terrorists, they destroy them. Even if they are acting on someone else's orders, that doesn't change anything. And if there's a war with the regime, then the first priority is to destroy the regime?
And no one touches the regime, and this regime defends itself with the people it controls. How many more people must be "ground up" to reach a regime with which it can ultimately reach an agreement?
Americans and Israelis are somehow simpler in this regard; they always start from the head, not the tail. But aren't we like that?

[Renat12345]

more rational or more radical?

[Scientist_]

Ukraine will soon fall

We've been hearing this for five years now. But let's face it: this century-long military operation will only end in 95 years.

[sergiogerasimo]

Is this Ilyin, VVP's favorite, who admired Hitler and his regime? And Dugin is his follower?

[jovanni]

Zelensky is undoubtedly escalating the situation. His days are numbered; Ukraine will soon fall, and a terrible fate will befall him.

Yeah. Numbered. It's just that we've been counting for five years now. We've lost count... And the Chief Warden says we're leaving the management alone because there'll be no one to negotiate with... We're protecting the ghouls. So, counting his days is impossible...

[Zaurbek]

It's in a parallel reality. 404 will exist in its current state (adjusted for the LBS boundaries) only as long as it receives funding and supplies from the EU and US. And for them, that's both profitable and wonderful. And at the current rate, 404's mobilization potential will last for another five years. But this won't affect the number of drones in any way.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

Dudin is a philosopher like me, the president of the star Jupiter.

[ZnachWest]

"The speaker cryptically spun the well-known." But "soon"—how many parsecs is that?

[Idle_piston]

Ukraine will soon fall - philosopher Dugin

The Kremlin's propaganda elite has a new standard for measuring time: SOON.

[guest]

Dugin believes that Moscow needs to reconsider its approach to the security of Ukraine's military-political leadership.

Here I agree with him 200%.

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

Quote: Nemchinov Vl

Quote: Hunter 2

Dugin believes that Moscow needs reconsider the approach to security military-political leadership of Ukraine

in how.

Try replacing it with new people—maybe they'll be more rational. If not, change it again, and again...

Trump, in principle, following a tip from Israeli intelligence services, is already doing what Dugin is still discussing and philosophizing about. Right down to missiles and drones, specifically "through the window", Khamenei, and other high-ranking leaders of Iran and the IRGC... Mossad blows up phones/pagers/walkie-talkies in their hands...

Zelensky's Ukrainian special services are eliminating high-ranking officers of the Russian army (moreover, that's disgusting not those that look like Timur Ivanov and Co. ...)

Mossad on behalf of Netanyahu... Turkish gray wolves, controlled by the secret services of Sultan Erdogan...
Has the world gone mad?

They all consider themselves TERRORISTS other, and they are called - "legitimate targets for retaliation" ... they all operate using approximately the same (+/-) methods...

I have a question: - "So what's the difference between all of them?!"

Or is the one who shouts first and loudest the others right? "terrorist", the first to take out a pistol and fire a shot?!

Jews and Americans reason very simply: anything that serves their interests is legal. It doesn't matter what interests, as long as it serves them.

[Lexeus]

And if he doesn't fall, and if not soon, what will Dugin do then? How will he answer for his words?

[Vinchi]

Khokhlism is ineradicable... Russia has been eradicating Khokhlism for centuries, but there are no visible results yet.

[gridasov]

Russia's most dangerous enemy is Russia in its system of control and distribution. Currently, this system determines the motivation of various social groups, and most importantly, young people with their innovative and creative approaches to solving pressing problems. Therefore, I would like to highlight Ukraine's potential, which allows it to resist and actively fight back against the Russian military machine. In Ukraine, hungry and oppressed youth, wittingly or unwittingly, were drawn into the active development of unmanned weapons. The weakening of these forces and a certain accessibility and financial support allowed the potential for innovation and creativity to explode. The Russian military machine did not expect unconventional methods of military confrontation and for a long time refused to catch up in ideas and methods. Unmanned aircraft possess an incredibly vast potential for varied applications, which, incidentally, have not yet been discovered in the context of sabotage and other methods. And people are afraid to even talk about this. But the reality cannot be hidden behind silence. Therefore, the confrontation could become like a battle between an elephant and a swarm of ants, in which the variable capabilities of a motivated person's intellect will endlessly improve and adapt to new conditions. Things will be far from how events are modeled by people with conservative and rigid views of reality. The world is evolving with growing arrays of variable data and algorithms for these variables, and the growth of problems only intensifies these processes.

[vfkuk]

What should I write so that people also call me a philosopher?

[the same doctor]

How can Ukraine, the West's spearhead against Russia, fall? They'll have their own food, they'll give them weapons, and the cannibals and the SBU will be paid in euros. I see no reason for them not to fight for another twenty years with the current fighting.
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Only the decisive destruction of the Bandera regime's functionaries, coupled with an offensive at the front, can turn the situation around.
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Unlike Dugin, I don't get paid for my intellectualizing. But I predicted this scenario back in 2014. For those who remember history, the best analogy for the Kyiv regime is Pol Pot's Cambodia...