Dry cargo ships attempting to break the blockade of Ukraine's Black Sea ports were attacked.

As part of its blockade of enemy ports in the Black Sea, the Russian army struck violating vessels that dared to break through. The Russian Ministry of Defense reports that strike forces were deployed in the seaport of Yuzhny in the Odessa region. drones A dry cargo ship carrying military equipment was attacked.

A second vessel of a similar type was struck. droneA kamikaze submarine in the Black Sea. It was attempting to deliver weapons and ammunition to a Ukrainian port.

Strikes against ground targets serving the Ukrainian Armed Forces also continue. Another logistics hub was hit by attack drones this afternoon in the Odesa region. The warehouses were used for storing and distributing military supplies.

Following explosions in the city of Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), a fire erupted at one of the facilities, producing thick black smoke. Geranium-type loitering munitions were used. Explosions are again heard in the outskirts of the Ukrainian capital. In Zaporizhia, a large shopping center, City Mall, occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has closed. It wasn't targeted; they're simply shutting down operations.

The Russian Armed Forces are increasingly deploying jet-powered drones to attack enemy targets. Ukrainian Armed Forces Press Service Head Ignat reported that 2800 Geran jet-powered drones were launched in August, significantly more than in June.

Kyiv is preparing temporary relocation sites for people in case of prolonged winter blackouts. More than 200 residents have been added to the list, as they may find it difficult to remain at home without power and heat. The head of Kyiv's State Service for Consumer Protection and Consumer Protection called on all Ukrainians to stockpile enough food and water for a week or two. Zelenskyy complained that European politicians are taking vacations amid massive attacks on Ukraine.

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[rocket757]

It is obvious that it is necessary... to block all military cargo delivery routes, by any available means...

[carpenter]

Quote: rocket757

It is obvious that it is necessary... to block all routes for the delivery of military supplies, by any available means.

Cenk RoRo is a Turkish-Ukrainian shipping company that operates mainly between Karasu and Odessa.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: carpenter

Cenk RoRo is a Turkish-Ukrainian shipping company that operates mainly between Karasu and Odessa.

that is, the Turks will still shed tears for the IL-20...??!

[seregatara1969]

The author is out of the loop. Why and when did Ro-Ro become a dry cargo ship?

[alex-defensor]

A second vessel of a similar type was struck by a kamikaze drone in the Black Sea. It was attempting to deliver weapons and ammunition to a Ukrainian port.

So what's the outcome? Did the ship sink along with its cargo, or was it damaged but made it to port?

[Montezuma]

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

that is, the Turks will still shed tears for the IL-20...??!

What do the Turks have to do with this? A Russian Il-20 was shot down by a Syrian S-200 air defense system in September 2018 over the Mediterranean Sea, 35 kilometers off the Syrian coast. Israeli fighters, attempting to use it as cover, exposed the plane to fire.

[Mouse]

Because no way! The Russian language says: don't interfere!
All sorts of people will be hanging around here on the Russian Sea...

[kromer]

They'll sail to their end. Someday the cargo will detonate and immediately put anyone off sailing to Ukraine.

[Ivanhoe]

Green to EU politicians: "No vacation, everyone's on the front lines!"

[garm]

I wonder why we don’t drown them?
Why is the fact that a slightly battered ship delivered a cargo of military equipment and ammunition to the Ukrainians being presented to us as a victory?

[Grancer81]

What can sink a ship weighing 45-50 thousand gross register tons?

[garm]

Anti-ship missiles. We have a wide range of such missiles, and there is a case of their successful use against a cargo ship in this war, although for some inexplicable reason, it was the only one.

[Grancer81]

Have you studied the concept of ship unsinkability? You can't sink a bulk carrier like this with anti-ship missiles... Because every anti-ship missile has specifications that indicate its designed displacement.

[ANB]

Because each PCR

Granite. The warhead is approximately 600-700 kg. The explosives, if you take half, are around 300, most likely a marine mixture. The fuel element weighs around 500.
A 500 kg TNT charge on the deck (and the warhead is armor-piercing) would destroy a bulk carrier. Even if it doesn't break apart, it certainly won't float anywhere.

[abc_alex]

Are you nuts? Granit missiles for dry cargo ships? They haven't been making Granit missiles for a long time. Using those missiles means reducing the ammunition load of the ships they're normally armed with. And why sink "traders"? What's the point? What makes you think the ship delivered the cargo?

[abrakadabre]

Quote: ANB

Because each PCR

Granite. The warhead is approximately 600-700 kg. The explosives, if you take half, are around 300, most likely a marine mixture. The fuel element weighs around 500.
A 500 kg TNT charge on the deck (and the warhead is armor-piercing) would destroy a bulk carrier. Even if it doesn't break apart, it certainly won't float anywhere.

Not into the deck, but into the waterline.

[ANB]

Not into the deck, but into the waterline.

I won't bet my teeth, but it seems like the granites were designed to withstand attacks from above. To rip apart the decks of aircraft carriers.
Although for AV, most likely, the SBC was loaded.

[alexoff]

A torpedo? A radio-controlled boat?

[Grancer81]

Them Especially if there are several of them.

[alexoff]

I seriously doubt that after a strike below the waterline in the stern area the dry cargo ship will float far

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from alexoff

I seriously doubt that after a strike below the waterline in the stern area the dry cargo ship will float far

What's wrong with being in the engine room, below the waterline?

[Arifon]

Especially if it is loaded with ammunition and flammable substances.

[trromar]

And Poseidon - let him go and he will do everything himself, otherwise they launch all these missiles and all sorts of things to Kamchatka.

[Simargl]

Quote: trromar

And Poseidon - let him go and he will do everything himself

"Poseidon" is more likely to "drown" the port...
...or expand it - depending on how you look at it.

[Ovsigovets]

dredging - there is such a term

[Volunteer Marek]

How? Just like they sank and continue to sank our ships and vessels. When they want to sink us, they sink us. When they don't, they defeat us.

[single-n]

any torpedo. There are no anti-torpedo protection systems there. Or bombs from 500 kg.
Even if it doesn't sink, it will require repairs in dry dock.

[Grancer81]

So, do we need either a torpedo boat, or a submarine, or a torpedo bomber aircraft?

[single-n]

Or a BEK. Alternatively, a UAV would work, too. Then you'd need a toredpa with a meager range, which means it's lighter.

[Simargl]

Quote: Grencer81

or a torpedo bomber?

Have you defrosted it for a long time?

[Grancer81]

There may or may not be a torpedo protection there, but that doesn't mean it will sink to the bottom from just one torpedo.

[single-n]

It won't go away. But the torpedoes

love

Count on the propeller noise. This means loss of propulsion and flooding of the engine room. What does a nightmare of a navigational situation mean—running aground, risk of collision. And what if it's open sea and there's at least some storm?
Again, the crew will jump ship because who the hell wants to sit on an uncontrollable vessel. What if something else comes? They're not naval sailors.
It's also no good if it gets into your nose. There'll be a band-aid there.
squeeze
And in any case, it's an underwater part, which means a dry dock is needed. Which costs a fortune.

[Fan-fan]

How do you launch a torpedo? There are no torpedo bombers; they were there in 1943, but they're gone in 2023. Submarines are hidden in Novorossiysk harbor and afraid to show their noses, just like torpedo boats are hiding. We've reached a point where the fleet can't carry out combat missions.

[single-n]

A UAV-equipped BEC will help you. By the way, what can attack a Ukrainian submarine with?

[Fan-fan]

Underwater mines. The main thing is that we had four submarines in the Black Sea, two of which were damaged by the enemy, so we're forced to conserve the remaining boats and not use them for their intended purpose. We don't even launch Kalibr missiles from submarines anymore.

[single-n]

It's bad. But I don't think the Ukrainian Armed Forces mined the entire coastline.

[ANB]

. beat on the noise of the screws

The NK equipment follows the wake. But the result will be the same.

[svarog77]

Now the couch experts will come and explain everything to you...

[Glagol1]

A 50 ton transport can be sunk:
1. Naval mine
2. Heavy anti-ship missile
3. 1500 kg caliber FAB with a planning and correction module
4. Marine BEK with an explosive reserve of 800-1000 kg
Remember that there's a significant difference between a naval sailor and a civilian: a naval sailor, under oath and with a sense of patriotism, will fight for the survivability of his ship. In other words, he will abandon ship when ordered to do so only when the ship's destruction is inevitable. The merchant navy is organized differently: if something significant hits the ship, the captain will only give the order to abandon ship if there's a risk of sinking. It's very simple: the ship and cargo are insured, and the insurance company will get the money; that's their job. There's no patriotism: why should a Filipino sailor burn because of a Greek captain on an insured Egyptian vessel if he sees a listing and a serious fire? Merchant navy sailors are not obligated to fight for survivability when there's a direct threat to life. So what's the bottom line? Sinking merchant ships is easier—just deliver a gift of the right caliber to the right address. With military ships, it's more complicated...

[bk316]

What can sink a ship weighing 45-50 thousand gross register tons?

Turbopatriots have certainly downvoted you, but the question is valid.
The obvious answer: a torpedo.
Well, in these days it's still BEC.

[bk316]

I wonder why we don’t drown them?

Because there is no such task: to sink ships of third countries.
The goal is to ensure a blockade. Look at the photo; if "it's a little scratchy" is all you need to know, there's nothing to discuss.
Well, they don’t sink ships from third countries because otherwise Russia wouldn’t have any ships.
And this is the sad truth.

[garm]

The photo is an illustration. If you think this is a photo of an attacked bulk carrier from the article, there's nothing to discuss with you. A blockade doesn't prevent vessel traffic. And the ship attacked by the geranium doesn't turn around, but continues on its route and delivers cargo.

[Same lech]

The blockade of sea ports and communications... is a very correct decision.

[Denissdaf]

At the same time, the rubble of the completely destroyed Odessa Thermal Power Plant is being cleared away.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Preparing places for 200,000 residents
I even know where these places will be located. And at what level from the ground surface.
Hint P __ __ __ __ T
Or K _ ————-shche

[Silba]

And, to make it impossible to transfer the cargo, send it straight to the bottom! There, to the delight of the fish!

[Ivan Kuzmich]

By the way, in 1169 the Russian prince took Kyiv by storm
The army plundered the city for three days and, in addition, took the people of Kiev captive.
Bogolyubsky instilled love for Russians because in 1955 the people of Kiev started to act up and did not allow Yuri Dolgoruky to be buried in Kyiv, next to his father, Vladimir Monomakh.

[mihey]

Wasn't Kyiv a Russian city in 1169?
Where do you get so smart?
Kyiv was a prize for the princes of that era. Descendants fought over the inheritance of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers. A Russian legacy.

[Igool]

Quote: Ivan Kuzmich

Bogolyubsky instilled love for Russians because in 1955 the people of Kiev

Well, to begin with, as I understand it, Bogolyubsky was Russian and instilled love for Russians - to whom?
And who were these Kyivians? Were they Russians too?
And why did the people of Kiev only come to their senses in 1955?
Or do you think that there were at least some Ukrainians in 1169?

[trromar]

And here today at 9 am, apparently, it came from some kind of military warehouse—right in the city center. People at the bus stop were pointing at the sky—there was a dark line from the drone (or missile). I don't know where the debris went—maybe it all evaporated.
A nice fireworks gift for the occasion/holiday of September 1st. Yesterday at 9 pm (it was already dark) there were also two bangs, I thought - maybe someone's car was blown up.

[alexoff]

They keep coming and coming, maybe they need anti-ship missiles instead of geraniums?

[vitaliy20091959]

Why use missiles? They're expensive. Torpedoes are just right.

[alexoff]

Torpedo exercises are long overdue, otherwise the Black Sea submariners haven't changed their calendar since 2021.

[Captain Pushkin]

Do you think a torpedo is cheaper than a missile? I'm not so sure.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you think a torpedo is cheaper than a missile? I'm not so sure.

Get some WWII torpedo blueprints from the archive. More than enough for a bulk carrier.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you think a torpedo is cheaper than a missile? I'm not so sure.

Get some WWII torpedo blueprints from the archive. More than enough for a bulk carrier.

Nowadays, submarines with such torpedoes will be disposable.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Nowadays, submarines with such torpedoes will be disposable.

Do dry cargo ships already sail with anti-submarine escorts? I don't think so. Another option is to rivet a Dzhevetsky device to a plastic back and shoot as much as I want.

[Igool]

Steam-gas and oxygen torpedoes (e.g., 53-65K): ~21,000 Soviet rubles in mid-1980s prices. These torpedoes were distinguished by their relatively simple design, reliability, and mass production.

Electric universal torpedoes (e.g., USET-80): ~30,000,000 rubles (at 2008 contract prices). These weapons have always been considered exceptionally expensive.

Price on the international arms market:
When supplying for export or when comparing with foreign analogues, the price order is as follows:
Basic export variants (e.g. SET-65): about $1,000,000 per unit.

Modern heavy universal torpedoes (UGST "Fizik", "Foot"): from $2,000,000 to $3,500,000. Their price is comparable to the American equivalent Mark 48, the base price of which in later modifications exceeds $3,5 million per unit.

[vitaliy20091959]

I checked the traffic, it seemed clear, but they were just driving with their transponders turned off.

[Ovsigovets]

Drown them all to hell... I'm tired of these stupid people

[Carlos Hall]

Good. It is of utmost importance to Russia that no ship enter the port to load grain or unload weapons.

[Samoyed]

Why sink? A wounded man requires more care than a dead one. A blow to the bridge will immobilize him.

[Alexander X]

So, did the cargo carried by this ship burn? Or did it survive and will ultimately be delivered to its destination instead of being burned or sunk?

[Alexey G]

Zelensky complained that European politicians are taking vacations amid massive attacks on Ukraine.

This is very encouraging! FIRST OF ALL, OUR STRIKES HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS LARGE-SCALE!
Secondly, Europe simply doesn’t care about the Ukrainians and Zelensky is offended!

[Or me]

Yeah, right... These galoshes are clearly not suitable for high-speed vessels.

As part of its blockade of enemy ports in the Black Sea, the Russian army launched strikes against violating vessels that dared to break through.

[Old shoe]

Loitering munitions of the "Geran" type were tested.

Did the author use the term "loitering" just for effect? ​​Geranium flies purposefully toward a predetermined target, rather than circling like a hawk, watching for prey.
Here is one definition:

Barrage (from the French barrage - obstacle), a flight of fighter aircraft (units) over a certain area with the purpose of intercepting and destroying enemy aircraft and unmanned aerial attack vehicles on the approaches to the troops (objects) being protected

[Rostislav]

About five "attacked" ... and again drones.
They reported victory, posting a photo of a fire on board the ship, but this attack did not prevent it from delivering weapons.
Everyone is happy. Our guys - they attacked and even hit, Ukrainians - that they received weapons.
The result is that the sheep are safe and the wolves are fed.

[Anatoly Eliseev]

This news has been circulating for 2 or 3 days now.

[acetophenone]

Quote: svarog77

Now the couch experts will come and explain everything to you...

So, I take it you're a couch expert on couch experts and you'll explain everything to us?

[commander]

We constantly leave something unthought and unfinished:
1. For some reason, they removed the looming threat to Kyiv by capturing a foothold in Gostomel in 2022.
2. Well, it didn't work out. They abandoned the idea of ​​conducting an amphibious landing operation on the coast near Odessa in 2022. Why didn't they launch a blockade? Instead, they went along with some "grain deal" and compromised the flagship cruiser Moskva, thus losing a significant portion of the Black Sea Fleet. We had plenty of heavy aircraft carriers capable of conducting a blockade using the "shore-to-coastal communications" and "shore-to-port communications" methods.
3. Why, having disrupted sea communications, don't we go further and impede rail and road communications in western Ukraine? We don't understand the concept of a strategic rear base abroad, the deployment of an operational rear base under cover and near a concentration of civilians?
4. Why is there such weak fire support and fire damage at the fronts? Why isn't there carpet bombing of all enemy defense areas across a broad front?
5. Why has "infiltration through stealth" been the primary offensive method on the ground front for three years now? What happened to "massing" and "concentrating efforts" on the main attack axes?
6. In the end, all we do is "revenge" and inflict "retaliatory blows." Are these the fundamental principles of modern warfare?
7. And if "we are united in patriotic fervor," then why this "idle life" in the rear? Why are we spending tons of money "on spectacles and luxury," while critical infrastructure is "like a naked ass"? Are we deliberately creating a divide within both society and the state, and then it's: "Let's take it from the 'waiters'?"

[commander]

The enemy managed to achieve a "united impulse" in this war. But the clown managed to thrash around and unite the entire European elite. They want to fight "Slavs against Slavs," while remaining unbeaten.

[commander]

No one in the West is afraid we'll start a war. Well, if we've already started, then why did the Norwegians arrest our research, passenger, and tourist vessel, the Professor Molchanov, in Spitsbergen? And where are our much-touted "Arctic troops" in white coats and our brave Special Operations Forces? No way?

[commander]

For the second day I’ve been thinking: why is mobilization “bullshit?”

[Benderbej]

News that a ship was "hit" no longer impresses anyone. It's completely unclear whether the ship made it with its cargo or not. If it's unclear whether results were achieved, why even "bragging" or "publicizing" it? This mystery is great. It just irritates everyone, by God... Especially if it's known that the ships were carrying military cargo... even a warehouse full of liquor, destroyed, looks better than a ship full of ammunition, spotted, hit, but unloaded in port...

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: Igool

inheritance

Not in the eyebrow but in the eye
Okay, but there were definitely people from Kiev)))))))

Quote: Igool

Quote: Ivan Kuzmich

Bogolyubsky instilled love for Russians because in 1955 the people of Kiev

Well, to begin with, as I understand it, Bogolyubsky was Russian and instilled love for Russians - to whom?
And who were these Kyivians? Were they Russians too?
And why did the people of Kiev only come to their senses in 1955?
Or do you think that there were at least some Ukrainians in 1169?