Motor fuel supplies from Belarus have reached their maximum level.

Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov stated that fuel supplies from Belarus to Russia are at maximum levels. He made this statement in response to journalists' questions about whether this topic was discussed during the meeting between Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko held yesterday at the Novo-Ogaryovo residence near Moscow.

Peskov pointed out that Minsk is very responsive to Russia's growing needs:

For this we are grateful to them.

Meanwhile, the supply of motor fuel remains challenging in several regions of Russia. As of late August, problems are being reported in the south of the country, the Volga region, some central regions, as well as Siberia and the Far East. At gas stations run by major suppliers, which are trying to maintain prices, impressive queues are forming. Drivers sometimes leave their cars in queues overnight so they can fill up at an affordable price in the morning when the tanker is emptying. Smaller stations have raised prices, but even at 150 rubles per liter of AI-95, it's not always possible to find gasoline everywhere. The difficult situation is being reported in southern Russia, including Crimea, and has also spread to central regions, including Moscow and the Moscow region.

Let us recall that this summer Russia increased its gasoline purchases from Belarus to historical A record—in the first half of the year, they increased 20-fold, reaching 453 tons. This is due to a drop in refining at Russian refineries due to damage from drone attacks, as well as a seasonal increase in demand. The Kremlin previously confirmed that it is negotiating with several countries about fuel imports to stabilize the domestic market. One of these countries is India.

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[Andobor]

This summer, Russia increased its gasoline purchases from Belarus to a historic high – by the end of the first half of the year, they had grown 20-fold, to 453 thousand tons.
This covers just over 2% of Russian consumption.

[Sergey3]

The very fact psychologically calms the consumer.

[Andobor]

Quote: Sergey3

The very fact psychologically calms the consumer.

Now people will return home by September 1st and in a week or two everything will calm down.

[Sergey3]

From my observations, traffic jams start right after September 1st. Teachers return to work, and mothers of elementary school children start driving them to and from school.

[Andobor]

Quote: Sergey3

After September 1st the traffic jams start.

Traffic jams to school are kilometers long, traffic jams at the sea and elsewhere are hundreds of kilometers long.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Andobor

Traffic jams to school are kilometers long, traffic jams at the sea and elsewhere are hundreds of kilometers long.

The traffic jams to school, if you add them up in all the cities, are longer, plus there are the traffic jams from people going to work... By the way, there are plenty of traffic jams at the seaside this year, but it's more like tens of kilometers - half of my friends didn't go to our seaside, but started for the mountains, etc.

[ximkim]

A fuel crisis is necessary because: many cars will break down, the population is not mobile, and new taxes can be devised to cope with this movement.

[alexoff]

Is this a breakthrough? The inability to protect two dozen oil refineries from attacks by slow-moving ash-makers?

[LMN]

Quote from alexoff

Is this a breakthrough? The inability to protect two dozen oil refineries from attacks by slow-moving ash-makers?

Your choice?
How to protect oil refineries

And it's not a question of money.
How?

[Sergey T19]

At least cover the oil refinery with a metal mesh.

[LMN]

Quote: Sergey T19

At least cover the oil refinery with a metal mesh.

Cruise missiles will penetrate this grid.
But at least they covered it with a net?

You'll be the first to say that everything was done in a slapdash manner.

[Sergey T19]

At the moment they are bombing with slow-flying drones

[alexputnik17]

Finally pass a law on PMCs, gather oil workers, gas workers, chemists and whoever else the Ukrainians are harassing and say: here are the people, here are the weapons, take them, pay them, feed them and support them.
I hope they won't go broke!

[LMN]

Quote: alexputnik17

Finally pass a law on PMCs, gather oil workers, gas workers, chemists and whoever else the Ukrainians are harassing and say: here are the people, here are the weapons, take them, pay them, feed them and support them.
I hope they won't go broke!

I don't know why you're acting like a fool.

The problem is that there is no will and desire.
The problem is that no one knows what to do!!

The refineries have money, but they don’t know what to do to protect themselves!!
And the Russian Ministry of Defense doesn’t know what to advise them.

[alexputnik17]

And also, could you tell me how nuclear facilities are protected? During peacetime?

[LMN]

Quote: alexputnik17

And also, could you tell me how nuclear facilities are protected? During peacetime?

And how to protect Wildberries?
What about the oil refinery?

We keep beating around the bush, but you don’t give an answer.
You don't know how to protect objects from Drones.

Find a way, get the money, don't forget your homeland))

[alexputnik17]

I gave Wat a full response to my opinion in two posts on how to protect the refinery. Others have written similar posts. Don't you read?
You're right. Aside from all sorts of "foolishness," I haven't heard any counterarguments other than attempts at insults.
Valberis is also worth defending. Although I don't shop there, and I'm, to put it mildly, not interested in such chains.
That's it, I'll shut up; these debates are useless in my opinion.
You have no idea, except for the arguments that no one knows how, and I don’t know how.
It is your right and your business to continue to hit the wall, downvote and try to insult someone.

[LMN]

Quote: alexputnik17

I gave Wat a full response to my opinion in two posts on how to protect the refinery. Others have written similar posts. Don't you read?
You're right. Aside from all sorts of "foolishness," I haven't heard any counterarguments other than attempts at insults.
Valberis is also worth defending. Although I don't shop there, and I'm, to put it mildly, not interested in such chains.
That's it, I'll shut up; these debates are useless in my opinion.
You have no idea, except for the arguments that no one knows how, and I don’t know how.
It is your right and your business to continue to hit the wall, downvote and try to insult someone.

I really want to hear, but I can’t hear.
What exactly do you offer besides nets?

[alexputnik17]

I didn't suggest a grid. Please reread the thread.

[Michael]

Quote: LMN

Find a way, get the money, don't forget your homeland))

At the tactical level, there are the notorious tanks at the airfields.
At the strategic level - entanglement with loans and secret "chancellor acts", which are supported by tanks at airfields.
And they are trying it globally right now.

[alexoff]

And how to protect Wildberries?

by decongesting warehouses and installing fire walls inside.

What about the oil refinery?

Air defense? Has anyone seen air defense in action near the oil refinery? I haven't seen anything bigger than machine guns there. Anti-aircraft drones? The Chinese are also selling 100kW lasers. Has anyone installed them? Or is it not a panacea, and is it easier to do nothing?

[LMN]

Quote: alexputnik17

And also, could you tell me how nuclear facilities are protected? During peacetime?

You still haven't told me

[alexputnik17]

Rosatom is the general contractor for the plant's construction. It has numerous general and subcontracting partners, including contractors who are already responsible for both the safety regimes of "peaceful" nuclear power plants (to prevent a second Chernobyl) and the physical security of the plants. This includes constructing barbed wire perimeters, erecting pillboxes and bunkers, and constructing machine gun nests. All of this is factored into the plant's design. And if a new threat like drones emerges, it's time to consider deploying air defense systems and constructing all kinds of anti-drone nets and/or more robust fencing.

And it seems that you, besides downvoting and picking on your opponents, haven’t expressed your thoughts at all.
Your humble opponent served such a contractor. I've also been to oil refineries and gas processing plants many times to sign contracts, walked around, and believe me, to disable an oil refinery with a properly maintained and properly functioning fire suppression system, you'd be tired of using more than one, two, or maybe even 10 drones to disable it.
Well, as you said, love your homeland and especially its inhabitants. You come to this thread to communicate with people, not just to tease them and downvote them for the sake of your ego, if I understood you correctly.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: LMN

it's not a question of money.
How?

Allow small businesses to purchase oil and refine it at mini-refineries. It's clear that the oligarchs who own Russia's largest refineries will be strongly opposed and will likely launch a protest information campaign. But this is a question of the country's fuel and energy security, which will deteriorate further given the current trend of increasing attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Furthermore, decentralizing the refining system will not only guarantee fuel security but also increase the incomes of those working in small businesses and remote areas. They may not compete with large refineries, but they will certainly lower prices. The only remaining requirement is to slightly expand the quality control and certification system for fuels and lubricants.

[LMN]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Quote: LMN

it's not a question of money.
How?

Allow small businesses to purchase oil and refine it at mini-refineries. It's clear that the oligarchs who own Russia's largest refineries will be strongly opposed and will likely launch a protest information campaign. But this is a question of the country's fuel and energy security, which will deteriorate further given the current trend of increasing attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Furthermore, decentralizing the refining system will not only guarantee fuel security but also increase the incomes of those working in small businesses and remote areas. They may not compete with large refineries, but they will certainly lower prices. The only remaining requirement is to slightly expand the quality control and certification system for fuels and lubricants.

And how will this help us with attacks on oil refineries?

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: LMN

How will this help us with attacks on oil refineries?

Will decide

Quote: Vitaly.17

the issue of the country's fuel and energy security

But if you're worried about the refineries being privately owned by oligarchs, don't be. They'll receive insurance, tax breaks, and other perks from the government, which these oligarchs have been sponsoring for decades.

[LMN]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Quote: LMN

How will this help us with attacks on oil refineries?

Will decide

Quote: Vitaly.17

the issue of the country's fuel and energy security

But if you're worried about the refineries being privately owned by oligarchs, don't be. They'll receive insurance, tax breaks, and other perks from the government, which these oligarchs have been sponsoring for decades.

We are talking about completely different things.
You're talking about economics.
I'm talking about oil refinery safety.

Therefore, ciao, Banbino)

[LMN]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Quote: LMN

it's not a question of money.
How?

Allow small businesses to purchase oil and refine it at mini-refineries. It's clear that the oligarchs who own Russia's largest refineries will be strongly opposed and will likely launch a protest information campaign. But this is a question of the country's fuel and energy security, which will deteriorate further given the current trend of increasing attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Furthermore, decentralizing the refining system will not only guarantee fuel security but also increase the incomes of those working in small businesses and remote areas. They may not compete with large refineries, but they will certainly lower prices. The only remaining requirement is to slightly expand the quality control and certification system for fuels and lubricants.

And how will this help us with attacks on oil refineries?

[ZAV69]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Allow small businesses to purchase oil and refine it at mini-refineries.

To do this, we need to have these mini-refineries first. They don't exist yet. Does anyone in Mother Russia manufacture the equipment for them? 90% of the time, no. They certainly won't sell it to us in the West, even if they have it. So, we need to design it, find a contractor, and organize production. Then we need land allocation, a ton of approvals, utilities (you're not going to be transporting oil in tankers, are you?). And all this time. And not just one year.
In short, there are no mini refineries for the next 10 years, and there won't be any. It's a Manilov-era project.

[Non-fighter]

Don't we mention the quality of fuel from these mini refineries?

[ZAV69]

Quote: Not the fighter

Don't we mention the quality of fuel from these mini refineries?

If it's going to be a samovar like the one in Chechnya in the 90s, then it'll only be possible to pour it into a ZIL-157. If you do the math and design it properly, you could get a decent 95. But the price of such a refinery would be...

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: ZAV69

But such a refinery will cost

Go to the marketplace and you'll find a Chinese mini-refinery for around 1-3 million rubles. And any company can make one, literally in a garage. The quality of the fuel will depend solely on the number of bells and whistles, the type of catalysts, filters, sensors, and the level of automation.

[Pastor]

You're right, hello, and so are the comments below, but I see you've forgotten about capitalism. Small refineries WON'T be able to buy oil on the exchange like the networkers. The volume is smaller, the discount is smaller, the price is higher, competitiveness is declining, and that's it! It's impossible for a country to survive economically, socially, and demographically without government regulation. God himself is pushing Rus' toward this. It's either money or the Motherland! Capitalism isn't a Christian movement, nor is it social!

[alexoff]

First, we kick out the Aerospace Forces commander along with the other tank crews. Then we remove all the armored vehicles protecting the royal family's numerous residences. We build turrets for them right on the refinery grounds, at the highest point. We call in anti-aircraft drone specialists from the front, where they'll explain in detail to the refinery guards how to use them, with instructions and all. We'll hang up obstacle control balloons and nets. A hotline says that when a firefighter comes in and starts swearing, they'll come and break his legs. Similarly, if someone at headquarters starts saying it's not a panacea, the choice is either breaking legs, or storming the area, or both. The country probably squandered a thousand armored vehicles on the strikes against the refineries, but saved on defense.

[Dedok]

Hotline that when a fireman comes and starts swearing, they come for him and break his legs.

Well, for some it's war, for others it's "marks" in their reports - and then bonuses, promotions...

[Lako]

In general, it's probably the same way they protect nuclear power plants. Here in Belarus, in addition to internal troops reinforced with armored vehicles, the station is covered from the air by units of an air defense regiment. They're armed with Tor and Pantsir missiles, and radars are deployed. No personnel? What are conscripts doing? Here, they cover strategic facilities, among other things. The idea that the owner should provide air defense for the oil refinery is complete nonsense.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote from lako

And the idea that the owner should ensure the protection of the oil refinery from the air is complete nonsense.

I agree, let's just allow weapons then and let the population shoot back at all the flying ashcans—they're not averse to defending themselves either...

Quote from lako

In general, it's probably the same way they protect a nuclear power plant. Here in Belarus, in addition to internal troops reinforced with armored vehicles, the plant is covered from the air by units of an air defense regiment.

Well, I have to say... there's a city in Feodosia, and it's also covered by an air defense regiment. I wouldn't say everything was intact. Although, yes, they shoot things down regularly. I think they need to set up an air defense division to be more or less sure that the debris won't land... In Moscow, there are almost no hundreds of them flying through - every day... but they've developed such advanced air defense there recently... so, in theory, it's possible.

[Vadim Zhivov]

I saw them over the Volga several times this summer. They really are slow.

[dimy44]

They are really slow.

Slow, but they fly high. I see them every day. MOGs are firing at them, and the tracers show how difficult it is to hit a dark spot in the clouds. That's how they fly for hundreds of kilometers. Then they descend, diving straight for their target. It's such a twist, it seems no one in the world was prepared for this turn of events. Everyone was preparing to shoot down serious targets, but slow-moving drones have completely shattered the pattern...

[Sergey3]

and slow-moving drones broke the mold...

An antidote has already been found: attack helicopters equipped with radar and new anti-tank missiles; they're very effective against drones. Incidentally, in addition to the K-52 and Mi-28, the new Mi-8 family helicopters now also have this capability. The Kazan helicopter plant is severely underserved. Forward...

[alexputnik17]

Yak-130M... (I know it's short)

[Vadim Zhivov]

I saw them flying low. But you can't deploy MTFs a kilometer away... They probably use the rivers as a guide. That's my personal opinion.

[LMN]

Quote from alexoff

Is this a breakthrough? The inability to protect two dozen oil refineries from attacks by slow-moving ash-makers?

You are all such fucking strategists.
All the armies of the world do not know how to defend themselves against the attacks of these "slow ash-bearers".
And then there's alexoff...with a solution.

You will be a multi-billionaire if you know the solution.
We won't see you on VO anymore, will we?)

[alexoff]

You are all such fucking strategists.

There are tons of ideas here. Zero of them have been implemented at the refinery. Nets? Aerostats suspended on cables like in World War I? Towers with machine guns, anti-aircraft drones? No, nothing has been done.

All the armies of the world do not know how to defend themselves against the attacks of these "slow ash-bearers".

Tell me how the slow-moving ash-droppers reach Israeli oil refineries. They're ash-droppers, not IRBMs.

And then there's alexoff...with a solution.

Should we do anything about this decision? Because the headquarters have been detecting strokes and epileptic seizures since 2022 because they can't find a cure, and without absolute protection, they won't do anything?

You will be a multi-billionaire if you know the solution.

Tell me in more detail where the king promised half the kingdom for protecting the oil refinery, because it seems his only idea is to buy it abroad - that's how we've been solving our problems for the last 35 years

We won't see you on VO anymore, will we?)

Is that the point of your post? Are you pissed off that management can't do anything and someone dares to notice?

[Nicola]

Gasoline is available for 130 rubles. I haven't been able to fill up at a normal price for two weeks. They should have kept quiet about imported and Belarusian gasoline. It's more expensive than our expensive one. Business is still a thing here, nothing personal, so to speak.

[alexputnik17]

Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov stated that fuel supplies from Belarus to Russia are at their maximum level.

Is this a positive indicator or something?
This is our reality and it’s shameful!

[alexputnik17]

Quote: LMN

The problem is that no one knows what to do!!

I wrote what, in my personal opinion, should be done. What does foolishness have to do with it?
Something doesn't just grow out of nowhere. You can't just put conscripts in oil refineries. What does the Ministry of Defense have to do with it? Many Wagner soldiers joined the Afrika Korps and the National Guard, and many are still in the oven or have changed professions.
There are plenty of specialists willing to work throughout the country.
P.S.: I wasn't the one giving you the downvotes. I don't have that habit. There's one opinion, and there's another. That doesn't mean they're both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
You say no one knows what to do? It sounds strange to me.
Defend ourselves militarily. Preventively, not in response or on-site.
Therefore, either the Ministry of Defense with security forces or PMCs.
Well, maybe you could suggest a third option.

[Million]

I can just imagine the kind of slop they'll bring back from India...

[FeHa3eIIaM]

Quote: LMN

Quote: Sergey T19

At least cover the oil refinery with a metal mesh.

Cruise missiles will penetrate this grid.
But at least they covered it with a net?

You'll be the first to say that everything was done in a slapdash manner.

Here he is, a typical United Russia member. Instead of doing anything, he's already come up with an excuse.

[alexputnik17]

This isn't United Russia. It feels like someone is simply hurting him, or has hurt him terribly.
And that's it. He was rude to everyone here. He sling mud at them. No specifics. He heaped downvotes on everyone. And then he left. And downvotes from many opponents, even with any specifics, are a sign of poor manners and weakness, if you will.

[FeHa3eIIaM]

Quote: LMN

Quote from alexoff

Is this a breakthrough? The inability to protect two dozen oil refineries from attacks by slow-moving ash-makers?

You are all such fucking strategists.
All the armies of the world do not know how to defend themselves against the attacks of these "slow ash-bearers".
And then there's alexoff...with a solution.

You will be a multi-billionaire if you know the solution.
We won't see you on VO anymore, will we?)

In the UAE, they covered oil refineries with nets. And in Russia, Maksimka is waving a sabre on the internet. Do you see the difference?

[Rockerman]

Quote: Sergey3

and slow-moving drones broke the mold...

An antidote has already been found: attack helicopters equipped with radar and new anti-tank missiles; they're very effective against drones. Incidentally, in addition to the K-52 and Mi-28, the new Mi-8 family helicopters now also have this capability. The Kazan helicopter plant is severely underserved. Forward...

Missiles are too much. K-52 helicopters and cannons are good at hitting them, with single shots from close, but safe, range.

[private person]

Okay, so we have gasoline problems in the Volga region or in the south, and the reason is known. But why is there no gasoline in the Far East? No refineries? Today, almost all the oil goes to the Far East via the ESPO pipeline.

[Vadim Zhivov]

When the first gasoline problems surfaced, right at the beginning, prices also went up in the east of the country. Why? Whoever gives the correct answer will get 10 years. And at least give it a thumbs down...

[alexputnik17]

In my opinion, you are right.
There's a strange figure floating around online for lost work/utilization at Russian oil refineries: 20-40%. So, it's time to take off your hat or put on your underwear. A specialist at an oil refinery can quickly estimate the damage and restoration time, then add up the figures and get the total percentage. Where does this discrepancy come from?
Second: our oligarchs-latifundists-managers, as a rule, in the oil and gas production of state-owned companies, as a rule, love exclusively short-term money.
What's easier and simpler? (!) Extract oil, inject it into a Transneft pipeline somewhere in Zaycha Guba, and within 24 hours receive that oil back, minus the loss from pumping it to the Chinese border. Because Transneft pumps oil through substitution. They sign a contract, inject it into the pipeline, and get back the same oil at the other end, minus the loss.
At the same time, the miner receives a margin from export, usually through prepayment, plus compensation in the form of export excise tax and VAT in the form of a refund.
Or...
Pumping oil to refineries, accounting for drug-related raids, insuring its storage at the refinery, paying for its refining, dealing with deliveries, usually by rail (Russian Railways' expenses), not receiving an export tax refund, and making a profit on fuel sales for 1-2 months. Perhaps the problem isn't the refineries themselves, but rather that too much oil, gas, and gas condensate are going overseas?

[private person]

Maybe the problem isn't in the refinery after all,

You've described everything correctly. But there are problems with the refineries, and they're no longer even hiding it, as they did at the beginning. They simply can't keep up with the restoration, and as the mayor of Orsk stated after the attack, restoration will take at least six months because the equipment was imported. And you can't even count the number of refineries damaged in recent months.

[alexoff]

So gasoline is exported from there to the European part of the country, and the locals in Moscow don't care.

[foxes]

Under the current system, the hour is not far off when we will start buying bread in Turkey.

[Esaul]

Everything will definitely get better, they just need to re-elect United Russia for another term. They just don't have enough time to get life in the country back on track, because the country is big and the mandates are few.

[d1975-value]

I really want to ask the powers that be, Yadrenov and United Russia, where is the emergency reserve???

[Moneron]

Batka keeps his oligarchy in check...if we had such a Batka from the plow, we wouldn't be constantly begging in China and around the world.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote from moneron

Batka keeps his oligarchy in check...if we had such a Batka from the plow, we wouldn't be constantly begging in China and around the world.

The country is governed by a system of established power, not by a single individual. Although, yes, he can influence it in some way or another... a little. But for a smooth overhaul of the system (without a catastrophic crisis like the 90s), years of systematic influence are needed, and the timeframe may not be sufficient. And in general, a system where one person rules for decades is closer to a monarchy or dictatorship. Do you think Russia can do without that? Most developed countries in the world manage to manage somehow without it.
P.S. And even after Lukashenko, it's still unknown what will happen in Belarus... since under him, it definitely won't... In the Russian Federation, for example, for 300 billion, it would have been possible to build about 150 AvtoVAZ and other large factories... and in various funds, there were a couple more times that amount...

[Word]

So, there are about 700 AN-2 biplanes in Russia. There are two military flight schools and three branches, cadets can enroll and fight at low altitudes; girls could do so during WWII. Or are the shelving units just not their level?

[LMN]

Quote: Michael

Quote: LMN

Find a way, get the money, don't forget your homeland))

At the tactical level, there are the notorious tanks at the airfields.
At the strategic level - entanglement with loans and secret "chancellor acts", which are supported by tanks at airfields.
And they are trying it globally right now.

Tanks at the airfields?!

[snow mountain]

I got the impression that Russia has completely abandoned the production of its own gasoline. Another step back and down.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Vitaly.17

The quality of fuel and lubricants will depend only on the number of bells and whistles, the type of catalysts, filters, sensors, and the level of automation.

I can't say how it is here now, but the factories never pushed octane levels higher than 80. The rest is additives and what you wrote.