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With the arrival of the Boreev to the Russian Navy, patrolling of strategic submarines in the southern latitudes will be resumed - General Staff

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The military patrol zones of strategic nuclear-powered submarines (NPS) of the Russian Navy in the world's oceans since 2014 are planned to be substantially expanded, while simultaneously increasing the patrol intensity. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS by a source in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.


"This news, I believe, with pleasure the sailors-submariners of the North fleetcelebrating his 80th birthday today, "he said.

"With the adoption of strategic Borei-class submarines of the Russian Navy, submarine missile-carriers will not only continue patrolling in the Arctic, Atlantic and Pacific oceans, but also resume combat missions in those areas of the World Ocean where at the end of the 80-s of the last century, the "strategists" of the Soviet Navy acted regularly and where they stopped appearing with the collapse of the USSR, "the agency’s source said.

"We are talking about the resumption of patrols of strategic nuclear submarines in the southern latitudes, which will allow solving the tasks of strategic nuclear deterrence not only through the North Pole, but also through the South Pole," said the source. "Simultaneously with the expansion of the combat zones of these submarines, its intensity will increase," he added. “Of course, this change in the activities of the naval strategic nuclear forces will not take place at once, but gradually, over several years, as new strategic nuclear submarines are transferred to the Navy,” the source explained.

The former chief of the General Staff of the Navy, Admiral Viktor Kravchenko, commenting on the plans of the Russian Defense Ministry to resume the actions of Russian strategic submarines in southern latitudes for missile firing at the South Pole, if such a need arises, expressed the view that these plans are technically feasible. "Yes, technically it is possible," said the admiral, refraining from other comments.

Meanwhile, the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, told ITAR-TASS earlier that, at present, “Russian strategic missile and multipurpose nuclear-powered submarines maintain such a level of intensity of combat services and combat patrols in the world's oceans, which fully ensures the security of our state.”
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  1. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 2 June 2013 09: 11
    16
    Well, that’s very good. Let them remind you with their birds under the mattress, and the Karachum that personally sits for them in the ocean.
    1. yak69
      yak69 2 June 2013 12: 47
      25
      Let's return America to its normal daily routine "Fear Russia around the clock!"
      Let the buttocks tighten more often.
      laughing
      1. prophet190
        prophet190 2 June 2013 15: 46
        +5
        It’s time, brother, for a long time!
      2. 755962
        755962 2 June 2013 16: 41
        15
        Quote: yak69
        Let's return America to its normal daily routine "Fear Russia around the clock!"
      3. orkibotu
        orkibotu 2 June 2013 18: 18
        -7
        Squeezer squeezer to the maximum)!
      4. Capt.stryker
        Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 16
        22 th
        Quote: yak69
        Let's return America to its normal daily routine "Fear Russia around the clock!"

        Uh, no, fellow citizens! This is Russia panicky afraid of the United States and NATO! Otherwise, where does such hysteria come from because of the American missile defense and the expansion of the bloc to the east!
        1. Tambov we ...
          Tambov we ... 2 June 2013 21: 09
          +4
          This is a hysteria at NAT - it is still expanding, puffing up - it means pissing.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 2 June 2013 22: 42
          11
          Quote: Capt.Stryker
          This is Russia panicky afraid of the United States and NATO! Otherwise, where does such hysteria come from because of the American missile defense and the expansion of the bloc to the east!

          Pack animal jak69:
          1. RUSSIA - written with a capital (capital) letter, this is for those who are especially gifted in the grammar of the Russian language. You don't know "Russian MOV, write in Ukrainian MOV, be weasel."
          2. We well remember the 41-th rock, therefore we will not allow anyone to repeat it again, even to our independent bros.
          3. We don't need a shared border with our "incredible" partners. Better sanitary cardon (sorry!).
          4. We seriously believe that the illusion of impunity can motivate our incredible partners to act rashly, fraught with a general "oozing" of their rotten through and through crap.
          5. If the idea of ​​a Slavic brotherhood does not shake you, look: are there banners developing under which you stood?
          1. yak69
            yak69 3 June 2013 23: 07
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Pack animal jak69:

            Honestly, I did not understand you, dear "Boa constrictor KAA" - what kind of beast of burden are you talking about? and what does yak69 have to do with it ??
            Please explain.
        3. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 3 June 2013 04: 45
          +1
          NATO will be hysterical when Iskanders are deployed in Kaliningrad and Belarus. And so we just draw the attention of our "friends" from across the ocean, who are walking widely ...
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 2 June 2013 17: 08
      +1
      What would "NATa" have buttocks all the time tense ...
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 June 2013 09: 12
    +7
    Let's guys faster .. little time left !!!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 2 June 2013 10: 25
      17
      Quote: MIKHAN
      . little time left !!!

      I think that the EU and the USA have little time left, but not ours. They tried to sow the wind in Russia, with their tsvetn. revolutions, now they are reaping the storm, in the face of transfers, and Muslim youth. Well, our submarine is a good insurance if someone visits a bad idea.
      1. sub307
        sub307 2 June 2013 15: 39
        0
        Yes, not just insurance, the argument is real. At the same time, it would be nice that it would not "work as always" instead of as desired.
        1. prophet190
          prophet190 2 June 2013 15: 47
          -1
          Yes people, I recalled a recent case of improper use of paddling boats!
          1. Capt.stryker
            Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 20
            0
            Quote: prophet190
            I recalled a recent case of improper use of paddling boats!

            Well, tell me! It will be very interesting to know what this case is so wrong !?
    2. Capt.stryker
      Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 18
      -4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Let's guys faster .. little time left !!!

      Well, where are you in a hurry?
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 2 June 2013 20: 53
        +1
        The question is not correctly posed. We are not in a hurry, but we are going to restore a correct understanding of the issue of world peace. And most importantly, without participation in this (as, once, after the Yalta Conference) of all tolerant-podpidrennyh universal people of the West. Wow.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 22: 52
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Let's guys faster .. little time left !!!

      Do not drift, Volodya, let’s break through: GOD and St. Andrew’s flag are with us!
  3. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 2 June 2013 09: 16
    0
    At present, "Russian strategic missile and multipurpose nuclear submarines maintain a level of intensity of combat services and combat patrols in the oceans that fully ensures the security of our state."
    Great news, if true of course ...
  4. valokordin
    valokordin 2 June 2013 09: 21
    +4
    This is good news, it's time to run the hedgehog in the striped pants.
    1. AnpeL
      AnpeL 2 June 2013 14: 17
      0
      Yes! sea ​​urchin in these pants to start with)))
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 2 June 2013 09: 23
    +3
    Recently I read an Amerov article on our nuclear submarines on foreign media. The conclusion they made is not scary (of course they lied as usual). And right now, huh? In-in ...
    1. Capt.stryker
      Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 22
      -4
      Quote: retired
      Recently I read an Amerov article on our nuclear submarines on foreign media. The conclusion they made is not scary (of course they lied as usual). And right now, huh? In-in ...

      Now translate all this into a normal language! what did you want to say with this comment?
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 2 June 2013 20: 58
        +3
        Che - in Chinese, wow. And in Russian - ended unipolar freebie. To the stall!
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 2 June 2013 23: 18
        +4
        Quote: Capt.Stryker
        Now translate all this into a normal language!

        As far as a colleague understood senior citizen (2)translate:
        - Amers in their favorite repertoire shit our underwater forces, poorly relying on the 3-e generation pl. This is their deep mistake, because with pr 971 (and 949А) they lost their advantage in the detection range of our planes;
        - Ash-trees in all respects are comparable with Virginia, although they are still not enough, but this is a matter of time and our shipbuilding USC.
        - with the exit to the military patrols of Boreev, the amers will become sad, because you will have to work hard to find them in the water area outlined by a radius of 8000 km from the place of the potential target.
        To continue, or will it become clear to the "especially gifted" advocates of the pro-Amerian "proposition"?
        PS. Alexander Andreevich! Change your profile picture: absurd - the skull has no eyes, why does he need a blindfold on his right? lol
  6. scrack
    scrack 2 June 2013 09: 26
    +1
    Congratulations to the sailors on the sling. The news was very pleased, as well as "pleased" our overseas partners. I think we are giving them a signal that it is time for them to increase their military budget, which, in turn, will finally finish off their economy.
  7. wolk71
    wolk71 2 June 2013 09: 26
    0
    Yes, this is news! Finally, again, Russian sailors will drive the Yankees across the oceans !!!!!
    1. Capt.stryker
      Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 23
      -2
      Quote: wolk71
      Finally, again, Russian sailors will drive the Yankees across the oceans !!!!!

      And when did Russian sailors drive the Yankees across the oceans? do not remind?
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 2 June 2013 21: 01
        +2
        Is always. Especially significant in 1988, in the Black Sea, in bulk.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 2 June 2013 23: 26
        +2
        Quote: Capt.Stryker
        And when did Russian sailors drive the Yankees across the oceans? do not remind?

        They didn’t drive, but they made me seriously “bang up”. See materials on Operation Atrina. The US President himself was worried in earnest. This is the story, and nothing can be added or added here.
      3. wolk71
        wolk71 3 June 2013 20: 34
        0
        They drove the Yankees all their lives until democracy came.
  8. ruslan7608
    ruslan7608 2 June 2013 09: 27
    0
    It's time to return our ships. And not only to the Mediterranean Sea, but also to the Indian Ocean in a huge composition, and it is better that there is a naval base of Russia
  9. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 2 June 2013 09: 31
    17
    The system of combat patrol of the rpkSN is being restored. And this is great! Boreas are not 667s, you won’t hear them with SUSUS for hundreds of miles. And with their deployment in the ocean, amers will forever forget about 2's missile-hazardous directions. They will have to organize a circular defense from our SLBMs. There are no maneuvering forces of the PLO here. We'll have to review the loading of the destroyer's OLA, however.
  10. Mr.M
    Mr.M 2 June 2013 09: 36
    +6
    Beauties)
    Our asymmetric response to the Euro missile defense)
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 3 June 2013 04: 54
      0
      I, too, about too))) Why spend fabulous amounts on the creation of AUG, it is better to build more submarines of all kinds.
  11. Larus
    Larus 2 June 2013 09: 43
    +3
    It’s necessary, but for the good how many submarines we have left, and can this be called patrol, and not sometimes shown .....
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 23: 34
      +2
      Quote: Larus
      can this be called patrolling, and not sometimes shown .....

      Amer-- fearful people! They consider the potential danger as a threat to the national security of the states. And then the real rpkSN with loading!
      What doubts there can be about the reality of the "partner's" intentions, after all, he did not load the megaton toys against the Cape Verde Islands!
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 June 2013 09: 47
    0
    Slowly harnessed, but fast.
    And so that the shells do not overgrow with shells, you must walk.
    Go to the oceans!
  13. starmos
    starmos 2 June 2013 10: 12
    +1
    The return and revival of former power good keep it up soldier
  14. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 2 June 2013 10: 15
    -2
    First you need to ensure planned and continuous patrol by our submarine missile carriers. And it's a shame to say, our boats over the past year have been on patrol as much as 5 times. Ideally, there should always be two boats on patrol, one each on the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet. Boats should be covered by our general forces. And we cannot do this in the southern latitudes. Therefore, we must for now (at least until 2020) set aside this idea.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 11: 40
      +9
      Quote: VohaAhov
      Boats should be covered by our general forces. And we cannot do this in the southern latitudes. Therefore, we must for now (at least until 2020 of the year) set aside this idea.

      Previously, there were such views on the combat support of the RPKSN. The Amers passed this and began to investigate the underwater environment more thoroughly in the area of ​​action of the "covering" forces (as you said), incl. using their PLA. The result is known.
      Now the rpkSN "quietly-quietly" alone, often under the legend of reaching the BP, escape from the base and each time they go to their RBD by non-repeating routes. At the same time, on the deployment route, the complexes operate on targets that are within the reach of the RO. With the advent of low-noise attack submarines in our country, they were tasked with protecting the patrolling area of ​​strategists. I believe in the Indian Ocean this is how the combat stability of our RPKSN will be ensured.
      therefore nothing to set aside.
      I repeat: "The management thinks for a long time, but decides wisely!"(A. Kirnosov "Before the watch").
  15. fisherman
    fisherman 2 June 2013 10: 22
    +4
    Correctly! Let politicians in AI constantly go in diapers and begin to build a missile defense system on their territory around the entire perimeter of the United States. If they want to do some muck for Russia, so that they don’t know where our missiles will come from. And so that the planes flew constantly along the borders of the United States, Japan, and Europe.
  16. Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 2 June 2013 10: 44
    0
    The news is great !!! It's time to remind the Americans who won the Second World War !!! Well done !!! By the way, no one heard about the fate of plans to modernize the 1144 Orlan project? Somehow flashed and fell silent ..
  17. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 June 2013 10: 48
    0
    And who knows about "titanium submarines" in the 90s, the amers promised to cut them up for scrap .. one kind of hull remained clean .. like infa slipped that they would restore the super submarine .. ??
  18. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 June 2013 11: 00
    +1
    Quote: Sirocco
    Quote: MIKHAN
    . little time left !!!

    I think that the EU and the USA have little time left, but not ours. They tried to sow the wind in Russia, with their tsvetn. revolutions, now they are reaping the storm, in the face of transfers, and Muslim youth. Well, our submarine is a good insurance if someone visits a bad idea.

    Do not underestimate the enemy .. at the end of the 30s we sang songs "The armor is strong and our tanks are fast .." and in the 80s "The unbreakable union of the free republics .." .. Perhaps the Russian ends with big losses on our side .. West insidious and cynical .. and fights with someone else's hands .. What is happening in the world it would be time to already announce a mass mobilization ..
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 11: 58
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      it’s time to announce mass mobilization.

      Well, you obviously got excited!
      But the leadership of the country needs to seriously think about the seriousness of "dragging a landmine" to our southern borders at the Security Council.
  19. Misantrop
    Misantrop 2 June 2013 11: 01
    10
    In fact, patrolling in the high latitudes of the southern hemisphere is a rather dangerous activity. And here is not even NATO PLO in the main opponents. Unlike the northern polar cap, there are very often not ice fields, but icebergs. And you can encounter this at a depth of more than 200 m, you can easily. So here it’s neatly necessary, without storming ...
  20. erased
    erased 2 June 2013 11: 07
    +5
    Why only in the south? Boats must make a promenade across all oceans.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 11: 52
      +7
      Quote: erased
      Why only in the south? Boats must make a promenade across all oceans.

      As for the oceans, I agree with you completely. And the southern direction of the United States is the most vulnerable. There is no NORAD system there, but with the advent of a missile threat from the south, it will have to be built. It's not for me to tell you how much it costs! Here, one will have to forget about the democratization of the rest of the world until they pull a splinter out of their ass.
  21. Nitup
    Nitup 2 June 2013 11: 31
    +4
    Apparently, the maximum range of the Mace is more than 8000 km, otherwise
    not enough to hit the US through the South Pole
  22. My address
    My address 2 June 2013 11: 52
    +5
    You know, after reading the feeling of how a hungry 150 in front of a borsch received, as Christ’s bare legs passed by my sweetheart.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 June 2013 23: 57
      +2
      Quote: My address
      how hungry 150 before the borscht he took, how Christ bare feet walked through the darling heart.

      VERY METHOD! Enjoy your meal!
  23. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 2 June 2013 12: 02
    +2
    The idea of ​​keeping our overseas "partners" from the north and south under the crosshair will be revived. Great!
  24. Alikovo
    Alikovo 2 June 2013 12: 14
    +2
    it’s a pity that they’ll only build 10 and not 20.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 2 June 2013 12: 19
      +1
      I think, in order to induce a dudger, so far 10 is enough. And there you’ll come up with something new
  25. shamil
    shamil 2 June 2013 12: 21
    +1
    I wonder how many submarines on duty now in the ocean, although this is a mystery
  26. Sinbad
    Sinbad 2 June 2013 12: 26
    +1
    It is high time to establish our order in the world.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 2 June 2013 12: 33
      +3
      Sinbad

      Well, you are a militarist!

      And we need it?
      Do we want to be like "peddlers of crap"? Why should we deliver something?

      It will be enough so that we and our allies (if they still remain) do not climb!
      1. shamil
        shamil 2 June 2013 12: 51
        0
        something to be respected and reckoned, the Chinese won for a short period of time forced to reckon with themselves
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 2 June 2013 15: 38
          0
          shamil

          I agree with you. But what has "its own order in the world" to do with it?
  27. indiggo
    indiggo 2 June 2013 12: 29
    0
    Quote: Alikovo
    it’s a pity that they’ll only build 10 and not 20.

    why did you decide that there will be 10 ?? the series will be bigger, these are plans until 2020, after which they will also build ... 955 will be the basis of our nuclear weapons, the number of boreas may increase as necessary
  28. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 2 June 2013 12: 32
    0
    A series of 6 Boreis was originally planned. Now the issue of financing 4 more nuclear submarines has been resolved, which cannot but rejoice.
    It's good. But still, this is not enough.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 2 June 2013 13: 53
      0
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      A series of 6 Boreis was originally planned. Now the issue of financing 4 more nuclear submarines has been resolved, which cannot but rejoice.
      It's good. But still, this is not enough.

      Why not enough? 8-10 SSBNs for Russia is quite enough. We always had an advantage in the direction of the Strategic Missile Forces, and, given our vast territory, this is correct.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 3 June 2013 00: 16
        +2
        Quote: Nitup
        We always had an advantage in the direction of the Strategic Missile Forces, and, given our vast territory, this is correct.

        No doubt: the Strategic Rocket Forces are the basis of our national security system. It’s great, it’s invulnerable (except for the space defense group), but it is Predictable!
        Therefore, the amers built the national missile defense system, covering only 2 missile-hazardous directions, massaging all their missile defense assets on them.
        Now our SSBNs have reached the southern latitudes of MOT, IO, and our counterparts are naked there! OH!
        And there’s nothing to cover! Under favorable conditions, 1 rkksn capable of solving the problem of causing unacceptable damage to the United States.
        Therefore, I would add another 10 Borev-M to these areas, so that our incredible partners would have no doubt about the seriousness of our intentions.
        Believe me, it will be calmer!
  29. shamil
    shamil 2 June 2013 12: 35
    +3
    then new planes then new ships with boats SO HOLD
  30. indiggo
    indiggo 2 June 2013 12: 42
    +2
    I repeat once again that there will be more than 10 Boreas. Do not forget that many boats will go to salvage after 2020. alas, not all boats will go for modernization ... some in a sad state
    1. Rattenfanger
      Rattenfanger 2 June 2013 13: 36
      0
      Where does this information come from, if not secret?
  31. Lopatov
    Lopatov 2 June 2013 12: 54
    +2
    This is all, of course, good. But how are they going to cover positional areas in the southern latitudes? After all, the Americans do not slurp cabbage soup.
    1. Dmitriy2009
      Dmitriy2009 2 June 2013 17: 19
      0
      You listen to these storytellers a little more, everything is removed from them in Hollywood. Bloated soap bubble.
  32. indiggo
    indiggo 2 June 2013 12: 55
    0
    I think they’ll figure it out)
  33. shamil
    shamil 2 June 2013 12: 56
    0
    to a strong Russia and the countries of the former USSR to tighten tightly, together we are strength!
  34. indiggo
    indiggo 2 June 2013 13: 03
    +3
    they betrayed us, why do we need them now ?? I think that Belarus, eastern and southern Ukraine. maybe Kazakhstan. and the rest on exit.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 2 June 2013 18: 44
      +2
      they betrayed us, why do we need them now ?? Yes, we betrayed ourselves then. What, is it not ours that the top of the CPSU, headed by Gorbachev, with the active support of the West, in spite of all the laws, destroyed the USSR?
    2. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 3 June 2013 05: 39
      0
      It is Russia that has betrayed them. First peace, friendship, chewing gum, and then tobacco apart.
  35. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 2 June 2013 13: 13
    +3
    To live to see this 2014. The situation in the world is tense to the limit and a new technology is vital for Russia yesterday.
  36. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 June 2013 14: 00
    +1
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: MIKHAN
    it’s time to announce mass mobilization.

    Well, you obviously got excited!
    But the leadership of the country needs to seriously think about the seriousness of "dragging a landmine" to our southern borders at the Security Council.

    I’m also talking about it ..
  37. Andrew
    Andrew 2 June 2013 14: 16
    +1
    Ballistic missile submarines are the most invisible element of deterrence. It is no accident that the Americans focus on them. And it would not hurt us to increase their number, and part of the aircraft can be kept in reserve, as carriers of ordinary KR and TNW.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 2 June 2013 18: 55
      0
      Quote: andrei
      Ballistic missile submarines are the most invisible element of deterrence. It is no accident that the Americans focus on them. And it would not hurt us to increase their number, and part of the aircraft can be kept in reserve, as carriers of ordinary KR and TNW.

      The Americans have a much smaller territory of the country than ours, so they laid emphasis on SSBNs. We are focusing on the PGRK, since the areas of the areas of possible dispersal are huge and their detection on combat duty and tracking them in real time is a task for US intelligence means impossible now, which means that retaliation is inevitable for us in case of nuclear strike on Russia.
      My question is different: will Russia begin to hit the United States with strategic nuclear weapons if they start a war against us with non-nuclear high-precision weapons?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 3 June 2013 00: 59
        +1
        Quote: Nitup
        Will Russia begin to hit the United States with strategic nuclear weapons if they start a war against us with non-nuclear high-precision weapons?

        Do not even hesitate! The top state leadership of the Russian Federation stated that it reserves the right to use nuclear weapons first in the event of an attack on the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation and in the event of a threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the state.
        BUT! The first attack of our deterrence forces will be the countries from whose territory the attack was committed. I somehow did not notice those who wished to play the role of the SCAPE OF REMEDY, analyzing the statements of the governments of the NATO member countries. Brita and Amera are particularly puzzled by this problem because of their pathological dislike for Russia.
        But the principle of raking in heat with the wrong hands does not give them peace of mind: that’s why they are constantly looking for the next SAAKASHVIL, hoping for a successful drafting, from which good political devidents can be learned.
  38. malikszh
    malikszh 2 June 2013 15: 44
    -2
    I think that the news for wives of submariners is not very happy husbands will be gone for months.
    1. smile
      smile 2 June 2013 16: 08
      +3
      malikszh
      The wives of submariners, in theory, should know who they marry.
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 3 June 2013 00: 18
      +2
      Quote: malikszh
      husbands will be leaving for months.

      Submariners go on for months. That's just on a new good hardware the chance of a normal return is significantly higher
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 June 2013 01: 09
      +3
      Quote: malikszh
      news for wives submariners not very happy husbands will be leaving for months.

      Our wives are our rear. The rear is reliable and more than once checked by autonomies. We serve the Motherland together: with the whole family, otherwise it is impossible. Debt and painful separation for loving hearts ... But what a joy MEET! It can not be compared with anything when he went on a hike, and my daughter lay wrapped in an envelope, and you come back - and SHE RUNS YOU SUMMER! It is necessary to survive! In my opinion, for these moments of happiness Worth living!
  39. lucidlook
    lucidlook 2 June 2013 15: 52
    -1
    strategic nuclear deterrence tasks not only through the North, but also through the South Pole

    And they said that infa about underground boats are empty rumors. But no, here it is, a visible confirmation that the Borei will attack from the South Pole!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 June 2013 01: 16
      +1
      Quote: lucidlook
      infa about underground boats are empty rumors.

      Exactly! These are called ICBM position areas. One drawback: always in the specified coordinates, and there is no way to fall down 4 tram stops. And so the real "underground boats"!
      1. lucidlook
        lucidlook 3 June 2013 17: 54
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        They are called positional areas of the ICBMs.

        Wow! So will the Boreas be used to install mines at the South Pole ?! FANTASY!
  40. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 2 June 2013 16: 09
    +6
    Guys, the General Staff again smoked a hookah and gave another populist stupidity

    1. Strategic missile submarine cruiser DOESN'T need to risk breaking through the Faro-Islamic border, risking every minute of being detected by the Orions anti-submarine missile. The modern SSBN has the ability to shell Washington directly from the pier in Gadzhievo))
    Simply put - with the advent of SLBMs with a firing range of more than 8 thousand km, there was no longer any need for long trips - the boat can shoot directly from its own guards, defending against anti-cold frigates and Orions with a multi-meter layer of Arctic ice (Kara Sea, etc.) Simple, safe and effective

    2. SLBM Bulava - the main weapon of "Boreyev" - has a firing range of ~ 9 thousand km
    For comparison, from New York to Cape Town directly 7000 nautical miles (12,5 thousand km)
    How were they going to shoot across the South Pole ... if only from the Indian Ocean across New Zealand request ... stupid statement of admirals bursting with money and impunity, in the absence of real news

    ps / despite all the bright slogans and cool statements (one cooler than the other) - the first combat patrol of Borea is planned only for next year
    1. malikszh
      malikszh 2 June 2013 17: 54
      0
      yes everyone understands this, this is the main presence in all latitudes of the oceans, let's say the United States looks there Russia and here Russia is a moral and psychological attack!
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 2 June 2013 20: 57
      +1
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      The modern SSBN has the possibility of shelling Washington directly from the pier in Gadzhievo))

      I'm afraid this is a purely "propaganda" option. The boat can only shoot "from the pier" if it is fully ready to fire (missiles loaded, command given, etc.)
      That is, if we strike first (which is unbelievable under current politics) or in the event that we fully revealed the preparations for the attack and managed to prepare a retaliatory strike.
      In the current reality, in the event of a sudden strike, I am afraid all boats "at the pier" will be destroyed in the very first minutes.
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      How were they going to shoot across the South Pole ... if only from the Indian Ocean over New Zealand ... stupid statement of admirals bursting with money and impunity, in the absence of real news

      I agree, it is not clear why this is necessary, who will cover the deployment of boats there, etc.
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      ps / despite all the bright slogans and cool statements (one cooler than the other) - the first combat patrol of Borea is planned only for next year

      I believe that everything depends on the pace of missile production and their reliability.
      The expansion and improvement of the production base is the key issue.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 3 June 2013 00: 23
        +1
        Quote: Odyssey
        The boat can shoot "from the pier" only if it is completely ready to fire (missiles are loaded, a command is given, etc.)

        ALWAYS are ALWAYS loaded on the first-line submarine of combat readiness with a package of war tapes. So for a combat salvo only an order is required. And the distance from the pier home base is enough. So not everything is as sad as it seems wink
    3. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing 2 June 2013 23: 57
      -1
      US submarines keep Russian SSBNs under surveillance even in Arctic areas covered by pack ice http://rian.ru/defense_safety/20090715/177451393.html

      Opinion of the RPKSN captain on ice shooting
      http://vnmazurenko.blogspot.ru/2010/09/465.html
      after the words In fact, I want to comment on all these Arctic ice diving, especially in terms of the use of missile weapons

      So it is likely that while the boat breaks the ice to launch missiles, the war will end for her.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 3 June 2013 00: 37
        +1
        Quote: Dunno
        So it is likely that while the boat breaks the ice to launch missiles, the war will end for her.

        Here, the memories of sailors from the time of the sailing fleet would still look good, but also in high latitudes it was not easy lol All the same, the 667B is now a tangibly old project, not very adapted specifically for ice use. In my memory, rocket launches from under the ice have never been transferred because of the ice situation.
        1. Genady1976
          Genady1976 3 June 2013 00: 54
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          and you can’t shoot rockets through the ice? request
          1. Know-nothing
            Know-nothing 3 June 2013 07: 41
            +1
            R-39UTTH "Bark" was supposed to.
        2. Know-nothing
          Know-nothing 3 June 2013 07: 49
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          Quote: Misantrop
          In my memory, rocket launches from under the ice have never been transferred because of the ice situation.

          In a peaceful environment - of course. The question is how long after receiving the command the boat will be able to shoot and whether it will be destroyed during this time.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 3 June 2013 09: 58
            +1
            Quote: Dunno
            The question is how long after receiving the command the boat will be able to shoot and whether it will be destroyed during this time.
            In this case, this is not critical, since the strike is planned to be ANSWERED. More important is not the time of application, but its inevitability. On the 667B there were some problems with this, as can be seen from the article. But already BDR and BDRM, the patrol routes of which were planned to be located precisely in areas of continuous ice fields, were better adapted to this. At least the fact that the BDRM is capable of breaking ice up to 5 m thick by the hull (having for this purpose special ice reinforcements of the hull and deckhouses) and the shape of the shaft covers designed to discharge ice from them specifically regular opening methodalready says a lot wink Further, with ice fields of such thickness, the question of the possibility of detecting a ship from above is simply not realistic. Especially given that the nominal patrol depth is about 200 m.The attack from below is also poorly real since the arrival of Project 971 ships on the fleet, they are able to reliably cover the patrol area, and their own stealth parameters make it possible to tease US ASW even in those areas where they themselves have always been considered strong enough. Well, the same RSM 54 "Sineva" is perfectly adapted to hack even an undisturbed missile defense system, let alone a very beaten as a result of the conflict ... request
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 June 2013 02: 00
      +2
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      the General Staff again smoked a hookah and gave another populist stupidity

      1. The statement is so bold, so ridiculous in its naive stupidity!
      Dear, if you do not know, but in the GEN headquarters, fools are not kept. All statements are strictly regulated and checked 1000 times. FIRM - GUARANTEES! This is the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, not Ilf and Petrov's Horns and Hooves.
      2. Orions do not detect submarines! These are the build-up forces, and they act strictly on the instructions of the command post of the PLB, placing cut-off or intercepting barriers of the RSL in the path of the probable withdrawal of the submarine.
      3. WASHINGTON is better fired at from the south by an open air defense system.
      4. "..a stupid statement of admirals, who are obsessed with money and impunity, in the absence of real news" is sanctioned at least by the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense, or by the Prime Minister's (President's) media relations assistant, and only at the right time and in the right place.
      5. "The first combat patrol of Boreas is scheduled for next year only." This fact alone strains the leadership of the US Navy to take measures to counter the enemy. The stake is very high: US national security.
      If you do not understand this, then ... one can talk about "admirals who have gone nuts from money and impunity (?)."
      But here's the question: how productive is this rhetoric?
  41. Vtel
    Vtel 2 June 2013 17: 02
    +1
    OK, now all the poles will be under our control. They won’t detect us under the ice. And it’s better to shoot closer to them - they will receive a gift faster. Glory to the Russian Navy!
  42. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 2 June 2013 17: 22
    +1
    1. Strategic missile submarine cruiser DO NOT risk

    . Comrade, write me down as a strategist, huh?
    1. trenitron
      trenitron 2 June 2013 17: 54
      +1
      All I found out, you are recorded and waiting
  43. sanych your division
    sanych your division 2 June 2013 17: 57
    -5
    through the South Pole ... hmm and this is expedient forgive me? and then they’ve already charged ... maybe on the moon we’ll still unroll what thread? build learn. and where you will go it is no one but enemies kalyshyt. the main thing is to be afraid
  44. Matt eversmann
    Matt eversmann 2 June 2013 18: 03
    -9
    The idea is very good and correct. But there are some problems. First, in order to build and put into operation ships of this type, it takes a lot of time. Secondly, missiles are needed for submarine missile carriers, and the Bulava put into service does not meet modern requirements. Thirdly, qualified crews are needed to control submarines. There is nowhere to take them.
    1. Ivanovich47
      Ivanovich47 2 June 2013 18: 33
      +2
      I think so, you are the chief engineer of the Northern shipyards. Let me ask you a question: what requirements does not "Bulava" satisfy?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 3 June 2013 02: 07
        +1
        Quote: Ivanovich47
        You are the chief engineer of the Northern Shipyards. Let me ask you a question: what requirements does not "Bulava" satisfy?

        I recommend this question to be addressed to the Moscow Institute of Heat Engineering or the Navy Civil Code.
  45. bones
    bones 2 June 2013 18: 24
    -1
    all in words. in fact, due to the withdrawal of canned boats, at least not a damn will change.
  46. max73
    max73 2 June 2013 18: 29
    +5
    comments, of course, in the spirit ... go ahead! ... keep it up! glory to the Navy! .. but, dear ones, why didn’t anyone ask a question: why haven’t Our boats been there for decades? After all, no one canceled Diego Garcia and Guam with these? less euphoria of the day off, comrades, and more patriotism in the good sense of the word and in real life, and not imposingly sitting at the computer ..)
  47. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 2 June 2013 18: 36
    +1
    I read the comments of my friends. It turns out that they are all fleet admirals. I have nothing to do here. Not matured to them ...
  48. SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS 2 June 2013 18: 54
    -3
    Quote: max73
    comments, of course, in the spirit ... go ahead! ... keep it up! glory to the Navy! .. but, dear ones, why didn’t anyone ask a question: why haven’t Our boats been there for decades? After all, no one canceled Diego Garcia and Guam with these?

    Yeah .... Guam is still awl in zh.pe! And this base is not weakly covered. What, under water, what surface connections, what from the air .... Now personally from myself: "No matter how mattresses are drawn on the world stage, this can scare minor countries .. BUT ONLY NOT RUSSIA! In the Pentagon, the entire headquarters probably have eyes they start to twitch and the pants get wet from the words "Borey, Poplar, Tu-160, S-300, BZHRK, etc."
  49. SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS 2 June 2013 19: 04
    0
    Then I read the news that the restoration of the submarines of project 945 Barracuda and project 945A Condor, titanium killers of aircraft carriers began ... As they say, they were on conservation, and they were not given to the mattress to be torn to pieces in the 90s. After modernization in terms of characteristics, these boats will be similar to Northwind class boats.
  50. Capt.stryker
    Capt.stryker 2 June 2013 19: 31
    -7
    By and large, all comments on this article are stinking with rotten rya-potsriotic pathos! It can be seen that the people are stupidly zombie! Nobody wants to face the truth. Read at least this material, study the tables in it, calmly, without tantrums and bile - and take a sober look at things !!!

    Recurrence of underwater giantomania
    Russia today can not afford the contents of dozens of nuclear submarine missile carriers

    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/16086
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... 2 June 2013 21: 14
      +3
      You, apparently, are zombified by complete rotten Western propaganda, if you write comments so playfully here.
    2. Ivanovich47
      Ivanovich47 2 June 2013 21: 21
      +1
      Why so rude: Capt.Stryker: all comments on this article are stinking with rotten rya-potsriotic pathos! It can be seen that the people are stupidly zombie! Dear Ukrainian neighbors, do not transfer Russophobian hatred to this site. I look through UNIAN, this is a Ukrainian news agency. There is the humiliation of opponents in law. Please remove the disrespectful words to the people.
    3. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 2 June 2013 22: 15
      +3
      Sobriety does not smell there. The article by reference is completely stupid. The main point - after all, there are enough 4 SLBMs for frogmen and small-shavens, why then Russia needs more. And because they have more GDP. But these countries never pursued an independent policy, always looked back at their overseas uncle. They have been intimidated by the USSR, Russia all their lives and think that a good uncle will protect them. Therefore, it seems like it makes no sense to contain a large submarine fleet. And this uncle has long been whispering to the geyrope terrible tales about the Russian bear, she has it in full. But Europeans are accustomed to such a pose, such is their orientation. wassat