Finland in World War II

Last month, the Finnish Defense Forces unveiled an archive of 160 000 photographs from the Second World War era. These are 1939 — 1945 snapshots describing the Winter War between Finland and the Soviet Union 1939 — 1940, Finland’s military actions when it became an ally of Nazi Germany in the 1941 — 1945 war against the Soviet Union, and the Lapland War — the hostilities between Finland and Germany in September 1944 - April 1945 of the year.

The swastika is one of the most ancient and widespread graphic symbols. From 1918 to 1945, the swastika is depicted on the banners of the Air Force and tank troops of Finland, and currently on the presidential standard.

Snowmobile with a propeller and a swastika, Haapasaari, Finland. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Flamethrower in action. In the forest near the village of Niinisalo in Finland, 1 July 1942. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Military operations over Yamijärvi, Finland, 17 July 1942. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Waiting for the approaching enemy aircraft. This incredible device is an acoustic locator. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Finnish soldier in Mikkeli, Finland, September 4 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Finnish tank crew, 8 July 1941 of the year. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Evacuation of civilians, 1 July 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Downed Soviet aircraft. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Hitler's visit to Finland in June 1942. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Helsinki bombing by Soviet aircraft, November 30 1939. On this day, the Soviet Union attacked Finland. The number of divisions - 21, the total number of soldiers - 450 thousands. Winter War has begun. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Wounded in Helsinki. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Lit building on Senate Square in Helsinki. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Helsinki streets after the bombing. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Anti-aircraft gun in Helsinki. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Vyborg. Then still in Finland. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Finnish armored train. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Experimental transportation of troops in cold weather. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Military Dog School Hämeenlinna. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Rocket launched from the forest. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Street fighting in Medvezhegorsk, Russia. The city was occupied by Finland for three years. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Frozen soldier. (Photo by SA-kuva):

About 400 Russian soldiers killed in battle, 1 February 1940. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Frozen horse near Ruhtinaanmäki, 21 January 1940. (Photo by SA-kuva):

A soldier in a protective suit against a gas attack. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Downed Soviet aircraft. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Restoration of the bombed tram tracks. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Two girls on the ruins of the Martin Cathedral in Turku, Finland. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Soviet prisoners of war. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Rising out of the water locomotive. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Air-raid hospital in Mikkeli, Finland. (Photo by SA-kuva):

An explosion at a military facility in the port in Helsinki, 14 September 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Bomb attack. (Photo by SA-kuva):

The dead German soldier. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Cathedral in Vyborg after the bombing. (Photo by SA-kuva):

A thirteen year old boy in the hospital. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Bombers over the field, 2 July 1944. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Burning village Nurmoila, Finland. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Helmets of dead Soviet soldiers, 28 July 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Finnish motorcycle and swastika tank. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Disguised bike, 17 August 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Soldier and reindeer on the ice in northern Lapland, Finland, October 26 1941. (Photo by SA-kuva):

Comments

[xetai9977]

War is scary!

[avt]

Quote: xetai9977

War is scary!

Yes, not a computer shooter. Especially when it becomes everyday, probably more correct, everyday reality and people just survive in it, but think that they live.

[Greyfox]

Soldier and reindeer on ice in northern Lapland, Finland, October 26, 1941 of the year.

Deer on the left. (well, just in case ...)

[Kostya pedestrian]

And if you look closely, the deer shows the middle horn to this soldier.

and in the photo, where our dead soldiers, wallets are all turned upside down - foolishness?

[Samurai]

In war, looting is a common thing, and all armies sin without exception!

[Pimply]

And here his FIG knows, everything mixed up there: looting / collection of documents and personal data, etc. The usual thing for most wars

[Greyfox]

Cons, as I understand it, from relatives of a deer ... Offended ...

[Kostya pedestrian]

The Finns were never something significant, only thanks to the Soviet Union, they established themselves as a people, and then we had a knife in the side.

And we also helped them restore the economy after the war by purchasing the lion's share of Finnish products. But after NTV showed a report about their sadistic attitude towards children, especially towards Russians, I lost all respect for them.

And they are no warriors, just I.V. Stalin, did not stand up, got up and shot the wrong people, and the Finns fell into the hands of victory, and even then, only until 1943, and then, as mongrel, they grinned against their allies, which further confirms that they are like grass in the field, where the wind is, there they are.

The eternal memory of Soviet Aviation and our pilots!

[Bongo]

I can not agree with you. As an autonomy within the Russian Empire, it existed long before the formation of the USSR. Although it was the Russians who helped preserve the identity and language, there were all the prerequisites for the absorption of Finland by Sweden, with subsequent assimilation.
As soldiers Finns showed themselves very well, the motivation for the defense of their homeland was very high.
We must pay tribute to the political wisdom of Carl Gustav Emil Mannenheim, who took his country out of the war in time. At the same time, it should be understood that if only Stalin was sure of an easy victory "with little blood". this would not have saved Finland from the occupation.

[Rider]

Quote: Bongo

At the same time, it should be understood that if only Stalin was sure of an easy victory "with little blood". this would not have saved Finland from the occupation.

specify what time your statement refers to.
because after the Second World War, the Red Army (and after the Soviets army) could roll any European army into a pancake.
It’s another matter that at that time Finland didn’t need anything else, since it refused to cooperate with the West and satisfied ALL the requirements of the USSR, both territorial and military.

[smile]

Bongo
The Finns also had a motivation to seize our territories (right from the moment of rejecting part of our territory with the help of the German corps), which exceeded the territory of Finland by 2 times. I hope you didn’t forget about the dreams of Great Suomi?
The political wisdom of this consistent hostility woke up after we hacked their defensive system to the full depth within a week, losing much less than the Finns and the country led by this fascist henchman was doomed .. tada yeah ... wise Karl fussed and stopped make friends with bad Hitler ....
I hope you also remember that only in the newly created Suomi after the defeat of the Red Finns inflicted by German troops more people were killed than died on both sides during the fighting ... concentration camps were created ... Nazism was unusually popular, it was created shyutskor - translation-security units ... does not resemble anything?
So, praise the good Stalin, who destroyed the Finnish army a second time, this time with little blood, but did not occupy Finland by forgiving its aggressive plans - the main thing for us was to ensure our security, as in the year 39.
And they were good soldiers, for twenty years they, with the help of the leading countries of Europe, have been actively preparing for an aggressive coalition war against us ... have prepared.

[Kostya pedestrian]

Watch the magnificent comedy of the Finnish-Soviet production "behind the matches" just about the Finnish life within Russia, where peaceful Finns look very friendly and interesting; I've also been to Sartaval on Ladoga - the most picturesque places.

But there is its own specifics of the battle, and even though I share the authority of Stalin in organizing the management of industry and collaboration. In military affairs, I always admired Trotsky, Zhukov, Rokossovsky and Rybalko, and these are just a few names of talented military leaders.

And not one of them took part in the Soviet-Finnish war. Therefore, the offensive and the rear were built mediocre. I didn’t have to deal with Finns, but the Swedish soldiers, in my opinion, are characterized by the logic of a jackal - to snatch and run away, and they are not mentally prepared for a long war, unlike a Russian person.

PieS: look, they lose their traditions and their culture without war, practically work for China and India. Although it suits me, for me, Saracen is more dear to the crusader.

[rodevaan]

Quote: Kostya pedestrian

for me - Saracen is dearer than the crusader.

“You know,” I recently, recognizing the rotten grin of the West getting better and better — I begin to agree with you! Saracen, he is even a Mohammedan - but he is open, and all his actions are open. And the western trash - those rot, - they will trample you in the mud and the last cowards will be taken away.

[Corsair]

Quote: Bongo

I can not agree with you. As an autonomy within the Russian Empire, it existed long before the formation of the USSR. Although it was the Russians who helped preserve the identity and language, there were all the prerequisites for the absorption of Finland by Sweden, with subsequent assimilation.
As soldiers Finns showed themselves very well, the motivation for the defense of their homeland was very high.
We must pay tribute to the political wisdom of Carl Gustav Emil Mannenheim, who took his country out of the war in time. At the same time, it should be understood that if only Stalin was sure of an easy victory "with little blood". this would not have saved Finland from the occupation.

Stalin did not need the occupation of Finland, otherwise it would have been the 16 Soviet Republic already in the 1940 year ...

[Parabelum]

Quote: Kostya pedestrian

Yes, and they are no warriors

This is what you tell the 100 people who died during the Winter War. After all, if the Finns are no warriors, then ours did not know how to fight at all? As smart people say: "He who does not remember his past is doomed to relive it again."

[Landwarrior]

Quote: Parabelum

This is what you tell the 100 people who died during the Winter War. After all, if the Finns are no warriors, then ours did not know how to fight at all? As smart people say: "He who does not remember his past is doomed to relive it again."

And nevertheless, for the Soviet Union, such losses (by the way, the losses amount to about 200000, but all this together, with the missing, frostbitten, died from diseases, etc.) were not critical. Yes, scary, creepy, but not fatal. But for the Finns, alas. By February 1940, when the armistice was concluded, Mannerheim had enough troops only to somehow keep the front (which was not continuous, there were "windows"), in addition, one must remember about the 18th and 168th divisions, which were sitting in " boilers "- they had to either be contained or destroyed, which also required manpower and resources.
The winter war was a sobering lesson. If it weren’t, a year later, in 1941 the situation could be many times worse.

[Parabelum]

I agree with you, some conclusions have been drawn from this bloody lesson. But among these conclusions was not "Yes, and they are no warriors." The Finns knew how to fight, and this is recognized by all historians.

[Kostya pedestrian]

I repeat once again: most of the losses of that war were from machine-gun fire in the ranks of attackers from the lowlands, such results were achieved by the SS fascists, chained by their "colleagues" in pillboxes during the retreat of SS units, but this in no way speaks of their tactical and strategic skill.

So this is not a victory for the Finns, but a disregard for our commanders, who are accustomed to war in an open field with cavalry with a saber.

[Parabelum]

Honestly, I don't understand your logic. I immediately recall the words of the stoker Baklanov from Tsushima: "Now, if both sides were armed only with shafts, then the Japanese would never be able to resist us. The people are small, weak."
Then what do you say about the operation near Lake Tolvajärvi, where the Finns set up a twenty thousandth division with the efforts of one regiment and four battalions? Also not a tactical and strategic victory? Or the battle of Suomussalmi, when significant forces of the Red Army came to the aid of one surrounded Soviet division and ... suffered a crushing fiasco, while having a technical and human advantage?
I will also repeat any defeat from the dolby *** ma of our own command, this is already the victory of the enemy, both strategically and tactically.

[Uzoliv]

Quote: Landwarrior

Nevertheless, for the Soviet Union, such losses (incidentally, the losses are about 200000, but all of this together with missing persons, frostbite, died from illnesses, etc.) were not critical.

According to Krivosheev’s reference book (Military Publishing House 1993), our irrevocable losses (killed) are 126875 people, plus sanitary losses (injured) 264908. The total losses make 391783 by making an elementary mathematical addition.

[Landwarrior]

Uzoliv, I have a friend professor historian who is engaged in the Winter War, and for a long time and seriously. The figure voiced by me is from him.
And why put the wounded with the dead? Yes, you can’t put the seriously wounded into service, but they did not all die, so there’s nothing to write them down to.

[Uzoliv]

You see, I did not quite understand the figure that you brought these - 200000. Either it is killed, or total losses. That's why I brought, so to speak, official figures. This is for 1993, maybe now something has changed, but I do not think that in a smaller direction.
And about the fact that I wrote them down where it is not necessary. I used the recording scheme that is in this directory: four graphs - killed, wounded, general and daily average (I did not specify the latter). Just such a recording technique. No malicious intent.

[Landwarrior]

Taking into account the losses in "Winter" in general, it's a disaster, to be honest. My great-grandfather fought in the 208th rifle regiment. 18th SD, was killed in February 1940, the funeral came in March, when the war was already over. However, a couple of months later another paper came, stating that he was not killed, but missing. The great-grandmother's pension was immediately taken away for the loss of the breadwinner, which was appointed shortly before.
There are 208 sp. there are already about a dozen people there. Maybe they are more unknown. And for all, not a single archive of any information. If I hadn’t kept the documents, there would have been nothing to prove ...

[Corsair]

Quote: Landwarrior

If it weren’t, in a year, in 1941 the situation could be many times worse.

Leningrad could have taken the rally, given its extremely dangerous proximity to the border and HOW events would have turned after the loss of such a significant point, it’s scary to even imagine ...

[xetai9977]

We will be objective. We will hold out against the enemy far superior to them in manpower and equipment and inflict SUCH losses .... The Finns fought very competently. The scale of the personality of Mannerheim, who was a lieutenant general of the imperial army (awarded with golden weapons for courage), also played a significant role. . Despite Hitler’s pressure, he did not move the Finnish troops to Leningrad, but confined himself to the Karelian Isthmus.

[Landwarrior]

Quote: xetai9977

Despite Hitler’s pressure, he never moved Finnish troops to Leningrad, but limited himself to the Karelian Isthmus.

Well, here I’ll disappoint you a little - the Finns did not have heavy artillery to break through the defense, and therefore they could not break through to Leningrad.

[AlexW]

Hitler stubbornly offered him heavy artillery. With German calculations and without. Mannerheim did not kick out in every possible way.

[Landwarrior]

AlexW , something in the memoirs of Mannerheim did not find such a moment
"You can't wash a black dog white." (c) if you know what I mean

[Corsair]

Quote: xetai9977

We will be objective. We will hold out against the enemy far superior to them in manpower and equipment and inflict such losses .... The Finns fought very competently

The "Manerheim Line" is the most powerful and most modern SD, the Red Army took "head on" in the polar winter, in poorly explored, difficult terrain, without being able to maneuver to bypass (as the Nazis did with the "Maginot Line"). So the losses of Soviet troops are quite comparable with the severity of the tasks assigned to them ... The Finnish troops are honored by how they were able to organize the defense, and as you know, defending is simpler and easier.

[family tree]

Quote: xetai9977

Despite Hitler’s pressure, he never moved Finnish troops to Leningrad, but limited himself to the Karelian Isthmus.

They rested on KaUR, and therefore did not move. "Well, I didn't sneak ..."

The document received on September 5, 1941, three days before the start of the blockade, from the General Staff to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Finland: "An attack on the Petersburg fortifications located between the border and Petersburg will probably require many casualties, since it is highly protected, and is it not better take it from the south, or is it possible to force the inhabitants of the city to capitulate with the help of hunger. "
Also known is the letter from the Finnish Ambassador to Berlin Kivimäki to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Witting, where he strongly recommended "to get Germany to completely and completely destroy St. Petersburg, since it is a constantly attractive force for the Russian population." This "confidential letter" was soon sent to President Ryti.

[Kostya pedestrian]

order the soldiers to attack in loose snow from the back with machine guns that cannot be reached with grenades - and so on up to eight attacks per day.

How many days will it take, say, for ten calculations of "Maxims" in DZoTs to mow such a quantity on a hill with forest plantations?

There was no art preparation, the landing was minimal, tanks in the forest ?, there were no flanking attacks by the sea. In short, the same thing when Budyonny, not with the help of Stalin, laid down Russian soldiers near Warsaw, losing to the small garrison of the Polish army.

Not the soldiers win, but the commanders, and the more far-sighted and wiser the commander, the more chances the soldier has to drink for the Victory!

[i.xxx-1971]

Not Budyonny, but Tukhachevsky.

[Dima190579]

And now and many years ago, the war brought nothing but suffering and does not bring and does not bring. God forbid no one to war.

[Kostya pedestrian]

"An ancient swastika ?!", hehe, have seen the ancient!

[Parabelum]

Here you are again wrong, the swastika was approved by Hitler in the summer of 1920 as a symbol of the National Socialist German Workers Party.
From 1918 to 1945, the swastika is depicted on the banners of the Finnish Air Force and armored forces, and nowadays - on the presidential standard.
The Finnish swastika is "older" than the German one given to you, even by two years, but still older.

[Kostya pedestrian]

Or maybe the Finns threw Hitler to the Germans, some very non-local ones, google "simo hayha".
And what? How is the idea? Use the mishandled dude so that the Germans can kill the aborigines of peaceful and good Europeans, then the Russians, destroy the German, Slavic, Baltic and Russian peoples, and then settle the insisting Aryans on our lands. Worthy of wevesa himself, and this one will be according to the ancient Vedas.

[Parabelum]

Eeee Simo Haiha? This is a Finnish sniper, if my memory serves me right. What does the swastika have to do with it? You blow my brain. I don’t see a causal link between the sniper, Hitler and the use of the Finnish swastika before the Nazis.

[Kovrovsky]

Hitler arrived in Finland and was met by President Ryti. Mannerheim did not come to meet, allegedly saying that the marshal could not meet the corporal. The photographs are of high quality.

[revnagan]

They were given little ... The unfinished forest grows again ...

[Samurai]

Something I do not understand you. At 39, the Finns fought for the independence of their country, but the Soviet Union was just the same aggressor. What should they give them?

[Rider]

Quote: Samuray

Something I do not understand you ___ Why should they give them?

Well, at least for this: One of the Russian emigrants living at that time not far from Vyborg described the situation in the city as follows: “Everything was resolutely, from high school students to officials who came across the eyes of the victors in Russian uniform and shot at the spot; not far from the Pimenovs' house, two realists were killed, who ran out in their uniforms to greet the whites; 3 cadets were killed in the city; the surrendered red whites cordoned off and drove into the moat; at the same time, they also captured part of the crowd that was on the streets, and indiscriminately finished off in the ditch and in other places. Who was shot, for which, all this was unknown to the heroes of the knife! They were shot in front of the crowd; Before being shot, they tore off watches and rings from people, took away wallets, pulled off boots, clothes, etc. They especially hunted for Russian officers; their number was lost, and among them were their commandant, quartermaster, who had transferred his warehouse to white before this, and a gendarme officer; many were called from apartments, ostensibly to view documents, and they didn’t return home, and relatives then looked for them in heaps of bodies in the moat: even linen was removed from them ”[17].

taken:http://actualhistory.ru/finland_russophobia

[Samurai]

And where did you get such bloodthirstiness from? Those people have long been gone. It's time to learn how to live in peace with neighbors, learn from them and not despise and give

[Rider]

Quote: Samuray

It’s time to learn how to live in peace with neighbors,

perhaps I will dispel your pink mriyas about the "general happiness and well-being of the masses"

interesting article, a couple of quotes (for the seed)
Finland without a mask
Johan Backman

Many Finnish officials expect Russia to fall apart in 2015-2025, with the result that vast territories will move to Finland. According to the Finns, Russia is, in economic terms, an insignificantly small parasite state and a developing country, whose greedy leaders steal all the funds that come from abroad. According to the leading “specialists” of the Finnish Foreign Ministry, the Russians are lazy, greedy and dodgy liars who are not able to lead or take responsibility. The Finnish Foreign Ministry considers the final collapse of Russia as the only positive option for the development of events.

The Finnish media create an extremely negative view of Russians. Finns consider Russia a "developing country." All Russian women, according to the Finns, are prostitutes, and Russian men are arrogant and greedy thieves and bandits. Many wish the final collapse of Russia and, as a result, the transition of Karelia to Finland.

Finnish experts emphasized that the Russian economy is in its infancy and is unlikely to exceed the size of the Finnish economy. The Finns consider Russia an insignificant parasite attached to Finland, which itself cannot use its natural resources.

Every year, Finnish experts predict the final collapse of the Russian economy. According to estimates by the Finnish Embassy in Moscow, the natural resources of Russia are insignificant - having sold all of its gas and oil reserves, Russia would be able to ensure a decent existence for its citizens only for six months, Finnish experts say in Moscow.

taken: http://russway.narod.ru/articles/west06.htm

[Samurai]

Well, what do you propose to do ?! Beat?! especially since this is a forecast and I agree with some conclusions

[Rider]

Quote: Samuray

especially since this is a forecast and I agree with some conclusions

and with which not with these: Finnish experts annually predict the final collapse of the Russian economy (taken from article)

and what we have at the moment: On June 2, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) published on its website the economic results of 2012 for its member countries and accession countries. The volume of GDP of the Russian Federation at purchasing power parity amounted to 3,38 trillion. dollars, Germany - 3,30 trillion. dollars. Thus, Russia became the largest European economy for the first time after the collapse of the USSR.
taken:http://oko-planet.su/finances/financesnews/190772-oesr-rossiya-krupneyshaya-ekon
omika-europy.html

or maybe you agree that Russia will fall apart?
or all Russian women are prostitutes, and men are thieves and drunkards?
you specify your Wishlist.

[Samurai]

Well, my friend, what complexes do you have :-)
I agree with this quote: the greedy leaders of which plunder all the funds coming from abroad.

[Rider]

you please do not shift from a sick head to a healthy one.
After all, you agree with the "theses" of the Finnish side.

[Samurai]

You asked! I replied

[Rider]

and I answered you. that most of the "predictions" of the Finnish "analytekof" are BOTH CRASH.

but you apparently find an excuse for this, something like "well, after all, they are stealing. It means the truth."

[Samurai]

And what is no longer stolen

[Rider]

and where they do not steal?

name the country and I will dispel your illusions.

[Samurai]

Tell me, corruption in the former USSR begins with kindergarten and ends in ritual offices! Now imagine whether teachers or educators in the USA will take a bribe, or for example, try to give a policeman to his paw!

[Rider]

my joy!
You have found yourself on fertile ground!
since you touched the USA
then I assure you there corruption is elevated to the rank of LAW!
Have you heard anything about LOBBY?
there are CORPORATIONS at the CONGRESS level.

so an attempt to expose America as a model of society is doomed to failure.

[Rider]

Quote: Rider

so an attempt to expose America as a model of society is doomed to failure.

reference should read:

so an attempt to expose America as a model of society WITHOUT CORRUPTION is doomed to failure.

[Pimply]

Do you read Finnish?

[Gecko]

Probably we, as "barbarians", do not need to buy Finnish plumbing, but go straight to the street when needed, why do we need to paint primitive dugouts with paint and why do we need their tires for backward wooden carts.

[rodevaan]

Quote: Rider

Quote: Samuray

It’s time to learn how to live in peace with neighbors,

perhaps I will dispel your pink mriyas about the "general happiness and well-being of the masses"

interesting article, a couple of quotes (for the seed)
Finland without a mask
Johan Backman

Many Finnish officials expect Russia to fall apart in 2015-2025, with the result that vast territories will move to Finland. According to the Finns, Russia is, in economic terms, an insignificantly small parasite state and a developing country, whose greedy leaders steal all the funds that come from abroad. According to the leading “specialists” of the Finnish Foreign Ministry, the Russians are lazy, greedy and dodgy liars who are not able to lead or take responsibility. The Finnish Foreign Ministry considers the final collapse of Russia as the only positive option for the development of events.

The Finnish media create an extremely negative view of Russians. Finns consider Russia a "developing country." All Russian women, according to the Finns, are prostitutes, and Russian men are arrogant and greedy thieves and bandits. Many wish the final collapse of Russia and, as a result, the transition of Karelia to Finland.

Finnish experts emphasized that the Russian economy is in its infancy and is unlikely to exceed the size of the Finnish economy. The Finns consider Russia an insignificant parasite attached to Finland, which itself cannot use its natural resources.

Every year, Finnish experts predict the final collapse of the Russian economy. According to estimates by the Finnish Embassy in Moscow, the natural resources of Russia are insignificant - having sold all of its gas and oil reserves, Russia would be able to ensure a decent existence for its citizens only for six months, Finnish experts say in Moscow.

taken: http://russway.narod.ru/articles/west06.htm

- Yes, they beat this chukhnik, and we will beat, if necessary again. In the Winter and World War II, every fifth Chukhonite was destroyed. That's what they are now sitting in neutrality for 70 years. Not just like that. And piss at one word Russia.

[Rider]

I will continue

(taken from there)

Well, what do Finns think of themselves?
When Finland joined the European Union in 1995, the Finns had an urgent need to prove that their roots, it turns out, are not in Russia in the Volga region, but that they are the chosen people of Europe, the people-lord.
According to a recent study by Finnish scientists, Finns are the original people of Europe, who laid the foundation for European culture and was the first ruler of Europe. The Finnish Foreign Ministry also broadcasts to the whole world about the nobility of Finnish origin.
And besides this, the Finns consider the division of people into higher and lower races natural. In their own opinion, the Finns, they belong to the very top of the racial hierarchy, as they can develop high technologies and use them. Nokia is living proof of this claim. Finns belong to the lower levels of the racial hierarchy, since, according to the Finns, the Russian ignoramuses do not know how to steal or tell jokes.

Finnish history
The Finns participated in the Second World War on the side of fascist Germany. The Finns pursued the same goals as the Nazis: the destruction of Russia, the looting of its wealth and territories, the destruction and enslavement of the people of Russia. Even then, the Finns considered the Russians to be lagging behind in the development of lower race people.
Now the Finns want to abandon any ties with Adolf Hitler, although the Finns attacked the Soviet Union on the side of Hitler in the summer of 1941. Fighting on the side of Hitler, the Finns hoped to implement the idea of ​​Great Finland, to carry out ethnic cleansing there to destroy the Russian population. Petrozavodsk was in Finnish occupation in 1941-44. The Finns created several concentration camps for the Russian civilian population in East Karelia.
The Finns participated in the blockade of Leningrad in the hope of destroying this city. Finnish President Risto Ryti wanted to move the Finnish border to the Neva. The most important figure in the history of Finland, JK Paasikivi even prepared a speech on the occasion of the destruction of Leningrad.
Hitler's defeat in the war was an unbearable blow for the Finns, from which they have not yet retreated. The Finns still do not understand how this fate can be so unfair that it allowed Hitler to lose the war.

and finally
Friends of the terrorists

Finns also provide top-level assistance to Chechen terrorists. When the European Union organized an assembly in Helsinki in 1999, a senior Foreign Minister of Finland, René Nyberg, met with a representative of Chechen terrorists at the hotel during the assembly. This fact came out and caused an unprecedented scandal.

I especially draw attention to the fact that this is the opinion of a FINNISH writer. scientist and publicist about the FINNISH opinion about Russians and about Russia.

Incidentally, I note that ONLY AFTER THE TERRORIST ACT in BOSTON, the address of the Caucasus Center site was closed (you know whose)
Before that, I felt completely at ease on Finnish servers.

[Samurai]

Well, this again, all nations sin! Historians rewrite their history and portray themselves as God's chosen people! But about the negative attitude towards Russia, you did not ask yourself why they so disliked their northern neighbor that made friends with Fascist Germany ...
I will also quote the Russian author on this topic:
I could not imagine then that very many foreigners, especially from youth who had lived in our country for several years (I don’t take diplomats into account - they have a special talk about them), go home if not the enemies of our state, then, in any case, very disappointed in all the good that they heard about the USSR before coming to us. Our reality is completely incompatible with everyday life in most countries I know.
I don’t think the situation has changed in Russia today.

[Rider]

you would bring the name of the author, all of a sudden this is a type of people like (not by the night remembered) Novodvorskaya, which considers the Russian people the dung of history.

and again, according to your words, it turns out that they say we should forgive their shoals, but ours (like the same winter war (although I do not consider it unfair)) cultivate and repent in every way.

[Samurai]

This character served in the KGB in Division 5 and oversaw the Novodvorskys. And about the jambs, what did they do to you personally ???? Again, I repeat that those people are no longer in this world and they have nothing to show! And do not repent! History itself will put everything in its place! Regarding the Winter War, this is ordinary aggression, the USSR attacked Finland, you can at least interpret and whitewash yourself and prove a thousand times that they say that we are right and therefore attacked, but the fact is a fact!

[Rider]

Quote: Samuray

This character served in the KGB in Division 5 and oversaw the Novodvorsky

Well, clearly, and then I followed the cutter.

Quote: Samuray

And do not repent! History itself will put everything in its place!

so she arranged.
the article cited by me is REALS OF THE RECENT PAST
from them it is clearly visible how the Finns relate to us.
and incidents involving the weaning of Russian children and the Kavkaz Center site are directly located.

and you will see from non-resistance 7

[Samurai]

You're wrong! This man served honestly and now lives in retirement in Moscow. He did not betray anyone and was not sold to anyone! It is simply useless to urge patriots to point out flaws!
And regarding the weaning of children, and the Caucasus, let the Foreign Ministry deal with this center. I generally take a neutral position! By the way, I was always amazed at the patriotism of the Slavs born in Kazastan and living there! They do not consider the birthplace of the place where they were born and raised. Strange why!

[Rider]

Quote: Samuray

You're wrong! This man served honestly and now lives in retirement in Moscow. He did not betray anyone and was not sold to anyone!

okay, believe the word.

Quote: Samuray

And regarding the weaning of children, and the Caucasus, let the Foreign Ministry deal with this center

you accidentally did not lose a thread of discussion?
you initially said that they say we have nothing to offend the Finns.
they say (type) in their own right.
and suddenly it turns out that the Finns are not at all white and fluffy and there are no less shoals in front of the Russians, and KOSYAKOV DOES NOT BECOME LESS.

Quote: Samuray

I generally take a neutral position!

Well, definitely from non-resistance.

Quote: Samuray

Slavs born in Kazastan and living there! They do not consider the birthplace of the place where they were born and raised. Strange why!

and this is your spirit in a spiritualistic session
whispered in your ear?

and if touched.
I CONSIDER KAZAKHSTAN AS MY HOMELAND!
as well as Russia, in the army of which he served.

[Samurai]

Well, you are a thread that I did not lose! Do not forget that these Russian children are citizens of Finland, and some have two citizenships! Therefore, it would be better if the Foreign Ministry understands. Remember that before the attack on Finland, the USSR prepared an alternative government from the Finnish communists which was supposed to take the reins of government after the fall of the white whales. Than not a jamb! And what do you mean by the word non-resident ??? Please explain. Moreover, I have nothing to do with Russia or Finland. Well, what a pleasure for you! It is good that you consider Kazakhstan to be your homeland. That would be so :-)

[Rider]

that's exactly what they lost
in your opinion it turned out that the Russians have nothing to show the finals, they say one winter war wrote off everything.

on the war itself.
Yes, it was.
since the USSR needed a friendly (controlled) government in case of a major war.
and extension of borders from Leningrad.
and by the way, having received a plunge at 40m, the Finns learned a lesson, and abandoned the immense priteniya on Korelia and northern Russia almost to the Urals.

but non-resident.
it is a non-resident of violence.
and in your case (since you are not Finnish and not Russian) then it is to be kind at someone else's expense.

[revnagan]

Quote: Samuray

you didn’t ask yourself why they so disliked their northern neighbor that made friends with Fascist Germany ...

Excuse me, dear, did you confuse the chronology of events? Cause and effect?

[Kostya pedestrian]

Good advice for Japan. And then the wolf is looking at Russia.

[Landwarrior]

Well, for what? At least in 1922. And for the Russian massacre in Helsingfors (Helsinki) in the fall of 1917. They had jambs.

[Samurai]

And you mean there are no stocks.

[Landwarrior]

Well, there is, how not to be. Do you know whether I like to enter Finland, having cut to the full extent "Take us, Suomi-Beauty!"
I know that the Finnish border guards do not like her, but I can not help myself

[smile]

Samurai
The Finns, by that time, had been preparing for an aggressive coalition war for 20 years. In the year 39, the immediate plans were to establish a new border with the USSR along the Neva, the southern shore of Lake Ladoga, Svir, Lake Onega and further to the White Sea and the Arctic Ocean (with the inclusion of the Kola Peninsula)
At the same time, Finland’s area was doubled, and the land border with the USSR was more than halved. The border would pass entirely along deep rivers and sea-like lakes. When they agreed with Hitler at the beginning of '41 on a joint attack on us. appetites, of course, increased ...
They fought for the seizure of our lands ... read about the course of bilateral negotiations in 39, and even you will have nothing to argue ... and generally read at least the documents presented in Shirokorad's books "the great intermission". "Baltic land mine of Peter the Great". Mukhin "2 MV. Victims ..." .. only documents. without the author's text ... after that you will stop rambling about the struggle for independence ... if you are not a Russophobe.
By the way, the Finns themselves published almost all their predatory plans ... they hide almost nothing ... but, of course, it's hard to find out if you yourself do not want to abandon the fairy tale so kind to your heart about the innocent victim of the evil Stalin. ..

[revnagan]

Quote: Samuray

What should they give them?

It would have been for something, in general, they would have been razed to the ground. But there was a reason. For "lakhtars" in the 20s, for the map of "Great Suomi", which hung in every Finnish house, which included Petrozavodsk in the future Finland and signed by Mannegraim. For the cut-out border guards, for "Shutskor". And, by the way, nothing threatened the independence of Finland. The "Government of Finland", created by Stalin, was needed only in order to legitimize the fact of the seizure of part of the Finnish territory, because even as a result of the Great Patriotic War, Finland was the USSR Didn't occupy it, did it? Just like in 1939 after the end of the Finnish War. The USSR only moved the border to a safe distance for Leningrad, just business. This is what the big powers did with the small ones all over the world, both then and now. that all the same they gave them little.

[Samurai]

And we also helped them restore the economy after the war by purchasing the lion's share of Finnish products. But after NTV showed a report about their sadistic attitude towards children, especially towards Russians, I lost all respect for them.

Here is a quote from a former KGB officer who visited Finland:
Everything, or almost everything that is produced in the country, is of the highest or best quality. Most imported consumer goods are lower in price than those produced in Finland. Preferences - to their manufacturers. Finnish businessmen have experienced a number of negative effects over the years.
impacts from all sides. “Big Brother” - Russia (“Venya” in Finnish) - crushed through the most necessary - oil, gasoline, fuel. He also crushed through governments that succeeded each other, but gradually developed a calm, dignified relationship with Venya.
The West did not like Soviet-Finnish relations, and therefore it, the West (and especially the Americans), carefully monitored not to let the Finns with their goods into their markets.
In Europe, the Finns were not favored for friendship with us either, and in the Nurd Kaloten, the Northern Union, relations between the five northern European countries are a delicate and incomprehensible matter. Apparently, the Finnish type of businessman developed precisely in these difficult conditions.
So they cooked in their own juice, debugged the economy, came up with new products, new technologies, landscaped the country.

[Kostya pedestrian]

I personally have no hostility to the finals. But the Finnish domestic production, I will never exchange for Finn according to the plan of distant directors and producers, so people in uniform who came to my country to rob, rape and kill will never become heroes or teachers for me. (that war was staged by the Finns at the suggestion of Nazi Germany, and given the failure of the ZOV at 41, and misses in the reaction to intelligence, I had the confidence that there was a betrayal at the highest level, so the winter war was not aggressive, but was provoked the desire to humiliate the military spirit of the USSR before the main crusade against the USSR)

As for the rest, I am a fan of the US auto industry, I prefer Casio's Japanese electronic watch, Nike sneakers and I like to treat myself to French vodka. By the way, the finnish liquor and foam for washing were excellent.

[igordok]

Snowmobile with propeller and swastika

The name of the photo is some kind of funny.

In the first photo, NKL-16 / 42 trophy combat snowmobiles with Finnish identification marks. The Finns and Germans did not have their own, so they enjoyed the trophy with pleasure.

[Greyfox]

They used trophies with pleasure. The 6-th photo above is our T-28,3-I below (with a motorcycle) it looks like our T-26.

[Alexander 1958]

Good afternoon! Some photos cause at least questions .. For example, a photo of a downed Russian plane. For a soldier dressed in a light jacket, the Germans wore such after 1943, a fascist cross is visible i.e. the plane is either German or Finnish. Further .. photo of three wounded prisoners. The headgear on the average soldier is Finnish or German, and the uniform of the shoulder straps is also not Soviet ... The photograph with two Soviet helmets is clearly staged. What brought them by the wave? Alexander 1958

[Landwarrior]

Yes, it's just that everything is mixed up - the Winter War, the Continuation War and the Lapland War. If it were sorted, questions would not arise.

[sudnew.art]

And why are there no photos of the killed Finns? Only Soviet and one German

[Begemot]

I had a mechanic - grandfather - a participant in the war, was captured in Karelia and sat with the Finns in the 1,5 camp of the year. He told me that they did not feed them at all, people died like flies. The lucky chance was to catch lemmings. Only it was necessary to swallow it alive and as quickly as possible, otherwise there were cases when the prisoners pulled the tail almost from the stomach. As for the ability to fight, then in a mountainous-wooded area, attacking with superiority less than 10: 1 is almost a guarantee of defeat.

[Evrepid]

The photos are superb.
It would be necessary to organize an exhibition with photographs on either side and show it to the peoples on both sides of the border.
What would be clear what will happen during the war.

Let the confrontation on the sports field be better.

[Minuteman]

The Mannerheim Line protected only the western and central parts of the Karelian Isthmus to the lakes of Vuoksa, Sukhodolskoye, Otradnoe. But there were still hundreds of kilometers of the Soviet-Finnish border from Lake Ladoga to the Arctic Ocean. Soviet troops could easily get around the Mannerheim line, but instead began to storm it.
It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines! It's all simple on the map - I drew an arrow and bypassed a mustache ... But in reality, there is a complete absence of roads, forests, and swamps. By the way, it was north of the Mannegraim line that several of our divisions were encircled and destroyed. The reason is the lack of roads for maneuvering and supplying units.

[Landwarrior]

Minuteman, well, you got excited with the swamps - winter is still
and about the fact that "instead they began to storm" - here the situation is a little more complicated.
In the late 20s and early 30s, a Soviet agent in Finland handed over to the GRU Red Army copies of albums on the pillboxes of the then Finnish defense line - the so-called. "Enckel's lines" and here no questions arose. There was little information about the so-called "Manerheim Line" and it was contradictory, so they did not know the exact location of the pillboxes, only the approximate area was known.

[pinecone]

Quote: Kovrovsky

Hitler arrived in Finland and was met by President Ryti. Mannerheim did not come to meet, allegedly saying that the marshal could not meet the corporal. The photographs are of high quality.

There is the concept of a diplomatic protocol. The president met the chancellor, who then met with the commander in chief of the country's armed forces.

[Kazanok]

it’s okay so the Finns of the popular red-bellied red-haired Red-bellied piled up ... the scoop waged a purely predatory war and a war of extermination .. I wanted to drive everyone there too to the collective farms ... and here the 3-millionth country hit 180 millionth colossus on the nose ... terrible shame .. so only the red ones could do it ...

[Alexander 1958]

For one beaten, they give two unbeaten ones .. and after a little over five years they piled up the "reds" on the first number and this and that and a dozen more who fell under the hot hand, so only the "reds" can and have enough cauldrons .. Alexander 1958

[Kazanok]

Quote: Alexander 1958

and one beaten two unbeaten give

in .. purely the principle of the red-bellied .... first they will let the yushka to them .. and then they start to think something there ... and the corpses are already under 100 thousand .... however, as always, it was ...

Quote: Alexander 1958

and after a little over five years they piled the "red" on the first number and this and that

the Finns never failed .. washed again .. read the story wise guy ...
and you’ll answer for the cauldron ...

[Alexander 1958]

No, well, not pr ... are you? He called himself a cauldron, and now he is offended .. And as for the answer, come ..

[Was mammoth]

Does the flag oblige? Do you have an alternative story there?

[Kazanok]

I don’t know why the flag is being killed .... I live in Belarus ...

[Kostya pedestrian]

From Zaporizhzhya?

[Kostya pedestrian]

here you are right, they always said to the Reds that on the earth they deceive the trustees and the gods who are not without sex and good and gold - probably from envy and anger.

Here they are the Bolsheviks and paid for the desire to teach the illiterate, to give freedom to farm laborers, to put peasants on their feet, to introduce conveyor technologies and electricity to improve the life of the proletariat.

Not to mention the help in the restoration of identity and culture to the hundreds of peoples inhabiting Russia and neighboring countries.

The silver ones survive here. Otherwise, people like you with chronic diarrhea from the entire park of culture and rest will arrange a toilet.

[albanech]

Nice photos! Thanks to the author!

[shura.mekishin]

Thanks for the nice photos! Author +++

[zmeykiev]

Quote: smile

Bongo
The Finns also had a motivation to seize our territories (right from the moment of rejecting part of our territory with the help of the German corps), which exceeded the territory of Finland by 2 times. I hope you didn’t forget about the dreams of Great Suomi?
The political wisdom of this consistent hostility woke up after we hacked their defensive system to the full depth within a week, losing much less than the Finns and the country led by this fascist henchman was doomed .. tada yeah ... wise Karl fussed and stopped make friends with bad Hitler ....
I hope you also remember that only in the newly created Suomi after the defeat of the Red Finns inflicted by German troops more people were killed than died on both sides during the fighting ... concentration camps were created ... Nazism was unusually popular, it was created shyutskor - translation-security units ... does not resemble anything?
So, praise the good Stalin, who destroyed the Finnish army a second time, this time with little blood, but did not occupy Finland by forgiving its aggressive plans - the main thing for us was to ensure our security, as in the year 39.
And they were good soldiers, for twenty years they, with the help of the leading countries of Europe, have been actively preparing for an aggressive coalition war against us ... have prepared.

Stalin was the number one enemy for all countries that did not accept communism. Ina these were the reasons. Accusing the Finns of cruelty while stripping from the reds is a little ridiculous, at least for us who have left the USSR. After all, what the Reds did - in general, has few analogues, and today this behavior is considered savagery, everyone praises the achievement of the Reds and they also condemn them for gullags, collective farms, executions, persecution of churches, etc. Plus, the USSR attacked Finland itself, it provoked a conflict and as for me, the Finns responded with dignity, patting up a powerful army so that newspaper advice and losses were not taken to describe.

[Alexander Raevsky]

P .... lei got it right, so don’t blather! Vata smelly!