Weapons of the world where black powder was never invented

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Weapons of the world where black powder was never invented
The Reaper 410 is the most powerful crossbow from Taiwanese brand Ek Archery in 2018. Something like this could easily exist in a world without black powder!


“Imagination is a quality of the greatest value… Even in mathematics it is needed, even the discovery of differential and integral calculus would have been impossible without imagination.”
V. I. Lenin. Concluding Remarks on the Political Report of the Central Committee of the RCP(b), March 28, 1922. Complete Works, fifth edition, vol. 45, p. 125

Alternative story and technology. Could a civilization exist, say, on an alternate Earth-2, where, for some reason, black powder is never discovered? Is that simply impossible? In principle, it seems so, but there are a number of conditions under which, given the same variables that exist in our world, black powder might not appear. Which means it won't appear either. weapon, which operates on the basis of its use, and its place will be taken by something else.



Let's assume—we're just fantasizing, so we can accept much that doesn't or never actually exist—that the civilization we're talking about had, from ancient times, a pronounced dualistic religion, that is, a religion based on the worship of two gods, one good and one evil. We had something similar in Zoroastrianism, but it didn't have any particular strictness in everyday matters. And here, not only was the religion, and a very strict one at that, dualistic, but the number system was also binary, and even more so—chemistry was binary, in which mixing three substances was forbidden.

In fact, the number "three" was a cursed number in this society. The third child in a family was considered unlucky, the third day of the month—the day of all misfortunes, as was every third year. Natural potassium nitrate was known there, but it was considered the "devil's salt," and it could only be mixed with sugar. Adding a third component to the mixture was forbidden under penalty of severe punishment, as any triple mixture in this religion was considered heresy, with all the ensuing consequences for the heretic.

But since this civilization never discovered black powder, then... what types of projectile weapons did it use? Well, initially, just like ours, it was bows, crossbows, and slings. But this dualistic civilization entered its 19th century, a technological revolution began, and metalworking by forging and cutting reached new heights. And then the old bows and crossbows were no longer sufficient.

This meant that more compact and easier-to-use projectile weapons began to be used to engage enemies at a distance. For example, a carbine, very similar to the M1, but with a magazine in the forend under the barrel. It holds ten 9mm pellets. The fins open after firing. Moreover, the barrel is rifled, and the bullet moves along the rifling thanks to two rubber sleeves. A compressed air tank is located in the buttstock. Two pump levers—one to the left and one to the right of the barrel—are folded back toward the breech by the handles, and then returned forward after loading. And that's it—you can aim and fire!

The exact same carbine can be spring-loaded. The magazine is located in the front, changed from the muzzle, and is housed inside the fore-end. It also has an inclined grip for holding. However, at the rear of the grip is a flat steel spring, which is also retracted by two handles on the right and left. When the trigger is released, it strikes the tail of the bullet, which flies out of the... smoothbore barrel. But the spring itself is small. rocket.

As mentioned above, in this society, mixing three components is a grave and unforgivable sin, but two—as many as you like! This arrow—a tube with a pointed tip—is pressed with a mixture of 60% potassium nitrate ("devil's salt") and granulated sugar. The initiator/igniter is a cap filled with silver fulminate (AgCNO) or silver acetylide (Ag2C2), substances that ignite on impact. Moreover, both are completely "sinless," as the number "three" is absent from their formulas!

It's entirely possible that the military inventors of this civilization could also devise a powder-free grenade launcher, even one with a very simple design. Imagine a fairly flexible wooden, plastic, or metal "ski" about the height of a man, with two handles at the top and a hemispherical "cup" for a spherical grenade weighing 500-600 grams, very similar to the French defensive grenade of 1914. This "ball" could be reminiscent of either mercury fulminate (Hg(CNO)2) or silver fulminate, although this option is more expensive.

The grenade launcher places the grenade into the cup, ensuring the T-shaped igniter fits into the slot. Then, bracing his foot against the center of the "ski," he bends it like a bow, grasping the two handles. He bends... and then, taking aim, releases them simultaneously. The "ski" straightens and launches the grenade at the target, and the T-shaped igniter, having fired, remains in the slot of the "cup."

Of course, only experience will determine how effective a grenade can be in this manner, but it's undeniable that such a device can be quite effective. And, of course, in this alternative world, a grenade launcher modeled on the British PIAT anti-tank grenade launcher would be highly prized. It could be very simple. Inside the tube is a spring, which is cocked by handles through slots cut into it. At the front is a tray on which a tadpole-shaped grenade with a potassium-sugar motor in the tail is placed. The depressurized spring, when struck by the striker, pierces the igniter cap and simultaneously propels the grenade toward the target, where it is then carried by a rocket motor.

By the time the world's armies begin to use grenade launchers like these, it's entirely possible that its military chemists will have already discovered two-component explosives, which they can use to make high-quality smokeless powder.

In particular, these will be dinitrates—explosives whose key feature is the presence of two nitro groups (-NO₂), which gives them a high detonation potential. And—which is also important for the binary religion of this world—their formula does not contain the forbidden number "three." Combat agents such as urotropine dinitrate (hexamethylene dinitramine) could very well be synthesized and used, even though it has relatively weak explosive and brisant properties compared to TNT.

There's also an explosive called diethanolnitramine dinitrate—colorless crystals insoluble in water but soluble in benzene, acetone, and alcohols, which allows them to be used in the production of nitropropellants. Moreover, this powerful explosive is used in our world as a component of ballistic propellants and composite rocket fuels.

Finally, there's another dinitrate, ethylene glycol dinitrate (nitroglycol), an oily liquid and a powerful, high-explosive agent. Its explosive properties are similar to nitroglycerin, but it has a lower freezing point, meaning ammunition filled with it is easier to store safely, and requires less cold.

That is, the development of small arms and projectile weapons will ultimately shift toward gunpowder-powered weapons, but with a completely different chemical composition. Grad-type launchers and Iskander missiles will sooner or later appear in this world, as will artillery weapons that will replace gravity throwers such as the frondibol (or trebuchet).

However, the inertia of consciousness will also operate in this world, and it's quite possible that pistol-shooters will survive there, both for civilians and local police. Externally, such a pistol could very well look like one of the first Browning pistols, which had a gas-operated reloading lever mounted on top of the barrel. This pistol will have the same design. The grip is like that of a Parabellum, but the magazine for the projectiles will again be in front of the trigger guard.

You cock the striker spring with the handle and release it, allowing it to return to its original position. A bullet, the dart, enters the barrel, where it is struck with force by a flat steel spring. The bullet's charge ignites, and it accelerates toward the target, spinning as it does so due to the gases escaping from holes drilled at an angle in its base. But you don't have to make it reactive. At a range of 10-15 meters, the impact of a 9mm bullet will be quite noticeable!

Of course, all this is… fantasy. But it's also perfectly suitable for authors of science fiction stories about travelers to all sorts of magical and technological worlds and… who knows what else. A fairy tale, as they say, is a lie, but there's a hint in it…
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  1. +5
    29 August 2026 04: 00
    a more compact and easy-to-use arrow-throwing weapon.
    They forgot about the slingshot...
    1. +5
      29 August 2026 04: 26
      Welcome hi The atlatl hasn't been mentioned yet.
  2. +3
    29 August 2026 04: 03
    Oh, these fantasies. One woman fantasized about Carlson with his propeller pants, and look at this: half a century later, those fantasies and the fan pants have turned into kamikaze drones and UAVs. A whole new branch of the military has emerged. winked
  3. +3
    29 August 2026 04: 36
    The good thing about this world is that he would definitely have invented alcohol, because the number "3" is missing from the formula for ethyl alcohol!
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, you made me laugh!
  4. +2
    29 August 2026 05: 34
    The third child is unlucky? Then this civilization will never invent anything because it will simply die out.
    1. +4
      29 August 2026 05: 41
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      Then this civilization will not invent anything, because it will simply die out.

      But at least it's a lucky 4th, twice over!!! So not only will it not die out, it will thrive!
  5. +1
    29 August 2026 07: 18
    The sling and bow were not much inferior to the arquebus and even surpassed it in rate of fire. But there was one problem: warriors required extensive training, and warfare could not be waged on an industrial scale. While arquebus use could be learned in a matter of weeks, archery was not. These losses became easier to replace with the introduction of gunpowder into warfare. Gunpowder itself had been invented in ancient China, but it only found true military application in the Middle Ages. The problem wasn't gunpowder itself, but the approach to the very nature of warfare and its methods.
  6. +1
    29 August 2026 07: 35
    As I understand it, it's not about the number three, but about this
    A pressed compound of 60% potassium nitrate ("devil's salt") and granulated sugar is used. The initiator/igniter is a cap filled with silver fulminate (AgCNO) or silver acetylide (Ag2C2), substances that ignite on impact.
  7. 0
    29 August 2026 09: 14
    The main revolution in weapons was the use of "borrowed power." The bow is "direct power," the crossbow, and the airgun are "borrowed," but these are "short-term loans." With the use of gunpowder, borrowing really took off.
    1. 0
      29 August 2026 20: 14
      Making gunpowder requires a ton of labor from various craftsmen, digging in pits of rotten shit drenched in urine. To get someone to happily fire a squeak, someone had to spend years boiling something that's not discussed at the table. But a fighter can craft an arrow himself in the nearest forest.
  8. 0
    29 August 2026 14: 03
    Fulminate, judging by its chemical formula, consists of three substances.
  9. 0
    29 August 2026 15: 39
    It would be interesting to see if hydraulics could be used to create effective crossbows and other projectile weapons.
    1. +1
      30 August 2026 07: 33
      It would be interesting to see if hydraulics could be used to create effective crossbows and other projectile weapons.

      Essentially, what is needed is an energy accumulator capable of releasing it very quickly and a device for transmitting/converting this energy into a target.
      Sling, spinning belt - accumulation of kinetic energy of the stone, flight and impact that destroys the obstacle.
      Explosives are energy accumulators based on chemical bonds. Compressed gas and elastic (bending/torsional) elements accumulate potential energy by changing the distance between atoms. Rubber changes the shape of molecules.
      The compressibility of liquids and solids is extremely low, so despite the significant applied force, the reserve of potential energy is negligible.
      Although for liquids it is possible to construct something monstrous based on hydraulic shock, when energy accumulates in a moving mass of water, here too a water cannon is used to pacify crowds.
      1. 0
        30 August 2026 07: 37
        Quote: Sensor
        Although for liquids it is possible to construct something monstrous based on hydraulic shock, when energy accumulates in a moving mass of water, here too a water cannon is used to pacify crowds.

        I recently pressed out a bearing with a press... I put a nut underneath for height... it shot out like a slingshot... however. belay
        1. +1
          30 August 2026 07: 50
          It shot like a slingshot...

          It's just that, but if the same force were used to tighten a powerful spring, the nut could also break through a wall.
          At one plant, a small 3.4-liter receiver containing air at 30 MPa exploded in a nitrogen station. Shrapnel pierced a main wall. Regarding the benefits of smoking, only one person was injured: he got a sand rash on his back, heard a hissing sound, and dove for the equipment.
  10. 0
    29 August 2026 20: 10
    Gunpowder could have been discovered much later. Technically, everything needed for it existed in nature. But for some reason, the Romans weren't smart enough to dig up the soil under an old outhouse where a company of soldiers had been doing their business for years, wash it with water, then treat the water with ash, and then evaporate it to obtain potassium nitrate. What normal person would dig under a dung heap? The Chinese were obsessed with the elixir of immortality for hundreds of years, crawling everywhere, mixing everything with everything, and suddenly found saltpeter. Then they mixed it with charcoal and set it on fire. If some epidemic or war had happened in China, gunpowder would have been discovered in the 16th century, while it would have taken another 200 years for them to learn how to cast cannons from it.
    1. +1
      29 August 2026 20: 16
      But for some reason the Romans didn't have the sense to dig up the soil under the old outhouse, where a company of soldiers had been doing their business for years, wash it with water, then treat this water with ash, and then evaporate it to obtain potassium nitrate.

      It's a whole process, and to start it, you need to know what the outcome will be. And you also need to apply the results correctly. Basically, you can't do without time travelers :(
      1. +1
        29 August 2026 20: 31
        A time traveler who's been sent back in time will say, "Well, screw it, I'm not going to dig around in this shit!" He's a time traveler, he should be building himself a harem, not stinking a mile away! He'll invent simpler electricity, harness a donkey to a generator, and use the arc method to extract saltpeter. laughing
        1. 0
          29 August 2026 22: 50
          In the book, of course, it's easy—any time traveler can easily overcome a technological gap of hundreds of years and whip up a neodymium magnet 🧲, without which you can forget about arcing. But to make one, you need modern technology and equipment. So, alas, it's just a privy...
          1. +1
            29 August 2026 23: 05
            When they first produced the electric arc, neodymium hadn't even been discovered yet! And they've known how to make copper wire for a long time now; iron needles are a hundred years old. So, if some emperor were to show off some electrical tricks with twitching frog legs, he'd definitely get funding, but after the outhouse, they'd probably not even let you into town. wassat
            1. 0
              30 August 2026 07: 36
              Well, let's show some emperor some electrical tricks with twitching frog legs - and he'll definitely arrange funding,

              Or he'll send you to the stake so as not to embarrass you with necromancy.
              But the Magdenburg hemispheres are more understandable.
              1. 0
                2 September 2026 16: 18
                Or he'll send you to the stake so as not to embarrass you with necromancy.
                So there's no need to put on a show in front of the archbishop and say, "I have magic, look what I can do!" laughing
            2. 0
              2 September 2026 12: 26
              I'm not arguing, I'm just saying that everything seems so easy in books. And all Time Travelers are, at the very least, competent engineers and inventors. To make a powerful generator powered by donkey traction, you first need to assemble a lead-acid battery or a primitive iron-copper battery. You can also mess around with zinc, but then you'll also need a grasp of geology and ores. Once our Time Traveler figures out the excitation current for the windings, then you can assemble a generator, insulating the wire with silk and wax.
              1. 0
                2 September 2026 16: 24
                To make a powerful donkey-powered generator, you first need to assemble a lead-acid battery or a primitive iron-copper battery.
                why is the battery there? Here either a battery or a generator is twisted from wire coated with resin.
                And the Time Travelers are all at least competent engineers and inventors.
                Well, that's usually what home-based DIYers come up with. And then Ivashka from the Pioneer House magnetizes Koshchei to the horseshoe so he can't do anything. laughing
                In fact, even a brilliant inventor sent back in time, even if he didn't die from smallpox, measles, diphtheria, and other diseases, would suffer severe intestinal problems from all the coarse food his ancestors ate. Everyone's teeth would wear down because the bread contained stone dust from the millstones.
                1. 0
                  4 September 2026 12: 22
                  What do you need a battery for? How are you going to create a magnetic field on the generator? Excite the rotor winding? We're talking about power, not the fumes you'd get from weak ferrite magnets at high RPMs under full traction.
                  1. 0
                    4 September 2026 15: 26
                    This will be far more powerful than pouring liquid human waste onto fermented solid waste for years. Why the power? Who are they trying to compete with, 21st-century China? laughing
  11. 0
    1 September 2026 15: 40
    You've probably seen in action movies and thrillers how heroes effectively deal with villains with the help of nail gun..

    So, there is gas nail gun It's an extremely powerful tool that operates on a fairly simple principle. The battery creates a small discharge, which causes a micro-explosion of the gas-air mixture. This, in turn, sets the piston in motion, which in turn activates a mechanism that ejects the nail.

    A powerful "weapon", I saw it in the movies))