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In Russia, a fundamentally new protection for light armored vehicles has been created

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At the recent show in Bronnitsy, the newest vehicles for the Russian army were shown options for a radical increase in light armor protection.


In Russia, a fundamentally new protection for light armored vehicles has been created

In particular, the BTR-82A and MT-LB were shown, the protection of which was enhanced by armored ceramics. Thanks to its installation on these combat vehicles, now Russian armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and BMD can withstand the entry of small-arms bullets. weapons caliber to 14,5 mm. As a result, Russian armored vehicles meet the most modern requirements in terms of protection.

It was reported that in the process of creating are ceramic armor materials, which will also have the capabilities of "stealth".

These developments will certainly be used on promising weapons, such as the Kurganets-25, the Boomerang, the Typhoon and the Wolf.


Several years ago, justifying purchases abroad, some officials blamed our industry for lagging behind foreign ones. Now this lag is overcome, and domestic armored ceramics will be in demand not only in Russian power structures, but also from foreign buyers of Russian weapons.
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  1. Yuras222
    Yuras222 31 May 2013 10: 44 New
    +7
    Handsome, and then "Centaur" and "Iveco", when we ourselves can do no worse.
    1. astra
      astra 31 May 2013 11: 25 New
      +8
      In particular, BTR-82A and MT-LB were shown, the protection of which was enhanced by armored ceramics. Thanks to its installation on these combat vehicles, now Russian armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles can withstand the impact of small-caliber bullets of caliber up to 14,5 mm. As a result, Russian armored vehicles in terms of protection meet the latest requirements.

      The news should please the paratroopers, as
      ceramics are lighter, and it is preferable to install them on an airborne landing machine, since you need to take into account: aircraft carrying capacity, with buoyancy. Although I think after hitting ammunition I will have to change the armor panels more often, or to close up with a special composition of the hit, which is a little more stressful in war conditions. But still, this is better than nothing, considering that a regular armored personnel carrier without protection is flashed with bullets from SVD, and here they can withstand hit of small arms of caliber up to 14,5 mm! The beauty.
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 31 May 2013 11: 35 New
      20
      I liked the video, just on a car theme)
      1. Kirgudum
        Kirgudum 31 May 2013 11: 36 New
        +2
        Yes, it is POWER!
      2. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 31 May 2013 12: 26 New
        +9
        That nifiga is not offensive for domestic products ... iPhones nervously smoke on the sidelines ...
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 31 May 2013 13: 58 New
          -10
          Quote: Mijgan
          That nifiga is not offensive for domestic products ... iPhones nervously smoke on the sidelines ...

          They (iPhones) have already had this for a long time, we just don’t know this.
      3. soaring
        soaring 31 May 2013 13: 39 New
        +1
        This is super !!! Impressive !!! good
      4. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 31 May 2013 14: 03 New
        +2
        It is urgent to refuse Iveko! They will only cause harm.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 11 New
          0
          And what will harm the cars, the analogues of which are still not in the Russian army? By saving the lives of several soldiers in the Caucasus?
          A car is used in 10 countries in far from sugar conditions in Afghanistan. Options literally swept away everything on it. The most massive car of this class in the European armies.
      5. malkor
        malkor 31 May 2013 21: 29 New
        0
        COOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      6. Wolf
        Wolf 1 June 2013 01: 31 New
        11
        Brother Сербa Serb, and I’ll try to tell you about our experience of NATO and Ruski combat vehicles. From the beginning, Serbian national intelligence: In the hands of Mandusic Wolf, each gun (barrel) will be killed (morteљan). Mandusic Wolf is a brave man from the time of the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans. Rusko weapons for fighting are much better than NATO. 1999 When NATO fascists bombed us nothing they couldn’t army, the losses of the army beat minimal. They are at the end, they started killing civilians, the population, and so in fact they finished us off. They tried sa with special snags like SAS (England) from Albania, but they drove like flies, so they never tried to plague them with snags, they just knew what would happen. We had weapons from the 70s and 18 MiGs that overwhelmed the sample from the 29s, they beat them technically unequally (radars and systems), and the most beaten ones like Tagahavk, Istrebititeh, Avaksov, etc. The number hit 1 in 100. You should only be proud of the military equipment for the sample, it’s just that it needs to be beaten in waxes and technically in unbroken sastaganiu (serviceable). Normally eats what the engines, the cooling system, gearboxes, and the little things work differently. This lehko is solved, approximately how China is doing a license for the engine and redirector from Јapontsev or Nemtsov and they will start production only from Russia, and not buy from abroad. I’ll tell you an episode from the Great Patriotic War and the Italian howitzer (katori did not tell me sketches). The Italian howitzer is very precise, they could get into the bucket, or only in the summer, in the winter, in the cold, our children could calmly walk when they did not work. It means that the nada beati’s weapons are only worthy, because they aren’t much behind NATO, if it’s very good, then they’re the main difference between us and NATO eating the geniuses of military leaders and the heart in soldiers, but this is genetics, UTB they can’t buy my dengue. And we can easily always defeat them. They know well, and therefore did one of the Prussians Nemce, and the floor of Sloven was made by Catholics, that the bi would divide us and then add 1 to 1. During the Second World War, the terrible battles of the Germans themselves beat the Prussians, and always Prussians distinguished them as soldiers. But Slovenia also eats a lot of poorer than Prussians, it was Luzhichki who beat Serbia and Serbia in the Balkans. According to this reptile, they committed genocide over the Luzhichsky Serbs and right now they are doing the Serbs here in the Balkans with the hands of the Serbs Muslim and Serbs Catholics! So BV knew their very scary weapon eating a section of Slovenes and then sending one on top of the other. This is the ideal idea for Ukraine where they will simply tear the people in half. In fact, it is 1 people, sa Belorussim, Russima, Serbs, Prussim, Swedes, Poљaki, Czechs Slovaks, Russinima, today's Rumuns (they beat the Vlachi-Serbian tribes, and wrote Cyrillic until the 19th century and spoke our hezik). against the Russians, etc. The chronicle of Slovenes is full of falsification. Do not believe books. As regards technology, it has been created by NATO according to a different philosophy, is it beautifully designed, combat-ready in a low-cost environment, and without any technical assistance under a question, many examples? If you want a beautiful weapon empty Italy can do the design according to your design, they know how, their genetics. Most importantly, bi-weapons weapons were launched in Russia, and not imported from abroad.
      7. Consul-t
        Consul-t 1 June 2013 09: 36 New
        0
        That only we will not think up what roads would not do ...
        In general, it is impressive.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 09 New
      +4
      Wait with Iveco. There are no mass-produced cars that are capable of holding such an explosion as they are, Russian ones. They are only being prepared for testing.
      1. golikov
        golikov 31 May 2013 22: 20 New
        +2
        I remember a year ago, on this site, Iveco and Tiger were compared. Then there was another Minister of Defense, and the fate of the "Tigers" was vague. There were many photos and comments to them. You, as an ardent admirer of "Iveka", promised to show you photos of this excellent car (with separate booking) after the explosion at the test site, I never saw them. And such photos can shake the faith of many Topwar.ru readers, if "Iveka" is more intact than "Tiger".
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 1 June 2013 02: 18 New
          0
          I don’t remember something, so I promised you something. But first, find the Tiger after undermining the 6KG TNT under the wheel, buzzing?
          1. golikov
            golikov 2 June 2013 18: 04 New
            0
            Yes, they did not promise me. It seemed.
            "Bumpy (1) RU September 16, 2012 01:56 ↑

            Here the question is not whether it is a mine or not, but in the quantity of explosives. There will be 10-20kg and under the wheel - the chances of survival will drop sharply. Although it’s harder to put.

            You can find more than one such photos. There are also many dead soldiers. But often the car saved me - I threw a few of the cases here somewhere. "


            But in the comments to the article "Lynx vs Tiger", you write so confidently that the explosion was ...
    4. ildar335
      ildar335 1 June 2013 08: 40 New
      0
      the centaur and iveko were simply bought "for a sample and comparison" of some nodes.
      and so completely agree, keep it up !!!!
  2. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 31 May 2013 10: 46 New
    +6
    Kamaz and Ural are our pride !!! keep it up guys. Our mothers are only grateful to you for the saved sons.
  3. Tarpon
    Tarpon 31 May 2013 10: 55 New
    +2
    options for a radical strengthening of the armor protection of light armored vehicles were demonstrated for the Russian army.

    Wonderful! Now urgently re-equip the army!
    1. Armata
      Armata 31 May 2013 11: 06 New
      12
      Quote: Tarpon
      Wonderful! Now urgently re-equip the army!
      Give me money at least tomorrow, we will begin to re-equip with all the coolest that is developed. wink Only They boast, but the projects are frozen. when will they start supplying? request
      1. Tarpon
        Tarpon 31 May 2013 11: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Mechanic
        Quote: Tarpon
        Wonderful! Now urgently re-equip the army!
        Give me money at least tomorrow, we will begin to re-equip with all the coolest that is developed. wink Only They boast, but the projects are frozen. when will they start supplying? request

        I really hope that they will find funds. Not all can be spent on Mistral and Iveco.
        1. Armata
          Armata 31 May 2013 12: 03 New
          10
          Quote: Tarpon
          I really hope that they will find funds. Not all can be spent on Mistral and Iveco.
          I’ll tell you an interesting story, I spread it about a year ago. Academician and Doctor of Science URORAN. In 2003, a metal-ceramic paste was developed. If applied to the T72 case with a layer of only 5 mm, the level of thermal radiation can be reduced by 70%. So what? The invention was recognized as fundamentally unsuitable and not having real application in the RF Ministry of Defense. But now they are happy to buy it in Germany and several other countries in order to process the engine compartments of their military equipment. Is Russia a generous soul?
          1. soaring
            soaring 31 May 2013 14: 12 New
            +6
            To go nuts! Those who disown such an invention should not be imprisoned, but mustard enema should be done within a few days !!!! And then find out what their opinion is and how it has changed polarity, regarding such inventions !!!
            1. brelok
              brelok 31 May 2013 20: 48 New
              +2
              Quote: soaring
              To go nuts! Those who disown such an invention should not be imprisoned, but mustard enema should be done within a few days !!!!

              For the first time, what? Our bureaucrats have not changed over the centuries. Even 34-ka almost wrapped up in due time!
          2. Tarpon
            Tarpon 31 May 2013 17: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Mechanic
            I’ll tell you an interesting story, I spread it about a year ago. Academician and Doctor of Science URORAN. In 2003, a metal-ceramic paste was developed. If applied to the T72 case with a layer of only 5 mm, the level of thermal radiation can be reduced by 70%. So what? The invention was recognized as fundamentally unsuitable and not having real application in the RF Ministry of Defense. But now they are happy to buy it in Germany and several other countries in order to process the engine compartments of their military equipment. Is Russia a generous soul?

            Alas, I know this. sad
            6 years ago, he was engaged in one venture project - the creation of composite material with unique properties (the name was specially blurred). It was a dual-use product. For a long time we ran through the high offices, proving the obvious. But the representatives of foreign intelligence were very interested, our samples were stolen at exhibitions, there were direct contacts, the Chinese were especially zealous, somehow even insolently in the presence of an FSB officer they made an offer to move to China on the condition of 100% financing of the project plus .... Finally, one Moscow institute, headed by a venerable academician, became interested in our product; they just desperately needed such material to implement their project. Even the GDP itself put a visa on our joint project, but ...
            1. Armata
              Armata 31 May 2013 17: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: Tarpon
              Even the GDP itself put a visa on our joint project, but ...
              Such is the mudflow. We survive as best we can. Not a question for you. Read the fools and think about what people write from the topic, and then we'll talk about Hurray.
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 13 New
            +3
            A travel companion once told me on a train how he was promoting his system through the Russian wilds of acceptance. Spat. The Germans bought in the end, at auction, for a tidy sum. And for an even tidier amount, this box is now acquired by the RF Ministry of Defense.
          4. aksakal
            aksakal 31 May 2013 22: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Mechanic
            Is Russia a generous soul?

            - to impose dynamite on the tank? !!!!! am Yes, and on top !!!!! am Yes, you are crazy !!! This is about active armor, those generals responded, while the Jews against the Syrian latest (at that time) T-72 did not use it.
            Now they’re not screaming, but politely
            Quote: Mechanic
            The invention was recognized as fundamentally unsuitable and not having real application in the RF Ministry of Defense.

            already better, already a step forward. And now the generals should be kicked out to retire, because in the technical part of the Defense Ministry, as the customer and the end consumer, it is not "these" - "Moscow - huge distances" that should serve, but engineers and candidates of technical sciences. The rest from the technical part - out, and the more stars, the farther we send, because the largest stars are the biggest pests, and they bear no responsibility! I respect Ustinov, but when he caused damage to the USSR by writing off a bunch of guns, but he came to his senses in time, and then ran into Velikiy (in comparison with Ustinov) Shipunov, like, "and who gave the order to destroy the guns?" with a petty sly in his eyes, like, well, tell me that it was my order (and it was the order of Ustinov - he then knocked this erroneous order out of the heads of his subordinates so that they would forget!) am - and rot in prison! “I think here that for larger stars, a special responsibility needs to be invented, much tougher than for a specialist officer.”
      2. танк
        танк 31 May 2013 14: 11 New
        +2
        when will they start supplying?

        never, that’s the point of politicians ’pitfall. 2 aircraft and 3 armored personnel carriers, I don’t think delivery is a laugh for such a country.
    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 May 2013 12: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Tarpon
      ! Now urgently re-equip the army!


      Wait a minute! They don’t TELL EVERYONE!
      (every piece of paper should be dusty!)
  4. fisherman
    fisherman 31 May 2013 10: 58 New
    +1
    - what a news! Hurray comrades !!! Finally!! drinks drinks drinks
    1. smershspy
      smershspy 31 May 2013 11: 20 New
      +2
      You can’t but agree! Good news! Hooray! Hooray! drinks
      1. agrindler
        agrindler 5 June 2013 17: 28 New
        +4
        Good news! When? In the near future! Hooray! drinks drinks drinks
        1. albanech
          albanech 6 June 2013 10: 29 New
          +3
          I am joining! Let him do what he intended! Hooray! drinks
          1. shura.mekishin
            shura.mekishin 13 June 2013 09: 00 New
            +2
            Better this way than otherwise! Hooray! "What joy"! drinks I don’t know I drink with joy or sorrow?
    2. Armata
      Armata 31 May 2013 12: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: fisherman
      - what a news! Hurray comrades !!! Finally!!
      What Hurray? What is it already put on our equipment? There is a question to the cry "will definitely find a use". When?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 31 May 2013 12: 22 New
        -1
        Quote: Mechanic
        What URA? What is already being put on our equipment?

        Hi Zhenya! Do not bother them, let the people rejoice, let them dream laughing
        1. Armata
          Armata 31 May 2013 12: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Zhenya! Do not bother them, let the people rejoice, let them dream
          Hi Sanya. Today I am angry, yesterday at 2 night I was only at home with UVZ. Dreaming pancake.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 16 New
            -1
            In Israel, when talking with scientists who had worked in Russia before, they talked about the difference in approaches to promotion. They were not given mad sums in Israel, not at all. But as much as possible removed all bureaucratic obstacles and helped to attract additional investments.
            Communicated with the person who was engaged in crystals. Now the plant is working according to its technologies. It produces products worth several million dollars a year.
          2. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 31 May 2013 18: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: Mechanic
            Yesterday in 2 night I was only at home with UVZ. Dreaming pancake.


            Eugene, enlighten, pliz, at least something about UVZ and Armata, is there any latest news, if possible of course.

            Thank you.
            1. Armata
              Armata 31 May 2013 18: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Aleks tv
              Eugene, enlighten, pliz, at least something about UVZ and Armata, is there any latest news, if possible of course.

              Thank you.
              Greetings Alexey. Recently wrote. The project is frozen until the release of an order for the Hindus at T90. Nothing new has happened since then. There is 1 platform, all alterations are frozen. Although a month ago everyone thought that 2 would be released with alterations, and this one would be sent for shooting. So, so far, nothing comforting.
              1. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 31 May 2013 18: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: Mechanic
                There is 1 platform, all alterations are frozen.


                Yes, I read it from you. Thanks again.
                It's a little bit sad.

                Good luck on your old or new job, Eugene. drinks
              2. Kars
                Kars 31 May 2013 22: 14 New
                +2
                Quote: Mechanic
                There is 1 platform

                Then Khlopotov released a picture ---- it seems?

                http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2013/05/blog-post_31.html
                1. svp67
                  svp67 1 June 2013 11: 15 New
                  -1
                  [quote = Kars] [quote = Mechanic] There is an 1 platform [/ quote]
                  Then Khlopotov released a picture ---- it seems?

                  And also here http://warfiles.ru/show-32044-vozmozhno-tak-vyglyadit-t-14-armata.html

                  But most likely - a fantasy, since the chassis T72 about "six-wheels" was used ...
              3. Jin
                Jin 1 June 2013 02: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: Mechanic
                Greetings Alexey. Recently wrote. The project is frozen until the release of an order for the Hindus at T90. Nothing new has happened since then. There is 1 platform, all alterations are frozen. Although a month ago everyone thought that 2 would be released with alterations, and this one would be sent for shooting. So, so far, nothing comforting.


                Hi, Zhen, this is * ets ... Hindus, damn it, "great" ... in short, not to see luck in the near foreseeable ... is this the same platform, along the way, which buried its nose due to imbalance? Do not judge strictly for the inaccuracy of terminology ... damn it? after everything? they were so inspired then ... okay, I'll go smoke (((really, not a fig does not change with us, one tryndezh sad
  5. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 31 May 2013 11: 01 New
    +1
    at least some joy in our gray everyday life
  6. seller trucks
    seller trucks 31 May 2013 11: 04 New
    +3
    found on the topic:
    Armored ceramics are used as a part of ceramic-composite armored panels for equipment for personnel with protection up to 6A class according to GOST P50744-95, for mounted armored panels used in combination with a substrate from a number of structural ballistic materials to protect against automatic rifle bullets of calibers 7,62 mm, 12,7 mm, 14,5 mm (AKM, AK-74 assault rifles, SVD sniper rifle, Kord machine gun, KPVT machine gun) belay

    manufacturer NEVZ-CERAMIX CJSC
    http://www.nevz-ceramics.com/ru/produktyi-i-materialyi/bronekeramika.html
    1. orff
      orff 31 May 2013 13: 58 New
      +1
      another advantage: you can’t surrender such a colormet laughing
      I remember the times when the army was plundered from lack of money: aluminum armored plates were twisted with BMP and handed over in color
  7. Jin
    Jin 31 May 2013 11: 06 New
    0
    Handsome men! NAT will now write in boiling water ... The only thing I would like is for the development to be implemented in the troops, within the shortest possible time!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 May 2013 12: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Jin
      . The only one, I would like the development to be implemented in the troops, within the shortest possible time!

      That's when there will be developments in the military, then we will say handsome.
      1. Jin
        Jin 31 May 2013 16: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        That's when there will be developments in the military, then we will say handsome.


        And I "handsome" developers, for the development! There would be no development, there would be no in the troops hi
  8. Dawn
    Dawn 31 May 2013 11: 09 New
    +9
    So send them to Syria and you will help people and the equipment will be tested in battles, and then, after improvements to the identified flaws, buy into your Army.
  9. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 31 May 2013 11: 13 New
    +7
    Several years ago, justifying purchases abroad, some officials reproached our industry for the fact that its designs lag behind foreign ones.

    We can even name the names of these officials.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 18 New
      +3
      You understand how the serial production differs from the piece exhibition. For example, Russian ceramics hold on to stands better. But at the stage of mass production, stability cannot be achieved in terms of performance.
  10. Suhov
    Suhov 31 May 2013 11: 23 New
    +8
    In Russia, fundamentally new defense for light armored vehicles - armored ceramics!

    Beethoven. Moonlight Sonata.
    Performed for the first time ...
    Me…

    wassat
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 31 May 2013 11: 40 New
      +4
      Yeah smiled too. It's good that at least they didn't say about "have no analogues in the world."
  11. Kirgudum
    Kirgudum 31 May 2013 11: 36 New
    +1
    I wonder how much it costs?
  12. erased
    erased 31 May 2013 11: 37 New
    0
    If this is true, then just great news! Armor protection is extremely important for cars of any class!
  13. Skarte
    Skarte 31 May 2013 11: 41 New
    +2
    Aaaa, where is the professor? ... How will he come, but how will he criticize everything ... Yes, he will say it "G", but in Israel it is long and steeper))) ahahaha
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 31 May 2013 16: 13 New
      0
      And the professor will start talking about the Merkava laughing
    2. il grand casino
      il grand casino 31 May 2013 18: 12 New
      +2
      Let him criticize ... the more criticism the more reason to think and do better. If everyone will sing only laudatory ... it will be scary.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 27 New
      +3
      May I say instead of him. Until now, the information was that, showing good test data, it was not possible to achieve stable performance in the mass production of Russian ceramics.
      So come on, let her pass the test. And then it is not you, but the soldiers who hide behind the slogan "has no analogues".
      Less patriotism, more patience and sober appreciation
      1. Armata
        Armata 31 May 2013 18: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        Less patriotism, more patience and sober appreciation
        rights to all 100 drinks There is only one thing, it was invented at the end of 90, but somehow now the dust was blown off and new.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 31 May 2013 19: 18 New
          0
          As far as I understand, now they are trying to hold out the series.
        2. Aleksys2
          Aleksys2 31 May 2013 19: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Mechanic
          There is only one thing, it was invented at the end of 90,

          For information:
          The USSR is one of the first countries in the world where systematic research on armor ceramics began back in the mid-70 of the last century.
          Boron carbide tiles manufactured by the Luga Abrasive Plant, which the Research Institute of Steel used in bulletproof vests of the "Uley" type - in versions 4 and 15 of series 6B5 (Zh-86) - for the 40th Army of the Limited Contingent of Soviet Forces in the Republic of Afghanistan (OKSVA) in the period 1979-1989, had high armor properties, body armor of the "Hive" series in various modifications are still in parts.
      2. il grand casino
        il grand casino 31 May 2013 19: 57 New
        +2
        You expressed my point directly! By the way, I respect Profa very much ...
      3. Jin
        Jin 1 June 2013 00: 18 New
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Until now, the information was that, showing good test data, it was not possible to achieve stable performance in the mass production of Russian ceramics.


        That is, the mess happens, as usual, "on the spot", Vanya is sleeping on the control panel?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 1 June 2013 02: 19 New
          0
          I think it's just the imperfection of the technologies that are being produced.
  14. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 31 May 2013 11: 41 New
    +5
    Russian armored ceramics will be in demand not only in Russian power structures

    The main thing is not so much to invent as to introduce into production and adopt.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 31 May 2013 18: 28 New
      0
      That's right. The series is very different from the prototypes. Serial to the desired quality can bring more than one year.
  15. Vtel
    Vtel 31 May 2013 11: 47 New
    0
    So it’s a weird thing, and only ceramics went into pans.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 May 2013 12: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      So it’s a weird thing.

      Where did it go?
  16. yanus
    yanus 31 May 2013 11: 57 New
    +3
    Speak fundamentally new? Oh well...
    Already with some inner anguish I await the release of "Kurgan" and "Armata". I feel that everything will be the same "fundamentally new" ...
  17. Svist
    Svist 31 May 2013 11: 58 New
    +1
    Our people can do a lot, the main thing is not to put sticks in the wheels. If you still support !!! smile
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 31 May 2013 12: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Svist
      the main thing they do not stick sticks in the wheels

      and caterpillars ...
      wassat
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 31 May 2013 15: 14 New
        +2
        Screw-walkers are also found. Where are they going ??
  18. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 31 May 2013 12: 06 New
    +1
    Well, there’s nothing fundamentally new, the practice of additional armor with ceramics in the world has been laid down before us. But the news is good, a whole string of good news is coming after it; if there is armor, it means that industry has mastered, if it has mastered industry, then it’s not poher *** but, if so then we can assume that this whole beauty can be mass produced)))
  19. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 31 May 2013 12: 56 New
    +3
    Interesting, but was there a lag at all, or were effective managers so sorry?
  20. ramsi
    ramsi 31 May 2013 13: 07 New
    0
    I didn’t understand - did the armored ceramic hold one hit, after which it needs to be replaced, or is it real armor?
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 2 June 2013 12: 55 New
      0
      At the local point - only one, the material is painfully brittle, cracking at the point of impact. It is supposed to replace the panels after combat hits, which means that it is necessary to establish in-line production - and that would reduce the price, and that would ensure the availability of mass replacement. The advantage of armored ceramics is the small mass due to the relatively thin plate, you’ll overlay the whole car, make it a couple of tons heavier, and it will become impenetrable for a bunch of hits-)))). Then change, change simply, the fasteners should be well thought out there, screw connections - long and dreary
  21. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 31 May 2013 13: 24 New
    +1
    Everything is true only the production of such armor will cost money and considerable, if the MO is squeezed, there will be no new equipment, with new armor.
  22. rennim
    rennim 31 May 2013 13: 53 New
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    Honestly, having read the headline, I thought that they had come up with a defense against something more serious. Maybe soon and things will come up for him. Oh, how necessary it is now.
  23. Samminosh
    Samminosh 31 May 2013 14: 17 New
    +1
    According to unconfirmed rumors, the armor was created on the basis of captured American "Hummers".
    And the screams about "return, this is ours" were nifiga not because of the radio equipment, but just because of the protection materials.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 1 June 2013 06: 35 New
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      According to confirmed data, amers licked armor in the USSR again.
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 2 June 2013 12: 56 New
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      Armored ceramics were developed in the deep USSR, the Hammers have their own theme there, ours have their own
  24. rapid1934
    rapid1934 31 May 2013 14: 30 New
    +1
    We have many unique and very necessary models of equipment and weapons. But they are in single copies.
    That's when the troops will be equipped then there will be joy! hi
  25. hramckov2012
    hramckov2012 31 May 2013 14: 35 New
    +1
    "A fundamentally new protection for light armored vehicles has been created in Russia" the question is, what is ceramics PRINCIPALLY new?
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 31 May 2013 15: 06 New
      +1
      The fact that we have before it really has not been used.
      1. Armata
        Armata 31 May 2013 17: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Samminosh
        The fact that we have before it really has not been used.
        and now in use? or what is adopted?
      2. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 31 May 2013 19: 25 New
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        Quote: Samminosh
        The fact that we have before it really has not been used.

        Used and used since 1985 year.
  26. bddrus
    bddrus 31 May 2013 14: 40 New
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    tired of shows and statements - let's deliver to the troops already!
  27. pensioner
    pensioner 31 May 2013 15: 18 New
    +2
    The good news about this news is that Materials Science developing. This is what we must develop with all our might. Here it is possible (on breakthroughs) not only to quickly catch up with the lag in many industries, but also decently to gallop ahead ... As the youth-IMHO says.
  28. vilenich
    vilenich 31 May 2013 16: 01 New
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    The news is certainly good, but now the situation is developing, very similar to the situation in 1931, when JV Stalin warned in a warning:
    (February 4, 1931) "We are 50-100 years behind the advanced countries. We have to cover this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or we will be crushed."

    So now, the bourgeois transformations in the country have led to a lag in development and now we need to gather all our forces again to raise the country's economy and power at a new level!
  29. ed65b
    ed65b 31 May 2013 16: 18 New
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    For landing it is. Guys are the first to be thrown into the embrasures. How many died due to low armor protection. now everything will be different. God grant. The main thing is to show, demonstration models, everything is run-in. Will apply I have no doubt about it. And the old equipment is upgraded. While the new reaches the parts. the main thing is that industry does not disappoint. There is a lot of work to be done.
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  31. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 31 May 2013 17: 35 New
    +1
    <<< Several years ago, justifying purchases abroad, some officials reproached our industry for the fact that its developments lagged behind foreign ones. Now this lag has been overcome, and domestic armored ceramics will be in demand not only in Russian law enforcement agencies, but also among foreign buyers of Russian weapons. >>>
    How is it? We have not yet had time to ventilate the office after Taburetkin, and already our defense industry has overcome the "lag"! All this has already happened !!! It's just that our military business managers Taburetkin did not want to see it at close range! They needed financial flows, not domestic armored ceramics, which in terms of rebound (rollback) is clearly inferior to foreign ones!
  32. Alexander D.
    Alexander D. 31 May 2013 21: 37 New
    +1
    Tell us about the principle and novelty of ceramic armor developed in the Russian Federation in relation to the same ceramic armor massively used in NATO and the USA for over a dozen years.
    1. golikov
      golikov 31 May 2013 22: 10 New
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      There is no fundamental difference. Novelty - we just started to put it. Unfortunately this news is for channel 1, show that everything is fine.
      I think everyone here understands how much time and money was wasted, that this armor could have appeared at the beginning of 2000, but at that time everyone was "enriched" as best they could.
  33. crambol
    crambol 31 May 2013 22: 59 New
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    Now this lag is over

    What do not say, and the purchase of foreign junk spurs our developers! This is good!

  34. sergo1979
    sergo1979 31 May 2013 23: 08 New
    +1
    How did I get the phrase "fundamentally new" - this is what they say about ceramics, if an article begins with such words, the question arises - it was not written by a child by accident?