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FSB reported on disclosing a network of saboteurs among illegal immigrants

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At the parliamentary hearings in the Federation Council, Alexander Roshchupkin, head of the FSB counterintelligence analysis analysis department, said that due to armed clashes in Syria, Russia is awaiting an influx of experienced militants through illegal migration channels.


According to him, the FSB reliably established “certain forces” within the stream of illegal immigrants. Analysis of the materials has already allowed to formulate several groups of threats. In addition to militants from Syria and other theaters of clashes of the “Arab Spring”, the intelligence services of an unnamed number of foreign states are also undermined by the state system of Russia, using the same channels to carry out intelligence and sabotage activities, as well as “destructive forces and foreign non-governmental organizations that actively use migration topics to the detriment of the interests of Russia. ”

It should be noted that the statement of Alexander Roshchupkin is not intended only to mark the beginning of some kind of activity. He reported on the intermediate result already achieved. During the measures taken by the FSB, personnel officers of foreign special services were identified and convicted, who settled in Russia under the guise of migrants and carried out subversive activities on its territory, including in the North Caucasus. At the moment, the administration headed by Roshchupkin is developing further ways to prevent the phenomenon of illegal migration itself and to eliminate the threats arising from it. Judging by the situation, in parallel with this work, active measures will be continued, which have already led to the detention of a number of saboteurs and have proven themselves.

Yevgeny Chernousov, retired police colonel, lawyer at the Moscow Bar Association, Ph.D. in Law, explained “However”:

- I agree with the deputy head of the FSB. He is right that the number of migrants has gone too far. It would be half the trouble, but in operational terms, they are practically not covered. That is, only a small part is covered. Since all these migrants and their diasporas do not allow anyone into their circle, there is always, as in this case, a problem. If somewhere, someone among them is planning something, there is no operational information about it, because there are no people.

You do not have to be a security specialist or a big leader to understand that the cup is overflowing. We do not manage the migration process. Not in terms of violations of immigration laws, but in what crimes are planned. And thus nothing remains but to restore order by reducing the number of illegal immigrants.
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 31 May 2013 10: 22 New
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    - I agree with the deputy head of the FSB. He is right that the number of migrants has gone wild for us.

    Do not ask anyone, everyone agrees.
    How much more to crush this water in a mortar?
    Where are specific measures to prevent and expel asked? am
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 31 May 2013 10: 44 New
      +2
      About 1000 migrants were detained on TV yesterday in Moscow.
    2. seller trucks
      seller trucks 31 May 2013 10: 52 New
      -1
      Quote: GreatRussia
      How much more to crush this water in a mortar?


      I think that no “Arab springs” had anything to do with it, everything is much more prosaic, in Russia, finally, a large-scale struggle against illegal migration has begun, on all fronts, and to shut up the mouth of the “world community”, to introduce tight control over the flow of migrants, under the auspices of the fight against "world terrorism".
      1. Vasya Ivanov
        Vasya Ivanov 31 May 2013 15: 35 New
        +2
        I don’t know, maybe somewhere they are struggling with migrants, but every day I go near the FMS a feeling that there are more of them every day. At city events you feel like an oriental bazaar. When you see a bearded man of eastern appearance with a big bag, you become scared for your family and children because yesterday they detained a member of the Islamic radical group with grenades and weapons. It seems that everyone understands everything and the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the government, but not any progress. Indigenous people suggest creating detachments to fight the Islamists. Do we really need direct clashes like in Kandopoga, so that the migration policy would turn to face, not an asshole, to the indigenous population.
  2. creak
    creak 31 May 2013 10: 23 New
    +7
    What's next? Separate detentions are reminiscent of an attempt to carry water with a sieve - the border is open, and entry through foreign passports will not change anything. They will be bought by all and sundry as they are now buying internal.
    1. avt
      avt 31 May 2013 10: 31 New
      +7
      Quote: ranger
      What's next?

      Deal with the so-called diasporas and their leaders thoroughly, all the crime gathers around them and then the “Surgut autonomies of Tajikistan” appear "Well, they bump up their bureaucrats with sandpaper two or even three times more often.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 31 May 2013 10: 37 New
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        Quote: avt

        Deal with the so-called diasporas and their leaders

        Yeah. Deport them to hell with a dog and forbid entry. It’s also good to check who, how and why has received citizenship or registration here.
        Those who also helped to “deport”, preferably to places not so remote, to boost the economy of the Siberian region.
        1. Vasya Ivanov
          Vasya Ivanov 31 May 2013 15: 53 New
          +1
          Those who also helped to “deport”, preferably to places not so remote, to boost the economy of the Siberian region.
          I do not agree, we already have enough shit in Siberia.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 31 May 2013 11: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: avt
        Quote: ranger
        What's next?

        Deal with the so-called diasporas and their leaders thoroughly, all the crime gathers around them and then the “Surgut autonomies of Tajikistan” appear "Well, they bump up their bureaucrats with sandpaper two or even three times more often.

        Yes, how to figure it out ??? These chapters of the diasporas have no influence on their fellow countrymen in the majority, mostly these are very rich people who earned their fortunes, like the rest, by not quite honest, but by a gangster way and are closely connected with the state of its bodies .The FSO openly protects some in general, so the heads of the diasporas are not a threat to them, so to speak, their partners, but those illegal immigrants who are clandestine, yes they are, but it’s very difficult to get there and infiltrate, I need representatives of these backgammon. in one of the power units, so when they broke into the apartment of one Azerbaijani drug dealer, that wife in Azerbaijani quickly said where lies what she was hiding, but given his misfortune, given that many were masked, he could not identify the Azerbaijani among them, understandable everything that he said was heard and understood and the cache was quickly found))))
        It is practically unrealistic for a Russian operative to infiltrate such groups.
        1. avt
          avt 31 May 2013 12: 56 New
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          Quote: Yeraz
          Yes, how to figure it out ???

          According to law . As F. Dzerzhinsky said, “Your criminal record is not your merit but our shortcoming.”
          Quote: Yeraz
          The FSO openly protects some in general, t

          Again, bureaucrats need to be regularly scrubbed with sandpaper, just like a dad in Belarus - peretrahivat.
          Quote: Yeraz
          These chapters of the diasporas on their fellow countrymen have no influence in most

          Deep delusion. negative
          Quote: Yeraz
          It is practically unrealistic for a Russian operative to infiltrate such groups.

          A very important activity, but not the only one! Given the technical means of the present time, the possibilities are such that Sudoplatov would have envied, although even then they had managed it quite well. It is necessary to work comprehensively, but the quality of leadership depends on the staff. Unfortunately, there are more staff asses with fat backs than professionals who really love their job. P.S. A friend of mine worked for 25 years at nine, came to the security office in the early 90s. His manager is we are recruiting professionals, but we knew about his service. And in response - yes, but I'm an amateur. The manager hacked the anti-aircraft guns, and he caught up with him - he served 25 years, I love this thing. That's something like that.
  3. pinecone
    pinecone 31 May 2013 10: 24 New
    +6
    Tired of this constant, very conditional division into illegal immigrants and legal. There is no difference. In Orenburg, a Russian passport can be bought for $ 1000, and the FMS is a commercial company importing foreigners.
    1. sams
      sams 31 May 2013 13: 05 New
      +2
      Ethnic diasporas have long been organized crime groups.
      Only now, along with the Caucasian diasporas, the Central Asian diasporas, which have grown stronger in recent years, are operating.
      These structures have gained some influence in the Russian Federation and continue to develop.
      They accumulate significant funds, have their own interests and influence in some areas of the economy: housing and communal services, construction, transport, trade, public catering, public services ...
      Actively legalize, buy real estate, register their business, penetrate and gain a foothold, wherever possible.
      In the near future, the appearance of representatives of migrants in state structures and local governments is expected.
      The system is closed and highly organized. They even have their own banks, where they give out loans at a meager percentage.
    2. Vasya Ivanov
      Vasya Ivanov 31 May 2013 15: 55 New
      +1
      and the FMS is a commercial company importing foreigners.
      I also got the impression.
  4. fzr1000
    fzr1000 31 May 2013 10: 31 New
    +5
    It is necessary to check the level of knowledge of the Russian language and beat not in the passport, but in the face. By the way, the passport says the place of birth and name. If a passport has been issued in Russia over the past 5-7 years to Ravshan-Dushman, check the owner and the person who issued the passport. If the genitals begin. press the passport desk with a hot iron, everything will tell.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 31 May 2013 10: 36 New
      +2
      And if there is nothing to press on, will he not tell?
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 May 2013 10: 33 New
    +5
    To clean up, as in Moscow before the Olympics. Only the scale - throughout Russia.
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 31 May 2013 10: 40 New
    +3
    It is necessary to give birth to children, then there will be less eminrants!
    Our authorities will take the path of least resistance. It’s easier to import a working resource than to grow your own, cheaper. Capitalists x..you!
    1. itkul
      itkul 31 May 2013 12: 52 New
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      Quote: JonnyT
      It is necessary to give birth to children, then there will be less eminrants


      Where to give birth then, and so do not have time to give them extra for adoption abroad
    2. lawyer
      lawyer 31 May 2013 13: 43 New
      +1
      soldier This attitude of the local authorities about illegal immigrants got in, there is a line of them in the passport desk and we are not Russian and everyone doesn’t care, everyone knows where and they only scratch their tongues on TV. and not for 1 and the sl. 200 it’s also very difficult to raise, but they want people to have many children and all live in poverty.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 31 May 2013 16: 59 New
        +1
        Yeah, here, and deputies in every possible way want to "support" the birth rate ... (((
  7. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 31 May 2013 10: 40 New
    +1
    Carefully study the Manual on the Protection of the State Border of the USSR. Outfit, Outpost, Commandant, Squad. CAT and OKPP. MCH PV KGB of the USSR. Take guidance and be strictly guided. The USSR is over, the European Union has not begun, which means foreign passports and visas. The border will be closed. And comrades from the FSB, they will remember the forms and methods of the KGB’s struggle against illegal immigrants and agents and will smoothly, purposefully begin to uproot this scum by opening training and financing centers. Courts, like the most humane Soviet ones, will give real terms for treason, espionage, sabotage, anti-Russian propaganda and activities. The order begins where everything is based on laws and their strict implementation with observance of the constitutional human rights, and not the cries of shit-racers of all levels.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 31 May 2013 10: 43 New
    +4
    It is alarming that reports about the liquidation of the gang underground from all over the country are coming: N. Novgorod, St. Petersburg, Kazan, Moscow, Krasnodar, Volgograd, I only heard recently ... But how many did not hear? Does anyone manage this?
    This is who needs to be found and neutralized. Specific people.
    1. Armata
      Armata 31 May 2013 10: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: retired
      It is alarming that reports about the liquidation of the gang underground from all over the country are coming: N. Novgorod, St. Petersburg, Kazan, Moscow, Krasnodar, Volgograd, I only heard recently ... But how many did not hear? Does anyone manage this?
      This is who needs to be found and neutralized. Specific people.
      In Yekaterinburg, 2 weeks ago, an emigrant was detained in a toilet who had about 8 kilos of grass and more 10 kilos of artillery explosives in his apartment.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 31 May 2013 11: 02 New
        +3
        That's right. I live and do not know ...
        1. Armata
          Armata 31 May 2013 11: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: retired
          That's right. I live and do not know ...
          Well, duck, if in this nursery of evil they lived like me, and they drank beer with the district police officer, they would probably know. drinks
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 31 May 2013 11: 16 New
            +2
            You continue to question him, ask him ... You can go to vodka. It contributes well to communication ... Yesterday I went to see the head of the former (to retire). To factory. I learned a lot of new things ...
            1. Armata
              Armata 31 May 2013 17: 39 New
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              Quote: retired
              You continue to question him, ask him ... You can go to vodka.
              Yes, with pleasure, only while not working days, in the morning behind the wheel.
  9. fenix57
    fenix57 31 May 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    To clean up, as in Moscow before the Olympics. Only the scale - throughout Russia.

    So, after June 1, our law enforcement agencies will begin a “fierce” fight against tobacco smoking in public places ... winked A lack of them will deal with migrants!
  10. fisherman
    fisherman 31 May 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    Better than for the migrants themselves, one should take on the so-called “businessmen” who use illegal immigrants with might and main. The more legal their exploitation of migration will be, the less will be the benefits from it. Less benefits - less migration. Less migration - easier to work with special services, including
  11. Malleus
    Malleus 31 May 2013 11: 08 New
    -1
    Vaccinate among the indigenous population, and then remove the soil from the respective cattle burial grounds. It is possible "by chance".
  12. smershspy
    smershspy 31 May 2013 11: 09 New
    +4
    - I agree with the deputy head of the FSB. He is right that the number of migrants has gone too far. It would be half the trouble, but in operational terms, they are practically not covered. That is, only a small part is covered. Since all these migrants and their diasporas do not allow anyone into their circle, there is always, as in this case, a problem. If somewhere, someone among them is planning something, there is no operational information about it, because there are no people.

    Lord! True written! I have no doubt that the FSB will not face dirt!
    In my opinion, the expulsion of “illegal immigrants” can solve the problem, but only temporarily! Saboteurs, intelligence agencies of countries encroaching on Russia will find other options. It is necessary to strengthen the work of counterintelligence in the country and agents inside and outside the country in order to counter the real threat! I have the honor!
    1. Malleus
      Malleus 31 May 2013 11: 29 New
      -1
      It will not be superfluous to establish appropriate work with the population ...
      1. agrindler
        agrindler 5 June 2013 17: 37 New
        +3
        You can’t but agree! The idea is good! How will it work?
  13. gleb49
    gleb49 31 May 2013 11: 15 New
    +5
    Soon, bus drivers will pray on their way. My wife and I have already tried it in the fleet.
  14. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 31 May 2013 11: 15 New
    +6
    It’s time to close the borders, and we only increase quotas for the import of Gaster. Although it is already clear that there are ten illegal immigrants per quota. And no one who should answer for this, does not care about this question except in the context of “cut the dough”. A friend said: the traffic cop stopped the gazelle van, and there are boxes at the door, followed by 21 Gaster. He took a thousand for each and calmed down.
  15. USNik
    USNik 31 May 2013 11: 19 New
    -10
    Better than for the migrants themselves, one should take on the so-called "businessmen" who use illegal immigrants with might and main.

    Sorry, but who will sweep the streets and paint houses, for a meager fee? Emigrants do not need to be driven away, cheap (but not free) labor is good, and people who are willing to honestly plow for 5-7 years for citizenship are also good, but come here who do not know how and who want to do it, this is not a problem for businessmen "and the emigration service and pents.
    1. Malleus
      Malleus 31 May 2013 11: 35 New
      +8
      More than 800 (!!!) people spoke about this in a recent program on TV, where a Moscow official pointed to the line from MOSCOW for work as janitors. He says that they can’t take them, because job vacancies
      Yes, and (officially) their salaries are not so miserable. The dog rummaged around where - the janitor of the arms received no more than 10 thousand, and the rest (20 and more) went to the boss. So much for the employment of emigrants and the financing of diasporas (and maybe terrorism?) In one bottle.
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  16. konvalval
    konvalval 31 May 2013 11: 25 New
    +3
    Catch all illegal immigrants and take them to their embassies for further deportation at their expense.
  17. Jin
    Jin 31 May 2013 11: 46 New
    +5
    Choked, damn it! So where was the head when they simplified entry for guest workers ??? Now let’s reduce their number, yeah, everything is shorter ... It's high time to sound the alarm, it seems that they don’t live with us, but we’re having them, it's easy to go nuts sad
  18. sichevik
    sichevik 31 May 2013 11: 53 New
    +5
    Finally, they began to pay attention to illegal immigrants. In general, all this labor migration is a huge time bomb. If this issue is not resolved now, then very soon it will explode and explode not weak ...
    1. itkul
      itkul 31 May 2013 12: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: sichevik
      Finally began to pay attention to illegal immigrants


      It seems to me that this is simply a sweep before the Sochi Olympics.
  19. Warrawar
    Warrawar 31 May 2013 12: 30 New
    +5
    I have long been saying - you need to expel all Asians and introduce a visa regime with all sorts of Tajikistan and the like.
  20. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 31 May 2013 12: 31 New
    -1
    "The President approved the Concept of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation until 2025" http://online47.ru/a/2012/06/13/Putin_sobiraetsja_uvelichiv/
  21. Lecha57
    Lecha57 31 May 2013 12: 39 New
    +4
    Any Caucasian is a potential terrorist. - Not because he has such an aspiration, they will be FORTED by their fellow tribesmen, under any pretext and under any sauce. And, they have no other choice but to "unfasten", otherwise they will either ruin or kill.
  22. individual
    individual 31 May 2013 13: 29 New
    +1
    Browser Quote:
    "We do not manage the migration process. Not in terms of violations of the migration legislation, but in what crimes are being plotted. And thus, there is nothing left but to restore order by reducing the number of illegal immigrants."

    Listening to the news:
    The mayor of Moscow says that there will be no place for migrants to live in the capital. If the federal authorities allow migrant workers into Russia, and the federal official does not let them into their territory, then what kind of power is this? The threat from uncontrolled migration from Asian republics is obvious to all Russians. Foreign culture and other people's customs we do not need.
    Why the FSB, the Russian security service itself, will not stop this threat.
    The Federal Security Service maintains security.
  23. Committee
    Committee 31 May 2013 13: 42 New
    0
    Yes no guys, everything is according to plan http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = gLjx0yGkLj8
  24. UFO
    UFO 31 May 2013 15: 50 New
    0
    It is necessary to direct the migration flow in the country in the same percentage straight to the Kremlin for residence, maybe even then these "neighbors" will explain to their presence to someone that people care. And then, they are there "in the residence" do not carry heroin .... wink
  25. O_RUS
    O_RUS 31 May 2013 17: 55 New
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    Quote: fenix57
    So, after June 1, our law enforcement agencies will begin a “fierce” fight against tobacco smoking in public places ...


    But what about ethnic crime?

    Quote: fenix57
    A lack of them will deal with migrants!


    unable to fight or not give?
  26. 1 Alexander 1
    1 Alexander 1 31 May 2013 22: 06 New
    -1
    If Arriving, it means the Islamists are waiting for us, if they are waiting it means that they are preparing a big one (the Olympics are already on the nose, the FSB is stirring up) and what exactly is not surprising from Syria, the goal of NATO is Russia, Syria will follow Iran, the Middle East B The fire! and the whole Caucasus will flare up, well, the West will shout about the new bloody dictator Putin and how he beats and pisses mess of democratizers in the toilet, for them it’s enough for the media and a dumb spectator to recall the war with Georgia.
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  28. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 1 June 2013 00: 23 New
    -3
    In the USSR there were many cockroaches and few homosexuals. Is it logical that homosexuals displace cockroaches?