Ukraine and Poland will cooperate in the defense industry

A meeting was held in Warsaw between representatives of the ministries in charge of the Polish and Ukrainian defense industries, as well as heads of the largest enterprises in this industry.

Arturo Babenko, deputy. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine, in his speech at the forum, noted that the countries did not sufficiently use existing opportunities for cooperation and called on enterprises of the defense-industrial complex to “stop talking and start acting”. In addition, he noted that the defense complex enterprises of the two countries have a huge scientific and technical potential, but they lack specificity - specific projects and affairs.

“Our main task to avoid past mistakes is not to address the issue in a bureaucratic manner,” Babenko added and assured that companies can count on the support of the defense ministry in this area.

Waldemar Skrshak, deputy. the Polish defense minister said that in the 2013-2022 years, the Polish authorities plan to spend about 40 billions of dollars on the modernization of the army. He noted that many orders will be fulfilled by enterprises of the defense complex of Poland, but added that they will not be able to fully cope with this task. This opens up opportunities for Ukrainian companies.

The most promising for Ukraine in this cooperation will be aviation industry. Poland, according to Skipshipak, is interested in modernizing aircraft in Ukraine (MiG-29 aircraft that are still in service with the Polish army, as well as Mi-8, Mi-24 helicopters). In addition, countries will engage in the joint production of military equipment to enter the military markets of third countries. In addition, lessons learned will enable countries to work together on new navigation and radar systems. Among other things, Skshipak invited Ukrainian enterprises to take part in a project to create a platform for armored vehicles.

The Minister noted: "Our cooperation confirms that it is worth developing."

In turn, Igor Odralov representative of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stressed that Ukraine is interested in the Polish experience in the implementation of some projects and can offer their own development that will interest Poland. In addition, Ukrainian enterprises can modernize Polish technology, participate in the development of new projects, and also be engaged in the joint production of technology.

Pavel Soroka, a representative of the PLP organization (“Polish Industrial Lobby”), said that several dozen defense industry enterprises of both countries participate in the one-day forum. Soroka noted that the purpose of the forum was to provide an opportunity for Ukrainian and Polish companies to establish direct contacts, which should later develop into concrete projects.

The forum was organized with the assistance of the Embassy of Ukraine in Poland.

Comments

[Dima190579]

Ha for centuries the two peoples did not like each other and here for the joint production of weapons. A strange love awakens among the fraternal people.

[il grand casino]

This is the common love of the two governments for the striped flag.

[dominatus]

This is the common love of the two countries and peoples facing the threat of "friends" from the northeast.

[dominatus]

And what other relations can be having such a neighbor as the Russian Federation? There is nothing strange about this.

[dominatus]

The neighbor has envious eyes and raking hands. It is enough to listen to the statements of the neighboring politicians, watch the neighbor’s television, recall the constant accusations and claims, recall the story of Tuzla, etc.

No one will like a neighbor who can break into your house with an ax at any time.

[LaGlobal]

Quote: dominatus

The neighbor has envious eyes and raking hands. It is enough to listen to the statements of the neighboring politicians, watch the neighbor’s television, recall the constant accusations and claims, recall the story of Tuzla, etc.

No one will like a neighbor who can break into your house with an ax at any time.

Here you are Bandera! You listen more to your Nazis, who recently came to your delight.
If we recall history, then who do you think gave all the people of the Soviet Union, including your parents, education, work, stability, strength? BUT ??? Answer fascist?
Remember once and for all! You and your Ukraine why the rotting west fell! If only black soil is used, and the NATO ghouls come closer to our borders. And in which case, YOU, first of all, run to a strong neighbor for help! EVEN, C ** And in the fucking 90, we still helped you / you! And me including In Ukraine, I was born and lived 17 years. And believe me, I have something to compare!

[QW4238]

He killed all fat and drank vodka!

[brr7710]

Quote: dominatus

And what other relations can be having such a neighbor as the Russian Federation? There is nothing strange about this.

but what about the 16th century, forgot something?

[awg75]

the people are fraternal, and the leadership ... will be betrayed at any opportunity

[shamil]

well, to understand the Ukrainian rule, they don’t want to cooperate with Russia, well, how much did they come up with fighting! the fraternal peoples shook hands and went on to conquer the world arms market. Now they are even more so all the same reluctant. Where are the brains?

[Egoza]

Quote: shamil

Where are the brains?

So after all, everything is in the hands of private traders. To cooperate with Russia, so what we can offer, Russia has its own. So they are looking, and who will take it .... But on the other hand - not bad. It seems like we are demonstrating that we are cooperating with Europe. Let them calm down, do not roll the barrel on the last steps of rapprochement with the vehicle. "A red herring, you know!"

[omsbon]

Quote: Egoza

It seems like we demonstrate that we are cooperating with Europe.

To date, cooperation with a gay rope is a dangerous thing, and even CLOSE is fraught with the "integrity" of garish lads many times!
There is a short trip to France, so tips to buy iron underpants are strewed from all sides.

[prophet190]

They have very iron reasons.

[Landwarrior]

Ukraine and Poland will cooperate in the field of defense industry

An eyepiece. Ah ah ah

[Vladimirets]

And what is this "galuz"? What kind of a mess are going to stir up?

[urich]

in spite of the fact that the translator gives the meaning to the word "galuz" - branch, from Ukrainian "galuz" - branch.
As for the article, my personal opinion is that the matter in Polish-Ukrainian relations will not go further than the accented repair of aircraft and helicopters in the article. The Poles have no desire to invest loot in Ukrainian developments, even despite the desire of Ukrainians to sell these developments.

[Truffoff]

I don’t know exactly how they will succeed, but it will end like that ..

[fenix57]

Quote: awg75

the people are fraternal, and the leadership ... will be betrayed at any opportunity

Moreover, Yanukovych was not satisfied with the conditions for Ukraine on the part of the Customs Union."Ukraine expects to receive observer status in the CU in order to maintain the existing volume of trade with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, as well as assess the pros and cons of a possible membership in the association."see http://ria.ru/world/20130530/940308329.html Yanukovych in his repertoire.Everything can not decide which way to turn.

[seller trucks]

Quote: fenix57

Ukraine expects to receive

You can watch, you can’t touch. how did the Ukrainian multi-vector

[Akim]

This is a normal process of market collaboration. Ukraine cooperates with Russia no less and is not going to curtail programs. Cooperation with Poland does not overlap in the areas of cooperation with Russia and Belarus.

[pinecone]

It may well work.

[Sashko07]

Quote: Dima190579

Ha for centuries the two peoples did not like each other and here for the joint production of weapons. A strange love awakens among the fraternal people.

Well, the other fraternal people block oxygen in this industry, so you have to work with whoever works out.

[shamil]

And UTB gas tyaz

[pensioner]

Quote: Sashko07

Well, the other fraternal people block oxygen in this industry, so you have to work with whoever works out.

Not. It’s not possible with anyone, but WITH WHOM! So more precisely me ka-a-atsya.

[Akim]

Quote: retired

, AND WITH WHOM!

Poland had a powerful defense industry. Now they are reviving it and it makes sense for the two neighboring friendly states to work in the field of defense. The completely closed process of releasing weapons is hardly cost-effective for such countries with small armies, and two or three Slavic countries can cooperate on their complexes. Naturally, a geopolitically non-aligned Ukraine has fewer interests in the development of weapons with the Czech Republic or Slovakia, although the same rights as in the development with Belarus and Russia

[brr7710]

Quote: Akim

Quote: retired

, AND WITH WHOM!

and it makes sense for two neighboring friendly states to work in the field of defense.

Is Poland friendly to Ukraine? But what about the 16th century and the Cossacks?

[Akim]

Quote: brr7710

Is Poland friendly to Ukraine? But what about the 16th century and the Cossacks?

Let’s remember Ivan the Terrible and Kazan. There is today. Poland, when was the Warsaw Pact considered an enemy? No. No one remembered how they put False Dmitry on the throne.

[Gecko]

Inadequate behavior of Ukraine pushed Russia away from closer interaction in the sphere of production and development of weapons, although there is a need, but Ukraine's westward orientation forces us to develop and produce everything ourselves.

[Vened]

Russia cooperates with India much more closely, these are normal processes, though there is little that can be received from Indians except money, unlike the Poles.

[SergeySK]

Quote: Vened

Russia cooperates with India much more closely, these are normal processes, though there is little that can be received from Indians except money, unlike the Poles.

Nuka surprise us!

The Germans have already received a petition from them demanding the return of the land!

What will they make us happy with ????

[knn54]

Poland is a large arms market, Warsaw in the next 10 years plans to allocate about 35 billion euros only for the modernization of the country's armed forces.
But there is also a minus - talented young people from Oboronka can be lured into an internship / exchange of experience and they can stay there ...

[Akim]

Quote: knn54

But there is also a minus - talented young people from Oboronka can be lured into an internship / exchange of experience and they can stay there ...

Yeah, think so simple. This is not a talented sprout from a civilian institution. There are defense mechanisms. Or do you think the "Antonovites" Russia would also not have been able to entice such an opportunity

[Gagarin]

Easy! There would be such a desire! In Russia.

[Akim]

Quote: Gagarin

It would be such a desire! Russia.

Good self-hypnosis. Only left-handed people are not in our world. And one or more defectors is not a warrior in the field. This is the work of the whole enterprise.

[knn54]

Dear Akim. At the end of the 80s / beginning of the 90s, I was not allowed to go to Canada- army, production (the first form of admission).
And the call was made by an acquaintance / colleague who left Kharkov for Severomorsk (also an electronics engineer). How he got to Canada (during the Soviet era) with a "0" form, I still don't know.
And now this is not a problem.
Regarding the Lefties. A classmate (by the way, a Lenin scholarship holder) asked for a certain package of documents under grants from the FRG 20 years ago. The result is neither money nor a "guarantor". And the Germans received unique developments of the department. And the documents were labeled "ДСП."
seller trucks: Ukraine is ready to be friends even with the devil ...
Poland and Kazakhstan signed an agreement last year. Until the supply of protective equipment and uniforms. Also machinations?

[seller trucks]

I am surprised that Ukraine is ready to make friends with the devil, even if it would be against Russia, and one more thing, of all the initiatives of the Ukrainian authorities, they didn’t bring to the end, hollow breeds.

[Akim]

Quote: seller trucks

to be friends with the devil

And what can be seen here "AGAINST RUSSIA?"

[SergeySK]

If you build a logical chain for making such a decision, then it’s not only visible, but the fool is understandable!

[Uzer 13.]

Before our eyes, the last attempt by a village tailor to surpass the Parisian fashion took place. Two outsiders decided to join forces and enter the world arms market with their new developments.

[Akim]

Quote: uzer 13

Two outsiders decided to join forces

Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters. It is unlikely that these are outsiders.

[seller trucks]

Ukraine, Poland, the Czech Republic are engaged in the modernization and export of Soviet weapons, this is counterfeit activity and copyright infringement.

[Akim]

Quote: seller trucks

Poland, the Czech Republic are engaged in the modernization and export of Soviet weapons,

Poland and the Czech Republic practically did not import Soviet weapons. And copyrights are confirmed every 10 years, and in the USSR enterprises did not have copyrights at all. And Ukraine, in recent years, sells mainly only zero samples.

[seller trucks]

Quote: Akim

Poland and the Czech Republic practically did not import Soviet weapons. And copyrights are confirmed every 10 years, and in the USSR enterprises did not have copyrights at all. And Ukraine, in recent years, sells mainly only zero samples.

Yes? discussed today:

“Given the plans voiced by the Russian side to extend the life of the RS-20 complex, in order to ensure that these works are carried out on a legal basis, the Russian Federation and Ukraine need to extend the validity of the bilateral Ukrainian-Russian intergovernmental agreement of 2006 for the 15П118M complex (launchers of the heavy missile complex RS- 20. - “HBO”). Agreement expired in 2012 year »

http://topwar.ru/28821-voevoda-esche-pozhivet.html#comment-id-1203537

"Oplot" means zero sample


Then there were contracts for the supply of X-NUMX tanks T-67М72, 1 helicopters Mi-28 and Mi-35В, 24 BMP-64 to Algeria. In 2, the contract for the supply of X-NUMX helicopters Mi-2001, Mi-16, Mi-8 and Mi-35В and 17 of T-24 tank of Macedonia, export to Libya of two transport planes An-31 and An-72. In 124-100 - cooperation with Azerbaijan, within which 2004 BTR-2007, 18 T-80 and 45 MiG-72 were exported. In 14-29 - Ukraine provided Georgia with 2005 T-2007 and 90 fighters MiG-72 and 21 Su-21 Yemen. The 12-22 sold X-2006 anti-submarine cruise missiles of Russia (2007 units).
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In 2010, the most significant event was the contract with Ethiopia on the supply of 200 upgraded T-72B. In addition, in the same year, contracts were signed with the Congo for the supply of X-NUMX tanks T-30 and 55-tanks T-100, and Sudan-72 tanks T-55 and 55 tanks T-60M. In addition, the BM-72 Grad artillery, 21-millimeter Acacia, 152-millimeter Carnation, D-122 howitzers (30 units) and 36-millimeter mortars (82 units) were also exported to the Congo. Rifles, Kalashnikov assault rifles, light and heavy machine guns, rocket launchers and 3 Mi-4 were also purchased.

http://topwar.ru/13823-ukrainskiy-eksport-vooruzheniya-osobennosti-struktury-i-r
azvitiya.html

[Akim]

Quote: seller trucks

Considering the plans voiced by the Russian side to extend the life of the RS-20 complex,

Probably Russia simply does not have technical documentation on the carrier. That's all.

Quote: seller trucks

Next up were the supply contracts

These were all second-hand supplies. And they are never forbidden by anyone. Now if they put something not licensed in the modernized equipment, then it would be a violation of copyright.

[seller trucks]

Quote: Akim

Probably Russia simply does not have technical documentation on the carrier. That's all.

do not make yourself Zhvanetsky

Quote: Akim

These were all second-hand supplies. And they are never banned by anyone.

this second hand has a mileage of no more than 1000 km, and the weapons, "in oil", did not sit on a fly.

[Gecko]

Included in the top ten, while there is an opportunity to sell the remnants of arms of the USSR.

[Truffoff]

Quote: Akim

Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters

Also say that: "Ukraine trades with China in Aircraft Carriers"
or: "Ukraine is in the first place among the exporters of aircraft-carrying ships to the PRC."

[Akim]

Quote: Truffoff

Also say that: "Ukraine trades with China in Aircraft Carriers"

Do not jerk. What can and produces. The main importer of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is Russia.

[brr7710]

Quote: Akim

Quote: uzer 13

Two outsiders decided to join forces

Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters. It is unlikely that these are outsiders.

Akim, maybe you are for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

[Akim]

Quote: brr7710

Akim, maybe you are for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

No. I am for Ukraine. I am for normal cooperation. There are Ukrainian interests. Unfortunately, they still cannot understand this in Russia. In general, I am more likely for the red than the white.

[nekromonger]

Psheks have always been our enemies, it was they who invented the so-called Ukrainian language to dismember Russia, so cooperation with them will bring nothing. they genetically hate us, but like us they do. and Ukraine is today. and tomorrow is hz.

[Akim]

Quote: nekromonger

psheks have always been our enemies

Therefore included in the Warsaw Pact. And the press, if it wishes, can make all Georgians enemies, and then present the resumption of Borjomi supplies as "world" news.

[Algor73]

In Ukraine, a powerful military-industrial complex remained. It’s not necessary for its own needs, Russia is shutting down on its own, each year building up its own production and repair. What should Ukraine do? Of course, you can, as some complain, fold the legs and slowly to the bottom. But we somehow need to live. I understand that after all, the Russian people are closer than the Poles. But since Russia is not needed, it means they are looking for the one with whom it is possible. He is Russia, also not in Belarus, or in Kazakhstan, but in Jordan has opened a plant for the production of RPG-32. What, are Arabs closer to them than the Slovens? No. Just a business interest.

[SergeySK]

So that you know RPG 32 was developed by order of Jordan!

And under the contract it was separately stipulated that its production will be established in Jordan!
Conclude such contracts with us and we will open production at your place!

[Ivanovich47]

Quote: In Ukraine, a powerful military-industrial complex remained. For their own needs not needed, Russia closes on its.
I agree (partially) with the author. I want to ask a question: who is to blame for the failure to cooperate between Russian and Ukrainian defense industry enterprises? Why are the centuries-old enemies of Russia and Ukraine smarter than us? I propose to think about it both in Russia and Ukraine.

[Algor73]

I agree with you 100%. Only, alas, they do not ask our opinion

[Fofan]

ahaha! the best news! after a year of such cooperation, the army of Poland will cease to exist

[Conepatus]

No, it’s okay to upgrade aircraft, it’s normal. Enterprises will load, people, again, are paid.
But I would beware of cooperating with Poland in the field of arms development. When Russia, together with Italy, developed a new TCB. And sho? The pasta came out of the project, taking documentation with them on the glider, and now they are stamping their TCB. And Poles are more pompous than Italians will be. Poles are still those Jews
The film about Four Tankers and a dog was forbidden to be shown on its TV. Bullish.

[bubble82009]

Well, engineers understand, there isn’t enough production. but doctors? why else bring poverty?