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Ukraine and Poland will cooperate in the defense industry

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A meeting was held in Warsaw between representatives of the ministries in charge of the Polish and Ukrainian defense industries, as well as heads of the largest enterprises in this industry.


Arturo Babenko, deputy. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine, in his speech at the forum, noted that the countries did not sufficiently use existing opportunities for cooperation and called on enterprises of the defense-industrial complex to “stop talking and start acting”. In addition, he noted that the defense complex enterprises of the two countries have a huge scientific and technical potential, but they lack specificity - specific projects and affairs.

“Our main task to avoid past mistakes is not to address the issue in a bureaucratic manner,” Babenko added and assured that companies can count on the support of the defense ministry in this area.

Waldemar Skrshak, deputy. the Polish defense minister said that in the 2013-2022 years, the Polish authorities plan to spend about 40 billions of dollars on the modernization of the army. He noted that many orders will be fulfilled by enterprises of the defense complex of Poland, but added that they will not be able to fully cope with this task. This opens up opportunities for Ukrainian companies.

The most promising for Ukraine in this cooperation will be aviation industry. Poland, according to Skipshipak, is interested in modernizing aircraft in Ukraine (MiG-29 aircraft that are still in service with the Polish army, as well as Mi-8, Mi-24 helicopters). In addition, countries will engage in the joint production of military equipment to enter the military markets of third countries. In addition, lessons learned will enable countries to work together on new navigation and radar systems. Among other things, Skshipak invited Ukrainian enterprises to take part in a project to create a platform for armored vehicles.

Ukraine and Poland will cooperate in the defense industry




The Minister noted: "Our cooperation confirms that it is worth developing."

In turn, Igor Odralov representative of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stressed that Ukraine is interested in the Polish experience in the implementation of some projects and can offer their own development that will interest Poland. In addition, Ukrainian enterprises can modernize Polish technology, participate in the development of new projects, and also be engaged in the joint production of technology.

Pavel Soroka, a representative of the PLP organization (“Polish Industrial Lobby”), said that several dozen defense industry enterprises of both countries participate in the one-day forum. Soroka noted that the purpose of the forum was to provide an opportunity for Ukrainian and Polish companies to establish direct contacts, which should later develop into concrete projects.

The forum was organized with the assistance of the Embassy of Ukraine in Poland.
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  1. Dima190579
    Dima190579 31 May 2013 08: 04 New
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    Ha for centuries the two peoples did not like each other and here for the joint production of weapons. A strange love awakens among the fraternal people.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 1 June 2013 00: 02 New
      +1
      This is the common love of the two governments for the striped flag.
      1. dominatus
        dominatus 1 June 2013 01: 31 New
        -12
        This is the common love of the two countries and peoples facing the threat of "friends" from the northeast.
    2. dominatus
      dominatus 1 June 2013 01: 30 New
      -6
      And what other relations can be having such a neighbor as the Russian Federation? There is nothing strange about this.
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        1. dominatus
          dominatus 1 June 2013 12: 01 New
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          The neighbor has envious eyes and raking hands. It is enough to listen to the statements of the neighboring politicians, watch the neighbor’s television, recall the constant accusations and claims, recall the story of Tuzla, etc.

          No one will like a neighbor who can break into your house with an ax at any time.
          1. LaGlobal
            LaGlobal 7 June 2013 09: 35 New
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            Quote: dominatus
            The neighbor has envious eyes and raking hands. It is enough to listen to the statements of the neighboring politicians, watch the neighbor’s television, recall the constant accusations and claims, recall the story of Tuzla, etc.

            No one will like a neighbor who can break into your house with an ax at any time.


            Here you are Bandera! You listen more to your Nazis, who recently came to your delight.
            If we recall history, then who do you think gave all the people of the Soviet Union, including your parents, education, work, stability, strength? BUT ??? Answer fascist?
            Remember once and for all! You and your Ukraine why the rotting west fell! If only black soil is used, and the NATO ghouls come closer to our borders. And in which case, YOU, first of all, run to a strong neighbor for help! EVEN, C ** And in the fucking 90, we still helped you / you! And me including In Ukraine, I was born and lived 17 years. And believe me, I have something to compare!
        2. QW4238
          QW4238 1 June 2013 18: 14 New
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          He killed all fat and drank vodka!
      2. brr7710
        brr7710 9 June 2013 06: 20 New
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        Quote: dominatus
        And what other relations can be having such a neighbor as the Russian Federation? There is nothing strange about this.


        but what about the 16th century, forgot something?
  2. awg75
    awg75 31 May 2013 08: 36 New
    +5
    the people are fraternal, and the leadership ... will be betrayed at any opportunity
  3. shamil
    shamil 31 May 2013 08: 41 New
    +2
    well, to understand the Ukrainian rule, they don’t want to cooperate with Russia, well, how much did they come up with fighting! the fraternal peoples shook hands and went on to conquer the world arms market. Now they are even more so all the same reluctant. Where are the brains?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 31 May 2013 10: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: shamil
      Where are the brains?

      So after all, everything is in the hands of private traders. To cooperate with Russia, so what we can offer, Russia has its own. So they are looking, and who will take it .... But on the other hand - not bad. It seems like we are demonstrating that we are cooperating with Europe. Let them calm down, do not roll the barrel on the last steps of rapprochement with the vehicle. "A red herring, you know!" fellow
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 31 May 2013 11: 14 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        It seems like we demonstrate that we are cooperating with Europe.

        To date, cooperation with a gay rope is a dangerous thing, and even CLOSE is fraught with the "integrity" of garish lads many times!
        There is a short trip to France, so tips to buy iron underpants are strewed from all sides.
        1. prophet190
          prophet190 1 June 2013 08: 50 New
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          They have very iron reasons.
  4. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 31 May 2013 08: 43 New
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    Ukraine and Poland will cooperate in the field of defense industry

    An eyepiece. Ah ah ah wink
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 31 May 2013 08: 48 New
    -1
    And what is this "galuz"? What kind of a mess are going to stir up?
    1. urich
      urich 31 May 2013 09: 13 New
      +5
      in spite of the fact that the translator gives the meaning to the word "galuz" - branch, from Ukrainian "galuz" - branch.
      As for the article, my personal opinion is that the matter in Polish-Ukrainian relations will not go further than the accented repair of aircraft and helicopters in the article. The Poles have no desire to invest loot in Ukrainian developments, even despite the desire of Ukrainians to sell these developments.
      1. Truffoff
        Truffoff 31 May 2013 22: 32 New
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        I don’t know exactly how they will succeed, but it will end like that ..

  6. fenix57
    fenix57 31 May 2013 09: 09 New
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    Quote: awg75
    the people are fraternal, and the leadership ... will be betrayed at any opportunity

    Moreover, Yanukovych was not satisfied with the conditions for Ukraine on the part of the Customs Union."Ukraine expects to receive observer status in the CU in order to maintain the existing volume of trade with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, as well as assess the pros and cons of a possible membership in the association."see http://ria.ru/world/20130530/940308329.html Yanukovych in his repertoire.Everything can not decide which way to turn.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 31 May 2013 17: 01 New
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      Quote: fenix57
      Ukraine expects to receive


      You can watch, you can’t touch. how did the Ukrainian multi-vector
  7. Akim
    Akim 31 May 2013 09: 23 New
    +9
    This is a normal process of market collaboration. Ukraine cooperates with Russia no less and is not going to curtail programs. Cooperation with Poland does not overlap in the areas of cooperation with Russia and Belarus.
  8. pinecone
    pinecone 31 May 2013 10: 03 New
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    It may well work.
  9. Sashko07
    Sashko07 31 May 2013 13: 28 New
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    Quote: Dima190579
    Ha for centuries the two peoples did not like each other and here for the joint production of weapons. A strange love awakens among the fraternal people.

    Well, the other fraternal people block oxygen in this industry, so you have to work with whoever works out.
    1. shamil
      shamil 31 May 2013 14: 46 New
      +1
      And UTB gas tyaz
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 31 May 2013 16: 05 New
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      Quote: Sashko07
      Well, the other fraternal people block oxygen in this industry, so you have to work with whoever works out.

      Not. It’s not possible with anyone, but WITH WHOM! So more precisely me ka-a-atsya.
      1. Akim
        Akim 31 May 2013 16: 22 New
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        Quote: retired
        , AND WITH WHOM!

        Poland had a powerful defense industry. Now they are reviving it and it makes sense for the two neighboring friendly states to work in the field of defense. The completely closed process of releasing weapons is hardly cost-effective for such countries with small armies, and two or three Slavic countries can cooperate on their complexes. Naturally, a geopolitically non-aligned Ukraine has fewer interests in the development of weapons with the Czech Republic or Slovakia, although the same rights as in the development with Belarus and Russia
        1. brr7710
          brr7710 9 June 2013 06: 23 New
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          Quote: Akim
          Quote: retired
          , AND WITH WHOM!

          and it makes sense for two neighboring friendly states to work in the field of defense.


          Is Poland friendly to Ukraine? But what about the 16th century and the Cossacks?
          1. Akim
            Akim 9 June 2013 07: 14 New
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            Quote: brr7710
            Is Poland friendly to Ukraine? But what about the 16th century and the Cossacks?

            Let’s remember Ivan the Terrible and Kazan. There is today. Poland, when was the Warsaw Pact considered an enemy? No. No one remembered how they put False Dmitry on the throne.
    3. Gecko
      Gecko 31 May 2013 17: 36 New
      +1
      Inadequate behavior of Ukraine pushed Russia away from closer interaction in the sphere of production and development of weapons, although there is a need, but Ukraine's westward orientation forces us to develop and produce everything ourselves.
  10. Vened
    Vened 31 May 2013 14: 42 New
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    Russia cooperates with India much more closely, these are normal processes, though there is little that can be received from Indians except money, unlike the Poles.
    1. SergeySK
      SergeySK 1 June 2013 04: 42 New
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      Quote: Vened
      Russia cooperates with India much more closely, these are normal processes, though there is little that can be received from Indians except money, unlike the Poles.


      Nuka surprise us!

      The Germans have already received a petition from them demanding the return of the land!

      What will they make us happy with ????
  11. knn54
    knn54 31 May 2013 16: 12 New
    +3
    Poland is a large arms market, Warsaw in the next 10 years plans to allocate about 35 billion euros only for the modernization of the country's armed forces.
    But there is also a minus - talented young people from Oboronka can be lured into an internship / exchange of experience and they can stay there ...
    1. Akim
      Akim 31 May 2013 16: 28 New
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      Quote: knn54
      But there is also a minus - talented young people from Oboronka can be lured into an internship / exchange of experience and they can stay there ...

      Yeah, think so simple. This is not a talented sprout from a civilian institution. There are defense mechanisms. Or do you think the "Antonovites" Russia would also not have been able to entice such an opportunity
      1. Gagarin
        Gagarin 31 May 2013 16: 55 New
        -2
        Easy! There would be such a desire! In Russia.
        1. Akim
          Akim 31 May 2013 17: 02 New
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          Quote: Gagarin
          It would be such a desire! Russia.

          Good self-hypnosis. Only left-handed people are not in our world. And one or more defectors is not a warrior in the field. This is the work of the whole enterprise.
      2. knn54
        knn54 31 May 2013 19: 09 New
        +2
        Dear Akim. At the end of the 80s / beginning of the 90s, I was not allowed to go to Canada- army, production (the first form of admission).
        And the call was made by an acquaintance / colleague who left Kharkov for Severomorsk (also an electronics engineer). How he got to Canada (during the Soviet era) with a "0" form, I still don't know.
        And now this is not a problem.
        Regarding the Lefties. A classmate (by the way, a Lenin scholarship holder) asked for a certain package of documents under grants from the FRG 20 years ago. The result is neither money nor a "guarantor". And the Germans received unique developments of the department. And the documents were labeled "ДСП."
        seller trucks: Ukraine is ready to be friends even with the devil ...
        Poland and Kazakhstan signed an agreement last year. Until the supply of protective equipment and uniforms. Also machinations?
  12. seller trucks
    seller trucks 31 May 2013 16: 37 New
    +2
    I am surprised that Ukraine is ready to make friends with the devil, even if it would be against Russia, and one more thing, of all the initiatives of the Ukrainian authorities, they didn’t bring to the end, hollow breeds.
    1. Akim
      Akim 31 May 2013 16: 51 New
      -1
      Quote: seller trucks
      to be friends with the devil

      And what can be seen here "AGAINST RUSSIA?"
      1. SergeySK
        SergeySK 1 June 2013 04: 48 New
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        If you build a logical chain for making such a decision, then it’s not only visible, but the fool is understandable!
  13. uzer 13
    uzer 13 31 May 2013 16: 53 New
    -4
    Before our eyes, the last attempt by a village tailor to surpass the Parisian fashion took place. Two outsiders decided to join forces and enter the world arms market with their new developments.
    1. Akim
      Akim 31 May 2013 17: 20 New
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      Quote: uzer 13
      Two outsiders decided to join forces

      Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters. It is unlikely that these are outsiders.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 31 May 2013 17: 35 New
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        Ukraine, Poland, the Czech Republic are engaged in the modernization and export of Soviet weapons, this is counterfeit activity and copyright infringement.
        1. Akim
          Akim 31 May 2013 17: 41 New
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          Quote: seller trucks
          Poland, the Czech Republic are engaged in the modernization and export of Soviet weapons,

          Poland and the Czech Republic practically did not import Soviet weapons. And copyrights are confirmed every 10 years, and in the USSR enterprises did not have copyrights at all. And Ukraine, in recent years, sells mainly only zero samples.
          1. seller trucks
            seller trucks 31 May 2013 17: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Akim
            Poland and the Czech Republic practically did not import Soviet weapons. And copyrights are confirmed every 10 years, and in the USSR enterprises did not have copyrights at all. And Ukraine, in recent years, sells mainly only zero samples.


            Yes? discussed today:

            “Given the plans voiced by the Russian side to extend the life of the RS-20 complex, in order to ensure that these works are carried out on a legal basis, the Russian Federation and Ukraine need to extend the validity of the bilateral Ukrainian-Russian intergovernmental agreement of 2006 for the 15П118M complex (launchers of the heavy missile complex RS- 20. - “HBO”). Agreement expired in 2012 year »

            http://topwar.ru/28821-voevoda-esche-pozhivet.html#comment-id-1203537

            "Oplot" means zero sample


            Then there were contracts for the supply of X-NUMX tanks T-67М72, 1 helicopters Mi-28 and Mi-35В, 24 BMP-64 to Algeria. In 2, the contract for the supply of X-NUMX helicopters Mi-2001, Mi-16, Mi-8 and Mi-35В and 17 of T-24 tank of Macedonia, export to Libya of two transport planes An-31 and An-72. In 124-100 - cooperation with Azerbaijan, within which 2004 BTR-2007, 18 T-80 and 45 MiG-72 were exported. In 14-29 - Ukraine provided Georgia with 2005 T-2007 and 90 fighters MiG-72 and 21 Su-21 Yemen. The 12-22 sold X-2006 anti-submarine cruise missiles of Russia (2007 units).
            ------
            In 2010, the most significant event was the contract with Ethiopia on the supply of 200 upgraded T-72B. In addition, in the same year, contracts were signed with the Congo for the supply of X-NUMX tanks T-30 and 55-tanks T-100, and Sudan-72 tanks T-55 and 55 tanks T-60M. In addition, the BM-72 Grad artillery, 21-millimeter Acacia, 152-millimeter Carnation, D-122 howitzers (30 units) and 36-millimeter mortars (82 units) were also exported to the Congo. Rifles, Kalashnikov assault rifles, light and heavy machine guns, rocket launchers and 3 Mi-4 were also purchased.

            http://topwar.ru/13823-ukrainskiy-eksport-vooruzheniya-osobennosti-struktury-i-r
            azvitiya.html
            1. Akim
              Akim 31 May 2013 17: 57 New
              -5
              Quote: seller trucks
              Considering the plans voiced by the Russian side to extend the life of the RS-20 complex,

              Probably Russia simply does not have technical documentation on the carrier. That's all.
              Quote: seller trucks
              Next up were the supply contracts

              These were all second-hand supplies. And they are never forbidden by anyone. Now if they put something not licensed in the modernized equipment, then it would be a violation of copyright.
              1. seller trucks
                seller trucks 1 June 2013 08: 32 New
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                Quote: Akim
                Probably Russia simply does not have technical documentation on the carrier. That's all.


                do not make yourself Zhvanetsky

                Quote: Akim
                These were all second-hand supplies. And they are never banned by anyone.


                this second hand has a mileage of no more than 1000 km, and the weapons, "in oil", did not sit on a fly.
      2. Gecko
        Gecko 31 May 2013 17: 36 New
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        Included in the top ten, while there is an opportunity to sell the remnants of arms of the USSR.
      3. Truffoff
        Truffoff 31 May 2013 22: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Akim
        Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters

        Also say that: "Ukraine trades with China in Aircraft Carriers" lol
        or: "Ukraine is in the first place among the exporters of aircraft-carrying ships to the PRC."
        1. Akim
          Akim 31 May 2013 22: 17 New
          -2
          Quote: Truffoff
          Also say that: "Ukraine trades with China in Aircraft Carriers"

          Do not jerk. What can and produces. The main importer of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is Russia.
      4. brr7710
        brr7710 9 June 2013 06: 27 New
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        Quote: Akim
        Quote: uzer 13
        Two outsiders decided to join forces

        Ukraine is in the top ten, and Poland is in the top twenty largest arms exporters. It is unlikely that these are outsiders.


        Akim, maybe you are for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
        1. Akim
          Akim 9 June 2013 07: 18 New
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          Quote: brr7710
          Akim, maybe you are for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

          No. I am for Ukraine. I am for normal cooperation. There are Ukrainian interests. Unfortunately, they still cannot understand this in Russia. In general, I am more likely for the red than the white.
  14. nekromonger
    nekromonger 31 May 2013 18: 09 New
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    Psheks have always been our enemies, it was they who invented the so-called Ukrainian language to dismember Russia, so cooperation with them will bring nothing. they genetically hate us, but like us they do. and Ukraine is today. and tomorrow is hz.
    1. Akim
      Akim 31 May 2013 18: 22 New
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      Quote: nekromonger
      psheks have always been our enemies

      Therefore included in the Warsaw Pact. laughing And the press, if it wishes, can make all Georgians enemies, and then present the resumption of Borjomi supplies as "world" news.
  15. Algor73
    Algor73 31 May 2013 18: 42 New
    +3
    In Ukraine, a powerful military-industrial complex remained. It’s not necessary for its own needs, Russia is shutting down on its own, each year building up its own production and repair. What should Ukraine do? Of course, you can, as some complain, fold the legs and slowly to the bottom. But we somehow need to live. I understand that after all, the Russian people are closer than the Poles. But since Russia is not needed, it means they are looking for the one with whom it is possible. He is Russia, also not in Belarus, or in Kazakhstan, but in Jordan has opened a plant for the production of RPG-32. What, are Arabs closer to them than the Slovens? No. Just a business interest.
    1. SergeySK
      SergeySK 1 June 2013 05: 01 New
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      So that you know RPG 32 was developed by order of Jordan!

      And under the contract it was separately stipulated that its production will be established in Jordan!
      Conclude such contracts with us and we will open production at your place!
  16. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 31 May 2013 20: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: In Ukraine, a powerful military-industrial complex remained. For their own needs not needed, Russia closes on its.
    I agree (partially) with the author. I want to ask a question: who is to blame for the failure to cooperate between Russian and Ukrainian defense industry enterprises? Why are the centuries-old enemies of Russia and Ukraine smarter than us? I propose to think about it both in Russia and Ukraine.
    1. Algor73
      Algor73 31 May 2013 21: 22 New
      -2
      I agree with you 100%. Only, alas, they do not ask our opinion
  17. Fofan
    Fofan 31 May 2013 20: 30 New
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    ahaha! the best news! after a year of such cooperation, the army of Poland will cease to exist
  18. Conepatus
    Conepatus 1 June 2013 00: 29 New
    +1
    No, it’s okay to upgrade aircraft, it’s normal. Enterprises will load, people, again, are paid.
    But I would beware of cooperating with Poland in the field of arms development. When Russia, together with Italy, developed a new TCB. And sho? The pasta came out of the project, taking documentation with them on the glider, and now they are stamping their TCB. And Poles are more pompous than Italians will be. Poles are still those Jews
    The film about Four Tankers and a dog was forbidden to be shown on its TV. Bullish.
  19. bublic82009
    bublic82009 1 June 2013 00: 53 New
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    Well, engineers understand, there isn’t enough production. but doctors? why else bring poverty?
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