New strikes on dry cargo ships near Odessa and ballistic missiles on Kyiv

The Russian Armed Forces continue to systematically strike naval vessels deployed in support of Ukrainian forces. On the evening of August 5 and the night of August 6, two vessels delivering military supplies were hit by attack drones in the Black Sea, south and east of Odesa.

According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the strikes were carried out by rocket crews. drones Geranium-4 Seeker. The ships were damaged in the Black Sea operational zone, significantly reducing the enemy's ability to transport weapons and military equipment. Earlier, on August 5, the Ministry of Defense reported the destruction of five dry cargo ships in the port of Mykolaiv and in the waters off Odesa.

In parallel with the strikes on naval targets, on the night of August 6, Russian forces launched a massive attack on other territories of Ukraine. According to sources, at least two ballistic missiles were launched in the direction of the Ukrainian capital. missiles.

It is noteworthy that, according to the Ukrainian Air Force command, electronic warfare systems were used (EW) with the aim of "misleading the Russian Armed Forces" and diverting the missiles. The extent to which this claim is accurate remains to be seen.

Let us recall that the day before, during the Russian Armed Forces' strike on targets in the Ukrainian capital, the Kyiv regime's troops failed to shoot down a single missile. In this regard, Zelensky literally switched to demands regarding NATO countries to transfer new missiles to Kyiv for the systems. Defense-PRO.

Comments

[your vsr 66-67]

The ships were damaged in the Black Sea operational zone,

This is our loyalty!
Ships should not be damaged, but sunk!
Then ship owners will lose the desire to send their troughs to this unfinished 404!

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

It's really strange... in the Strait of Hormuz, a couple of drone strikes were enough for everyone to understand and stop moving, but here it's already over 30 and no one gets it - either the captains there are Ukrainians (or people of equal intelligence) or something else - I just can't figure it out.

[Svetlana]

Not enough. News regularly comes in that this or that ship, or vessel, failed to request permission and was hit. A couple of days ago, for example,

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

Not enough. News comes in regularly.

It's different there - there the Sesheasts constantly guarantee free passage and someone believes them - here, no one guarantees anything (or guarantees and doesn't tell us)

[Mitrich73]

Some time ago, with British support, there were plans to create a $500 million shipping support fund to cover damage to shipowners delivering cargo to Ukrainian ports. Most likely, losses from damaged vessels are being covered by this fund, or are being declared to be.

[All names are taken]

Nothing personal, just business.
The increased cost of oil deliveries, coupled with repair costs, makes the business more unprofitable than tanker downtime. That's why everyone in Hormuz is standing and waiting. If arms deliveries with increased ship repair costs are acceptable, Ukrainianspuppeteers - deliveries continue.

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

Sailors are paid 5-10 thousand dollars per voyage, this is payment for the risk and there are those who are willing to do it, I think ship owners are also paid a risk premium

[Coward]

Do you know what ship repair is? What does it mean to present a vessel to a classification society after an accident? And what is a classification society anyway? Did you present the vessel to the classification society inspectors? What is the scope of work after a fire?
For a ship owner, sinking a vessel is much more profitable than repairing a damaged one, especially after a fire.

[Vadim Isaev]

Are damaged vessels able to continue delivering cargo to the port, whether under their own power or under tow?

[Coward]

To the nearest port, where classification documents are no longer valid until both the damage resulting from the accident and any non-compliance with regulations identified by the inspector during the vessel's inspection are corrected. Then, you need to find a repair facility with available capacity. The cost of repairing damaged vessels is always 2x or higher. In addition, crew salaries, food, garbage removal, spare parts, etc. are included.

[Havoc]

Quote: Vadim Isaev

Are damaged vessels able to continue delivering cargo to the port, whether under their own power or under tow?

First, how do you continue moving if your cabin is destroyed, and the video shows Geraniums flying in there?
Second, does Ukraine have any sea-going tugboats left? A port tugboat won't do.
And the last ones, they'll drag it in and even unload it, and then where will they put it? Everything around the port was mined back in 2022, and there's not much room for parking.

[All names are taken]

All this is good for a "dispute between economic entities," but not for war. So what is the SVO?

[Bayun]

Answer:
1. Russian: fair fight against world Satanism.
2. Ukrainian: permanent, depressingly hopeless "not dying" without any affirmative meaning.
3. Globalist: preventing the collapse of global capitalism by killing Russians and Ukrainians. Human sacrifice to Mammon.

All 3 are "correct", but only the first one is CORRECT.

[Alexey Lantukh]

2. Ukrainian: permanent, depressingly hopeless "not dying" without any affirmative meaning.

This is from the perspective of a Russian patriot. But from the perspective of the average Ukrainian TV viewer, this is Russian aggression against Ukraine.
After all, we shouldn't have been the first to attack Kyiv in 2022. We should have waited for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to attack Donbas and then sent in troops. We wouldn't have been the "aggressors" in many ways. Moreover, the main covert attack was on Kharkiv, and also from Crimea. We should have encircled the entire Donbas group and sent all its troops into Ukraine, unarmed. That's the kind of "if only" strategist I am.

[Bayun]

Ah, no. #2 – the opinion of a true Ukrainian patriot with a higher education and who has seen the world.

A REASONABLE Ukrainian clearly understands that the West will sooner or later leave them alone against Russia. Meanwhile, the "unreasonable Khazars" in Kyiv are terrified of having to answer to both the Ukrainian and Russian peoples for inciting discord.

[Havoc]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

After all, in 2022, they shouldn't have been the first to attack Kyiv, but rather waited for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to attack Donbass and then sent in troops.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces were stationed eight kilometers from Donetsk, with a 130-strong force. It would have taken them only a few hours to enter Donetsk, and then the massacre would have begun. The DPR militia would not have been able to stop them without heavy weapons and aviation.
The strike was preemptive, when our leadership realized an attack was coming. So the measure was necessary.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Our leadership realized there would be an attack. So the measure was forced.

You're right about that, but the troops in the people's republics should have been reinforced with "volunteers" beforehand, which was basically the case before. And if the Ukrainian Armed Forces had reached the outskirts of the city, that wouldn't have been a big deal. It's quite difficult to fight with tanks in the city. They would have gotten bogged down there. And that would have been a pretext to send in troops. And we wouldn't have been formally considered "aggressors."

[Havoc]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

Our leadership realized there would be an attack. So the measure was forced.

You're right about that, but the troops in the people's republics should have been reinforced with "volunteers" beforehand, which was basically the case before. And if the Ukrainian Armed Forces had reached the outskirts of the city, that wouldn't have been a big deal. It's quite difficult to fight with tanks in the city. They would have gotten bogged down there. And that would have been a pretext to send in troops. And we wouldn't have been formally considered "aggressors."

How long would the DPR militia have held out without air support and heavy weapons? And how long would it have taken to give the order and form columns? A day is a minimum. Remember what happened in South Ossetia? If you strike first, you always have a head start.
And we would have been the "aggressors" in any case.

[Coward]

Did you read the original comment to which I wrote my own?

[All names are taken]

Yes, of course I read it. And I agree with him completely. The ships need to be sunk, because I see the main goal as stopping arms supplies to Ukraine, not making them more expensive.

[Rusfaner]

Quote: your vsr 66-67

The ships were damaged in the Black Sea operational zone,

This is our loyalty!
Ships should not be damaged, but sunk!
Then ship owners will lose the desire to send their troughs to this unfinished 404!

Someone benefits from not drowning. I wonder who?

[Grossvater]

Quote: Rusfaner

Quote: your vsr 66-67

The ships were damaged in the Black Sea operational zone,

This is our loyalty!
Ships should not be damaged, but sunk!
Then ship owners will lose the desire to send their troughs to this unfinished 404!

Someone benefits from not drowning. I wonder who?

Oh my God!
Well, read something. It's hard to sink a ship. Especially a large one; you have to make a hole in it below the waterline. A big one. Preferably more than one. It's either a torpedo, a mine, or a large-caliber bomb dropped from a decent height so that it doesn't just pierce the hull but also detonates as it passes through the bottom.

[Kerensky]

These are either a torpedo, a mine, or a large-caliber bomb dropped from a decent height,

People say we had some kind of coastal missile systems. And they were able to fire right through the Black Sea.
Are they lying, I suppose?

[Boycott]

He who wants, looks for a way, he who doesn’t, looks for an excuse.

Attributed to Socrates. One thing is clear: the ships don't sink, the cargo is safe. And we haven't said a word about what happens to it afterwards, which is strange, to say the least. And personally, I want problems with Ukraine receiving weapons and exporting goods, not with shipowners repairing their troughs.

[Casey_Ryback]

No, it's more likely like with a wounded man, so they can take care of him and divert resources. Plus, a damaged ship abandoned by its crew could theoretically drift to us, and then photos and videos would be available for the public. Drowning would be a complete disaster, and the environment could end up washed up on the same beach.

[All names are taken]

and the environment can also wash up on the same beach.

During WWII, they didn't think about this and won. And the environment was no worse than today.

[snow mountain]

Quote: Kerensky

People say we had some kind of coastal missile systems. And they were able to fire right through the Black Sea.

Yes, we had a lot of things. The country was even great.

[vladmcs]

One of the reasons why they don't sink them, but damage them: can you imagine what would happen to the Black and Azov Seas if this bunch of little ships were sent to the bottom?