Beijing is outraged by US plans to supply Taiwan with a new arms package.

Just weeks before the Trump-Xi Jinping summit, which is already marred by bilateral trade tensions, Washington has re-energized discussions about multi-billion dollar supplies weapons Taiwan

Michael McCaul, Chairman Emeritus of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, stated at a security forum in Taipei that he is confident that US President Donald Trump will soon send Congress a $14 billion critical defense package. This statement came during his third visit to Taiwan, where he was awarded an award by the local governor, William Lai Qing-de, who styles himself president.

It is worth recalling that earlier, in May, deliveries were frozen due to the US-Iran conflict, but now discussions have resumed.

According to information from open sources, the core of the package is air defense systems. It includes: anti-aircraft missile PAC-3 Patriot systems—one additional battery that will expand the capabilities to intercept ballistic missiles. There are also nine NASAMS batteries—highly mobile complexes. Defense The $8,6 billion IBCS system will connect all of the island's air defense assets into a single network.

The total value of the contract could make it the largest in stories similar deals between the US and Taiwan.

McCaul emphasized that US policy on arms sales to Taiwan is "independent of US-China relations." These statements have already sparked outrage in Beijing, which has repeatedly called such sales a gross violation of the "one China" principle. Official notification to Congress is expected to follow soon.

At the same time, experts believe that Trump will not approve the deal with Taipei before meeting with the Chinese President.

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[DIM (a)]

This news comes amid ongoing speculation that the US has run out of weapons...

[January]

Just because it's out of stock doesn't mean it can't be sold.

[Michael]

Quote: ian

Just because it's out of stock doesn't mean it can't be sold.

I immediately remembered the imperishable:
"Bobby was a good boy from birth,
Had a hobby for Bobby - he loved money,
Loved and saved.
All children, like children, live without worries,
And Bob on a diet doesn’t eat and drink,
He puts it in a piggy bank.
Money, money, rubbish,
Forgetting peace and laziness
Make money make money
And the rest is rubbish!
And the rest is rubbish!
Here is a penny, there is a shilling
And somewhere - a pound!
Became a bobby cheater,
Cheater and rogue,
I saved a whole pound!
But the fact of the matter is that he is not alone,
Who loved money more than anyone else.
He forgot it!
Money, money, rubbish,
Forgetting peace and laziness
Make money make money
And the rest is all rubbish!

[All names are taken]

Somewhere in the corner, one Zelensky is crying.

[Pur Navolok]

Well, you Chinese gentlemen have the policy of a multi-vector monkey (they supply drone components and the like to both us and the Pig Barn), wisely sitting in a tree and waiting for an enemy corpse to float by. So be patient and don't get upset.

[Reserve officer]

Well, maybe it's time to climb down from the tree? And take up arms and begin evolution according to Darwin's theory?

[Pur Navolok]

They're not warriors, and it must be acknowledged that their wait-and-see policy (which they can afford thanks to their fertility and business acumen) makes sense - for several millennia, who hasn't bullied and humiliated them, and where are all these "humiliators"? And China stands still.

[alexoff]

The Japanese had been bullying them since the late 19th century, so much so that China was literally falling apart, and if not for the USSR, it would never have gotten back together. And all is well in Japan. Before that, the Manchus had captured China, plundered it, and destroyed it to the point of complete collapse, surrendering everything they could and couldn't, and inflicting a hundred years of humiliation. A pretty crappy strategy, it would have been easy to die.

[Pur Navolok]

However, I repeat, they haven't died for several millennia, and now they're on an unprecedented rise. It seems to me they still have several more millennia of existence ahead of them, which I wholeheartedly wish for our bright Mother Russia.

[alexoff]

It's a dubious strategy, and it seems the Chinese didn't usually have such a plan—to lose a war to a conqueror and then outlive him. They didn't lose because of great intelligence or skill. The Romans also destroyed their empire, surrendering to the barbarians. Italy stands, but I doubt the Romans liked the loss of their country—they had to pick up a plow and plow, and after a couple of generations, no one could read or write.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Pur Navolok

It seems to me that they still have several millennia of existence ahead of them.

It seems to me that human civilization as a whole doesn't have a single millennium ahead of it. In 200 years, there won't be oil, gas, copper, or other resources in the quantities necessary to maintain the current level... And there's nowhere to get them from; space expansion is a hoax...

[Vitaly161]

The Japanese have been screwing them since the end of the 19th century so much that China literally fell apart.

And before the Japanese, the British caused a complete uproar there, after the Opium Wars there was no united China in principle, and even after the end of World War II there was such a turmoil there that it was my mother's fault.
And modern China is the work of the capitalists of the USA; an American won’t work for a bowl of rice...

[alexoff]

The Manchus caused a stir; they did whatever they wanted for almost three hundred years. By the 19th century, they had degenerated so much that after localized battles, they sought to strike a deal, surrendering sovereignty, and then again, and again. And then we should drive out the foreigners, get them, the Boxer People! No, they're the bad guys. Beat the Boxer People and pay the foreigners who saved us from these ignorant people!
And this is despite the fact that at the beginning of the 19th century, China accounted for a third of global GDP—it now needs to almost double that amount. And with such resources, they couldn't do anything and squandered literally a couple of percent over the course of a century and a half.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote from alexoff

The Manchus caused a stir; for almost three hundred years they did whatever they wanted, and by the 19th century they had degraded so much that at the beginning of the 19th century China accounted for a third of the world's GDP.

The cognitive dissonance
This is normal degradation!

[smart fellow]

In general, famous Russian orientalists say 50% of the world's production of goods.

This is normal degradation!

If someone becomes a drug addict, or, as they say, hooked on the needle, how quickly does it degenerate? The British hooked all of China on opium as a result of the Opium Wars. That's why China and some other East and Southeast Asian countries (including Singapore, Vietnam, and Malaysia) have the death penalty for drug-related offenses—though they have been moderated in the last decade. Japan and Korea weren't harmed by British sales of Indian opium, and they don't have the death penalty for drug offenses.

[alexoff]

It's surprising that people were addicted to drugs in Britain back then, too; laws against their use weren't introduced until the 20th century. But the Chinese were addicted, while Sherlock Holmes, for example, benefited from it.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote from alexoff

It's surprising that people were addicted to drugs in Britain back then, too; laws against their use weren't introduced until the 20th century. But the Chinese were addicted, while Sherlock Holmes, for example, benefited from it.

Well, there may have been no laws against opium use in Britain, but there was social stigma. Among the upper classes, there would have been a "cancel culture," and you'd become a fringe figure and an outcast in the eyes of society. And among the lower classes, there was neither access to nor the possibility of buying opium. They were killing themselves with alcohol, too... But in China, after the defeat in the Second Opium War, they were required to buy a specified amount of opium at the treasury's expense! And to maintain a specified number of opium dens! Anyone could get high there...

[alexoff]

Yes, they were addicted to opium in China before the second opium epidemic. The problem was that the officials there were addicted; for them, it was something like a smoke break with Cuban cigars, not injecting some sloppy drink in a back alley—an elite pastime.

[alexoff]

So, at first, these Manchus were a real force, crushing the Dzungars on the Chinese back. And then, over the course of a hundred years, they degenerated into prostitutes on the throne.

[Murzik]

Japan doesn't seem to have disappeared from the map either.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Murzik

Japan doesn't seem to have disappeared from the map either.

In the 80s, they were at their peak, second only to the US in GDP, with the potential to become the world's number one economy! But... the US brought them down so badly, starting with the yen revaluation and so on, that they're unlikely to have much of a future.
By the way... I was thinking about how household appliances in my house have changed. If in the 90s these were Sony and Panasonic, then they were replaced Samsung and LG...and now - Xiaomi and TCL Index?

[andrey martov]

A fleet of her enemies, armed to the teeth, will soon sail towards the wise monkey and fire a salvo of weapons at the monkey, leaving nothing left of the wise monkey.

[Voskolina]

Please list the "wise monkey's" enemies from your perspective.

[alexoff]

You'd better announce the list of the wise monkey's friends, otherwise there's a solid arc of American stooges from India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Korea and Japan.

[Voskolina]

I don't give a damn about a wise monkey. But as for Russia's list of friends... There are no friends. There are fellow travelers, freeloaders, and hangers-on. Who will sell out at the first opportunity.

[alexoff]

North Korea! And Iran. Actually, at the beginning of the Central Asian War, there were quite a few countries that directly offered support, like Malaysia, Syria, and Uganda, but ours politely declined, saying they were on their own. Generally speaking, when the leadership is constantly engaged in closed negotiations with the other side, you can't count on allies. The Russians will make peace with Trump, and we'll be left alone and get the brunt of it!

[Voskolina]

The Koreans and Persians are great. But not friends, just fellow travelers. Those whom our valiant kingdom-state already abandoned when sanctions were announced against them. And the rest of the Malaysians and Kazakhstanis are freeloaders and hangers-on. Except for the Belarusians.

[alexoff]

Do you know any true friends who would go through fire and water? Who aren't looking for any profit? Who aren't afraid of problems they don't force? Well, the Americans have no friends, but they somehow built a wall of enemies around China, and China is outraged! And then they'll start selling drones to anyone who wants them, probably to Taiwan too.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote from alexoff

Do you know any true friends who would go through fire and water? Who aren't looking for any personal gain? Who aren't afraid of problems they don't force? Well, the Americans have no friends, yet they've somehow built a wall of enemies around China, and China is outraged!

Perhaps, friendship isn't a term acceptable in international politics. I understand that the phantom pains of the Soviet era are still strong, but isn't it time to get rid of them?

[alexoff]

Is that my term? I was writing about allies, and the guy above said they were the wrong kind of allies, so I suggested giving examples of the right kind, from the Chamber of Weights and Measures.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Voskolina

Excluding Belarusians.

Why are you excluding the Belarusians? Batka himself is a real lover of the idea of ​​sitting on two chairs... And if someone like Tikhanovskaya comes after him... It'll be a second Ukraine! Only incorporating territories into our own statehood, for complete control (since we don't know how to use Western control methods), can guarantee loyalty! Friendship is not an option...

[Voskolina]

I don't argue. But I know - I'm fair-haired, and my daughter is fair-haired.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Voskolina

I don't argue. But I know - I'm fair-haired, and my daughter is fair-haired.

Congratulations! But it doesn't change anything, even if you're purple...

[Voskolina]

To each his own. Don't cough, and take the flag into your hands.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Voskolina

To each his own.

"Jedem das Seine" (Latin: "Suum Cuique") (c) inscription on the gates of Buchenwald.
Take a caliper and measure skulls...

[Rostov Papa]

Alexoff's list of Russia's friends. The list is short, unfortunately, just one: North Korea.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Voskolina

There are fellow travelers, freeloaders and hangers-on.

In general, the concept of "friends" in international politics seems strangely naive to me! What friends? Wolves all around – while the strong are feared and respected, if you weaken, they'll tear you apart without a trace. It's enough to recall the Boxer Rebellion in China, after which it was torn to pieces. And we got the biggest piece! Which, by the way, is still ours, unlike any Hong Kong or Macau... That's the kind of friendship we call it!!!

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: andrey martov

a fleet of her enemies armed to the teeth will sail in and fire a salvo from all guns

Well, this fleet sailed to the DPRK not so long ago... And how did it end? Now it's sailed to Iran... And somehow, nothing fatal for the country is in sight... And you're talking about China!

[alexputnik17]

While the Persians are taking up their mattresses, the Chinese shouldn't sit on the shore and wait for someone to pass by, but rather blockade Taiwan and actively negotiate with them. About unification. With those in power who are willing to talk.

[Essex62]

It won't work. Such people will be mowed down in no time.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: alexputnik17

and blockade Taiwan and conduct active negotiations with them.

What do we gain from this? What we benefit from is a blaze! And preferably in several places at once! So that China starts a NWO in Taiwan, North Korea in South Korea, and in the general chaos, the Arabs all over Israel! Then the "golden billion" won't have time for Ukraine! And what if, as the chaos grows, Turkey clashes with Greece over Cyprus and the Aegean islands, and Iraqi Kurds start pouring into Turkey from the southeast! Full-scale military action with the use of tactical nuclear weapons begins on the Pakistan-India border! A wave of destruction of European military contingents will rise in Africa. In Europe itself, right-wing radicals and migrants will start massacring each other... What a stir there will be! All our neighbors will come running back to us, tails between their legs!
P.S. Damn! America is on the sidelines again!

[Mapping]

Quote: Voskolina

Please list the "wise monkey's" enemies from your perspective.

USA, Japan, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, off the top of my head.

[Essex62]

There is no USA. And all the listed satellites are automatically eliminated.

[Voskolina]

SASHA and Japan... And the rest... will simply disappear. When things get hot.

[alexoff]

So why bother selling Chinese weapons to Cuba on credit? The Americans are deploying their strike weapons right under China's nose, and what, China's outraged? Well, they were outraged by the missile defense system in Korea, but the missile defense system is still in place.

[commbatant]

Quote from alexoff

So they would sell Chinese weapons to Cuba on credit.

Why? Cuba forgives everyone's debts. China isn't as rich as the USSR/Russia to write off tens of billions of US dollars in receivables...

[alexoff]

Quote: commbatant

The PRC is not as rich as the USSR/RF to be able to write off tens of billions of US dollars in receivables.

The Americans somehow managed to make their creditors learn to earn money so they'd get their money back. Meanwhile, China buys $200 billion worth of resources from Australia so the Australians can re-equip their fleet for AUKUS, which clearly states in black and white that it's an anti-Chinese alliance. But it's a profit, and Cuba isn't a profit, and missiles under the US's nose are a loss.

[Butte Carl]

Ich kenne mindesten einen Ukro-Nazi der jetzt vor Wut in die Tischkante beissen wird. Der Drogen-süchtige Schwachkopf in Kiew, der den Präsidenten spielen darf, bekommt „Hackenkreuze in die Augen“ warum Taiwan Luftabwehrsysteme erhält und das Ukro-Nazi-Reich nicht. Das macht es den guten russischen Jungs in Uniform etwas einfacher ihre Arbeit zu erledigen und gleichzeitig ist das ein schöner Beweis dafür, dass man den „Bleichgesichtern aus Übersee“ niemals trauen kann. Die Feinde der USA leben gefährlich, aber die Freunde der USA, die sind schon tot!

[noWAR]

What's stopping China from supplying Cuba with sufficient air and missile defense systems? Is it simply cowardice and the way its "communist" ideology of building a society is tied to the fusion of national capital with theirs, the grandee of this world order, and the fear of losing their national capitalist influence worldwide?

[TTT999]

This is truly stupid, and the Cubans don't want it, nor does the rest of South America. There's no hope for a direct confrontation. How many American soldiers have you killed in South America over the last 100 years? How many coups have the United States instigated?

Cuba was a trap deliberately set by the United States for the Soviet Union. Do you think Cuba really wants communism?

[TTT999]

This is really stupid, and the Cubans don't need weapons either. This is true even for all of South America, and there is no hope for a direct confrontation.

[opuonmed]

McCaul stressed that US policy on arms sales to Taiwan is "independent of US-China relations."

Translation: what the US benefits from, the US will do! And they didn't give a damn about China, the paper tiger.

[Rockerman]

The Chinese Overton window for Taiwan is melting before their eyes. The Chinese have adopted a large-scale modernization program for their naval forces. Therefore, if the Chinese are planning their own strategic military operation, they have a year or two left.

[Essex62]

Why are the turncoats so upset? Hechemon has its sights set on Taiwan. Are they drawing red lines too? Just go ahead and don't let those weapons get there. It's all talk, not hard work.

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

China has leverage – Iran. They could have officially declared their support for it. But the "cunning monkey traders" want to sit on thousands of chairs (branches)...

[mad-max78]

Quote: DIM (a)

This news comes amid ongoing speculation that the US has run out of weapons...

The fact that the US is running low on them only makes these weapons more expensive and more desirable to those who need them. Anyone can sell weapons, but no other country can sell them for the high price and in the order the US needs. So far, we haven't seen such queues or fights for Russian or Chinese weapons.

[commbatant]

Quote from: mad-max78

Such queues and fights have not yet been observed with Russian or Chinese weapons.

...buying Russian weapons can land you under US sanctions. China copies US weapons, so why would normal countries be subject to sanctions or buy counterfeit ones?

[Lynx2000]

Quote: DIM (a)

This news comes amid ongoing speculation that the US has run out of weapons...

Money in the morning, in the evening... a year later, Patriot systems and NASAMS batteries.

[alexputnik17]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

P.S. Damn! America is on the sidelines again!

America is hanging around in Iran with its bases among the Arabs.

[APASUS]

China is capable of producing so many Geranium-Shahid missiles that no air defense system in the world could handle them. But missiles are the end product.

[mad-max78]

Quote: commbatant

Quote from: mad-max78

Such queues and fights have not yet been observed with Russian or Chinese weapons.

...buying Russian weapons can land you under US sanctions. China copies US weapons, so why would normal countries be subject to sanctions or buy counterfeit ones?

If everything is as you say and everyone only wants the original, then please tell me why the Kalashnikov assault rifle wasn't bought only from the USSR and Russia, and why its copies were bought all over the world?
Or is it another?