The Indian Defense Ministry has announced that it is abandoning the purchase of Russian Su-57 fighter jets.

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The Indian Defense Ministry has announced that it is abandoning the purchase of Russian Su-57 fighter jets.

India has made its final decision on the acquisition of the Su-57. This decision is to abandon the purchase of the Russian fifth-generation aircraft, the Su-57E version, which was offered to New Delhi by Russia.

According to Defense Security Asia, citing Indian Defense Secretary Rajesh Kumar Singh, New Delhi is not considering purchasing Sukhoi aircraft, including the aforementioned Su-57Es.



He added that India is actively working on upgrading the existing Su-30MKIs, which are produced under Russian license, calling this aircraft one of the most successful programs of the Indian military. aviation.

Russia has recently been actively promoting the Su-57 in the Indian market, offering not only sales but also localized production at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, along with technology transfer. In December 2025, during a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the idea of ​​jointly producing up to 40 aircraft was discussed. However, these proposals were rejected.

Experts attribute the refusal to India's negative experience with the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) joint program, which the country withdrew from in 2018. At the time, New Delhi cited complaints about the Su-57's performance, specifically its failure to meet stealth requirements. However, the Indian military has yet to answer the question of what exactly it finds unsatisfactory about the Su-57's stealth.

Instead of purchasing fifth-generation aircraft from abroad, India plans to implement its own program, the AMCA. This is the first fully Indian-designed fifth-generation fighter, designed to fill the gap between the light Tejas and heavy fighters.

The current status of the program is highly controversial. The AMCA program received approval from the Cabinet Committee on Security in March 2024 with a budget of approximately $1,56 billion. In May 2026, the Ministry of Defense issued a request for proposals to three private consortiums—Tata Advanced Systems, Larsen & Toubro-BEL, and Bharat Forge-BEML—to develop five prototypes.

According to the plan, the first AMCA prototype will be unveiled in 2027, with the first flight expected in 2028–2029, certification by 2032, and service acceptance no earlier than 2034–2035. The Indian Air Force plans to form seven AMCA squadrons. Construction of an integration and flight testing facility has already begun in Andhra Pradesh.

Many experts in India itself note that by 2035 these aircraft will be obsolete, and other countries will have at least sixth-generation aircraft.

The AMCA is a twin-engine, single-seat, multirole stealth fighter weighing approximately 25 tons. Its maximum speed is 2600 km/h, its range is up to 3240 km, its service ceiling is 20,000 meters, its combat load is up to 1500 kg in internal compartments and up to 5500–6500 kg on external hardpoints, and its armament includes missiles Astra and guided aerial bombs. Engines: The initial AMCA Mk1 version will be equipped with American GE F414 engines, while the future Mk2 will be equipped with a more powerful 120 kN engine, jointly developed with France's Safran.

The aircraft will be equipped with an active phased array radar, an electronic warfare system, stealth technologies (including internal weapons bays and radar-absorbing coatings), and an artificial intelligence system for sensor synthesis. Its declared radar cross section (RCS) is lower than that of the Chinese J-20.

The phasing out of the Su-57 means India will rely on upgrading its existing fighter fleet until the AMCA is implemented, leaving the country without a fifth-generation fighter until at least the middle of the next decade.
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  1. + 33
    4 August 2026 21: 13
    A country with an ancient history and such infantile, feminine behavior on serious issues... Facepalm belay
    1. + 37
      4 August 2026 21: 40
      Ancient history does not mean ancient wisdom...
      1. + 11
        5 August 2026 00: 11
        Hindus regarding the Aryans: "The law is not written for fools, if it is written, it is not read, if it is read, it is not understood, if it is understood, then - NOT SO.
      2. + 13
        5 August 2026 00: 57
        Ancient history does not mean ancient wisdom...

        All the wisdom went into songs and dances for the movies
        1. +1
          5 August 2026 12: 52
          We monetized our story )))
      3. + 17
        5 August 2026 12: 49
        I don't think the Indians' refusal to purchase the Su-57 upset China at all. Frankly, I'm not all that upset myself. The Indians are just too greedy, especially in the context of their "gun" contracts with Russia. If they buy anything, it's essentially at the seller's breakeven point. That is, with a practically negligible profit margin for the seller...

        Well, it's probably time to stop "pampering" them. This isn't the late 90s or early 2000s. They want to "tinker" with it themselves? Good luck to them... Let them waste their time...

        The main thing is, if we do end up making a move on Russia, we can take it from them so that we don't end up in zero, like before...
        1. +4
          5 August 2026 17: 46
          Personally, I have a bit of a misunderstanding. Given the current geopolitical situation and the Central Military District, how can we possibly be so happy with our aviation? Are we even willing to supply anyone with anything? Especially with a meager profit margin, and it's not guaranteed to be for rupees. At least shoot down missiles and drones, since our air defenses can't handle it. As far as I remember, compared to NATO, we're significantly behind in aircraft numbers.
          1. +2
            5 August 2026 18: 39
            In fact, not a single stealth aircraft, neither ours nor the American, can operate in a zone of strong air defense countermeasures. One way or another, they're seen. The overall question now is the practicality of manned aircraft. Just attach a motor to a bomb and it flies. And there's no need to invest billions in launch vehicles and millions in pilot training.
            1. +2
              5 August 2026 22: 27
              Quote: Vlad2012
              In fact, not a single "invisible" aircraft, neither ours nor the American one, can operate in a zone of strong air defense counteraction.

              If there's a constellation of SAR satellites with AESA, a sufficient number of modern AWACS, or heavy-duty reconnaissance UAVs, then it's possible to see deep into the entire air defense system and coordinate low-SAR aircraft and weapons carriers at a safe distance from the radars. Furthermore, it's possible to locate all long-range air defense radars in a specific area. And then launch aircraft loaded with FABs there, for example, to penetrate certain sections of the front. They operated in roughly the same way in Iran, and F-35s could fly deep into the country. There's just a different problem: there are no ground forces to consolidate the bombing results, and the theater of operations is complex, rocky, and hilly almost everywhere. They'll fly in, drop bombs, and after a while, Iran will roll out the surviving radars and SAMs, either manufactured or acquired from China, from its cliffs, making Trump's entire military campaign against Iran a scam without results.
            2. +2
              6 August 2026 13: 26
              "The question now is generally about the feasibility of manned aviation."
              ************************************************** ****
              I believe that such "questions" in some "advanced" minds are not a sign of great intelligence...

              You see, when the so-called "great" war leads to ALL wireless remote monitoring, communication, and control systems VERY QUICKLY (and it will happen VERY QUICKLY) collapsing, a quick and clear answer to this question will present itself. But for some, it will be very late and unexpected...

              And oh, how useful they would be with a "crewed" tank (with a trained crew), and a manned aircraft (with a trained crew), and a car (with a live driver, not an "autopilot"), and a slide rule (by the way, I have a compact version with me) and many other things where a trained person is needed...

              So, let's reserve the "full autonomy" option only for situations where retaliation is activated (the so-called "Dead Hand"). After that, no one will need anything for a long time...
          2. 0
            6 August 2026 15: 09
            There was talk of creating a joint venture to produce the Su-57E in India. This included bringing Western technology to our aircraft project (which no one would provide us without the Indians). So, who knows who's unlucky...
        2. SAG
          +1
          6 August 2026 18: 04
          There is an idea that not a single serious issue can be resolved without "a dance and a song"
          Then you have to accept it and dance according to the rule:
          One refusal means one 5% price increase, plus a one-year wait. This kind of dance eventually becomes clear even to the most obtuse and cunning.
      4. +1
        5 August 2026 12: 50
        That's right! They're showing off...
        So they will become a colony again when the time comes...
      5. +8
        5 August 2026 13: 22
        Quote: Nexcom
        Ancient history does not mean ancient wisdom...

        If they had any brains, they wouldn't have punched Krishna in the face, much less dealt with nuclear weapons. They wasted all the vimanas and switched to elephants.
        With the Su-57, you just have to keep quiet and wait—the gypsies won't be able to stand it and will start disco dancing first. Like children, honestly...
      6. +3
        5 August 2026 13: 50
        Quote: Nexcom
        Ancient history does not mean ancient wisdom...
        Wisdom in relation to Hindus means there is no need to rush.
        Quote: Full interview with Indian Defence Secretary Rajesh Kumar Singh.
        When asked about the possibility of purchasing a new Sukhoi family aircraft outside the MRFA program (a tender for the purchase of 114 multirole fighters of the 4+ generation, with the Rafale, Eurofighter, and others among the contenders), he replied:
        "No, we have not thought about that, if you're asking about the new version. But we are actively looking at upgrading the existing Sukhois which we have been producing under license from the Russians."
        "No, we're not considering that, if you're asking about a new version. We're actively modernizing existing Sukhoi aircraft, which we produce under Russian license."
        The official then added:
        "It's a success story. It's a very potent platform with the induction of the BrahMos missiles on it and we are hoping to upgrade and improve it further."
        "This is a success story. This is a very powerful platform after the integration of the BrahMos missiles, and we expect to continue its modernization and further improvement."
        Singh never mentions the name "Su-57." The media's conclusion that this particular aircraft was being abandoned was based on the context of the journalist's question, not a direct quote from the Indian official.
        Meanwhile, back in April, HAL CEO D.K. Sunil stated that a Russian commission had already inspected the company's production facilities, and that approximately 50% of the existing infrastructure was suitable for Su-57 production. HAL was awaiting a commercial proposal from the Russian side for establishing production in India. There have been no official statements since then regarding the termination of these negotiations.
        Indeed, it's difficult to say that negotiations on the Su-57E for India are proceeding quickly and successfully—but the customer there always takes a long time to make decisions, a characteristic of the market. Furthermore, while they're showing interest in various projects, they're actively negotiating for more favorable terms, threatening competition.
    2. + 36
      4 August 2026 21: 40
      To avoid being noticed, we could offer the Indians a shipment of elephants; that would probably suit them. In fact, Russia should adopt a tougher policy toward India. To achieve this, we could cultivate a bit of friendship with Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and China. They're at odds with the Indians, and they're not our allies either, as they're profiting off our oil.
      1. +4
        5 August 2026 03: 40
        a batch of inconspicuous elephants)))
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 10: 19
          "Buy an elephant"
      2. 0
        5 August 2026 22: 23
        That's right! One of the few buyers of our weapons and willing to buy our oil and supply gasoline—better yet! It's not enough that we've lost all our allies; we need to be even tougher on our friendly neutrals, otherwise they won't buy anything from us?!
        1. +1
          6 August 2026 18: 54
          But Indians get all these benefits for their worthless papers. What are we supposed to do with this waste paper? Keep warm in the winter? What can India offer us for its candy wrappers?
    3. + 29
      4 August 2026 21: 46
      But the Indians will have the most invisible fifth-generation aircraft in the world! So invisible that they won't even see them!
      1. +8
        4 August 2026 21: 47
        It seems they have a similar situation with tanks - everyone is making their own super-tank, but usually it can't even make it to the parade.
        1. +1
          5 August 2026 09: 46
          Quote: Alex F._2
          They have a similar situation with tanks.

          Things didn't work out very well for us with Armata either. request

          Well, in general, IMHO, the Indians' decision was greatly influenced by the SVO in Ukraine.
          If our Aerospace Forces confidently destroyed the Ukrainian Nazis' air defenses, including using stealth technology, then selling the aircraft for export would be easier, IMHO. Yes
          1. +2
            5 August 2026 10: 20
            Armata is a victim of high technology; the more of it there is, the more complex and unreliable it becomes.
            However, the best tanks in India are of our own production.
            1. 0
              5 August 2026 10: 31
              Quote: Alex F._2
              Armata - a victim of high technology

              The Indians also got screwed over the same thing. They wanted to shoehorn the even newer, domestically produced DATRAN 1500 diesel engine, with excellent performance and an automatic transmission, onto the new Arjun.

              But, as in the case of the Armata, the chassis problems could not be completely resolved. request
      2. +3
        4 August 2026 22: 11
        Quote: the most important
        But the Indians will have the most invisible fifth-generation aircraft in the world! So invisible that they won't even see them!

        It's very possible, "The declared parameter of the effective scattering surface (ESR) is lower than that of the Chinese J-20." - the Indians have no idea, but they know what the ESR will be. I'm confused, because the invisibility of the Pakfa and the Penguin is ensured by slightly different technologies.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 10: 11
          But the Chinese buy packs without any fuss. Yes
      3. +6
        4 August 2026 22: 32
        The main thing is not to forget to paint a red dot on the pilot's cabin, put a lot of bracelets on the landing gear, the wingtips, and other protruding elements, and teach him smooth movements to the appropriate music. lol
        1. +7
          5 August 2026 00: 25
          Quote: pudelartemon
          Don't forget to draw a red dot on the cabin

          I'm not at all surprised that it turned out this way.
          There is no faith in Hindus.
    4. +9
      4 August 2026 22: 08
      Quote: Mikhado
      A country with an ancient history and such infantile, feminine behavior on serious issues... Facepalm belay

      Is this like the S-400 with the Turks? It's all political moves.
    5. +3
      4 August 2026 22: 24
      Quote: Mikhado
      A country with an ancient history and such infantile, feminine behavior on serious issues... Facepalm belay

      What can you expect from them - dancers, in a word.
      Did they think that they would be given equipment and technologies for their dancing?
    6. +9
      4 August 2026 22: 57
      . behavior in serious matters...


      Money decides. They want it brought in.
      Flag in hand, drum around neck. Let them dance on.
    7. + 18
      4 August 2026 23: 30
      That's a good thing. I don't understand why anyone would sell their latest know-how. They have the Su-35, or the export Su-75, so they're just selling them. Selling the Su-57 to India is about the same as selling the S-400 to Turkey. The Indians constantly conduct joint exercises with NATO countries and share various military information.
      1. + 12
        5 August 2026 02: 46
        Quote: Graz
        that's good

        I think that's excellent! During the ongoing Joint Military Operation and the likely prospect of further clashes with NATO, loading the only aircraft factory in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, which produces Su-57s, with Indian orders... That's either stupid or treasonous! Let them produce Su-57s for the Russian Aerospace Forces!
        1. +9
          5 August 2026 02: 58
          And in the country of profiteers, profit comes first. And they don't believe in war with NATO. They'll come to an agreement with their partners, they'll definitely come to an agreement. And they'll be profiteering from Lisbon to Vladikavkaz. drinks
        2. -4
          5 August 2026 06: 22
          Let him produce Su-57 for the Russian Aerospace Forces!

          You should tell that to the Americans, who sell their cutting-edge F-35s without much concern about secrets leaking. And finance their fleet through this trade. Every country dreams of having a wealthy foreign buyer. Another issue is that not every manufacturer can arrange warranty service for their equipment abroad, and this is our biggest sore spot, unfortunately... And what could possibly be particularly secretive for the Americans in our Su-57E, which was made 20 years later? We're the ones who successfully steal similar technologies from the West. request Only a friend/foe identification system, which will naturally be individual for each country and includes self-destruction in the event of an aircraft crash or an attempt to open it.
          Does the Russian Aerospace Forces have the funds to purchase a larger number of Su-57s? Have you considered that?
          1. +6
            5 August 2026 07: 46
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            You would say that

            I'd say so if domestic aircraft manufacturing capabilities were like Lockheed Martin's. But while Komsomolsk-on-Amur is the only one doing it, I'd prefer it to work for the Aerospace Forces...
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            And what could be particularly secret for the Americans in our

            Did I write something secret somewhere? Or are you making it up and then refuting it yourself?
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            Does the Russian Aerospace Forces have the money to purchase a multiple number of Su-57s?

            Russia has enough resources to construction the required number of aircraft, especially on the eve of war! If only there was a will...
            1. +1
              6 August 2026 08: 20
              So maybe, to increase the capacity of the KPA plant, they need to look for wealthy buyers? I, too, understand perfectly well the tension between my own needs and the possibility of exporting. But I don't think I understand this any better than those appointed to manage these processes and make the choice. Once I get a second life, study to become the Director of the KPA, or better yet, President of the Russian Federation, I'll delve into and understand the economics of production and perhaps abandon the sale of the Su-57E to India... For now, I'm as dumb as a jackass on this matter. fellow But if you don't feel like the same idiot, then take the flag and go run for president. lol laughing
              And about secrecy, you're really on first-name terms. And the colleague above you, Graz
        3. +3
          5 August 2026 10: 03
          Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
          I think that's excellent! During the ongoing Joint Military Operation and the likely prospect of further clashes with NATO, loading the only aircraft factory in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, which produces Su-57s, with Indian orders... That's either stupid or treasonous! Let them produce Su-57s for the Russian Aerospace Forces!
          Here I absolutely completely agree with you and support you!! good
    8. +6
      5 August 2026 01: 21
      Expected information. The Indian roulette wheel spins with the hope of better conditions, but more often than not, some crap comes up. Especially since their aviation industry is now dominated by a sect of "witnesses to French kickbacks."
    9. +2
      5 August 2026 08: 42
      Unfortunately, centuries of India's status as a British colony have completely emasculated their reason, common sense, and sense of personal dignity. They still feel like slaves to the metropolis and grovel before it wherever and whenever they can, instead of proudly straightening their shoulders and saying a firm "no."
    10. +3
      5 August 2026 09: 59
      Quote: Mikhado
      A country with an ancient history and such infantile, feminine behavior on serious issues... Facepalm
      Well, it's simply wonderful that they refused!! Now Russia is not bound by contractual obligations and will avoid some of our aircraft-building expertise falling into the hands of the Roma. Otherwise, the Roma would have obtained our modern technology and then arranged access and tours for MI6 and CIA representatives, just like they did with the Chakra submarine they leased...
      This is something to rejoice about, not grieve about!!
      May God save us from the Judases in good time... Despite the efforts of the rulers... winked
    11. 0
      5 August 2026 11: 03
      They just didn't bring enough. This is always the case with them. I'm not even surprised.
    12. 0
      5 August 2026 11: 50
      Dances, dances, nothing but dances, about the paid stars and stripes refusal, they need a conflict between India and China, so the Americans got busy, weakening China with a conflict between India and China, the Americans are in the lead again
    13. 0
      5 August 2026 14: 45
      They made their own tank, their own rifle, of course, their own self-propelled guns, and they had a real problem with submarines, but now airplanes? How come they haven't started building their own helicopters yet?
    14. +1
      5 August 2026 17: 01
      This is one of the elements of bargaining, hoping to lower the price. All our negotiations with Indians regarding the purchase and sale of equipment follow a similar scenario.
    15. 0
      6 August 2026 19: 16
      Ancient history is depicted there. Not older than our era.
  2. + 10
    4 August 2026 21: 16
    Oh! How could we do without dancing with tambourines? Now they'll demand cheaper technology, and when they're done, they'll dance a disco, then celebrate with a bang in Krishna's face...
    1. +6
      4 August 2026 21: 41
      ...Hindus are simply accustomed to turning any process into a Kama Sutra with songs and dances... mentality, sir.
      1. +3
        4 August 2026 21: 48
        Watch the Hindu parade - no one could show such perversion even in a comedy club! ))
        1. + 14
          4 August 2026 21: 50
          Why a parade??? Look at how they demonstrated the howitzer - a meme-worthy video. Everyone knows. There won't be any further questions, really.
          1. +2
            4 August 2026 22: 39
            Quote: Nexcom
            Look how they demonstrated the howitzer.

            I immediately remembered the old army joke about joint exercises between GDR and Soviet artillerymen.
  3. +7
    4 August 2026 21: 18
    Didn't the Indians get a kickback from Russia? Or were they not satisfied with the size of the kickback? Modi is a real jerk, he's always concerned about India. laughing
    1. +2
      4 August 2026 22: 14
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Didn't the Indians get a kickback from Russia? Or were they not satisfied with the size of the kickback? Modi is a real jerk, he's always concerned about India. laughing

      That goes without saying
      1. +9
        4 August 2026 23: 49
        Why would they waste money on weapons? They've never achieved independence through arms in history. They were and remain slaves. Weapons are for masquerades (a bunch of islander Englishmen exploited them for centuries).
        1. +2
          5 August 2026 00: 23
          Quote: th.kuzmichev
          They have never in history achieved independence by force of arms. They were and remain slaves.

          during British colonial rule Hindus died in the hundreds of millionsWe probably need weapons, and good weapons, to prevent something like this from happening again. And the Indians' refusal to buy the Su-57E isn't a refusal of weapons; they're still buying the S-400.
        2. +1
          5 August 2026 03: 02
          Quote: th.kuzmichev
          (a bunch of English islanders exploited them as they wanted for centuries)

          Who are they? All sorts of maharajas and rajas lived quite happily. Meanwhile, the British proletarians, compatriots of the exploiters, were like this:
  4. + 22
    4 August 2026 21: 19
    It's difficult to comment on the actions of the Indians. They are very difficult negotiators.
    But if they buy engines from the USA and France, there will be a ton of repair difficulties.
    The latest clash with Pakistan taught them nothing. Only Russian weapons were combat-ready.
    God be their judge.
    1. +5
      4 August 2026 22: 31
      Quote: B-15
      They have learned nothing from the latest clash with Pakistan.

      Well, don't say that, our S-400 air defense systems really pleased them, they ordered more:
      Moscow. March 27, 2026 INTERFAX.RU - The Indian Ministry of Defense's Defense Acquisition Council on Friday voted in favor of purchasing five more S-400 air defense missile system regiments from Russia for the Indian Air Force, The Times of India reports.

      The newspaper recalls that India used the S-400 during Operation Sindoor to repel Pakistani attacks; these air defense systems were able to shoot down a Pakistani aircraft from a distance of 300 km, setting a record.

      It was officially reported that in early October 2018, on the sidelines of high-level Russian-Indian negotiations, a contract was signed for the supply of five S-400 regiment-level systems to India. The Times of India notes that India has received three S-400 regiment-level systems and expects two more in 2026.

      And more information:
      New Delhi also decided to purchase 280 short- and long-range missiles for the S-400.
      Hindustan Times notes that Indian authorities are considering establishing a private company to service and repair Russian systems. New Delhi is also hoping for technology transfer from Russia.

      To protect Triumphs from drones, India plans to purchase at least 12 Pantsir air defense missile and gun systems from Russia. Another 40 will be manufactured domestically under the "Made in India" program.

      https://www1.ru/news/2026/04/28/hindustan-times-indiia-v-mae-poluchit-chetvertyi-iz-piati-zakazannykh-polkovykh-komplektov-s-400.html?ysclid=msf1mtexv4192041244

      As for the SU-57, I'm not sure that this is their final and irrevocable decision. I could be wrong, but they could still change their minds - that's what they do.
      1. +1
        5 August 2026 11: 09
        Thanks for the detailed comment.
        The question about the S-400 downing – is it a fact, the range, and the type of target confirmed, or is it just rumors?
        Regarding the Su-57E, they might want more favorable terms. Even more favorable.
        1. +3
          5 August 2026 11: 30
          Quote: Arigin
          The question about the S-400 downing – is it a fact, the range, and the type of target confirmed, or is it just rumors?

          I haven't seen any detailed data, but the fact that the planes were shot down has been mentioned several times in the Indian press. In fact, there was a report from the Indian Air Force Command about six aircraft shot down. It's not for nothing that they rushed to purchase additional S-400s; they've seen their effectiveness in action.
          Indian Air Force Chief Amar Preet Singh announced that the Indian Air Force successfully shot down five Pakistani fighter jets and one AEW&C (Airborne Warning and Control) aircraft during Operation Sindoor. Speaking at a commemorative lecture in Bangalore, Singh officially confirmed for the first time the extent of the damage inflicted on Pakistani aircraft during the cross-border counterterrorism operation.
          Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief Amar Preet Singh said on Saturday that the force shot down five Pakistani aircraft and one airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft during Operation Sindoor.

          https://inosmi.ru/20250813/kompleks-274182484.html

          Quote: Arigin
          Regarding the Su-57E, they might want more favorable terms. Even more favorable.

          It is a very real option.
          1. +1
            5 August 2026 15: 29
            I read Wikipedia.

            As a result of the night air battle (May 6-7, 2025), the Indians lost 5 aircraft (fighters?), Pakistan's losses are unknown, but even if there were any, they fell on their own territory.

            The Indians have no evidence; it is entirely possible that the 6 downed aircraft is a lie to save their reputation and prevent publicity regarding the real state of affairs in the army.
            1. +1
              5 August 2026 16: 00
              Quote: Arigin
              The Indians have no evidence,

              The Pakistanis also lack definitive evidence, and they're silent about themselves (even in Wikipedia). Both sides launched missiles from their own territory during aerial combat, never into the other's. Naturally, if they were shot down, they fell there too. It's difficult to know all the details when each side declares victory and denies (or downplays) losses.
              The dogfight between Pakistani and Indian fighter jets, in which Pakistani officials say five Indian jets were shot down, was one of the "largest and longest in recent aviation history," a senior Pakistani security source told CNN.
              According to the source, who specified that the missile attacks took place at a distance of sometimes more than 160 kilometers (100 miles), a total of 125 fighter jets fought in the sky for more than an hour, with neither side leaving its airspace..

              Neither side was willing to send their pilots across the border following a much smaller air battle in 2019. An Indian Air Force pilot was shot down in Pakistani territory, paraded through the streets, and shown on television before being returned to India. He said neither side wanted such a humiliation this time.

              https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attack-kashmir-tourists-intl-hnk#cmaehu00l00003b6qe1qvr6z7
    2. -1
      5 August 2026 09: 26
      Apparently, the actions of our aviation, which is afraid to even show itself in the Ukrainian skies, did not impress the Indians and influenced their decision.
  5. + 15
    4 August 2026 21: 20
    Well, good riddance to them! Let them build their own airplane. Without Su-57 exports to India, more of the aircraft will go to our troops. Every cloud has a silver lining.
    1. +4
      4 August 2026 21: 34
      ..the Gypsies have already slapped together a lot of stuff - a national assault rifle, an SMG, a killer tank, and everything in between.... If there's one thing they're really good at, it's singing and dancing. But with equipment, not so much. Their "zoo" of weapons is the butt of the local supply chain. Although, if they twist arms like that on contracts, I'm sure everyone has already realized that it's easier for the Indians to "kick back" than to push through a contract. Gypsies... unless you put gold in their hands, nothing will happen.

      I suspect that the gypsies wanted not only to buy our Su, but also to get all the technology and the first 100 planes for free...
      1. +6
        4 August 2026 22: 44
        Quote: Nexcom
        I suspect that the gypsies wanted not only to buy our Su, but also to get all the technology and the first 100 aircraft for free.

        I suspect that the Indians may well return to the Su-57 project in the future—they'll try their project, see what happens, and if it doesn't go well, there's a good chance they'll restart the largely agreed-upon project. But time will be lost, and the conditions could change.

        Greetings, Dmitry! hi
        1. +4
          5 August 2026 04: 36
          Hello, Alexander hi

          I once had to do some work with the Indians (a long time ago). And yet, they never change—they keep changing the agreements tenfold—sometimes they need it, sometimes they don't, sometimes they agree, sometimes they disagree. It's very difficult to do business with them. Very. They're a very specific crowd. And my sarcasm toward them isn't just a joke.
          1. +1
            5 August 2026 05: 54
            Last night they really hit Kyiv with ballistic missiles. I just looked at the report and a lot of things are burning, the city is covered in smoke. They hit Dnipropetrovsk pretty hard. Zelensky asked for it, and civilian targets were hit, too.
            1. +2
              5 August 2026 08: 35
              ...a lot of things are burning, the city is in smoke. There was quite a bit of fire in Dnipropetrovsk.

              this is wonderful. good
    2. +4
      4 August 2026 23: 02
      Quote: Alexey Severyanin
      into their hands! Let them build their own airplane
      They have been making their Tejas for more than three decades now and it’s not that great.
      It's all very simple, as the bourgeoisie writes: "They're nervous about deepening cooperation with the Americans. They know how to impose their vision. Therefore, they propose developing the Su-30M to the level of the Super Flanker using Indian technology; the Tejas..."
      Stock up on popcorn, or just carrots, to munch on and watch the process, it will be a long one...
    3. 0
      5 August 2026 14: 42
      More vehicles will go to our troops

      Or maybe it won't work. The Russian Air Force only acquired the Su-30SM after the contract for the Su-30MKI was signed with India. Before that, only the standard Su-30 was in service, and even those were few and far between.
  6. +6
    4 August 2026 21: 22
    They decided not to purchase the Su-57 because Pakistan does not have comparable aircraft and the Su-30 is sufficient for them.
    But 40 won't be enough against China.
    1. +4
      4 August 2026 21: 44
      ...let them modernize the war elephants - they will definitely succeed.
      1. +5
        4 August 2026 21: 49
        as they say now - "eco-friendly!" ("ugh!" three times!)
        1. +5
          4 August 2026 21: 53
          Not exactly - war elephants poop a lot when stressed. lol
          Honestly!
          1. +3
            5 August 2026 05: 09
            Quote: Nexcom
            War elephants poop a lot when stressed.
            They will attack with their trunk backwards.
    2. +2
      5 August 2026 06: 38
      The future of manned combat aviation is rather uncertain, so there's a certain amount of rationality in the "dancers." Modernizing the Su-30 is certainly an option! Time will tell where military science and practice lead.
      1. +3
        5 August 2026 08: 21
        That's for sure. Now a bunch of clowns will start howling, like, "It didn't hurt to sell to them! Let them fight with elephants! Etc." – as if the problem isn't us, but the buyer, who doesn't know his own happiness! But perhaps the Indians, for some reason, believe, for example, that a super-expensive wonder weapon doesn't provide any decisive advantage in a large-scale conflict. So, they certainly have their own rational reasons. Especially since India is a very long-standing and friendly partner in purchasing our equipment, and we definitely have an advantage in this market compared to other countries.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 08: 37
          Quote: moscowp
          But perhaps, for some reason, the Indians believe, for example, that a super-expensive wonder weapon does not provide any decisive advantage in a situation of large-scale conflict.
          I wrote above: while Pakistan doesn’t have it, it’s not really necessary, and they will only be able to compete with China with the 7th generation.
          Well, and he ate up the development budget - that's sacred!
        2. 0
          5 August 2026 22: 41
          Quote: moscowp
          For some reason, Indians believe, for example, that a super-expensive wonder weapon does not provide any decisive advantage in a large-scale conflict



          Quote: moscowp
          Moreover, India is a very long-standing and friendly partner in the purchase of our equipment, and we definitely have an advantage in this market compared to other countries.

          I read all the way up to your comment. There were a lot of opinions, but I still didn't see any mention of the Indians ordering another 120 Rafales, which seems to indicate they've finally turned their attention to the West in terms of their Air Force. There was also some talk about the F-35.
  7. +9
    4 August 2026 21: 28
    I'd like to see a picture of someone offering Stalin the sale of a dozen S-400 regiments and several dozen modern fighter jets abroad in 1944...
    1. + 14
      4 August 2026 21: 39
      During Joseph Vissarionovich's time, the S400 didn't exist. Well, I suppose if someone had offered him the BM13, say, to the British or the Americans, that guy wouldn't have even left Stalin's office—he'd have been arrested and quickly killed in the courtyard.
      1. +9
        4 August 2026 21: 58
        Yes, as they say, what difference does it make, even a long-range slingshot, but overseas?! During the war?!!! When did you start being able to penetrate as far as Siberia?! Abramovich should have been the first to be slammed into the parapet of the Bosphorus Bridge and tossed into the strait, and maybe peace would have come by now...
        1. +6
          4 August 2026 22: 01
          ...well, it would be better to just stick to the Abramovichs and not limit ourselves to that...
      2. +2
        4 August 2026 22: 09
        In 1943, the T-34 was sent to the USA.
        1. +2
          4 August 2026 22: 13
          ...and not only that—the KV with a small turret, too. The Americans were completely stunned—their artillery couldn't penetrate a KV head-on from a reasonable distance. Only if it hit the side or really, really close.

          And what about T34 - what's there to hide?
  8. +8
    4 August 2026 21: 33
    Actually, older people remember that India abandoned this car about 15 years ago.
    After that, all sorts of "hooray-correspondents" tried to squeeze material out of... (ellipsis), churning out articles about things that simply didn't exist. And these articles regularly pop up in the tabloids every two or three years before the next air show in some Asian-African country in the third or even fourth world.
    1. +1
      4 August 2026 22: 49
      Finally, at least one adequate comment 👍
      They really did quit a long time ago, and I even remember it because our guys were really dragging their feet on testing. They started their own, but the result was something half-French and, as far as I remember, poorly flying.
      1. 0
        5 August 2026 22: 51
        Quote: Vadim S
        but in the end it turned out to be something half-French and poorly flying, as far as I remember

        As a result, they signed a contract for the supply and partial localization of production of 120 Rafales.
  9. -3
    4 August 2026 21: 34
    Quote: Alexey Severyanin
    Well, good riddance to them! Let them build their own airplane. Without Su-57 exports to India, more of the aircraft will go to our troops. Every cloud has a silver lining.

    They've been coming for a long time. How much has arrived?
    1. -4
      4 August 2026 21: 45
      ...the Indian war elephant moves slowly, but no one can resist it! (c) Indian wisdom lol
  10. +2
    4 August 2026 21: 38
    So, nothing new... They'll start sawing things up themselves again, something or other, and then they'll buy it here, and they'll end up with a hodgepodge...
  11. BAI
    -1
    4 August 2026 21: 39
    Instead of purchasing fifth-generation aircraft from abroad, India plans to implement its own program, the AMCA. This is the first fully Indian-designed fifth-generation fighter, designed to fill the gap between the light Tejas and heavy fighters.

    Absolutely the right decision.
    How everyone would scream here if Russia decided not to develop its defense capabilities, but to depend on foreigners.
    Civilian aircraft have already received the full program
    1. BAI
      0
      4 August 2026 21: 46
      Small keyboard.
      His
      Defense capability
      Foreigners
      By plane
    2. +3
      5 August 2026 00: 09
      A homegrown aircraft means, first and foremost, a homegrown engine, which the Indians don't have and don't expect to have, so they're good to go, but they won't see their own aircraft. Algeria is very interested in the 57M; what a customer they are, the first export Drakes went to Algeria, so like the Su-27/30, the Su-57 will find its place in the export market.
      1. +4
        5 August 2026 07: 06
        "Algeria is very interested in the 57th. Now that's a customer, and the first export Drakes went to Algeria."
        There was a publication on this topic: Algeria declared that it would agree to buy the Su-57 if Russia forgave its $4,7 billion debt... And since deliveries are ongoing, that means the debt has been written off. And then, after the delivery, it's the usual procedure for the natives: they drag their feet, don't pay the contract, supposedly have nothing to pay with (and, most importantly, don't want to), then there's debt restructuring, debt write-off... So the parasitism of the natives (and Africans, and Central Asians, and not only them) is paid for by the resources and labor of the Russian people—that's how our government looks generous (to outsiders...).
        1. +2
          5 August 2026 07: 52
          Quote: Tikhonov_Alexander
          "Algeria is very interested in the 57th. Now that's a customer, and the first export Drakes went to Algeria."
          There was a publication on this topic: Algeria declared that it would agree to buy the Su-57 if Russia forgave its $4,7 billion debt... And since deliveries are ongoing, that means the debt has been written off. And then, after the delivery, it's the usual procedure for the natives: they drag their feet, don't pay the contract, supposedly have nothing to pay with (and, most importantly, don't want to), then there's debt restructuring, debt write-off... So the parasitism of the natives (and Africans, and Central Asians, and not only them) is paid for by the resources and labor of the Russian people—that's how our government looks generous (to outsiders...).

          Excellent marketing.
  12. +4
    4 August 2026 21: 42
    There's no need to watch Indian dances at all. They have seven Fridays in a week. India is really like a woman. So wild, not knowing what she wants, but it's your fault for not giving it to her.
    1. +4
      4 August 2026 21: 47
      ...the main thing is not to be near such a woman, otherwise she will say that she was raped in her dreams...
  13. +4
    4 August 2026 21: 52
    At the same time, the Indian military has still not been able to answer the question of what exactly it is about the Su-57's stealth that they are not satisfied with.
    The complaint is that the Indians didn't leak this parameter to the public?
    1. +1
      5 August 2026 05: 16
      Quote: tjeck91
      The complaint is that the Indians didn't leak this parameter to the public?
      The most inconspicuous thing here is the size of the cut: it's very easy to check, since the amounts are transparent. And during development, you can get so far that the toilets won't be gold, but diamond-cut.
      Well, as long as Pakistan doesn't have it, there's no need to rush.
  14. +3
    4 August 2026 21: 54
    If they don't want it, then they don't want it... We need to declare that we don't want it either - it's not enough for us.
  15. + 10
    4 August 2026 22: 00
    How many more times can we keep stepping on the same Indian rake? The story with the Brahmos, the AK-12, the T-90 tank, the BMP/APC, the air defense system—we'll buy it now! No, we'll make our own first! Oh, ours didn't work out!!! We'll buy yours, but!!! Just give us a license and build us a factory??? We'll wrap our turbans now, think about it...just make it cheap... and keep doing it for decades.
    1. +4
      4 August 2026 22: 02
      everything is so, but the most important thing has been forgotten - DANCING! laughing
      1. +6
        4 August 2026 22: 19
        I got carried away... thanks for reminding me. And Bollywood. hi
        1. +3
          4 August 2026 22: 26
          ...but I missed this... hi I'm talking about Bollywood. lol
    2. +5
      4 August 2026 23: 10
      Even the gypsies fled from these greedy guys in their time.
      1. 0
        5 August 2026 13: 47
        It's nothing but Brahmaputra, God forgive me!
  16. +9
    4 August 2026 22: 05
    Thank goodness! Incidentally, the US has a LEGAL ban on selling the F-22. But we're ready to sell everything we can and can't to anyone. India is practically Ukraine, where everything is leaky. They'll instantly hand over all their secrets to anyone. Our Air Force isn't even saturated with new weapons yet, and already they're SELLING! SELLING! SELLING!
    1. +2
      4 August 2026 22: 11
      So they tried to sell it to the Sultan... but the Sultan proudly decided to make his own.
    2. +5
      4 August 2026 22: 53
      It's been like this since the 90s, everyone is a sellout, all "business in Russian" is buy-and-sell 🫣
      1. +2
        5 August 2026 03: 13
        It's international. True, some people even manage to produce it. But here it's just like that. Buy there, sell here for more. Business, damn it.
  17. +1
    4 August 2026 22: 06
    According to Defense Security Asia, citing Indian Defense Secretary Rajesh Kumar Singh, New Delhi is not considering purchasing Sukhoi aircraft, including the aforementioned Su-57Es.
    We looked and thought: why the hell do we need this?
  18. +1
    4 August 2026 22: 10
    India has made its final decision on the acquisition of the Su-57. This decision is to abandon the purchase of the Russian fifth-generation aircraft.

    Heh, yes, as they say, to your health.
    We ourselves are in dire need of them now, so we can live without your “purchase”. lol
    You already regretted giving up once. And you'll regret it again. This isn't like singing and jumping around in Bollywood. laughing
    1. +2
      4 August 2026 22: 21
      If anything happens, they'll go to a white sahib and buy it. They have enough money.
  19. +4
    4 August 2026 22: 15
    You'll see, before a year goes by, they'll change their minds again and rush to buy this product with renewed vigor. In a word, they're Indians.
  20. +2
    4 August 2026 22: 16
    And our guys, they were so eager to shove the 57th generation down their throats, complete with all the technology and licensing, but their wishes didn't match reality, and the Gypsies might be left with nothing at all. Maybe we should satiate ourselves first—there's a ton of work to do, they're desperately needed—or we'll just bury them with the sixth generation, but miracles only come true in fairy tales. And the Americans and Chinese have been competing with each other for a while now, so they'll soon have one, too, from the Pakistanis. Then we'll sell the S-500 to the Indians.
    1. +4
      4 August 2026 22: 23
      ...I would sell the S-800 to the Indians even now... feel Why bother with trifles?
    2. +5
      4 August 2026 22: 48
      They'll get a hole in a donut, since the USSR they haven't had such quirks.
  21. +3
    4 August 2026 22: 18
    On the one hand, I understand the Indians, because if you always buy from others, there's no point in producing your own. And yet, in the next 50-80 years, they will have their own aircraft industry and aircraft engine manufacturing. Design and digital testing technologies make this long and arduous journey much faster.
    1. +1
      4 August 2026 23: 27
      The Arjun tank will confirm)))) Very thorny, and very long, and very expensive))))) And of course, useless))))))
      1. +3
        5 August 2026 04: 49
        ...but the orange flower garlands look very beautiful on Arjuna. lol I saw it myself somewhere in the internet press in a photo. Yes
      2. 0
        5 August 2026 13: 08
        Any tank is no match for a drone, and if you're going for the long haul, then without making mistakes, there's no better tank on the Arjuna.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 22: 24
          There was only one mistake on the Arjuna: they should have purchased Russian T-90s and continued localization.
          What do you mean India won't have a better tank? - it does have one - the T-90.
    2. 0
      5 August 2026 03: 16
      Yeah, it will definitely appear, there’s no way it won’t appear. lol
      1. 0
        5 August 2026 13: 12
        If we work purposefully in this direction, it will appear; if we just launder money, it won't. We still haven't developed a decent car, nor have we developed automatic transmissions, nor have we developed hybrids, but China has inundated us with cars that are actually quite good for the money.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 22: 28
          Indians... on purpose? You're an optimist. Comparing them to the Chinese...
          1. 0
            6 August 2026 09: 40
            Well, if you look at the Indian auto industry, they're already decades ahead of us. If it weren't for the Soviet Union, we'd still be wearing bast shoes. Our country is living on the legacy of our past. And many here are puffing out their cheeks: the Indians can't, the Indians won't, they'll just chop it all up. They don't chop up any more than we do, their people are much more hardworking than ours, and their engineers are also worthy. There's no need to be so arrogant as to belittle Indians' prospects and extol our own capabilities, because these aren't our capabilities but a legacy from our ancestors. Right now, we're nothing.
            1. 0
              10 August 2026 23: 27
              There are simply so many of them, which compensates. And given that in today's cut-and-dried Russian Federation, no one wants to work in the manufacturing sector, we'll naturally lag behind. India's auto industry is a godsend. Even considering they didn't build it from scratch, but rather from someone else.
              I completely agree about zero without a stick today.
  22. +3
    4 August 2026 22: 19
    The news is rather one-sided. I read that they're abandoning the Su-57 in favor of upgrading the Su-30SM and its upgrades. It's clear who's going to do it.
    1. +3
      5 August 2026 00: 14
      Which is clear who will do.
      Considering that half of the weapons there are Israeli, including radars, it is not a fact that our factories will get anything.
      SU-30SM
      The Indians have the Su-30MKI, but the Su-30SM is not in their arsenal.
  23. +2
    4 August 2026 22: 28
    What I never doubted was that India, at this historical juncture, would not be a reliable partner for us in military procurement. They are not reliable.
  24. +1
    4 August 2026 22: 38
    We'll be looking forward to seeing the Indian stealth aircraft...
    1. +3
      4 August 2026 22: 50
      We won't see him, he's invisible, these words are strictly from the article))
      1. +1
        5 August 2026 19: 01
        ...how will they land it - it's invisible...
  25. +1
    4 August 2026 22: 47
    Tejas has been under development for 40 years, and out of 30 produced, two failed, and now they want to create a 5th generation in five years...
  26. 0
    4 August 2026 22: 47
    I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it!)) Heady dances with heady tambourines. Apparently, the Fabergés weren't of the right system, the Indians wavered, and you don't need to go to a fortune teller to tell your fortune. wassat
  27. +2
    4 August 2026 23: 06
    Well, Indians are a subspecies of gypsies. It's clear that in addition to buying Su-57s, they wanted to be able to manufacture them themselves and pay for them cheaply with their own candy wrappers.
  28. 0
    4 August 2026 23: 21
    Baksheesh wasn't up to par with the sixth generation. The East is a delicate matter...
  29. 0
    4 August 2026 23: 24
    Nothing changes)))) Indians want Arjun with wings))))))
    1. +1
      5 August 2026 19: 02
      They need really big wings there, it's a tank! And a tank is heavy. And that's why all the Indians don't fit in the hull. And who will flap the wings then???
  30. 0
    4 August 2026 23: 27
    This is good for our country (and bad for Su's top managers).
    We need a lot of Su-57 1/2 local and a lot of pilots in the area of ​​the approaching 3rd World War and it is not right to throw away planes and technologies left and right.

    We need unification of the Su-30 and Su-35, plus a transition to the Su-57, and we need it urgently! Literally hundreds of new aircraft are needed, and I don't understand how Sukhoi management was planning to pull this off while simultaneously competing with contracts for the Indians.
    1. +2
      4 August 2026 23: 45
      It's necessary. But for some reason, planes can't be built without money. The Indians could have paid for the portion of the planes planned for our troops.
      1. +2
        5 August 2026 03: 20
        "What, Fox didn't have any money? ..." (c). The list of billionaires there has grown a lot...
        1. +1
          5 August 2026 06: 20
          So billionaires aren't exactly rushing to buy weapons for the state with their own hard-earned money. They might buy them for themselves, but... As a rule, if such an "altruist" appears among the billionaires, they quickly cease to be a billionaire. "Coerced altruists" can do this, but they typically expect certain conditions from the state for themselves.
          1. -1
            5 August 2026 10: 23
            So, who's going to question them? There's only a little time left before the big showdown. And then everything (and everything) is for the front, everything for Victory... Just make sure the loopholes are securely plugged and the Falcons are nailed down tightly to the runway. Let them patriotize a little for the Motherland, and most importantly from the heart, from the bottom of their hearts, otherwise they just keep robbing and robbing her, the defenseless one.
            1. 0
              5 August 2026 15: 51
              So who's going to dispossess the kulaks? They are the owners of the country, not the people. And the president, no matter what they say about him, is not a dictator.
              Well, there's not as much spare cash as it seems, and it's not always in domestic accounts. The bulk of our billionaires' wealth is in the form of "factories, newspapers, and steamships."
              But to be completely honest, the money will continue to be taken from the budget, cutting social programs. And the more people resent these cuts, the fewer planes they'll order.
              1. 0
                5 August 2026 22: 15
                You don't understand. When they come at you en masse, you won't be able to fight them off. According to ancient Russian tradition, everything will work itself out. People will come who are ready to pull Russia out of its mess. There are plenty of people capable of doing this in the country. Let's remember what happened in Donbas. An extreme situation will force us to decide. The nation will live or perish.
                The president is definitely not a dictator, he's their director. But that won't happen until things start to go south like they did in '41.
      2. +1
        5 August 2026 11: 25
        I've been hearing this talk about no money for years, and then suddenly – 600 billion is left. Just like a granny with a stash. Stop playing poor! There's a war going on now... and it will lead to another war... and we need to spend now, while the factories are still standing. But of course, some people think a new black guy in a T-shirt and a plov festival are more important. There's always money for that. How I remember all those clinical World Cups and Olympics... how indignant I was back then... for the amusement of the public.
    2. +1
      5 August 2026 00: 21
      Unification of the Su-30 and Su-35 is needed
      It already exists, the Su-30-SM2 and Su-35S are unified in engines, avionics, radar, it won't be possible to switch to the Su-57 until the current 4++ aircraft have flown their time, and this will not be soon, very soon, that's why the native Aerospace Forces will have to live with the zoo
      This is good for our country (and bad for Su's top managers).
      Selling abroad is very good for the plant producing the 57th and all its subcontractors. The price of the Su-57 for the Russian Aerospace Forces and its export price are very different, and the plants need to earn money to expand production of current models and design new ones. It seems trivial, but there are still geniuses like you.
      1. +1
        5 August 2026 03: 22
        That's because it's a market. It will leave you with nothing when it hits and you have to fight back in earnest.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 08: 43
          This is because it is a market.
          Sir, it's capitalism, so either a company makes money on its own or sucks up our taxes, which could go towards other useful things, like the development of microelectronics, which wouldn't be bad, would it?
          1. +1
            5 August 2026 10: 15
            What was I talking about? It sucks when we live in capitalism. Sir. hi
      2. 0
        5 August 2026 11: 32
        Not everything is measured in money—the Chinese don't sell theirs to anyone because they're afraid of access to the technology. The Americans sell F35s sealed and service them themselves, so workers from friendly countries don't have access to the electronics. Not to mention the fact that all F35s can transmit control remotely to America.

        We don't have this? We don't have this! We're like D with candy wrappers, ready to give away all our secrets for a piece of paper. And there's no need to come up with excuses for this madness! So, personally, I'm glad the Indians get screwed, and not access to the 5th generation.
        1. 0
          5 August 2026 12: 50
          The Americans sell F35s with seals and service them themselves so that workers from friendly countries do not have access to electronics.
          Get well, comrade, the components of the F-35 are produced in almost all the countries that have it in service or will have it in service. This is an initially international project, there are secrets only for China and Russia. You should at least inquire about the issue before writing and embarrassing yourself.
          1. 0
            5 August 2026 22: 54
            You'd better fix it yourself. I know what I'm talking about, because I heard it from Sivkov, for example, in interviews and from others. The fact that spare parts are manufactured in many places doesn't mean there isn't a secret list of spare parts and software. Are you denying that the F-35 has combat readiness levels that can be reduced remotely from America and access to which is blocked for F-35 operating countries? Or perhaps you're denying that even at the F-16 airfield, not all equipment is accessible to non-Americans?
            1. 0
              5 August 2026 23: 15
              You deny that the F35 has readiness levels that can be reduced remotely from America and access to which is blocked for countries operating the F35.
              Yes, because at the current stage of technological development this is an extremely difficult task to accomplish, and it makes no sense, no one has ever provided evidence of the so-called bookmarks, NOT ONCE, and therefore this is simply nonsense.
              Or maybe you deny that even at F16 at the airfield, not all the equipment is accessible to non-Americans?
              What version of the F-16? There are 10 modifications flying as of 2026, the oldest of which is already 30 years old.
              1. 0
                6 August 2026 00: 55
                Yet experts tell you the opposite. So what?
          2. 0
            5 August 2026 23: 00
            Quote: Vitaliy161
            At least be interested in the issue before you write and embarrass yourself.

            The most important avionics, radars, and software are completely under US control. The only country the US can't disable and render the F-35 useless is Israel, which supplied its own avionics and radars.
            1. 0
              5 August 2026 23: 19
              The US doesn't have the ability to turn something off and make the F-35
              Please provide proof that the US can do this, and not just some article from some shady drug addict, but a specific work that contains evidence of the possibility of remotely disabling the F-35, or whatever you call it.
              1. 0
                6 August 2026 17: 18
                In fact, this has been discussed in the European press since Trump's election, in fact, by all major publications. Naturally, there's no way to shut down the F-35, but it is heavily dependent on constant updates, the American maintenance system, and the ODIN data cloud, whose servers are also located in the US. Ultimately, the F-35 will be unable to fly or use its radar or weapons for a short period of time, or at least will be so limited that its purpose will quickly become irrelevant. For example, radar updates are constantly being made, specifically based on monitoring by US reconnaissance assets. In other words, in addition to what the F-35's radar can see, it already has the location of air defenses, enemy aircraft, and other targets in its database, thanks to a constant stream of updates from the US global reconnaissance system. Depriving the air forces of countries armed with F-35s of this update would significantly emasculate their strategic capabilities and increase risks. Spare parts and consumables are also purchased exclusively from the US.
                1. 0
                  9 August 2026 13: 02
                  There is no button to disable the F-35, of course, but there is a strong dependence on constant updates
                  Heh, as they say, all modern aviation depends on software updates, including our own Su-57, as well as the Su-34M. And believe it or not, if the Algerian 34K needs updating, for example, our specialists will go and update the software.
        2. 0
          5 August 2026 13: 01
          Not everything is measured in money - the Chinese don't sell their products to anyone because they fear access to technology.
          Yes, no one really needs Chinese products, especially airplanes. Even the JF 17 is exported with the RD 93. And no one is going to transfer engine technology to the Chinese, or the Indians, or anyone else, even on the AL 31, although this engine is still a Soviet design. Everything else can and should be sold in an export version.
          1. 0
            5 August 2026 22: 57
            More of your speculation... when the deal to sell the Chinese 5th generation was discussed, it was explicitly stated that it fell through due to the Chinese's concerns about potential access to the technology! Because the Chinese were offering a scheme similar to the American one, where the buyer would not have full access to service, seals, or their own personnel.
            1. 0
              5 August 2026 23: 09
              due to the Chinese fear of possible access to technology!
              What kind of technologies, please be more specific.
              P.S.
              Modern technology is such that reverse engineering hasn't worked for 40 years. The Chinese still can't perfect their copy of the AL-31F, which they call the WS-10. They copied it, it's in production, but its service life is half that of the original, and they haven't been able to perfect it for 20 years because they don't have the technology to produce turbine blades. That's the end of it. And half their Air Force flies on these engines, by the way.
              The Chinese offered a scheme similar to the American one - where the buyer would not have full access to service, those seals, and their own staff.
              Is this the same for everyone in aviation, or do you think the Indians have a different approach with their Su-30MKI? Engines need scheduled overhaul? They send them to NPO Saturn. Radar needs repair? They send them to the Jews because they manufactured it. It's the same in our own Aerospace Forces. Need an airframe's service life extended? It's sent to the manufacturer, where they disassemble it down to the last screw, conduct inspections, and extend its service life. Same with engines and electronics. All scheduled maintenance is performed either at the factory or, if possible, on-site by the manufacturer's employees!
      3. 0
        6 August 2026 00: 28
        Standardization is going poorly there, as the media reported. Even plant representatives said it's insufficient. What's needed is maximum standardization!

        I think the Su-30 (maximum unification with the Su-35) should become the basis of a fighter jet, like the F-18 in America—a workhorse. And the Su-57 should take the lead, displacing the Su-35. After all, stealth is essential for a fighter, given the range of the new missiles. Plus, stealth reconnaissance. A workhorse needs pylon-based attachments, which ruin the whole point of the 5th generation.
        1. 0
          6 August 2026 00: 36
          The unification process there is going badly, as the media wrote.
          These are two different planes, so they could have been unified.
          Plus stealth reconnaissance.
          Where did you get this nonsense?
          A workhorse needs a pylon suspension
          The 57 is currently one of the largest 5K models, and it carries everything it needs in its internal compartments.
          1. 0
            6 August 2026 01: 00
            The Su-30 is essentially a two-seat Su-27, but what's needed is a two-seat Su-35. This would ensure complete unification. But that's a question for the factories.

            I got this from the fact that the Su-57 has radars all over its body and can detect air defenses much better and scan the terrain more safely. Again, the two-seat version will be able to do this even better.

            The Su-57 also has external hardpoints. Or do you even deny that? Well, to each his own.
            1. 0
              9 August 2026 13: 08
              The Su-30 is essentially a two-seat Su-27.
              We are talking about the Su-30SM2, so I report that it is not the Su-27 at all, not even close, it is actually closer to the Su-35 and is unified with it
              I got this from the fact that the Su-57 has radars all over its body and can calculate air defenses much better and scan the area more safely.
              It has one radar, located under the nose radio-transparent fairing, and SPO sensors are located throughout the fuselage, but this is not a radar and it is impossible to conduct effective reconnaissance using them; for this, there are SIGINT aircraft, which are designed for this purpose and carry out SIGINT.
              The Su-57 also has external hardpoints. Or do you even deny that? Well, to each his own.
              Yes, but their use in combat only makes sense when operating outside the detection and destruction radius of enemy weapons.
              In general, tighten up your material, you're not doing so well.
              1. 0
                10 August 2026 01: 07
                I'm doing poorly, but you're doing absolutely nothing. You're trying to fit an owl onto a globe, but what else can you do? Keep trying. Anyone can paraphrase Wikipedia, but what's the reality?

                1) Is the Su-30SM2 in no way the Su-27? Well, yes, it's just based on it. So is the Su-35, but the Su-35 is still more distinctive. Even its airframe components are different. Or do you have an exact percentage calculation? Personally, I believe the factory's claims about continued unification more than you do.
                2) "Radar is a device that finds various objects and measures their path using radio waves. The word comes from English and means "radio detection and ranging." If we're going to play with words. As for reconnaissance... it's logical that modifications are needed, not just the bare standard version. Well, no one uses the F18 for reconnaissance in its bare form. That's obvious.
                3) The purpose of using pylons is determined not by you or your opinion, but by the people on the ground. And if necessary, they'll mount everything on the Su-57, and it'll fly regardless of your understanding of the purpose. That's what they're there for.

                I think that's all I have with your owls.
                1. 0
                  10 August 2026 07: 19
                  Well, no one uses the F18 for reconnaissance in its bare form. That's obvious.
                  The Growler is a specialized SIGINT aircraft; this modification is not used for anything else. The Aerospace Forces also have such aircraft.
                  Radar is a device that finds things and measures their path using radio waves.
                  Did you screw up and decide to show off? It won't work. If you don't know what SPO and RLS are, go learn the math.
                  Is the Su-30SM2 the Su-27? Well, yes, it's just based on it. So is the Su-35, but the Su-35 is still more distinctive.
                  Both the Su-30SM2 and Su-35S are very different from the Su-27, and from each other too, you would know this if you read anything other than Wikipedia.
                  I think that's all I have with your owls.
                  Yes, yes, tighten up the material, otherwise stealth reconnaissance is idle. laughing
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                    Yesterday, 01: 05
                    The only thing that's interesting about your messages is: Where does this preachy tone come from? Is it professional deformation, something psychological, or simply a lack of culture? Then I'll leave you and your owl.
  31. +1
    4 August 2026 23: 48
    They've backed themselves into a dead end. The Americans probably won't give them the F-35, and if they do, it'll be with simplified options and without a license—off-the-shelf and expensive. Europe simply doesn't have one. The Chinese won't give them one. There's also the South Korean KF21, a transitional model, more like 4++, maybe something along those lines. They can't do it alone. So the Su-57E was their chance not only to jump into the 5th generation, but also to master its advanced assembly. The contract parameters were excellent—eight imported aircraft, $100 million per aircraft, and another 45 to be assembled with gradual localization, except for the engines. And with an option, too! But... it didn't work out...
    1. +1
      5 August 2026 06: 22
      "If you don't want kulesh, don't eat anything." (c)
  32. +4
    4 August 2026 23: 51
    What joy! The technology will stay in Russia! Our efficient managers are ready to sell everything. And we'll get more, too, since our capacity won't be diverted to export orders.
    1. 0
      5 August 2026 11: 34
      I'm also glad we got so lucky. But it's not a given that they've abandoned the effective ones.
  33. 0
    4 August 2026 23: 55
    Well, of course, this is not like shitting in the Ganges!!!
  34. -5
    5 August 2026 00: 03
    The Indian Defense Ministry has announced that it is abandoning the purchase of Russian Su-57 fighter jets.


    And they did the right thing!!!

    Because, in essence, the Su-57 has made no significant contribution to achieving victory in the Air Defense Forces, and if that's the case, then there's no need for it. And let Rostec leave the tales of unparalleled technologies and characteristics to idiots.

    The work of the Su-35 and Su-34 is visible, but a dozen Su-57s were simply washed away. The Indians don't need a plane for parades, they need a plane for war.

    A good weapon sells itself, but no one needs crap.

    Rostec will find an excuse, saying the Indians are bad and don't want to buy crap, i.e., the Su-57. It's the same story with the MiG-35, only for some reason the Russian Ministry of Defense is in no rush to buy the MiG-35.

    Shameful.
    1. +2
      5 August 2026 00: 30
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Because, in essence, the Su-57 has made no significant contribution to achieving victory in the Air Defense Forces, and if that's the case, then there's no need for it. And let Rostec leave the tales of unparalleled technologies and characteristics to idiots.

      The work of the Su-35 and Su-34 is visible, but a dozen Su-57s were simply washed away to the side.

      57s are working, your "mobilized" lies are getting pretty annoying
    2. 0
      5 August 2026 00: 41
      The work of the Su-35
      Where did you see them? They don't have any particular purpose in the current conflict; the Su-35 is primarily an air superiority aircraft, like the Su-57.
      significant contribution of the Su-57
      They work, there are just not many of them, and there are not many weapons for them either, and the 57ths do not work with FABs and UMPK, it’s like that gopher that no one sees, but it’s there.
      MiG-35, same story, only for some reason the Russian Ministry of Defense is in no hurry to buy the MiG-35.
      Why is it needed? The aircraft was originally intended for export, to replace the aging 29s already exported. However, due to the dismal state of the MiG design bureau, it was never fully developed, and thus fell into disuse. Mikoyan is now hard at work developing the Su-75.
      Because, in essence, the Su-57 made no significant contribution to achieving victory in the Central Military District.
      Had the T-90 and Su-30MKI seen much combat when the Indians placed their order for these aircraft? I also didn't see any F-22 performance during the recent events in Iran, so the Raptor is also crap?
  35. +1
    5 August 2026 00: 15
    I respect Mahatma Gandhi: "We are against the British." The question is, FOR WHAT India in 2026? Preferably like Gandhi, IN ONE WORD.
  36. 0
    5 August 2026 00: 38
    The Indians are still refining the HAL Tejas and have produced a total of 33 units, three of which have already been destroyed... and this is the 4+ generation... the first prototype was made in 1996... the Indians are really going all out with the AMSA for 2034...
  37. 0
    5 August 2026 00: 55
    Well, screw it. Let them buy a Rafale 4++ for the price of a stealthy fifth-generation air superiority fighter. And there are only two of those: the American Raptor and our Sukhoi.
  38. +2
    5 August 2026 01: 04
    The phasing out of the Su-57 means India will rely on upgrading its existing fighter fleet until the AMCA is implemented, leaving the country without a fifth-generation fighter until at least the middle of the next decade.

    As expected! The Indians want to build their own aircraft. They looked at the Chinese, saw their planes, and wanted to produce their own. They're not planning to fight. If they do everything right, then in 20 years, something will fly, maybe even something competitive.
  39. +4
    5 August 2026 02: 06
    Quote: Mikhado
    A country with an ancient history and such infantile, feminine behavior on serious issues... Facepalm belay

    It's a rustic story, but does modern Indians have anything to do with it? They're not very good at building "vimanas"... hi
  40. +4
    5 August 2026 02: 20
    The Indian Defense Ministry has announced that it is abandoning the purchase of Russian Su-57 fighter jets.

    This BRICS has become some kind of BRICS...
    And here, Indians are wandering around the city as if it were their own camp... And no one has refused to accept them...
  41. +3
    5 August 2026 02: 40
    They didn't bring it to the people they were supposed to, as much as they hinted at.
    1. +1
      5 August 2026 05: 56
      They didn't bring it to the right people, as much as they hinted at.
      That's most likely! There's no way the arms trade can get by without counterfeiters.
  42. +1
    5 August 2026 03: 40
    Apparently they wanted too much, give them all the technical documentation for the engines and avionics and they were logically given it, but they said, "It wasn't you who refused us, it was WE who refused you!"
  43. 0
    5 August 2026 03: 52
    Gypsies in a friendly crowd
    In 40-degree frost
    For a chocolate candy
    They pushed a steam locomotive up the hill.
  44. +3
    5 August 2026 05: 54
    "The Indian Ministry of Defense has announced that it is abandoning the purchase of Russian Su-57 fighter jets..."
    Finally, they'll stop messing with our brains... They refused - and thank God, the Monomakh's Cap is not according to Senka!)
  45. +4
    5 August 2026 05: 54
    It seems that it is time to establish good relations with Pakistan.
  46. +3
    5 August 2026 06: 02
    I think it's all about Trump, he probably pointed his finger at them, and that's why India got scared, despite all the talk about sovereignty.
  47. 0
    5 August 2026 06: 23
    At the same time, the Indian military has still not been able to answer the question of what exactly it is about the Su-57's stealth that they are not satisfied with.

    It's not a matter of stealth. It's just that a Republican elephant ran into an Indian elephant, so the Indian elephant had to tuck its trunk away.
  48. 0
    5 August 2026 06: 31
    I have always distrusted Indians - gypsies, unreliable partners.
  49. 0
    5 August 2026 07: 46
    the yanks will have a say in this, so too will the jewbals,
    and yet they still want cheap oil, which they re sell at great profit to the uk
    stop the oil as well as the planes, then they maybe come to their senses
  50. +2
    5 August 2026 08: 03
    There's no point in wasting technology until they pay you.
  51. 0
    5 August 2026 08: 04
    India is a sovereign country and has the right to take any decisions.
  52. +1
    5 August 2026 08: 11
    Instead of purchasing fifth-generation aircraft from abroad, India plans to implement its own program, the AMCA. This is the first fully Indian-designed fifth-generation fighter, designed to fill the gap between the light Tejas and heavy fighters.
    HA HA HA...!
  53. +1
    5 August 2026 08: 24
    That's right, why would the Indians need Su-57s if they have vimanas, and most importantly, the instructions for using them, "Vimanika Shastra," they'll all sit in a camp on the vimana and suddenly fly off into the sky, one and a half billion of them.
  54. +1
    5 August 2026 08: 31
    China and Pakistan are smoking contentedly at the border, looking through binoculars at guys with sticks.
  55. +1
    5 August 2026 08: 51
    The Tejas production program lasted, what, 25 years, and the plane it produced was already obsolete from the start. India will be building a fifth-generation plane FOREVER!
  56. +3
    5 August 2026 09: 09
    Everyone is already fed up with all this dancing with tambourines from the Indians, well, enough of coddling them and persuading them, this so-called cooperation with the Indians could be to our detriment, let them try to build their own 5th generation aircraft, I think it’s unlikely that they will succeed, and if they do succeed, to put it mildly, not very well.
  57. +1
    5 August 2026 09: 29
    You can forever watch the fire burn, the water flow, and... dance with the elephants. laughing
    They abandoned the fifth generation - like it wasn't quite the fifth, and started to finish it THEMSELVES, even if it was 4++... Without experience or a production base.
  58. 0
    5 August 2026 09: 29
    Jimmy, Jimmy... acha-acha... it's just another yigura of the Indian Marlizon ballet. It's simple, the payoff is too small, they haven't squeezed everything out of Sukhoi yet.
  59. 0
    5 August 2026 09: 52
    Fools get old too!
    didn't dance!
  60. 0
    5 August 2026 10: 38
    Yeah, the Indians were and still are a colony.
    Another problem is caste.
    It seems that the military caste has degenerated into traders, who in turn have acquired a surly, uncooperative character.
    The ancestors of the ancient Indian civilization were unable to copy the Kalashnikov assault rifle, and here we have a 5th generation fighter.
    Let's see and laugh...
  61. 0
    5 August 2026 10: 57
    What a beautiful car it turned out to be, it's just begging for a single-engine assistant to be its partner! Although I would repaint it dark like in that Gun, it suits it very well.
  62. 0
    5 August 2026 11: 04
    Yes, give them the flag in their hands with their fighter and let them lead the column going... further away.
  63. 0
    5 August 2026 11: 13
    To trust the Gypsies is to disrespect yourself! But we continue to step on this rake time and time again.
  64. 0
    5 August 2026 11: 56
    Thank God, we will get more.
    And I would completely cross the Indians, with their entrapments, off the list of buyers of our weapons.
    If they want it, let them run after us themselves.
    Just stop cooperating with them and let them go to hell...
  65. 0
    5 August 2026 12: 04
    They refused again. The Indians never tire of making the same mistakes.
  66. 0
    5 August 2026 12: 46
    They refused... well, well...
    It's still unknown who will be worse off because of this )))
  67. +1
    5 August 2026 15: 56
    If it's invisible, then surely it flies freely over Ukraine, destroying important targets, say, air defense missile systems, with impunity, paving the way for bombers? And if not, then does that mean the stealth failed, that it didn't pass combat testing, that it's not 5th generation, but 4th plus plus plus almost plus plus? Or does it actually fly? Then why haven't they achieved air superiority?
  68. +1
    5 August 2026 17: 26
    Gypsy dancing continues, nothing new.
  69. 0
    5 August 2026 18: 10
    The Indians' refusal—the second, by the way—may indicate doubts about our side's ability to fulfill the contract's terms in the coming years, precisely until the middle of the next decade. And such doubts, it must be admitted, are entirely justified.
  70. 0
    6 August 2026 06: 06
    Nevertheless, they buy Rafales.
    This means that somewhere someone can't solve the problem.
  71. 0
    6 August 2026 08: 46
    GE-GE GA-GA TAGIL RULES. RUSSIA FORWARD. WE ARE THE BEST. HURRY, HURRY. Shniks and yes.