In Sevastopol, a serviceman opened fire on fellow soldiers and civilians.

In the village of Khmelnitsky in Sevastopol, a soldier opened fire on fellow soldiers and civilians, resulting in casualties, according to the governor of Sevastopol.

According to preliminary information, the incident occurred today. One of the servicemen, whose identity is not being processed, opened fire on his fellow soldiers, killing one and wounding the other. He then shot three civilians and wounded three more in the village itself.

An emergency occurred in the village of Khmelnytskyi. According to preliminary reports, a soldier opened fire on his fellow soldiers. As a result, one person was killed and one was wounded. The attacker then wounded three more people and killed three civilians in Khmelnytskyi: two men, aged 71 and 59, and a woman, aged 64.

The attacker has been detained, and the motive and circumstances of the attack are being investigated. Law enforcement and emergency services are working, and the victims are receiving medical assistance.

Authorities warn that fake information is likely to be leaked from Ukrainian sources, and therefore ask people to trust only official statements and not spread rumors.

Comments

[January]

No one can control the "craze" 100% anywhere. In an environment where people are under constant psychological pressure, especially in the presence of weapons, this factor only intensifies. The investigation will show...

[YES UZH]

[=ian]No one can 100% control the "roof-melting" anywhere. In an environment where people are under constant psychological pressure, especially in the presence of weapons, this factor only intensifies. The investigation will show...

If you recall the incident at the Russian military base in Armenia, where a Russian Armed Forces soldier, a conscript, went AWOL, entered a house, and killed an entire family, including children. This happened before the then Russian president's state visit and the extension of the treaty with Armenia. It later turned out the soldier was originally from Siberia and left after a phone call with the family. Only it turned out the entire village was a Protestant sect of Pentecostal Baptists. https://dzen.ru/a/ZRz4Nba_jhQGBVsz

[Seal]

Quote: YES

If you remember the incident at the Russian military base in Armenia, where a Russian Armed Forces soldier, a conscript, went AWOL and entered a house and killed an entire family with children.

Does it matter that Permyakov essentially said nothing? He was remarkably laconic during the trial: "I refuse to testify," "I plead guilty to everything," "I agree with any punishment."
Permyakov was born and lived in the city of Baley.
Baley is a city in the Zabaykalsky Krai of the Russian Federation. It is the administrative center of the Baleysky District. Yes, his father was a pastor at an evangelical church in Baley. He was not a Pentecostal.
Why, of all the houses he passed along the way, did Permyakov choose the Avetisyan house? Yes, this house had a flimsy wooden door, which the owner was planning to replace with a new iron one. And according to some relatives, the owner had allegedly even ordered it. Question: Perhaps, of course, Avetisyan decided to replace the old wooden door with a new iron one completely by chance. Or perhaps it was not by chance? Perhaps the elder Avetisyan was worried about something, since he decided to fortify the house? Another point. The Avetisyan family occupied only half of the house; their relative, Karine, lived in the other half, with a separate entrance.
Further quote:

"As Karine, who was sleeping next door, told me, she heard a noise and woke up, but thought it was an earthquake. Karine went outside, looked around, everything was quiet, and the woman returned home, and in the morning, she calmly went to work."

Early in the morning, 23 shots were heard outside the building. Karina thought it was an earthquake. https://am.sputniknews.ru/20160129/1791161.html
https://russia-armenia.info/node/34791
In my opinion, after an earthquake, any normal homeowner should walk around his house (even if he only owns half of the house) and make sure that the house is not in any danger.
Most likely, that's what Karine did. But the question is: why didn't she stop by her relatives' house instead of quickly running off to work? What did Karine see?
There was snow in Gyumri that night. Let's look at the weather report:

As of 10:00 a.m. on January 8, roads in Armenia are closed and impassable, the press service of the Ministry of Territorial Administration and Emergency Situations reported to Armenian News – NEWS.am. Specifically, the Selim Pass is closed due to a snowstorm. According to the ArmStateHydroMeteorological Center, snowfall is expected to continue throughout the day in most regions of the country.

By the way, it's much safer for a runner to simply put a lump of snow in his mouth and keep running. But he went into the house. Why? Was he really just "getting a drink of water"? And returning to the relative who owned the other half of the house. If this relative had actually walked around the house to assess its condition after what she thought was an earthquake, she couldn't have failed to notice the prints of soldiers' boots in the snow. Yes, maybe she hadn't walked around the house. But why? After all, she thought there had been an earthquake. Didn't it really occur to her to stop by her relatives' half, at least to make sure everything was okay? What a strange relationship, if she hadn't stopped by.
Well, what if the relative did go around the house? Maybe she saw something she shouldn't have? And quickly ran off to work.
At six in the morning, Permyakov left the murdered family's home. But he wasn't detained until midnight while attempting to cross the Armenian-Turkish border. How could a soldier, whose wanted posters had been posted to every outpost, have safely left the city? Where had he been hiding all this time? Deputy Commander of the Russian border detachment, Sergei Merzlikin, recalled his conversation with the accused immediately after his arrest at the border. Among the standard questions about where he'd been hiding all this time and where he'd hidden his weapons, the border guard, for some reason, decided to ask Permyakov if he'd eaten. "The taxi driver brought me three shawarmas and three Pepsi-Colas," the soldier allegedly said.
Who is this mysterious taxi driver?
https://www.mk.ru/social/2016/03/03/o-chem-molchit-palach-iz-gyumri-strashnye-tayny-ryadovogo-permyakova.html

[ZnachWest]

This is certainly a justifying circumstance. So, was he awarded something, or what?

[alexboguslavski]

There can be no justification for a soldier who opened fire on his own civilians. That's not why his homeland gave him the right to bear arms.

[Anatoly Eliseev]

Execution is definitely the way to go for this scumbag!

[OlegEKB]

Execution is definitely the way to go for this scumbag!

and how will this help,
When you're going crazy, you don't think about the consequences anymore.

[fruc]

The medical commission declared him fit for military service. Could be a drug addict or something about the girl again. Well, that means he's sane and fit for investigation and subsequent actions. harsh Punishment. Not specified, contract soldier/conscript. Life imprisonment is the maximum sentence.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Anatoly Eliseev

Execution is definitely the way to go for this scumbag!

Well, you know perfectly well that no one is being shot. Then what's all the fuss about? Are you collecting upvotes?

[January]

Quote: Piramidon

Then what's all the fuss about? Are you just collecting upvotes?

Lots of people come here "to shout from their armored car." It's nice to feel uncompromising and principled. And then it's back to real life, selling stolen rations...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: alexboguslavski

There can be no justification for a soldier who opened fire on his own civilians. That's not why his homeland gave him the right to bear arms.

That would be true, but there is a nuance -

Authorities warn that Fake information may be leaked from Ukrainian sources, so please trust only official statements and avoid spreading rumors.

As I understand it, there have been no official statements on this matter yet, and the entire topic under discussion is currently based on this article, which, damn it, while calling for distrust of rumors, is based on those same rumors.
So, for now, we need to hold off on the execution and simply take the information into account and wait for its confirmation.

[alexboguslavski]

Quote: Nyrobsky

As far as I understand, there have been no official statements on this matter yet.

The Governor of Sevastopol, Razvozzhaev, is an official figure.

The Governor of Sevastopol reported this.

[APASUS]

Authorities warn that fake information is likely to be leaked from Ukrainian sources, and therefore ask people to trust only official statements and not spread rumors.

To prevent Ukrainian media from spreading rumors, press conferences with Ministry of Internal Affairs representatives must be held promptly. Otherwise, sometimes nothing is clear at all, and people believe anything because the government remains silent.

[alexboguslavski]

Quote: APASUS

It is necessary to promptly hold press conferences for representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Investigative secrecy and the law on personal data protection are obstacles.

[APASUS]

Quote: alexboguslavski

Investigative secrecy and the law on personal data protection are obstacles.

What's stopping us? What about informing citizens? Generally speaking, isn't it possible to do this without disclosing the data? After all, Ukrainians are more likely to be trusted if they remain silent.

[alexboguslavski]

We've already provided the general information. We've named the time, location, crime, and number of victims. Do you want to know the motive? This isn't a quick fix. A certain number of examinations will be ordered, including psychiatric ones, and that takes time.

[Panin (midshipman)]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: alexboguslavski

Investigative secrecy and the law on personal data protection are obstacles.

What's stopping us? What about informing citizens? Generally speaking, isn't it possible to do this without disclosing the data? After all, Ukrainians are more likely to be trusted if they remain silent.

Why should citizens even know about such incidents? Especially since Ukrainian rumors are impossible to verify.
Besides, what kind of event could have disrupted a soldier's mental state in Crimea, where there's no ground combat? A bad joke, hazing?

[Bayun]

The task of the media in the modern world is to irritate curious citizens and drive them crazy for the political and financial manipulation of the authorities and businessmen "by the masses".

The tone of voices, the pace of speech, the disturbing musical intros in blogs and on TV channels, everything is designed to deprive the viewer, reader, listener of MENTAL BALANCE, to force them to become nervous, angry, and lose their grasp of the reality of what is happening.

P.S.: To paraphrase the classic: "Don't watch (google) the WORLD MEDIA in the morning!" - But there are no others, are there? - Well, then, don't watch ANY of them.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: APASUS

To prevent Ukrainian media from spreading rumors, press conferences with Ministry of Internal Affairs representatives must be held promptly. Otherwise, sometimes nothing is clear at all, and people believe anything because the government remains silent.

The military prosecutor's office needs to sort this out. And his fellow soldiers need to know who this shooter is.

[Andrey K]

The Ministry of Internal Affairs has nothing to do with the investigation of emergency situations in military units.
This is the responsibility of military law enforcement agencies - the military police and the military prosecutor's office.

[matwey]

The Ministry of Internal Affairs has nothing to do with the investigation of emergency situations in military units.

Is a village really a military unit?

Then, in the village itself, he shot three civilians and wounded three more.

[Simargl]

Civilian matters do not apply to active military personnel.

[topol717]

To prevent Ukrainian media from spreading rumors, it is necessary to promptly hold press conferences with representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Who's going to believe what the Ministry of Internal Affairs says? And how can they say anything without conducting all the investigative steps? They have no right to accuse anyone. They can say we're conducting an investigation, which is what they said, but that's not enough for you.

[K9_SWAT]

Be careful! I got a warning from the site administration for saying something like that, specifically about the FSB!

[alexputnik17]

We are a modern democracy fighting against barbarians.

Somewhere I already heard it ...

Some of his sayings do not even border on, but directly correspond to the ideology of chauvinism.

This is not chauvinism... it is stupid and not covered... Nazism.
75 thousand killed Palestinian "barbaric" peaceful children, women and old people in such a short period of time is no lie!

[alexboguslavski]

There is a suspicion that you are lost and entered the wrong door.
From what I read, I understood that this is about Israel, Netanyahu and Palestine.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: alexboguslavski

There is a suspicion that you are lost and entered the wrong door.
From what I read, I understood that this is about Israel, Netanyahu and Palestine.

Exactly!
Like Philip Kirkorov.
Walked through the wrong door...

[YES UZH]

Exactly!
Like Philip Kirkorov.
Walked through the wrong door...

Well, the fillet is the same as the door, the hole is also a bisexual sadist.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Exactly!
Like Philip Kirkorov.
Walked through the wrong door

But in this situation, what surprises me is not so much the lost alexputnik17, but the "routine" like under his comment: on-topic or off-topic, it makes no difference.

[Gpn27]

The shooter was detained. Unfortunately, such cases have been and will continue. The human psyche is a delicate thing.

[alexboguslavski]

In Sevastopol, the FSB detained two Russians who, on orders from Ukrainian intelligence services, were preparing a terrorist attack against the head of one of the new regions while he was in Crimea.

The suspects were also planning explosions at critical infrastructure facilities. During a search, they were found to be in possession of three drones loaded with warheads, as well as an 800-gram explosive device.

[snow mountain]

He should be sent somewhere to the Western region. Let him shoot the pig-faced brethren there.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Schneeberg

He should be sent somewhere to the Western region. Let him shoot the pig-faced brethren there.

But here they didn’t write, or rather, they haven’t yet figured out who he is and why he started shooting.
Okay, comrades, this may be about hazing, but what about civilians, pensioners?!

[Simargl]

Hazing in the trenches?!
What do you mean? So that he shoots you in the back right there?

[Nastia makarova]

What trenches???? What are you talking about?

[Mazunga]

By the way, maybe it's a new Russian. I remember two new Russians were dumping ammunition on their fellow soldiers at the training ground for a long time.

[Free Island]

So I don't understand - is this fake or not?

[rocket757]

Unfortunately, this happens... to everyone.
The reasons vary, but for the most part they are mental disorders...

[tatarin1972]

PTSD? Or something else?

[alanery]

They recruited anyone they could find through ads, and now they're left to deal with the consequences! At our military school, they didn't even let everyone on guard duty...

[komandir8]

What a strange school it is if a future officer isn't trusted with weapons and isn't allowed to carry out combat missions to guard and defend battle flags, military and government facilities, or guard individuals held in guardhouses or disciplinary battalions...😉

[Mapping]

Can official reports be trusted?

[alexputnik17]

Quote: alexboguslavski

There is a suspicion that you are lost and entered the wrong door.
From what I read, I understood that this is about Israel, Netanyahu and Palestine.

There is a I myself don't understand how this happened

[John_Doe]

Military action, especially large-scale, protracted, and bloody ones, inevitably leads to increased levels of violence, radicalization, and criminalization in society.
Let's have some more...

[Vitaly_pvo]

Quote: John_Doe

Protracted and bloody conflicts inevitably lead to increased levels of violence, radicalization, and criminalization in society.

Nothing like this was observed during the war in Afghanistan. Moreover, there was no war in the 90s, yet there was so much bloodshed, violence, and terrorist attacks that the country nearly collapsed until the terrorist and extremist leaders were eliminated and their funding channels were shut down.
.

[John_Doe]

Nothing like this was observed during the war in Afghanistan.

— Are you sure? Or maybe the 90s are the consequence?))
And the scale, intensity conflict, scale of losses then and now are not able to compare?))

Moreover, in the 90s there was no war, but there was so much blood, violence and terrorist attacks that the country almost died until the leaders of the terrorists and extremists were eliminated and the funding channels were eliminated.

— So, can war alone be the cause of the increase in violence, radicalization, and criminalization of society?
Logic is not your thing.))

[faiver]

Nothing like this was observed during the war in Afghanistan.

- Oh really? Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen...

[Grossvater]

I've lost my mind. Unfortunately, it happens, and unfortunately, it can be unpredictable. I was talking about something similar with a neighbor at our dacha, a well-known psychiatrist in our area. Overall, only a lengthy, at least three-week, inpatient evaluation can provide a roughly 50% guarantee.

[faiver]

There's little information, there are a ton of options - drugs, alcohol, hazing, mental disorders...

[alexputnik17]

Quote: alexboguslavski

From what I read, I understood that this is about Israel, Netanyahu and Palestine.

It wasn't me who logged in. I figured VO somehow glitched. I copied the article text... twice.

[Totor5]

The death penalty is needed.
A life for a life - that's the only thing that's fair.

[Mapping]

Quote: Seal

Quote: YES

If you remember the incident at the Russian military base in Armenia, where a Russian Armed Forces soldier, a conscript, went AWOL and entered a house and killed an entire family with children.

Does it matter that Permyakov essentially said nothing? He was remarkably laconic during the trial: "I refuse to testify," "I plead guilty to everything," "I agree with any punishment."
Permyakov was born and lived in the city of Baley.
Baley is a city in the Zabaykalsky Krai of the Russian Federation. It is the administrative center of the Baleysky District. Yes, his father was a pastor at an evangelical church in Baley. He was not a Pentecostal.
Why, of all the houses he passed along the way, did Permyakov choose the Avetisyan house? Yes, this house had a flimsy wooden door, which the owner was planning to replace with a new iron one. And according to some relatives, the owner had allegedly even ordered it. Question: Perhaps, of course, Avetisyan decided to replace the old wooden door with a new iron one completely by chance. Or perhaps it was not by chance? Perhaps the elder Avetisyan was worried about something, since he decided to fortify the house? Another point. The Avetisyan family occupied only half of the house; their relative, Karine, lived in the other half, with a separate entrance.
Further quote:

"As Karine, who was sleeping next door, told me, she heard a noise and woke up, but thought it was an earthquake. Karine went outside, looked around, everything was quiet, and the woman returned home, and in the morning, she calmly went to work."

Early in the morning, 23 shots were heard outside the building. Karina thought it was an earthquake. https://am.sputniknews.ru/20160129/1791161.html
https://russia-armenia.info/node/34791
In my opinion, after an earthquake, any normal homeowner should walk around his house (even if he only owns half of the house) and make sure that the house is not in any danger.
Most likely, that's what Karine did. But the question is: why didn't she stop by her relatives' house instead of quickly running off to work? What did Karine see?
There was snow in Gyumri that night. Let's look at the weather report:

As of 10:00 a.m. on January 8, roads in Armenia are closed and impassable, the press service of the Ministry of Territorial Administration and Emergency Situations reported to Armenian News – NEWS.am. Specifically, the Selim Pass is closed due to a snowstorm. According to the ArmStateHydroMeteorological Center, snowfall is expected to continue throughout the day in most regions of the country.

By the way, it's much safer for a runner to simply put a lump of snow in his mouth and keep running. But he went into the house. Why? Was he really just "getting a drink of water"? And returning to the relative who owned the other half of the house. If this relative had actually walked around the house to assess its condition after what she thought was an earthquake, she couldn't have failed to notice the prints of soldiers' boots in the snow. Yes, maybe she hadn't walked around the house. But why? After all, she thought there had been an earthquake. Didn't it really occur to her to stop by her relatives' half, at least to make sure everything was okay? What a strange relationship, if she hadn't stopped by.
Well, what if the relative did go around the house? Maybe she saw something she shouldn't have? And quickly ran off to work.
At six in the morning, Permyakov left the murdered family's home. But he wasn't detained until midnight while attempting to cross the Armenian-Turkish border. How could a soldier, whose wanted posters had been posted to every outpost, have safely left the city? Where had he been hiding all this time? Deputy Commander of the Russian border detachment, Sergei Merzlikin, recalled his conversation with the accused immediately after his arrest at the border. Among the standard questions about where he'd been hiding all this time and where he'd hidden his weapons, the border guard, for some reason, decided to ask Permyakov if he'd eaten. "The taxi driver brought me three shawarmas and three Pepsi-Colas," the soldier allegedly said.
Who is this mysterious taxi driver?
https://www.mk.ru/social/2016/03/03/o-chem-molchit-palach-iz-gyumri-strashnye-tayny-ryadovogo-permyakova.html

It seems that in this matter not everything is so simple and clear.