New attacks on Ukraine's maritime logistics: dry cargo ships under attack

Russian troops continue to strike ports on the Black Sea coast, destroying Ukraine's transport infrastructure. Sunday, August 2, was no exception, according to the Ministry of Defense press service.

According to military reports, cargo ships were targeted this afternoon, both in the Black Sea and in ports. One port, Mykolaiv, was also hit, with our forces targeting port infrastructure; specific details are unavailable. Two bulk carriers, not yet ready for loading or unloading, were also hit in the port, as was another seagoing tugboat. It was also reportedly converted to launch unmanned boats.

Another cargo ship was intercepted en route to a Ukrainian port. Unlike last night, when cruise missiles were used missiles airborne and drones-kamikaze, during the day ours worked exclusively drones.

Previously, Ukrainian media outlets, citing military sources, reported that the primary weapons used to strike ports and cargo ships are Banderol cruise missiles and Geran-4 Seeker kamikaze drones. Both munitions are relatively inexpensive, yet boast excellent flight characteristics and range, and carry a warhead capable of destroying a naval vessel.

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[Fishmashin]

A naval blockade is the norm, next in line are land corridors with Gayropa.

[WILL]

Fine, sure, but apparently sinking ships isn't part of the plan? Otherwise, I just can't understand why they're not using anti-ship missiles, but instead are using drones?
To sink them, you need to use anti-ship missiles, torpedoes, and mines. Perhaps they're still just warning you.

[pudelartemon]

Drones are much cheaper than torpedoes and anti-ship missiles. A couple of drones on the bridge and a ship without controls or electronics. That's how naval experts explain it. There are also many former and current naval experts in the Navy. Give me a professional assessment.

[WILL]

It's definitely not a question of cost. Zircons are fired at ground targets, although any bulk carrier would likely sink. Mine torpedoes aren't that expensive. For me, there's only one explanation: there's no order to sink them! A drone could damage it, cause a fire, or possibly malfunction... but it could only sink it under a certain set of fortunate circumstances. I have no idea why they don't sink it!

[Atrina]

If all ships calling at Ukrainian ports are damaged, and occasionally, albeit very rarely, something is sunk, then the cost of ship insurance will skyrocket, or they will refuse to insure them altogether. And without insurance, ships won't sail.
There are enough drones to achieve this goal. Money triumphs over evil!

[Tagan]

I have no idea why they don’t heat it!

Three ships were sunk in July.

[Romeo]

They don't sink it because there are reasons for it. The sea is public, and no one needs pollution.
The ships' crews are international, and the loss of large numbers of citizens from sympathetic nations will cause us losses. Anti-ship missiles and torpedoes are truly disproportionately expensive to sink a bulk carrier. A strike on the bridge will typically cause a fire and destroy navigation equipment, communications equipment, the remote control system, and other critical automation. This will put the vessel out of action for a long time.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Romeo

They don't sink it because there are reasons for it. The sea is public, and no one needs pollution.
The ships' crews are international, and the loss of large numbers of citizens from sympathetic nations will cause us losses. Anti-ship missiles and torpedoes are truly disproportionately expensive to sink a bulk carrier. A strike on the bridge will typically cause a fire and destroy navigation equipment, communications equipment, the remote control system, and other critical automation. This will put the vessel out of action for a long time.

The most adequate answer. Otherwise, they start to explain why submarines don't go hunting for Ukrainian ships, why they don't fire torpedoes and anti-ship missiles... That's why!

Quote: Romeo

A strike on the bridge will typically cause a fire and destroy navigational equipment, communications equipment, the remote control system, and other critical automation. This will put the vessel out of action for a long time.

[Willy-V]

A disabled vessel can still be repaired. A sunken vessel is lost forever, or will require costly salvage and repairs that are incomparable to replacing (or repairing) the bridge equipment.
It is not difficult to guess which option will be more accessible for the ship owner.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Villy-V

A disabled vessel can still be repaired.

And the command staff on the bridge? Civilian navy sailors are dying. Who would want to go to sea to certain death? What money could entice long-distance captains and other command staff to the bridge? There isn't that kind of money.

[expert]

For submarine non-use time for their intended purpose (the use of torpedoes), so much money was "saved" that there was no more!

[fruc]

special attention was paid to cargo ships

I haven't heard how many of them sank to the bottom.

[Levinstein]

The strike must be aimed at the stern, under the tarpaulin, otherwise the propeller and steering system will fail, requiring months of repairs. The vessel won't sail without a tug. Former Captain. Although, there are no former ones.

[Marlin]

Our ships are hitting like that. It would be desirable, of course, to finish it off after that—to break through two or three pairs of adjacent swellings, and—with blisters.

[Motorist]

Quote: pudelartemon

A couple of drones on the bridge and a ship without controls or electronics.

They'll destroy the bridge, but the main engine controls (from the control center and from the station) and the steering gear (from the station) will still work—we can go for it. You need to hit the bottom of the transom (stern) or under the stern guard to damage the steering gear or jam the rudder stock.

[tsvetahaki]

Quote: pudelartemon

Drones are much cheaper than torpedoes.

Here's an interesting question: what are torpedoes and submarines for?
Because they are "more expensive" and need to be stored in warehouses?

[OSE4Kinsura]

To describe all of gayrope! Warehouses shouldn't be empty! And the Geikis are jumping right into the fire, from a very strong, stupid, brain-numbing urge (((they only have one! And they were all like their mother! And their mother was famous... (((Hotheads - quote

[interest]

I'm no expert, but off the top of my head, sinking a bulk carrier weighing tens of thousands of tons isn't all that easy. You'd have to hit the waterline, and not just one spot. You'd be lucky if it hit the engine room. And using drones would be a nightmare, except maybe on the bridge (which also yields decent results).

[S. Viktorovich]

Maybe they have mine arsenals, but they can’t use what they have.

[ssz]

The sea is public, and it will then drag dirt onto our beaches.

[Alexey Lantukh]

The sea is public, and it will then drag dirt onto our beaches.

First Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia, then Russia. Some will flow through the Bosphorus into the Mediterranean. These are the main currents, not taking into account strong winds.

[Alex Starley]

I assume the Oniks-M anti-ship missile costs more than a bulk carrier and its cargo. And we don't have many of those missiles anyway.

[Marlin]

An anti-ship missile costs a few multi-dollars, while a bulk carrier, even empty, costs tens of millions. Cargo costs hundreds of millions, and if it's a high-tech military ship, it can easily exceed billions.

[Anatoly Eliseev]

There are necessary goods there... you can't!

[navigator777]

Sinking, and haven't you considered the environmental consequences? Every vessel, even if it's not a tanker, carries hundreds of tons of diesel fuel, all of which will eventually wash up on the western coast of Crimea. And if it's a tanker carrying fuel oil, for example, it's even worse. Even if a drone damages the superstructure, the vessel is considered damaged, and any insurer will decline liability for it. It's already forbidden to sail on it.

[Alexey Lantukh]

everything will eventually wash up on the western coast of Crimea

First Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia, then Russia. Some will flow through the Bosphorus into the Mediterranean. These are the main currents, not taking into account strong winds.

[Dimon76]

The drone burns out the superstructure and engine room...and most likely the crew will get caught in the crossfire, you will be exhausted trying to restore it, you will have to cut everything down to zero and almost certainly cut off the superstructure.

[Nastia makarova]

Why heat it? Putting it out of service for six months is enough.

[pudelartemon]

The remarkable Beskydy Tunnel in the Carpathians awaits the continuation of the banquet and long-awaited guests from Russia.

[Napayz]

Will there be any use from the hypothetical "Geranium" if it explodes inside the tunnel?
If "yes", then launch several of them in sequence so that they explode at different depths of the tunnel.
After the renovation is almost finished, repeat it )))

[Alex Starley]

Well, Geranium can only be aimed into the tunnel via video using the operator's joystick; the signal won't get through. The only way to get through is to install a receiver on Geranium to receive the signal from the new Rassvet satellites, which might be coming soon.

[Napayz]

Is it even advisable to blow up a drone that can fly into a tunnel inside it?

[Buyan]

We wish all ships entering 404 7 feet above deck

[Roman 11]

Quote from Buyan

7 feet above deck

yeah, desires may not coincide
There is a strong suspicion that someone in the Kremlin towers is very pleased with the current situation, or the so-called new type of warfare - humane (our ships can be sunk, theirs are not) and I have almost no doubt that this someone, or their group, perhaps not able, but able to influence the course of military operations on our side, elementary blunders in the conduct of war have become too frequent

[Ovsigovets]

Dear Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and your press service)))) You don't have to explain to us that some ships have been converted to work with BEKs... We gave you the right in advance to sink and burn in pig fat-free everything you deem necessary... go ahead and sink and burn

[tralflot1832]

That's right, we're doing it. Drone-carrying tugs mean we'll kill them. It would be good to use an Iskander-M to breach the bulk carrier's hold from the hatch to the keel. But we need online aerial reconnaissance here. The 404s aren't stupid either; they don't stay in one place for long (the port of Nikolaev). Honestly, I didn't expect such agility from the 404s. They thought of turning the bulk carrier into a UAV base, and not just a base.

[Marlin]

It will be more effective to hit the ship with Onyx than with ballistics.

[Elephant]

Quote: Marlin

It will be more effective to hit the ship with Onyx than with ballistics.

And even more effective are the Backups. Those same Ukrainian soldiers use them quite successfully against both our navy and civilians.

[Marlin]

I agree, but the reaction time of the BEKs is longer than that of the anti-ship missiles. Perfect for finishing off.

[S. Viktorovich]

Ammunition is cheap and of little use. Either there's a naval blockade (like in the Sea of ​​Azov), or there isn't one. It's only on TV.

[Rockerman]

They damaged a bulk carrier carrying military cargo, albeit more than one. But they didn't sink it. The fire will be put out, the military cargo will be unloaded. I wouldn't call that a victory.

[Escobar]

The main thing is to submit a nice report to your boss about the work done, without focusing on the details and describing the result in a more colorful manner.

[Anatoly Eliseev]

More chatter! Where are the specifics? Was the toilet damaged or the ship sunk? Chatterbox@

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Anatoly Eliseev

More chatter! Where are the specifics? Was the toilet damaged or the ship sunk? Chatterbox@

In the navy, a toilet is a latrine, or latrine. That's just for landlubbers...

[Motorist]

Quote: 30 vis

In the navy, a toilet is a latrine, they call it a latrine.

And also a bathroom and toilet. In the civilian navy, at least.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: 30 vis

In the navy, a toilet is a latrine, they call it a latrine.

And also a bathroom and toilet. In the civilian navy, at least.

Is this what civilian navy sailors call a latrine?

[Motorist]

You know, it depends on the situation. A latrine is a public place after all. If there's only one per deck (which happens), or it's simply public (like the ship's engine room, bridge, etc.), then it's a latrine. A cabin toilet is private, and usually combined with a shower—a typical bathroom.

[Vadim S]

If they'd beaten us like that from the very first days, how many lives would have been saved! There are no words that are beyond the pale.

[Escobar]

If our military lacks the ability or desire to sink civilian transports, how do they plan to sink potential enemy ships if necessary? Or are they hoping it won't come to that, and maybe they'll get away with it?

[newtc7]

At this rate, Putin will soon wake up and be like, "Oh, why shouldn't I kill Zelensky?" Years go by, the war has been going on for half a decade, and they've even gotten around to firing on ships. Should I shout "Hurray?" I don't think it's worth it. It's worth remembering how many people would have been saved if they'd fought like human beings from day one, and not like some senile old fool, bound by his agreements with the global elite.

[Marlin]

It's time to move on to tactics to destroy Ukraine's "shadow fleet." Sinking ships calling at ports in that country, as well as the vessels of companies involved in such shipments.

[duschman80-81]

To the person reading this comment - have a good and successful day, my friend!