The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 28 May 2013

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Obama fired Miller. Not our Miller - God forbid! - and the American. Responsible for taxes. With a huge budget deficit, the United States is forced to cut spending and literally beat taxes from its citizens. At the same time, the largest corporations can afford to pay almost nothing at all.

The legendary American corporation General Electric, one of the largest in the world, as it turned out, does not pay taxes in the United States at all by building a business on offshore schemes. The New York Times found out after the appointment of Immelt's CEO as chairman of the Presidential Council on Employment and Competition, which, in fact, is intended to deal with corporate tax issues. Over the past 10 years, General Electric has spent 200 million dollars on lobbying at the state level. And in its tax department, which allows not only not to pay taxes in America, but also knock out billions in tax breaks, about a thousand people work.

Interestingly, the intimate details of the offshore management scheme of the mega-corporation were found out in the High Court of London during the court proceedings on the suit brought against her by Russian businessman Alexander Lebedev. And the essence of the claim is that the megacorporation just stole his aircraft.
The world's largest leasing company, GECAS, owned by General Electric, issued a loan to Lebedev for the purchase of Airbus for the German Blue Wings company owned by him. After the German regulator canceled the airline’s license under a false pretext, the lender was obliged to sell the planes and return to Lebedev the share due to him. Instead, the international giant put out absurd sums for repairing practically new aircraft, simply hid airplanes in different countries, and then sold them to itself at a fictitious auction, writing off the difference due to the Russian businessman for their fictitious repairs. By the way, according to the same scheme, the same GECAS spread Indian, Chinese and Pakistani airlines and even plucked Aeroflot.

By the way, when the Red Wings, which belonged to the same Lebedev, were covered in Russia, at least the planes were not stolen. We do not have such a "General Electric". The gut is thin.

When they tell us about the monstrous proportions of our corruption, when, allegedly, for Russian offshore companies we are significantly moistening Cyprus - by the way, the only one, probably, offshore, which General Electric did not use! We must be aware that our senior teachers have gone far ahead on this path. And we have achieved such perfection and legal precision in this system that we probably will never catch up with them. And do not be worth it.
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  1. +24
    29 May 2013 10: 06
    That's where corruption is !! and cut the budget on a global scale .. Our officials and oligarchs are yellow-handed chicks .. and this is just the tip of the iceberg ..
    1. +10
      29 May 2013 10: 43
      Guys, understand that people are people wherever they live and steal everywhere .. But you had to lower the Russians, so that’s why they raised it! After all, in Nazi Germany, under total control, they stole everything. And in the United States, corruption and theft are much higher than ours!
    2. +3
      29 May 2013 11: 04
      Quote: MIKHAN
      ... That's where corruption is !! and cut the budget on a global scale .. Our officials and oligarchs are yellow-handed chicks .. and this is just the tip of the iceberg ..

      Come on, is it corruption, some miserable 200-million, pah, a trifle.
      1. +1
        29 May 2013 11: 50
        Well, we found out that the "General's Electrician" does not pay taxes, and then WHAT ???
        But nothing. Balabol Obama will continue to twist his ears. Democracy, however.
      2. +3
        29 May 2013 14: 55
        Miserable 200 million?
        logistics in Iraq and Afghanistan is concentrated in the hands of private traders. The largest logistics firm responsible for trucking is a subsidiary of the oil giant Hulliberton. Shortly before the invasion of Iraq, the firm bought several thousand mothballed cars belonging to the US Army. Vice President Dick "2%" Cheney, who was the pre-2000 executive director of Halliburton, gave a "good" for the deal. It should be noted that I bought it at the price of scrap metal, not products.
        How many billions has a single official taken into account only in this situation, given that in an instant he became a monopolist in the system of ensuring the functioning of a belligerent army?
        After the invasion of Iraq, the main part of the pie, in the form of oil production concessions, was received by the same Halliburton, where the Cheney family and, in part, the Bushes, represent on the board of directors the spokesman Dick Lynn, who played the role of "consultant."

        If we analyze the topic of corruption and the phenomena associated with it "on the brink of a foul" in the United States, then our home-grown oligarchs begin to seem like pitiful burglars.
    3. +3
      29 May 2013 12: 13
      Quote: MIKHAN
      That's where corruption is !! and cut the budget on a global scale .. Our officials and oligarchs are yellow-handed chicks .. and this is just the tip of the iceberg ..

      This is where "our" non-systemists, headed by Navalny, must be sent to fight corruption and let all "Marsh" dregs and rallies be arranged there.
      1. 0
        30 May 2013 06: 10
        ABOUT! White-tape non-traditionalists had already appeared and immediately began to silently minus. And they can only yell or babble on the swamp.
    4. 0
      29 May 2013 22: 30
      Quote: MIKHAN
      That's where corruption is !! and cut the budget on a global scale ..


      It would be if the budget was global. And so just kidalovo and bred under the American wing. It’s necessary to deal with tamky guys like a cancerous tumor.
  2. fenix57
    +9
    29 May 2013 10: 14
    Bubble, world "boil" - RUSSIA will be able to bang this "bubble", only not to give up Syria and they will "burst". hi
    1. +20
      29 May 2013 10: 45
      Quote: fenix57
      only Syria does not give

      You have a gift from me!

      Personal protest.

      Ah bourgeois well-fed
      Unshaved fagots
      What are you doing with Syria
      Take you to dust!

      You yourself will soon
      Harknet with your blood!
      Arabs will slaughter you
      Three years later!

      C and fat
      Chopped into sausages you
      So you all need
      Nits-ghouls !!!

      Dear moderators, I’m in advance sorry before you and our entire friendly Internet community for the unbridled syllable and curses!
      Well, it just so happened!
      1. +4
        29 May 2013 11: 22
        Super good I am sure it will be so.
    2. 0
      29 May 2013 23: 10
      Today, when voting in the UN HRO for Syria - RF abstained... Against only Venezuela. And you say it will burst.
  3. +11
    29 May 2013 10: 22
    Quote- We must be aware that our senior teachers have gone far along this path. And they reached such perfection and legal perfection in this system that we probably would never catch them. And do not compete.

    and I think that for the oligarchs, the concept of national identity and patriotism does not exist. They do not care where to cut money at home or somewhere else. The main God is money. More than sure that they exchange experiences and improve methods of money laundering. If I write that, working in conjunction in my opinion will not be a big secret.What becomes public is the visible part of the iceberg. And how many secrets are hidden behind seven seals and from prying eyes.So I’m still ready to argue with Mikhail Leontyev about what, where and how.
  4. +11
    29 May 2013 10: 28
    A telegram came to the site from the States!
    Dismissed Miller OBAMA!
    Broke me cold sweat
    Well, never mind compote!

    But calmed down by drinking water from the tap
    I understood that OBAMA is right!
    He didn’t fire ours, that in Gaz-prom
    And his, for the fact that all the taxes in the pope !!!

    Interestingly landing business will end?
    1. +5
      29 May 2013 12: 16
      Quote: Arberes

      Interestingly landing business will end?

      Yeah. Obama will be imprisoned. laughing
  5. Pit
    Pit
    +4
    29 May 2013 10: 29
    Cool, this is a swing, it's hard to imagine what
    And they shout that we have corruption, cuts, theft.
  6. +10
    29 May 2013 10: 33
    Who would doubt the "decency" of the Anglo-Saxons fool

    But Lebedev and rats like him, who plundered the country, somehow do not mind.
    After kidnyak, something did not notice him with a hat on the porch ...
  7. waisson
    +1
    29 May 2013 10: 40
    so he needs it. God sees the helm. with whom he was seduced and ran into it.
  8. +4
    29 May 2013 10: 44
    The market, at the current stage of development, becomes a threat to statehood, regardless of territorial affiliation. Therefore, a country that can curb and control the natural "super-greed" of its corporations will ensure stable development for itself.
    The funny thing is that our corporations cannot be allowed to play on their field according to their rules (in terms of the desire to throw), because double standards will surely return to their homeland. But to play with "open visor" you need a tough grip and, unfortunately, ours work out this grip on us.
  9. +2
    29 May 2013 10: 53
    Yes, our officials are certainly children in comparison with them, but, as I see, they are trying desperately to catch up with them)))
  10. +4
    29 May 2013 11: 00
    Corruption in the United States is outrageous. But she is far away. Look at "our" corruption: the stolen millions are not enough for them, billions give it! Look at the affairs at the Department of Defense. And the most offensive thing is, after all, they will "wash off" all accusations ...
  11. 0
    29 May 2013 11: 02
    ... at the suit of her Russian businessman Alexander Lebedev ...

    Ay, yes Lebedea, oh yes ..... son, let them know how to steal planes ..
  12. pahom54
    +2
    29 May 2013 11: 04
    Yatak understood from the comments: if poor Lebedev didn’t crack his money in foreign countries, but would give it to his corruption-generators, would he have suffered much smaller losses ?? Well, then everything is correct, so they, the racial races, must be taught. Let their grandmothers work for their country, and not for strangers.
  13. +4
    29 May 2013 11: 37
    I just can't understand our rulers. Russia was dragged into a cheating game like a lousy passenger was dragged into playing by hardened "fellow travelers". The result is known in advance. it is enough to pile up the events about which we know (and how many we do not know !!). In this regard, Putin's position as a sovereign is seriously weakening, especially given his active pushing Russia into the WTO.
    They will throw and rob us, and the bureaucratic state created by him will turn a blind eye to this robbery and, if possible, merge everything that can be rolled back. They cannot do otherwise.
  14. +4
    29 May 2013 11: 44
    Everyone wants to take our minds to the hill, that’s where corruption is, they say that we steal like little things, but the Americans steal and leave money in their own country, and our mean-spirited people take out tons to the hill, and with impunity
  15. +3
    29 May 2013 12: 01
    The funny thing is ... it turns out that only Soviet legislation was anti-corruption and prevented the theft of the budget ... all the tricks of embezzlement and fraud work on Western schemes legalized in Russia.
  16. +2
    29 May 2013 12: 15
    Our corruption scares us with its suction cups to the budget of Russia.

    When you get acquainted with the Western financial mechanism, you realize that the forked tentacles of "SPRUT"their economies are generally a system and the way capitalism exists.
  17. +3
    29 May 2013 12: 29
    Yeah. General Electric is generally a specific corporation. She is actively promoting nuclear power plants like the one that exploded in Fukushima. And even after that, when, in fact, the reactor was recognized as "raw" (the reactor was removed from the nuclear submarine and redesigned - enlarged), they, through political pressure, are trying to push through exactly the same nuclear power plant projects in other countries. "Japan - Japan, radiation - radiation, and loot should be cooked in any way" - probably the unspoken motto of General Electriclol
    1. +1
      29 May 2013 15: 19
      In addition to your post laughing
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  19. +3
    29 May 2013 12: 53
    And they reached such perfection and legal perfection in this system that we probably would never catch them.

    Apparently, it’s time for our thieves to set up and start issuing coupons for enhanced nutrition at home. It turns out to be very honest.
    And about legal refinement, why do we need it when we can steal billions and still walk in eternal witnesses?
  20. +3
    29 May 2013 13: 25
    In principle, I'm not particularly interested in how General Electric steals.
    Much more interesting is how Mordashov's Power Machines are being stolen.
    1. +3
      29 May 2013 13: 31
      Quote: baltika-18
      baltika-18 (2) SU Today, 13:25 New

      In principle, I'm not particularly interested in how General Electric steals.
      Much more interesting is how Mordashov's Power Machines are being stolen.

      They steal everything with the approval of the authorities, don’t you believe? look at the budget. Everything is poured into offshore. I wonder in what offshore are billions of dollars, euros, pounds of our prime minister and president? who will be able to report?
      1. Don
        -1
        29 May 2013 13: 37
        Quote: valokordin
        They steal everything with the approval of the authorities, don’t you believe? look at the budget.

        Looked and what?
        Quote: valokordin
        Everything is poured into offshore

        What all? All money from the budget? Do not grind nonsense.
  21. 0
    29 May 2013 13: 48
    Such an article is an excuse for large-scale theft and bribery in Russia. I, like many other honest people, are deep in the drum, as they steal from behind a hill. Maybe it's time in my own country to bring order to this matter ...
  22. Vtel
    +2
    29 May 2013 14: 25
    Obama fired Miller. Not our Miller - God forbid! - and American.

    What a pity he probably had the right to dismiss both of ours, too. Wherever you look at power, you can’t see your native Russian face, but it would not be bad.
  23. lexe
    0
    29 May 2013 14: 54
    Corruption at the top is now a difficult phenomenon. Do you think that in the US budget articles will be written in black and white for all bribes \ arms purchases to rebels \ hidden financing of research \ etc ??? This is 2 budget!) Yes, yachts / cars of course will be bought not without this, but this is such a trifle.
    And this second, hidden budget, they have a lot ... there is a lot of work in the world. Well, they put it in the wrong place (maybe not that))) Obama did the money and the guarantor after all)
  24. +4
    29 May 2013 15: 41
    [quote] When we are told about the monstrous extent of our corruption, [/ quote]
    This is where the dog "rummaged" All Leontief's sarcasm and pathos in relation to "General Electric" Just to justify our dear, Putin-cherished corruption. They say that you are indignant;
    [quote] [our senior teachers have gone a long way along this path. / quote]
    Well done, Michael! - confessed who the teachers are from our corrupt officials, and therefore from our rulers.
    [quote] we probably will never catch them. And do not compete. [/ Quote]
    No false modesty. Pupils are superior to their teachers, just give a time limit. We will catch up and overtake, if not already.
    Leontiev is wasting his talent and our time only in vain. The President has already explained everything. To the question "when they will bring corrupt officials to justice" there was a wonderful answer - "corruption is everywhere." Probably this is a good reason not to imprison your own people.
  25. +1
    29 May 2013 17: 54
    It is necessary to be allowed to work in the country only to those undertakings that companies that pay taxes in the country work in which.
  26. +1
    29 May 2013 19: 48
    Maybe now liberals will discover America for themselves. For me it was already clear after Haliburton, who received a contract to restore the Iraqi oil industry. And this was struck by Dick Cheney, vice president of the United States who is one of the co-owners of this company.
  27. +1
    29 May 2013 21: 30
    Whose yacht is steeper
    The Russian edition of Forbes magazine in the last issue told what Russian billionaires prefer to go to sea.
    23-05-2013
    The Russian edition of Forbes magazine in the last issue told what Russian billionaires prefer to go to sea. Perhaps, journalists turned to this topic after the news that Roman Abramovich is no longer the owner of the largest private yacht in the world. According to the length of the hull (this indicator is used to assess the “coolness” of modern yachts), the famous Eclipse, owned by the owner of the Chelsea football club, recently lost to the Azzam, launched in April this year from a shipyard in Bremen, Germany.
    Other Russian billionaires are not particularly trying to compete with Roman Abramovich, but it is clear that for other wealthy Russians, yachts are not so much a means of transportation as an indicator of status.
    Russian billionaires prefer to relax at sea on yachts built in German (8 ships) and Dutch (4 ships) shipyards. Another ship was created in Italy and Croatia. The most popular shipbuilding companies among Russian businessmen are German Lurssen and Blohm + Voss, each of which built three yachts for billionaires.
    Lurssen Werft specializes in the construction of warships and special purpose ships, however, the shipyard also built many luxury motor and sailing yachts. So, it was Lurssen who, in the first ten days of April of this year, launched the very Azzam yacht that had lost its nose to Abramovich on the water of the Weser River.
    The shipbuilding company Blohm + Voss GmbH has existed since 1877. Now it is a division of the ThyssenKrupp concern. In the past, it built military ships, submarines and aircraft for naval aviation. Now the company is engaged in the construction of megayachts and produces ships for various purposes (military, commercial and passenger).
    Blohm + Voss built Eclipse for Roman Abramovich, and this project nearly ruined the German shipyard. According to rumors, the actual expenses for the construction of the 162,5-meter yacht amounted to almost three times more than what was written in the contract, but shipbuilders had to cover the shortage out of pocket because the oligarch did not want to pay more than agreed.
    Eclipse (length - 162,5 m, 9 decks, displacement 13 thousand tons, crew of 70 people) is not the longest yacht in the world, but still one of the most luxurious and protected in the world. The ship has two helipads, there are 4 pleasure boats, 20 scooters and a mini-submarine with 12 seats. The main cabin has an area of ​​500 sq. m, the owner’s personal deck is 56 m long, it also has a wine cellar and a cinema. The yacht is equipped with bullet-proof glass, a missile attack warning system, as well as special photosensors that capture and distort digital photography by extraneous photography - this is a means of combating paparazzi.
    The main feature of the Luna yacht, also owned by Abramovich, is its ability to sail in almost any weather and climate conditions: from the tropical seas to the Arctic and Antarctic. This ship is much more modest in size than the famous Eclipse, but it was also built specifically for Abramovich and his requests: two helipads, a communications tower and an impressive pool.
    The founder of Metalloinvest Alisher Usmanov, the leader in the lists of the richest people in Russia and the UK, has an 110-meter vessel Dilbar. Such maritime transport in the market is valued at more than 200 million euros. The ship Alisher Usmanov named after his mother.
    The yacht with the laconic name A belongs to Andrey Melnichenko and has, probably, the most avant-garde design among all the luxury vessels of Russian billionaires. Outwardly, it resembles a submarine rather than a yacht. The main cabin, in which owner A travels, has an area of ​​240 sq. m, the windows are equipped with 44-mm glasses that can withstand the explosion of a grenade.
  28. +1
    29 May 2013 21: 30
    Whose yacht is steeper
    The Russian edition of Forbes magazine in the last issue told what Russian billionaires prefer to go to sea.
    23-05-2013
    The Russian edition of Forbes magazine in the last issue told what Russian billionaires prefer to go to sea. Perhaps, journalists turned to this topic after the news that Roman Abramovich is no longer the owner of the largest private yacht in the world. According to the length of the hull (this indicator is used to assess the “coolness” of modern yachts), the famous Eclipse, owned by the owner of the Chelsea football club, recently lost to the Azzam, launched in April this year from a shipyard in Bremen, Germany.
    Other Russian billionaires are not particularly trying to compete with Roman Abramovich, but it is clear that for other wealthy Russians, yachts are not so much a means of transportation as an indicator of status.
    Russian billionaires prefer to relax at sea on yachts built in German (8 ships) and Dutch (4 ships) shipyards. Another ship was created in Italy and Croatia. The most popular shipbuilding companies among Russian businessmen are German Lurssen and Blohm + Voss, each of which built three yachts for billionaires.
    Lurssen Werft specializes in the construction of warships and special purpose ships, however, the shipyard also built many luxury motor and sailing yachts. So, it was Lurssen who, in the first ten days of April of this year, launched the very Azzam yacht that had lost its nose to Abramovich on the water of the Weser River.
    The shipbuilding company Blohm + Voss GmbH has existed since 1877. Now it is a division of the ThyssenKrupp concern. In the past, it built military ships, submarines and aircraft for naval aviation. Now the company is engaged in the construction of megayachts and produces ships for various purposes (military, commercial and passenger).
    Blohm + Voss built Eclipse for Roman Abramovich, and this project nearly ruined the German shipyard. According to rumors, the actual expenses for the construction of the 162,5-meter yacht amounted to almost three times more than what was written in the contract, but shipbuilders had to cover the shortage out of pocket because the oligarch did not want to pay more than agreed.
    Eclipse (length - 162,5 m, 9 decks, displacement 13 thousand tons, crew of 70 people) is not the longest yacht in the world, but still one of the most luxurious and protected in the world. The ship has two helipads, there are 4 pleasure boats, 20 scooters and a mini-submarine with 12 seats. The main cabin has an area of ​​500 sq. m, the owner’s personal deck is 56 m long, it also has a wine cellar and a cinema. The yacht is equipped with bullet-proof glass, a missile attack warning system, as well as special photosensors that capture and distort digital photography by extraneous photography - this is a means of combating paparazzi.
    The main feature of the Luna yacht, also owned by Abramovich, is its ability to sail in almost any weather and climate conditions: from the tropical seas to the Arctic and Antarctic. This ship is much more modest in size than the famous Eclipse, but it was also built specifically for Abramovich and his requests: two helipads, a communications tower and an impressive pool.
    The founder of Metalloinvest Alisher Usmanov, the leader in the lists of the richest people in Russia and the UK, has an 110-meter vessel Dilbar. Such maritime transport in the market is valued at more than 200 million euros. The ship Alisher Usmanov named after his mother.
    The yacht with the laconic name A belongs to Andrey Melnichenko and has, probably, the most avant-garde design among all the luxury vessels of Russian billionaires. Outwardly, it resembles a submarine rather than a yacht. The main cabin, in which owner A travels, has an area of ​​240 sq. m, the windows are equipped with 44-mm glasses that can withstand the explosion of a grenade.
  29. 0
    29 May 2013 21: 32
    The yacht of Vladimir Potanin was named after the daughter of a billionaire - Anastasia. Anastasia has seven decks and six cabins, it can accommodate 12 guests and 20 crew members. In the summer of 2012, Anastasia was put up for sale by Edmiston & Company for 125 million euros. But the buyer for the yacht, apparently, has not yet been found.
    When Mikhail Prokhorov in the 2009 year gave an interview to the American television channel CBS in his mansion, among other things, he showed the correspondent and the model of his yacht. “I am not an avid traveler, as, frankly, I suffer from seasickness. I use it as a platform for jet skis, it is great for jumping, etc., ”said Prokhorov. According to the entrepreneur, he uses the yacht two weeks a year. Where she is now, Prokhorov does not know: “Somewhere in the port. I have people in charge of the ship. ”
    The yacht has 8 cabins, equipped with the latest technology, and is designed for 16 guests. It contains a complete set of equipment for water sports, which its owner loves so much.
    The second yacht owned by Prokhorov is called Solemar. This is a much more modest ship than the Palladium. She is older by 7 years and shorter by 34,5 m. Nevertheless, like in Palladium, Solemar has everything you need for outdoor activities: from surfboards to jet skis. 12 guests and 16 crew members can accommodate on it. On the yacht 7 cabins, a jacuzzi and a sports hall. In the 2011 year, it was modernized.
    Iskander Makhmudov (Transmashholding, Kuzbassrazrezugol, Transgroup) owns the Predator yacht. Its main advantage, in addition to the original design, is its engines - four 5793 diesel engines. each, providing her speed in 28 knots even in extreme weather conditions, which justifies her name, which translates as "Predator". The vessel is designed for 6 guests, which can accommodate in 3 double cabins. The yacht also has a master’s cabin, but its characteristics are unknown.
    Oleg Deripaska completely repaired his Queen K yacht (previously called Queen M) in 2007 and converted it for himself (the previous owner, whose name was unknown, rented it to the charter), even the hull was repainted from white to steel gray. It has a tonnage of 2157 tons, a range of 5000 miles, two diesel engines with an output of 3152 hp. each and crew consisting of 21 people.
    One of the main shareholders of Uralkali, Suleiman Kerimov (20 place) owns two yachts: the 90 meter Ice, which costs about 150 million dollars, and the 37 meter Millenium worth 8,9 million euros. The Ice yacht was built by order of Suleiman Kerimov in the 2005 year and was modernized in the 2008 year. She can take on board 14 guests and 27 crew members. In the summer of 2012, the yacht acted in an unusual role - as a rescue vessel, helping out unsuccessful divers from the misfortune off the coast of Mexico.
    The second yacht of Suleiman Kerimov is almost three times smaller than his first yacht. However, the size in this case plays a completely secondary importance, because its main advantage is speed. Millenium develops maximum speed in the 31 unit due to two diesel engines with 3700 horsepower. each. She can receive 8 guests and 5 crew members.
  30. +1
    29 May 2013 21: 35
    Alexander Abramov’s 777 yacht can accept 12 guests and 18 crew members. Its displacement is 1393 tons. The main cabin has a separate study and library. Also on the yacht there is a bar, a cinema, a jacuzzi and a gym. The yacht is currently for sale.
    However, the fastest yacht among all the ships of Russian billionaires is Blade, owned by Oleg Boyko. It has two 1925 hp diesel engines. each, which allow her to develop maximum speed in 36 nodes. She can take on board 10 guests and 8 crew members, all on her 5 cabins.

    However, our poor oligarchs live well. I am not against yachts if the money for them is earned by honest labor, and not stolen from us, from the people.
  31. +2
    30 May 2013 04: 01
    Yes, the simplicity of Russian businessmen who believe in a Western paradise is worse than theft ...