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Non-Russian Non-EmpireAnswer to Mikhail Leontyev about the "danger of turning Russia into a nation-state" ...


How do you think, dear readers, how could it happen that the father and son of Kadyrov moved during the Second Chechen War from the separatist camp, the Basayev-Maskhadovs, etc. (in which they were known to be during the First War), to the side Russia? This question, in fact, is not at all private, concerning not only Chechnya and Chechens. The answer to it will clarify a lot to us.

Option one, that Akhmat and his son Ramzan initially experienced warm, friendly feelings towards the Russian people, Russia, considered it their homeland, etc., please do not offer. I am afraid that even some official propagandists of multiculturalism and tolerance, if they sound such versions, do not really believe in them. Option two, especially beloved by both Caucasian Wahhabis and Moscow liberals, that the evil KGB officer Putin simply bought them for the money of Russian taxpayers, please also reject. For money, it happens that they are killed, but for the sake of them it is almost impossible to make them die. They die only for what they really think is right. The argument about material motives can be discussed for a long time, but I think it is clear to a non-prejudiced observer that it’s not about the money or at least not about it alone.

To look into another person’s soul, of course, we cannot, however, suggest what the answer to our question should be wrong, in fact, difficult. It seems that the essence is as follows: Russia was able to offer three things to Chechnya.

The first is, oddly enough, justice. Not abstract justice in general, but its larger volume compared to what others have proposed. These very others, the “guests” from the countries of the Arab world and their sponsors, viewed the Chechens only as raw materials for the continuation of the war with Russia, in fact - cannon fodder. Before any needs of the people there, their aspirations, as well as the lives of its individual representatives, they did not care. Young Chechens are killed during the “jihad” against the Russians - well, not killed - bad. You can not - teach, do not want - make. The most competent and responsible representatives of the people (and the same Akhmat Kadyrov was, as you know, the mufti of Chechnya) had time to consider this situation well in the years after the first war.

The second thing Russia offered to Chechnya was protection. Protection, first of all, against external forces, which considered traditional Islam, professed by the Chechens, as something that needs to be corrected and brought to a common Wahhabi denominator. As we know, with those religious leaders who uphold traditional Islam in Russia, the Wahhabis have a short conversation. In this sense, of course, Akhmat and Ramzan Kadyrov entered into this struggle for their faith for their own reasons unrelated to Russia. However, to lead her alone, without her help, they could hardly have done so.

And finally, the third thing that Russia, to some extent, gave Chechnya, was, surprisingly, a civilization. For the Russian ear, accustomed to self-flagellation and continuous spitting from the outside, this sounds a bit strange in our time. What other such civilization can we bring to someone? We ourselves have it not. One theft, kickbacks, cuts and Chubais. Nevertheless, the possibility of building factories and skyscrapers in Chechnya, instead of digging in the land of zindans and business on hostages, was provided by Russia. And let them say that this is just a flood of money, a tribute that Moscow is paying to Kadyrov, and so on. Anyway. The fact remains. Neither the monarchies of the Persian Gulf, stuffed up to the neck with money, nor the very wealthy “friends” from Europe and America, did not give money to Maskhadov’s skyscrapers. But on zindans, shahid belts and mercenaries - please.

In this example, we visually observe the mechanism for the preservation and expansion of the Empire, since it has operated for long centuries. Russia, pushing its borders for thousands of kilometers, in fact very rarely won anyone. Such conquests "head on" in our stories can be counted on the fingers. In all other cases, the Empire, first, offered protection from an external conqueror, whose coexistence was often unbearable, as, for example, in cases of Polish oppression in Ukraine or the tragic fate of Armenia and Georgia under the rule of the Ottomans. Secondly, the Empire offered justice, abolishing the arbitrariness of the local tribal elite, which, by the way, often gets along remarkably well with the external conqueror on the basis of the plunder of its own population. So it was, for example, with the Little Russian gentry who had converted to Catholicism in the seventeenth century (which differs little from today's “European-integrating” Party of Regions of Ukraine). Finally, the Empire carried civilization, building railways where people rode horses or camels yesterday, creating a system of education, health, and much more.

And now the question. How does this mechanism of expansion and reproduction of the Empire feel today? Does it still work or is it broken?

How are things going with the defense of oppressed and oppressed peoples? Can Russia provide it?

The answer is simple. In many Russian autonomies, the population of a non-titular nationality is oppressed. Moreover, these are not only Russians, but also nations that are in the minority in “complex” autonomous formations like Kabardino-Balkaria or Karachay-Cherkessia. In the same Chechnya, where there was a war, as in Ingushetia, where there was no war, the Russian population was subjected to genocide. Massacre happened. Today the Russians are driven into such a position that they have turned out to be practically incapable of protecting themselves, not to mention other nations.

Is the Russian state able to ensure justice in general and resist the arbitrariness of the local tribal elite in particular? The question is rhetorical. There is no firm order and fair trial today even in the most indigenous Russia. The notions of good and evil, characteristic of our people, were trampled under the destruction of the state and “economic reforms”. On both sides at the same time, kleptocrats from Moscow and migrants from the suburbs, with impunity, carry their ideas of "good and justice" in the country. “If I stole, it’s good; if you steal from me, it's evil.” "If I slaughtered a representative of a neighboring tribe, it is good, if he is evil to me." Today’s Russia is not able to eliminate the arbitrariness and the “right of the strong” neither in autonomies, nor within itself. Where the law established by the imperial people stops working, wild, primitive "concepts" return.

How are things in Russia with civilization? Can she today guarantee her blessings for herself and carry them to others?

The economy, by and large, comes down to the export of raw materials and the import of finished products. Popular culture - to "House-2". Education under the guidance of the Minister Livanova degrades. The country stopped flying on its airplanes, and the skyscrapers we build the Turks and the Chinese. All those responsible for the current state of our civilization, including two key figures, Gorbachev and Chubais, still feel dry and comfortable.

So what about the Russian "imperial"?

This is probably a rough comparison, but if you are impotent, you should not go in search of brides. You will find yourself unnecessary, and you, in fact, no one is needed. This, in fact, is somehow understood by everyone, but rarely does anyone say it out loud. Supporters of the imperial policy are afraid to admit its current failure, opponents do not want to talk about the losses incurred by a country that has ceased to be an imperial state.

What do people expect from Russia, both inside the country and in the near abroad?

First, protection from external enemies and their allies. This number includes the “comrade wolf” from the Washington Regional Committee, and the oil sheikhs - sponsors of terrorism, and their allies such as high-ranking “marsh” liberals, Wahhabis, various local Russophobes, juvenile and blue NGOs, etc. Can Russia guarantee protection from them, at least within their borders? Ask those Russian people who are leaving the North Caucasus today under the pressure of local nationalism and imported Wahhabism. Ask those who have an implanted juvenile justice system from the outside begins to “withdraw” children. Can the state protect them, does it want?

The second is justice. The elimination of the power of all sorts of khans, bayis and hetmans and the lawlessness generated by this multicolor feudalism, the restoration of the rule of law over the entire territory of the country. No multiculturalism, democracy and “self-government”, when every local feudal lord with impunity creates everything he wants, no one needs for a long time. This "good" so in prosperity at all. Today, the exact opposite is claimed. The problem is only one. If you have arbitrariness, then to someone else you can not bring anything else. As long as the thievish perestroika boyars, chosen by the way, conceived on the same tribal principle, continue their carefree life in Moscow, nothing will change in this regard. The more Russia produces oligarchic obschechechevekov to live in London, the less attractive it becomes for everyone else.

And finally, the third point, civilization. If you have industry, education, health care, science, etc., are degrading, you will not be able to ensure their achievements either for yourself or bring it to someone else.

The Russian imperial mechanism with a great creak but still turns occasionally some more, as happened in the case of Chechnya. However, this happens less and less, and the costs of this process are increasing. Costs, above all, for the Russian people. An empire that provides neither protection, nor justice, nor civilization becomes useless to anyone and ceases to be an empire.
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  1. zart_arn
    zart_arn 29 May 2013 07: 49 New
    +6
    For money, it happens, they kill, but for their sake it is almost impossible to make them die.

    Here the choice was clear - either 100% death with scanty money, or its small probability with a sea of ​​money.
    1. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 29 May 2013 08: 15 New
      16
      Grandmothers are involved, it’s clear to the idiot, and grandmothers are “probable” friends. And Chechens, as they were a headache for Russia, will remain. Sight-exhale ........!.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 29 May 2013 10: 45 New
        19
        As for the destruction of the Chechens as a nation I agree ....
        The point here is not the correct aiming, you need to see the essence ..., and the article by the publicist about particulars)))
        I will offer my(correct)) version ...
        We remember that Akhmat said, “kill the Russians as much as you can,” they destroyed him for this (since this does not say goodbye and the Way will not protect him))
        By the way, like Ramzan .... (no one can protect))))
        It's all about justice and the ADEQUATE perception of the WORLD (the surrounding))
        Chechens killed teachers (Russian women)) by cutting them with a chainsaw ... someone seriously thinks that they need a "civilization" (Medvedev and Putin do not count)))

        Behind their growth and injections (in Chechnya)) there is an interest about which it is not customary to talk about ... There is such an entrepreneur Misha Gutsiriev, Shishkhanov (a Chechen) revolves around him) Baloev (Putin's confidant)) "animals" ride pistons ( kaenakh)) in Moscow (like in Aul)) .... and you start talking to them, find out the ins and outs, it turns out about 6 months ago he grazed sheep near Khasavyurt)))

        Chechens run around Moscow and gilded "Stechkins" live under the wing of the Jews in the school "Momonda" and serve mommon ... (there is such a god)))
        Berlazar is his great-priest on the territory of Russia and
        Advisor in the Kremlin)))

        Chechens as cards have already begun to be played ... Recall Boston, these are the first cards (tsarnaevs, Ibrahim Todashev ..)) Something went wrong as intended ...
        and while everything was slowed down))))

        Well, other (significant)) figures will be brought to the altar, well, as an example, Gutsiriev ... (for some reason, they are raising this "cow")))
        So we look and read articles))) it will be interesting .....
        1. Su24
          Su24 29 May 2013 13: 51 New
          +9
          Asgard, are you stoned? It is almost impossible to understand what you wrote, the meaning is completely fragmented. And why so many brackets ??
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta 29 May 2013 14: 02 New
            -4
            Quote: Su24
            Asgard, are you stoned? It is almost impossible to understand what you wrote, the meaning is completely fragmented. And why so many brackets ??

            I specially read his opuses in various topics, indha will write such a mess to the little one, at least stand at least fall laughing
            1. Asgard
              Asgard 29 May 2013 15: 14 New
              -3
              I love you all too)))
              Quote: Su24
              Asgard, are you stoned? It is almost impossible to understand what you wrote, the meaning is completely fragmented. And why so many brackets ??


              brackets, dots are punctuation marks, their number indicates the time for mastering the previous meaning (brackets also indicate sarcasm)
              try to read, my “OPUSES” DO NOT HURRY, with feeling, really, with arrangement .... and you will discover the “deep” meaning of what is written.
              Here john3volta sometimes expresses stupid thoughts, and I even +, but through the comment how to replace him ??? it feels like to sit on the still “unrefined" chair ANOTHER (being))) and the stream of consciousness rushes towards the "skulls" .....
              Read carefully, without rushing, these little letters and words are arranged in the correct order- (after some time)) THEY ORGANIZE your Brain ....
              After all, information is transmitted not only by sounds, but also by "silence" (MKHAT pauses))
              People communicate like this .... strive to be PEOPLE.(with a capital letter and in each letter))) oh ... tautology (sorry)))
              1. Karabu
                Karabu 29 May 2013 19: 33 New
                +5
                Russia is in deep decline. it’s even funny to hear about the notorious getting up from one’s knees. all non-humans take advantage of our weakness. the same Caucasians as in a conquered country, do what they want. try not to give? again terrorist attacks across the country, rivers of blood. new Caucasian war
                1. Don
                  Don 4 June 2013 13: 05 New
                  0
                  Quote: Karabu
                  Russia is in deep decline. it’s even funny to hear about the notorious getting up from one’s knees.

                  In deep decline your brain or you are blind. Not able to compare the economic performance of the 90s today? Read at least something before carrying nonsense. Not even able to see the increased standard of living of the population. About Caucasians sang, so, and that little Russians are strange or Tatars. Open your eyes.
              2. sanyabasik
                sanyabasik 30 May 2013 10: 14 New
                -1
                Quote: Asgard
                Here john3volta sometimes expresses stupid thoughts and I even +, but through the commentary how is it replaced ??? it feels like to sit on the still “unrefined" chair ANOTHER (being))) and the stream of consciousness rushes towards the "skulls" .....


                He himself wrote that ".. Putin’s Troll, one comment of 85 rubles" means a whole team of idiots sitting and scribbling, judging by the number of comments ..
          2. Zhzhuk
            Zhzhuk 29 May 2013 14: 15 New
            +7
            I saw this appeal, the Chechens were told that they had been repressed throughout history, and it was intentionally pitted and I’m sure that they knew perfectly well what was happening upstairs,
            The situation in Syria is supposedly unfortunate, let us help you, in the end we used it as cannon fodder, And in my opinion, the merit of Kadyrov Sr. that he admitted that he was wrong and went over to the side of Russia, I realized that the Wahhabis would not bring Saudi benefits to them and maybe in Russian he didn’t give a damn, for the sake of his people he was able to admit first of all to himself that he was wrong
            I’m not going to whine that they say world peace and friendship forever, but we must admit the events of the 90s are not the fault of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and so on, and all the adults of that time were involved in those tragic events, and how much effort Putin needed to bring there probably only he knows
            SW Asgard, you are also right, but after the default of 98, 15 years have passed, remember what happened and what is, the country began to rise in 15 years in just 15 years, and now it’s important to maintain what is and not to rush from one extreme to another
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 29 May 2013 15: 33 New
              +8
              Quote: Zhzhuk
              but we must admit the events of the 90s is not the fault of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, etc.

              Gorbachev was not only aware of the massacre that was carried out in the republics, but also participated in its preparation and conduct. In order for him to fulfill his mission as a traitor successfully with him, and long before him, many members of the Politburo worked and many other participants preparing the country for destruction. For decades, they have been actively struggling with the initiative in people, distorting all the achievements of the country. There is nothing accidental in what happened to the country, the situation was reshaped and has always been under control - the stage of the bipolar world has passed and the turn of globalization has come.
            2. Gari
              Gari 29 May 2013 16: 25 New
              14
              Quote: Zhzhuk
              I’m not going to whine supposedly world peace and friendship forever, but I must admit the events of the 90s is not the fault of Gorbachev


              And whose one he was the leader of a powerful Power created by Stalin, where everything worked like hours of special services, the Army - he knew everything perfectly, but did nothing, or rather did everything to ruin
              USSR - whose fault, if not this Judas, was a werewolf
              1. Scoun
                Scoun 29 May 2013 17: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Gari
                where everything worked like a security watch

                The failure went precisely from the special services.
                I will try to explain what the failure was ....
                In the 80s, if I am not mistaken, the “Karimov case” in the Uzbek SSR took place ..
                when the promotion of this case began, experts from Moscow (KGB) faced local delays, tripping, hiding facts of evidence, not a desire to cooperate .. and this was all due to the fact that people from their region’s region who somehow or other later became members of the KGB’s bodies To "get in touch" with local secretaries and in the future it was these structures who profiled someone who, at the direction of above, at least did not interfere, or even contributed to the heating and promotion of ethnic hatred.
                If we recall, the Uzbeks passed such skirmishes all over the periphery of the USSR, first they expelled the Meskhetian Turks, then they waved Osh events, the Baltic states, Azerbaijan, etc., etc. into the wave.
                here is Gorby the bastard.
            3. Selevc
              Selevc 29 May 2013 17: 20 New
              21
              Quote: Zhzhuk
              but we must admit the events of the 90s is not the fault of Gorbachev


              But how is it not the fault - the 90s is a direct consequence of Gorbachev’s policies of the second half of the 80s ...
              1985 Gorbachev surrenders to the USSR at a meeting with the United States in Reinkyavik ...
              1986 year The invasion of dissidents denigrating the history of the USSR and its past - and the past, as you know, is very tied to the present and the future ... As well as the appearance in the media (newspapers, TV and cinema) of films and programs that clearly denigrate Soviet people and the whole country ..
              1987 is the year that the USSR’s arms-limiting treaties are concluded ...
              In 1988, the Komsomol and the pioneer organization are quietly dissolving ...
              And also the post of the President of the USSR is introduced - this was done with the aim of limiting the powers of the first person of the country ...
              1988 is the year when artificially created difficulties in the economy of the USSR - collective farms are ruined and the work of large factories is disrupted ...
              The year 1989, the direct surrender of the positions of the USSR in Europe - the betrayal of their own governments of Eastern Europe ...
              1990 is the rapid growth of national conflicts on the territory of the USSR - moreover, clearly directed conflicts that take place without the participation of the army ...

              I will never believe that all this happened out of naivety or out of ignorance of Gorbachev and his entourage - the conclusion is obvious, HISTORICAL TRADING ...

              And now we are told fairy tales as if the Union had collapsed due to fluctuations in oil prices - that means in 1941 when the Germans were near Moscow and people just were starving, the country did not collapse and in 1991 oil prices fell and that’s all - it came big Kirdyk ...
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 29 May 2013 17: 38 New
                +8
                Everything is right on the shelves in order, only it all started from the 17th year when the Jews took power in RUSSIA and until Stalin pinched them, and from Khrushchev everything started spinning again, hunchbacked with Yeltsin, this is the last chord of the ts ...
                1. Selevc
                  Selevc 29 May 2013 20: 47 New
                  +8
                  The events of 1917, 200% - the fault of the tsar and the government of tsarist Russia ... In their hands were all the levers of governing the country - and the fact that they brought Russia to the revolution - only their fault and nobody else ...

                  I did not live in 1917 - and I can’t talk about it as an eyewitness ... But I remember very well the end of the 80s and the so-called Perestroika ... Which was nothing more than the dismantling of the Soviet system and the liquidation of the USSR as a state! !!

                  The events of 1991, it was the final act of Gorbachov’s criminal actions ... Obvious things say this - for example, despite the 1st referendum (at which the people spoke out in favor of preserving the USSR), a second referendum was held to get the results that were pleasing Gorbachev and his gang ...
            4. Young Putin
              Young Putin 29 May 2013 19: 18 New
              -1
              Quote: Zhzhuk
              and how much effort Putin needed to put things in order there probably only he knows

              Quote: Zhzhuk
              remember what was and what is, the country in 15 years began to rise in just 15 years

              It’s useless to explain to local kitchen presidents that they are under hypnosis. Where one is there and everything is like a herd.
        2. Uhe
          Uhe 29 May 2013 14: 37 New
          +3
          I fully support it - not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, as they say.
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 29 May 2013 13: 01 New
        +9
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Grandmas are implicated, it’s clear to the idiot, moreover grandmas of “probable” friends.

        Grandmas is secondary. At stake was the independence and sovereignty of Russia as a state. In the case of Chechnya, we can say "Arabian" wedge knock out Russian. In this situation, no other is given. They extinguished the Chechen "Zindan", now look what the Arab partners are doing, with Dagestan, the Ingush, they are setting fire there. Well, Syria and Libya is their (Arabs represented by Qatar S.A.) swan song. They wouldn’t have hammered their wedge in Russia, now a raging fire in the Caucasus was raging like the Syrian one. So there is nothing new in the infusion of finance into Chechnya. Remembering the 90s, working at the enterprise, we also "extinguished" the rallies and strikes by a short-term increase in wages, and the payment thereof for several months. The people calmed down, and went to work together with a happy expression on their faces. Well, the fact that there are excesses with these injections, and with the attitude to the leaders of Chechnya, it’s not even necessary to go to the grandmother. It is enough to call in Siberia and compare. Alas, the result is not in favor of Siberia. I do not like all this advantage in one direction, and the game is one-goal. The LKN were already completely insolent, behaving unceremoniously, insulting, and came to a foreign monastery with their own charter. This is not gut. On this basis, vague doubts torment me, no matter what happens to us what is happening with tolerant Europe, tolerance now goes sideways to the local population. So the regional committee rings the bell))), so far, God forbid, this bell will beat Nabat.
      3. datur
        datur 30 May 2013 12: 26 New
        0
        [quote = Reasonable, 2,3] Grandmothers are involved, it’s clear to the idiot, and grandmothers are “probable” friends. And Chechens, as they were a headache for Russia, will remain. Sight-exhale ........ ! .---- not time yet! we get to them !! history teaches this !!! yes
    2. kvodrato
      kvodrato 30 May 2013 08: 51 New
      0
      The enslavement of the Slavs after the death of Stalin
  2. raf
    raf 29 May 2013 08: 02 New
    21
    The article is built on the principle: “We started for health, finished for peace”! What I want to answer with words from the song of the group “Chayf” “Do not rush to bury us, we still have things to do here! At home the children are small, and I just wanted to by live! tongue
    1. Su24
      Su24 29 May 2013 13: 48 New
      +2
      The Russian imperial mechanism with a great creak but still turns occasionally some more, as happened in the case of Chechnya. However, this happens less and less, and the costs of this process are increasing. Costs, above all, for the Russian people. An empire that provides neither protection, nor justice, nor civilization becomes useless to anyone and ceases to be an empire.


      On the contrary, after the failure of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period, a revival begins in us, and the creation of the Eurasian Union is a confirmation of this. And we need to look at our problems in comparison with our neighbors. Yes, corruption and political lack of will in Russia, but, for example, in comparison with Ukraine, we have a very firm leadership and centralism. Is education bad? Look at education in Central Asia. Etc. Russia, as it was a center of attraction, has remained. And putting things in order and expanding influence are closely interconnected and parallel things.
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 29 May 2013 14: 42 New
        +6
        Russia and oligarchism are not compatible, Russians and capitalism are not compatible. Do you need Russia without Russians? Well, this is what your avatar achieves with all its black powers. You’ll live among Tajiks and Chechens, the Zionists who wipe their feet about you will be the bosses, and you will speak in the Russian language.
        1. Don
          Don 3 June 2013 14: 36 New
          -1
          Quote: Uhe
          Russia and oligarchism are not compatible, Russians and capitalism are not compatible.

          Well, of course. But the Novgorod Republic accidentally did not develop from trade ?! All people are compatible with capitalism. Most of the entrepreneurs are now just from Russians.
          1. Svyatoslav72
            Svyatoslav72 3 June 2013 16: 18 New
            -1
            No need to stupid. Feudalism and Capitalism are different time frames, management systems. Trade and Production are not the same thing. Novgorodians are not only traders, much less capitalists. An entrepreneur may be Russian in origin, but in orientation he is a different creature. Entrepreneurship is often not an honest activity, and not correctly oriented. More adequacy.
            1. Don
              Don 4 June 2013 13: 20 New
              -2
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              No need to stupid. Feudalism and Capitalism are Different Timeframes

              It seems dumb just you. Feudalism is a political and legal system, and Capitalism is an economic system of production and distribution. You can’t understand the definitions so don’t talk nonsense. And these are not really different time frames. What the German Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire were not capitalist states.
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              Trade and Production are not the same thing.

              What are you? Well, you opened my eyes to the truth. I know. But these are interconnected things. Production works not only on the domestic, but also on the foreign market.
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              Novgorodians are not only traders, much less capitalists.

              Capitalism is the economic system of production and distribution, based on private propertyuniversal legal equality and enterprise freedom. The main criterion for making economic decisions is the desire to increase capital, to profit.
              This is not how it does not apply to the boyars (oligarchs) of Novgorod?
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              An entrepreneur may be Russian in origin, but in orientation he is a different creature.

              And who is the Martian? How old are you that you carry such nonsense? It means that he is Russian by nationality, and by origin and orientation he is a different creature. Do you know the meaning of the words origin and orientation?
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              Entrepreneurship is often not an honest activity, and not correctly oriented.

              Who told you that? Did you decide that yourself? So this is purely your opinion.
              Quote: Svyatoslav72
              More adequacy.

              This is just what you need, but at the same time to read more.
              1. Svyatoslav72
                Svyatoslav72 4 June 2013 14: 14 New
                0
                Yes! did you decide to be smart Why did you read where? I watch PR theory do you trade? Once again, for particularly "advanced users", I repeat: - A lot of things are also written on the fence, but this does not mean that this is all behind the fence.
                1. Feudalism is a social structure characteristic of the Monarchy. Capitalism is a system of production relations that arose during the transition from Monarchy to the Republic. Later, capitalism is a system replacing the State system with its interests. This is a different time frame.
                2. Before the modern World (before the formation of companies), trade and production were separated, since different classes with different abilities and capabilities were engaged in this. If you know everything, so how do you interfere in one pile?
                3. About Capitalism said above. About the Novgorod Republic, which became capitalist in trade, I didn’t peep ...... zero.
                4. Drug dealers Pimps and Racketeers, Scams and Fraudsters - can also be considered entrepreneurs. Because with your cartoonish ideas about the world, black is not distinguished from white. For particularly smart people, I explain: - Psychology dictates a different form of behavior and attitude, a stereotype pattern that gives the right to a different mentality. He is not Russian, he is the Oligarch, Boss, Elite, God.
                5. Who told me what is not an indicator. I have eyes and ears at the very same time, I myself think. First, they will arrange genocide and devastation with their entrepreneurship, and then they show off the orphans with orphans and build religious dens. Go to ........ with your charity, without your direct participation, this would not have happened. These are the consequences. AND! these are sketches.
                6. Once again and many times: - More adequacy, son, it’s time to get out of the diapers and the sandbox and stop seeing telemilitry populated by the Moomins.
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      3. ded10041948
        ded10041948 29 May 2013 19: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Su24
        The Russian imperial mechanism with a great creak but still turns occasionally some more, as happened in the case of Chechnya. However, this happens less and less, and the costs of this process are increasing. Costs, above all, for the Russian people. An empire that provides neither protection, nor justice, nor civilization becomes useless to anyone and ceases to be an empire.


        On the contrary, after the failure of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period, a revival begins in us, and the creation of the Eurasian Union is a confirmation of this. And we need to look at our problems in comparison with our neighbors. Yes, corruption and political lack of will in Russia, but, for example, in comparison with Ukraine, we have a very firm leadership and centralism. Is education bad? Look at education in Central Asia. Etc. Russia, as it was a center of attraction, has remained. And putting things in order and expanding influence are closely interconnected and parallel things.


        And with some Lesotho or Central Guiana compare, so in Russia everything is chocolate!
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 May 2013 08: 03 New
    +8
    One theft, kickbacks, cuts and Chubais. Nevertheless, it was Russia that provided the opportunity to build factories and skyscrapers in Chechnya instead of digging zindans and hostage businesses in the land.


    And also Serdyukov and Co. and many, many ...
  4. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 29 May 2013 08: 05 New
    -50
    Quote from the author:
    An empire that does not provide protection, justice, or civilization becomes unnecessary to anyone and ceases to be an empire.

    And who said that Russia needs an Empire? Personally, I am for the Republic and Unitary!
    1. raf
      raf 29 May 2013 08: 13 New
      48
      And I am for the empire, for Russia cannot but be an empire! Don’t call it, the Russian Empire, the USSR or the Russian Federation!
      1. Ishtan
        Ishtan 29 May 2013 08: 26 New
        32
        Russia with its territories can only be an empire.
      2. Jeka
        Jeka 29 May 2013 08: 46 New
        -6
        Quote: raf
        And I am for the empire, for Russia cannot but be an empire! Don’t call it, the Russian Empire, the USSR or the Russian Federation!

        the union of Soviet socialist republics, as the name implies that the USSR is a republic, and I personally am for a socialist republic.
        1. Rider
          Rider 29 May 2013 12: 39 New
          14
          Quote: wih
          Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as the name implies that the USSR


          in the USSR, everyone sees his own.
          you mainly found the "republic"
          but I see the main UNION.

          moreover - equal
          and not the one when the RSFSR was a donor to all the rest of the outskirts.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 29 May 2013 17: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Rider
            moreover - equal

            But nobody needs such a Union — everyone needs preferences
            and the opportunity to be at least a little king, but small king
      3. Papakiko
        Papakiko 29 May 2013 09: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: raf
        Russia cannot be an empire

        "shaves" do not hesitate to be called the Empire, but we must avoid and lessen by small shaking or the "mattress" Republic ?!
        Toot at the very trachea.
        The games in the "unitary democracy" were gored, just words in an endless stream.
        And the Russian Federation very much agrees with the title of the article and is NEROSSIAN EMPIRE.
      4. Gari
        Gari 29 May 2013 09: 55 New
        14
        Empire, firstly, offered protection from an external conqueror,
        Secondly, the Empire offered justice,
        Empire - brought civilization, building railways where yesterday people rode horses or camels, creating a system of education, health care and much more.
        All right
        An example is the city of Batumi on the Black Sea, where it often happened in childhood.
        Until 1878, before the annexation of the Russian Empire, Batumi was a hamlet with up to three thousand inhabitants. The best houses were wooden, tiled.
        After Batumi, Batumi was given the status of port-Francoi, in a short time it became the third largest city in Transcaucasia, and by the importance of the port it was the third in the Russian Empire. Port-free status facilitated the rapid attraction of foreign capital to the country, the industrial development of the city began, and trade expanded. Batumi port in terms of cargo turnover came in third place in the Russian Empire after the ports of St. Petersburg and Odessa, and the population of the city from 3 thousand people increased to 35.000. The importance of the city increased even more after Batumi became the most convenient transportation hub for the export of Baku oil since the 80s of the 1883th century. In XNUMX, Batumi connected the Transcaucasian Railway with the railway.
        It was built 305 residential buildings, opened 4 tobacco factories, 8 hotels, 4 pastry shops, 27 bakeries ... 49 laundries, 15 haberdashery, 12 shoe factories
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 29 May 2013 12: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Gari
          After Batumi, Batumi was given the status of port-Francoi, in a short time it became the third largest city in Transcaucasia, and by the importance of the port it was the third in the Russian Empire.

          You probably wanted to say the thirtieth port or three hundredth in importance. Who did Batumi overtake in importance? Peter, Rostov-on-Don or Vladivostok? Maybe Novorossiysk or Odessa? Batumi is the smallest port of the "empire".
      5. 755962
        755962 29 May 2013 12: 15 New
        14
        Quote: raf
        And I am for the empire, for Russia cannot but be an empire!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 May 2013 08: 29 New
      23
      Quote: Milafon
      Personally, I am for the Republic and Unitary!

      In France, a unitary republic, we pack our suitcase, we call a taxi to the airport. hi
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 29 May 2013 08: 46 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov

        You first google what Unitary, and for one, the Federal Republic means.
        And then drive in the literal and figurative sense. hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 May 2013 08: 48 New
          11
          Quote: Milafon
          And then drive in the literal and figurative sense

          This is exactly what they have created in France now! so who drives and who google the big question. Russia will not become a republic, not that country, not that scale hi
          1. MilaPhone
            MilaPhone 29 May 2013 09: 04 New
            10
            A unitary state is a form of territorial organization. Unlike the federation, in a unitary state there are supreme bodies of state power that are uniform for the whole country, a single legal system, a single constitution. That is, a whole country with a single center, without splitting into republics, states, autonomy.
            I don’t understand how it relates to the adoption of the homosexual law in France. hi
    3. AntonR7
      AntonR7 29 May 2013 09: 25 New
      14
      Either Russia will be an empire or it will be like Romania i.e. as in the proverb “Big powers behave like gangsters, and small powers like prostitutes.” There is only one conclusion: We must be strong - it has become an empire!
      1. washi
        washi 29 May 2013 14: 53 New
        +3
        And who do you propose to the Emperors?
      2. does it
        does it 29 May 2013 19: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: AntonR7
        Either Russia will be an empire or it will be like Romania i.e.

        And then who will be the Impaler? belay
    4. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 29 May 2013 09: 48 New
      +9
      Quote: Milafon
      And who said that Russia needs an Empire? Personally, I am for the Republic and Unitary!

      For those who do not think, but immediately put a minus, I explain: The Empire and the Republic are a type of government, and not an indicator of Greatness.
      The Republic can also be Mighty and Great while not dividing into any autonomous units and being a whole country with a single center.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 29 May 2013 10: 34 New
        +2
        Milafon, do you not like the federal structure? There is general legislation and the laws of the subjects that should not contradict the federal one. If the Russian Federation is not able to ensure the supremacy of the federal law, then you at least call the state system, etc., nothing will change
      2. AntonR7
        AntonR7 29 May 2013 11: 01 New
        +2
        I don’t agree that the empire is a type of structure, an empire from Latin authorities and this is not a type (form) of state structure (which are federation and unitarity), but it is an indicator of greatness, although I agree that a republic can be an empire, I note that Rome, being a republic, historians call the empire since it dominated the then world, Britain being a kingdom by the end of the 19th century. given its size including the colony was proclaimed an empire.

        Signs of an empire:

        At present, the figurative interpretation of the word "empire" is also widely used. In this case, it means a large state and a state with the following features:
        the presence of a strong army and police;
        large foreign policy influence;
        powerful state idea (religion, ideology);
        hard, as a rule, sole power;
        high loyalty of the population;
        an active foreign policy aimed at expansion, the desire for regional or world domination;
        the most important criterion is the presence of specific internal systemic relationships between the central governing part of the state (metropolis), which has concentrated political and economic power, and the colonies subordinate to it, which are sources of geopolitical and economic resources.
        A state that meets these criteria will be an empire. Moreover, the monarchy as a type of government is not required.
        1. washi
          washi 29 May 2013 14: 57 New
          +1
          The emperor should not only have a veto. which is in the British Empire, but also have their own security services, which are most likely to be in the BI.
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 29 May 2013 11: 32 New
        +2
        Now I will say "seditious" thought wink Rome was actually an empire long before the establishment of the power of Augustus. In other words, the republic was an empire. By the way, like the United States now.
        But! Empire - assumes the presence of conquered countries, while the methods of government in different conquered territories are different to take into account the traditions of conquered peoples.
        Those. an empire as a unit may not be unitary. The same France, in itself a unitary state, but !!! The French Empire ended with the loss of North and West Africa. At the same time, despite the fact that the empire’s metropolis was unitary for a long time, the empire was federal.
        1. washi
          washi 29 May 2013 15: 00 New
          +2
          The Russian Empire was not western. In our country, on the contrary, the conquered peoples were given too much. There were more Caucasian princes than in the metropolis.
          1. folds
            folds 29 May 2013 17: 07 New
            +5
            really liked the picture :)
      4. Owl
        Owl 30 May 2013 15: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Milafon
        Quote: Milafon
        And who said that Russia needs an Empire? Personally, I am for the Republic and Unitary!

        For those who do not think, but immediately put a minus, I explain: The Empire and the Republic are a type of government, and not an indicator of Greatness.
        The Republic can also be Mighty and Great while not dividing into any autonomous units and being a whole country with a single center.

        Well, to begin with, the Republic is still a form of government of the state (along with the monarchy), and not a type, or rather, a form of state. devices (which include unitarity, federation and confederation). Moreover, at present, from the point of view of the theory of the state, the Empire is not a form of state. device, no form of government. At present, it is advisable to consider an empire a great power and its "sphere of influence" - political, ideological, economic, military and cultural. Moreover, an empire can be both a republic and a monarchy, as a unitary state, and federative, as totalitarian / authoritarian, and democratic. In all respects, Russia fits the concept of empire.
        As one famous movie hero used to say: "So what else do you need, bony?"
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 29 May 2013 10: 22 New
      +1
      Russia is not to be an empire unprofitable and unpromising. We are still an empire, only many "want" to think differently.
      1. washi
        washi 29 May 2013 15: 07 New
        +1
        We need a long-term development plan. It cannot be achieved through elections. All delaupuses - I think you yourself swear.
        A very good option is the Draft Stalin Constitution of 1936. It is the project, and not what party members made of it (in our case, the oligarchs). Introduction of the Criminal Code, and of all legislation on 22.08.39.
    6. Bezarius
      Bezarius 29 May 2013 10: 58 New
      +2
      Russia can exist only in the form of a strong empire, or not exist at all.
      Of this "rich" choice, I prefer the first.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 29 May 2013 11: 46 New
        +3
        Oh guys .... everyone is wrong))))read my post carefully and to the end))

        Remember the word _ AUTOCRACY_... This is the most optimal way of government.
        Translated from the Russian language, this means, WE HOLD IT FOR YOURSELF.
        No Empires, CIS, SCOs, European integrations and kaganates, it all went through and is not very viable (maximum tens of years)))
        POWER existed (and exists in the minds of PEOPLE)) for a long time and allows society to develop, build pyramids, moons, develop continents ....

        ________________________________________________________________________________
        1. washi
          washi 29 May 2013 15: 14 New
          0
          And to whom the power We will trust. It is supposed to collect the Zemsky Cathedral. Who will hit him? More precisely, who will survive?
          Civil war again. And again, weapons and money from abroad.
          We need to hold out for 20 years.
          And then let the flood in America.
      2. washi
        washi 29 May 2013 15: 08 New
        +1
        You do not steal, do not break the laws? Are you okay with law-abiding southerners?
    7. Uhe
      Uhe 29 May 2013 14: 44 New
      -1
      The Russian Republic is modeled on the Novgorod Republic. Moreover, a return to values ​​before the Petrine reforms and before the adoption of Christianity, or rather, faith should be the way it was conceived - a two-part Orthodox pagan. We have our own way, the West is not a decree for us.
  5. Marconi41
    Marconi41 29 May 2013 08: 09 New
    0
    The author of the article knocked everything together. Incomprehensible reading and nothing to discuss!
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz 29 May 2013 09: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Marconi41
      The author of the article knocked everything together. Incomprehensible reading and nothing to discuss!

      I agree. The author of the article knocked everything together. But reading just understandable. But I don’t want to discuss such a reading from a publicist (?) From Kiev.
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 29 May 2013 10: 09 New
        +5
        There is nothing to discuss - but it’s a shame, right? And non-Russian, and non-empire, exactly the same is said! But Russia has indeed been written forever: either BE an Empire (but not Evil, but Light). Or DO NOT BE RUSSIA. Of course, I would like to have a more humane appearance of this empire. So that not one until her death could sleep peacefully, even though attacking ours somewhere. But all the friends, so that they would only come to us and stand in line. Yes, not for a freebie, but for a partnership that is beneficial for both parties.
        This is still Pushkin said: "I can not love my homeland, but it offends me when this stranger shares a dislike with me." Is it a stranger from Kiev? My distant ancestors in Primorye just came from the Kiev region!
      2. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 29 May 2013 16: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: andrejwz
        But to discuss such a reading from a publicist (?)

        Still put a plus, because there is something to think about. Two opposites are simply cited: destruction and creation. We decide what to choose and time does not wait. There is a danger to our state.
  6. Sibiryak
    Sibiryak 29 May 2013 08: 15 New
    +3
    What do you think, dear readers, how could it happen that the father and son of the Kadyrovs moved during the Second Chechen War from the camp of the separatists, Basayev-Maskhadovs, etc. (in which they were known to be during the First War), to the side Russia?

    Endowed with official power and gave money!
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  8. Guun
    Guun 29 May 2013 08: 39 New
    10
    Most people think that money is wrong. If they needed US money and the Arabs would give more than Russia would offer. Power - here it is the same that the Chechens did not share after the First Campaign. After the first Chechen one, it became clear that the Kadyrov family would not last long against the wolves Maskhadov and Dudaev on whose side were Arabs-saboteurs who were not happy with the fact that Kadyrov was also climbing to power, the result was a massacre between them. Kadyrov won.
  9. erased
    erased 29 May 2013 08: 40 New
    +9
    My comment was deleted, so I repeat. The author, who lives in a country with the capital Kiev, sees the situation from there in his own way.
    But here everything is simpler. The current government is following its mildly strange line firmly and unshakably. The power is firmly seated; no power can remove it. People have little choice - either endure or blame. Everyone decides for himself.
    And to see what is happening is often not only painful, but also insulting. But there is nothing to be done.
  10. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 29 May 2013 09: 00 New
    0
    This is how "disa" is created: a bit of truth, a bit of lies and a lot of water, and we’ll figure out the rest ourselves. Where better than from Kiev you can see the problems of Russia, and what else can you expect from the “independents”.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 29 May 2013 11: 20 New
      0
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      This is how "disa" is created: a bit of truth, a bit of lies and a lot of water, and we’ll think up the rest ourselves.

      it is. if you read such articles, they think that the Internet is not a zombie-Internet. But the TV is a zombie, and the Internet is dumb fellow laughing the internet is a clean, bright, good source of infarmation laughing
    2. folds
      folds 29 May 2013 16: 46 New
      +3
      Where better than from Kiev you can see the problems of Russia, and what else can be expected from the "independents".
      Judging by the articles periodically appearing on topwar.ru, from here the problems of Ukraine and Kiev are much more visible. And all Ukrainians trying to say "leave us alone, we will figure it out ourselves" are carefully minus. For example, it doesn’t matter to me where a person comes from, it is important - what he writes. Judging by the assessment of article 2/3 of those who read, they at least thought about these problems.
  11. Seraph
    Seraph 29 May 2013 09: 06 New
    +3
    In accordance with the main thesis of the author - "there is no justice, protection and civilization, there is no empire" and his own conclusion that in modern Russia this is not the case with the Russian population - we must conclude that Russia will not be soon.
    The author ate too much counterfeit Afghan fat or peppered with a vodka. Or an insult to a free Ukraine, which is rapidly decaying: "it’s not a shame that my cow died, but that my neighbor is alive."
    There will be no collapse of Russia, do not wait. Because another option is the death of the entire human race.
  12. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 29 May 2013 09: 11 New
    0
    The article, as a result of many years of propaganda of Bandera in Ukraine. Maximize our flaws and forget about the advantages. From time immemorial, Russia had its own bureaucrats, officials, and the Serdyukovs, which did not prevent the empire from expanding and strengthening its power. Yes, Russia is not having the best of times, as it is not the first time in history, but people have always been united by one idea and the empire has revived. In this regard, Russia is a unique empire. Not a single empire was able to recover from the collapse, and Russia was able to more than once or twice, and I think it will be restored this time. Everything takes time. 25 years by historical standards is a moment. Russia was, is and will be no matter what, with or without Ukraine. But the future of Ukraine, is very much in question.
  13. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 29 May 2013 09: 20 New
    +2
    I understand why Russia does not like dkmocracy, because no one saw it here for a short period during which, after the collapse of the USSR, timid maaaluyensky shoots of democracy were trampled and destroyed in 1993. And after 93, Russia is an authoritarian pseudo-democracy. I know here for some reason they don’t like Wikipedia, but I’ll still insert the concept of a definition of authoritarianism from it purely for comparison, look at the list and see if this symptom is present in Russia:

    -autocracy or a small number of carriers of power (dictator, military dictatorship, oligarchic group);
    - lack of government control over the people, narrowed down or nullified by the principles of the election of state bodies and officials, accountability to their population;
    - the principle of separation of powers is ignored, the head of state, the executive power dominates, the role of representative bodies is limited;
    -monopolization of power and politics, prevention of real political opposition and competition (sometimes the absence of various political institutions may be the result of the immaturity of civil society or distrust of the parties by the population);
    - refusal of total control over society, non-intervention or limited intervention in non-political spheres, primarily in the economy;
    - command, administrative, dominated as methods of state administration, at the same time there is no terror, mass repressions are practically not used;
    -The rights and freedoms of the individual are mainly proclaimed, but are not really ensured (primarily in the political sphere);
    -personality is devoid of security guarantees in relations with the authorities;
    power structures are practically uncontrollable to society and are sometimes used for political purposes.
    One of the common phenomena in the framework of authoritarian and totalitarian systems is the practice of imitation of elections. Imitation of elections is a campaign and propaganda event with all the formal attributes of elections (direct and secret balloting, election campaign, the availability of alternative candidates, etc.) in the complete absence of even the slightest possibility of opposition representatives coming to power.)
    As for me, in Russia there are all the signs of an authoritarian state. Democracy is very easy to kick because it has a lot of flaws. And finally, Churchill said that, "Democracy is the worst form of government, but unfortunately it is better not."
    1. Jeka
      Jeka 29 May 2013 10: 23 New
      +8
      Well, at least there is another political and social system that is higher than democracy - socialism, but thanks to the efforts of the United States (under socialism it is harder to plunder its people), socialism is no longer quoted and it is unlikely that we will soon see a socialist state.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 29 May 2013 10: 58 New
        +5
        The world apparently needs to grow to socialism.
        1. Rider
          Rider 29 May 2013 13: 05 New
          10
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Socialism apparently needs to grow to socialism


          before socialism, humanity must be NEWS
          ka child to school.
          for, few children INDEPENDENTLY crave for knowledge.

          but if you bang the teacher, and even better to demolish the school itself, it turns out that nothing but scrap of a shovel and ax, the kids are not capable of.

          it is worth considering who benefits from leaving humanity illiterate.
          1. Standard Oil
            Standard Oil 29 May 2013 13: 12 New
            +3
            I totally agree. good
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 29 May 2013 16: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: wih
        Well, at least there is another political and social system that is higher than democracy - socialism

        There is no democracy without socialism. )))
    2. OLDTODD
      OLDTODD 29 May 2013 13: 28 New
      +2
      Well, if you are such a fan of WiKi, then please: Democracy (dr. Greek δημοκρατία - “power of the people”, from δῆμος - “people” and κράτος - “power”) - a political regime based on the collective decision-making method with equal the impact of participants on the outcome of the process [2] or on its significant stages [3]. Although this method is applicable to any social structures, today the state is its most important application, since it has great power. In this case, the definition of democracy is usually narrowed down to one of the following symptoms:
      Leaders are appointed by the people they govern by fair and competitive elections [4] [approx. 1]
      The people are the only legitimate source of power [5] [6]
      The company exercises self-government for the common good and the satisfaction of common interests [7] [8]
      And most importantly - where did you see something like that? In my circle, some transnational corporations. And they only need profit !!!
    3. ovgorskiy
      ovgorskiy 29 May 2013 14: 49 New
      0
      Standard Oil
      Did he register as a foreign agent, or decided to boycott the bloody regime?
      And you often come to the Ear of Moscow, and not come to such conclusions.
      All of the above can be more or less attributed to all countries, including your "lamp of democracy."
      1. In America, the oligarchic group (s) rules.
      2. The monopolization of power by 2 parties, changing power by tacit agreement. etc. etc.
      You are an American wage worker on a swamp, and rub them in there about authoritarianism and democracy.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 29 May 2013 16: 26 New
        +1
        Dear Sir or Comrade, First of all, I don’t tell you “you”, this is for decency, the concept of “foreign agent” is applicable to legal organizations receiving money from abroad, but you probably don’t know this, well, okay, the boycott to the “bloody regime” “it’s pointless to declare a boycott at all? What is the“ Moscow Ear ”? All of the above can be attributed to all countries; here you are right, but the fact of the matter is that this applies to us to a greater extent. not mine, I did not say a word about him, and why this stupid analysis of the administrative system Are we the United States about oligarchic groups? Well, since in the end you make a conclusion about my professional affiliation and advise you to go to Bolotnaya Square, I’ll say that I’m not an American wage worker, by the way I’m not living in Moscow and I don’t intend to go to the square, and "rub" to someone, why?
        And by the way, you yourself are not an American wage-worker, for your reasoning is at the level of 9-10 grade in high school, at best?
    4. washi
      washi 29 May 2013 15: 19 New
      0
      Give at least one example with TRUE DEMOCRACY
      You can take from ancient Greece to modern USA.
      I have an answer.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 29 May 2013 16: 36 New
        +1
        What is TRUE DEMOCRACY?
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 29 May 2013 21: 18 New
        0
        Quote: Vasya
        Give at least one example with TRUE DEMOCRACY
        You can take from ancient Greece to modern USA.
        I have an answer.

        Ask the Greeks about "ancient Greece", at best they will send it, at worst they will give it in the face. Ancient Greece is an invention, the Greeks themselves deny it, just like democracy in America, it was never there, the dictatorship of the oligarchy, as you call the system in the United States, but not democracy.
    5. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 29 May 2013 17: 52 New
      -1
      The standard oil that you wrote will also suit your sassch!
  14. Hort
    Hort 29 May 2013 09: 20 New
    +6
    not everything is so scary, as our historical experience shows, if the authorities cannot provide normal protection for their citizens, and especially for the titular nation (like the majority), then citizens begin to do it themselves. True, in this case, several e-uh illegal methods are used))
    1. folds
      folds 29 May 2013 16: 53 New
      0
      But the authorities are already closely monitoring this, because it’s very close to the overthrow of the people to the overthrow of such a government.
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 29 May 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: Guun
    Most people think that money is wrong. If they needed US money and the Arabs would give more than Russia would offer. Power - here it is the same that the Chechens did not share after the First Campaign. After the first Chechen one, it became clear that the Kadyrov family would not last long against the wolves Maskhadov and Dudaev on whose side were Arabs-saboteurs who were not happy with the fact that Kadyrov was also climbing to power, the result was a massacre between them. Kadyrov won.

    I agree with you .. here I just wanted to add that the question of the second Chechen one was already about the existence of the Chechen nation. They really angered the Russian bear .. they started crushing everyone indiscriminately with all available weapons except nuclear weapons .. I think Kadyrov understood this .. (his eyes were wolf even when he smiled) Yes, and Ramzan is still a lupus ..
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 29 May 2013 10: 53 New
      10
      Quote: MIKHAN
      they began to crumble them indiscriminately with all available weapons except nuclear weapons ..

      I’ll disappoint you: nobody started crushing anyone there. They gave free corridors for the departure of the militants, gave the villages under the protection of "self-defense" detachments, completed the rifle companies of the commandants from Chechens (seasoned militants) and all that. As a result, the population in some villages increased sharply (due to militants who were amnestied and settled in them). The official history of the two wars is very “smoothed out”; in reality, the events taking place are very far from it.
      Of the two evils, the Kadyrovs chose the lesser and used a unique chance for their teip to reach the heights of power. Of course, with the help of Russian bayonets and for certain concessions. Now Chechnya is even more in a better position than if it were independent. Kadyrov’s power in the Republic is absolute, the laws of the Russian Federation on its territory are pure profanity, money flows from Moscow as a river. What else is needed?
  16. pinecone
    pinecone 29 May 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Papakiko
    Quote: raf
    Russia cannot be an empire

    "Britons do not hesitate to be called the Empire. RF is NEROSSIAN EMPIRE.

    There is no British Empire, they have a "commonwealth", from which the name of the CIS was ripped off. They have their own "friends", we have our own, those in English cities are atrocious, and these in Russian.
    As the saying goes, such friends are better for the forge and to the museum.
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 29 May 2013 09: 37 New
    +2
    And the imperial spirit is in our blood .. we collective people need us like in the song "Walk like this, shoot and shoot like that" Build spaceships right away .. And the consumer consumers from us gentlemen are liberals and others .. don’t make money in vain they spend on brainwashing .. And if they want war, we will be a war but not like in their Hollywood films .. there will be a fierce war ..
    1. washi
      washi 29 May 2013 15: 23 New
      +1
      And where did you serve or fight?
      Fill the text on the keyboard and shoot correctly, a big difference.
      Do not toss the bags.
  18. ded_73
    ded_73 29 May 2013 09: 43 New
    +7
    And what is it that offends you the look from Kiev? Most of those present are “great” experts in the field of Ukraine’s foreign and domestic policy. Not a single article is adorned with their advice, and as far as Russia is concerned, it is up to the "foreigners" to discuss it. Like we’ll figure it out ... And in the article, in my opinion, there is a lot of truth, and there is nothing offensive in this. Or say that Russian life is carefree and flourishing?
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 29 May 2013 11: 31 New
      -4
      But what problems are there in Chechnya? There are no gay parades, there are no rallies, diplomats are not fighting, the birth rate is the highest! I think it’s REALLY safer in Chechnya than in London or Paris. Am I wrong? Of course, I’m right. May 9 in Ukraine WWII participants can get rid of cradles from your Natsiks, but in Chechnya this is not possible, they treat the elderly with respect.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 29 May 2013 12: 04 New
        +5
        Quote: djon3volta
        I think it’s REALLY safer in Chechnya than in London or Paris. Am I wrong?

        Go and live, not to visit.
    2. washi
      washi 29 May 2013 15: 31 New
      +1
      Yes, I do not care about India.
      I'm tired of your mess. You are already determined you are smart or beautiful.
      In every country there is enough G ... We must fight this, but not for the loot, but because of the mysterious Russian soul.
      Got loot for the rally - a traitor. Lomanul hut oligarch and loot for children and pensioners gave - a revolutionary
  19. Opera
    Opera 29 May 2013 10: 07 New
    18
    Imperial consciousness and the Russian mentality are synonyms. The heyday of our country has always been in imperial times, no matter how the empire was called at that time. No need to dissemble, the USSR was an empire. I traveled all over the country from Kaliningrad to the Kuril Islands and everywhere I felt comfortable. No matter how they try to educate small owners of consumers in us, this is probably already rejected at the genetic level. For a Russian man, a powerful Power is behind him, a strong big country in which he lives is WILL! No matter how arrogant it sounds! We don’t have to try to drive us into unitary republics and other principalities - we don’t breed in free will, we begin to grow weak and become angry little by little. And this thing is dangerous for the beaters, so let's live peacefully in a large and strong country of the empire!
    What was the USSR in the USSR, I know and remember. What independent Ukraine has become - I see! I will not compare because there is nothing!
    In the USSR, I did not understand only one thing, what exactly is the RSFSR ?! And if the USSR is us, then why do all these national republics ?! No, of course, I am behind both hands - for the cultural identity of peoples, language, religion ... Only territorial division should be on another basis.
    As for the article, in my opinion at least two people wrote it.
    As for Chechnya and the North Caucasus ... when the Russians are weakening, the rest are getting wild. One must be strong. We are gaining strength. It’s like in Igor Rasteryaev’s song “Russian Road”. When we back down we are in front of us go!
    1. Seraph
      Seraph 29 May 2013 10: 27 New
      +3
      Well said!
      But Rasteryaev is so similar to Yesenin, well done man, a real Russian. Topic comparison
  20. tixon444
    tixon444 29 May 2013 10: 12 New
    +3
    I don’t care what kind of government we have, it’s important that the government is able to ensure what we expect from it, that there are normal living conditions: affordable housing, active medicine, universal real education, curbing crime, and so on and so forth. And most importantly in this series - so that the authorities do not fight with their people. To rule the law, which is the same for everyone. Say - Utopia? My answer is no, we lived in such a country, this is called socialism. And the fact that socialism also happens under capitalism, we see firsthand, on the example of Chechnya, or, for example, Norway.
    You can have a different attitude to Kadyrov, but what he did in Chechnya over some 10 years is undeniable, because he could simply steal, as some governors do. I recently traveled to 14 regions of Russia, and what is most striking is the empty eye sockets of abandoned farms. Well, the roads, or rather, their condition. Here are two areas: Voronezh and Saratov - heaven and earth. The geographical location cannot affect the state of roads in this way - as soon as I entered Saratov from Voronezh, after Borisoglebsk, in front of Balashov, civilization ended. The first desire was to turn back. Pit in the pit, do not have time to dodge.
    The first priority in Russia is the eradication of corruption, simply theft. Here lies the root of all ills. And to destroy this evil can only be toughening punishment, regardless of rank. The thief must be in prison, and with the complete confiscation of property. And in especially large cases, it is necessary to carry out indicative executions, as in China.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 29 May 2013 11: 37 New
      +1
      I will paraphrase and “slightly” reduce it: so that there is no power over us and we ourselves are power on our land and the name of the state’s structure does not matter, because we will fill it with our own, suffering, meaning and not Wikipedia. Therefore, what is really important is who and what we are, here the main problems are hidden, contained in us, we only need to realize them and not devote too much time to searching for the guilty and scapegoats (Now I found out that this is a purely Jewish tradition, live forever learn a century.).
    2. washi
      washi 29 May 2013 15: 37 New
      0
      Here it is - dependency (with which Comrade Stalin struggled (unfortunately not entirely successfully)).
      Is the state for you? What have you done for the state? First, the state must be re-created, after its destruction in the 90s, and then demand.
      What have you done for the state?
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 29 May 2013 17: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasya
        What have you done for the state?

        Do not bend
        For example, I work and pay taxes, I don’t steal, I have been a law-abiding citizen all my life, haven’t drunk, haven’t smoked the state enough? Manage my taxes wisely, don’t spend them every year on road repairs, but invite the Germans better, let them build normally. Not necessary I have such a State Duma with these deputies and their assistants. Let their salary go to the education of orphans in Suvorov schools. Let there be a Presidential Council where patriots will pass laws for the benefit of the Russians free of charge. I also don’t want mayors, governors and representatives the president went to my taxes on Mercedes. You are a citizen like me, and if you do not want to go by public transport, drive your car with a driver, and the guard for your salary, which goes to you from my taxes.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 29 May 2013 21: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: Pilat2009
          invite the Germans better, let them build normally

          They will not build normally! The problem is that in Germany between cities A and B - 100 km, and in Russia between cities A and B - 300 km (actually even more), and the money is allocated to a lonely one! The problem is not in bad roads, but in long distances.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 29 May 2013 22: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Setrac
            and money is allocated to the lonely!

            Choose me as emperor and I will allocate money per kilometer
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 30 May 2013 21: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Choose me as emperor and I will allocate money per kilometer

              Plus bet, choose soldier
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 29 May 2013 18: 05 New
      +2
      I fully support you !!! Everyone is equal before the law and a thief in jail with confiscation, and a large grain to the wall and all this IMMEDIATELY !!! And then the stool is smeared, as if it should be !!
  21. fisherman
    fisherman 29 May 2013 10: 18 New
    +7
    They live very well at the expense of Russia. But instead of gratitude, they allow themselves stabbing and shooting at a Russian person. They allow, being under the cover of the Kremlin, to steal in such a way as to imagine it is not possible and easy to leave the country when the "king" puffs out their cheeks ...
    At ... Rena’s kindred, I’d better be an orphan.
    1. Svyatoslav72
      Svyatoslav72 3 June 2013 16: 06 New
      -1
      They believe that we owe and owe them, so they are so furious. AND! that they have a total okhu .... e, so this is a national character trait that has been “polished" since childhood. And what except Genocide and Terror can they offer? Yes! nothing, if only give everything and die yourself.
  22. avt
    avt 29 May 2013 10: 25 New
    0
    laughing ,, The Russian imperial mechanism with great creak but nevertheless is cranked up sometimes, as happened in the case of Chechnya. However, this happens less and less, and the costs of this process are growing. Costs, first of all, for the Russian people. An empire that does not provide protection, justice, or civilization becomes unnecessary to anyone and ceases to be an empire.
    Author Mikhail Andreev, publicist, Kiev "--------- Well, I would have written only that and wouldn’t have puffed up anymore. It’s a kind of justification for the worthlessness of modern Russia and the need for a geyput to Europe, well, it’s true that according to the article, what can be done to be independent in the enth Empire? Already barely cranking, and no one needs. laughing Here is Yanyk, all that was unnecessary, and came to Sochi’s GDP in Sochi to gasp the gas pipe that is the property of Ukraine. Well, in the case I want to say that the Empire is not only a territory, it’s also people with an IMPERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS request and one cannot exist without the other.
  23. Yarbay
    Yarbay 29 May 2013 10: 49 New
    +2
    *** Nevertheless, the opportunity to build factories and skyscrapers in Chechnya, instead of digging zindans and hostage businesses in the land, was provided precisely by Russia. And let them say that this is just filling the fire with money, a tribute that Moscow pays to Kadyrov, etc. *** -I don’t agree with the conclusions, before Kadyrov they also paid and invested a lot of money, but they could not achieve anything!
    There is a question, or rather the solution to the problem is different!
    1. avt
      avt 29 May 2013 11: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: Yarbay
      I don’t agree with the conclusions, before Kadyrov they also paid and invested a lot of money, but they could not achieve anything!
      There is a question, or rather the solution to the problem is different!

      That's for sure. You can clear Grozny from the rubble and then bomb again. Well, can it be like Kadyrov — he had Prime Minister Abramov, so for his pranks with a budget with a metal baseball bat, he personally looked so ... that he had to break the gelding and go on a thank-you speech on television, “the victim in a car accident” laughing
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 29 May 2013 12: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: avt
        Well, you can as Kadyrov

        Done right!
        It is Kadyrov’s personality, his strong-willed qualities and, apparently, organizational abilities that determined the course of events and the path to success!
        I have an ambiguous attitude towards his personality, but the fact that he coped with almost all the tasks that were assigned to him is a fact!
        And the fact that the Russian leadership did not pull him, but gave complete freedom of action, turned out to be correct, although I understand that this was not an easy decision!
        1. OTAKE
          OTAKE 30 May 2013 06: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          It is Kadyrov’s personality, his strong-willed qualities and, apparently, organizational abilities that determined the course of events and the path to success!

          I do not agree, Sulim Yamadayev or Maskhadov is better than Kadyrov
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 30 May 2013 07: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: OTAKE
            I do not agree, Sulim Yamadayev or Maskhadov is better than Kadyrov

            I'm not talking about who is better or worse!
            I am talking about the fact that this person completed the tasks assigned to him !!
            Could do it others don't know!
            1. OTAKE
              OTAKE 30 May 2013 08: 37 New
              +3
              Quote: Yarbay
              Quote: OTAKE
              I do not agree, Sulim Yamadayev or Maskhadov is better than Kadyrov

              I'm not talking about who is better or worse!
              I am talking about the fact that this person completed the tasks assigned to him !!
              Could do it others don't know!

              Mass executions and other minor pleasures on the “Mujahideen” did not have an effect. Kidnappings, killings of human rights defenders and fighters of federal troops continue under the strict guidance of Kadyrov. Also, Ramzan Batkovich periodically strangles the local population, which is why he again flees into the woods, where he (like militants and terrorists) is rolled out by local riot police under the ground level.
              According to the second Chechen pattern, it is necessary to destabilize the situation in the region by the hands of our own "terrorists", and then heroically on the white horse to "eliminate" them.
              In economic terms, it’s an oil painting: in the center of Grozny, ten new buildings were built, of which about half were populated, because local officials didn’t get dough for the kickbacks from local residents under the Tsar. The degree of destruction of the city greatly depends on the desire of the operator filming the report to turn the camera in the direction of the ruins, or in the direction of the title, freshly painted high-rise building.
  24. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 29 May 2013 10: 49 New
    +6
    I also affirm for a long time that I am absolutely convinced that until there is justice in the state, justice for all, regardless of nationality, religion, social status, until then we all sit on the powder keg. It is often asked on what such a common idea can multinational Russia be united. So this idea is JUSTICE. However, it seems to me that as long as some will rob and humiliate others, you can forget about justice. That's true, many officials rely on religion, it is religion (any) that calls for patience, humility, obedience, with all this to work, work, it does not matter who. And yet, a story that teaches no one and nothing shows that any patience, humility, humility, is coming to an end. What's next? even schoolchildren know.
  25. OLDTODD
    OLDTODD 29 May 2013 11: 02 New
    +1
    This is already a hackneyed record empire - not an empire, an older brother, etc. etc. You can call it in different ways, but the essence is the same, there are many who want to pull the country apart. "Pieces" are better off and the rest is dump. But if you look at the former USSR, who benefited from the collapse? People? The people are definitely not! The same Ukraine rushing about like ..... with its "smostostnost" but to the point? In this case, the parable about the broom and about individual twigs is perfectly appropriate. But in general, the article, in my opinion, is populist and empty.
    Why should Russia “guarantee its benefits for itself and bring them to others?”, Who obliged it?
    Now, in my opinion, everyone is free, and in all respects.
  26. teodorh
    teodorh 29 May 2013 11: 32 New
    -1
    Wait and see
  27. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 29 May 2013 11: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: IRBIS
    Quote: MIKHAN
    they began to crumble them indiscriminately with all available weapons except nuclear weapons ..

    I’ll disappoint you: nobody started crushing anyone there. They gave free corridors for the departure of the militants, gave the villages under the protection of "self-defense" detachments, completed the rifle companies of the commandants from Chechens (seasoned militants) and all that. As a result, the population in some villages increased sharply (due to militants who were amnestied and settled in them). ,

    This was already at the last stage of the second war .. First ironed !! aviation artillery rockets. Chechens émigrés recognized this on their websites themselves. (They didn’t think it would be so tough). And the most important thing is that the FSB and the GRU did a good job .. (primarily among our command staff ..) And it’s not yet known what the Kadyrovs were pressed against (I hardly think by persuasion and money, too) .. And most importantly, there were no Kovalev Berezovsky and other "defenders of rights" already .. In the Caucasus, only the Force is respected .. what is happening now (the main thing is not to turn your back ..) And buzz like in the 90s they won’t be able for a long time ..
    1. Egevich
      Egevich 29 May 2013 20: 15 New
      +1
      “one of my acquaintances has an acquaintance whose brother told” that in 1999-2000 they took very “harsh steps to establish constitutional order” and that’s why the Chechen people took the “right course” to send “shaitans” to the forefathers, because the very existence the people were in danger ... the Vostok and Zapad detachments were exclusively staffed by Chechens, but what can I say ... I personally like the new skyscrapers and plants in Grozny much more than the old mercenaries and past feuds .. .
      1. Svyatoslav72
        Svyatoslav72 3 June 2013 15: 59 New
        0
        No need to deceive yourself, and powder the brains of others that someone someone "poured into someone’s ears." Who was in the subject, or was following the news, well understands the principle of loyalty and encouragement, as there everything was done. If, with the beginning of the II-cross shame on the Caucasus, the voluntary units and formations were not disbanded, then the name would remain from the Chukhites. The Slavs were wild, for the I-failure, for the lawlessness and for the coercion of Power and the dull infantilism of the Army leadership. For the 2nd Chechen Betrayal, we are still paying tribute and are also sitting in the pan in the pan. You do not know the principles and rules of anti-sabotage and guerrilla warfare, do not bother to trade in the face looking for adventure. Such antics (Caucasian) are completely burned out, to the very root and another 10 meters deep. Then everything falls into place, and no one else bothers. AND! it is what is, a conflict with a deferment for the future.
  28. Terkin
    Terkin 29 May 2013 12: 11 New
    +3
    I believe that the main misfortune of our state is the rejection of the repressive function of power. The government is obliged to perform these functions (even if this government is very humane), Vasilyeva faces another criminal case, she will answer this with a new batch of poems.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 29 May 2013 17: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Terkin
      I believe that the main misfortune of our state is the rejection of the repressive function of power. The government is obliged to perform these functions (even if this government is very humane), Vasilyeva faces another criminal case, she will answer this with a new batch of poems.

      Something you are confused about - it is not a refusal to repress a function (no one has refused it), but the extreme selectivity of its use.
  29. Dima190579
    Dima190579 29 May 2013 12: 29 New
    0
    Russia simply must again be proudly called EMPIRE. The territory allows. Yes, and the people will support.
  30. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 29 May 2013 12: 31 New
    +1
    Small nations at one time did not swear allegiance to the Russian people, but to the Empire that he created. The higher the "imperial" of our state, the more tolerant small nations will be. For Ipmeria, strange as it sounds, is a way of self-identification, not a prison of nations. As far as I understand, the Russian people are not against increasing the "imperial" state.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 29 May 2013 12: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Jurkovs
      Small nations at one time did not swear allegiance to the Russian people, but to the Empire

      They swore allegiance to the autocrat.
      Quote: Jurkovs
      they swore not to the Russian people, but to the Empire that he created.

      It’s about the same as eating not a pie but its smell.
  31. Don
    Don 29 May 2013 13: 03 New
    -1
    The article is definitely a minus. Again, all mixed up. The author has cereal in his head and he poured it on the keyboard. Another critic.
  32. datur
    datur 29 May 2013 13: 39 New
    0
    RUSSIA!!! good -this is the EMPIRE !!!! good enemies we have
    void !! friends, love !!!
    PS - RUSSIAN PROVERBLE --- if the enemy does not surrender, then they will DESTROY him !!!!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 29 May 2013 13: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: datur
      PS - RUSSIAN PROVERBLE --- if the enemy does not surrender, then they will DESTROY him !!!!

      The first time I hear such a proverb! no
  33. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 29 May 2013 13: 48 New
    +1
    Prankish Monkey,
    Donkey,

    Yes clubfoot Bear
    They started to play the Quartet.
    We got notes, bass, viola, two violins
    And sat on a meadow under sticky, -
    Captivate your art light.
    Hit in the bows, tear, but no sense.
    “Wait, brothers, wait!” The Monkey shouts.
    Wait a minute
    How does music go?
    After all, you are not sitting like that.
    You with the bass, Misha, sit down against the viola,
    I, prima, will sit against the second;
    Then the music will not be the same:
    We will dance the forest and mountains! "
    Settled, started the Quartet;
    He is still in tune with her.
    “Wait, I found a secret? -
    Donkey screams, - we really get along,
    Kohl next sit down. "
    We listened to the Donkey: sit serenely in a row;
    Still, the Quartet neydet fret.
    Here more than ever they went to the analysis
    And disputes,
    Who and how to sit.
    Nightingale happened to fly their noise.
    Here, asking everything to him, so that they can be solved by doubt.
    "Perhaps, they say, take patience for an hour,
    To Quartet in order our lead:
    And we have the notes, and the instruments are,
    Just tell us how to sit down! "-
    "To be a musician, so imperative
    And your ears are poorer,
    The Nightingale answers them, -
    And you, friends, no matter how you sit down;
    You’re not good at musicians. "
  34. lexe
    lexe 29 May 2013 13: 55 New
    0
    In the Russian Empire, the leader of the pack was the Russian people. Only a pack can feed itself and give offspring to everyone who is in it. But a leader can bite anyone for not obeying - the law of nature is harsh. And what now? they make a sheep out of us. Is that like a sheep and an enemy? Stiffness is needed and it will be in the end in the interests of all. Another leader builds his own hard (USA) and feeds well. And insults will pass and there will be unity.
  35. Avenger711
    Avenger711 29 May 2013 13: 59 New
    +1
    as, for example, in cases of Polish oppression in Ukraine


    An incorrect example, the reunification of Russia is nothing but the liberation of the Russian people from the Polish occupation.
  36. iohanson
    iohanson 29 May 2013 13: 59 New
    0
    only empire! no unitary republics and other things ... but on the basis of the state of affairs in Russia, well, there’s the same experience of defeating the fifth column, so it’s not so bad, yes, there really are no other options
  37. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 29 May 2013 14: 12 New
    0
    The Russian state should be united, without any division into national republics, in the best case of the province.
  38. Avenger711
    Avenger711 29 May 2013 14: 15 New
    -1
    Another attempt from Kiev to prove that everything is bad here. Well, maybe imperfectly, but the local kings have been put in place here a long time ago. The process is on. Where money and power, where just power.
  39. wax
    wax 29 May 2013 14: 48 New
    0
    An empire that does not provide protection, justice, or civilization becomes unnecessary to anyone and ceases to be an empire.

    The message is completely wrong, because the author of the empire has something external, such as a cash cow. The empire is created by the peoples themselves (conquests, too, but that time has passed).
    Nobody needs fragmentation, except for prostitutional states, because otherwise they become easy prey for international structures, slaves.
  40. Pacifist
    Pacifist 29 May 2013 15: 14 New
    +1
    There are wonderful, somewhat controversial, somewhat true, but sensually correct verses.

    "In the morning, kissing the sun,
    measuring heaven with wings
    I soar the sparrow eagle
    above you, my empire.

    Looking around the territory
    I tumble in the atmosphere.
    I love your story
    I love you, Empire.

    Colonies fought us
    Ermaki, A.P. Ermolov,
    in Adygea and Polonia
    the non-Russians cut their heads.

    Wound up fields are not scanty
    the great Russian nation
    but a revolution happened -
    and assimilation went on.

    Russia took part with the Horde,
    It turned out Eseseriya.
    I love you, Empire.
    I love you, Empire.

    Fates united us by common,
    forced to sing in a single choir
    we sang, and father’s hands
    they beat us and set us up with cancer.

    We were joyful animals -
    became slippery reptiles.
    I love you Empire
    the realm of filth and violence.

    Unfavored, nasty,
    You see how baby I whimper
    looking at your sunset
    doomed greatness.

    Here comes a Japanese with a robot,
    a German will come running with a computer
    schnapps will be killed - and with a wild goggle
    they’ll take you apart.

    And then to hell with the dog I
    tearing myself into arteries
    and the pitch with a deflated ball
    on the ruins of the Empire.

    Nonsense! To hell! Forgive me, Motherland,
    a surge of momentary disbelief.
    I love you, Empire!
    I love you. Empire!

    On the mud at the swamps,
    where some frogs croaked,
    purple lotuses sprout
    and herons snooping between them.

    Where the ugly ducklings grazed,
    now swans are beating wings.
    Our girls became sweet
    from the back, sides and front.

    Walking through the capital,
    I no, no - and I pull the scythe
    then the Kyrgyz woman is chubby,
    then the Georgian is round-handed.

    And it doesn’t matter what is still
    no luck girls with faces
    but the souls became tender
    but the breasts became hard.

    In young boshki thoughts rummage,
    young people study hard.
    We will build what is built,
    we get what happens.

    But it turns out, I'm sure
    merry mystery.
    I love you, Empire.
    I love you, Empire "(c)
  41. washi
    washi 29 May 2013 15: 50 New
    0
    As, with his inherent genius, noted Our Great Leader, Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee Vladimir Vladimir Putin, in his report to the 37th Congress of the CPSU: “these were difficult days, but the Soviet people rallied, under the leadership of the party and personally Comrade Stalin, showed that the man of labor truly cannot be defeated
    A. Samokhvalov "combat reversal"
  42. Svyatoslav72
    Svyatoslav72 29 May 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    Empire is above all, Nation is above empire. There was one right way in the Caucasus: - Either kill them all, or separate them and not let them in (deport the legalized ones). The Government of the Russian Federation acted as a prostitute, took the second path: - Loyalty in exchange: for ignorance of direct hostilities; "closing eyes" on the export of banditry and extremism in the nearby territory, and crime throughout the territory of the Russian Federation; forgiveness and encouragement, feeding with loot and non-interference in the internal affairs of Ichkeria. On that and decided, found the most convenient and acceptable. Everyone knows, and historically-practically proved, that one should not look for oneself in the allies of "wolves in sheep's clothing." But! for the corrupt and treacherous "elite" it is acceptable and convenient.
    The Russian Federation does not guarantee, and cannot, preserve its territory (law and order) and its statehood due to the capital-fascist development path (where Islamic fascism is only an ally of the Russian Masonic Oligarchy).
    PS Wildly amused (amused) the listing of offers and guarantees for Chechnya (Chechens). They didn’t ramp up the cops with the cops, they specifically and unequivocally fought for their right to destroy the Russians and keep them in slavery. AND! The Russians have only one reaction to their desire, and not just reconciliation and trade. It is necessary to choose the right allies / fellow citizens and in no way to the detriment of themselves.
    1. washi
      washi 1 June 2013 17: 12 New
      +2
      The empire should be the main preservation of the indigenous people. This was not with the king. This was not after Stalin. He was the only one who apologized to the Russian people. In various ways, including repression, he tried to save the Russian people.
      1. Svyatoslav72
        Svyatoslav72 2 June 2013 20: 20 New
        -1
        For many centuries, Russians have been an experimental people, they are constantly destroying it and using everything to their advantage. Therefore, he can not confidently declare himself, and take its historical place. There are no Ideologists, no Politicians, no Leaders, and now we are potentially surrendering both qualitatively and quantitatively. It is unfortunate that the fashion of Genocide and Corruption does not end. Such is the harsh World of reality, everyone is pushing the falling and no one is raising the fallen.
  43. T-baev
    T-baev 29 May 2013 17: 50 New
    +1
    A. and R. Kadyrov are patriots of their people. And when they saw that those leaders of Chechnya would lead it to obscurantism, violence and eventually to the complete disappearance of Chechens as a nation
    , then they courageously took the brunt of that time upon themselves. Such people, I think Russia should cherish.
    1. washi
      washi 1 June 2013 17: 21 New
      +1
      These are their mercantile interests. They need subordinates.
      Originally, Russian slaves cannot be.
      Russians hate all forms of slavery. They deny laws if they interfere with their survival. They value the whip, which helps them survive in difficult natural conditions, and they hate those who interfere with this. The community is the only possible form of coexistence in conditions when nature itself is against
  44. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 29 May 2013 18: 27 New
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    Asgard:
    As for the destruction of the Chechens as a nation I agree ....

    Well then, take a machine gun in your hands and go shoot Chechens. Chatting all over.
    Not all Chechens are bad, moral in any nation.
    1. Arhaik
      Arhaik 29 May 2013 20: 01 New
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      Asgard:
      As for the destruction of the Chechens as a nation I agree ...
      I understand that this is not right. I would like to object. but not what
  45. Arhaik
    Arhaik 29 May 2013 19: 55 New
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    Interesting. Who is the author of the poems? or he is.
  46. Skuto
    Skuto 29 May 2013 20: 08 New
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    Here they wrote about the empire as a form of government, I will take off a short excerpt from work:
    it is like a three-column table:
    1 Federation column
    The territory of the federation consists of the territories of its individual entities: states, cantons, lands, republics, etc.
    In a federal state, the supreme legislative, executive and judicial power is vested in the federal state bodies.

    The competence between the federation and its subjects is divided by the union (federal) Constitution.

    The subjects of the federation have the right to adopt their own Constitution, have their highest legislative, executive and judicial bodies.

    In most federations, there is a single union citizenship and the citizenship of federal units.

    Under the federal government, the parliament has a chamber representing the interests of members of the federation.

    The main national and foreign policy activities in the federations are carried out by the Union state bodies. They officially represent the federation.

    Unitaria

    The territory of a unitary state consists of administrative-territorial units.
    The constituent parts of a unitary state do not possess signs of sovereignty
    The highest authorities for the whole country;

    Unified system of legislation;
    There is no delimitation of competence;

    A single constituent regulatory legal act for the entire state (or a combination of such acts), the norms of which have supremacy throughout the country;

    Single citizenship;

    One monetary unit.

    Empire

    The territory of the empire can consist of both administrative-territorial units (provinces, provinces, counties), and may include semi-independent entities (Finland, Poland, etc.)

    The supreme bodies of power uniform for the whole country, however, the existence of independent bodies among semi-independent entities is allowed, with the restriction that the head of state is recognized as the same for all.

    Allocation of competence between the empire as a whole and its individual entities is allowed with the direct permission of the head of state.

    Along with a single constituent act for the entire state, similar acts may take place in the territories of its constituent entities, with the direct permission of the head of state.

    Dual citizenship is also allowed.

    There is no second chamber in parliament for subjects.

    The imperial form of government is more dependent on the presence of a real strong head of state and the ruling elite.

    Who cares, I can throw an excerpt from the chapter, and not so thesis)))
    1. washi
      washi 1 June 2013 17: 27 New
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      why the theory. Take the British Empire of the 19th, early 20th century. The destruction of the indigenous population, the first concentration camps. Or the USA - the same thing. RI - "subordinate" peoples - had to live according to the laws of RI, to provide land for garrisons. AND EVERYTHING.
  47. Conepatus
    Conepatus 29 May 2013 20: 51 New
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    Kadyrov was given a choice, money + power (albeit only in Chechnya, but there he is No. 1), or stupidly a bullet in the temple, or another part of the body, but still fatal. Article minus. Somewhere in the middle of this reading, he spat and went to drink coffee to clean his brains.
    The author urgently change the grass.
  48. Altor86
    Altor86 29 May 2013 20: 54 New
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    Dreams of imperium. Well, a weak country cannot be an empire. Why are we building castles in the air? We are seriously discussing the supply of S-300 to Syria. Where are the diamonds from ... We have our own air defenses! Is there really no military on the site? Tell me our opinion. And then, as we wrote in one of the posts, almost 100 S-300 regiments. Where?
    1. washi
      washi 1 June 2013 17: 39 New
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      They tried and are trying to create a guilty complex before the so-called world community. It is possible to see this among individual bodies.
      We never had an empire. We had a state.
      Even during the "evil empire" we did not have a sun to cover the entire border.
  49. Kryl
    Kryl 29 May 2013 23: 08 New
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    Very competent article. ALL of our problems are outlined in a couple of paragraphs. You can’t say better. Deep man.
  50. grandfather
    grandfather 29 May 2013 23: 22 New
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    a journalist from Kiev correctly stated everything in historical terms, the ambitions of the Russian Empire (USSR) (EES) (TS).
    Russia has experienced hard times since the collapse of the USSR, but the imperial flywheel has not gone away, it just slowed down very much.
    BUT: but accelerated movements are attached to it, such events as Yugoslavia, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria.
    100% Russians make long trips but drive fast. Syria is a red line with the transition of which (supposedly provosts) of the world there is a risk of instability throughout the world, since Russia will have to fight for its survival and there will be little for anyone, they will get everything ...
    honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with imperial ambitions, since every person has these ambitions, only to the extent of his understanding (worldview).
    so, I think this pendulum will swing towards Syria and Central Asia, because it’s no secret to anyone what the CSTO is currently doing in Central Asia, Russia is present in almost all the stressed regions of the world, and everything is monitoring everything near its borders.
    in Syria I will not argue, he will not surrender Syria to the Russian Federation, it just starts the real work for the military, because the ATS is a strategic ally in the region ...
    the flywheel is accelerating.
    and ambition is good, but where without them)
    1. washi
      washi 1 June 2013 17: 59 New
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      What are your ambitions? Russia conquered the Caucasus, Central Asia, Crimea, Bessarabia to get rid of the slave trade. From there, raids were constantly carried out. Baltic States - removed the bridgehead to attack us (Catholic orders, then the Germans, Poles, Swedes) and returned the original Slavic lands.
      We just don’t want us to get in the way and climb with our rules. We took Berlin 3 times and Paris. We have enough of our territory. But part of our lands was taken from us, and now they need to be restored. Ainu, Rus, Uighurs, Dolgans, Eskimos, Slovenes and other nationalities speak of their oppression in the territories of border states. But they are part of the RUSSIAN ethos