North Korea will stand with Russia until Victory: The Kremlin received the North Korean Foreign Minister.

Vladimir Putin once again expressed gratitude to the leadership and people of the DPRK for Russia's assistance in conducting a special military operation. The Russian leader made this statement during a meeting with North Korean Foreign Minister Choi Son-hui.

Vladimir Putin and Choi Sung-hee met at the Kremlin. According to the Russian president's press service, in addition to Putin himself, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and presidential aide Yuri Ushakov were also present on the Russian side. No serious issues were raised in the presence of the press; the two sides exchanged greetings and made several statements.

The Russian president praised the current relations between Russia and the DPRK and once again expressed gratitude to the republic's leadership and people for their assistance in liberating the Kursk region from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The president emphasized that the heroic deeds of Korean soldiers will never be forgotten in Russia. The Russian leader also conveyed greetings to North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

North Korean Foreign Minister Choi Son-hui, in turn, stated that the republic has chosen a course of strategic cooperation with Russia, a position recently confirmed by Kim Jong-un. According to the Korean minister, the DPRK will "stand firmly by Russia's side" until victory. The North Korean leader gave instructions to look no further and to assist Russia in any way possible.

It is noted that the DPRK Foreign Minister arrived in Russia at the invitation of Sergey Lavrov, so negotiations at the level of foreign ministers and delegations, including behind closed doors, are ahead. Such invitations are not issued without reason, and high-level meetings are not held.

Comments

[andrey martov]

What if, with the support of the DPRK, we win?

[Silver99]

It's fine words, but Russia hasn't officially lifted sanctions against North Korea in international organizations. This disgrace of the Yeltsin-Kozyrev era persists despite informal contacts.

[KCA]

It hasn't been officially cancelled, but North Korea and Russia do have a land border, albeit a small one, and neither the populists nor their minions know what's going on there.

[LaraM]

and what's moving back and forth there,

So, is it scary to openly admit that they don't give a damn about the sanctions and are quietly doing something? And when the secret becomes clear and the hegemon hits us with another blockade, what will they do? Aren't you tired of constantly fawning over this Trump, while arranging a rat race behind his back? It looks so cheap. They openly said: we're on Kyiv's side and we're helping. And we're still afraid of something, all quietly.

[gsev]

Quote from Silver99

This disgrace of the Yeltsin-Kozyrev rule is in effect despite informal contacts.

What do Yeltsin and Kozyrev have to do with this? They didn't impose sanctions against North Korea. It was Putin and Lavrov who imposed the harshest sanctions against North Korea in 2019 and refuse to lift them. Yeltsin stopped trading with North Korea on credit and demanded that North Koreans pay for Russian goods in American currency. Yeltsin's sudden imposition of this measure triggered a famine in North Korea. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: gsev

There is a famine in the DPRK. Hundreds of thousands of people have died.

Is it possible to see the sources of such figures?

[smart fellow]

Yeltsin stopped trading with North Korea on credit...

Not Yeltsin, but Gorbachev in 1991.

Yeltsin's sudden introduction of this measure triggered a famine in North Korea.

Food shortages were primarily caused by natural disasters that struck North Korea in the 90s, which resembled climate warfare (the US was still experimenting with it at the time). During the Storm of the Century in the Yellow (West) Sea, waves reached 12 meters high, overflowing dams and flooding fields. Rains flooded mines and washed away terraced fields on mountain slopes. The rains were followed by droughts, and this pattern continued for several years.
There was no foreign currency to buy food abroad, and the only aid came from China, from Chinese Koreans (and probably from Russian Koreans as well). There was a TV report of an endless line of trucks laden with food crossing the border between China and North Korea. But this wasn't enough, and the UN wasn't so much providing aid as sending observers to keep the US informed—according to US analysts, North Korea was destined to collapse, and there was no need to fight the Koreans.

Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Officially, about 100 people died during the "Arduous March." Wikipedia used to estimate the death toll of the famine in the USSR in the tens of millions, but now they've curbed their appetite and started counting in millions.

[gsev]

Quote: smart fellow

There was no currency to buy food abroad and the only aid came from China from Chinese Koreans.

But it was Yeltsin who did not sell coal, fuel, and grain to North Korea on credit when the coal mines flooded and power plants began to shut down without coal.

[Vovavvs]

P.S. Gorbachev didn't give the unfortunate 500 tons of fuel, which is why Najibullah's military equipment stopped...

[smart fellow]

At that time, Russia itself took out loans and received humanitarian aid, including from the United States. Japan allocated approximately $300 million for the dismantling of nuclear submarines in Russia. At the same time, Japan allocated $5 or $15 billion, but this money went to Japanese companies for the purchase of equipment and services for Russia, i.e., not directly.

[gsev]

Quote: smart fellow

At that time, Russia itself took out loans and received humanitarian aid, including from the United States.

To sell abroad, one must offer either a deferred payment or a trade credit. A year later, North Korea would have paid for the goods with metal-cutting machines or greenhouse equipment. And Yeltsin wouldn't have had to buy exorbitantly expensive machine tools from Germany and Switzerland, or greenhouses from Holland.

[Montezuma]

Quote from Silver99

It's fine words, but Russia hasn't officially lifted sanctions against North Korea in international organizations. This disgrace of the Yeltsin-Kozyrev era persists despite informal contacts.

Before throwing around loud accusations, it's important to first understand that the sanctions imposed against North Korea at the international level can only be officially lifted by a unanimous vote of the permanent members of the UN Security Council. Besides Russia and China, there are three other permanent members of the Security Council—the United States, France, and the United Kingdom—who would never vote for such a decision. Therefore, Russia simply stopped enforcing them.
In addition, in March 2024:

Russia voted against a US-sponsored resolution in the UN Security Council to extend the mandate of the special group of experts monitoring sanctions against North Korea. Russian authorities believe the sanctions, which are aimed at stifling North Korea, should be reviewed. The US and its allies expressed regret over Russia's veto, accusing Moscow of undermining international efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and linking its decision to the conflict in Ukraine.

[gsev]

Quote: Montezuma

Before throwing out loud accusatory phrases, we must first understand that the sanctions once imposed against the DPRK at the international level can only be officially lifted by a unanimous decision of the permanent members of the UN Security Council.

What's the problem with circumventing them? Russia receives shells, weapons, and missiles from the DPRK as humanitarian aid, and in return, supplies humanitarian aid ranging from grain to petroleum products. If we strictly follow your logic, the spirit of the UN sanctions decisions, and Russian laws enforcing them, then all surviving North Korean soldiers after the victory in the Kursk region, along with Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov, should be imprisoned for several years for recruiting North Korean migrants to certain activities prohibited by international sanctions.

[Vovavvs]

What does Gerasimov have to do with this? No need to cling to other people's victories...

[gsev]

Quote: VovaVVS

What does Gerasimov have to do with this? No need to cling to other people's victories...

By allowing North Korea to fight against Ukrainians in the Kursk region, Russia de facto lifted sanctions against North Korea. All military personnel, including Gerasimov, should be convicted and imprisoned under laws passed by the State Duma after 2017, designed to enforce sanctions against North Korea. The Western world is laughing at Putin and the Russian State Duma, which failed to waive the criminal sentence for firing North Korean ammunition at Ukrainians before using North Korean ammunition and machine guns on the front lines. If Yavlinsky comes to power, he will have every right to imprison all pro-Putin figures under these laws passed by Putin from 2017 to 2021 for five years. If Russia violated sanctions by using North Korean shells against Ukrainians and is unable to prevent Ukrainian doctors from extracting fragments of these shells from the bodies of Ukrainian punitive forces and sending them to a lab somewhere in Germany for analysis, then the sanctions should have been openly lifted in advance. The West is not making a fuss only because it fears Russia's complete disregard for sanctions against North Korea, which will lead to North Korea using China to solve the drone problem the same way it solved the shell problem. Analyzing a fragment and determining its origin based on the results is much easier than with the substances that poisoned Litvinenko and Navalny.

[tralflot1832]

Alexander, Russia simply blocked the extension of the mandate of the commission monitoring compliance with sanctions against North Korea at the UN Security Council. Let the UN Security Council say whatever it wants, without a certificate (mandate) it's just verbal diarrhea against North Korea, Russia, and China.

[bayard]

Quote from Silver99

However, Russia has not officially lifted sanctions against North Korea in international organizations.

All these sanctions were lifted by the alliance treaty between Russia and the DPRK. All sanctions have been thrown into the fire; the DPRK gets everything it needs and supplies and produces everything we need.
We have a military alliance and a comprehensive partnership.
Comprehensive, this means no restrictions.

[Derbenev Anton]

What if, with the support of the DPRK, we win?

Do you think they will hit decision-making centers like Iran?

[traveler 63]

Quote: Andrey Martov

What if, with the support of the DPRK, we win?

We will win! And with North Korea's support, it will happen sooner!

[faterdom]

A huge thank you to them. They turned out to be our only 100% friends and allies. Despite the years of contempt from our elite (do you want a North Korean version?) and the country's third-generation leadership.

[Sancheas]

There are no allies or friends in politics. It's just something that's advantageous for someone right now. That's all. All we have is the navy, the army, the Aerospace Forces, and...

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote from Sancheas

We only have the navy, the army, the Aerospace Forces and...

And the Unmanned Systems Troops!

[Seal]

Both the Aerospace Forces and the Military Forces are still the Army. It's probably more accurate to say: We only have the Navy, Army and FSB (+FSO).

[d4.fokin]

We also have Belarusians, we must not forget about them, and respect and admiration for the Koreans.

[drags33]

The Belarusians wouldn't forget about us... Bat'ka is quite the multi-chair man...

[AllX_VahhaB]

And after Batka, it’s completely unknown where Belarus will turn...

[DBR]

Quote from: d4.fokin

We also have Belarusians, we must not forget about them, and respect and admiration for the Koreans.

Life has shown who our real allies are, in contrast to our various CSTO partners and two-faced China.

[Vovavvs]

Well, why the only ones? Let's remember the Iranian supplies at critical moments in the Central Asian War. And the 5000 Cubans fighting in the Central Asian War.

[rocket757]

Well, what can I say... we'll see how and how far it goes...

[Reptiloid]

Victor, it's good that this collaboration has already yielded results. I hope there will be further development.

[gmss]

Always for the DPRK +
I hope that in the near future another limited contingent of the KPA will be deployed to the border area to reinforce or rotate our units (for example, in the Bryansk region, or maybe somewhere else)
The 2024 Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement doesn't prohibit this (but rather implies it). In addition to the experience in assault operations gained in the Kursk region, our friends could also benefit from skills in air defense, sabotage/counter-sabotage operations, reconnaissance, and so on.
P.S. At one time, while studying at the VABTV, I had the honor of communicating with officers from the special department from the DPRK, and the impressions were extremely respectful - these guys are ironclad!!!

[Nikita Che]

In fact, as soon as any window, any crack, any hole, any opportunity to reintegrate into the Western fold, do business, or the lifting of sanctions (especially those personal to officials and their families) appears, the so-called "elite" will instantly forget about the DPRK, you'll see. Because they deeply despise them, considering them a slavish, failed state incapable of building even a basic aligarchic state with which to swagger around Courchevel and Las Vegas. I even feel sorry for the Koreans; they've truly proven themselves to be reliable comrades.

[taiga2018]

Quote: Nikita Che

The so-called "elite" of the DPRK will forget in a moment, you'll see.

So it will be that they should betray another people if they betray and sell out their own.

[Skobaristan]

And a question for you. Why do you think your Korean comrades are fools? You know they'll be betrayed, but they say they'll stand by Russia until victory.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Skobaristan

And a question for you. Why do you think your Korean comrades are fools? You know they'll be betrayed, but they say they'll stand by Russia until victory.

It's not about the Korean comrades at all. Your opponents are trying to push the idea that the Russian leadership is full of traitors, capable of betraying an ally at any moment and trampling on any concluded agreement. Look at the flowery phrases they use, just to make it thicker and stinkier:

Because they deeply despise them, considering them a slavish, quasi-state incapable of building even a basic aligarchic state with which to swagger around Courchevel and Las Vegas. I even feel sorry for the Koreans; they've truly proven themselves to be reliable comrades.

Oh, how they even took pity on the Koreans in advance of this, the warm-hearted and caring compassionates. It's a circus and hilarious.

Oh, how the downvotes will start pouring in from offended clowns now.

[Skobaristan]

You'll scare away all my "fish" 🤣

[traveler 63]

Quote: Montezuma

Oh, how the downvotes will come pouring in from offended clowns now!

I gave you a minus! Even though I think you're a clown!

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: Montezuma

Oh, how the downvotes will start pouring in from offended clowns now.

They might not rain down now, but closer to the evening or even tomorrow - yes. (I judge from my own experience)

[Fan-fan]

You're a clown yourself. The new Russia has betrayed all its allies; it would take too long to list them, but I'll name a few.
1. The Russian leadership refused to defend East German leader Erich Honecker and intelligence chief Markus Wolf. They were extradited to a united Germany, where they were tried, despite their long-standing service to the ideals of socialism.
2. Historical episodes in Cuba and Vietnam, which in Havana and Hanoi were perceived as “betrayal” or a unilateral refusal of allied obligations on the part of Moscow.
3. And how we kept the Russians in Donbas in suspense for eight years, trying to force them into Ukraine with the Minsk agreements? There are plenty of Russians living outside of Russia, and they all feel abandoned by Russia. Isn't that betrayal? The list of betrayals is endless.

[Skobaristan]

Do you feel sorry for the Koreans? Who, according to you, have already been almost betrayed by the Russian leadership: the so-called "elite" will forget about the DPRK in a moment, you'll see. Why do you consider Koreans gullible fools?

[Derbenev Anton]

North Korea could have earned up to $13 billion from the Russia-Ukraine conflict, according to the Japanese publication Nikkei Asia.

North Korea's foreign currency income and the value of energy supplies for the three years starting in 2022 amounted to at least $13 billion. The DPRK received all of this from Russia in exchange for military aid. As a Japanese magazine notes, North Korea's annual GDP, according to some estimates, is between $12 and $26 billion.
Just a business.

[Skobaristan]

Let's leave aside the fact that the Japanese publication will most likely write about the DPRK in a certain way. Business can simply be done quietly, without attracting attention. Like China or India, for example, with their energy sector. And your attempt to explain it doesn't explain the main point. The first commentators said the Russian authorities would betray North Korea. How can they betray it if it's just a trade deal? Absolutely not.

[Derbenev Anton]

So they conduct business quietly; no one writes openly about arms supplies from the DPRK. Money in the morning, chairs in the evening. Commentators on betrayal were probably referring to former allies: Libya, Syria, Venezuela, drawing an analogy. Besides the trade agreement, they also signed an agreement on military aid. Well, North Korea has nuclear weapons; who would touch them? It's not Iran.

[Skobaristan]

So, the Japanese newspaper attempt didn't work. Okay. Let's start with the allies. Was a military alliance formed with Libya, and was it betrayed? Could you tell me when this alliance was formed? In Syria, our troops worked until the very end, and stopped striking when the army itself fled. Where are the violations of their obligations? Venezuela. Was there a request for any military assistance? Well, let's try again. The second attempt also didn't work. But the most important thing is, why did you join this thread? Where did I ask a specific question: why do they consider the Koreans fools who will definitely be betrayed by the Russian leadership? Even if we accept your position, Russia betrayed Libya, Syria, and Venezuela?

[Derbenev Anton]

What do you mean he didn't get out? Are you talking to yourself? The DPRK is making a good living off this, and they provided significant assistance in the Kursk region to avoid major losses on our side, since the prisoners were already gone in Bakhmut.

Even if we accept your position, Russia betrayed Libya, Syria and Venezuela?

Read more carefully, I was writing about the commentators.

Why did you enter this thread?

Is this prohibited?)

Where I asked a specific question: why do they consider Koreans fools who will definitely be betrayed by the Russian leadership?

Well, if that's what you think, then it's up to you to answer. You've mixed up all the comments with your own opinions and are asking confusing questions.

[Skobaristan]

This is already interesting. Let's get back to it. What does your comment with the link 🔗 to a Japanese newspaper have to do with my comment / you wrote a reply to it: Do you feel sorry for the Koreans? Who, according to you, have almost been betrayed by the Russian leadership: the so-called "elite" will forget about the DPRK in a moment, you'll see (c). Why do you think Koreans are gullible fools?...

[Derbenev Anton]

It's truly interesting. You're already quoting yourself and asking yourself questions. Keep going. It certainly looks funny from the outside, but at the same time, it's worrying for you.

[Skobaristan]

No. I think you understand perfectly well what I mean. And now you're trying to "save face." Well, let me repeat the question. Why do you think Koreans are naive fools? After all, in response to this question, you started writing me a quote from a Japanese newspaper. So, what's your answer?

[Derbenev Anton]

You yourself wrote that Koreans are fools, and now you're trying to attribute it to everyone. Your comments seem to be all mixed up in your head. How can they be fools if they're making money off of it? And that woman came for a reason, too. And she's probably got some military men with her. Personnel, weapons, technology. There's nothing new under the sun.

[Skobaristan]

No, I didn't write that Koreans are stupid. You lied. But then again, you came here to manipulate. Do you want me to show you the whole mechanism?

[Skobaristan]

So you don't want to. You decided to continue throwing things in other threads. Well, I understand.

[Waifu]

The DPRK knows perfectly well who they're dealing with and what kind of elite sits in Russia. Don't dismiss them as naive fools.

[Skobaristan]

And who are they dealing with? You can expand on this thought.

[poquello]

Quote: Skobaristan

And who are they dealing with? You can expand on this thought.

Well, an hour has passed and there's still no answer. Maybe their manual recommends not to get involved in polemics?

[Skobaristan]

Let's wait. The gentleman or comrade hasn't read it yet, judging by the visitor data on his profile.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: Skobaristan

Let's wait. Sir or comrade hasn't read it yet.

Our Anton is developed beyond his years and can barely read by syllables (quote: almost)

[Fan-fan]

They're dealing with traitors. Who spent eight years trying to drive the Russians in Donbas back to Ukraine? And who abandoned the millions of Russians who found themselves outside of Russia? Who denied Honecker salvation? Who unilaterally terminated treaties with Cuba and Vietnam? Who voted in the UN for sanctions against North Korea and Iran?

[Skobaristan]

So the Koreans know they're dealing with traitors, and we'll be together until victory. Doesn't that bother you?

[gsev]

Quote: Nikita Che

The so-called "elite" will forget about the DPRK in a moment, you'll see.

The Russian elite is expected to overthrow Putin, pay reparations to Ukraine and the West, and disarm, including the complete renunciation of nuclear weapons. Just as bandits, embezzlers, thieves, and racketeers came to power in Russia in 1992, so too, under the new Western takeover, all of this is expected to repeat itself, but this time with the complete destruction of the Russian people.

[Derbenev Anton]

The Russian elite is expected to overthrow Putin.

Yeah. And Abramovich and the Mikhelsons. They're saying the Rotenbergs have fled, perhaps to their historical homeland. But why overthrow them when the number of billionaires is growing?

[LaraM]

I even feel sorry for the Koreans, they really showed themselves to be reliable comrades.

Yes) Doesn't Kim really see where his level and approach to the US is, when he even refused to meet with Trump until America fulfills his demands, and what approach do these people have, rushing with shining eyes to Alaska and dreaming of becoming friends as soon as possible))

[Ivan№One]

It seems like September 11, 2017, and UN Security Council Resolution 2375 were not that long ago, but it turns out that an eternity has passed.

[kill the fascist]

The best Koreans not only helped us drive the Banderogeys out of the Kursk region, but also continue to help us rebuild the war-ravaged region. I hope this is a two-way relationship, and the country of the best Koreans also benefits from this cooperation.

[Waifu]

How embarrassing it is to face the DPRK in the 90s...

[Oleg 1968]

It's interesting how the girls dance... Why isn't the red-haired clown making a move on the DPRK?

[Waifu]

He already made a fuss in 2017 and was sent to the whole world as a demonstration.

[gsev]

Quote: Oleg 1968

Why doesn't the red-haired clown make a move on the DPRK?

Some believe that North Korean air defense is more powerful than Russia's. Furthermore, it may be reinforced by China's.

[aszzz888]

gsev
(Gusev Vladimir)
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Quote: Oleg 1968
Why doesn't the red-haired clown make a move on the DPRK?

Some people believe that...

Jews began to "count"? Oh well...
And yes, you've gone a bit pale) you... it seems like the Merikatos have passed diarrhea on to the Jews You take care of yourself there, otherwise the VO will be left without a duty officer from Israel...

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Montezuma

Quote: Vauxhall

They'll betray you as usual. The Kremlin ones.
The Jews want the destruction of the Slavs.

Could you elaborate on the Kremlin Jews who want to exterminate the Slavs? Names, positions, facts, evidence? Please share this valuable information with the public, as you probably have it in detail. We're looking forward to the reveal of this damning incriminating evidence.

Kiriyenko is Israeli on his father's side.
Moshe Izrailevich Sagal (née Chubais).
Deputy prime ministers and governors who fled to Israel (Khloponin and his wife, for example).
It seems the AP's HR department selected job candidates based on ethnicity. And what about "our" bloodsucking oligarchs? Almost all of them are Israeli citizens.

[Sansan]

Rather, these are retaliatory measures against the backdrop of increasing anti-Russian steps by Tokyo and Seoul, and the protection of Russian borders on distant approaches

[snow mountain]

Quote: drags33

Dad is quite the multi-chair man...

In any case, it’s better than our other “friends” in the CSTO.

[bbb]

Maybe a few more Koreans will come to help.

[Fan-fan]

They're the ones who should be building nuclear power plants, not Turkey and Kazakhstan. After all, we're still building them on credit, meaning we're paying for them ourselves, and they're supposedly going to pay for electricity for 25 years. We need to help them develop their economies and so on. They fought shoulder to shoulder with us, and that's costly.

[Major Whirlwind]

Quote: KCA

It hasn't been officially cancelled, but North Korea and Russia do have a land border, albeit a small one, and neither the populists nor their minions know what's going on there.

It's not about the precinct, but about a political decision and a desire to tread lightly. Apparently, those at the top, accustomed to permanent tenure, are still hoping for friendship with their partners.