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Slovak modernization of BMP-2

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Slovak modernization of BMP-2

A Slovak infantry fighting vehicle BVP-M2013 SKCZ was presented at the IDET-2 exhibition in the Czech city of Brno, according to altair.com. Great interest in the car expressed Czech armed forces.


The machine is based on the BVP-2 (manufactured under license in Czechoslovakia BMP-2, it is also possible to upgrade the base BMP-1). The body underwent a complete rework: the roof of the car was raised to 270 mm, the bottom became double (the space between the two sheets was filled with foam). Also updated machine control.

The internal layout is made similar to Western military vehicles. The front seat is the driver, followed by the commander and gunner. Fuel tanks and batteries are installed in higher fencing niches. Six infantrymen are located face to face on the seats attached to the sides of the troop compartment. Additional space is behind the driver, which may be intended, for example, for a platoon commander. However, his place is not equipped with a separate hatch, as it was on the BVP-2.

Armament is represented by a combat module with a remote control TOUR-30, including 30-mm 2-42 cannon and 12,7-mm NSV machine gun. The module is equipped with an independent panoramic sight.

BVP-M2 SKCZ is a joint development of the Slovak VOP Trecin and the Czech Excalibur Army, which are building the body, and the Slovak EVPU responsible for the combat module. The installation of a Polish night instrument for the driver PNK-72 Radomka used on the Rosomaka BTR is not excluded.
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  1. klimpopov
    klimpopov 28 May 2013 12: 16
    17
    And what, it’s very much mine ... The question is the price of modernization.
    Naryl a couple of pictures on the network.



    [img] http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/DSCF3285 [1] -700x525.jpg [/ img]
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 12: 20
      +1
      There, from the behi, only the suspension remained. Yes, and that, well, very much changed.
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 28 May 2013 12: 32
      +2
      Here are
      http://alternathistory.org.ua/bmp-2-takaya-kakoi-vy-ee-eshche-ne-videli-bvp-m2-s


      kcz-chekhiyaslovakiya
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 28 May 2013 12: 44
      +2
      Outwardly beautiful, but it does not float 100%, not a word is said about the armor (acre bottoms)!
    4. bask
      bask 28 May 2013 13: 05
      +8
      Quote: klimpopov
      . The question is the price of modernization.

      LIFE SOLDIER ROAD !!!
      No more than ours.
      The main thing was to remove the fuel tanks from the fighting compartment and aft doors.
      And they did mine defense.
      The machine was raised by 270 mm, the bottom became double.
      (the space between the two sheets is filled with foam). Also updated machine controls.

      BMP, in the first place should be reliably protected by armor, the crew and the landing. And after dismounting, actively maintain fire.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 28 May 2013 13: 40
        +3
        In general, I will support, especially if you take into account the number of BMP - 2 in the troops, then perhaps the modernization is advisable. Although I am all the same for "BOOK".
        1. bask
          bask 28 May 2013 16: 07
          +1
          Quote: klimpopov
          If BMP - 2 is in the army, it is possible to upgrade

          Modernization of BMP-1,2, at storage bases and troops-THOUSAND.
          And with competent modernization ((approximately like the Slovak version)), the BMP-2 will last another 10 years at least.
          The whole reserve for carrying capacity BMP-2.
          The combat module ((so as not to make the turret heavier))) with a 30 mm cannon can be left the same.
          Replace only the JMA with a modern one.
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 28 May 2013 16: 11
            +2
            Again, you can upgrade and sell to third countries and buy new ones for yourself. Well, if desired, and political will.
            1. bask
              bask 28 May 2013 16: 55
              +3
              Quote: klimpopov
              Again, you can upgrade and sell to third countries and buy new ones for yourself.

              I agree, but there are no new ones yet ((we are waiting for Kurganets)). But the BMP-3 is not much superior to the BMP-2 in terms of security.
              Armament, yes on the BMP-3 ,, triad ,, BEST BATTLE MODULE WORLD.
              But their release, a few dozen a year, does not save the situation (((CATASTROPHIC)). With the absence of modern armored vehicles in the RA troops.
              But ,, Kurganets ,,, until the year 20 in the troops will not be ((if there are units))).
              Only one thing remains. MODERNIZATION BMP-2 !!!
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 28 May 2013 17: 12
                +1
                In general, it is difficult to disagree. Again, it is possible that they will not be modernized because "there are so many" and there in 20m there are new ones at once and a lot, not that I was a pissimist, I just know our leadership and judge by its deeds.
                1. bask
                  bask 28 May 2013 18: 45
                  +3
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  20m new at once and a lot, not that I was a pissimist, I just know our leadership and judge by business

                  It’s hard to disagree with you.
                  I repeat. The modernization of the BMP-2 is now the only measure, at least somehow stabilize the situation.
                  Otherwise, motorized rifles will generally be left without infantry fighting vehicles.
                  We need at least a thousand BMP-1,2. TTX as Slovak modernization.
                  Modernization of the BMP-1,2. Czech company Excalibur Army. In 2012.
      2. astra
        astra 28 May 2013 14: 01
        +5
        I agree - you can’t save on the lives of soldiers. You can sacrifice buoyancy for the sake of additional reservation, V-shaped mine protection and many improvements. It would not hurt to establish a DZ; we already had samples. And constantly upgrade, not stand still, but ahead of the competition.
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 12: 19
    +3
    I look and I can’t take my eyes off. That is what production culture means. We have only cool Typhoon Kamazovsky assembled, but it is in development.
  3. mark1
    mark1 28 May 2013 12: 20
    0
    Interestingly, the ability to swim is preserved? In general, I like this approach, instead of trying to shove the non-pushable into the allotted volumes.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 28 May 2013 12: 47
      -6
      Yes, but the silhouette has increased, it is normal if only the Papuans drive in Africa, and not to fight!
      1. mark1
        mark1 28 May 2013 13: 11
        0
        270 mm is not critical, but the resistance to detonation at a land mine has increased.
    2. PROXOR
      PROXOR 28 May 2013 13: 33
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      Interestingly, the ability to swim is preserved? In general, I like this approach, instead of trying to shove the non-pushable into the allotted volumes.

      No swim, he will no longer. For the weight has increased.
      1. mark1
        mark1 28 May 2013 13: 42
        +2
        And how much? For besides weight, the volume also increased.
  4. ed1968
    ed1968 28 May 2013 12: 27
    0
    the eternal question why ours cannot
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 28 May 2013 12: 30
      10
      All of ours can be better! Another question is who needs this?
    2. rennim
      rennim 28 May 2013 12: 49
      +4
      They can ... and there is, and even better. Only nobody needs.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 13: 27
        +2
        Show where it was at least once, otherwise everything is only in words. the same bl .. tiger, remember what additional purchases Lynx was ah? As Iveco bought, they started to move immediately.
      2. pahom54
        pahom54 28 May 2013 13: 42
        +1
        I agree. But who for ... take dissent then?
        1. ksandr45
          ksandr45 28 May 2013 14: 02
          +1
          They are already making "Kurganets", my friend works at the plant, he says that the new BMP will be superior to the BMP-3 in everything, even in the power of the main gun it will float, though with floats. They will start shelling soon. When he didn’t say, he speaks a secret.
      3. Artmark
        Artmark 28 May 2013 14: 23
        +2
        Our infantry needs it! How it is needed! soldier
    3. AK-47
      AK-47 28 May 2013 14: 43
      +1
      Quote: ed1968
      the eternal question why ours cannot

      Because besides this BMP they do not make other military equipment, this is a pilot commercial project.
  5. fisherman
    fisherman 28 May 2013 12: 38
    +1
    Quote: mark1
    Interestingly, the ability to swim is preserved? In general, I like this approach, instead of trying to shove the non-pushable into the allotted volumes.

    such a cabinet can only sink to the bottom
  6. Manager
    Manager 28 May 2013 12: 52
    +2
    Outwardly, I do not like it, but in real conditions it was not tested, so there is nothing to say.
  7. Syrzhn
    Syrzhn 28 May 2013 12: 54
    +2
    Isn’t it easier to make a new one ?!
    1. King
      King 28 May 2013 15: 41
      0
      Not enough brains. As the founder of Toyota Motors said, "before doing your own, you need to learn to copy someone else's" while they are not very successful in copying and modernizing.
  8. Zubr
    Zubr 28 May 2013 13: 04
    +1
    And what will our experts in armored vehicles say about this?
  9. Tirpitz
    Tirpitz 28 May 2013 13: 05
    +3
    Quote: neri73-r
    Yes, but the silhouette has increased, it is normal if only the Papuans drive in Africa, and not to fight!

    What the hell? And what not to drive poopas, BMP-2,3?
  10. Vtel
    Vtel 28 May 2013 13: 14
    0
    Never mind a cruiser!
    the bottom became double (the space between the two sheets is filled with foam).

    Is it so that the legs do not freeze or what?
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 13: 29
      +2
      Rather, to reduce the speed of the fragments, well, I at least think so.
  11. Edward72
    Edward72 28 May 2013 13: 30
    0
    On without fish and cancer fish.
  12. pinecone
    pinecone 28 May 2013 14: 15
    +1
    An example of competent spending of budgetary funds by countries that were formerly part of the Warsaw Treaty organization as a single state. We took the path of modernizing Soviet-developed military equipment and were able to do without procurement of Western models.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 14: 33
      +1
      Uh, well, the Czechs buy Pandur. They collect it in their kanesha, but that does not change much.
  13. Yankuz
    Yankuz 28 May 2013 14: 29
    +1
    Cool! What can I say - well done in one word! I would not even call it modernization, here, in principle, there is nothing left of the old BMP - this is almost a new car! We also need to do - it will cost less than a new one. Moreover, the running transmission has already been tested and proved itself 100%.
  14. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 28 May 2013 14: 53
    +3
    It turns out that the designer worked more on the machine than the engineer.
    And then what kind of headlights! About such in the Caucasus they say "Khrustalny".
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 28 May 2013 15: 36
      +4
      You are right Arabs will like it. But here the headlights are a global trend
      let's say a Swedish "car"
    2. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 28 May 2013 17: 08
      +1
      This is normal world practice, and we need to take it; you didn’t hear anything about industrial design with tea?
  15. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 28 May 2013 14: 57
    +3
    "Cockpit" is also "afterburner".
    1. bask
      bask 28 May 2013 17: 15
      +1
      Quote: Milafon
      Cockpit "is also" afterburner ".

      Feel yourself, noisy. But it's nice to sit on a comfortable helm in a comfortable mine chair! And the dashboard is thought out. ((Not something sticks out)))
      Iranian version of BMP-2, armament: 2nd ZSU-23.

      1. 101
        101 28 May 2013 17: 28
        +3
        And where are the slippers? Not jumping in dirty boots, and a robe wouldn’t hurt. Well, beautifully in a word, only in a war they smear all the beauty of mud and bloodthirst in a day
        1. Radek
          Radek 28 May 2013 23: 53
          +1
          Appearances can be deceptive,
          switches in the antivandal.
          Dashboard: IP 67, operating temperature -40 ° C to +85 ° C, EMC, Vibration test etc. ...
          Otherwise you're right.
          My intention was produce nice combat vehicle.
  16. abc_alex
    abc_alex 28 May 2013 16: 07
    +1
    Or maybe before the raptures still remember for a second that we have before us an exhibition sample? :)
    By the way, I wonder, after all, how much has the mass of the car grown?
    And, of course, the BMP-2 is a good car, but remember the article about armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles and their place on the battlefield. Double bottom, add. screens - it's all great, but as here rightly noticed, great for the "war with the monkeys".
  17. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 28 May 2013 16: 17
    +2
    The body has undergone a complete alteration: the roof of the car is raised by 270 mm

    Okay, God bless him with the silhouette - the question is, how much has the mass increased after such "pumping with steroids"? What happened to the chassis, which even on the original car worked almost at the limit of possibilities? If the suspension remains unchanged, this means that the booking is not enhanced. And the armoring of the BMP-1, -2 - according to the version of our family lovers shouting "pros. Rally polymers ..." - is no good and the crew does not protect. Does this mean that the crew does not protect the armor on this pepelatse either? And then tries such a "modernization"?
    the bottom became double (the space between the two sheets is filled with foam)

    Yes, even triple ... the bottom is flat as a table. In the original, the bottom is broken through (sometimes) by conventional anti-personnel. Our "pros.ralipolymerschiki" Tiger criticized - that the STANAG 3 does not hold - they say, if it does not hold -? Well, this chaise will not meet this standard, no matter how much foam is blown into it. And if they do it so that it is consistent, then he will fall apart himself under the weight of his own weight without leaving the place. Why, you ask? But because the original does not allow to strengthen mine protection by structural methods. And increasing the thickness of the bottom is an increase in mass. And oh, what growth.
    Fuel tanks and batteries are installed in higher fenders.

    Well, this adds comfort to the landing, but nothing more. Why? But because in the fenders niches fuel and batteries are much more easily affected. By the way, in the original in the back doors - tanks, no one drove fuel in battle - there were no fools.
    The armament is represented by a TOUR-30 remote-controlled combat module, including a 30A 2A42 cannon

    Stop-stop-stop ... but where are our "pros.ralipolymers"? Who was the loudest out there indignant that 2A42 sucks and you won't get anywhere from it, and if you get there, you will break through the figs? Or is a cannon considered a ram only on Russian technology, but how do you put it on a bourgeois one - it immediately becomes good?
    The internal layout is made similar to Western combat vehicles.

    Ah, well, it's clear - here they are magic words ... "similar to Western cars."
    Here someone wrote that the life of a soldier is more precious, and rightly so. And I hope the Czechs and Slovaks will produce this mechanism for their armies - and the money for shit and combat effectiveness will not increase. Good luck to the "brothers".
  18. vomag
    vomag 28 May 2013 17: 29
    0
    even if they honestly take me doubts! about they say we need these in the troops and wherever we all were7 and what happens, hurray, give it and so on and so forth a newfangled body kit there ala nano super lotions and who tested for undermining? and there are a lot of questions about this "modernization" because the original carrier was already on the verge of possibilities for alteration during the union, and I will say that they are remaking frank old stuff not from a great mind, just to come up with something of their own is not yet able
  19. Akim
    Akim 28 May 2013 19: 23
    +1
    A sympathetic car. For a small Czech Republic or Slovakia - the very thing. Although the armament will most likely be changed to the same as on the Pandura.
  20. Akim
    Akim 29 May 2013 19: 25
    -2
    The assembly culture is still noticeable. Look at the Georgian and Slovak alterations.