Novak listed measures to overcome the fuel crisis

The Russian Cabinet of Ministers has decided to reduce the timeframe for routine maintenance at oil refineries, while temporarily postponing scheduled maintenance. A ban on diesel fuel exports has also been introduced today, following similar restrictions previously imposed on gasoline and other fuel exports. aviation kerosene.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak spoke about this at a government meeting chaired by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The official also announced the start of fuel supplies to the country from abroad.

Novak also listed other measures to overcome the fuel crisis. He said it was decided to maximize refinery utilization and immediately market the accumulated reserves.

In addition, we decided to fully utilize the potential of medium and small oil refineries.

The government is also working with Russian Railways to reduce rail tariffs. This is necessary to ensure the necessary economic conditions for imported fuel deliveries by rail.

Although the measures taken have helped stabilize the situation somewhat, it remains challenging. Novak noted:

It is clear that the current situation at gas stations is causing concern among people.

According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the main cause of the crisis was Ukrainian attacks on oil refineries. Some of them suffered serious damage, leading to a reduction in gasoline and diesel fuel production.

Comments

[Ivan№One]

There can be only one measure here. Victory.

The official also announced the start of fuel supplies to the country from abroad.

If this is still the plan, what's the next item? Please list it all.

[Anarchist]

Quote: Ivan№One

There can be only one measure here. Victory.

In my opinion, you've confused warm with soft. Victory is absolutely necessary! But without fuel, it will drag on. Therefore, urgent measures are needed to stabilize the situation.

[hrych]

Quote: Anarchist

But without fuel it will drag on.

On the contrary, it's getting closer. Sooner or later, Putin will realize that nuclear weapons are necessary, at least for energy and electronic warfare. Sooner or later, he'll realize that subversive attacks on the EU's energy sector and military are necessary. Sooner or later, he'll realize that everyone has betrayed Russia, including Xi's friend, Lu. And finally, he'll realize that Anchorage, which Putin sincerely believed in, was just another scam.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ivan№One

The official also announced the start of fuel supplies to the country from abroad.

If this is still the plan, what's the next item? Please list it all.

I can't seem to shake off the bad associations with the relatively recent historical past...
I hope the next item won't be buying wheat and corn from the US, because that will sooner or later lead to "Bush legs."

By the way.
Experts with numbers will probably tear me to pieces, but as an ordinary citizen, I still can't believe that Ukrainian drones caused enough damage to trigger a fuel collapse. They're not exactly razing our refineries to the ground! And repairing any pipeline or replacing a pump takes hours and has never led to a complete refinery shutdown.
But for some reason, on the contrary, one really believes in the “smart marketing policy” of our oil and gas industry workers.
In this regard, I think – it’s clear who’s in Kyiv, the enemy. But who are our profiteers?

[Murmur 55]

Zoldat a They wrote that the equipment at these refineries is partially, and in some cases not, imported, from countries that have imposed sanctions against us, and that it cannot be replaced because many things will have to be changed along the chain, so repairs are stalled.

[Zoldat_A]

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Quote: Murmur 55

They wrote that the equipment at these refineries is partially, and in some places not partially, imported, from countries that have imposed sanctions against us, and that it cannot be replaced because a lot of things will have to be changed along the chain, so repairs are stalled.

Perhaps... The last time I had the opportunity to work with petrochemicals and refineries specifically was 25-30 years ago – back then, the pumps were still Soviet-era. But essentially, any similar plant consists of pipes and pumps.
That's right – even changing the pump is a hassle. If the mounting location doesn't fit, that's a problem. I remember how a pump burned out in an imported modular boiler room – they ordered one from Yugoslavia, which hadn't yet been bombed, and they couldn't find a domestic equivalent.
I still think that there is much more marketing by oil companies here than there are real problems.

[Kotofeich]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Any similar plant consists of pipes and pumps.

a, between pumps and pipes

[APASUS]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Perhaps... The last time I had the opportunity to work with petrochemicals and refineries specifically was 25-30 years ago – back then, the pumps were still Soviet-era. But essentially, any similar plant consists of pipes and pumps.

There's some kind of "Flame" sensor installed, and it has Siemens software, original. And it won't work to plug in another one in its place.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: APASUS

There's some kind of "Flame" sensor installed, and it has Siemens software, original. And it won't work to plug in another one in its place.

Your truth ...
I increasingly think from my own construction and installation perspective that any such plant is just pipes and pumps. I somehow overlooked the instrumentation—it's not my specialty. But yes, indeed. Without a trivial sensor, the entire huge column could grind to a halt... And the instrumentation people at such plants are the core staff.

The only thing I don't understand is how all this hardware worked in Soviet times, and how did tractor drivers on collective farms dump diesel fuel on the ground? Is it impossible to get your hands on a Siemens these days, even if you really wanted to? Does anyone here still care about Western licensing?

[Last centurion]

This will lead not to Bush's legs, but to Lend-Lease if you dig deeper
Every hundred years it is customary to undress Russia
And turn the cities of Europe into ruins. Since the discovery of America.

[your1970]

Quote: Last centurion

This will lead not to Bush's legs, but to Lend-Lease if you dig deeper

They failed miserably with him the first time - when Stalin refused to pay. Why do they need a second one if they already carry out all their tasks with ease and nonchalance?

[the most important]

Those experts who know the numbers will probably tear me to pieces, but as an ordinary citizen, I still don’t believe that Ukrainian drones caused such extensive damage that it could provoke a fuel collapse.
On July 6th, drones struck the Omsk Oil Refinery. What's stopping the authorities from honestly stating that there were 20 (25, 45...) drones, of which 2, 10, 95... were shot down, and that the remaining ones hit the refinery and damaged equipment that will be restored in 5 (19, 20, 95...) days. In the meantime, the refinery will operate at 50 (30, 60, 99)% capacity. But nothing is being said, while everyone immediately took out their gas cans and rushed to the gas stations. And who's causing all this commotion??? It's okay to make mistakes, but it's not okay to lie – a brilliant phrase! Silence is also impossible in matters that affect the interests of millions of people.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: the most important

"It's okay to make mistakes, but it's not okay to lie"—a brilliant phrase! Silence is also not an option in matters that affect the interests of millions of people.

Everything you said is correct.
But...
Being honest means making a commitment. If they fulfill it, great, of course. But what if they don't? Who wants to make excuses? And God forbid, Moscow might ask menacingly, "You promised, why didn't you do it? Are you rocking the boat and unsettling the foundations?" It's easier to remain silent.
And further.
If we judge from the point of view of oil and gas workers.
They announced the damage, announced an estimated restoration date—and people didn't rush to the stations with cans, but calmly filled up as before. So why then raise the price to 120? There's nothing, it turns out. But then he kept quiet—demand was skyrocketing, plus he held back gasoline in storage. And now gasoline is selling like hotcakes at any price. Isn't that a joy for any oil and gas worker?

Unfortunately, everything I said above can't be fixed in our "market" environment. Under socialism, we were told that "man is for man..." But now, whoever got it first got it.

[your1970]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Everything you said is correct.
But...

Did anyone ever say anything seriously during the Soviet era? Or respond? Even in the early Soviet era—let alone the late Soviet era?
Someone chained Voroshilov up in a booth at the entrance to the Kremlin for the act of accepting the People's Commissariat of Defense from 07.05.1940Where in detail The reasons for the defeat are described 1941?
Abstract question....
Or sacred - the question in the questionnaires "Have you been to the occupied territories?" is especially relevant for those born after 1945. Someone answered for complete meaninglessness this question?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: your1970

Did anyone ever say anything seriously during the Soviet era? Or respond? Even in the early Soviet era—let alone the late Soviet era?
Someone chained Voroshilov to a booth at the entrance to the Kremlin - for the act of acceptance of the People's Commissariat of Defense from May 7, 1940, which describes in detail the reasons for the defeat in 1941?

And I agree again. They didn't say anything back then either. There was a brief period, called "glasnost," when EVERYTHING was dumped in the newspapers faster than it happened. Even then, it seemed less like an attempt to teach those in charge to be accountable for their work than like journalistic PR using breaking news. It's no wonder Argumenty i Fakty had a circulation of 20 million back then—they were champions at dumping dirty laundry.
And now time has passed, officials of the second or third “democratic” generation have understood safe sex rules rules of the game "on thin line", to seem to do something without doing anything - "just in case something happens".

That's why no one is held accountable for anything. And irresponsibility is the mother of all ruin. For example, I don't just have welders and construction inspectors marking the joints; I also have information about every project, including who did the plumbing and laid the asphalt.

[Andrey Victorovich]

Our entire government and authority rests on reports and ratings. If your reports are bad, you'll have problems. If you tell the truth about how things are going badly in your department or region (even for objective, external reasons), you'll have very big problems. So, according to the reports, everything is fine. And if everything is fine, why change anything or take any action? Taking the initiative means being held responsible and held responsible. This is how everything in our country functions, in all sectors of the "national" economy.

[Lako]

Well, yes, if Ukrainian drones destroyed a distillation column or a major fire at an oil refinery destroyed complex process equipment, replacing it would be quite expensive, especially since it was most likely imported. And quickly procuring new equipment is impossible due to sanctions. To their credit, our Western adversaries were able to pinpoint the pain points in Russian industry and the economy.

[Right hand of the eye]

Most likely, the preparations were carried out not without the involvement, calculations, and miscalculations of AI... Everything was very well calculated, in the end...

[Uran53]

Replacing a pump and pipeline is indeed quick, but column and heat exchange equipment are much more difficult. And that's precisely what they were hitting.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Uran53

Replacing a pump and pipeline is indeed quick, but column and heat exchange equipment are much more difficult. And that's precisely what they were hitting.

A column is simply a thick-walled pipe with horizontal baffles through which the product flows by gravity from top to bottom. If the column hasn't collapsed, any heel worker can weld in a patch in half a day.
With good crane access, removing an 18-ton heat exchanger takes just a couple of hours, and installing a new one takes half a day, including piping. I won't even mention the 2-3-ton ones—they were removed with two Tuapse trucks.
If crane access is poor, the heat exchanger is located somewhere on the floor and a drone simply can't reach it. We once had to drag a 15-ton unit across half a floor and had to weld a special overpass so we could lift it with a crane. But I repeat: try finding it with a drone on the floor of an open workshop...

[Uran53]

A column is a fairly complex piece of equipment, not easy to make. Neither is a teplach. Removing and installing is only half the job; it's unlikely that a refinery has spare equipment. And even in Korea or China, it takes six months or more to make new equipment.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Ivan№One

There can be only one measure here. Victory.

That's right!
But it's too general.
And now we need to force the Ukrainians and their Western masters to stop attacks on infrastructure facilities.
How? It's been said many times that, first, we need to hit critical infrastructure. For example, the Kyiv Reservoir dam. They won't stop? Then 750 kV substations.
At the same time, strike at the places where the leader and his cronies might hide.
Moreover, it's perfectly clear that the West has chosen a strategy of competing with Russia in counter-defense capabilities. They've decided to allocate $40 billion for UAVs and counter-drones...
And, using dill as a executor, it has the advantage of powerful finances and industrial capacity. For us, such competition threatens the country's existence as an industrial power.
Why, by the way, in accordance with the existing doctrine, the use of special munitions, not even in cities, but for EMP over the Bandarlog, for the destruction of railways and highways in relatively uninhabited places, will immediately bring Western drone operators to their senses.
This is, of course, the last resort, but they are going to do it themselves.

[your1970]

Quote: Alekseev

Then 750 kV substations.

Weren't you there in winter? They were broken in winter.

[Couch analyst]

The man explained it well; it's immediately obvious he's a qualified specialist. He could have also explained in just as much detail to the public who screwed up this whole thing and what responsibility they bore. After all, it's long been known that the pig-nosed buzzers reach as far as the Urals and Siberia, and their goal was to destroy our oil industry. It's also worth noting that the gasoline shortage across the entire vast country didn't arise overnight. Why are these measures only being implemented now, after Putin's kick in the pants?

[alexoff]

The Russian Cabinet of Ministers has decided to reduce the timeframe for routine repairs at oil refineries.

What's this supposed to mean? An order from the ministry that repairs after the drone strike on the oil refinery be completed in one month, not three? An order to count 92 days in a month?

[single-n]

Blew, spat, and securely fastened with tape (Madaskar 2)

[alexoff]

Two, no - three layers of blue tape!

[Last centurion]

Three layers of tape on a distillation column...

[topol717]

Quote from alexoff

What's this supposed to mean? An order from the ministry that repairs after the drone strike on the oil refinery be completed in one month, not three? An order to count 92 days in a month?

Because the reality is completely different. Drone strikes are a cover-up for the oil industry. People in Crimea, for example, should see that it's not just them who are suffering, but the entire country. There are many reasons for this situation, but drone strikes on oil refineries are far from the top one.

[isv000]

In Crimea, they will ultimately see that our management is defective, the General Staff is a swamp, with all the consequences...

[Derbenev Anton]

Khusnullin noted that Putin's expression "SNiP-kripy," which symbolizes unnecessary work stages, has become "like a catchphrase for builders, like a motto."
"They are stifling us because of all these excessive demands," the president responded.

[Ivan№One]

According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the main cause of the crisis was Ukrainian attacks on oil refineries.

Less than 2 months have passed:

[single-n]

Let's write it down like that. Kremlin ping - 2 months.

[Sergey Kirakosyan]

And Pong is 4 months.
This is how we play...

[Last centurion]

Well, yes, hands in pants and there ping-pong, giving speeches about the spirits of Anchorage

[Alf]

Quote: Single-n

Let's write it down like that. Kremlin ping - 2 months.

Apparently, the GON had only enough gasoline for two months to supply the Aurus... So the boyars hinted to the Tsar that he should travel not on the Aurus, but on a tram.

[Couch analyst]

There's another reason for the shortage (I'm not claiming it's the only one): commercialists are deliberately holding back fuel to push prices up to global levels, hoping to make extra money (we've seen this before, by the way). This situation needs to be sorted out, but for some reason, it's not being discussed anywhere. The only thing we've seen on TV is a few sparse reports of a few speculators being busted somewhere in Siberia.

[Same lech]

Novak noted:

It is clear that the current situation at gas stations is causing concern among people.

I just don’t see any concern on Novak’s part.
Until the thunder strikes, Novak will not be baptized...or, to put it another way...a drowning man's salvation is his own business.

[alexputnik17]

I don't understand... Diesel fuel. What about exports and domestic refining of oil?
How much can you feed?

[shm_kv]

All these decisions were made long ago. I don't recall the ban on diesel fuel exports, though. Oil refineries have been operating at capacity for a long time, and delaying repairs will lead to accidents even without drones.
As far as I understand, there was no talk about the most obvious way to overcome the crisis - protecting the oil refineries?

[Ivanhoe]

This is a completely different matter. Protecting the refineries requires a comprehensive solution, not empty rhetoric.

[alexoff]

As far as I understand, there was no talk about the most obvious way to overcome the crisis - protecting the oil refineries?

In such cases, Peskov refers the question to the Ministry of Defense, and no one there comments on anything.

In fact, there's a more obvious way: building more refineries. Over the past 35 years, two (two) new refineries have been built; the rest are Soviet-era. They've been updated, of course, but there aren't enough new ones.

[shm_kv]

They take years to build in peacetime, but in wartime... Besides, even if there are 10 new oil refineries, with such UAV protection they'll be destroyed in a couple of weeks (I remind you, hundreds of UAVs are already flying in every day).
If they can't protect it, then let them at least build a concrete sarcophagus over the surviving installations. And over those undergoing repairs, too. Oh, yes, in that case, something will have to be done...

[alexoff]

They can't even lift balloons with nets, despite the fact that hydrogen refineries are always overstocked. And that's not even mentioning balloons with lidars, radars, and sonars for early warning of security guards with anti-aircraft drones and shotguns. Apparently, they didn't build anything themselves—they wouldn't mind losing it, and the state won't abandon them in times of need and will provide the money.

[Right hand of the eye]

Unfortunately, seeing and understanding that our top brass will continue to the very end (until, probably, the onset of completely collapsed and catastrophic consequences) to adhere to the strategy of "fighting the consequences", the consequences of the ever-increasing aggression of the West against the Russian Federation, and not the cause, that is, the aggressors themselves - they will not take any retaliatory action against the masters and sponsors who are sending their Ukrainian stooges against us, in order to cool their militant ardor and stop the further destruction of our country, I can only give practical advice to those who are smarter and understand what we are going to, in this scenario ... - start buying now, some electric generators, etc., in general, everything that can help survive the times when gas and electricity supplies will also be limited.... Because I, unlike those who are not capable of calculating cause-and-effect relationships and drawing natural conclusions from analyzing trends and generally what is happening, understand that after the removal of our oil refineries, Sam will focus on the destruction of our hydroelectric power stations and Thermal power plants, although a nuclear power plant is even possible... And winter is just around the corner.

[Right hand of the eye]

And those with rose-colored glasses, "I'm glad to be fooled," and so on, can move on to the next thread, which talks about the near-failure of the NATO summit in Ankara, where supposedly Trump failed to win over NATO members (even though the US is its creator, main sponsor, and manager of this Russophobic machine), that he allegedly has no intention of helping Ukraine anymore (really—how much more could he possibly need? The US already gives and does everything it can for Ukraine), and so on and so forth. And just rejoice...

[Sergey3]

I wonder where people put their gasoline?! Previously, if you saw gasoline being unloaded from a tanker at a gas station, it was no more than once a week, or even a month. Now, at every nearby gas station, the tanker is just there, constantly delivering gasoline, and there's never any left.

[Zaurbek]

Decentralization of production and storage is needed

[pexotinec]

Everyone sold their stuff abroad without any control, and now they'll be buying it back for crazy money.

[Owl]

"According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the main cause of the crisis was Ukrainian attacks on oil refineries. Some of them suffered serious damage." But is it really crazy to assume that oil, gas, and chemical industry facilities would be targeted during a war? Some "wizards" invested a ton of state funds in foreign banks about a week before the Second World War, while others don't know what the enemy will do against the Russian economy. The main idea is "no one is to blame," everything "happened by accident"—impunity breeds permissiveness. If there is personal responsibility, there will be no betrayal or sabotage.

[Alf]

Quote: Eagle Owl

There will be personal responsibility - there will be no betrayal and sabotage.

[Vyacheslav Boldyrev]

Is everything going according to plan?

[nordscout]

In short, to the point, to "overcome" the fuel crisis, it is enough to "transfer" the Court, the Government, the Administration, and other Russian "boyars" to public transport, and the problem will instantly "disappear"...

[alexoff]

We could send them to live at the oil refinery and equip them with all the necessary facilities. An air defense system would immediately spring up around them!

[Peace]

Observing the current situation, one can say that it is probably necessary for a person like Lavrentiy Beria to reappear, who personally (on orders from his master) together with the NKVD (the most "terrible and brutal organization" in the history of the current Russian Federation) managed to evacuate entire factories beyond the Urals in a short period of time.
And immediately set up production there for the front.
And, apparently, the KGB and current SVS officers are unaware of the histories of their predecessors. After all, even a former KGB officer now heads the country. Although, as is well known, this man was never a true operative, but merely an administrative worker.
We need to learn from history what the real leaders of the USSR of that time achieved, and not follow the example of "Mishka the Combine Operator" or even "The Holy Drunkard."

[Alf]

Quote: Pohoda

We need to learn from history what the real leaders of the USSR of that time achieved,

[Zaurbek]

"Perhaps we should consider creating a significant network of mini-refineries now, given these conditions? We could increase supply on the domestic market," Osipov said.

Putin supported the proposal: "The wider the network, the more difficult it is to damage it."

[helilelik]

Yesterday at Rosneft, for the first time, there was no line. All the crazy people probably stocked up.

[Kerensky]

It was decided to increase the refinery's capacity as much as possible and immediately send the accumulated reserves for sale.

"And give birth to a hero, by the end of September!
- But, father, it's August. I'm afraid I won't be able to manage..." (C)

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Kerensky

"And give birth to a hero, by the end of September!
- But, father, it's August. I'm afraid I won't be able to manage..." (C)

Call the maids, at least eight of them, let them help...

[Alexander_K]

Also today a ban on the export of diesel fuel was introduced

It's been a long time coming, but it's not a given that this decision will actually be implemented. For such simple measures, which were only recently conceived, a high school education is sufficient. After this, one becomes a little afraid for those who run the country. Or rather, for the country—whether they'll be fine or not. Isn't there a single expert there who even got straight A's in school? I don't understand anything, and I can't come up with a plausible justification for many of our government's actions.

[cmax]

First we create a problem (by failing to protect the oil refinery), then we enthusiastically try to solve it by spending huge amounts of money, having received an order from the head of state.
Until the guarantor mentioned the problem, it seemed no one had noticed it.
The only order that was completed on time was raising the retirement age.

[VasyaRules]

According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the main cause of the crisis was Ukrainian attacks on oil refineries. Some of them suffered serious damage, leading to a reduction in gasoline and diesel fuel production.

Captain Obvious, really. And when they were planning the SVO, how did they even discuss fuel and logistics issues? Like, we'll just quickly destroy them and everything will be fine? That during the offensive, there were tons of videos of equipment stalling because there was no fuel, and now that they've reached the refineries. They've been hitting the refineries for a while now, so why did the fuel crisis happen now? Isn't this another conspiracy?

[Right hand of the eye]

Oil refineries have been under attack for a long time now, so why is this fuel crisis happening now? Is this another conspiracy?

Quantity turned into quality, it just... It couldn't have ended any other way. (((

[isv000]

It is clear that the current situation at gas stations is causing concern among people.

United Russia should be concerned about what it did to the state during the war. I don't know who else to vote for, but something needs to be done. Not going is not an option. Just look at the Armenian elections and how they're now treating dear Nikolai, promising him preferential treatment and opening up our market...