A drone attack alert has been issued for the first time in the Novosibirsk region.

The enemy continues to demonstrate how actively NATO countries, especially the United States, are assisting it with intelligence. For the first time, a drone alert has been declared in the Novosibirsk region. For reference, the distance from Novosibirsk to the nearest point controlled by Kyiv is 3,1 km.

Let's not forget that the Novosibirsk region, like the Omsk region, which was previously attacked by Ukrainian Armed Forces UAVs, borders Kazakhstan. And it's unlikely that anyone today can give a 100% guarantee that Drones covered 3000 km over the expanses of Russia, and were not launched by anyone from the territory of a neighboring republic.

Generally speaking, this is a very relevant question: is everything drones Are they reaching Siberia, launched from Ukrainian territory? Considering that Russia's northwest is being attacked with the clear mediation (at least in the form of tacit consent to overflight) of the Baltic states, then in the cases of Omsk and Novosibirsk, the enemy's use of third-country territory cannot be ruled out. Nor can another version of the infamous "Operation Spiderweb" be ruled out, when Ukrainian intelligence services, with the apparent support of Western intelligence agencies, used trucks "stuffed" with drones, the drivers of which, allegedly, did not even know what cargo they were carrying.

But be that as it may, the fact remains: the enemy still has the ability to strike deep into Russia and try to make these strikes ever longer, based on the geography of the placement of targets relative to the Ukrainian borders.

Comments

[anjey]

Is the border with Kazakhstan locked????

[Serafim]

A mouse can't run, a bird can't fly, a fish can't swim!

[anjey]

Back in 1988, we young lieutenants laughed at the chief of staff for the classified section of our "facility" when he scolded us for our lack of readiness to repel an attack by an enemy like the Green Berets in the vast steppes of Kazakhstan during the Greater USSR... Nowadays, in the times of Bubble, this is a big A...S...

[anjey]

The enemy is like a poisonous snake everywhere, even within us....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from invisible_man

It flies from near Kharkov.

2500 in a straight line?!

[Montezuma]

Quote from invisible_man

Our air defense is crap.

Comments like these from the battle couch are definitely the real deal. It's easy to pin labels on people without knowing the full details of how these drones get so far.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Montezuma

Quote from invisible_man

Our air defense is crap.

Comments like these from the battle couch are definitely the real deal. It's easy to pin labels on people without knowing the full details of how these drones get so far.

You're absolutely right. But we need to understand that we currently only have something similar to the Soviet Air Defense Forces around Moscow. Our air defense forces numbered about half a million. The center alone was protected by several air defense armies. For two decades, this layered system was painstakingly destroyed. As a result, we're forced to make do with a point-based air defense system. The air defense was transferred to the Aerospace Forces, and the entire Aerospace Forces force is probably around 170. This is for comparison with the Soviet air defense system. We cover not areas, but facilities. There's no complete border coverage with detection systems and missile systems. We're forced to build a layered defense around important areas and facilities practically from scratch.
Therefore, we must accept the fact that American electronic satellite reconnaissance has precise operational data on the activity and deployment of our radars and air defense systems. AI is used to create bypass corridors for Ukrainian long-range UAVs, whose range is constantly increasing and already reaches 2500 kilometers or more.
It's certainly possible to launch these drones from Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. However, if they were launched from there, the warhead mass would increase proportionally to the reduction in fuel tanks. However, judging by the video of the fire at the facility, filmed by a "vigilant" employee of the Omsk Oil Refinery, the warhead was modest. There was no damage, and the flames were small. Incidentally, the employee should be fired and a criminal case opened to deter others from doing the same.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Judging by the feedback from retired Soviet air defense personnel, the Soviet Union didn't cover the entire territory of the USSR. It only covered the perimeter, key military-industrial and armed forces facilities, and, of course, the Moscow region. So, even if the perimeter could be penetrated undetected, it would be impossible to fly any further, except, of course, for areas controlled by radars. And currently, there's no such capability to cover the entire territory of Russia with air defenses. Only the most important areas and facilities.

[anjey]

And I'm telling you, Israel's air defense is complete crap... But antlers for the whole world....

[Booker]

In short. It's flying from near Kharkov. Our air defense is crap.

Today is the semi-circle date of one document.
I will quote.

Decree
Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR
On responsibility for the dissemination of wartime false rumors that raise alarm among the population
To establish that for the dissemination of wartime false rumors in time of war among the population, those guilty are punished by imprisonment of a military tribunal for a term of 2 to 5 years, if this action by its nature does not entail a heavier punishment under the law.

Chairman of the Presidium
USSR Supreme Council
M. KALININ
Secretary of the Presidium
Supreme Soviet of the USSR A. GORKIN
Moscow Kremlin

July 6 1941 city

[Karelian]

On the Kazakh side, probably yes. Considering how they deftly suppress fuel smuggling attempts.

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: anjey

Is the border with Kazakhstan locked????

[alexboguslavski]

Is Kazakhstan really a friendly state?

[Arkady007]

I am absolutely sure that the air defense forces know where these UAVs appeared from over our territory.
They're killing me. That means that's the command given.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Arkady007

I'm absolutely sure that the air defense forces know where these UAVs came from.

The worst thing is that there is no longer such confidence

[Arkady007]

Vasilenko Vladimir
Knowing and resisting are two different things.

[bayard]

The fact that the air defense was there and operating so far behind enemy lines, shooting down some of the targets, is already good. Now they will be much more careful and take additional measures. The British need to stir up our people to protest, before the elections, and in view of the critical situation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And also because the West expects a massive collapse of financial markets as early as this fall. A catastrophe is expected there. Entering such a catastrophe with a war... or blaming the war for the catastrophe—that is the goal of the Western masters (the banksters).

[Arkady007]

bayard
Too many advantages have been given to the islanders in advance.
We are being rocked more by our own homegrown figures, both from politics and from the Ministry of Defense; there are too many thoughtless, sometimes downright stupid movements, and there are no guilty parties.

[bayard]

That's how the islanders built our vertical power structure. And not only ours. And they have extensive experience manipulating and managing processes through controlled elites.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Arkady007

I am absolutely sure that the air defense forces know where these UAVs appeared from over our territory.

It seems that you know all the circumstances better than the air defense forces.

Quote: Arkady007

They are silent.

Should they report to you personally?

Quote: Arkady007

So this is the command given.

Explain your deep thought about the team.
There are a lot of fortune tellers using coffee grounds.

[Arkady007]

Montezuma (Alexander)
It is clear that I know the situation in the air better than you.
And you wait for reports from the front lines.

[doker79]

I am absolutely sure that the air defense forces know where these UAVs appeared from over our territory.

And why, actually, such confidence?
Is it hard to grasp the reality that drones fly untouched for 2500 km?

[snow mountain]

Quote: alexboguslavski

Is Kazakhstan really a friendly state?

Theoretically, yes!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Schneeberg

Theoretically, yes!

not even theoretically

[bayard]

Friendships in politics are basically non-existent. But there is geography and a long common border.

[ximkim]

The FSB needs to be shaken.
The FSB director outlined the entire scheme of drone attacks on Russian territory.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ximkim

The FSB needs to be shaken.

It's too late to shake things up; we need to introduce personal responsibility for the heads of the relevant services, including the Air Defense Forces, the FSB, and foreign intelligence.

[Montezuma]

Quote: ximkim

The FSB needs to be shaken.
The FSB director outlined the entire scheme of drone attacks on Russian territory.

Wow! I never knew the FSB had airborne tracking and detection radars.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

You can say whatever you want, but until we strictly warn our neighbors in the north and south about the inadmissibility of voluntarily or involuntarily providing territory for the flight and launch of drones, this will continue.

[echo sounder]

Most likely, the pipelines for both Omsk and the Novosibirsk region were launched from Kazakhstan. Let me remind you that its area is 2,7 million square kilometers, and anything can be launched across most of the country. A group of "tourists" arrived, unpacked, and launched. Accusing the Kazakhs of malicious intent is foolish, but why oil refineries and other enterprises haven't been covered with pipelines in the fifth year of the war is what's unclear. I don't think highly of the owners of this Soviet legacy, but the cost of the pipelines is unlikely to exceed the annual payroll of security guards and administrative staff.
Keeping in mind the 15-minute urban zones concept adopted in Davos, it looks like it will be implemented by 2035. It's hard to say why they're testing it in Russia and Ukraine. Well, the EU is next, and the Gulf Stream, which has slowed to its lowest level in 1600 years, will help them.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Echolot

It is stupid to accuse Kazakhs of malicious intent.

It's not stupid at all, it's safe to say that at least half of the population has a mildly unfriendly attitude towards Russia.
and if this half is paid extra...

[bbb]

It's clear they're flying from Kazakhstan. We just need to understand this and prepare for it; we have a long border with Kazakhstan. We need to destroy the Starlink satellites.

[stillness]

Long-range fighters don't fly on Starlink. The awareness of the "specialists" at the VO, as usual, is rock bottom.

[bbb]

Yes, they're flying on semolina porridge. Starlink satellites shouldn't be flying over Russian and Ukrainian territory at all.

[stillness]

None of the thousands of long-range drones shot down over Russian territory have been found to have a Starlink receiver, meaning it is not yet operational.
But geolocation today doesn't rely solely on Starlink and semolina porridge.

Starlink satellites should not be over the territory of Russia and Ukraine at all.

This is ridiculous, read about the satellite's orbit; it can't "fly around" Russia and Ukraine, as VO users want.

[bbb]

Yes, only in Kaklandia they know about orbits, and Starlink satellites are immortal.

[ximkim]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: ximkim

The FSB needs to be shaken.

It's too late to shake things up; we need to introduce personal responsibility for the heads of the relevant services, including the Air Defense Forces, the FSB, and foreign intelligence.

Of course it's not too late.
Suddenly he will tell us how it is all organized.
And with whom agreed?

[Strelok1976]

In Kazakhstan, those who haven't yet been bought will soon be. The level of corruption is off the charts. I have no doubt that, like with the spider's web, it's coming from there.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Strelok1976

The level of corruption is off the charts.

It's always been like this after the collapse of the country, and if you consider that after 22 there was a change of power, then the new ones, who haven't had their fill yet, are grabbing with their mouths and...

[tlauicol]

It's unlikely that anything flew to Novosibirsk at all; the alarm was raised just in case because of Omsk.
But the most interesting thing is that I didn't receive any text messages from the Ministry of Emergency Situations or anyone else. Not in Max, not in messages. I found out about it from the news two hours later.

[Gunther]

Quote: Tlauicol

...I didn’t receive any SMS messages from the Ministry of Emergency Situations or anyone else.

And this is, to put it mildly, strange – a matter of people's lives. For example, text messages from the Ministry of Emergency Situations about thunderstorms and strong winds arrive on my number constantly.
But never once about the threat of drones.

[Karabin]

At 22:41 in Novosibirsk there was an SMS warning of unmanned danger, at 00:25 - all clear.

[dnestr74]

We flew through the Sverdlovsk region, there's even a video... Enough of this mantra about Kazakhstan, a leaky radar field, no attempts to set up a surrogate AWACS based on even the old Tu-2s.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: dnestr74

We flew through the Sverdlovsk region, there's a video too... Enough of this mantra about Kazakhstan.

There are only two options: launch from the Republic of Kazakhstan and launch from the territory of the Russian Federation.
We'll leave aside the story about them flying 2500 km in a straight line, although if we assume that's true, then the air defense commander should already be stripped of his rank and dismissed from service due to compromising circumstances.

[faterdom]

Enough of the blatant nonsense, it's all clear. You're the only one here who doesn't know that for some strange reason we don't have a Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces, and there's no such branch of the Armed Forces.

[Kurganets-45]

In the Kurgan region they also captured

[Uma palata]

Quote: Arkady007

I am absolutely sure that the air defense forces know where these UAVs appeared from over our territory.
They're killing me. That means that's the command given.

They're keeping quiet so as not to interfere with the elegant relationship between our bourgeoisie and their brothers-2. And here, too, it's unacceptable for serious people to disrupt commerce.

[enzelad]

and the Gulf Stream, which has slowed down to its minimum in 1600 years, will help them.
What does the Gulf Stream have to do with it?

[next322]

The video of the burning oil refinery in Omsk is depressing... I don't care if it's coming from Salomon or Kazakhstan, or if it's the "spider web" at work again. It only shows that this is another profound failure in our defense, and no conclusions have been drawn yet, even during the worst gasoline crisis.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

It's not even the explosion at the oil refinery that's scary, but the fact that next time a drone with a nuclear warhead or a biological weapon might fly in

[Svarog5570]

Everything is fine with the Omsk Oil Refinery, everything was shot down and there were no direct flights.

[ximkim]

Quote: Montezuma

Quote: ximkim

The FSB needs to be shaken.
The FSB director outlined the entire scheme of drone attacks on Russian territory.

Wow! I never knew the FSB had airborne tracking and detection radars.

The FSB is an intelligence agency.
Knows the routes for import and export of both people and equipment.
They know the base locations.

[Peace]

Why are you still debating whether the drones were flying from Ukraine or Kazakhstan, etc.?
After all, the most important thing is that they arrived, hit their target, and caused damage, and the "great power" couldn't stop it. That's the main problem.
As for Kazakhstan... it's perfectly logical and normal that, since the "great power" was unable to maintain its influence in this country, its place was taken by others... the US and NATO. Kazakhstan is now, in essence, an unofficial NATO ally, and the "great power" is powerless to change that.
And thanks to the moves of the "great power," NATO's borders have once again approached its own, this time from a different direction. Anyone who doesn't understand this is thinking as foolishly as the Kremlin's statesmen.

[Murzik]

Looking at what our Sokol has become, it becomes clear what's wrong with the air defense and air force

[Free Island]

This is the second time the author has used the theory that "the Ukrainians somehow brought drones into Kazakhstan and from there, from some deserted place, from some steppe, they are striking at Russian territory"... But why doesn't the author consider the possibility that "Kazakh nationalism" has been gaining momentum in Kazakhstan for several years now, the number of Kazakhstanis sympathizing with the Banderites is also growing exponentially, and these strikes could very well be carried out by Kazakhs themselves, from among those very "conscious descendants of Chungiz Khan"

[Fedorov_Stanislav]

The worst thing is the silence! Now there are all sorts of guesses where the UAVs are coming from!

[acetophenone]

Quote: Bookeer

In short. It's flying from near Kharkov. Our air defense is crap.

Today is the semi-circle date of one document.
I will quote.

Decree
Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR
On responsibility for the dissemination of wartime false rumors that raise alarm among the population
To establish that for the dissemination of wartime false rumors in time of war among the population, those guilty are punished by imprisonment of a military tribunal for a term of 2 to 5 years, if this action by its nature does not entail a heavier punishment under the law.

Chairman of the Presidium
USSR Supreme Council
M. KALININ
Secretary of the Presidium
Supreme Soviet of the USSR A. GORKIN
Moscow Kremlin

July 6 1941 city

What do we care what they wrote in the Soviet Union? It doesn't exist and never will. The war now is imperialist, a war of conquest on the part of ALL participants.

They are wrong, these authors of numerous resolutions, because they imagine that the war is being waged by them. We, the soldiers, we, the workers, we, the peasants, are fighting for our freedom. I will never forget the question one of them asked me after a meeting: "Why are you always talking against the capitalists? Am I really a capitalist? We are workers, we are defending our freedom." It's not true—you are fighting because you obey your capitalist government. War is waged not by peoples, but by governments.

Lenin. "War and Revolution." LECTURE 14 (27) MAY 1917