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Sergey Mikheev: "We must not be allowed to beat us in the Caspian Sea"

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Sergey Mikheev: "We must not be allowed to beat us in the Caspian Sea"Director of the Caspian Cooperation Institute reflects on threats to regional security


- Sergey Aleksandrovich, the overwhelming majority of fellow citizens, I think, are not very familiar with what can be called "Caspian political and economic problems." At best, they know that once from this region black caviar, which no longer exists, came into free sale. But now it is easy to buy a Caspian roach called “roach”. It is in the West that military and politicians often argue about the significance of the Caspian. And we?

- Speaking about our foreign policy priorities, we have not forgotten about this region. But, really, the Caspian’s media and its problems are practically not interested, as they say now, it “is not at the epicenter of the media space”. Accordingly, we are not News or comments are not received. The media are “imprisoned” on completely different topics; the Caspian begins to worry journalists only when something happens in the region or can happen. This is the specificity of the information space: they propose that we consider far from always important topics.

At the same time, it is necessary to recognize: we have two main directions of foreign policy, western and eastern, specifically in recent years, this is China, to which we pay special attention. Now the Middle East has been added to them. So, the Caspian is perceived as a periphery of foreign policy interests. However, the expert community is well aware that this region is becoming a strategically important crossroads of interests of the main global players. Here - and the place of oil and gas deposits, and the point of potential conflicts - with their possible flow in the military phase. There is little talk of the Caspian in public, but Russia has not forgotten it.

- You are the director of the institute, which deals with the problems of this region. Do we have specialists who constantly keep it in sight?

- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has a department that deals with this topic, there is also an ambassador at large, responsible for the Caspian region, the sectors in the “relevant” departments work. So there are many experts, another thing: in relation to the Caspian, we see the same problems as in our policy as a whole. In the nineties, we did not have a sane strategy applied to this region - however, it was also absent in relation to many states of the post-Soviet space. In those years, Russian-Belarusian cooperation should be considered the most effective, it was then that the Union State was created and the foundation laid for the current integration of the two countries. Everything else looked either extremely mediocre, or frankly bad. So the "lost Caspian" in this case is not an exception.

Although, on the other hand, Moscow settled all its territorial issues with Kazakhstan and several other countries. But in the south of the Caspian Sea between Iran, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan, there is still a tense struggle to determine their own national zones. And there is no end to this rivalry, the legal status of the sea is not defined even today, there is no clear distinction between the water area and the bottom. There are only some de facto arrangements.

- The Caspian is directly - or should be - in the sphere of interests of Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Russia. The sea is all the same, interests are different. Are they very different? And do not external players stand, for example, for Baku or Astana?

- The question is how to formulate these interests. If you don’t see beyond your own nose and limit yourself only to the nearest perspective, then yes, there is a conflict of interests. It concerns, first of all, the oil and gas sector. Because Baku views the Caspian Sea as a kind of minerals pantry, which should provide the country with a bright future. Azerbaijan is focused on Western projects for the delivery of oil and gas, bypassing Russian pipelines. Naturally, this desire is contrary to the interests of Moscow. For the sake of justice, I must say: there would be no such situation if the Chechen war didn’t happen at that time, because Baku used to pump its oil through pipes laid across the territory of Dagestan and Chechnya. Then the route became very dangerous, the Azerbaijanis used this excuse to justify their bank towards the West. While complaining that, besides oil and gas, they have nothing to sell abroad, respectively, the construction of the “western pipe” is, above all, an economic necessity. What they did with the help of Turkey, laying the pipeline Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan. However, an additional factor complicating bilateral relations was, of course, the Karabakh conflict. From the very beginning, the point of view that Russia in this conflict behaved biased and acted on the side of Armenia prevailed in Azerbaijan. Against this background, Turkey’s influence on Azerbaijani foreign policy sharply increased.

We also have problems with Astana and Ashgabat. While their oil and gas is being pumped through the old, once allied pipelines, but there is a desire to bypass Moscow to reach Western buyers, so that a conflict of interest can be said in this case too.

But, on the other hand, everything that has been said is a kind of primitive perception of the situation today, like “grab now, as much as possible, tomorrow it will be too late”. From a strategic perspective, you need to understand: The Caspian Sea is an inland water body of five countries. And it is not in the interests of the "five" to turn it into a dustbin, which it can become as a result of oil production, the reserves of which are not infinite. To this we must add that if the revenues from the extraction of raw materials will not be invested in infrastructure, then coastal regions will also become garbage dumps. And, what is the most dangerous, mired in these conflicts, we are able to quarrel once and for all. To attract certain third forces to the region and even become victims of military confrontation, which is in the hands of many Western players, but it is not at all beneficial for us.

Both Americans and Europeans, knowing full well the significance of the region, are actively trying to penetrate into it and influence the local elites. So far, they have the best "cooperation" with Baku. Of course, Azerbaijan is trying to balance, but in general, Washington pushes and buys our neighbors in the Caspian. In addition, there is an "explanatory" work with the population. Actually, the methods of their actions do not differ from those that Americans use everywhere they want to gain a foothold. The offensive goal is simple: to radically weaken the influence in the Caspian region of Russia and Iran. After that, make the former Soviet republics of the South Caucasus and Central Asia loyal partners. Then use them in the fight against Moscow, Tehran and, possibly, Beijing. It is clear that one more task is to get the oil and gas resources in hand.

The results of such "experiments" can be extremely pitiable. Everywhere, where NATO pursues a similar policy, either war begins, or the internal political situation aggravates. The general strategic interest of the “five” is to prevent us from being beaten. Perhaps, for the sake of this, tactical interests should sometimes be compromised in order not to become a battlefield in foreign projects.

- The Institute of Caspian Cooperation literally recently held an international conference. Topics were clearly marked, it was about security threats and stabilization factors. Do we think that we are threatened, or are external threats being spoken about today in other Caspian states?

- The meeting was attended by representatives of all the Caspian littoral states, there were many discussions - as well as opinions. But what is interesting is that in assessing the threats to the security of the region, everyone was practically united. The first is the possible unleashing of a military conflict "around" Iran. You can not even talk about anxiety about the fate of this state, but when it boils, the former Soviet republics will suffer. First of all, the West - or the one who will strike - will try to involve neighboring countries, force, say, Azerbaijan or Turkmenistan to participate by giving their territory for the purposes of the operation. And this means that Tehran may well strike back precisely on them, the Iranian missiles will not reach the United States.

In addition, for the sea it will be an environmental disaster. Millions of refugees will rush from Iran to neighboring countries. And the United States will receive an excellent opportunity to permanently consolidate the post-Soviet countries in the sphere of its foreign and military policy. Accordingly, the position of the "five", expressed at the conference, was united: no one needs a war against Iran. At the same time, this opinion does not mean at all that everyone loves Tehran, Baku, for example, has rather tense relations with it. Everyone is quite wary of the Iranian nuclear program, but the littoral conflict in the region is absolutely not needed by the Caspian countries.

The political shifts caused by the attack on Iran in the Caspian states can be so strong that I do not rule out a possible change of power. Suppose the war has begun. 20 of millions of ethnic Azerbaijanis reside in Iran, they will flee to Azerbaijan, whose population is only 5 millions. Even if as many of them rush in the direction of Baku, imagine the consequences - they are unpredictable. The same problem may arise in Turkmenistan, except on a smaller scale.

Predicting the development of events is difficult, look at Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. Today, Iraq is actually a dismembered country. Its actual disintegration has caused political metastases in neighboring countries. In Syria, there is a war, unrest in Turkey, the Americans are drawing it into an escalation of tension. So it will not be enough for anyone.

Another thing is that in the near future, Iran will not be attacked. For one pragmatic reason: the West is not ready for an attack, and now the bombardment with subsequent ground-based actions will not be decided. But even the fact that talks about the war against Iran are being intensively conducted already raises the degree of tension in the region.

Another serious potential threat is the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan. The exit route is through the Caspian states, it is known that the territories of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will be used for this, it is likely that Azerbaijan will be involved.

But we know how, under various pretexts — including very plausible — NATO members in general and the Americans first of all consolidate their military-political presence in other states. For example, the same base “Manas” in Kyrgyzstan: you can call it “the center of transit traffic”, called “a point of humanitarian aid to the people of the country”. But this is a permanent US air force base. There is a center of electronic intelligence, which “probes” the neighboring countries, first of all - the territory of China. Although it is called everything in the most innocent way, the base is called the “jump airfield”.

Here they are, the risks. If the Americans use transit to consolidate their presence in the Caspian littoral states, then this will give them the opportunity to influence their policies, and may become a factor of instability, as the events in Uzbekistan have shown. There was a NATO base in Khanabad, and it was closed when it became clear: the Americans were involved in organizing the Andijan events, when an insurgency was actually raised in the south of the country, during which hundreds of people died. There are very good reasons to believe that Western intelligence agencies were related to its support. The main instigators can not be called, but they "warmed" excitement. Then the base from the country and asked. Now the relations between Washington and Tashkent are warming up - maybe the Americans will want to make a second attempt and come back.

The solution is simple. The most important issues in the Caspian - political, military and economic - must be solved in a five-sided format. And this is the only way that extra-regional forces should not have a serious influence on the events taking place in the region. It is clear that there work - including, and with our submission - American, British and other companies. This is a given; it is unlikely that they will be removed from there, but questions of political and military influence are too important to involve some third forces in their solution.

Ideally — and Russia initiated this initiative at one time — it would be advisable to create a regional organization for economic cooperation and development. But it would be nice to conclude a full-scale agreement on military-political issues, where there is no need to firmly state that there should not be a military presence in the Caspian Sea of ​​third countries. Such documents were previously accepted, it is a pity that they were only declarations of intent, but not treaties. At the same time, the provisions on military activity of the five Caspian littoral states could be fixed there so that there would be no feeling that one of them threatens a neighbor.

- Are there any other factors that, like an attack on Iran, can destabilize the situation in the region?

- I do not exclude a quiet and calm attempt by Americans to penetrate there under the slogan of protecting pipelines. As far as I understand, it is precisely to this that Washington inclines Baku. Another five or seven years ago, the United States took the initiative to create a military grouping in the Caspian to ensure the smooth flow of raw materials to the West - Casfor. Although the oil and gas pipelines themselves have not yet been built, the Americans came forward with the idea of ​​their military defense. There are rumors of military cooperation between Baku and Washington, many of them are simply speculations, but there are some reasons for concern. I think Baku will have enough political wisdom to maintain a balance.

- Does Moscow act as an equal partner in this relationship, or is it viewed as a “former senior comrade”?

- Russia is a leader in terms of its scale and in historical degree of influence, nobody can take this away from us. So, of course, one can lament over the miscalculations of our foreign policy. Only in this case it is necessary to understand: our resources and our historical project so far, albeit by inertia, provide us with priority influence in most of the adjacent regions. But in terms of information and economic activity, in the field of various initiatives and projects, Moscow lags behind almost all the former Soviet republics. Because the Caspian region continues to be our periphery. It does not represent for us such an important development factor as it is for other members of the Five.

- We started and let's finish the fish: Iran, if I am not mistaken, is the only Caspian state that seriously and systematically feeds on sturgeon, getting good money.

- The former Soviet republics, alas, almost destroyed this type of fish. Iran tightly controls this area, now it is the main legal supplier of black caviar to Western markets. What used to be considered a Volga delicacy and a Russian commodity, today exports Tehran. We let go of the situation, sturgeon was beaten with poaching methods, their population is almost ruined. That's when we are shown on our TV screens sturgeon fry that have grown here, which grow very slowly, then we remember the Caspian Sea ...

Interview conducted by Viktor Gribachev
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 06: 33 New
    +9
    Yes minus the article. If the media have forgotten, this does not mean they forgot in the Kremlin. Putin is not a sucker, as Amers did, he will do so, but even more so in the Caspian Sea. For every American trick we will have unpredictable stupidity that will perplex the entire Pentagon.
    1. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 28 May 2013 06: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes minus the article. If the media have forgotten, this does not mean they forgot in the Kremlin. Putin is not a sucker, as Amers did, he will do so, but even more so in the Caspian Sea. For every American trick we will have unpredictable stupidity that will perplex the entire Pentagon.


      For every American and not only trick, we have a "Gepard class frigate" with a displacement of 2000 tons and missile weapons!
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 29 May 2013 07: 12 New
      +1
      And why did it appear on the site. Why do we explain the explainable ?.
  2. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 28 May 2013 06: 35 New
    +6
    Until Iran is leaked, we have no particular problems. And those that are solved are, but between those countries that are in this region.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 06: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Ruslan67
      And those that are solvable

      Well, yes, the south has already been rearmament, so it’s more than solvable.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 28 May 2013 06: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        more than solvable.

        There are no unsolvable problems - there are people who do not know how to solve them request
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 06: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: Ruslan67
          -There are people who do not know how to solve them

          In the West, 99.9% of such percent
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 28 May 2013 06: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In the West, 99.9% of such percent

            Or solve them in the style of -On the back with a shovel ON !!! wassat
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 07: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: Ruslan67
              -On the back with a shovel ON !!!

              He flew away, but promised to return. crying
              I'm not talking about Carlson, but about our Sparrow winked
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 28 May 2013 07: 32 New
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                He flew away, but promised to return.

                Seven feet under the wing fellow The main thing is that the shovel in the way would not poher laughing
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 07: 57 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  The main thing is that the shovel in the way would not poher

                  She is of gold, award and all that. She will watch and watch for her. wink
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 03 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    .Will vigil for her and vigil.

                    If only it would not hinder free soaring laughing
  3. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 28 May 2013 06: 44 New
    +1
    20 million ethnic Azerbaijanis live in Iran, they will flee to Azerbaijan, whose population is only 5 million.

    According to Wikipedia, 9 590 15 people live in Azerbaijan (2013 assessment)
    Where is the author of 5 and a half million cases?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 06: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: Milafon

      According to Wikipedia, 9 590 15 people live in Azerbaijan (2013 assessment)

      You read less Wikipedia, there is a solid mess !!!
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 28 May 2013 06: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You read less on Wikipedia,

        Tell me more at night wassat And then the woman will dream crying
        1. MilaPhone
          MilaPhone 28 May 2013 07: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Say it for the night, otherwise the woman will dream

          Babayka would dream if these 5 and a half million are in Russia.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 28 May 2013 07: 15 New
            +5
            Quote: Milafon
            if these 5 and a half million are in Russia.

            So here they are
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 28 May 2013 11: 56 New
              +6
              yeah ..)))))))) it’s all 9,5 million, including myself on the street Baltschug))))))
          2. Bykov.
            Bykov. 28 May 2013 08: 17 New
            0
            Quote: Milafon
            ... Babayka would dream if these 5 and a half million are in Russia ...

            Previously, all Azerbaijanis were in Russia, together with their Azerbaijan, and there weren’t any women at that.
          3. Yeraz
            Yeraz 28 May 2013 10: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: Milafon
            Babayka would dream if these 5 and a half million are in Russia.

            no, in Russia there is a maximum of 2.5 million. Plus there is such a thing that without renouncing Azerbaijani citizenship you can get Russian. Just both countries recognize their passport. In reality, the republic constantly has 6.5-7 million in the summer all 9)) Population growth 100 thousand a year, but born in Russia they are only citizens of the Russian Federation and, unlike their parents, they do not have a second passport, so the birth rate is higher.
          4. smersh70
            smersh70 28 May 2013 11: 55 New
            +6
            having been in Germany and in Europe, it has been umptied that half of Russia's population is there ........... winked wink
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 28 May 2013 07: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You read less Wikipedia, there is a solid mess !!!


        good morning Alexander hi As for Wikipedia, yes I agree, but Milafon is right about the population.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 May 2013 07: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Apollon
          but Milafon is right about the population.

          5 of millions of Azerbaijanis in Russia is Russia's strategic reserve wassat
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            5 of millions of Azerbaijanis in Russia is Russia's strategic reserve


            as for the number of Azerbaijanis living in Russia, I don’t know for sure, but the fact that the impressive part is yes. I had in mind the population of Azerbaijan, about 10 million. As for Iran.

            quote-20 of millions of ethnic Azerbaijanis live in Iran ..........

            then lives there, much more than 20 million
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 05 New
              +4
              Quote: Apollon
              As for the number of Azerbaijanis living in Russia, I don’t know for sure

              A lot of apollo request A lot and the funny thing is getting along with the Armenians in one row in all markets
              1. Apollo
                Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 07 New
                +5
                Quote: Ruslan67
                A lot and the funny thing is getting along with the Armenians in one row in all markets


                it’s precisely and not only in Iran but also in Russia that they conduct joint business. This is not a secret for me.
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 12 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Apollon
                  This is not a secret for me.

                  And this is not a secret but a statement of fact - nothing personal is just business request I'll tell you more as a friend and brother at fellow in the early 90s we didn’t have a break from your compatriots: the Azerbaijanian was a curse Now the Armenians are trying to take by the throat fool Bad end
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 28 May 2013 10: 06 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And this is not a secret but a statement of fact - nothing personal is just business

                    so the trick is that fraternity is included with one’s own and this is not always good, therefore the Armenian is trying with the Azerbaijanian and vice versa, as if both were on the alert and everything was calm, but the fellow countryman didn’t get the line like that, he’s countryman. It’s everywhere like that.
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 00 New
                +1
                we have 30000 Armenians living in Azerbaijan ... and take off calmly and get along here ... the dybog peace will come ... and he will live together in the future. despite the fact that the best cry in 41 was a call one poet, writer, kill a German !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 28 May 2013 12: 24 New
                  0
                  Quote: smersh70
                  dybog peace comes

                  God forbid.
                  Quote: smersh70
                  .and will continue to live together.

                  if in the number of 30000 yes, but in no other way. Betrayals should have already opened their eyes, do not forget who opened the door of Antioch to the crusaders and what then the crusaders themselves did to him.
                  1. smersh70
                    smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 55 New
                    0
                    nowhere do we go from them))))))))))) so God arranged for him to live next to Armenia all his life)) ... the Russians tried on with the Germans, the backpackers with the Germans and the British .... really the neighbor should always respect the neighbor, unfortunately you can’t say this ... about our western neighbor)) everyone whistled-territory, music, dolma, food, rituals, Vasily, laughing
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz 28 May 2013 13: 27 New
                      +1
                      Quote: smersh70
                      nowhere do we go from them)))))))))))

                      how to leave the frontline zone and the ban on the arrival of Armenians now, that’s all. We will live nearby only on opposite sides of the CLOSED border.
                  2. Stoic
                    Stoic 28 May 2013 13: 21 New
                    +1
                    30000 lives in Azerbaijan? )))))
                    This fairy tale in his speech was launched by Heydar Aliyev in 1995.
                    Something has since been unchanged 30000
                    Do not born, do not die))))
                    1. smersh70
                      smersh70 28 May 2013 13: 40 New
                      0
                      if you taught sociology at the university, then you will probably know that the population is considered to be from the census conducted by the state .... and this is census data, but given the fact that mostly citizens who were over 30 years old remained, then the increase no, but there is a natural decline ..... by the way, 2 Armenians live on our street in Ganja in the neighborhood, and they even have seven grandchildren, but our children are considered on the paternal side, unlike Armenia laughing you probably still have matriarchy laughing
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 29 May 2013 08: 03 New
                      0
                      Quote: Stoic
                      30000 lives in Azerbaijan? )))))

                      Today at the Court on Grave Crimes of Azerbaijan, the trial on a resident of Baku has been completed, Armenian by nationality Edgar Sargsyanaccused of raping his underage half-sisters and brother.

                      According to Day.Az, the trial was chaired by Judge Alisultan Osmanov.

                      According to the court verdict, E. Sargsyan was found guilty under articles 150.3.3 and 132 of the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan and sentenced to 14 years in prison with a sentence in a maximum security penal colony.

                      According to the materials of the criminal case, E. Sargsyan, born in 1985, was born in Sumqayit, lives in Baku, in Icheri Sheher, on Gasr St., house number 14. In 2001, he was arrested for theft under Article 177.
                      In October, November, December 2007 and February 2008, the previously convicted 23-year-old E. Sargsyan committed sexual acts against his younger 7-year-old sister and 10-year-old mother’s brother, with whom he lived together.
                      http://news.day.az/criminal/124366.html

                      The prosecutor's office of the Binagadi district of Baku completed the investigation in the criminal case of an Armenian by nationality, Sargsyan Edgar Eduardovich (born in 1985), who was trying to escape from prison.

                      According to Day.Az, this was reported in the prosecutor's office of the Binagadi region of Baku.

                      The prosecutor’s office noted that the criminal case of E. Sargsyan was sent to the Binagadi District Court.

                      The Binagadi District Court reported that the case was taken into the proceedings of Judge Natik Abbasov. A preparatory meeting in this case is scheduled for January 14, 2009.

                      Note that on November 8, 2008 Sargsyan Edgar Eduardovich tried to escape. He attempted to climb over gates intended for freight transport.

                      Due to the fact that the fugitive did not respond to security warnings, fire was opened on him. A prisoner who was injured in the leg was placed in a medical institution of the Prison Service. He was charged under article 304.1 (escape from prison, from arrest or from custody) of the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan.
                      http://news.day.az/criminal/143086.html
                      1. Stoic
                        Stoic 29 May 2013 10: 23 New
                        +1
                        It remains to find the remaining 29))))
                      2. smersh70
                        smersh70 29 May 2013 13: 39 New
                        +3
                        watch the media .... and the criminal chronicle ......... laughing
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 29 May 2013 18: 13 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Stoic
                        It remains to find the remaining 29))))

                        Well, I give information about the most famous Armenians !!)))
                        So to speak, about the stars)))
                        The rest are not primitive))))
                      4. Stoic
                        Stoic 30 May 2013 20: 28 New
                        0
                        As the Russian proverb says about you, Alibek
                        "The pig will find dirt everywhere"
                      5. smersh70
                        smersh70 1 June 2013 19: 02 New
                        +1
                        and we say, the dog barks, the caravan goes .... laughing
                      6. Stoic
                        Stoic 3 June 2013 11: 25 New
                        0
                        The freak on your avatar is no longer barking or walking ...
  4. smersh70
    smersh70 28 May 2013 11: 58 New
    +4
    when the fathers of these 5 million ... sewed up Russia .... at 41 ... and shed blood there .... and thanks to them, you calmly write in front of the computer .............. - Never forget about it ........
    .
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 28 May 2013 13: 21 New
      +1
      They defended not only RUSSIA but also Azerbaijan and Armenia and Georgia .. They defended us, their people !!! We are in RUSSIA. We have never forgotten and do not forget, that's why you live with us so graciously!
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 28 May 2013 13: 43 New
        +4
        yes, it’s free))) under the constant supervision of the local police and the ROVD laughing
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 28 May 2013 08: 22 New
    +3
    The author has reduced not only us, but also southern Azerbaijanis by 10 million!
    1. Stoic
      Stoic 28 May 2013 11: 49 New
      -1
      Rauf. And when you say "Azerbaijanis", who do you mean? Oguzes, Karapapakhs, Kuyunlu, Tats, Talyshs, Lezgins, Avars, Tsakhurs, Rutuls, Udins? Whom? Citizens of Azerbaijan? Then how do the citizens of Iran suddenly become "South Azerbaijanis"?
      If you mean, for example, Iranian Talysh, then they definitely do not consider themselves Azerbaijanis)))
      And if we are talking about the Turks, then write like that. Only the Turks in Azerbaijan and Iran are much less than the declared millions.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 28 May 2013 11: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Stoic
        Rauf. And when you say "Azerbaijanis", who do you mean? Oguzes, Karapapakhs, Kuyunlu, Tats, Talyshs, Lezgins, Avars, Tsakhurs, Rutuls, Udins? Whom? Citizens of Azerbaijan? Then how do the citizens of Iran suddenly become "South Azerbaijanis"?
        If you mean, for example, Iranian Talysh, then they definitely do not consider themselves Azerbaijanis)))
        And if we are talking about the Turks, then write like that. Only the Turks in Azerbaijan and Iran are much less than the declared millions.

        Troll Troll appeared in our area))) What does it suffer from sclerosis. Smart guy, go to the branch about the Gilyansk expedition, where you asked exactly such a question. Read and come to your senses, although it’s unlikely that you are TROL repeat
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Stoic
        Rauf. And when you say "Azerbaijanis", who do you mean? Oguzes, Karapapakhs, Kuyunlu, Tats, Talyshs, Lezgins, Avars, Tsakhurs, Rutuls, Udins? Whom? Citizens of Azerbaijan? Then how do the citizens of Iran suddenly become "South Azerbaijanis"?
        If you mean, for example, Iranian Talysh, then they definitely do not consider themselves Azerbaijanis)))
        And if we are talking about the Turks, then write like that. Only the Turks in Azerbaijan and Iran are much less than the declared millions.
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 05 New
        +2
        they told you once --- the ears are visible to the dashnak of the unfinished)))))))). anyway there are more of them .... whether you want it or not))))) we are more than you. Armenians, envy .. .and by population, and by territory, and by education .... and even in the Euro we are winning you .... not to mention sports .... laughing
  • smersh70
    smersh70 28 May 2013 11: 54 New
    +3
    read more newspapers and magazines ......)))) your knowledge at the level of 1972))))) ... we really 9,5 million .......
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  • annenkov242
    annenkov242 28 May 2013 07: 32 New
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    Putin now has to correct the policy of Yeltsin's rule, and this is no longer so easy, to prove to the states around us, which have already picked up obligations to "America"
    The article is correct, we need to slowly insert at the helm, in this explosive region.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 28 May 2013 07: 55 New
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    quote-in the nineties sane strategy in relation to this region we did not have - however, it was absent in relation to many states of the post-Soviet space.

    good

    quote-Both Americans and Europeans, perfectly understanding the whole significance of the region, are actively trying to penetrate into it, influence local elites. So far, they have obtained the best “cooperation” with Baku. Of course, Azerbaijan is trying to balance, but in general, Washington is both crushing and buying our neighbors in the Caspian.

    immediately along the way the question to the leadership of Russia, who prevents to create institutions of influence and provide support.?! winked

    and finally, the last quote that is most important in my opinion — However, the Karabakh conflict was, of course, an additional factor that complicated bilateral relations. In Azerbaijan, from the very beginning, the point of view that Russia was biased in this conflict and sided with Armenia. Against the same background, the influence of Turkey on Azerbaijani foreign policy sharply increased.

    Well ....... Azerbaijan pushed Russia away, or Russia pushed Azerbaijan away?! Rather, the second than the first. What did Russia gain from this alliance with Armenia? How long will this country be fed, when in Russia, its problems enough. Russia would benefit more from an alliance with Azerbaijan.
    In words, the Russian government supports the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, but in practice ?! winked Why not finally give the Kremlin a fist to hit the table ?! What is needed for this, just a little, desire and all.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 01 New
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      Quote: Apollon
      Azerbaijan pushed Russia away, or Russia pushed away Azerbaijan ?!

      Apollo! with all due respect, remember a recent story-When this issue was being resolved, you had Elchibi in power and Armenia caved in time By the way, I consider this ruler an enemy of your people who shit more than anyone else in the post-Soviet space than all the others put together hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 09 New
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        Quote: Ruslan67
        with all due respect, remember a recent story-When this issue was being resolved, you had Elchibi in power and Armenia caved in time By the way, I consider this ruler an enemy of your people who shit more than anyone else in the post-Soviet space than all the others put together


        the former president of Armenia Levon Ter-Petrosyan, more adequate than the (2-th president) Kocharyan and (current) Sargsyan.
      2. Stoic
        Stoic 28 May 2013 12: 00 New
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        remember the recent story-When this issue was resolved you had the power of Elchibey and Armenia caved in time

        Ruslan. Let me find out for the common development, what kind of history is this recent, and how did Armenia bend?

        Azerbaijan pushed Russia away, or Russia pushed away Azerbaijan ?!

        And what, Azerbaijan was once close to Russia ???
        It is when? Did I miss something?
        Apparently the closeness was in close cooperation with MIT Turkey?
        Azerbaijan proclaimed itself the successor to the ADR of the 1918 model, a state created by the Turks in the person of Nuri Pasha to tear off Transcaucasia from the weakened October Revolution of Russia. How is this state, pan-Turkic in nature, can be an ally of Russia ???
        Again - a competitor in oil and gas.
        And what about the genocide of the long-suffering Azerbaijani people in January 1990 ???
        This is no longer the official point of view in Baku seeking to ally with Russia ??
        I’m not writing about the transit of militants to Turkey and back to the first and second Chechen.
        For example, Paul Khlebnikov, author of the book "A Conversation with a Barbarian," interviewed for this book with Khozh-Akhmed Nukayev, who was then on the federal wanted list of the Russian Federation for numerous grave crimes, in Baku.
        And so yes - Russia pushed away Azerbaijan))
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 28 New
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          the proximity was in the summer of 92, when, with the help of the 106th Kirovabad airborne division (commander Major General Shcherbak), our forces went on the offensive and there was no trace left of the invincible Karabakh Defense Army))) 60% of the Karabakh territory was liberated ... and 10 deputies from Karabakh arrived with a proposal to conclude peace and join the structure of Azerbaijan .., probably forgot the story)))))))))))))
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 31 New
          +5
          Of course, Kazakhstan is a Muslim state, maybe with you in the framework of the CSTO, can join the Euro Asian Union with Russia, but you, Armenia, have still not even entered the customs union))) and did not even recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia)) ) so admit what bothers you)))))))))) laughing
        3. smersh70
          smersh70 28 May 2013 12: 42 New
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          the proximity was in the summer of 92, when, with the help of 106 Kirovabad VDD (Major General Shcherbak), ours went on the offensive, 60% of the territory of Karabakh was liberated, and the so-called Karabakh defense army ran up to Khankendi in a week)))) ... and part of the Karabakh deputies ran to Baku to conclude a peace treaty with a request to leave only cultural autonomy ...... good
          1. Stoic
            Stoic 28 May 2013 13: 03 New
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            It’s good that you, unlike the rest of the hinterland, know perfectly well that all the successes of Azerbaijan in that Karabakh war were connected with the actions of the non-Azerbaijani military.
            106 Kirovabad VDD (Major General Shcherbak)

            And you forget the occupation of the Shahumyan region by forces of 23 VDD 4 of the army
            All you wanted from the Russians was to rake the heat with their hands
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 28 May 2013 14: 20 New
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              read better, I wrote with help, and not completely, Azerbaijanis fought on the field, and because of that, the ovister corps was still feeding, so they helped .. and thank them for that !!!!!!!! in trouble! ... the main thing was to expel you to the end of 92 in the fall of XNUMX from our territory, then they would have occupied how much more. laughing (for the letter S sorry) the keyboard jams)))))
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 28 May 2013 14: 26 New
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              what occupation))) I fought there. do not make me laugh!!!!! laughing during the years of the USSR, the specially-fledged region for Armenians, which used to be part of the Goranboy region, it did not even belong to the administrative border of the NKAR, although it is marked as occupied on your maps)))) all of Azerbaijan can be given to you and not too.) )) so that you do not swell from hunger and blockade !!!!!!!! laughing and our BAKU, and Krasnodar with Rostov, and Los Angeles ... in short, where the foot of Armenin entered, the most ancient Carlos Markosyan lived there))))))
            3. fuad777
              fuad777 28 May 2013 23: 37 New
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              only the Armenians are capable of raking the heat with their hands, and it was because of this that they got 1915.
        4. Yarbay
          Yarbay 29 May 2013 08: 15 New
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          Quote: Stoic
          Ruslan. Let me find out for the common development, what kind of history is this recent, and how did Armenia bend?

          At the same time, he added, even in the context of weapons, one does not need to fall into cynicism. “As for the support of Karabakh, we are all quite knowledgeable people, so there is no need to say that there is no Russian contribution. Why say so? Was there no Russian mite in Lachin? Are you convinced of this? I will not comment further. Whoever heard me, he heard me, ”S. Kurginyan stated.
          1. Stoic
            Stoic 29 May 2013 10: 26 New
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            It was frankly unpleasant to hear Kurginyan’s next passage: “As for the support of Karabakh, we are all quite knowledgeable people, so there’s no need to say that there is no Russian contribution. Why say so? Was there no Russian mite in Lachin? Are you convinced of this? I will not comment further. Whoever hears me hears me. ”

            During the years of Azerbaijan’s aggression against the NKR, Russian mite was, and I’ll definitely say about it too. But first, let me remind you of the full-weight Russian drachma of April - June 1991, since we spoke in the language of the Greek currency. She expressed herself in the operation "Ring", carried out by the 23rd motorized rifle division of the Soviet army, as well as special detachments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR that had specially arrived in the region. Let me remind you that as a result of this operation 24 Armenian villages were wiped off the face of the earth, hundreds were killed and many thousands were deported. Russian drachma, in the form of the 104th airborne division, was in June - September 1992. That drachma cost us the loss of the Shahumyan and most of the Martakert regions of the NKR. Shaumyan, I recall, is still languishing in captivity. But in Berdzor (former Lachin) it was not.

            Birdzor our troops liberated on May 18, 1992. And on June 12 of the same year, the 104th division broke into the Shahumyan region. What has changed in less than a month if, according to Kurginyan, there was a Russian contribution to the liberation of Berdzor? Everything is very simple and ... pragmatic. On June 7, 1992, presidential elections were held in Azerbaijan, the victory of which was won by an ardent pan-Turkist Abulfaz Aliyev (Elchibey). And then Russia decided to cajole him, tear him away from Turkey and lure him to her side. And this could be done at that time in only one way: to ensure the "victory" of the armed forces of Azerbaijan under the command of the new commander in chief. And only when Moscow was convinced of the correctness of the Russian proverb - No matter how much the wolf feeds, he looks into the forest - did she withdraw her troops from Azerbaijan, which predetermined the victory of the NKR.

            This is not a reproach to anyone: the Armenian people had the wisdom to separate the grains of the Russian people from the tares of the Russian government of that time. The Russian people were with us, the Russian government was not. With us were those Russian soldiers who were riding tanks in the Shahumyan region. It was they who shot past the target, they carefully circled the Armenian houses, they warned our population about the next ascers, suitable only for the murder of defenseless and unarmed people. For us, this contribution was more valuable than all the gold of the world, because thanks to it we have maintained faith in true brotherhood.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 29 May 2013 13: 43 New
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              The Shahumyan district today looks better and richer than even Yerevan ...)))). It blooms and equips.))) The resort area. Hotels. Campings, and it does not languish in captivity)))))))))
      3. fuad777
        fuad777 28 May 2013 23: 34 New
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        to bend ... that’s how you evaluate and think in fact- loyalty to Russia. And it was precisely because of such views that Russia was left with nothing.
  • Grbear
    Grbear 28 May 2013 07: 56 New
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    The Caspian is an inland sea, and neighbors must negotiate without "helpers". The intensification of work in this region will have a significant impact on the situation in Syria. The Caspian states must understand that Russia needs good neighbors, not satellites of an overseas state, which "deeply and sincerely" does not care about our problems (economic, environmental, etc.). This interview is a good sign of the activation of the Foreign Ministry (God will help Lavrov), and there will always be bright minds in Russia.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 13 New
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      Quote: GrBear
      Caspian Inland Sea


      I welcome you Mikhail Yuryevich hi

      Actually, the Caspian is a lake.
      As for the agreements, of course this is an internal issue and applies only to the Caspian littoral countries.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 15 New
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        Quote: Apollon
        Actually, the Caspian is a lake.

        Actually, the Caspian is a sea according to a geography textbook, just like the Aral Sea hi
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Ruslan67
          The Caspian Sea is a sea according to the textbook of geography as well as the Aral Sea


          Aral but not Caspian. Bet?! A bottle of cognac.laughing

          Moreover, the largest lake in the world.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 43 New
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            Quote: Apollon
            I bet?

            Of the two arguing - one d u r a to the other scoundrel request Will we argue brother? It is of course a lake but BUT! in all geography textbooks of the times of the USSR -More hi
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 45 New
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              Quote: Ruslan67
              It is of course a lake


              where is the cognac ???????? laughing
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 28 May 2013 08: 48 New
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                Quote: Apollon
                where is the cognac ??

                Pancake ! Ended request crying And in general, in the morning cognac? what Whiskey only bully
            2. bezumnyiPIT
              bezumnyiPIT 28 May 2013 19: 42 New
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              it (the lake) and today on the maps-the sea, just as they called in the old days, they left it (do not rewrite the maps)
  • Bykov.
    Bykov. 28 May 2013 08: 04 New
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    ... Both Americans and Europeans, perfectly understanding the whole significance of the region, are actively trying to penetrate into it, influence local elites. So far, they have obtained the best “cooperation” with Baku ... In addition, “explanatory” work is underway with the population ...

    "Cooperation" with Baku ... well, well, if we remember how civilized "cooperate" with their "allies" in this or that region, in general, in the next elections in Azerbaijan, one can expect some kind of kipish.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 28 May 2013 08: 17 New
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      Quote: Bulls.
      in the next elections in Azerbaijan, you can expect some sort of kipish.


      let there be no foolishness, the elections will be calm, the whole question is who they will be. that is, elected.
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 28 May 2013 09: 48 New
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        Quote: Apollon
        ... yes there will be no boom, the elections will be calm ...

        Is it not for you, after some past elections, the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs dispersed the opposition, they even crushed someone with a truck. Yes, there will be kipish, or not, alas, it depends not only on your desire.
        You can, of course, try to buy peace by loyalty to the interests of the civilized, but this, as Mubarak’s fate has shown, is not as reliable as it seemed in practice.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 28 May 2013 11: 50 New
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          Quote: Bulls.
          Is it not for you, after some past elections, the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs dispersed the opposition, they even crushed someone with a truck. Yes, and there will be kipish,

          Regarding other elections, it will be like the first time Ilham was elected or even grander. Recent rallies have shown that everything will obviously be different than in the previous elections. The current secular opposition is not popular and people are not coming out from their leaders, and because of discontent, everyone knows these leaders after coming to power and then they will also rob, until the Islamic Party blackens itself with the proper approach, they can be a catalyst. Considering that all their leaders are in prison, and all of them were found methodically drugs, although everyone understands that this has been planted. It’s just that the names of their leaders are not very popularly known, but .. they can be easily fixed and their reputation is many times better than opposition leaders who still manage to squabble among themselves.
  • Airman
    Airman 28 May 2013 09: 46 New
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    Alarming in the article is one phrase "to sacrifice tactical interests." It is NOT possible to sacrifice anything, Asia and the East respect the strong, if you give up a little, you will lose everything, but we are already restless there.
    1. fuad777
      fuad777 28 May 2013 23: 42 New
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      I’ll tell you a little secret ... Putin imperceptibly somehow retreats to the Chinese, both in the Far East and in the Urals.
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 29 May 2013 08: 16 New
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        Quote: fuad777
        ... Putin imperceptibly somehow retreats to the Chinese, both in the Far East, as in the Urals ...

        What the **** ? What, exactly, Putin, surrendered to the Chinese, beyond the Urals and the Far East?
  • Vtel
    Vtel 28 May 2013 10: 09 New
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    but overall, Washington is both crushing and buying our neighbors in the Caspian.

    Because Russia now lives without ideology and national idea. And our liberal government, in fact, is also engaged in "trade" of its interests. From this there is no great trust in us. When Russia becomes a truly Orthodox State, then the winds from the South will change.