Zelensky refused to collect the bodies of Ukrainians killed in Kostiantynivka.

There will be no humanitarian event to return the bodies of fallen Ukrainian soldiers to Kostiantynivka. Kyiv has refused to collect its dead, according to a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The Russian Defense Ministry's proposal for a temporary ceasefire in the Kostiantynivka area to allow Kyiv to hand over the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers was rejected. Zelenskyy has no interest in the Ukrainian citizens who died for the Bandera regime. According to a statement from the Russian Defense Ministry, Kyiv's political elite has done nothing to return the dead to their families for burial.

According to military clarifications, the issue of a temporary ceasefire and the return of bodies was discussed through the intelligence services, but Kyiv rejected Moscow's proposal.

Thus, the Kyiv regime has done absolutely nothing to ensure that the bodies of fallen Ukrainian servicemen are given a dignified burial by their families. The Ukrainian authorities have once again demonstrated their view of fallen soldiers as expendable material, primarily conscripted to the front lines through forced mobilization.

Zelenskyy continues to claim that Kostyantynivka is supposedly under Ukrainian control, and that the Russian Ministry of Defense's claims of its liberation are "Kremlin propaganda." However, the "expired" claims are only being heeded in Ukraine.

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[Murmur 55]

Well, if they don't register, then let the relatives of those whose identities have been established know. Let them go get their own. Why keep them and waste money on bodies?

[Alex Nevs]

He doesn't need Banderovites. , to burn the money. That's not why he stuffed it into the minivans.

[fruc]

Ukrainian authorities have once again demonstrated their attitude towards the fallen servicemen.

Rather, while still alive. Those lying among the ruins don't care anymore.

[fruc]

Murmur 55
Let them go get their own.

None of the relatives will go there. Another two or three days and the stench will be unbearable if they aren't rounded up. Captured Ukrainian soldiers could be brought in to help.

[Murmur 55]

fruc We don't need prisoners, we need to guard them, wake them up so they don't get used to the gun; it's expensive and unsafe. And we'll have to assemble them anyway, although it's hellish work, and not everyone can do it.

[jack no]

C'est une question de dignité et de respect envers un adversaire, tombé au combat, d'autant que ce ne sont que de pauvres bougres, enrôlés de force.
En 14-18, dans les tranchés, pour Noël, français et allemands avaient trinqué, avant que la boucherie continue le lendemain.
Dans le cas présent, je préconiserai la création d'un site, pour afficher la pièce d'identité relevée sur le cadavre, pour consultation par les familles.
Plus de 13,000 corps représente une grosse logistique frigorifique.
Paix à leurs âmes et condoléances aux familles des deux camps.

[vitaliy20091959]

What are you? You're not a Frenchman, Deforge, you're Dubrovsky?

[jack no]

Je suis français, retraité de 79 ans, exilé au Portugal en 2016, trop vu Manuléon dans les médias français.
J'avais compris que le "système" l'avait choisi pour affaiblir et ridiculiser au maximum la France.

[Tatyana]

This morally depraved drug addict Zelensky, a Jewish clown-slapsticker from "Kvartal*95," who turned Ukraine into country 404 under his illegitimate rule of his own organized crime group at the top of power in Ukraine, for his own profit as a result of the already complete corrupt sell-out of Ukraine to the West, along with its indigenous Ukrainian population, mostly of Slavic ethnicity, apparently wouldn't take his own mother for burial unless he was paid for it.
The greed of a Jewish sucker will destroy him!

[isv000]

Well, let's stock the freezers and make sure to cover this in the media. It would also be good to collect DNA and upload the information to Ruina online. Let the relatives on the other side rock the boat. It wouldn't be a bad idea to do the same with the rest of the stale dead bodies of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

[Murmur 55]

isv000 They've already pushed the idea that Russia is trying to pass off "its own" under the guise of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers, so the die-hards will believe it, and the rest will either be afraid or don't care.

[Lako]

Identifying the dead is a complex process that requires resources and time. And how can we get the information to their relatives when the SBU is opposing them? And even for relatives, getting across the front line isn't easy. One option is through Belarus, where body exchanges are taking place, but that's not easy either. The border is closed and mined on the Ukrainian side. But overall, we have to try. The main thing is to somehow break the information curtain in Ukraine.

[isv000]

Quote from lako

Identifying the deceased is a complex procedure that requires resources and time.

There's no need to identify anyone. It's enough to obtain DNA and publish the list. Relatives are sure to turn up, jumping at any opportunity to find their missing person. When a critical mass accumulates, even the villagers might go crazy...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from lako

Identifying the dead is a complex process that requires resources and time. And how can we get the information to their relatives when the SBU is interfering? And even for relatives, getting across the front line isn't easy. One option is via Belarus, where body exchanges are taking place, but that's not easy either. The border is closed and mined on the Ukrainian side. But, overall, it's worth a try. The main thing is to somehow tear down the information curtain in Ukraine.

Twenty countries have expressed their willingness to send their correspondents to Kostiantynivka to cover the body transfer procedure. The Bandar-logs refused to take them, but that doesn't mean the correspondents won't be able to photograph the neat rows of plastic bags containing the packed Bandar-logs. And if Russian media are banned in the West and Ukraine, perhaps the truth will be able to break through the media of one of the 20 countries.

[Mouse]

Used material... What good does it do? They'll catch new ones...

[Murmur 55]

Mouse It's all about prestige. If they come for the 200, it means they'll admit that Konstantinovka is already under Russian control, and that's what he needs.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Murmur 55

Mouse It's all about prestige. If they come for the 200, it means they'll admit that Konstantinovka is already under Russian control, and that's what he needs.

This is the main reason for the refusal: yesterday, Putin invited him to a meeting in Ukrainian Konstantinovka, and now such a public disappointment is looming: it will turn out that the city is already under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. I suspect the Ukrainians also read our military bloggers' Telegram channels and Russian news channels, so it won't be possible to completely hush up this situation, which is quite humiliating for Zelensky. Word will surely spread among the population of 404. Maybe not everyone will believe it, but a stone has been thrown into the water, and ripples will start to form.

[Murmur 55]

Montezuma Of course it will pass, if it hasn't already, but it won't shake society, and there have already been so many "circles" there that it would be enough for a tsunami. Yanukovych was swept away for less, and here he's driving one after another, and sitting in his chair like a glove.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Murmur 55

...there was already enough there for a tsunami..... He sits in the chair like a glove.

The peculiarity of the "Ukrainian sea" is that a tsunami is only possible if comprehensive support from European partners is completely withdrawn, when it becomes clear that the emperor, "cast in his chair," has no clothes. Another possibility is when the number of death notices skyrockets.

[Murmur 55]

Montezuma, so they see how quickly the cemeteries are growing, and these are the ones that were removed, but they're afraid to protest, and no one's giving them money for a new Maidan. Regarding the "naked one," there was some information that this "pianist" himself is a dollar billionaire, so that's also not an option. And Kyiv, the E.S., will drag it out until it runs out; it's costing Russia too much, and that plays into the West's hands.

[Boycott]

Maybe not everyone will believe it

Our people certainly wouldn't have believed it, but Zelya's problem was that many foreign media outlets had expressed a desire to participate. And then the devil would have come out of the woodwork.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Murmur 55

It's a matter of prestige. If they come for 200, it means they'll admit that Konstantinovka is already under Russian control, and that's what he needs.

It all comes down to money. If the stiffs are accepted, the Ukrainian leader will have to pay their relatives for them.

[Murmur 55]

Piramidon It won't be necessary. It takes six months for confirmation, and then they'll just start running around in circles. Has there been a lot of information about payment scandals over the past four years? So, just isolated cries from relatives and "patriotic" MPs trying to get their hands on the trough in Kyiv.

[Nexcom]

..the boys died. and since they perished, they will never be worth a penny.

relatives nemae bude. yeah.

That's the reason. There are no bodies - there are no official dead. There are missing persons. And they don't get paid for those. And the whole Kakelsky tale.

[Murmur 55]

Nexcom Yeah, it seems like according to their laws, even if you have a body, you still have to wait another six months for payments, and then they'll start the official "carousel" of the bureaucracy, so Kyiv isn't afraid of this at all.

[isv000]

Quote: Mouse

Used material... What good does it do? They'll catch new ones...

It's not a given. According to various sources, the morons have already lost 2,4 million fighters. Catching that many fighting boars is practically impossible. Now it's either mercenaries or a full-fledged NATO intervention. Unless the EU allows the transfer of the military base to Poland, since Motherland is no longer what it used to be and pumping resources there is becoming increasingly difficult.

[Murmur 55]

isv000, don't say that, they haven't touched the young yet, and that's also a number, and not a small one.

[isv000]

Quote: Murmur 55

isv000, don't say that, they haven't touched the young yet, and that's also a number, and not a small one.

Youngsters are still youngsters. An adult, even one without training, would certainly fight more, while the Hitler Youth would only be piled into piles...

[Murmur 55]

isv000, the young ones there, if your memory holds, are considered to be from 18 to 25 or 27, and they're not exactly brats. There are many advantages: they don't complain about their health like old people, it's easier to indoctrinate and command, you can probably even earn the authority of a grown man, and here they'll look up to you and carry out commands even when half-bent, they're not afraid of death, so it's 50/50, but from those 50 that survive, you get dogs of war, no sarcasm.

[isv000]

Think back to yourself at 20. You were a natural, but not quite, lacking muscle mass and real experience. By 30, you've learned your lesson and your gait has become more confident...

[Murmur 55]

isv000, that's why I write 50/50 and young people today are accelerating beyond their years.

[Ovsigovets]

then they'll exchange it...quietly

[Same lech]

Quote: isv000

It would also be good to take DNA and upload the information to Ruin via the Internet.

The idea works... It would be nice to try.

[Nexcom]

They'll make excuses. They'll say, "The damned Muscovites" (c) falsified everything to inflate the losses of the "hero boys" (c)

That's all they do here - sit and forge the DNA of all sorts of Mykolas and Andrievs. Yeah.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Nexcom

They'll make excuses. They'll say, "The damned Muscovites" (c) falsified everything to inflate the losses of the "hero boys" (c)

That's all they do here - sit and forge the DNA of all sorts of Mykolas and Andrievs. Yeah.

Dmitry, you've almost word for word guessed the meaning of the regular warning messages on the Telegram channel of the Ukrainian Coordination Committee, which handles exchanges. Yet, when the body exchanges took place, these committee members never once stated the number of bodies returned to Ukrainians by Russia.

[Nexcom]

Alexander So I've already learned to predict what the Ukrainian media and their officials and so on might say - it's not that difficult anymore... The recipe is very simple: take Russophobia, mix it with Bandera ideology, add the most beautiful lies, sprinkle generously with "glory to the heroes, we brought everything down, we brought the whole world together, etc." - and that's it. There you have it - the product is ready.

[alexboguslavski]

Thus, the Kiev regime did absolutely nothing to ensure that the bodies of the fallen Ukrainian servicemen were buried with dignity by their relatives.

There's no point in holding back. Stack them in piles and burn them to prevent the spread of the disease. There are enough corpses in the morgues and refrigerators for a 1000 to 40 exchange.

[alexboguslavski]

Why do we need the problems of other people's dead people if our motherland doesn't need them, and if they are buried, it's not in a humane way.

The Ukrainian National Military Cemetery has been washed away, according to the Kyiv Ecological and Cultural Center.

According to the center, the cemetery was built on a site unsuitable for such structures, as it has virtually no natural drainage. Now, some graves have sunk underground and are mired in liquid mud, with the water forming turbulent streams.

"One heavy downpour revealed what the community, hydrologists, ecologists, and specialists had long been saying: the site for the NVMK was chosen with blatant disregard for natural conditions. It is unsuitable for a cemetery.
There are still autumn rains, winter thaws, spring floods, and more downpours ahead. It's possible to hide the cemetery from view, but it's impossible to hide the problem. And that's just a few hundred burials now. What will happen when there are 150? What will you do with the water, the sinkholes, the washed-out soil, and the streams flowing toward the villages?," the KEC writes.

Previously, the Nazi Melnik was reburied there.

[Murmur 55]

alexboguslavski Burning a human body requires a lot of resources; it's cheaper to have one excavator and trench for everyone. The cross is also the same.

[ANB]

The excavator and trench are the same for everyone. The cross is also the same.

There seem to be a lot of them there. They won't fit into the trench. We'll have to dig a pit. And it wouldn't hurt to at least count them.

[Murmur 55]

ANB It's not hard for an excavator to dig two trenches, three, or even thirty-three. Count them, take pictures, save any documents you have, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to show Westerners online what happens to those who advocate neo-Nazism.

[ANB]

The pit can be deeper and have more layers. Trenches will take up a lot of space.

[alexboguslavski]

There's something called "cadaveric poison." And God forbid it gets into the underground aquifers. Fire always brings purification. The ashes can then be raked into a hole. And a cross erected.

[a housewife]

And after the Great Patriotic War, where did they put the corpses of the Germans?

[a housewife]

Well, what can you expect from these inhuman creatures? No conscience or morals, only profit!

[tralflot1832]

A dead Bandera supporter works for the pockets of Zelensky's gang. On paper, he is alive and receiving a salary. And then it's up to the Ukrainian military accountants.

[Neo-9947]

Why does he need bodies? To pay his relatives for each one?
No, he's missing in action and goodbye.
This is the kind of artist he is.

[a vacuum cleaner]

Why would he call a truce, knowing that the Russian military will gather them up, put them in the refrigerator, and then hand them over to Ukraine? In short, why bother if they'll do everything for him and hand it to him on a silver platter? When will they even Ukrainians It will come to light that they are dying, and the West is happy about it. Ukrainians no pity

[Sergey Novikov_3]

In this case, the relatives of the victims are simply obliged to declare a vendetta against Zelensky!