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Sweden: made wisely

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Remember the popular TV commercials: “Sweden: done wisely”? Swedes are really great masters to surprise the world with original technical solutions. The military of many countries from the middle of the last century raised their eyebrows over and over again, seeing new Swedish developments in the field of armored vehicles.


For the first time, the Swedes surprised the world with a novelty in the field of armored vehicles, perhaps, back in the early thirties. At that time, the main disadvantage tanks there was a fragility of the tracks - they "flew" literally after 80-100 km of travel along the highway. Because of this, in order to save materiel and save fuel, tanks drove directly to the battlefield on trailers, or even in the back of a truck. Which, of course, was inconvenient! To solve this problem, in many countries they began to design wheeled-tracked tanks, simultaneously equipped with independent wheeled and tracked engines. Prototypes of similar equipment were created in France, the UK and Czechoslovakia. But the best, truly capable model, was created precisely by the Swedes.

Swedish Reckless Strv103 Tank


Pointing guns on the target vertically in the tank Strv103 was carried out due to the fact that the hydropneumatic suspension allows you to change the clearance and give the car tilt forward or backward


Self-propelled gun VK-155 "Bendkanon"


L-30


In 1931, the Swedish firm Landsverk launched the L-30 tank for testing. He had to lift and lower the wheels by the force of the motor in just 20 s, and this could be done not only on the spot, but also in motion. For comparison, let us say that the Czechoslovak KN-50 used the same operation for 10-15 mines, and special supports were used. The L-30 raised the wheels did not worsen the view and did not interfere with the use of weapons. Thanks to the duplicated drive and two places for drivers, the tank could move forward and reverse with equal success. In 1933, the Landsverk created a faster, lighter version of the tank called the L-80. However, both cars did not go into the series.

At about the same time, Landswerk launched the first stories tank with rational angle of armor, anticipating the famous Soviet T-34 and French FCM 36. It was a light reconnaissance L-100 weighing just 4,5 tons. It was armed with an 20-mm cannon and an 8-mm machine gun, located in a conical shape of the turret. He also had other innovations: an individual torsion bar suspension and a periscope sight. In the application of the torsion bar suspension, the Swedes outstripped the German Pz. IIIE and the Soviet KB for five years, and the American M24 "Chaffee" and at all for ten years. L-100 had a very high power density - 29 l. s./t, which allowed him to develop a greater speed for that time - up to 60 km / h. This tank also did not become a large-scale car, but still three small batches, slightly differing from each other, were issued. The few L-100 were in service until the early fifties.

In 1966, the Swedes were again, as they say, ahead of the rest. It was then that the series was launched by designed by the specialists of the companies Landsverk and Bofors, a reckless tank Strv103, also known as “S”. He was armed with a thoroughly modified famous English 105-mm tank gun L7. It is rigidly secured in the front, strongly beveled sheet of the body. Targeting on the target vertically carried out due to the fact that the hydropneumatic suspension allows you to change the clearance and tilt the tank forward and backward. Horizontally, the tank pointed the gun at the target by turning the hull. A complete rotation around the Strvl axis 03 was able to accomplish in just 10 s! This is when most tanks take almost half a minute to rotate the turret 360 degrees.

Pbv302 armored personnel carrier




The propulsion system of the Swedish turretless tank turned out to be very original. For an economical course, he used the English 240-strong diesel Rolls-Royce K-60, and for acceleration to maximum speed, he also connected a Volvo gas-turbine engine with a capacity of 330 l. with. In the eighties, with the modernization of machines, the engines were replaced by more modern ones. Thanks to the rigid installation of the gun, it was possible to introduce automatic loading on the Strvl 03 and achieve a record-breaking rate of fire of 15 per minute. This, while for other tanks, this figure ranged from 5 to 8. Note that the tank "S" also knows how to swim. To overcome the water obstacles on it is used an individual craft of the frame type.

The Strvl 03 base was used to design the VK-155 “Bendkanon” self-propelled gun, which also surprised the military experts of the whole world with its originality. On it, so that the crew is not threatened with death in the case of detonation of the munition, the latter was taken out of the hull and tower. At the Bendkanon, the Swedish designers installed a kind of turret consisting of two autonomous halves, between which they placed the gun pointing drives, and the container with 14 shells was on the breech side of the gun, in the back of the machine, playing the role of a counterweight. The fire went on automatically, and all the shells could be fired off in a queue in just 45 s, bringing down the enemy with the same hail of fire as a whole battery of conventional cannons of the same caliber.


Light tank IKV-91


Articulated Bv206 Transporter


Cabin of the driver of an armored personnel carrier Bv206


During the 1966-68. Approximately 30 such self-propelled guns were produced. They were very heavy - around 60 t - and, because of this, unusually slow for modern self-propelled artillery. Their maximum speed does not exceed 28 km / h, which would be quite normal for the thirties or forties of the last century, but not for the second half of it.

Back in the early sixties, the Swedish company Högglund and Sener received an order to develop a tracked armored personnel carrier, later designated Pbv302. At its base, it was decided to make a light tank, which could be used to solve reconnaissance tasks, provide fire support to infantry, and also to fight from ambush with enemy tanks. The result of the design work was a light tank IKV-91, mass production of which began in 1975, without a number of innovative solutions has not done here. Thus, the upper part of the sides of the IKV-91 has a spaced, that is, two-layer booking, with tanks with fuel and spare parts placed between the sheets of armor. Now you will not surprise anyone with such a technical solution, but for the beginning of the seventies the spaced armor was a wonder.

But the main highlight of the IKV-91 is, of course, its 90-mm gun. She shoots feathered projectiles with liquid propellant. The pressure of the gases in its barrel is low, which makes it possible to achieve a very long life of the gun. With liquid propellants are still working in many countries around the world, until now no one has yet reached the production samples. As for the rest, the IKV-91 is a quite ordinary tank: twin and anti-aircraft machine guns, a laser range-finder, a ballistic computer, smoke grenade launchers.

Once again, the Swedish developers have passed on the originals of the highest degree, having designed the articulated Bv206 transporter. It was the brainchild of Högglund, which won in the early seventies a tender for the right to develop and mass-produce a light articulated all-terrain vehicle with an active trailer for the needs of the army, patrol units and rescue services. It was planned to be used primarily for the transport of troops and equipment in the snow-covered areas and swampy areas of northern Sweden. However, BV206 soon became widespread throughout Scandinavia, and to date, 11000 order has been produced for such transporters used in 37 countries of the world, including Russia, the USA, Canada and China.

Infantry fighting vehicle CV-90


The army version is covered with anti-bullet armor and is designed for the driver and 11 fully equipped soldiers. Four sit in the front section of the conveyor, the other eight - in the back. Civilian options can accommodate up to 17 people. Bv206 is able to swim at speeds up to 4,7 km / h. Canadians and British used these articulated transporters even in the fighting in the highlands of Afghanistan. There they showed a very interesting property. The specific pressure of the Bv206 tracks on the ground turned out to be so low that they moved through minefields without causing mine explosions.

The CV-90 infantry fighting vehicle launched into mass production in the early nineties seemed to fit in well with all the engineering solutions that were classic for this type of equipment and adopted throughout the world. The engine compartment in the front of the hull, the landing gear in the aft, two-seat turret with an 40-mm automatic cannon in the middle of the hull. Of the total number of the car, it was only an unusually powerful cannon for infantry fighting vehicles, created on the basis of anti-aircraft guns of the Second World War. However, the Soviet BMP-3, which went to the series at about the same time, was armed with the 100-mm cannon coupled with an 30-mm machine gun!

But when the Swedes decided to design a self-propelled mortar on the basis of the CV-90, they again sighed. On the BMP chassis, they hoisted the AMOS turret with two 120-mm mortars of high elongation, capable of firing both mines and projectiles, including guided STRIX ammunition. This gigantic “double-barreled gun” is capable of firing at a rate of 25 rounds per minute at distances up to 10 km. Their mass production for the Swedish army is scheduled to begin at the end of 2011, but a contract has already been signed for the delivery of a batch of lightweight single-barreled self-propelled mortars to Slovenia, called NEMO CV-90.

CV-90 infantry fighting vehicle in Afghanistan


Self-propelled mortar CV-90 AMOS
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 27 May 2013 07: 31
    +3
    And really, everything is original, certainly not for war, but still.
    1. bask
      bask 27 May 2013 08: 11
      22
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      And really, everything is original, certainly not for war, but still.

      CV-90, the best BMP-modular platform. Today's.
      They are fighting in Afghanistan, as part of the Norwegian contingent.
      And it’s worth mentioning the modular multi-purpose platform. On tracked and wheeled. SEP 6/6 8/8. Mass from 17-22 tons.
      The ideal design to create the BMD-5.
      1. Argon
        Argon 27 May 2013 11: 11
        +1
        I wouldn’t get so excited, freeze, hold your breath for 5s, think, make a balanced decision.
      2. astra
        astra 27 May 2013 17: 37
        +4
        Self-propelled mortar CV-90 AMOS

        In the design of the Swedes, well done, in the photo you can safely display the sample in a science fiction film such as Star Wars.
      3. mejik
        mejik 27 May 2013 18: 25
        +7
        but the Swedish technique in the mountains of the North Caucasus, namely on the Lago-naki plateau, the "Bear's corner" shelter. photo of 2007. My!
        Swedish occupiers ???
        1. mejik
          mejik 27 May 2013 18: 32
          +2
          but closer and with his wife ...)))

          in fact, the photos have a decent resolution, but I don’t know how to put them here. I will be immensely grateful to the hint.
        2. bask
          bask 27 May 2013 23: 31
          +1
          Quote: mejik
          here is the Swedish technique in the mountains of the North Caucasus, namely on the Lago-naki plateau, the "Bear's corner" shelter. photo of 2007.

          That's when the Swedish all-terrain vehicle will ride like ours, not when.
          Yes, they have everything done WELL.
          And RUSSIA WITH SOUL !!!
          I don’t know what is better.
          But they didn’t think of such a Swede !!!!
          Russian ,, Hamer ,, for underwater riding.
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 28 May 2013 10: 49
            +2
            Tin! And drove with passengers inside in scuba gear?
          2. old man54
            old man54 28 May 2013 19: 01
            +2
            to feel! takoggo has not yet seen!
          3. Navy7981
            Navy7981 30 May 2013 11: 57
            0
            Wow! Well done !!! Well these are some engineers !!!
          4. almost demobil
            almost demobil 1 June 2013 05: 19
            0
            What is he breathing with !? With that door open!? That's who's crazy! wassat
  2. Denis
    Denis 27 May 2013 07: 46
    +7
    He was armed with a thoroughly modified famous English 105-mm tank gun L7. It was firmly fixed in the frontal, strongly sloping sheet of the body.
    I wonder how accurately managed to induce? Vertical hydraulics are more or less clear, although it seems to me more accurate gearbox. And even more so horizontally by rotation, on even asphalt it’s difficult
    Or was the main thing to frighten with a roar?
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 28 May 2013 08: 04
      +2
      And if the tank does not stand out of the blue ???? Suppose in a forest with a roll in any direction ... you turn it horizontally, you get a tip vertically .... and ???? SHO do ???? Or do they have flat forest)
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 27 May 2013 07: 47
    10
    "Once again, Swedish developers are known as originals of the highest degree with the design of the articulated conveyor Bv206."

    I had to move around, the thing is cool, smooth ride, quiet sound and comfort, with our caterpillar equipment for these indicators is not even.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 27 May 2013 08: 29
      +9
      With the "DT-30" Vityaz "did not try to compare? He is much more abruptly Swede.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 27 May 2013 08: 41
        +7
        Quote: Bongo
        With the "DT-30" Vityaz "did not try to compare? He is much more abruptly Swede.

        Well, you compared, these are cars of a completely different class, a Swede almost as long as a DT-30 wide.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 27 May 2013 09: 27
          10
          But they have the same principle, although they have no analogues in their class.
          DT-30P "Vityaz" Machine weight - 29 t, load capacity - 30 t, number of seats in the cabin - 5
          Swedish tracked articulated transporter Bv-206. Machine weight 4,34 t, load capacity 2 t.
          In my opinion, our car is preferable.
      2. bask
        bask 27 May 2013 09: 21
        10
        Quote: Bongo
        Have you tried to compare with DT-30 Vityaz? He is much cooler than a Swede.

        Better, according to the performance characteristics, there’s nothing to even compare. Our D-30 is a cut above.
        But where is he in the armored version in the military ???? No, not me..
        And the Swedish ,, Viking ,, BvS-10, is fighting in Afghanistan, in the British contingent.
        We have all-terrain vehicles and not only ,, knight ,, which can be booked and used for military purposes.
        The all-terrain vehicle MGShSCh-521 (GPL-520).
        TTX
        Net weight, kg 9850
        Full load capacity, kg 3000
        Number of passengers eighteen
        The mass of the transported equipment, kg 1200
        Gross weight, kg 13000
        Maximum speed, km / h
        on highway 42
        afloat 6
        Cruising range 550 cl
        Ground clearance - 400 mm
        Engine D20NR-250 power, 250 l / s.
        Overall dimensions, mm 6625 /
        / 3140 / 2850
        Fuel tank capacity, 525 lit.
        1. Argon
          Argon 27 May 2013 11: 15
          +2
          So they booked it (well, they brought it to mind a bit), so the BMP-1 turned out, didn’t it? :)
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  4. igor36
    igor36 27 May 2013 08: 43
    +8
    Swedish turretless tank Strv103. According to our classification, this is more likely an ACS than a tank. Anti-tank self-propelled guns for ambush action. Once discovered for a tank, this is already a target.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 May 2013 12: 00
      +4
      Quote: igor36
      Vedic turretless tank Strv103. According to our classification, this is more likely an ACS than a tank.

      I also do not understand, if there is no tower and the trunk is not rotated anywhere it is impossible what is smart done in Sweden ??
      and definitely not a tank!
      1. nok01
        nok01 27 May 2013 16: 53
        +4
        And in the Swedish forest you won’t turn the tower very much :) The self-propelled guns are purely for defense, made for the conditions of your area ...
      2. bazilio
        bazilio 27 May 2013 16: 54
        +6
        Quote: igor36
        Tank destroyer for ambush action

        Yes, it's more like an SPG. But on the other hand, the Swedes did not prepare for an attack, they were preparing to fight off the Soviet armored tanks. To increase the survivability of their cars, the Swedes abandoned the tower. They got a 100% tank destroyer. And you are right - to work for him only from ambushes from closed positions, maneuverable combat is not for him
  5. avt
    avt 27 May 2013 09: 48
    +7
    Quote: igor36
    Swedish turretless tank Strv103. According to our classification, this is more likely an ACS than a tank.

    When I saw their classification for the first time, long ago in the USSR, I thought for a long time - a self-propelled gun with a rotating turret, and the tank, well, purely SU during the war. recourse laughing And the technique is interesting, but the truth is a question for the admirers of the rezun - the truth about Stalin that revealed to them. But did the Swedes also want to attack Germany and conquer Europe, did the tanks go on wheels, as did the Czechs, by the way? laughing
  6. Kars
    Kars 27 May 2013 09: 55
    +4
    But the main "highlight" of the IKV-91 is, of course, its 90 mm gun. She shoots feathered shells with liquid throwing substance


    But this is just big news for me. It would be interesting in more detail, the first time I heard about this.


    Outlined Englishman
  7. Myasnov
    Myasnov 27 May 2013 10: 46
    +4
    Strv103 Very handsome. It’s such a small big guy.
    1. bask
      bask 27 May 2013 11: 10
      +3
      Quote: Myasnov
      Strv103 Very handsome. It’s such a small big guy.

      Sweden: made wisely

      And do we have in Russia that there are few talented and smart people-engineers ????
      More than in Sweden, I'm sure.
      Handicraft-developed all-terrain vehicles of Russia. Launched in small-scale production.
      Independent suspension using BTR-60, UAZ units.
      What a design !!! What an ergonomics.
      It is only necessary to book, finalize the design, strengthen the MTO, chassis.
      And ready-made multi-purpose armored vehicles and MPI !!!
  8. carbofo
    carbofo 27 May 2013 11: 04
    +2
    Swedes well done, as for the original ideas.
    But our tank school, although not perfect, is the best.
    Since the days of the Second World War, we have been leaders in tank building, while no one has snatched the first one from us.
  9. kostiknet
    kostiknet 27 May 2013 11: 32
    +2
    By God, wonderful Scandinavian children ... laughing I saw a similar "chisel" in Kubinka, it looks quite funny. But there was no trust in reliability (in the case of protracted battles in the absence of AT&R). They made the tank too complicated.
  10. Argon
    Argon 27 May 2013 11: 47
    0
    Fortunately, or unfortunately, the Swedes have no personal experience of the "war of engines", so they are trying to master someone else's combat experience and their own operating experience, as the respected tronin.maxim just noted, turns out to be original but not for war (Strv-103). the case "transport of the forester" (Bv206), and the technology of melitarization, from that of a jeep, is not very different. lol PS: In general, it’s better for them to work, the originality is much more appropriate there.
  11. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 27 May 2013 12: 25
    +3
    Thanks to the author BUT
    "managed to introduce automatic loading on Strvl 03 and achieve a record rate of fire of 15 rounds per second." in a SECOND ?!
    Pound or typo .... this is what kind of machine gun ...
    PSArticle is ancient dated to 2011, nothing new.
    1. Kars
      Kars 27 May 2013 12: 30
      +4
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      it was possible to introduce automatic loading on Strvl 03 and achieve a record rate of fire of 15 rounds per second. "in a SECOND?! O_O
      Pound or typo .... this is what kind of machine gun ...


      The most that is pure truth, only of course per minute)
  12. Skuto
    Skuto 27 May 2013 12: 47
    +3
    The Strv-103 is a great tank for ambush action in the forest. You won’t be able to fight with an ordinary tower between trees.
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    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 May 2013 13: 30
      +3
      I see ... it means to invade the Swedes in our steppes - a bad job. You can sleep peacefully.
    3. mr.Man
      mr.Man 27 May 2013 15: 58
      +8
      Strv-103 rather a combination of tank with self-propelled guns
      It is rather difficult to maintain and implies quality maintenance for it what
      Quote: Skuto
      You won’t be able to fight with the usual tower between the trees.
      Well, to turn around with a body to aim and uproot a centuries-old spruce is probably easier than a tower ...

      If you fight against Sweden and see how the trees in the forest begin to fall, then these are not lumberjacks, this Strv-103 is aiming in an ambush ... lol
  13. sashka
    sashka 27 May 2013 14: 11
    +7
    If you look at the Germans, they dictate the fashion in cars. And the Swedes, as usual, calmly and slowly give out quite interesting ideas, where no one was expecting .. And this makes the brains of many other countries "think". In the Russian language is. Silently .. True, we are talking about digging, but the meaning does not change. The main thing is to quietly and not shouting about it to the whole world. To gather in a bunch of shortcomings and try to eliminate them. I love their approach. Article +
    1. bask
      bask 27 May 2013 15: 41
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      Put together a bunch of flaws and try to fix them

      Like the Germans, quietly and methodically.
      It doesn’t work out with us.
      In what I agree. We must first make-produce, and shouting the whole world with a stalemate, it has no analogues ,,.
      Recently (as it’s not a pity) we have been shouting and stealing more — sawing than producing and creating.
      For the 13th year, more than one model of armored vehicles was not adopted for service, or at least it was received for military tests!
    2. Denis
      Denis 27 May 2013 16: 20
      +3
      Quote: Sasha
      The Swedes, as usual, calmly and slowly, give out rather interesting ideas, where no one was waiting.
      Yes, one of them is worth J-35. Not the noise of advertising, but time ahead of its
      What’s the real breakthrough
      1. bask
        bask 27 May 2013 18: 28
        0
        Quote: Denis
        What’s the real breakthrough

        What is the breakthrough?
        German tank destroyer, hatzer, arr. 1944. The concept of construction is the same. In Swedes, only MTO is in the nose. ALL
        Here in the USSR a tank was built, object-279. THERE HE HAS DEFINED THE TIME OF YEARS AT 50 T !!!

        BUT SWEDISH TALKS ALL TO SERIAL PRODUCTION.
        And we all poheril for the sake of ,, simplicity ,, cheapness and mass.
        1. Denis
          Denis 28 May 2013 01: 27
          +2
          Quote: bask
          What is the breakthrough?
          I don’t know much about the 279 object yet.
          Only I'm not talking about armored vehicles, maybe there was an example out of place, but J-35 is like an airplane
        2. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 28 May 2013 04: 42
          0
          Quote: bask
          And we all poheril for the sake of ,, simplicity ,, cheapness and mass.

          but only because of this cheapness and mass, you still breathe!
          poheril ... sometimes you need to think!
  14. tlauicol
    tlauicol 27 May 2013 14: 56
    +2
    the tank must be compared with the cars of the 60-70s, when it was built. a very interesting technique for that time is just a breakthrough
  15. Avenger711
    Avenger711 27 May 2013 15: 25
    +2
    In 1931, the Swedish firm Landsverk launched the L-30 tank for testing. He had to lift and lower the wheels by the force of the motor in just 20 s, and this could be done not only on the spot, but also in motion. For comparison, let us say that the Czechoslovak KN-50 used the same operation for 10-15 mines, and special supports were used. The L-30 raised the wheels did not worsen the view and did not interfere with the use of weapons. Thanks to the duplicated drive and two places for drivers, the tank could move forward and reverse with equal success. In 1933, the Landsverk created a faster, lighter version of the tank called the L-80. However, both cars did not go into the series.


    That is, the weight went hell knows where. But this is armor and weapons. In general, in the world, usually, there are reasons why certain layout decisions dominate. For example, tanks with a front MTO are almost never found.
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  17. Mister X
    Mister X 27 May 2013 17: 06
    0
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    And really, everything is original, certainly not for war, but still.




    In this film, the Swedes say that the Strv 103 tank was created to fight Russian tanks
    Transmission in Ukrainian, could literally translate only the beginning of the phrase:
    "Sweden is a neutral country, but it was located between the Warsaw Pact and NATO"
    "So that no one invades her"
    and further about Russian tanks
    1. Denis
      Denis 27 May 2013 18: 17
      +2
      Quote: Mister X
      Transmission in Ukrainian,
      Bummer, but I thought that Swedish is so similar
    2. Mister X
      Mister X 27 May 2013 19: 14
      +1
      Note that the tank "S" also knows how to swim

      the same film says that he’s not only able to swim,
      he is also digging himself.
  18. My address
    My address 27 May 2013 17: 20
    0
    Late looked at the article.
    Fully agree with many. The 103 is not a tank, it is a good anti-tank SPG. As a tank, he is not a rival even to T-55, who will catch and embed it in the board, but 103 has nothing to snap at. But the Swedes are great.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 27 May 2013 17: 28
      -2
      Aha-5000 of Soviet tanks will ambush and catch 200 Swedes going to attack?
      low profile, excellent angle of inclination of the armor, 105 mm gun 62 caliber long, full control automation duplicated for all crew members, maneuverability, speed back and forth, automatic loader! floating - but no T-55 was even lying nearby! and he will not catch the Swede, but rather the opposite. such a thing in the forest and T-72mu will give odds
      1. Lapotnik
        Lapotnik 27 May 2013 18: 04
        +2
        Yeah, as a felling. how will it be guided by a moving target, given the fact that there are stabilizers from the barrel — hydraulics and tracks?
        How will it shoot? spinning in place and trying to hit a moving target?
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 27 May 2013 18: 31
          -2
          that’s exactly how it will be guided, and will do it faster than any other tank. It will be ambushed, it will carry out a sighting on the ground - until it is discovered, it will burn more than one tank with such a gun
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 27 May 2013 19: 46
            0
            in a word, this is an ambush tank. and if on the way to the ambush our men jump out to meet and start firing at the convoy of ambush Swedish tanks? how then can the Swedes shoot back and dump the treacherous Soviet non-ambush tanks?
            or self-propelled guns really made of it, or an ordinary tank with a tower. and so - neither one nor the other.
            and many other things I liked from them. the Swedes have come up with a lot (not only in the military sphere).
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 28 May 2013 15: 21
              0
              for this, our non-ambush tanks must cross the sea on ships or Finland, and preferably without losses and with software at hand. So the Swedes knew who would be in ambush,
      2. Fofan
        Fofan 27 May 2013 21: 12
        +3
        Quote: Tlauicol
        and he will not catch the Swede, but rather the opposite. such a thing in the forest and T-72mu will give odds

        and in the mountains and in outer space, the Swede will be agon agon
      3. old man54
        old man54 28 May 2013 00: 04
        0
        but a Swede can shoot only from a stationary state, which ... greatly reduces his fighting qualities and survival! Well, an ambush, shot several tanks. But you won’t stand still all the time, otherwise other tanks will bypass and you’ll kapets! You need to change the position and then you kapets, tk. during movement he is incapacitated! If the vogues didn’t fall on the move, then the maneuvers themselves will start, because they know that the Swede will not cut out. And how to get under the sights ... then him and :(
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 28 May 2013 15: 31
          0
          which tank in the 60s-70s could shoot in motion and hit? and with such a gun, he first burns everything in a radius of 2 km, and only then changes his position. if they find him at all.
          1. old man54
            old man54 28 May 2013 19: 12
            0
            You can easily detect this "tnak" by a bullet cloud after a shot, especially if it is buried, the weapon is close to the ground level, then in general, it will be visible for several kilometers! And who could be guaranteed to hit and hit on the move? The T-62 could at least, it already had a barrel stabilization system. Although even during the Second World War, tanks often hit and hit right away during the attack, too, the gunner also depends on the mechanic drive.
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 28 May 2013 19: 31
              0
              On October 17, 1973, the Egyptian 25th Armored Brigade, armed with T-62, took part in an unsuccessful attempt to eliminate the Israeli threat to the right flank of the 2nd Army on the east coast of the Suez Canal. The brigade fell into a trap organized by the Israelis and lost 85 of the approximately hundreds of T-62s in service. Israeli losses in this battle amounted to 4 tanks, which were blown up on an Israeli minefield during the pursuit of a retreating enemy - a typical example, and after all, not a forest and dust flew
  19. Mister X
    Mister X 27 May 2013 19: 41
    +2
    On the BMP chassis, they hoisted an AMOS turret with two 120-mm mortars


    Their serial production for the Swedish army is planned to begin at the end of 2011.

    Already the middle of 2013 year wink

    1. olosors
      olosors 2 June 2013 19: 42
      0
      Vryatli.
      They do not prepare for war
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 27 May 2013 19: 45
    +3
    The vaunted hydro-pneumatic suspension is its weak spot. After hitting just the rink ..... it's an unarmed target!
  21. Fofan
    Fofan 27 May 2013 21: 09
    0
    Quote: bazilio

    Yes, it's more like an SPG. But on the other hand, the Swedes did not prepare for an attack, they were preparing to fight off the Soviet armored tanks.
    yes, schiz in the west has always been strong, so what about the current time
  22. Algor73
    Algor73 27 May 2013 21: 14
    +1
    And how does he shoot on the move?
    1. Zmey_2Garin
      Zmey_2Garin 27 May 2013 23: 06
      +1
      But no way! He can’t shoot straight off, that’s what a misfortune! Only from short stops, like WWII tanks.
  23. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 27 May 2013 21: 52
    +2
    strv is standing in stockholm in front of the army museum, I recommend visiting the museum itself. a very non-trivial approach to exposure, actually anti-war
  24. Setrac
    Setrac 27 May 2013 23: 00
    0
    I wonder what his angle of horizontal guidance? I mean, without turning the case!
    1. old man54
      old man54 28 May 2013 00: 10
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      Quote: Setrac
      I wonder what his angle of horizontal guidance? I mean, without turning the case!


      Equal - 0 !!! Only by direct fire by turning the body like a "flyer", ie fighter plane (they said so in the film)!
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 28 May 2013 00: 26
        0
        Quote: old man54
        Equal - 0 !!! Only by direct fire by turning the body like a "flyer", ie fighter plane (they said so in the film)!

        OOOO, but how to aim? And vertically, how to aim, as in the figure, raising and lowering the front of the case?
        1. old man54
          old man54 28 May 2013 19: 16
          0
          Yes, aim only by adjusting the clearance in the stern and in the bow, and horizontally by turning the entire hull. probably checked, probably you could hit, though ...
    2. Denis
      Denis 28 May 2013 01: 19
      +1
      Quote: Setrac
      what is his horizontal pointing angle?
      This is from the article:
      Strv103, also known as "S". He was armed with a thoroughly modified famous English 105-mm tank gun L7. It was firmly fixed in the frontal, strongly sloping sheet of the body
      Hard
  25. Alf
    Alf 27 May 2013 23: 35
    0
    To solve this problem, in many countries they began to design wheeled-tracked tanks, simultaneously equipped with independent wheeled and tracked engines. Prototypes of similar equipment were created in France, the UK and Czechoslovakia. But the best, truly capable model, was created precisely by the Swedes.
    The author mixed sour and salty.
    1.Remind me, please, which of the wheeled-tracked tanks of France, Britain, Czechoslovakia went into production? Just, I beg you, let's not consider a series of 5-10 units.
    Apparently, the author does not know anything about the BT-2, BT-5, BT-7 tanks.
    2. All of these tanks were created before the war, S- in the year 66, and after reading the article it seems that S is the same age with them.
    3. And, the most interesting, if the article is about WHEEL-TRACKED tanks, then where does the PURE TRACKED S?
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 28 May 2013 17: 20
      +1
      "To solve this problem, many countries began to design wheeled-tracked tanks, simultaneously equipped with independent wheeled and tracked propellers. Prototypes of such equipment were created in France, Great Britain and Czechoslovakia. But the best, truly capable model, was created precisely Swedes. "
      read it three times, preferably four times, carefully considering each word and remove item 1 from your comment. Items 2 and 3 - the article is about Swedish KNOW-HOW in the world of armored vehicles, and not just about caterpillar wheels. Regards ..
  26. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 28 May 2013 00: 47
    +1
    With the mind, then it is, of course, with the mind. And original. Without exaggeration - works of engineering art ...
    But it is too complicated, and as a result, it is expensive both in production and in maintenance. But this is already a national feature, so to speak, "the main highlight" of Swedish technology. And not only the military ...

    "Volvo" is excellent, magnificent and inimitable! .. But not very cheap ...
  27. Fofan
    Fofan 28 May 2013 07: 47
    +1
    Quote: Denis
    Hard

    our even on the ISU did not think of such a "cheapening" fellow
  28. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 28 May 2013 17: 00
    0
    Swedes are not afraid to experiment!
  29. Alex
    Alex 29 May 2013 16: 26
    +2
    L-30 - initially completely non-viable design, as evidenced by the lack of samples brought to at least a tiny series. Christy made a real wheel-tracked tank, on the basis of the design of which BTs were created and mass-produced in the USSR (moreover, if BT-2 is a reproduction of a sample purchased from Christie, then BT-5 and BT-7 are already of their own design).
    The concept of the crazy Strv-103 is very, very dubious: to get a powerful reservation with a limited tank weight and high rate of fire to the detriment of firing on the go. I can hardly imagine shooting at maneuvering targets - it’s one thing to quickly and accurately rotate the turret and another to rotate the entire machine. As for the advantage in the forest - what difference does it make with a tower or without a tower, there’s nothing to do with the tank in the forest, unless you commit suicide by getting hit by an RPG at point-blank range.
    So the heading "made wisely" is clearly not about these samples.
  30. the47th
    the47th 31 May 2013 16: 37
    -1
    Well, what prevented the Swedes from hanging on the CV-90 AMOS a couple more tracks ?! Two guns are already available!
  31. olosors
    olosors 2 June 2013 19: 38
    0
    Developers thought the bullshit