A system to combat Ukrainian drones has already been created, but it will take time.

Russia is completing the creation of a unified information system for air defense control, which will become the main means of combating Ukrainian dronesRussian war correspondent Alexander Sladkov reported this following a meeting with Defense Minister Andrei Belousov.

The Russian army is completing the unification of all cells Defense into a single system that will accumulate data, analyze and respond to drone attacks or missiles Across Russia. According to Sladkov, a database is being created that collects data from all radars, etc. Then, based on this data and target analysis, the system will select the means of destruction.

All air defense cells are integrated into a single system. Because our units operate locally, often through interaction with each other and personal connections. A system has now been created that accumulates data. This system allows for a situational response to a sudden attack.

Another Russian military correspondent, Alexander Kots, added that the system is based on artificial intelligence, but it will take time to become fully operational. Meanwhile, Ukrainian drone strikes will only escalate. He added that this summer will definitely not be easy, but then a turning point will come, as troops are being equipped with detection and interception capabilities to support the new system, and new units and mobile groups are being created.

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[Proxima]

Maybe things will improve a little, but not dramatically... Palliative measures, in a word. It's like in aviation, where the best solution is tanks crushing enemy planes at their airfields.

[knn54]

The question is, are there enough resources to hit the targets? No AI can help in a situation like this (with blind spots).

[bayard]

We need tethered AWACS balloons in formation. That's right, formations. Mass-produced and capable of creating/ensuring a continuous radar field around the clock, i.e., working in shifts, preventing gaps in visibility, with mutual overlap. Costs can be reduced by scaling production, but the focus is on mass/serial production on a SUFFICIENT scale. To shoot down all and any number of aerial targets, they must be SEEED.

[credo]

Maybe something will improve, but not dramatically...

I recalled the recent scandal involving the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations, which was suddenly widely covered on our television after numerous floods, landslides, and other natural disasters that occurred in various regions of the country and are apparently still ongoing.

It turns out that the country has created a huge and unwieldy system that first sends all operational information to a single center in Moscow, where it is then processed, then sent to regional leadership, after which the regional leadership processes it and makes a decision on whether to transfer (or not) the information to the location of the suspected emergency.
The result is multi-billion dollar costs and disastrous results from this centralized system.

It is not known how this is organized in the Ministry of Defense, with the participation of AI, but it turned out that centralization is not always a good thing.

[Vitaly_pvo]

Quote: credo

but it turned out that centralization is not always good

In the air defense system, combat operations are conducted entirely decentralized. Only intelligence information, alerts, and requests are sent centrally.

that our units are engaged in local activities

Complete nonsense. This simply can't happen. Air defense systems, both military and site-based, have been operating within a single network since the 70s. Perhaps there's no automated data exchange with Navy ships or border guard radars, but that's a departmental quirk of senior officials unwilling to shoulder the extra burden of responsibility. But "manual mode" hasn't been abolished. Similarly, high-altitude and high-speed target blocking on border guard radars can be disarmed in a couple of minutes, given the command.

[Stas157]

Quote: credo

with the participation of AI

Do we even have this AI? If so, it's just a name. Because there's no hardware for it. It ranks in the 40th-60th place... That is, it's useless.

[WILL]

Yes, to destroy the Soviet air defense system, and then "joyfully" declare that it was created, but it takes time.
Most Russian citizens don't need statements, they need real data - enemy air targets should not hit our cities!

[helilelik]

The Soviet system wasn't designed for swarms of small planes. Not even for a single small plane.

[alexoff]

The Soviet system was designed to reduce hundreds of planes to radioactive ash when they appeared on the border. Technically, the Americans could have supplied the mujahideen with Cessna jets armed with bombs, rather than stringers, so that suicide bombers could fly into Central Asia, or even their own lances. But they were limited to Kalashnikovs and MANPADS.

[Serafim]

Why? The division medic, along with quartermaster Mustafa, if ready, were to "mount" a DShK machine gun on the roof of the water tower and fire at visible low-flying targets...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Yeah, right! Just pull up your pants and they'll be right off!
The ZU-23-2 or large-caliber machine gun on an anti-aircraft mount was only available in the regiment's commandant's platoon to protect the headquarters.
Everything else is specialized, for special units. For example, the Airborne Forces.

[nedgen]

Quote: helilelik

The Soviet system wasn't designed for swarms of small planes. Not even for a single small plane.

If you're referring to Rust's flight, then the air defenses detected it, launched an interceptor, which detected it but couldn't follow it due to the large difference in speeds, and the higher-ups in Moscow chose not to take responsibility, and because of this, the marked one fired most of them, although I think if Rust had been shot down, the marked one would have fired a lot of people again.

[akropin]

Everyone saw one small plane. There was no order. And then, whoever didn't give the order dismissed capable generals, apparently afraid of them. And then the USSR collapsed.

[Ulysses]

The Soviet air defense system let Rust through to Red Square. This became its greatest disgrace since its inception. And it was certainly not designed for today's realities.

[credo]

The Soviet air defense system let Rust through to Red Square. This became its greatest disgrace since its inception. And it was certainly not designed for today's realities.

According to the latest disclosures, this is not the Soviet system, and the soldiers and officers let Rust pass, while the hunchback ordered that the Fritz not be shot down, so that he could later accuse Defense Minister Sergeyev of professional incompetence and remove him from his post.
He was a great hindrance to him in the collapse of the country.

[rocket757]

How it really was...
Most are sure that THERE WAS NO ORDER TO SHOOT DOWN... and then there is only speculation, who, why, why???

[Seal]

There is a fundamental difference between the expression: “There was no order to shoot down” (No one dared to give the order to shoot down) and the expression “There was an order not to shoot down.”

[rocket757]

The fact... they didn't shoot it down and this gave rise to a lot of speculation.
It would be possible to land the plane en route, at an airfield... if we act harshly, no one will risk simply flying and hoping for a "miracle"...

[jaroff]

It was the Soviet system that missed Rust. An air defense system shouldn't depend on the decision of a senior official. The target must be destroyed.
Let's take an analogy: the USSR's land border. An attempt is underway to violate the border. Will the border patrol really wait for a decision from the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee?
Of course not. Even armed resistance.
And with the air defense after the Boeing of 1983, the system ceased to be an analogue of the land approach to protecting the state border

[nedgen]

Well, after the 60s, fighters were always scrambled when airspace was violated, so the airborne system was never equivalent to the ground situation. They couldn't have forced Rust to land because the minimum speed of the interceptors was much higher than Chesna's. He could have been shot down, but they couldn't have forced him to land. Only an Mi-24 could have forced him to land, but there was no time.

[rytik32]

Quote: nedgen

Rust could not have been forced to land because the minimum speed of the interceptors was much higher than Chesna's.

Not true. In 1988, Sommers was able to be sent to the Su-27.

Quote: nedgen

They could have shot it down, but they won't force it to land.

They could have doused it with kerosene, blown it away with afterburners... And then no commission would have found traces of weapons use on the wreckage!

Rust had to be shot down. What if he was flying with an atomic bomb?

[Prometey]

Quote: rytik32

Rust had to be shot down. What if he was flying with an atomic bomb?

Then it would be with an atomic grenade, or rather.

[Eug]

I heard an option—using a wake-turbine jet, like what happened to Gagarin and Seregin's plane. But no one wanted to get into trouble. And was that even realistic? Rust was flying very low, after all.

[alexoff]

If dozens of Rusts had been launched from the West against Soviet oil refineries, the USSR would have destroyed the launch sites, along with the factories where these ash-cannons were assembled. Rust was detected and tracked; it was the first single target, not the hundred-thousandth drone.

[rocket757]

Russia is completing the creation of a unified air defense control information system.

CONTROL and prompt response to air attack threats... just what the doctor ordered.
Let's see how it works in reality...

[Alexey Lantukh]

Let's see how it works in reality...

However, regarding drones... The success rate will increase, but obviously not 100%. And what about missiles, including cruise missiles?

[tsvetahaki]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

The Russian army is completing the integration of all air defense cells into a single system that will accumulate data, analyze, and respond to drone or missile attacks on Russia.

This is a taboo question. Otherwise, you could end up making up a lot of things.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Air defense specialists say the Flamingo missile is an easy target. It's highly visible, not particularly fast or smart, and should be shot down.

[nedgen]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Air defense specialists say the Flamingo missile is an easy target. It's highly visible, not particularly fast or smart, and should be shot down.

In general, you are right, BUT only if the launchers do not know the blind spots in the radar field, as well as where there are no air defense systems, but the Ukrainians know this thanks to their overseas friends.

[rytik32]

About a year ago, the flamingo was flying at an altitude of 500 m. Now it is much lower.

[tsvetahaki]

Besides the home-grown Flamingo, there are many things in the world that are less accessible to our air defense.
The same JSM mentioned here, all sorts of storm shadows and tomahawks.
Flamingo – you have to start somewhere, not just raise the stakes right away. It's been a while since we started small, with first aid kits, I remember...

[rocket757]

Let's wait and see how effectively it works...
So, it seems that the technology of the airspace control process is complex, but... modern automation systems have advanced far beyond what was before... we need to correctly and wisely use everything that already exists!

[Evgeny64]

The missile situation is fine now; air defense is geared toward them, especially since there aren't many of them on the outskirts. The problem is with small, slow-moving UAVs. Not only are they difficult to detect, but the missiles are also several times more expensive than the aircraft themselves, and the mobile task forces don't receive operational information, so they don't have time to move to the necessary areas.

[yuriy55]

It certainly won't be easy in the summer, but then a turning point will come.

Only if there are broken limbs... And some electoral nonsense to boot...

[Adrey]

Not even 5 years have passed... and what they created there is a big question.

[matwey]

Not even 5 years have passed... and what they created there is a big question.

Perhaps we are talking about the Citadel complex.
https://rg.ru/2026/05/21/poiavilos-video-primeneniia-novogo-30-mm-zenitnogo-artillerijskogo-kompleksa.html

[bug120560]

Andrey, just think about it: what can be achieved by adopting the "no change" principle when it comes to new weapons? Are they creating a centralized analytical database? I wonder how this database could actually help in detecting and destroying UAVs, given that drones are either fought with SAMs equipped with radars and expensive missiles, or with mobile task forces equipped with the shooter's senses (hear/see—good) and a dual-link PKM, or at best with a night vision scope?

[Adrey]

Quote: bug120560

Andrey, well, judge for yourself.

Yes, I understand everything perfectly well, that's why I doubt it. It looks more like

Quote: andranick

War correspondents shouldn't voice this. It seems they were tasked with "leaking information" and "creating a wave" to calm the public amid the constant UkrUAV attacks.

Even more so these War correspondents, such war correspondents...

[shm_kv]

What prevented you from doing this three years ago, when the first serious "hits" occurred? Was it absolutely necessary to wait until the enemy inflicted critical damage on defense plants and the economy as a whole?
Moreover, this "unified information system" alone is clearly insufficient. Incursions will still occur; today, the enemy is launching hundreds of UAVs, and in a few months, they'll be able to launch thousands. The entire NATO industry relies on it. For example, critical installations at oil refineries need to be protected with concrete shelters; otherwise, repairs are pointless.

[andranick]

Whether such a system exists or not, whether it will be implemented or not, is unknown. It's not for military correspondents to voice such things. It seems they were tasked with "leaking the information" and "creating a wave" to calm the public amid the constant attacks by UkrUAVs.

[NakedMan]

Well, when the same war correspondents write about how bad everything is, who gave them the task?
Of course, it's hard to predict what will happen in advance, even for war correspondents. Although it seems the government can no longer ignore the threat and will have to act.

[WapentakeLokki]

You (apparently) are making a direct reference to Khoja Nasreddin (with his donkey, the Koran, and the padishah) and which of them promised what in ten (or in this case, five) years... it doesn't matter, but... the cunning Nasreddin ALREADY raised quite a lot of money back then...

[andranick]

Quote: WapentakeLokki

You (apparently) are making a direct reference to Khoja Nasreddin (with his donkey, Koran, and padishah)

No. I'm talking about disinformation, but who is it aimed at? It's unlikely to be the enemy; they have high-quality intelligence and couldn't care less about Kots and Sladkov. But in the Russian blogosphere, they're fairly well-known names.

[Zoer]

It was my 5th year. But more time was needed.
Did I understand everything correctly?

[DOR2]

"Such questions, my dear friend, cannot be decided lightly. We need to consult with our comrades..."
Everything is classic

[nedgen]

Quote: DOR2

"Such questions, my dear friend, cannot be decided lightly. We need to consult with our comrades..."
Everything is classic

And most likely with comrades overseas, otherwise they might say NO!!! And it's also no way to disagree because: what if they confiscate the money or, God forbid, the elite real estate.

[alexoff]

Well, in a couple of years, a nationwide missile defense system will be on its way; we'll just have to be a little patient...

[tsvetahaki]

Quote: Zoer

It was my 5th year. But more time was needed.
Did I understand everything correctly?

The Russian army is completing the integration of all air defense cells into a single system that will accumulate data, analyze, and respond to drone or missile attacks on Russia.

You got it right. The author's sentence is simply incomplete—he should have written it more honestly: "By the middle of the fifth year of the Central Military District, the Russian Army completes..."

[Zoer]

Quote from tsvetahaki

"By the middle of the fifth year of the Central Military District, the Russian army will complete..."

Is the capture of Kyiv completed?

[nedgen]

Quote: Zoer

Quote from tsvetahaki

"By the middle of the fifth year of the Central Military District, the Russian army will complete..."

Is the capture of Kyiv completed?

They're quickly finishing the document on Russia's capitulation. 😁

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Before the start of the Second World War, the enemy only had reconnaissance drones and large slow-moving aircraft like the Bayraktar.
The mass of drones that we are seeing now is a product of the last five or six years.
So no wonder.

[Zoer]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

So no wonder.

It's amazing that they completely screwed up after preparing for 2022 for eight years, from 2014. Now, of course, even in the fifth year, it's "nothing" surprising. Keep smiling and waving.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

You take on too much, be careful not to get cocky.
Maybe someone in the world has already learned this? Don't be shy, share examples. You're a genius at analytics.

[Zoer]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

You take on too much, be careful not to get cocky.

Were we drinking to brotherhood? Or were you already getting drunk with the mirror?
You need to have a snack, dear sir.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Stupefaction in attack is a well-known phenomenon, and you experienced it in excess.
And only on this forum do people get offended by the terms "you" and "you"; here people are ready to communicate with both enemies and bots using the terms "you".
It's a strange fact, like naval or air force shoulder straps, it's as if you're communicating with the other world. Why is that?

[Zoer]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Stupefaction in attack, a well-known phenomenon

Sober up, write. Only to the point, not a stream of altered consciousness.

[nedgen]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Before the start of the Second World War, the enemy only had reconnaissance drones and large slow-moving aircraft like the Bayraktar.
The mass of drones that we are seeing now is a product of the last five or six years.
So no wonder.

Isn't that surprising? It's actually quite surprising HOW Ukraine got its acoustic UAV detection system based on cell phone towers working in just the second year, while Russia hasn't had a thing for five years now? And bridges and tunnels are still standing, while the Ukrainians are committing genocide on the roads to Crimea, razing oil refineries, and gradually knocking out long-range air defense systems and radars. It's also NOT surprising that in the fifth year of the SVO there is still NO unified air defense system. 😡

[alexoff]

A wave of drones that struck oil refineries and caused a significant crisis for the country occurred in 2019. The Houthis launched them against Saudi Arabia, knocking out half of its oil production in a matter of hours. Two days later, a certain Vladimir Putin proposed that Saudi Arabia purchase Russian air defense systems to protect the country from attacks. No one thought that something similar could happen to us; we didn't even notice.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

I strongly doubt that the situation will change for the better.
On the other side, decisions are made and implemented faster.

[Alexey Lantukh]

I strongly doubt that the situation will change for the better.

However, regarding drones... The success rate will increase, but obviously not 100%. And what about missiles, including cruise missiles?
And, it would be radically better, if only Ukraine backed down on our terms. That doesn't seem likely anytime soon. Of course, if Russia uses tactical nuclear weapons, that's possible.

[DOR2]

Just not tactical nuclear weapons in the field, like a hazelnut-palm on 3,14zde, but specifically and precisely 250-300 simultaneous thermonuclear strikes at key points of the Judeo-Banderites.

[Zoer]

Quote: DOR2

Just not tactical nuclear weapons in the field, like a hazelnut-palm on 3,14zde, but specifically and precisely 250-300 simultaneous thermonuclear strikes at key points of the Judeo-Banderites.

NATO's next step will be to hand over tactical nuclear weapons to the Judeo-Banderites...
Until our elites change to nationally oriented ones, we will never win this war. It will most likely end in a deal that will be against us.

[Alexey Lantukh]

NATO's next step will be to hand over tactical nuclear weapons to the Judeo-Banderites...

You're once again unleashing your scare tactic. It's precisely the European lobby in the US that will block the transfer. Because then other nuclear-armed countries will start transferring their nukes to others. For example, Russia to Iran. And Iran is Israel's mortal enemy. And so on.

Until our elites change to nationally oriented ones, we will never win this war.

Elite change doesn't happen quickly. And elite change doesn't necessarily mean a radical shift in weapons and armed forces. And who's to say the new elites aren't in favor of using tactical nuclear weapons on Ukraine, or even on Europe?

[Zoer]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

You're once again unleashing your scare tactic. It's precisely the European lobby in the US that will block the program.

Once again you are dancing on the same rake...
It started with tanks and armored personnel carriers—no, they won't hand it over... Now they're handing over ballistic missiles and technology in full swing. And you're still just scaremongering. Yeah...

[Zoer]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

Elite change does not happen quickly.

Hmm, in 1917 it was fast in my opinion.

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

And who said that the new elites are not in favor of striking Ukraine, or even Europe, with tactical nuclear weapons?

As for those who are already worried, let the gay Europeans worry. Maybe they'll come around sometime. But it's absolutely certain that, under our current elites, Westerners have absolutely nothing to fear.

[Zoer]

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

I strongly doubt that the situation will change for the better.
On the other side, decisions are made and implemented faster.

Plus, the EU's economic and production potential is incomparably greater than ours.

[Ivan№One]

This was told Russian war correspondent Alexander Sladkov

And why was this done?
Well, it's clear that they probably told him to tell, but for what purpose? Is this some kind of disinformation for the enemies?

[Adrey]

Quote: Ivan№One

Is this some kind of disinformation from enemies?

This is for my electorate. To reduce the amount of grumbling in their kitchens and on the internet.

[andranick]

They were no less grumbling, but rightly delighted.

[phrases]

It all fits into the well-known saying again: "God endured, and so did you," and its continuation: "There's no money, but you hang in there, artificial intelligence is your oyster." It's not even interesting to know what the higher-ups were doing before this, other than giving long speeches.

[DOR2]

Soviet nuclear physicists and engineers invented a tool to combat this kind of nonsense. They invented it for serious, intelligent people. You can't even give a glass dick to idiots.

[snow mountain]

You can't even give a glass dick to fools.

It will definitely break!

[Volunteer Marek]

...which will accumulate data, analyze it, and respond to drone or missile attacks... if this accumulation, analysis, and response takes longer than "instantaneous," then it's just another embezzlement and an attempt to sweeten the pill.

[Same lech]

Time is of the essence...and this is in the fifth year of the war.
There is no end in sight to this.

[alexoff]

I hope it’s not Chemezov and Manturov who are developing this?

[sergey4791]

What did you expect? A capitalist state isn't about long-term planning, it's about making money here and now.

[Vladimir M]

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to recreate the country's air defense system.
However, the country's air defense and the army's air defense, although similar, have different tasks.

[SergeySmirnov3663]

One great air defense specialist told another great air defense specialist that it would be under the control of another Great Air Defense Specialist - artificial intelligence.
I would like to believe!

[Zheka111]

I forgot to say "There are no analogs to taxes in the world."

The most effective air defense is a destroyed enemy.
Unfortunately, we haven't yet reached the level of the end of the Second World War, when there were three air defense rings and a continuous radar field around Crimea – that's what was truly effective.
And all these stories about a unified information system, a data bank - are nothing more than a fig leaf that covers up the shame, namely the lack of air defense forces and resources, because it is "expensive"

[Al manah]

What the hell is this system? Machine gunner. at night Shooting at a drone - is this a system?! It's a sham!

[nedgen]

Quote: Al Manah

What the hell is this system? Machine gunner. at night Shooting at a drone - is this a system?! It's a sham!

And very often even without a night sight. That is, completely at random.

[bbb]

All that remains is to wait a little bit...

[nedgen]

Quote: bbb

All that remains is to wait a little bit...

How many years will this little bit take? A couple of years, or maybe until 2030?

[gmss]

Quote: credo

This is not the Soviet system, and the soldiers and officers let Rust pass, but the hunchback ordered not to shoot down the Fritz, in order to then accuse Defense Minister Sergeyev of professional incompetence and remove from office

what?

[Andrey Petrov]

What AI??? We don't have a single AI of our own in Russia. Are they based on foreign ones?

[vvnab]

Are you talking about LLMs like Deepseek or ChatGPT? Why do air defense systems need large language models? To write reports to the command?
We're talking about some kind of specialized neural network. It's entirely possible to create something like that. We have the experience and the specialists. Don't forget that Russia was a pioneer in image recognition using this technology.

[snow mountain]

Quote: Stas157

Because there is no hardware for it.

All this can be bought in China. No problem.

[Aleksandr_68]

More idiocy... Fighting drones is like fighting bullets. Until we learn to fight satellites, we'll be waving sabers through the air.

[Tantalum]

So, vote as you should, and you'll be fine. If not, it's your own fault. May St. AI help us.
By the way, will AI be consecrated?

[Glagol1]

Nonsense. As long as 300-400 are flying a day, something might work. But when 3-4 thousand are flying a day, no system will be able to cope. Because there aren't enough weapons. More window dressing. And a waste of budgets.

[Alexander_K]

An attack by numerous drones, as in this video: https://m.vkvideo.ru/video-211485340_456239170 , along with anti-radar missiles, controlled by high-altitude reconnaissance UAVs, using electronic warfare UAVs, bypassing or preemptively destroying air defense zones, is very difficult to repel. I have a hard time imagining how Moscow's analytical system, coupled with AI, could organize such an air defense. Even if they were able to install multiple radars, even on balloons, they would all be destroyed as a matter of priority. Acoustic detectors can't detect high-altitude drones, and evolution continues: jammers or quiet electric motors will be installed. Mobile task forces, in addition to being difficult to detect and target, have a small coverage radius and a low engagement altitude. Furthermore, the video clearly demonstrates the ineffectiveness of shooting at maneuvering drones. What's needed here isn't just a target analysis and distribution system, although that's also necessary, but a weapon capable of taking out the entire swarm without costing as much as an aircraft. Ideally, this would be a fast but inexpensive UAV with a machine gun and possibly a radar, plus an autonomous, homing one. And also autonomous, unmanned mobile task forces. Placing these turrets wherever possible would be effective.
https://m.my.mail.ru/mail/nakhab1806/video/6/23.html

[Alexander_K]

Extra charges:
https://m.vk.com/video-98421875_456240301
Article: https://topcor.ru/41765-rossijskij-vpk-zapozdal-s-razrabotkoj-avtomaticheskih-pulemetnyh-turelej.html
Developments from the other side:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5B2o4bauyLk&t