All that remains of BZHRK. Station "Far" and PPD

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Not so long ago, from the mouth of the deputy. Defense Minister Yuri Borisov sounded that MIT had begun development work on the creation of a new generation of railway missile systems.

It would seem that this is what many have been waiting for. The beginning of the revival of the legendary rocket trains. After all, they were on duty, in the period from 1987 to 2005 year. And this means for the new generation of rocket trains there was a tremendous backlog, ready infrastructure.
And so let's see what remains of this infrastructure and in what condition it is.
The main duty station of BZhRK is the station "Dalnyaya" 10 of the Strategic Missile Forces division in the Kostroma region.

All that remains of BZHRK. Station "Far" and PPD

at the entrance we will meet hedgehogs



Left in the distance is the TPU (technical control panel), in the center is the wagon depot and a small repair garage behind it.



As you can see the rails are almost everywhere dismantled.



The main building of the base and the heart of the whole complex.
One of two things in the USSR, in which the launch canister could be lifted from the car into a vertical position for routine maintenance. 2010 year



Communication service complex



Inside the workshop, inspection pit



Inside one of the rooms. Once the equipment was housed here, and now - the devastation ...



Depot



Depot Exploded floors from torn rails.



Pumping station



Headquarters building



Inside the headquarters



Dismantling is in full swing


It is a pity that we have lost so powerful and unique weaponwhose worthy analogues still do not exist in the world and the necessary infrastructure for its maintenance. Currently, the base is sold into private hands for 45 million rubles (the price of one elite apartment in Moscow), the purpose of the sale is to cut metal and construction waste. The country that has created all this is no longer 20 years old, and its legacy is still being destroyed. And the saddest thing is that all this happens not in the dashing 90, but in the well-fed 2005-2013, with multi-billion rearmament programs. The question is who is to blame? The answer is obvious.

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  1. +15
    27 May 2013 06: 26
    It was possible without the name of the object ... This situation is everywhere.
    1. Dragonmu
      +11
      27 May 2013 11: 22
      The article is like crying opps. "And the saddest thing is that all this is not happening in the dashing 90s, but in the well-fed 2005-2013, with multibillion-dollar rearmament programs. Who is to blame for this? The answer is obvious."
      As can be seen from the document, everything was sawn and stolen in the 90s, and now it’s just empty ruins. Therefore, it is obvious that new trains (if they exist) will need new infrastructure, how much it is advisable to restore this base is not clear who and when sold is also not clear. In short, my personal opinion, the meaning of the article is to throw a stone at the government, but carefully and subtly. Just a conclusion is not related in meaning to the rest of the article.
      1. +4
        27 May 2013 12: 08
        Quote: DragonMu
        The article is like crying opps. "And the saddest thing is that this all happens not in the dashing 90s, but in the well-fed 2005-2013

        looters here and there .... freebie, only Vissarionych managed to cope with these plunders of national property
      2. ozs
        ozs
        +7
        27 May 2013 12: 09
        Well no, until 2006 the base was in good condition. And she was brought to such a state over the past seven years.
      3. ozs
        ozs
        +5
        27 May 2013 12: 42
        In short, my personal opinion, the meaning of the article is to throw a stone at the government, but carefully and subtly. Just a conclusion is not related in meaning to the rest of the article.
        And who is to blame for this, me or you or Vasya Pupkin? There are people who are responsible for this and receive money for their work. These people are sitting in the government, if they brought it all to such a state, it means it’s to blame for this, the answer is obvious to me.
        Just the same, the only conclusion that could come after what he saw. Or there must be a conclusion, that's what a bad ebn brought to this state, and the current white and fluffy ebn, of course, has done a lot of things, but this all happens in our time.
        And it is asked why the heck to spend billions, even if they already can’t save what they’ve already built.
        1. -2
          27 May 2013 23: 58
          Quote: ozs
          And who is to blame for this, me or you or Vasya Pupkin?

          It is strange that this article came out now when the question arose about the restoration of the complex, and not eleven years ago, when all this was destroyed! Anti-Russian PR.
      4. 0
        28 May 2013 01: 22
        Quote: DragonMu
        Therefore, it is obvious that new trains (if they exist) will need new infrastructure, how much it is advisable to restore this base is not clear who and when sold is also not clear.


        Of course, no one will restore this lost infrastructure (very expensive), but will create a new one and nobody will advertise it. And most likely there will be several such points and disguised as inconspicuous railway nodes.
        An article with donkey ears. I call such articles "cheap articles or scam articles".
        Oh, how the liberals and worse than that, the patriots want to blame the dashing nineties on those who are now fixing their own jambs. This is the usual meanness and complete lack of conscience. Not ashamed? Maybe it's enough to be scum? Do not interfere with others to recreate what such as ... "picks" in the nose (in the ass) in the nineties pumped.
    2. +2
      27 May 2013 17: 18
      Does this happen - we are told that the BZHRK complex will be reborn, orders to start work have been given, but in fact, “the horse did not roll”? What again, big words for raising the rating and popularity ?! Words with deeds diverge. It is necessary to introduce responsibility for unfounded promises - promised - do it if you could not then farewell.
      1. +1
        27 May 2013 17: 44
        And where does the old base? Before you ring out. Do you know for sure that work is not being carried out, new locations are not being selected?
        1. ozs
          ozs
          +3
          27 May 2013 18: 22
          Do you know for sure that work is being carried out and new locations are being selected? This short note shows the real situation of the case, which incidentally occurred over the past five to seven years.
          1. Atlon
            0
            27 May 2013 23: 31
            Quote: ozs
            This short note shows the real situation of the case, which incidentally occurred over the past five to seven years.

            This article shows the lies that you are trying to PR here! Just get it right before spraying saliva. The photos are genuine. laughing Lies the presentation itself, and the author’s conclusions.
        2. +1
          27 May 2013 22: 16
          why new then? Why are old bad? Or do we have nowhere to put money?
          1. Atlon
            +1
            27 May 2013 23: 55
            Quote: old man54
            why new then? Why are old bad? Or do we have nowhere to put money?

            What car do you have? I doubt that the VAZ-2101, or Moskvich 412. And what were bad? Or have you got nowhere to go?
      2. djon3volta
        -2
        27 May 2013 18: 41
        Quote from astra
        they tell us that the BZHRK complex will revive, orders to start work have been given, but in fact, “the horse didn’t lie around”? What again, big words for raising the rating and popularity ?!

        there are old agreements signed by Yeltsin that need to be implemented, and they are being implemented so that there is no unnecessary hype. and there are new tasks and orders where there is no prohibition to build NEW BZHRK.
        Is there an international law that the BZHRK can’t be built in Russia? There is no such law. So you can build it.
        the same thing with missiles, the fact that it was decided to saw the majority signed in the 90s as well as a piece of paper on the screen, they fulfill the obligations, who signed them in the 90s everyone also knows. But laws or treaties that Russia can’t build this - there are no such laws. It will be necessary to build a death star, because there are no international laws that it is forbidden to build a death star.
        nuclear weapons are forbidden to be placed in outer space, so no one places them there!
      3. Atlon
        0
        27 May 2013 23: 27
        Quote from astra
        It is necessary to introduce responsibility for unfounded promises - promised - do it if you could not then farewell.

        And also introduce responsibility for such articles and provocative throws.

        seed:
        Not so long ago, from the mouth of the deputy. Defense Minister Yuri Borisov sounded that MIT had begun development work on the creation of a new generation of railway missile systems.


        "Article"
        And so let's see what remains of this infrastructure and in what condition it is.
        The main duty station of BZhRK is the station "Dalnyaya" 10 of the Strategic Missile Forces division in the Kostroma region.


        Conclusions:
        The country that created all this has been gone for over 20 years, and its legacy is still being destroyed. And the saddest thing is that all this is happening not in the dashing 90s, but in well-fed 2005-2013, with multi-billion dollar rearmament programs. The question is, who is to blame? The answer is obvious.


        Moreover, the document in the last photo completely compromises both the author and his conclusions!
        Let's start with the fact that it is dated 1992-94 (judging by the references to government decrees), and this is at least 20 (!) Years before today, so we cannot talk about "well-fed 2005-2013", and the second is that the document is not about BZHRK at all! For the BZHRK simply does not HAVE a silo (silo launcher). laughing

        The article is not about anything. All venture for the sake of this phrase: "The question is who is to blame for this? The answer is obvious."
        I have a counter question: "Who needs such articles? The answer is obvious." wink
    3. +2
      27 May 2013 18: 52
      Quote: smel
      It was possible without the name of the object

      You read the article, read the comments and are horrified by the garbage that is happening here. The article is complete, moreover, definitely minus “-“ - “-“. I want to inform you that with all the regrets, such a wonderful complex as the BZHRK, after all, SERVED ITS TIME, IS NOT MORE PROSPECTS IN IT! Yes, there was a good complex, but the whole thing came out, the time is not right! Someone says that this is the only complex that can not be traced, HA! Yes, quit. First: his companions will calculate at a time! Second: to create a network of informers, in the conditions of today's democracy, a couple of trifles, well, five, well, ten trains, but they will still figure out how to do it. And how much does it take to use and protect it, driving around the country? Bullshit. It does not make sense to restore it even with poplars. It’s better to cut the Boreev or, in extreme cases, rearm the Typhoons. Spit in the face to the strategist who will tell you that a submarine lying on the ground at a depth in its territorial waters is easier to spot, it is down below the baseboard fool fool fool.
      And now a personal opinion about what you need to have! And first, you must have at least all 50 missiles of the Voevoda type in your mines, with all the breathing and shaving, such sloppy strategists! And a warning system for missile attack SPRN as part of satellites and horizontal radars. Any hypersonic missile needs time, well, at least let 5 minutes, in order to take off and get to the missile mines, During this time, the SPRN will detect them for any reason and the Voivode will take off for a RESPONSE-BATTLE IMPACT! ...... In general, such logical and obvious things, even as inconvenient to write in VO.
      Z.Y. The author is most likely a troll, offended by Putin and trying to take revenge by shoving his article, influencing the sick corns of the audience of Military Review, the Lord wake up and think again?! ....
  2. +1
    27 May 2013 06: 40
    The question is, who is to blame?

    The question is - what to do?
    1. +10
      27 May 2013 06: 59
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      To revive everything again !!!
      1. +4
        27 May 2013 09: 53
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        To revive everything again !!!

        What will be done in a new, modern version. I am quite sure of that. Since new trains, new TPKs, new fillings, new cars, then, accordingly, talking about outdated equipment for maintenance does not always make sense. After all, we do not see and are silent when the army dismantles the old, to replace it with a new one.
      2. 0
        27 May 2013 12: 15
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        The question is - what to do?

        to go along the western path, to accustom to thought, I am a taxpayer and all this is built on my money ..... otherwise, now the principle reigns, everything is collective farm, everything is mine
        1. 0
          28 May 2013 00: 03
          Quote: hert
          to go along the western path, to accustom to thought, I am a taxpayer and all this is built on my money ..... otherwise, now the principle reigns, everything is collective farm, everything is mine

          Decided to help foreign intelligence? Wait for the guys from the FSB to visit.
    2. +1
      27 May 2013 09: 30
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKIIIIIIII
    3. Atlon
      0
      27 May 2013 23: 35
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      Expose the author of the text! Speaking in Albanian: author, drink yadu! And kill yourself!
  3. User777
    +3
    27 May 2013 06: 41
    It is sad.
    1. +5
      27 May 2013 07: 19
      Quote: User777
      It is sad.

      Unfortunately, this has become familiar ..
  4. +3
    27 May 2013 06: 42
    A sad sight ...
    But the main advantage of the BZHRK is secrecy, maybe something less noticeable should be equipped or already equipped?
    And then they are deployed in one place, this only in a hangover upper limb (you could not even call your head) could come
    1. adg76
      0
      27 May 2013 09: 52
      It is impossible to repair !!!!!! Only the construction in a new place, as hidden as possible. This provision of the part is disclosed and poses a threat to personnel and military personnel in case of conflict
      1. ozs
        ozs
        +1
        27 May 2013 12: 35
        According to your logic, Votkinsk also needs to destroy all mines, since a probable enemy knows about them and they are uncovered. So it turns out?
        Even if this complex of structures is no longer needed, although our government does not need anything, then still it was not necessary to do this.
        1. Atlon
          -1
          27 May 2013 23: 38
          Quote: ozs
          Even if this complex of structures is no longer needed, although our government does not need anything, then still it was not necessary to do this.

          But as? Cover with a crystal sarcophagus? Make a museum? To carry tourists? And then, 80% of all the devastation was made by local residents! One had only to remove the protection ... Especially in the 90s.
  5. +5
    27 May 2013 06: 45
    It would be nice to find out who the owners of this Continent CJSC are. I think this Continent is not far from MO.
    1. +1
      27 May 2013 17: 15
      Most likely, in London you need to look for them
  6. +9
    27 May 2013 06: 57
    It’s cheaper to restore than to keep working indefinitely.
    Restore and rebuild with the new technologies, do not worry.
  7. +6
    27 May 2013 07: 05
    Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!
    1. diesel
      0
      27 May 2013 07: 22
      What to do and who is to blame?
      1. +2
        27 May 2013 07: 30
        to look for guilty among officials is the same as looking for a black cat in a dark room !!! All ordinary people understand that Serdyukov is to blame, but the authorities do not see this.
        1. Atlon
          0
          27 May 2013 23: 40
          Quote: avant-garde
          All ordinary people understand that Serdyukov is to blame, but the authorities do not see this.

          Well, of course ... At the same time, such an understanding "common people" stole what was no longer protected and handed it over for scrap! Serdyukov, of course, is to blame, or who was there before him? Because it was necessary to rip off the hands of the "common people", the plunderer of socialist property!
    2. +4
      27 May 2013 09: 26
      Quote: avant-garde
      Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!

      Roads are our tactical weapon
      Fools are strategic.
    3. +1
      27 May 2013 10: 19
      Quote: avant-garde
      there was the first of two troubles of Russia!

      ... and made the second :(
    4. +2
      27 May 2013 11: 30
      Quote: avant-garde
      Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!



      "It is not true that there are two troubles in Russia - fools and roads. In Russia, there is ONE trouble — idiots."
  8. Captain Vrungel
    +16
    27 May 2013 07: 20
    Our countries are amazing and tenacious. For 22 years we have been breaking up and plundering (I mean my Ukraine) and ... it turns out that we are prospering. How do we exist? Unclear. Trade and construction plus office plankton. The granary, rich in black soil, found itself in the zone of risky farming. Arabs and Israel plus half of Africa, half of Latin America, the Middle and Far East, vegetables and fruits in Ukraine. From onions and potatoes to apples and pears. We live happily, happily. We build high-rise buildings from concrete and drywall, preliminarily setting fire to and destroying everything in our chosen place, up to historical values, losing face and color of the city (second-hand sunny Odessa). When mixing from one city to another, we see a "colorful" picture of the devastation of agriculture, as in the photo in the article, dozens of abandoned airfields and a huge number of military towns. As in the article. "Currently sold to private hands." Yes, our states are completely given over to private hands. Someone is lucky, there is an owner, someone is not. What have we built? Rather, How we were built.
  9. 0
    27 May 2013 07: 22
    O B AND D N O!
    But this is how we build, destroy, build and live.
  10. +5
    27 May 2013 07: 48
    As far as I remember, the passage of the BZHRK requires preparation, and most importantly, the agreed schedules for the passage of trains. This item will be the most difficult. Railway was first turned into Russian Railways, then they began to bite off pieces. Private traders will put sticks in the wheels, it’s easier for them to cut money than to think.
    1. +1
      27 May 2013 10: 04
      Special trains still run on the train, and the passage schedules are most necessary for the customer. For the BZHRK (God forbid that they revived), the owner of the infrastructure (RZD) certainly will not fix any obstacles. On the Russian Railways even special. the department (1st) has not been reformed, it still functions. By the way, the state has a controlling stake in Russian Railways.
  11. YaRusich
    +1
    27 May 2013 08: 59
    Quote: ImPerts
    As far as I remember, the passage of the BZHRK requires preparation, and most importantly, the agreed schedules for the passage of trains. This item will be the most difficult. Railway was first turned into Russian Railways, then they began to bite off pieces. Private traders will put sticks in the wheels, it’s easier for them to cut money than to think.

    the old complex was not so invisible because with a weight of more than 100 tons, it could only walk on special railway lines (reinforced) and were rigidly tied to maintenance points.

    It seems that in the new version, the weight is reduced (due to the new rocket) and the binding will not be so tight. That will give greater opportunities for the use of civil railway. God give it.

    PS. About scalpels and BZHRK there was a detailed article on VO. http://topwar.ru/24562-raketnye-poezda-starye-i-novye.html
    1. +2
      27 May 2013 10: 15
      100 tons is the weight of one car with a rocket, it is both longer and on eight (or six) axles, instead of 4 for a regular ref. With a certain knowledge, it is very simple to track this from space, a "native" M62 diesel locomotive was attached to each train, despite the fact that the train was transported through sections by electric locomotives serving this section. By the nature of their work, I saw them in the 80s, the security measures at the stations are unprecedented
    2. 0
      27 May 2013 10: 56
      Quote: YaRusich
      and most importantly - agreed schedules for the passage of trains.

      It bothers me more.
  12. optimist
    0
    27 May 2013 09: 58
    Another hello putinoidam! Your bastard guru faithfully follows Washington's instructions! BZHRK-the only thing that could really break ... opu Americans. And this whole chatter about recovery is nothing more than a chatter. Even if there is a real recovery, how long will it take? There is a very persistent feeling that a peaceful life in Russia will end very, very soon ...
    1. Nitup
      +1
      27 May 2013 10: 17
      And you are, indeed, an optimist.
      1. optimist
        +1
        27 May 2013 10: 35
        I will tell you a military secret: I am a realist !!! laughing
      2. Atlon
        +1
        27 May 2013 23: 44
        Quote: Nitup
        And you are, indeed, an optimist.

        He's just a MIRACLE ... Never mind.
    2. 0
      27 May 2013 10: 18
      do not wait ... Optimists Mlyn
      1. optimist
        +1
        27 May 2013 10: 36
        Tell in this case, what did you wait for? Streams piz..zha from zomboyaschik?
        1. +6
          27 May 2013 16: 00
          I’ll tell you one simple thing - most (in my opinion, percent of 90) finished back in 90's or the beginning of 2000's. By his own example - in 2000, he came to Omsk. So, at this point, Saturn, Flight, Aggregate Plant or have already finished, or they were at the very end of the path - that is, the bankruptcy procedure and then according to the scheme. At the same time, the infrastructure has already been destroyed, there are no orders and so on. Plus finished off the situation with taxes, because all enterprises changed their form of ownership to private, there was no investment in infrastructure and funds. And to stop this process at that time was almost impossible. And the situation with Izhmash is all the songs from the same opera. It’s just that the opera is bigger and the songs are longer - so I don’t need to explain who started it all. A low bow and an anchor in the ass to the gentlemen of the young reformers am
        2. Atlon
          0
          27 May 2013 23: 46
          Quote: optimist
          Tell in this case, what did you wait for?

          To date, your appearance and foul-smelling brown flesh from your mouth ... wink
    3. AK-47
      +1
      27 May 2013 10: 22
      Quote: optimist
      ... faithfully complies with Washington's directions!

      I believe that such decisions are made after a comprehensive study, taking into account economic, political, realities. The limited funds of the military budget should be used with the greatest effect mainly in promising types of weapons.
    4. +2
      27 May 2013 11: 01
      The replies of the "optimist" do not differ in meaning from those of Nemtsov, Alekseeva and the like. It's bad, polymers are about ... wounds.
      1. optimist
        +2
        27 May 2013 11: 11
        I will tell you the second military secret: I hate all of the individuals listed above, just as I hate the putler and his minions. Moreover, I am sure that they all fell out from under one "tail". Most importantly, you often watch federal channels on TV and life will be better and more beautiful !!!
        1. -2
          27 May 2013 13: 17
          In order to be better, more beautiful and more often, I have a wife. TV channels me for
          Quote: optimist
          watch federal channels on TV more often and life will be better and more beautiful !!!

          Not needed.
        2. +2
          27 May 2013 22: 35
          However, you sing the same "song" with them. Why?
        3. Atlon
          +2
          27 May 2013 23: 50
          Quote: optimist
          I hate the same way as the putler

          What is a putler? what

          Quote: optimist
          You, most importantly, often watch federal channels on TV and life will be better and more beautiful !!!

          Thank you, I will follow your advice! Although, life is already quite beautiful! By the way, judging by your mental level and vocabulary, you only watch "House 2" on TNT and "Comedy Club" on STS. And your life is getting worse and worse! laughing
    5. +5
      27 May 2013 16: 48
      Yeah. 3 divisions 12 regiments 36 PU. Well straight torn to shreds. For reference: 1 Shark (nuclear submarine of project 941) carried 20 launchers. 955 project carries 16 launchers.

      The performance characteristics of the "Molodtsa" and the R-39 are comparable. But there is a nuance: "Well done" was developed and produced in Ukraine. Add something else or it is already clear that the railway complex in such a has no prospects for Russia? You can get dirty and be convinced even to the point of turning blue in the face of the "putinoids", but the fact remains: the USSR's missile railway complexes are not suitable for use by Russia.

      Moreover, modern missiles (Poplar or Yars) are twice as light. And the complex at one time was actually built around the rocket.
      1. optimist
        +2
        27 May 2013 17: 21
        I will not argue with you. Moreover, I am not a rocket officer, but a signalman. But even I know that the main advantage of the BZHRK is that it is almost impossible to track it (unlike nuclear submarines, mobile and mine installations, which are constantly under Amerov's sight). That is why the putler (and in 2005 he was already in full control, you can't dump them on EBN) and cut them. As for the number of launchers ... Let at least two of these 36 "donuts" reach Washington, the Americans will tear themselves apart, but they will not climb up to us. Well, as for their Ukrainian origin, - so the terms of their service were still wow! And who prevented, without removing the old complexes from the database, to develop and put on duty new ones?
        1. +1
          28 May 2013 00: 12
          Quote: optimist
          But even I know that the main advantage of the BZHRK is almost impossible to trace (unlike nuclear submarines, mobile and mine installations, which are constantly under Amer’s sight).

          You are really an optimist! And tell me how you track a submarine in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? And google "Russia's nuclear bastion" for general development.
  13. +1
    27 May 2013 10: 32
    the photos are signed by 2010, but there is no outgoing number or date on the letter. So the photo is the result of the letter or the letter after them, and will they still be sorted out further?
    In general, it’s shitty :( No, we can understand - we build it with one hand, take it apart with the other, and then we write out money for restoration ourselves. It’s clear, otherwise you won’t fill your pocket :), but why destroy it, it would be possible to spend on paper like destroyed, how much would save ...
    Threat I have always been struck by American militants. In them, in most GGs it wets the bad in some inactive factory buildings with a full range of equipment, which even press a button and it will work (Terminator-2). So I recently looked at the next Bruce Willis, where there was nothing there near Chernobyl :) And everything was stolen and dismantled. So is it that America is so snickering that it’s too lazy to dismantle junk, or did they invent some new methods of virtual theft? :)
    1. +2
      27 May 2013 10: 51
      This movie. There are their own rules))) The network has photos of the cities and towns there, where you can shoot post-apocalyptic films.
  14. yurypetrunin
    +4
    27 May 2013 12: 42
    Are Serdyukov and Continent only bracelets on their hooves get off? After all, this is the Devil!
    Yuri Petrunin. Veteran of the Armed Forces of the USSR. Polar, Gatchina.
    1. ozs
      ozs
      +3
      27 May 2013 12: 44
      we are not 37 years old, you can’t do that about stools. There are no complaints about the disbandment of the army. So said the supreme commander.
      1. alexanderrus.
        +3
        27 May 2013 15: 24
        Really. After all, they have already reported in the media that Serdyukov is pure as a baby's tear. And the bracelets will be presented to him on his anniversary - gold.
  15. ixsus
    +1
    27 May 2013 13: 02
    It’s a pity that we lost such a powerful and unique weapon

    Of course it's a pity, it was a weapon that is very difficult to track down. This weapon guaranteed a retaliatory strike.

    I heard that now the missiles will not be heavy, there may be 2 locomotives. This is for the better. the load on the railway track will be less, visual visibility (trolleys if there are 2 times less wagons, if possible, hide the jacks, remove them if possible). Change the appearance of the wagons so that everything (ideally) is of the same type, refrigerated or commercial.

    Well, I don't know about changing locations ... Now everything is really good from satellites. It's too bad that the infrastructure has been brought to a state of complete disruption. New rails need to be laid, I think buildings are cap. repair, well, about the equipment and "electrics" generally keep quiet.
    IHMO

    PS I would be pleased if at least one division was put into service.
    1. 0
      27 May 2013 14: 46
      It can be seen that you are far from the realities of Russian Railways, about the destruction of infrastructure - this is a bunch in a puddle. Do not know the question - do not disgrace delusional statements
      1. ixsus
        +1
        27 May 2013 15: 02
        So please enlighten what is wrong?
        I wrote about restoring railway tracks in the parts themselves (this is a small problem) and / or creating new branches and / or paths. At one time they wrote that driving along the BZHRK route was very problematic. A lot of traffic is created when the BZHRK is on the route.
        1. +1
          27 May 2013 15: 47
          I repeat, special trains still carry trains (warheads, gold, raw materials for enrichment, etc.), and all this according to a special schedule. So for the BZHRK there will be no problems. And the infrastructure is maintained in good condition, it is being repaired, modernized on time, and modern traffic control and safety technologies are being introduced. And the parts themselves do not require much development, as on any non-public path even old-year rails are enough, naturally with speed limits.
          1. ixsus
            +1
            27 May 2013 17: 57
            (warheads, gold, raw materials for enrichment, etc.)
            Thank you!
            1. +1
              27 May 2013 18: 24
              in vain irony, I'm just, in some way, in the subject. All that is listed was transported accurately, under, etc. hiding what I do not know for sure, only by rumors. Since the times of the USSR, it has been commanded by railway workers that it is better not to be curious, it will be calmer (there have been cases).
              1. ixsus
                0
                27 May 2013 18: 27
                I was not ironic, I sincerely thanked for the answer.

                I don’t know how many missiles are carried on the train (just transportation). But, I think so much gold is not transported on trains at a time.

                Commodity can be loaded, the main thing that would have pulled from the place of the locomotive.

                in vain ironic, I'm just, in some way, in the subject

                I believe you, I just expressed my opinion based on my knowledge.
  16. +1
    27 May 2013 13: 16
    The article is ordinary trollism. Yes, they released BZHRK, but in the 90s a lot of things were released. What, now all my life to repent without knowing what and sprinkle ashes on my head? It is necessary to work, and not to restore, but to build a new, more perfect one. It is said that the R&D work on the new generation of BZHRK has begun - excellent, let's look at the results.
    1. ozs
      ozs
      -2
      27 May 2013 14: 27
      This was not done in the 90s !!!
      And you are the 2000s. And the infrastructure was smashed literally in the last few years !!!

      The article is ordinary trollism.

      This is your comment on ordinary post-Brech trollism.
      1. Atlon
        +1
        27 May 2013 23: 54
        Quote: ozs
        This was not done in the 90s !!! And you are in the 2000s. And the infrastructure was smashed literally in the last few years !!!

        Not tired of fucking?
        1. ozs
          ozs
          0
          29 May 2013 03: 00
          For the gifted, I repeat once again, the complex fell into disrepair after 2005 !!! And you mislead people! With their comments about the locals. It’s good power from the region, that's just the wrong people got caught
  17. +6
    27 May 2013 15: 09
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Quote: treskoed
    The question is - what to do?

    To revive everything again !!!
    Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.
    1. 0
      27 May 2013 17: 18
      Dreams Dreams.....
    2. +2
      27 May 2013 19: 04
      Quote: Imperial
      Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.


      This is in terms of logic. And it is right. BUT! because something (and someone) does not allow it to be done. And this is something that is a mystery covered in darkness.
      1. ixsus
        0
        27 May 2013 19: 33
        I agree, but .... But everything has already been "sold out" ... And who will do it? The new minister of defense has come, but I think he will not deal with this. You can argue for a long time who will be in charge of this, the prosecutor's office, the FSB or someone else ... They gave up on everything that happened before.
    3. Atlon
      0
      28 May 2013 01: 46
      Quote: Imperial
      Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.

      Do you mean the inhabitants of local villages?
  18. Algor73
    +4
    27 May 2013 16: 42
    Cool, everything turns out, the last, most important, found - Serdyukov in prison! Yes, he alone cannot be guilty! And it’s not so easy to tune everything when they stole and llama for 20 years. Simply, you need to change the criminal law, and criminal procedure. I don’t know how you do in Russia, but here, in Ukraine, this dermoanarchy has already gotten the most out of it.
  19. alpenstock
    +1
    27 May 2013 17: 54
    the article does not indicate the reason for which the complexes were reduced (destroyed). / pat on the shoulder, smiles of strategic "friends" /
  20. 0
    27 May 2013 18: 54
    This is what the "Gorbachev's" perestroika led to.
  21. MAG
    0
    27 May 2013 19: 25
    The second such service base, like ours was in Zvezdnoy, now I don’t know, like they should have bought railways
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  23. ixsus
    0
    27 May 2013 20: 01
    And who will tell you how to put several photos at once in one comment?
    I downloaded the photo from the forum, not mine, I apologize right away, I do not claim copyright wink
  24. +1
    27 May 2013 20: 28
    But it’s unnecessary to spend on dismantling old rubbish, the main thing is energy power and porches, the building is made modular from lightweight structures for less than 6 months, modern equipment takes up much less space, rails in the presence of prepared dumping are not a problem.
    What was thrown so far from a good life, there was nothing to eat, not just what the BZHRK should contain, and they would not have affected the course of history over the past 20 years, there were misconceptions about partnership and world peace after the Cold War, but they were dispelled and therefore, work to revive abandoned sites begins to boil.
  25. ixsus
    +2
    27 May 2013 20: 40
    Well said. I remember the empty shelves ... Then there was no money either for the army or for the people. But, the last BZHRK in 2005 was removed from duty. And at that time there was already money. It was necessary to comply with the agreement.
  26. +1
    27 May 2013 21: 28
    we have so much ruined everything that is insulting to tears
  27. 0
    27 May 2013 23: 05
    This article was written to the FSB on order. Such bases are no longer needed, there is no need to grieve over their ruin. Times have changed as well. In a slightly modified form, railway missile systems exist and are on combat duty. Where the new base is located, you can also figure There are signs by which military equipment can be calculated, although to an unprepared person all the cars seem the same. Enemies, by the way, also know this.
  28. smart
    +1
    28 May 2013 02: 15
    Served at facility number 510 (Perm - 75 "Zvezdny") Sad photos: construction 2-9 (30 m in height, for regulations) especially. Someone would not say anything, but the complex is unique and unobtrusive. The train rolled around Kirovskaya, Perm, Sverdlovsk, Tyumen, Chelyabinsk, Kurgan regions, Tatarstan, Bashkiria. There are many parking places (MS) - an arrow and a 500 m path with a viewing hole, try to determine what it is. But since it was put on the DB (1989), the technique has gone ahead, so if they make a light product, it will be super.

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