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All that remains of BZHRK. Station "Far" and PPD

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Not so long ago, from the mouth of the deputy. Defense Minister Yuri Borisov sounded that MIT had begun development work on the creation of a new generation of railway missile systems.


It would seem that this is what many have been waiting for. The beginning of the revival of the legendary rocket trains. After all, they were on duty, in the period from 1987 to 2005 year. And this means for the new generation of rocket trains there was a tremendous backlog, ready infrastructure.
And so let's see what remains of this infrastructure and in what condition it is.
The main duty station of BZhRK is the station "Dalnyaya" 10 of the Strategic Missile Forces division in the Kostroma region.

All that remains of BZHRK. Station "Far" and PPD

at the entrance we will meet hedgehogs



Left in the distance is the TPU (technical control panel), in the center is the wagon depot and a small repair garage behind it.



As you can see the rails are almost everywhere dismantled.



The main building of the base and the heart of the whole complex.
One of two things in the USSR, in which the launch canister could be lifted from the car into a vertical position for routine maintenance. 2010 year



Communication service complex



Inside the workshop, inspection pit



Inside one of the rooms. Once the equipment was housed here, and now - the devastation ...



Depot



Depot Exploded floors from torn rails.



Pumping station



Headquarters building



Inside the headquarters



Dismantling is in full swing


It is a pity that we have lost so powerful and unique weaponwhose worthy analogues still do not exist in the world and the necessary infrastructure for its maintenance. Currently, the base is sold into private hands for 45 million rubles (the price of one elite apartment in Moscow), the purpose of the sale is to cut metal and construction waste. The country that has created all this is no longer 20 years old, and its legacy is still being destroyed. And the saddest thing is that all this happens not in the dashing 90, but in the well-fed 2005-2013, with multi-billion rearmament programs. The question is who is to blame? The answer is obvious.

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  1. smel
    smel 27 May 2013 06: 26 New
    15
    It was possible without the name of the object ... This situation is everywhere.
    1. Dragonmu
      Dragonmu 27 May 2013 11: 22 New
      11
      The article is similar to the cry of the Opps. "And the saddest thing is that this all happens not in the dashing 90s, but in the well-fed 2005-2013, with multi-billion dollar rearmament programs. The question is, who is to blame for this? The answer is obvious.".
      As can be seen from the document, everything was sawn and stolen in the 90s, and now it’s just empty ruins. Therefore, it is obvious that new trains (if they exist) will need new infrastructure, how much it is advisable to restore this base is not clear who and when sold is also not clear. In short, my personal opinion, the meaning of the article is to throw a stone at the government, but carefully and subtly. Just a conclusion is not related in meaning to the rest of the article.
      1. edge
        edge 27 May 2013 12: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: DragonMu
        The article is similar to the cry of the Opps. "And the saddest thing is that this all happens not in the dashing 90s, but in well-fed 2005-2013

        looters here and there .... freebie, only Vissarionych managed to cope with these plunders of national property
      2. ozs
        27 May 2013 12: 09 New
        +7
        Well no, until 2006 the base was in good condition. And she was brought to such a state over the past seven years.
      3. ozs
        27 May 2013 12: 42 New
        +5
        In short, my personal opinion, the meaning of the article is to throw a stone at the government, but carefully and subtly. Just a conclusion is not related in meaning to the rest of the article.
        And who is to blame for this, me or you or Vasya Pupkin? There are people who are responsible for this and receive money for their work. These people are sitting in the government, if they brought it all to such a state, it means it’s to blame for this, the answer is obvious to me.
        Just the same, the only conclusion that could come after what he saw. Or there must be a conclusion, that's what a bad ebn brought to this state, and the current white and fluffy ebn, of course, has done a lot of things, but this all happens in our time.
        And it is asked why the heck to spend billions, even if they already can’t save what they’ve already built.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 27 May 2013 23: 58 New
          -2
          Quote: ozs
          And who is to blame for this, me or you or Vasya Pupkin?

          It is strange that this article came out now when the question arose about the restoration of the complex, and not eleven years ago, when all this was destroyed! Anti-Russian PR.
      4. alexng
        alexng 28 May 2013 01: 22 New
        0
        Quote: DragonMu
        Therefore, it is obvious that new trains (if they exist) will need new infrastructure, how much it is advisable to restore this base is not clear who and when sold is also not clear.


        Of course, no one will restore this lost infrastructure (very expensive), but will create a new one and nobody will advertise it. And most likely there will be several such points and disguised as inconspicuous railway nodes.
        An article with donkey ears. I call such articles "cheap article or trick article".
        Oh, how liberals want it, and even worse, patriots ury-blame the dashing nineties on those who are now correcting their own shoals. This is a common meanness and a complete lack of conscience. Not ashamed? Maybe enough to be scum? Do not bother to recreate others that such as ... "pickers" in the nose (in the backside) in the nineties got a little bad.
    2. astra
      astra 27 May 2013 17: 18 New
      +2
      Does this happen - we are told that the BZHRK complex will be reborn, orders to start work have been given, but in fact, “the horse did not roll”? What again, big words for raising the rating and popularity ?! Words with deeds diverge. It is necessary to introduce responsibility for unfounded promises - promised - do it if you could not then farewell.
      1. DMB87
        DMB87 27 May 2013 17: 44 New
        +1
        And where does the old base? Before you ring out. Do you know for sure that work is not being carried out, new locations are not being selected?
        1. ozs
          27 May 2013 18: 22 New
          +3
          Do you know for sure that work is being carried out and new locations are being selected? This short note shows the real situation of the case, which incidentally occurred over the past five to seven years.
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 31 New
            0
            Quote: ozs
            This short note shows the real situation of the case, which incidentally occurred over the past five to seven years.

            This article shows the lies that you are trying to PR here! Just get it right before spraying saliva. The photos are genuine. laughing Lies the presentation itself, and the author’s conclusions.
        2. old man54
          old man54 27 May 2013 22: 16 New
          +1
          why new then? Why are old bad? Or do we have nowhere to put money?
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: old man54
            why new then? Why are old bad? Or do we have nowhere to put money?

            What car do you have? I doubt that the VAZ-2101, or Moskvich 412. And what were bad? Or have you got nowhere to go?
      2. djon3volta
        djon3volta 27 May 2013 18: 41 New
        -2
        Quote: astra
        they tell us that the BZHRK complex will revive, orders to start work have been given, but in fact, “the horse didn’t lie around”? What again, big words for raising the rating and popularity ?!

        there are old agreements signed by Yeltsin that need to be implemented, and they are being implemented so that there is no unnecessary hype. and there are new tasks and orders where there is no prohibition to build NEW BZHRK.
        Is there an international law that the BZHRK can’t be built in Russia? There is no such law. So you can build it.
        the same thing with missiles, the fact that it was decided to saw the majority signed in the 90s as well as a piece of paper on the screen, they fulfill the obligations, who signed them in the 90s everyone also knows. But laws or treaties that Russia can’t build this - there are no such laws. It will be necessary to build a death star, because there are no international laws that it is forbidden to build a death star.
        nuclear weapons are forbidden to be placed in outer space, so no one places them there!
      3. Atlon
        Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 27 New
        0
        Quote: astra
        It is necessary to introduce responsibility for unfounded promises - promised - do it if you could not then farewell.

        And also introduce responsibility for such articles and provocative throws.

        seed:
        Not so long ago, from the mouth of the deputy. Defense Minister Yuri Borisov sounded that MIT had begun development work on the creation of a new generation of railway missile systems.


        "Article"
        And so let's see what remains of this infrastructure and in what condition it is.
        The main duty station of the BZHRK is the Dalnaya station of the 10th Strategic Rocket Forces Division in the Kostroma Region.


        Conclusions:
        The country that created all this has been gone for over 20 years, and its legacy is still being destroyed. And the saddest thing is that all this is happening not in the dashing 90s, but in well-fed 2005-2013, with multi-billion dollar rearmament programs. The question is, who is to blame? The answer is obvious.


        Moreover, the document in the last photo completely compromises both the author and his conclusions!
        To begin with, it dates back to 1992-94 (judging by links to government decrees), and this is at least 20 (!) Years before today, so that we can’t talk about “well-fed 2005-2013,” and the second is that the document is not about the BZHRK at all! For the BZHRK simply DOES NOT HAVE a silo (silo-launcher). laughing

        The article is not about anything. All venture for the sake of this phrase: "The question is, who is to blame? The answer is obvious."
        I have a counter question: "Who needs such articles? The answer is obvious." wink
    3. SPACE
      SPACE 27 May 2013 18: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: smel
      It was possible without the name of the object

      You read the article, read the comments and are horrified by the garbage that is happening here. The article is complete, moreover, definitely minus “-“ - “-“. I want to inform you that with all the regrets, such a wonderful complex as the BZHRK, after all, SERVED ITS TIME, IS NOT MORE PROSPECTS IN IT! Yes, there was a good complex, but the whole thing came out, the time is not right! Someone says that this is the only complex that can not be traced, HA! Yes, quit. First: his companions will calculate at a time! Second: to create a network of informers, in the conditions of today's democracy, a couple of trifles, well, five, well, ten trains, but they will still figure out how to do it. And how much does it take to use and protect it, driving around the country? Bullshit. It does not make sense to restore it even with poplars. It’s better to cut the Boreev or, in extreme cases, rearm the Typhoons. Spit in the face to the strategist who will tell you that a submarine lying on the ground at a depth in its territorial waters is easier to spot, it is down below the baseboard fool fool fool.
      And now a personal opinion about what you need to have! And first, you must have at least all 50 missiles of the Voevoda type in your mines, with all the breathing and shaving, such sloppy strategists! And a warning system for missile attack SPRN as part of satellites and horizontal radars. Any hypersonic missile needs time, well, at least let 5 minutes, in order to take off and get to the missile mines, During this time, the SPRN will detect them for any reason and the Voivode will take off for a RESPONSE-BATTLE IMPACT! ...... In general, such logical and obvious things, even as inconvenient to write in VO.
      Z.Y. The author is most likely a troll, offended by Putin and trying to take revenge by shoving his article, influencing the sick corns of the audience of Military Review, the Lord wake up and think again?! ....
  2. treskoed
    treskoed 27 May 2013 06: 40 New
    +1
    The question is, who is to blame?

    The question is - what to do?
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 27 May 2013 06: 59 New
      10
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      To revive everything again !!!
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 27 May 2013 09: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        To revive everything again !!!

        What will be done in a new, modern version. I am quite sure of that. Since new trains, new TPKs, new fillings, new cars, then, accordingly, talking about outdated equipment for maintenance does not always make sense. After all, we do not see and are silent when the army dismantles the old, to replace it with a new one.
      2. edge
        edge 27 May 2013 12: 15 New
        0
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        The question is - what to do?

        to go along the western path, to accustom to thought, I am a taxpayer and all this is built on my money ..... otherwise, now the principle reigns, everything is collective farm, everything is mine
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 28 May 2013 00: 03 New
          0
          Quote: hert
          to go along the western path, to accustom to thought, I am a taxpayer and all this is built on my money ..... otherwise, now the principle reigns, everything is collective farm, everything is mine

          Decided to help foreign intelligence? Wait for the guys from the FSB to visit.
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 27 May 2013 09: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKIIIIIIII
    3. Atlon
      Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 35 New
      0
      Quote: treskoed
      The question is - what to do?

      Expose the author of the text! Speaking in Albanian: author, drink yadu! And kill yourself!
  3. User777
    User777 27 May 2013 06: 41 New
    +3
    It is sad.
    1. Denis
      Denis 27 May 2013 07: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: User777
      It is sad.

      Unfortunately, this has become familiar ..
  4. Denis
    Denis 27 May 2013 06: 42 New
    +3
    A sad sight ...
    But the main advantage of the BZHRK is secrecy, maybe something less noticeable should be equipped or already equipped?
    And then they are deployed in one place, this only in a hangover upper limb (you could not even call your head) could come
    1. adg76
      adg76 27 May 2013 09: 52 New
      0
      It is impossible to repair !!!!!! Only the construction in a new place, as hidden as possible. This provision of the part is disclosed and poses a threat to personnel and military personnel in case of conflict
      1. ozs
        27 May 2013 12: 35 New
        +1
        According to your logic, Votkinsk also needs to destroy all mines, since a probable enemy knows about them and they are uncovered. So it turns out?
        Even if this complex of structures is no longer needed, although our government does not need anything, then still it was not necessary to do this.
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 38 New
          -1
          Quote: ozs
          Even if this complex of structures is no longer needed, although our government does not need anything, then still it was not necessary to do this.

          But as? Cover with a crystal sarcophagus? Make a museum? To carry tourists? And then, 80% of all the devastation was made by local residents! One had only to remove the protection ... Especially in the 90s.
  5. Garrin
    Garrin 27 May 2013 06: 45 New
    +5
    But it would be nice to know who the owners of this Continent CJSC are. I think that this Continent is not far from MO.
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 27 May 2013 17: 15 New
      +1
      Most likely, in London you need to look for them
  6. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 27 May 2013 06: 57 New
    +9
    It’s cheaper to restore than to keep working indefinitely.
    Restore and rebuild with the new technologies, do not worry.
  7. avant-garde
    avant-garde 27 May 2013 07: 05 New
    +6
    Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!
    1. dizelniy
      dizelniy 27 May 2013 07: 22 New
      0
      What to do and who is to blame?
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 27 May 2013 07: 30 New
        +2
        to look for guilty among officials is the same as looking for a black cat in a dark room !!! All ordinary people understand that Serdyukov is to blame, but the authorities do not see this.
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 40 New
          0
          Quote: avant-garde
          All ordinary people understand that Serdyukov is to blame, but the authorities do not see this.

          Well, of course ... At the same time, such an understanding "ordinary people" has stolen what has ceased to be protected and handed over for scrap! Serdyukov is certainly to blame, or who was there before him? Because it was necessary to tear off the hands of the "simple people", the plunderer of socialist property!
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 27 May 2013 09: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: avant-garde
      Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!

      Roads are our tactical weapon
      Fools are strategic.
    3. Egen
      Egen 27 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: avant-garde
      there was the first of two troubles of Russia!

      ... and made the second :(
    4. Krilion
      Krilion 27 May 2013 11: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: avant-garde
      Looking at the photo you can see that the first of two troubles of Russia has been there!



      "It is not true that in Russia there are two misfortunes - fools and roads. In Russia, ONE misfortune is idiots."
  8. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 27 May 2013 07: 20 New
    16
    Our countries are amazing and tenacious. We’ve been ruining and plundering for 22 years (I’m talking about my Ukraine) and ... it turns out, we are flourishing. How do we exist? Unclear. Trade and construction plus office plankton. The granary rich in chernozem found itself in the zone of risky agriculture. Arabs and Israel, plus half of Africa, half of Latin America, the Near and Far East, vegetables and fruits to Ukraine rod. From onions and potatoes to apples and pears. Fun, happy life. We build high-rise buildings from concrete and drywall, preliminarily setting fire to and destroying everything in a favorite place, down to historical values, losing face and color of the city (used sunny Odessa). When mixed from one city to another, we see a "colorful" picture of the devastation of agriculture, as in the photo in the article, dozens of abandoned airfields and a huge number of military towns. Like in the article. "Currently sold privately." Yes, our state is completely surrendered to private hands. Someone is lucky, there is a master, someone is not. What have we built? Rather, how did they build us.
  9. individual
    individual 27 May 2013 07: 22 New
    0
    O B AND D N O!
    But this is how we build, destroy, build and live.
  10. ImPerts
    ImPerts 27 May 2013 07: 48 New
    +5
    As far as I remember, the passage of the BZHRK requires preparation, and most importantly, the agreed schedules for the passage of trains. This item will be the most difficult. Railway was first turned into Russian Railways, then they began to bite off pieces. Private traders will put sticks in the wheels, it’s easier for them to cut money than to think.
    1. Irkutsk
      Irkutsk 27 May 2013 10: 04 New
      +1
      Special trains still run on the train, and the passage schedules are most necessary for the customer. For the BZHRK (God forbid that they revived), the owner of the infrastructure (RZD) certainly will not fix any obstacles. On the Russian Railways even special. the department (1st) has not been reformed, it still functions. By the way, the state has a controlling stake in Russian Railways.
  11. YaRusich
    YaRusich 27 May 2013 08: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: ImPerts
    As far as I remember, the passage of the BZHRK requires preparation, and most importantly, the agreed schedules for the passage of trains. This item will be the most difficult. Railway was first turned into Russian Railways, then they began to bite off pieces. Private traders will put sticks in the wheels, it’s easier for them to cut money than to think.

    the old complex was not so invisible because with a weight of more than 100 tons, it could only walk on special railway lines (reinforced) and were rigidly tied to maintenance points.

    It seems that in the new version, the weight is reduced (due to the new rocket) and the binding will not be so tight. That will give greater opportunities for the use of civil railway. God give it.

    PS. About scalpels and BZHRK there was a detailed article on VO. http://topwar.ru/24562-raketnye-poezda-starye-i-novye.html
    1. Irkutsk
      Irkutsk 27 May 2013 10: 15 New
      +2
      100 tons. This is the weight of one carriage with a rocket, and it is longer and on eight (or six) axes, instead of 4 for a conventional ref. With a certain knowledge, it is very easy to track this from outer space, a “native” M62 diesel locomotive was tied to each train, despite the fact that the trains were transported to sections by electric locomotives serving this section. By the nature of work, I saw them in the 80s, safety measures at stations are unprecedented
    2. ImPerts
      ImPerts 27 May 2013 10: 56 New
      0
      Quote: YaRusich
      and most importantly - agreed schedules for the passage of trains.

      It bothers me more.
  12. optimist
    optimist 27 May 2013 09: 58 New
    0
    Another hello putinoidam! Your bastard guru faithfully follows Washington's instructions! BZHRK-the only thing that could really break ... opu Americans. And this whole chatter about recovery is nothing more than a chatter. Even if there is a real recovery, how long will it take? There is a very persistent feeling that a peaceful life in Russia will end very, very soon ...
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 27 May 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      And you are, indeed, an optimist.
      1. optimist
        optimist 27 May 2013 10: 35 New
        +1
        I will tell you a military secret: I am a realist !!! laughing
      2. Atlon
        Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Nitup
        And you are, indeed, an optimist.

        He's just a MIRACLE ... Never mind.
    2. Irkutsk
      Irkutsk 27 May 2013 10: 18 New
      0
      do not wait ... Optimists Mlyn
      1. optimist
        optimist 27 May 2013 10: 36 New
        +1
        Tell in this case, what did you wait for? Streams piz..zha from zomboyaschik?
        1. ssergn
          ssergn 27 May 2013 16: 00 New
          +6
          I’ll tell you one simple thing - most (in my opinion, percent of 90) finished back in 90's or the beginning of 2000's. By his own example - in 2000, he came to Omsk. So, at this point, Saturn, Flight, Aggregate Plant or have already finished, or they were at the very end of the path - that is, the bankruptcy procedure and then according to the scheme. At the same time, the infrastructure has already been destroyed, there are no orders and so on. Plus finished off the situation with taxes, because all enterprises changed their form of ownership to private, there was no investment in infrastructure and funds. And to stop this process at that time was almost impossible. And the situation with Izhmash is all the songs from the same opera. It’s just that the opera is bigger and the songs are longer - so I don’t need to explain who started it all. A low bow and an anchor in the ass to the gentlemen of the young reformers am
        2. Atlon
          Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 46 New
          0
          Quote: optimist
          Tell in this case, what did you wait for?

          To date, your appearance and foul-smelling brown flesh from your mouth ... wink
    3. AK-47
      AK-47 27 May 2013 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      ... faithfully complies with Washington's directions!

      I believe that such decisions are made after a comprehensive study, taking into account economic, political, realities. The limited funds of the military budget should be used with the greatest effect mainly in promising types of weapons.
    4. ImPerts
      ImPerts 27 May 2013 11: 01 New
      +2
      The remarks of the "optimist" do not differ in meaning from the remarks of Nemtsov, Alekseeva and the like. Everything is bad, polymers are ... wounded.
      1. optimist
        optimist 27 May 2013 11: 11 New
        +2
        I will tell you a second military secret: I do not hate all of the listed individuals as well as the putler and his minions. Moreover: I am sure that they all fell out from under one “tail”. You, most importantly, often watch federal channels on TV and life will be better and more beautiful !!!
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 27 May 2013 13: 17 New
          -2
          In order to be better, more beautiful and more often, I have a wife. TV channels me for
          Quote: optimist
          watch federal channels on TV more often and life will be better and more beautiful !!!

          Not needed.
        2. rexby63
          rexby63 27 May 2013 22: 35 New
          +2
          However, sing one song with them. Why?
        3. Atlon
          Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: optimist
          I hate the same way as the putler

          What is a putler? what

          Quote: optimist
          You, most importantly, often watch federal channels on TV and life will be better and more beautiful !!!

          Thank you, I will follow your advice! Although, life is already quite beautiful! By the way, judging by your mental level and vocabulary, you only watch “House 2” on TNT and “Comedy Club” on STS. And your life is getting worse and worse! laughing
    5. abc_alex
      abc_alex 27 May 2013 16: 48 New
      +5
      Yeah. 3 divisions 12 regiments 36 PU. Well straight torn to shreds. For reference: 1 Shark (nuclear submarine of project 941) carried 20 launchers. 955 project carries 16 launchers.

      The performance characteristics of Molodets and R-39 are comparable. But there is a nuance: "Well done" designed and manufactured in Ukraine. Something else to add or it’s already clear that the railway complex in such a has no prospects for Russia? It is possible to accumulate and be persuaded even to the point of turning blue on the topic of “putinoids”, but the fact remains: the USSR missile railway complexes are not suitable for use by Russia.

      Moreover, modern missiles (Poplar or Yars) are twice as light. And the complex at one time was actually built around the rocket.
      1. optimist
        optimist 27 May 2013 17: 21 New
        +2
        I will not argue with you. Moreover, I’m not a rocket launcher, but a signalman. But even I know that the main advantage of the BZHRK is almost impossible to trace (unlike nuclear submarines, mobile and mine installations, which are constantly under Amer’s sight). That’s why the putler (and in 2005 he was already in charge of the house, you won’t fall on the EBN) and cut them. As for the number of launchers ... Let at least two of these 36 fly into Washington, the Americans will tear themselves apart, but they won’t reach us. Well, as for their Ukrainian origin, so the terms of their service were still awesome! And who prevented, without removing the old complexes from the database, from developing and putting new ones on duty?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 28 May 2013 00: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: optimist
          But even I know that the main advantage of the BZHRK is almost impossible to trace (unlike nuclear submarines, mobile and mine installations, which are constantly under Amer’s sight).

          Yes, you really are an optimist! And tell me how you track the submarine in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? And google for the overall development of the "nuclear bastion of Russia."
  13. Egen
    Egen 27 May 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    the photos are signed by 2010, but there is no outgoing number or date on the letter. So the photo is the result of the letter or the letter after them, and will they still be sorted out further?
    In general, it’s shitty :( No, we can understand - we build it with one hand, take it apart with the other, and then we write out money for restoration ourselves. It’s clear, otherwise you won’t fill your pocket :), but why destroy it, it would be possible to spend on paper like destroyed, how much would save ...
    Threat I have always been struck by American militants. In them, in most GGs it wets the bad in some inactive factory buildings with a full range of equipment, which even press a button and it will work (Terminator-2). So I recently looked at the next Bruce Willis, where there was nothing there near Chernobyl :) And everything was stolen and dismantled. So is it that America is so snickering that it’s too lazy to dismantle junk, or did they invent some new methods of virtual theft? :)
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 27 May 2013 10: 51 New
      +2
      This movie. There are their own rules))) The network has photos of the cities and towns there, where you can shoot post-apocalyptic films.
  14. yurypetrunin
    yurypetrunin 27 May 2013 12: 42 New
    +4
    Are Serdyukov and Continent only bracelets on their hooves get off? After all, this is the Devil!
    Yuri Petrunin. Veteran of the Armed Forces of the USSR. Polar, Gatchina.
    1. ozs
      27 May 2013 12: 44 New
      +3
      we are not 37 years old, you can’t do that about stools. There are no complaints about the disbandment of the army. So said the supreme commander.
      1. alexander rus.
        alexander rus. 27 May 2013 15: 24 New
        +3
        Really. After all, they have already reported in the media that Serdyukov is pure as a baby's tear. And the bracelets will be presented to him on his anniversary - gold.
  15. ixsus
    ixsus 27 May 2013 13: 02 New
    +1
    It’s a pity that we lost such a powerful and unique weapon

    Of course it's a pity, it was a weapon that is very difficult to track down. This weapon guaranteed a retaliatory strike.

    I heard that now the missiles will not be heavy, there may be 2 locomotives. This is for the better. the load on the railway track will be less, visual visibility (trolleys if there are 2 times less wagons, if possible, hide the jacks, remove them if possible). Change the appearance of the wagons so that everything (ideally) is of the same type, refrigerated or commercial.

    Well, I don’t know about the change of location ... Now everything is really well visible from satellites. It is very bad that the infrastructure was brought to a state of complete devastation. New rails need to be put, I think the buildings are thorough. repair, well, about the equipment and the "electrician" in general I am silent.
    IHMO

    PS I would be pleased if at least one division was put into service.
    1. Irkutsk
      Irkutsk 27 May 2013 14: 46 New
      0
      It can be seen that you are far from the realities of Russian Railways, about the destruction of infrastructure - this is a bunch in a puddle. Do not know the question - do not disgrace delusional statements
      1. ixsus
        ixsus 27 May 2013 15: 02 New
        +1
        So please enlighten what is wrong?
        I wrote about restoring railway tracks in the parts themselves (this is a small problem) and / or creating new branches and / or paths. At one time they wrote that driving along the BZHRK route was very problematic. A lot of traffic is created when the BZHRK is on the route.
        1. Irkutsk
          Irkutsk 27 May 2013 15: 47 New
          +1
          I repeat, special trains still carry trains (warheads, gold, raw materials for enrichment, etc.), and all this according to a special schedule. So for the BZHRK there will be no problems. And the infrastructure is maintained in good condition, it is being repaired, modernized on time, and modern traffic control and safety technologies are being introduced. And the parts themselves do not require much development, as on any non-public path even old-year rails are enough, naturally with speed limits.
          1. ixsus
            ixsus 27 May 2013 17: 57 New
            +1
            (warheads, gold, raw materials for enrichment, etc.)
            Thank you!
            1. Irkutsk
              Irkutsk 27 May 2013 18: 24 New
              +1
              in vain irony, I'm just, in some way, in the subject. All that is listed was transported accurately, under, etc. hiding what I do not know for sure, only by rumors. Since the times of the USSR, it has been commanded by railway workers that it is better not to be curious, it will be calmer (there have been cases).
              1. ixsus
                ixsus 27 May 2013 18: 27 New
                0
                I was not ironic, I sincerely thanked for the answer.

                I don’t know how many missiles are carried on the train (just transportation). But, I think so much gold is not transported on trains at a time.

                Commodity can be loaded, the main thing that would have pulled from the place of the locomotive.

                in vain ironic, I'm just, in some way, in the subject

                I believe you, I just expressed my opinion based on my knowledge.
  16. Burbur
    Burbur 27 May 2013 13: 16 New
    +1
    The article is ordinary trollism. Yes, they released BZHRK, but in the 90s a lot of things were released. What, now all my life to repent without knowing what and sprinkle ashes on my head? It is necessary to work, and not to restore, but to build a new, more perfect one. It is said that the R&D work on the new generation of BZHRK has begun - excellent, let's look at the results.
    1. ozs
      27 May 2013 14: 27 New
      -2
      This was not done in the 90s !!!
      And you are the 2000s. And the infrastructure was smashed literally in the last few years !!!

      The article is ordinary trollism.

      This is your comment on ordinary post-Brech trollism.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 27 May 2013 23: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: ozs
        This was not done in the 90s !!! And you are in the 2000s. And the infrastructure was smashed literally in the last few years !!!

        Not tired of fucking?
        1. ozs
          29 May 2013 03: 00 New
          0
          For the gifted, I repeat once again, the complex fell into disrepair after 2005 !!! And you mislead people! With their comments about the locals. It’s good power from the region, that's just the wrong people got caught
  17. Imperial
    Imperial 27 May 2013 15: 09 New
    +6
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Quote: treskoed
    The question is - what to do?

    To revive everything again !!!
    Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 27 May 2013 17: 18 New
      0
      Dreams Dreams.....
    2. valton
      valton 27 May 2013 19: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Imperial
      Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.


      This is in terms of logic. And it is right. BUT! because something (and someone) does not allow it to be done. And this is something that is a mystery covered in darkness.
      1. ixsus
        ixsus 27 May 2013 19: 33 New
        0
        I agree, but .... But everyone has already "sold out" ... And who will do it? The new Minister of Defense has come, but I think he will not do this. You can talk for a long time about who will do this, the prosecutor's office, the FSB or someone else ... They scored on everything that used to be.
    3. Atlon
      Atlon 28 May 2013 01: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Imperial
      Yes! Fence around with a thorn and all those who plundered to direct to build and so throughout the country, but the property of those thieves-confiscate.

      Do you mean the inhabitants of local villages?
  18. Algor73
    Algor73 27 May 2013 16: 42 New
    +4
    Cool, everything turns out, the last, most important, found - Serdyukov in prison! Yes, he alone cannot be guilty! And it’s not so easy to tune everything when they stole and llama for 20 years. Simply, you need to change the criminal law, and criminal procedure. I don’t know how you do in Russia, but here, in Ukraine, this dermoanarchy has already gotten the most out of it.
  19. alpenstock
    alpenstock 27 May 2013 17: 54 New
    +1
    the article does not indicate the reason for which the complexes were reduced (destroyed). / pat on the shoulder, smiles of strategic "friends" /
  20. valton
    valton 27 May 2013 18: 54 New
    0
    This is what the Gorbachev perestroika led to.
  21. MAG
    MAG 27 May 2013 19: 25 New
    0
    The second such service base, like ours was in Zvezdnoy, now I don’t know, like they should have bought railways
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  23. ixsus
    ixsus 27 May 2013 20: 01 New
    0
    And who will tell you how to put several photos at once in one comment?
    I downloaded the photo from the forum, not mine, I apologize right away, I do not claim copyright wink
  24. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 27 May 2013 20: 28 New
    +1
    But it’s unnecessary to spend on dismantling old rubbish, the main thing is energy power and porches, the building is made modular from lightweight structures for less than 6 months, modern equipment takes up much less space, rails in the presence of prepared dumping are not a problem.
    What was thrown so far from a good life, there was nothing to eat, not just what the BZHRK should contain, and they would not have affected the course of history over the past 20 years, there were misconceptions about partnership and world peace after the Cold War, but they were dispelled and therefore, work to revive abandoned sites begins to boil.
  25. ixsus
    ixsus 27 May 2013 20: 40 New
    +2
    Well said. I remember the empty shelves ... Then there was no money either for the army or for the people. But, the last BZHRK in 2005 was removed from duty. And at that time there was already money. It was necessary to comply with the agreement.
  26. deman73
    deman73 27 May 2013 21: 28 New
    +1
    we have so much ruined everything that is insulting to tears
  27. uzer 13
    uzer 13 27 May 2013 23: 05 New
    0
    This article was written to the FSB on order. Such bases are no longer needed, there is no need to grieve over their ruin. Times have changed as well. In a slightly modified form, railway missile systems exist and are on combat duty. Where the new base is located, you can also figure There are signs by which military equipment can be calculated, although to an unprepared person all the cars seem the same. Enemies, by the way, also know this.
  28. smart
    smart 28 May 2013 02: 15 New
    +1
    He served at the facility number 510 (Perm - 75 "Star"). Photo sad: the construction of 2-9 (30 m in height, for regulations) especially. Someone would not say, but the complex is unique and inconspicuous. The train rode along the Kirov, Perm, Sverdlovsk, Tyumen, Chelyabinsk, Kurgan Regions, Tataria, Bashkiria. There are many places of parking (MC) - an arrow and 500 m of track with a viewing hole, try to determine what it is. But since the time of putting it on the database (1989), the technology has advanced, so if they make a light product, it will be super.