Vladimir Putin increased the number of personnel in the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

Vladimir Putin signed a document adjusting the maximum staffing level for the Ministry of Emergency Situations. According to the decree, posted on the official legal information portal, the agency now has 307101 positions. The previous standard, established in January 2023, was 303107. Almost 4 more employees have been added. About 8 of the agency's personnel are military personnel.

The main goal of the staffing review at the Ministry of Emergency Situations is to fill the personnel gaps in the federal fire service. According to March data, the personnel shortage there has exceeded 20% and is still declining. The situation is worst in the capital, as well as in the Vladimir, Magadan, and Tula regions, and Udmurtia. Under the new schedule, up to 7 military personnel are planned to be reassigned to reinforce fire departments.

Shortly before the decree's publication, on June 23, Vladimir Putin met with top graduates from specialized universities, including those representing the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Federal Security Service, the Federal Protective Service, the National Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, and the Federal Penitentiary Service. The President congratulated them on their successful completion of their studies and expressed hope for their effective implementation of state security objectives.

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[Murmur 55]

And why don't people want to work in the Fire Department? Why is there a shortage of personnel? It's the same in healthcare, education, and the police. And yet these are vital services.

[paul3390]

They pay little, but pile on work—up to your bald spots. Especially the overwhelming amount of paperwork.

[alexoff]

The number of cases is directly proportional to the number of staff leaving. It's the same everywhere. I know, in one city near Moscow, a post office closed, serving about 50 people, and everyone left with a salary of 25 rubles, even the cashiers. And anyone who comes back will be offered the same salary as everyone else, so it's hard to imagine it ever reopening.

[Gunther]

Quote from alexoff

...in one city near Moscow, the post office closed, serving about 50 thousand people

This is not just a problem in the Moscow region - I know of three neighboring regions with the same problems. "Efficient managers" have ruined, in my opinion, the Russian Post.
And I wonder what percentage of those 4,000 employees landed in management positions.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

For such things, the local mayor should be immediately kicked out and the governor should be forced to resign or advised to find another employer.
The money will be found immediately and those who want it will appear.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Ivan Kuzmich

For such things, the local mayor should be immediately kicked out and the governor should be forced to resign or advised to find another employer.

Russian Post is in no way dependent on governors and mayors; its management is based in Moscow.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Quote: Ivan Kuzmich

For such things, the local mayor should be immediately kicked out and the governor should be forced to resign or advised to find another employer.

Russian Post is in no way dependent on governors and mayors; its management is based in Moscow.

They should have asked the local authorities, and believe me, additional money was found to overcome the personnel shortage at the initial stage, and then you can ask the post office management.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Ivan Kuzmich

Believe me, additional funds were found to overcome the personnel shortage at the initial stage.

This, sir, is called embezzlement or misappropriation of budgetary funds - a criminal offense.

[alexoff]

Why not the post office's top management? Whose salaries are astronomical?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: paul3390

Especially the abundance of all kinds of papers..

Yesterday, I signed a contract for maintenance of gas equipment in my apartment (a gas stove). The contract was already ready when I arrived; it had just been printed from the computer. I took the contract and went into the next room, where they were entering my name into the database for payment for gas consumption and maintenance. So, the employee took the contract from me and printed it out, as I understand it. Again, the employees were sitting in the next rooms, both with computers. The saga of "bring a certificate for this certificate" with the introduction of computers and "digitalization" has not ended, and is unlikely to end. Bureaucracy is invincible.

[Takeshi Kitano]

We use computers as wooden abacuses.

[paul3390]

The late Zhirinovsky even suggested making it so that citizens only need a passport to apply. As for all the other paperwork, let agencies ask each other for it themselves if they need it so much. And set a deadline for responding to requests, under penalty of dismissal and a black mark, all the way up to the boss. Maybe then bureaucrats will consider whether it's worth churning out countless paperwork?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: paul3390

The late Zhirinovsky also suggested

A very good and sensible proposal, but....alas.
After going through all sorts of authorities, I became firmly convinced that in the near future, you won't even be able to enter a public restroom without a photocopy of your passport and a statement agreeing to the processing of your personal data.

[Amin_vivec]

What's the point of all these papers and reports? I didn't invent the rule: "Done - write it down; didn't do it - write it twice."

[miry_mir]

All the paper reports were concocted in Moscow's bloated offices of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, demonstrating the necessity of their position and the desk they occupy in the office. These are stupid people and they come up with reports for the sake of reports.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The saga of "bring a certificate for this certificate" with the introduction of computers and "digitalization" has not ended, and is unlikely to ever end.

Now it's just paper and computer management, before it was just paper...

[topol717]

Quote: paul3390

They pay little, but pile on work—up to your bald spots. Especially the overwhelming amount of paperwork.

Former firefighters are the best at table tennis and billiards.

[Melior]

The job is good, but if there's a fire, you might as well quit!

[topol717]

I don't understand why you got minuses, here's a plus from me.

[Aleksey27]

Firefighters are bugs! And firefighters are firefighters! It's like calling you people (no offense, just so you understand).

[pharmacist]

It's all so trivial - the pay isn't great, and you don't feel like you're your own boss. It's not like being a blogger.

[Murmur 55]

pharmacist Well, what if the MARKET decides and a delivery driver on an electric scooter earns more than many university graduates, then there is no question where the people and young people will go.

[paul3390]

I've tried to arrange to go to the shooting range with our local police officer five times, but it never worked out. The last time, I called and said, "So, how's it going?" "No, I'm accompanying a patient to court for the whole day." You're the local police officer, what does court have to do with it? Well, the boss ordered it, there's no one else to do it.

Is this life?

[Gardamir]

Salaries in the fire service (EMERCOM) in Russia range from 30,000 to 150,000 rubles per month and depend on the position, length of service, region, and specifics of the service. The final income is made up of the base salary, bonuses for rank, length of service (+10% to the base salary for two years of service), and risk factors. The salary range is as follows: Entry-level employees (private): 25,000–40,000 rubles. Experienced firefighters and officers (mid-level): 45,000–70,000 rubles. Managers (watch chiefs, unit chiefs) and rescuers in the northern regions: 80,000–150,000 rubles and more.

[alexboguslavski]

Quote: Gardamir

Leaders (guard and unit commanders) and rescuers in the northern regions: 80,000–150,000 rubles and more.

Managers are required to use their hands, and not to jump into fire and risk their lives for 25-40 thousand.

[YOU]

I have friends who work there, not officers. The net salary is 50, with quarters of 80 a month (that's the average for a year). But to get there, you have to serve for 15 years to reach that salary, plus pass standards every year, etc. It's not exactly a dream, although they say you get a night on the bed. Everyone works part-time, even though it's forbidden, but young people have nowhere to go, so the bosses don't care. So they go straight to work after the day. Those with close to 20 years of service have the same salaries as I mentioned above. Young people come back after the army, hang around for a year or two, and then, when they find a job, they quit.

[Andrey Nikolaev_4]

A guy from the fire department came to work for me - 30 thousand, and there were all these hassles - regulations, inspections, alarms, and that's on top of the fires...)

[credo]

Why is there a shortage of personnel? It's the same in medicine, education, and the police...

There's a shortage of personnel everywhere and in all industries, and most likely not because there aren't enough local people, but because people don't want to work for pennies or strain themselves to earn enough, without a family or a chance at the end of the world.
Everyone wants to "work" like State Duma deputies and get paid for their work like they do now.
In general, the collapse and plunder of the country, known as "perestroika," will continue to haunt us for a long time, and there are no prospects for improving the lives of the population on the horizon.

[alex007i]

There is a shortage of personnel everywhere and in all sectors, and most likely...

They call it optimization,
Well, the Western option doesn't work for us.
Everything started along the feminine line, even with the reform of the police force.
We see the results.
Go ask who.

[Silver99]

They give you a uniform, rations, and you can sleep as much as you want, but if there's a fire, you might as well quit.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: Murmur 55

And why don't people want to work in the Fire Department? Why is there a shortage of personnel? It's the same in healthcare, education, and the police. And yet these are vital services.

Hello, why aren't there enough? Because salaries aren't keeping up with inflation, and secondly, the police, for example, have excessively high requirements: a mandatory law degree, plus passing a district military medical examination.
Previously, the police accepted officers into positions with just a higher education or a diploma from a technical school,
This doesn't work now.
They hire people without a law degree to work in the patrol and post service, but the salary there is so low you wouldn't wish it on all your enemies.
I personally had to deal with a candidate for the patrol and post service of the District Department of Internal Affairs not long ago, and the probationary period is six months, during which time the salary is at the level of the minimum wage.
At the end of the probationary period, wages will not be compensated for these six months.
Previously, the probationary period was much shorter; in the first half of the 90s, it was one month. Closer to 2000, the probationary period was increased to three months. I repeat that after this period, unpaid money was returned.

[Machito]

Will 4000 Ministry of Emergency Situations personnel be enough to extinguish fires at Russian fuel and energy companies?
It will not be enough.

[knn54]

Alexander, the risks, responsibility, and practically irregular working hours do not correspond to the proposed salaries, not at all.
And the technology “froze” somewhere in the 90s.

[Dmitry Mikhailovich Seregin]

Increasing staffing levels won't solve the staffing shortage. Nowhere. The shortage rate will only increase.

[Mini Mokik]

I'm curious about something else. Why does Putin decide these issues, and not Mishustin? The president is the outsider, the prime minister is the insider. Isn't that right? 🤔

[Vladimirsky]

The Ministry of Emergency Situations is a law enforcement agency. Mishustin isn't allowed to make decisions there...

[Sergej1972]

As a member of the Security Council, he participates in discussions on the work of law enforcement agencies. He is also responsible for their logistical support.

[Dmitry Mikhailovich Seregin]

Well, apparently the protocol requires the President's signature on such a document. That doesn't mean he decides for himself how much and when to increase it.

[Sergej1972]

The Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the Federal Security Service (FSB) report directly to the president, although their heads are members of the government. While deputy prime ministers and most ministers are now approved by the State Duma, candidates for ministerial posts in the presidential bloc are considered by the Federation Council. Moreover, the president may or may not take the opinions of senators into account.

[faiver]

Moreover, the president may or may not take into account the opinion of the senators.

- not only senators, but everyone else too

[Takeshi Kitano]

He keeps all the security agencies under his control. All the generals are appointed solely by Putin. Mishustin only deals with the economy.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Takeshi Kitano

All generals are appointed only by Putin.

as well as the judges...

[crown1992]

The department now has 307101 full-time positions.

Incredible precision! So 307100 isn't enough, and 307102 is way too much... That's some serious depth to the problem.

[Old77]

Since 2007, the fire department has been divided into officers (those in uniform) and civilians, with both working according to the orders of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. However, officers cannot retire during the grace period that officers receive. In short, we have a situation like this: 28 years in the fire department, the officer himself retired under the grace period 14 years ago. The personnel shortage is severe. Five officers cover half the city, while the rest of the territory is a neighboring fire station, and three officers are a blessing.

[axren1]

Let Psak send his guy to the fire department, otherwise he's already acting like a guarantor - he talks a lot and is ready to kiss the redhead in the ass.

[alex007i]

Vladimir Putin increased the number of personnel in the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

Looks like he finally figured out what to do with the Amur tigers.

[Seal]

The situation is worst in the capital.

I personally knew Zhenya Chernyshev. He contacted me back in 2003, and once we met, he apparently respected me and wrote down in my notebook, with his own handwriting, about five of his various phone numbers, including a couple of cell phones, a home phone... He was a wonderful man. He had the right background. He preferred not to complain about problems. He hoped for the best. But I saw that he had to do a lot himself. He conducted many training exercises personally. And he often went into the fire himself (not during training). So, during that fire, when a business center on 2nd Khutorskaya Street in Moscow caught fire on March 20, 2010, Evgeny went into the fire himself. Several times, in fact. And he stayed there. And by that time, he had already been the head of the Firefighting Service of the Federal Fire Service of the Crisis Management Center of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia for the city of Moscow for eight years. That is, the main firefighting officer in Moscow.

[Atlant83]

An extra 4K will save the whole world, but wages will decrease.

[Vladimirsky]

Well, it's clear why there's a shortage in Moscow. A Muscovite would rather work in an office than sniff smoke for pennies. There, a metro driver's assistant earns more in his first year than a rescue worker with 10 years of experience. But in the Vladimir region, the shortage is probably because people went to work in Moscow—they get a bonus there, and anyway, Moscow isn't Russia.

[Blackbeard]

The head of one of the bank's departments came to our work and laughed at us because her cleaning lady earned more - 80k

[Aag]

It sounds like that joke: "Steam locomotive, stop! One, two! "...
Yeah. Some of my friends and colleagues work there – retired military personnel (whoever's still healthy enough...). Security guards, the Ministry of Emergency Situations...
The task, the demands are ever greater, - the salary is already less than that of private security guards...

[UAZ 452]

The main goal of the staffing review at the Ministry of Emergency Situations is to fill staffing gaps in the federal fire service. According to March data, the staffing shortage there has exceeded 20% and remains negative.

I can't understand how a personnel shortage, when 20% of existing staff positions are vacant, can be addressed by increasing the overall number of vacancies? And how, out of the 8 existing military personnel in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, 7 can be allocated to reinforcing the fire department? And what about the Ministry of Emergency Situations' other functions?

[Melior]

What really got to me was that out of 300,000, only 8,000 were military personnel, meaning those who put out fires, while the rest were just "providing"!

[mz]

Quote: Melior

What really got to me was that out of 300,000, only 8,000 were military personnel, meaning those who put out fires, while the rest were just "providing"!

No, these 8000 service members are separate "Rescue Military Units." The rest of the Ministry of Emergency Situations personnel, including those who go into fires, are not military personnel. And, for example, a captain or major of the Ministry of Emergency Situations (a guard commander, for example) would become a private if they were to join the Russian Armed Forces.

[Glenn]

I work for the Ministry of Emergency Situations, I get the minimum wage, my boss is a senior lieutenant and gets 50k, there are no people at all!!

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: Bearded

Will 4000 Ministry of Emergency Situations personnel be enough to extinguish fires at Russian fuel and energy companies?
It will not be enough.

Hi, you've got it right. It would probably be more profitable to revive the Nizhny Novgorod Anti-Aircraft Missile School and build another new military school of the same profile.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: Sergej1972

The Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the Federal Security Service (FSB) report directly to the president, although their heads are members of the government. While deputy prime ministers and most ministers are now approved by the State Duma, candidates for ministerial posts in the presidential bloc are considered by the Federation Council. Moreover, the president may or may not take the opinions of senators into account.

Hello, you have a good command of Russian constitutional law.
Plus my

[Ivan№One]

Are there people for these positions?

[miry_mir]

In the early 90s, I joined the fire department. My first salary was a mere 50 rubles, while squad leaders were earning 170-190 rubles. I had to work part-time, especially because I didn't get paid for six months, and when I did, it was for just one month, and inflation turned that money into pennies. But everyone worked part-time. Few people left, since you could retire after 20 years of service. Then things improved a bit, and now I'm retired. But it's a shame about the fire department—they broke and destroyed everything.