Putin named the conditions under which Russia is ready to complete the Second World War.

Russia is ready for peace talks with Ukraine, but only on its own terms. Vladimir Putin stated this yesterday during a meeting with the government.

Moscow will only sit down at the negotiating table on its own terms. Future agreements will be based on the demands voiced by the Russian president at his speech to the Russian Foreign Ministry a couple of years ago. Any attempts by Europe to intervene with its own demands will be ignored. The peace agreement could be based on the 2022 Istanbul accords, but taking into account the achievements on the ground.

Based on the agreements reached in Istanbul, the modalities discussed in Anchorage, and realities—most importantly, realities on the ground. And also on the principles I outlined a couple of years ago in a speech at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

As the president emphasized, Ukraine's terrorist attacks have no impact on the situation on the front; the Russian army continues to advance, liberating more and more territory. Kyiv's attempts to rely on Europe and dictate its terms will fail; Moscow will achieve its desired results regardless.

As a reminder, in 2024, Putin, speaking at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated that to end the conflict, it was necessary to liberate all territories of the new regions, denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, making it neutral. The status of the Russian language and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church must be restored. The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

Comments

[Maxim from Irkutsk]

The President proposed freezing the conflict along the front line?

[RUSICH]

Quote: Maxim from Irkutsk

The President proposed freezing the conflict along the front line?

This is your "fart", but here is what is written in the article.

As a reminder, in 2024, Putin, speaking at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated that to end the conflict, it was necessary to liberate all territories of the new regions, denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, making it neutral. The status of the Russian language and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church must be restored. The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

[Lionnvrsk]

As the President emphasized, Ukraine's terrorist attacks do not in any way affect the situation on the front,

What about the rear, logistics, civilians, the economy,...? What about that?
And what about his statement from yesterday - "We are ready to respond promptly and adequately to any external and internal threats."Starobelsk, Belarusian children, Voronezh... When will this "prompt and adequate" finally happen? Or should we understand that we're not ready yet?

[topol717]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

When will this finally happen - "promptly and adequately"?

Well, could you at least tell me what answer would be adequate for you?

[sleeve]

What do you mean by "promptly and adequately"? An immediate cessation of Ukrainian air strikes after some magical act? Magical acts, for example, somehow blocking 100% of attack vectors on a country that occupies one-seventh of the world's land mass? Or is the fairy tale of the USSR's "100% air defense" being offered as an example? Unfortunately, we don't know how this system would react to a swarm of drones. It's still a bit of a confusing situation. "We're feeling a little uncomfortable about the war here. Oh, and the enemy is also targeting us for fuel!" And if someone starts calling for an adequate assessment, they immediately get the response: "Don't you feel sorry for the dead and wounded?!" It's a shame, but, damn it, it's war. And not just some children, but a fully European power with a population of 40 million, an industry, and an army chock-full of Soviet weaponry, and now NATO weapons, too. How was she supposed to look at it? Like the push of a button?

[FoBoss_VM]

Yes, he talks well, we all know that, but what does he actually do? These are two different, and in his case, even contradictory, things. That's the problem. And the gentleman from Irkutsk is talking about precisely this, because having repeatedly compromised himself with lies, there's no trust in him. Starobelsk and, recently, Voronezh are simply screaming and bleeding, but at the SPIEF, everything is fine; the country is seeing economic growth and the modalities of Anchorage. I'm afraid when he comes down from his heavenly realm, it will be too late, not just for him, but for all of us.

[Hey]

Starobelsk and, more recently, Voronezh are simply screaming and oozing blood.

But Bryansk, with its same factory and the same victims, is already forgotten. Don't worry, Starobelsk and Voronezh will be forgotten too. The time will come, and everything will settle down. The elections will be over, you won't go, they'll elect themselves again, and you'll continue to lament.

[FoBoss_VM]

I never miss elections, not to the local legislative assembly, and especially not to the presidential ones. So, your stone is not in my garden, I have fulfilled my civic duty.

[Unknown]

Quote: MUD

The elections will take place, you will not go to them, they will elect themselves again and you will continue to lament.

Be sure to go, like in the old days, “Vote or lose” and...........they will elect themselves again. Home voter turnout, and they'll count it as it should be. Although, according to the new law, you won't even be able to vote with your feet. The elections will take place regardless of turnout—the 2006 law doesn't invalidate them for low voter turnout, even if only one voter shows up at the polling station. So United Russia got busy; vote or not, you'll still get a pittance. But still, low turnout. you can't hide it.

[Frank Muller]

I believe they've already "elected" themselves thanks to the established system of "advancement" (that is, confirming in advance the achievement of their goals), and their enthusiastic supporters can send them their congratulations. Also in advance.

[Prometey]

Quote: MUD

The elections will take place, you will not go to them, they will elect themselves again and you will continue to lament.

I think that the country and the current government will not survive until the elections.

[SEVERIN]

There will be elections, you won't go to them, they will elect themselves again and you will continue to lament

- Do you think that if we go to the elections, they won't elect themselves? - You're so naive, they've already elected themselves many times, using very sophisticated and inventive technologies. - I used to go to the elections... - then I stopped.

[Rusfaner]

"...when he descends from his heavens to earth it will be too late, but not only for him, but for all of us." (c)

My grandfather, a WWI veteran, had the most derogatory word for a person: "Chatterbox!"

[gsev]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

Starobelsk and, more recently, Voronezh are simply screaming and oozing blood.

The army suffers far greater losses than the rear. Moreover, Russia must prioritize the destruction of Ukraine's military force rather than attacking civilian targets at the expense of that force. It makes sense to target the energy sector, chemical industry, and transport. It's worth noting that repairing the Zatoka bridge cost the Ukrainian budget 10 million rubles, even though some of the munitions used against it cost as much as 100 million. The main thing is to eliminate as many Ukrainians as possible. Denazification will only get off the ground when 20% of the Ukrainian male population, foolish enough to drive Russians out of Donbas and Crimea, is dead.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Maxim from Irkutsk

The President proposed freezing the conflict along the front line?

Quote: Rusich

This is your "fart", but here is what is written in the article.

(Well, it's written on the fence
...)

Quote: Rusich

Let us recall that in 2024, Putin, speaking at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated that in order to end the conflict it was necessary liberate all territories of the new regions

which lately he prefers not to even mention in public...!

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

Yes, he speaks well, we all know that, but what does he do? These are two different, and in his case, even opposite, things. That's the problem.

but this is already a more accurate observation!!

Increasing the retirement age - never!

"Kill the terrorists and throw them in the toilet." Or in practice... appoint one of them to lead "fire republic", giving him carte blanche in relation to the rest of the formations.
Afterwards, cherish and pamper him for a long time (to the point of allowing his men to kidnap people, even in Moscow ...). and only a long time later, noticing that many members of Ramzan's family had become so rich that they were no longer embarrassed to invest "my own considerable money", behind his back in business in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (!), come to his senses a little, and "push aside the overfed oprichnik," and hint to him through the accident of his son-heir that not only his father was mortal...

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

...since having repeatedly compromised himself with lies, there is no faith in him.

like with "sugar in Ryazan"?!

[guest]

Quote: Rusich

The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

And how can this be achieved through negotiations?

[Mikhail B]

New regions are mentioned here, but only part of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions on the other side of the Dnieper. So, if this is a necessary condition for peace, then it's not on the cards anytime soon.

[saigon]

To be honest, I don't listen to him. What he says is uninteresting, and I can't see what he's doing. I'm waiting for one more phrase, like Boris Yeltsin's drunkard, to say, "I'm tired, I'm leaving." Alas, nothing but failures in everything.

[Vladimir M]

He can't allow himself to follow the example of Borka the alcoholic... and there's no practical sense in that anymore, unfortunately the time has been lost.

[Vladimir M]

Following Borka the alcoholic's "example" is like signing a "death warrant" for yourself and your family. With such "transferred comrades," it couldn't be any other way.
And there's no way to change anything now, no matter who takes his place. Time has passed. It's simply not possible to "stop and turn around" anymore...

[Civil]

Quote: Vladimir M

And it’s impossible to change anything now, no matter who comes to take his place, time has been lost.

How disgusting and sad that you are right.

[Vladimir M]

Unfortunately, we will have to "go this way to the end" and only then will we "find the right road."

[topol717]

How many CIPSOTs are there on this site?

[Montezuma]

Quote from: topol717

How many CIPSOTs are there on this site?

And not only that. I also watch discussions of VVP's actions on Ukrainian channels and compare some of the comments about him there and here. The only noticeable difference is the use of obscene language (they don't prohibit it) and death wishes, widely used by Ukrainian Nazis on their channels. One can't help but conclude that these are the same people.

[Major_Tom]

Yes, yes, everyone who disagrees with the actions (or rather, inactions) of Putin and doesn't bow to the portrait of the Sun-Faced One is a tsipsota. Absolutely everyone, enemies everywhere. It's terrifying!)

[guest]

Quote: Vladimir M

Well, it won't be possible to just "stop and turn the other way"

What do you mean by "stop" and which way to turn?

[Vladimir M]

Hasn't the last 30 years shown that we are heading in the wrong direction?
If you're going in the wrong direction, you need to change direction. But first, you need to stop and decide where and why.

[guest]

Quote: Vladimir M

But first we need to stop and decide where and why.

But if you are walking along a fairly busy roadway, then stopping would not be particularly smart.

[Vladimir M]

So, first of all, you need to get off the busy roadway, stop and think about where and why you are going.
By the way, even He Himself admitted that they were going somewhere wrong.

[guest]

Quote: Vladimir M

So, first you need to get off the busy roadway.

But they won’t let us do this either.

[Vladimir M]

It is not correct to blame only the "Englishwoman" for the fact that they won't give it to us.
This means we will continue to fall to the bottom, which is what is happening now.
That's why I wrote that it will no longer be possible to change direction until we reach the bottom.

[Sensor]

But if you are walking along a fairly busy roadway, then stopping would not be particularly smart.

And to continue moving, hung with strict definitions, is clearly a manifestation of deep knowledge of the processes taking place.

[Sergei Fonov]

"But if you're walking along a fairly busy roadway, stopping wouldn't be particularly smart."
It's not very smart for pedestrians to walk along a rather busy roadway.

[RUSICH]

Quote: saigon

I'm waiting for one of Boris Yeltsin's Pianoto phrases, like "I'm tired, I'm leaving."

Yeltsin didn't say that. You're quoting the old ladies at the entrance.

Today, on the last day of the outgoing century, I resign.
I'm leaving. I'm leaving before the appointed time.
I'm leaving. I've done all I could.

These are the words he spoke

[tank_killer156]

Let him say the last thing you wrote.

[/quote]I'm leaving. I've done all I could.[quote]

I think people won't be against it.

[Sergei Fonov]

"I'm leaving. I've done all I could."

I wonder to whom these words were addressed? To an impoverished, hungry country? Or to his entourage, who became the "elite" during his reign.

[gsev]

Quote: saigon

Unfortunately, there are only failures in everything.

The liberation of Crimea and Donbas alone has made Putin a more successful leader of Russia than, say, Peter the Great. Fighting against Ukraine under Russia's savage capitalism is no easier than fighting Sweden in the 18th century. Putin simply needs to encourage the power vertical to produce drones instead of landscaping and replacing curbs and paving stones, and promptly dismiss those who are slow to adapt.

[Tantalum]

He's been talking a lot lately. What could this mean?

[tank_killer156]

You'll live to be 74, and you won't talk like that. You've become sentimental, old age, and you don't have the grip you once had. That's where we have problems. Let him say, "I'm leaving." I did everything I could.

[tank_killer156]

So, these are the power lovers. Apparently, Zipso pays for positive comments online. Are you satisfied with the GDP, or are you afraid of losing something in life? Apparently, the government, or under this government, has increased its wealth. Everything in life changes, including the government, but then it will be difficult for some (MINUS lickers).

[populist]

The rating is approaching zero and is going down the drain. So they're releasing it to boost it a little.

[tralflot1832]

It is fantastic that Ukraine will sit down at the negotiating table on Russia's terms - they will play the same old refrain: "Russia is not showing a sincere desire to start negotiations."

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: tralflot1832

they'll play a broken record

Well, we can do that too -
Lavrov: "I don't even want to suspect that Alaska, like the actions of European countries, was designed to buy time for the Kyiv regime to arm itself. But in reality, it turned out the way it did."
It turns out they cheated us again. They cheated us here, they lied there.

[Gomunkul]

It turns out they cheated us again. They cheated us here, they lied there.

Why are you surprised that our political leadership agreed to play "Fool" with former Western partners? What will be the end result?

[Ponimatel]

in "Throw-in Fool",

In the Inflatable Fool.

[Sedov]

The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

Maybe it's time to start tearing it down? Then it'll be easier to achieve the rest of our goals.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Sedov

The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

Maybe it's time to start tearing it down? And then it will be easier with the rest of the goals.

Well, the demolition started back on February 24, 2022. The only question is, why are we demolishing it so "shyly"?
In 4 years, nothing but a Phillips screwdriver and an AA battery should be left of the industry and power generation there, but they are mass-producing rockets and drones.

[Sedov]

Well, the demolition started back on February 24, 2022. The only question is, why are we demolishing it so "shyly"?

Dmitry, In this context, I'd put "demolition" in quotation marks, too. Doesn't even a judoka understand that this regime shouldn't even breathe? That the succession of power in Ukraine should be so dangerous? And that the mere thought of becoming president of Ukraine was so terrifying? There should either be a pro-Russian government there, or no government at all? But he's probably still afraid for his own life and the lives of his cronies.

[belost79]

Am I correct in assuming they departed from the Anchorage agreements? They only discussed Donbas, and apparently, no clear, open statements were ever made.
Under current conditions, to achieve the stated goals, we must wage a real war without any restrictions. And that's hard to believe.

[Red Hemi]

So a year has already passed since Anchorage.
Time goes by, but Slavyansk and Kramatorsk are still standing.
Or will the Americans wait until Donbass is completely returned to its native harbor, and then freeze the conflict?
It is not even funny.
The issue of access to the DPR borders had to be resolved that year.
And since this didn’t happen, what kind of Anchorage can we talk about?

[Vladimir M]

Based on the agreements reached in Istanbul, based on the modalities discussed in Anchorage, and realities, most importantly, realities on the ground.

It is precisely the fixed matches based on Istanbul and Ankor that are most frightening.

[Victor B]

Istanbul and Anchorage were dubious achievements, but the "realities on the ground" are even more frightening. If things continue like this, we'll have to retreat from Istanbul and Anchorage, too.

[Same lech]

I am against the Istanbul deal and do not understand such a modality base in Anchorage.

decoding the word "modality".
1 is the primary perception channel (visual, auditory, tactile)
2 is a way, a mode of being. More specifically, it is a branch of practical psychology.

Finally reveal the terms of the separate deal with Trump in Anchorage...what
are you hiding something...what are you afraid of?

[Rosemary]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Finally reveal the terms of the separate deal with Trump in Anchorage...what
are you hiding something...what are you afraid of?

So the conditions have long been known:

Anchorage's key points:
Russia gains full control over the entire Donbass.
▪️The Ukrainian Armed Forces are withdrawing from the areas of Donbas they hold.
▪️Freezing the current front line in other directions (south, east, Kharkiv and Zaporizhzhia).
▪️Crimea and other new territories are considered Russian, but are not officially recognized as Russian by Ukraine or the West, but are not disputed either.

Status of Ukraine:
▪️Permanent neutrality and non-aligned status (enshrined in the Constitution).
▪️Rejection of membership in NATO and any military alliances.
▪️A ban on the deployment of foreign military bases, contingents, and strike weapons on its territory.
▪️Limitation of the armed forces of Ukraine - strict maximum numbers of personnel, equipment, artillery and missiles.
▪️Limiting Western military aid - only with Russia's consent.

Sanctions and the economy
▪️Phased or complete mutual cessation of restrictive measures introduced after 2014.

Guarantees and other points
▪️International or bilateral security guarantees (with US participation).
▪️Protection of the rights of the Russian-speaking population, the status of the Russian language on par with Ukrainian

[Gardamir]

You have kept silent about the economic points.

Point 13: Gradually lifting international sanctions against Russia in parallel with the implementation of the points of the agreement. Point 14: Russia's return to the G8. Point 15: Creation of an international fund for the recovery of Ukraine with the financial participation of the United States, the EU, and frozen assets of the Russian Federation (subject to agreement). Point 16: Unblocking logistics routes, Black Sea ports, and resumption of commercial air traffic in the region.

[snow mountain]

Moscow will achieve the results it needs in any case

It will. But at what cost!

[Dedok]

Putin named the conditions under which Russia is ready to complete the Second World War.

Katz offers to give up ...

[tatra]

What is the point of issuing the same ultimatums 100 times, which those to whom he issues them have refused to comply 100 times?

[Vyacheslav Boldyrev]

The judo philosophy espoused by our intelligence president hasn't yielded any results yet.
Time will tell whether this is the right tactic and whether the plan we are following is truly brilliant.
But the fact that endless escalation will end in nuclear strikes, and not only against Ukraine, is unavoidable!
This is the logic of how events unfold.
Endless concessions and begging for negotiations have provoked the enemy to have the illusion of permissiveness.
And now we are reaping the benefits.
How long ?!

[Boris Sergeev]

Unfortunately, there's no certainty that the Russian leadership will respond even to a nuclear strike on the country. The commander-in-chief studiously ignores Voronezh, for example.

[Dedok]

The commander-in-chief diligently ignores Voronezh, for example.

and did he hear about it?
Here's some info:

Former Rossiya-1 editor-in-chief Skorobutov recounted how, for nearly 15 years, individual newscasts were edited for Vladimir Putin. This occurred after the Bolotnaya Square protests in 2011.
At 20 p.m., a regular episode of Vesti aired on Russia-1, after which the production crew remained at their stations and, as instructed, re-edited the final episode—what news to add, what to embellish, where to remove, in order to show Putin the desired picture of a prosperous country. Now the president is getting even less of a real picture. He probably knows less about the situation on the front than we do..

https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/15_06_2026_video_padenija_bombardirovshhika_tu_22m3_vojna_na_ukraine_svezhaja_podborka_udarov_po_pekhote_vsu_s_fatalnym_itogom_16_video/60-1-0-17671

[plant15]

It's the fifth year. Isn't it time yet?
Well, OK.
Russia must prepare for a long war—several years or even a couple of decades. Moreover, during the active phase, the fighting may shift to other regions, but this will not change the essence of the situation. The country will live in a state of permanent military conflict. MGIMO professor and SVR Colonel Andrei Bezrukov stated this at the SPIEF:
We will have two generations that can be considered practically at war.
https://topwar.ru/283913-polkovnik-svr-rossija-budet-voevat-esche-neskolko-desjatkov-let.html
These are the prospects for the correctness and genius of plans.
And dreams of nuclear strikes make them even stronger.
Well, what do you think? Does all this show you nothing yet?
P.S. Well, that's how it is: "Making plans for our children."

[cocks]

Abramovich is back in the picture. The Tsar has started spewing out speeches almost daily. I think it's a huge vat of shit brewing. One question remains: Who's going to feed us all this? Since they're putting him in charge. Have they really decided to dump the Tsar?

[cocks]

Quote: tatra

What is the point of issuing the same ultimatums 100 times, which those to whom he issues them have refused to comply 100 times?

An ultimatum was never issued. There were proposals, requests, menacing poses, and a red marker at the ready. The main difference between an ultimatum and a proposal is the immediate fulfillment of the threat if the requested actions are refused.
What we've been seeing for five years now resembles blackmail/bluffing at best. This is when there's an offer, a threat, and no ability or desire to carry it out.

[tatra]

Stupidity. Negotiations are when both sides make demands BUT agree to compromise on something, but he constantly issues ultimatums and believes that those to whom he issues them are obligated to fulfill them. Therefore, no one has paid attention to his ultimatums, because he has proven that he is not willing to negotiate properly.

[Rosemary]

What kind of negotiations can there be if Putin continues to think that he is winning by attacking on all fronts?

[Prometey]

Quote: Rosemary

What kind of negotiations can there be if Putin continues to think that he is winning by attacking on all fronts?

Well, that's what they tell him. But he doesn't read the internet.

[Takeshi Kitano]

"But taking into account the achievements on the ground." So Moscow is proposing to end the war on the current borders of the Libyan Democratic Republic. According to the principle, whatever we take is ours. I think Ukrainians will fight for their lands for centuries. Any conversation with them will always begin with the return of their lands. They'll start writing about it in their textbooks and passing it on to future generations. This is a dead end and will lead to many years of international sanctions and isolation. That's my personal opinion.

[Mazunga]

No one will let us out of this situation. They've poured so much money into it, and most importantly, it's convenient to use nuclear weapons without any reason in the fight for forest lands. The gene pool will be decimated in ten years, and Central Asia and Afghanistan will help with the new population. It's very convenient.

[avia12005]

What idiot in the West would sit down with us for negotiations until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are defeated? This is obvious to everyone except those who are constantly being duped.

[cocks]

Quote: tatra

Stupidity

Reality.

[Smoked]

It will all be sad, with the ending, if you look at how unsuccessful and long wars happened for Tsarist Russia in the past.

[Konstantin Traflyalin]

Amazing old man, he started grumbling menacingly again. The Xoxles got scared and bombed the thermal power plant in Sevastopol.

[Rosemary]

Well, and he mentioned our offensives in all directions every single day again:
"Our guys are pressing them, pressing them at every point of combat contact. At every point! <...> The guys are hammering away there every day! Every single day!"

[al3x]

Go sign the deal already. I'm fed up with this.

[Roman Efremov]

Come on, Leader of the Nation, tear down the Nazi regime! Along with its Kyiv headquarters. Start with their leader, don't invite him to Moscow for talks. Zelensky in Moscow—is this really the disgrace we're about to endure at your behest? Even though we've already endured so much disgrace over the past four and a half years—too many to list.

[Prometey]

Quote: Roman Efremov

Although we have already experienced so much shame over these 4,5 years - it’s impossible to list them all...........

Yes, it is the most shameful war in Russian history, and an artificial shame at that.

[tatra]

No matter how and when all this ends, the results are already known - two countries and their peoples have suffered enormous damage, and on the territory of the former USSR there will be a large devastated area on which people will never live again.

[Prometey]

Quote: tatra

a destroyed territory where people will never live again

What about radioactive contamination of the area?

[Boris Sergeev]

Putin continues to talk over the heads of the Russian population, from whom both the "Istanbul agreements" and the "Anchorage understandings" are carefully concealed.

[Stas157]

Let us recall that in 2024, Putin, speaking at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated

That was before the epochal meeting in Anchorage. The spirit of Anchorage changed a lot.

[alanery]

The spirit of Anchorage already has a "whiff"... :-)

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Quote: Rusich

Quote: Maxim from Irkutsk
The President proposed freezing the conflict along the front line?

This is your "fart", but here is what is written in the article.
As a reminder, in 2024, Putin, speaking at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated that to end the conflict, it was necessary to liberate all territories of the new regions, denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, making it neutral. The status of the Russian language and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church must be restored. The neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv must be overthrown.

Explain to me, a foolish, wretched and pathetic person, how our sun-faced and god-like president is going to control/ensure the agreements, if any, are reached???
What I mean is this: let's say negotiations take place "on our terms," ​​let's say Ukraine signs some kind of agreement that stipulates non-aligned status, condemnation of Nazism, the status of the Russian language, and an army consisting of one ceremonial regiment.
European countries and the United States will act as guarantors of the agreement.
Our Putin will joyfully declare complete victory and legal guarantees, backed by the signatures of European leaders.
But in reality, more Minsk agreements are happening! No one will even formally comply with the agreement.
And then what?
Yes, Putin will declare that he was deceived... and... will he really start the war all over again??? Obviously not.
Without military bases and troops in Ukraine, will we be able to ensure the treaty's implementation? No!
So it turns out that, in reality, without the capture and annexation of Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Chernigov, Zaporizhzhia and the surrounding regions to the Russian Federation, without the physical destruction of Zelensky and the current leaders of Ukraine, without the dismemberment of Ukraine - the separation of Western Ukraine as an independent state - there can be no talk of any agreements or negotiations.

[tatra]

What you wrote in the last paragraph is unrealistic. That's why everything has reached a dead end, and the movement hasn't quite gone in the right direction.
It is high time for the enemies of the USSR to return to our reality from their Looking Glass, where everything is only as convenient and beneficial to them.

[al3x]

You understand, right, that everything you've written is simply impossible? Neither Odessa, nor Kharkiv, nor Chernihiv, nor Dnipropetrovsk, nor Zaporizhzhia, nor Kherson, nor Mykolaiv will be taken? People have been fighting for villages for months, and you're talking about cities. That won't happen. And there will be no dismemberment of Ukraine. Come on, be realistic, not fantasists. That's not even in the goals of the Joint Military Operation. The maximum we can achieve is an advance to the borders of the LPR and DPR, a freeze, and a deal. And as for me, that would be faster. It's becoming increasingly clear that the game isn't worth the candle. It's not for nothing that talk of negotiations is becoming more and more frequent...

[Boris Sergeev]

No one will negotiate with those who have been fighting for their villages for months, but they will consistently wear down those "always ready to negotiate" by taking out oil refineries and military factories, and then finish them off.

[Rosemary]

Quote: Boris Sergeev

No one will make a deal with those who have been fighting for the villages for months.

No one in front of those fighting for the villages for months capitulate will not.
And everyone is ready to end this senseless slaughter on terms acceptable to both sides. Except Putin, of course.

[Boris Sergeev]

The Russian leadership wasn't dragged into this adventure to "end it on acceptable terms." Zelenskyy, for example, would accept the return of Crimea.

[know]

Putin and Lavrov are begging for a shameful peace, which they will declare a victory – and will jail those who dare to recall the miserably failed “denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine.”

[alanery]

Hush - hush... they might come for you! :-)

[alanery]

If they are comparing the Soviet Union with the Great Patriotic War, then negotiations with Hitler would look ridiculous, after everything they did on our soil!!!

[Alexander Elizarov]

Quote: saigon

To be honest, I don't listen to him. What he says is uninteresting, and I can't see what he's doing. I'm waiting for one more phrase, like Boris Yeltsin's drunkard, to say, "I'm tired, I'm leaving." Alas, nothing but failures in everything.

"ON THE GALLEYS" they don't pay pensions, he'll row to the end

[yuriy55]

Moscow will achieve the results it needs in any case.

The only pity is to live in this beautiful time
I do not have to - neither me nor you.

And there is also this point:

With God, now we go home - congratulations!
(Hats off - if I say!)
Barrel wine workers exhibit
And I give away the arrears!..»
Someone shouted "Hurray!" and they picked it up.
Louder, friendlier, longer ... Look:
With the song, the dozens of the barrels rolled ...
Here and lazy could not resist!
Harnessed the people of horses - and the merchandise
With a cry of "Hurray!" he rushed along the road...
It seems hard to please the picture
To draw, general? ..

[PVV22121922]

"The Kremlin's 'dream team' is leading the country to collapse..."
...the Kremlin is in a stupor. They can't part with their money and property in the West, but they understand that they are the first to be destroyed. It's like a monkey unable to unclench its fist holding an orange or remove its hand from a hole. We are all fighters, the people of Russia, held hostage by a shameful, weak, spineless, and inactive Kremlin. Held hostage by a cabal of "entrepreneurs" who have seized resources, and by a Kremlin plutocracy that is no longer capable of anything...
...the day before, the Kremlin, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and Russian intelligence agencies announced that Moscow is once again ready (!!!) for negotiations with Ukraine and Europe. Military experts and journalists, commenting on these statements, noted that they were made against the backdrop of Ukrainian airstrikes on Moscow, Voronezh, and Crimea.

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Quote: al3x

You understand, right, that everything you've written is simply impossible? Neither Odessa, nor Kharkiv, nor Chernihiv, nor Dnipropetrovsk, nor Zaporizhzhia, nor Kherson, nor Mykolaiv will be taken? People have been fighting for villages for months, and you're talking about cities. That won't happen. And there will be no dismemberment of Ukraine. Come on, be realistic, not fantasists. That's not even in the goals of the Joint Military Operation. The maximum we can achieve is an advance to the borders of the LPR and DPR, a freeze, and a deal. And as for me, that would be faster. It's becoming increasingly clear that the game isn't worth the candle. It's not for nothing that talk of negotiations is becoming more and more frequent...

I don’t quite agree with you: the goals of the SVO were clearly stated to include denazification, demilitarization, and non-aligned status for Ukraine.
What I have written are the necessary elements that guarantee denazification, demilitarization, and non-aligned status for Ukraine.
Otherwise, I in no way dispute the correctness of your comment in the part where you raise the question of realism... but your comment means only one thing - we lost this war with all the ensuing consequences...
You can puff yourself up and rant as much as you like about how the Ukrainian Armed Forces' current attacks on Russia's rear won't lead to changes at the front, that we're moving forward and winning, but...
Does this mean we lost?

[Civil]

We lost this war with all the ensuing consequences.

What's the loss? We're not fighting a war, we're conducting a special operation. An operation isn't won, but stopped when necessary. This isn't a game with specific goals, but a process. And Russia will continue to stand as it has. And after us, too.

[Samoyed]

What a talented man! (And his system of power). To so ineptly waste so many opportunities for the good of the people and the country! A maker of "galoshes"!

[Silba]

Yes, in 24, the president reiterated our goals, and he also said that each subsequent demand would become more stringent. By now, we should be demanding Ukraine's complete and unconditional surrender, nothing less. However, don't forget, then there was Alaska, after which there was nothing but incomprehensible chatter. It was either the wind or the snow.
Either it will or it won't!
As for me, I should go to the elections; nothing hurts to try.

[Gunther]

Quote: Putin

...based on modalities

Was it worth passing the Law on the Russian Language to shit on the river quack?

[O. Bender]

For any state, the life of its citizens—ordinary people, so to speak—is worthless, a mere expendable resource compared to political, geopolitical, and other goals. The powerful state machine exerts indiscriminate pressure in the vast majority of cases, and sometimes even selectively when necessary to mitigate certain threats. It won't be long before the victims of Starobelsk and Luhansk will pierce the hearts of only their families and friends.

[Sergool]

It's time to understand that they don't need peace—they confirm this by not making any concessions. That's not what all this was started for.

[Andrey Mishin]

Anchorage modalities... Apparently, it's the same as the spirit of Anchorage. It's a really good word, it has many meanings, and who knows what's being said. Peskov is the acknowledged master and pioneer in using this word, and Putin liked it and plagiarized it. Since "spirit of Anchorage" can no longer be used, it's just a joke.

[bug120560]

What is particularly striking about the President's statements is his ability to speak beautifully and the sheer inflexibility with which he ensures that his words align with his actions.

[APASUS]

A strange position has surfaced again. Until someone poked us in the face, our guys were all about Anchorage. Now, the Istanbul Accords are popping up. Why? Who are we trying to convince? Zelensky can't stick to one version of events, until the end of the day, and who knows how much time has passed.