Where did the enemy tanks go? On the cost of the Red Army General Staff's analytical work on the eve of the war.

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Where did the enemy tanks go? On the cost of the Red Army General Staff's analytical work on the eve of the war.


End. Start here: Where Did the Tanks Go? The Price of Analytical Errors on the Eve of War



From data mining to data analysis


Indicative in this regard is the report of the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, B. M. Shaposhnikov, to the People's Commissar of Defense, K. E. Voroshilov, on the most likely enemies of the USSR, dated March 24, 1938. The report appeared between the Anschluss of Austria by Nazi Germany (March 13) and the plebiscite of April 10, its legal consolidation.

In his assessment of the strength of the USSR's potential adversaries, Shaposhnikov includes five Finnish divisions, four Latvian, and ten Estonian brigades as forces of significant importance on the western border. However, he remains silent about the approximately six and a half Austrian divisions (some of which were understrength). Meanwhile, in March and April 1938, it was still completely unclear what would happen to the Austrian forces. Whether they would be integrated into the Wehrmacht entirely or reformed, whether they would remain in their original positions or be redeployed, what would happen to the officer corps, and how long it would take to bring them up to German standards.

There are no references to this detail in the note. It's tempting to date the author's awareness from this omission. Had the note been dated early March, it's clear that the Austrian addition to the Wehrmacht had not yet been established; had it been dated late April, Germany's potential had already been taken into account, even with the Austrians. However, the argument is subtle, and the conclusion shouldn't be made stronger than the premise. The lack of mention could be explained more simply: Shaposhnikov may not have considered these units combat-ready at that time.

Enemy tanks: numbers and reality


In March 1938, Shaposhnikov estimated tank the potential of a potential enemy is as follows:
  • In total, Germany and Poland had 7250 tanks and tankettes, of which 6400 were against the USSR;
  • Polish component - 1450 (1300 in the East);
  • German component - 5800 (5100 in the East).

The text of the report is available at the link: A note from the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army to the USSR People's Commissar of Defense, Marshal of the Soviet Union K.E. Voroshilov, on the most likely enemies of the USSR. March 24, 1938.

Here it is important to distinguish between two concepts that are mixed up in the note itself: assessment of the enemy's full potential и a group actually deployed against the USSRIn both 1938 and June 22, 1941, the Wehrmacht deployed significantly fewer tanks against the USSR than predicted. Approximately 800 units were captured Czech tanks, which the Soviet General Staff hadn't considered part of Germany's potential before the Sudetenland Crisis. In fact, the captured tanks weren't even completed tanks, but rather technology and established production. If we compare the predicted figure for 1938 with the actual deployment in 1941 (which are different entities and have different dates), the German component of the forecast turns out to be overestimated by more than half.

The principle of "better to overestimate the enemy's strength than your own" was a common international practice during the interwar period: both the French and British General Staffs were guilty of overestimating their forces. The question is different. What resources were other areas of defense missing due to the concentration of funding on specific areas of tank production—training drivers and tank commanders, producing tankers, and producing ammunition?

A telling example involves radio communications, which concerns not enemy assessments but rather priorities within the production itself. The production of radio-equipped T-26 tanks at Voroshilov Plant No. 174 looked like this:
  • 1933 — 152;
  • 1934 — 467;
  • 1935 — 492;
  • 1936 — 545;
  • 1937 — 204 (decline due to repressions at the plant, problems with the armor of the Izhora plant and the transition to a conical turret);
  • 1938 — 355;
  • 1939 — 700;
  • 1940 - 813.

At the same time, radio-equipped tanks accounted for only slightly more than a third of the total production of single-turret T-26s. Not every platoon of new T-26s had more than one tank equipped with a radio and antenna. The important thing was that the tank could drive and fire; crew coordination was secondary.


A marching column of Polish light tanks Vickers Mark E type B (single-turret) and A (twin-turret, in the background) on parade at a training ground during pre-war exercises.

Where did the Polish "fifteen hundred" come from?


Perhaps the information on Polish armored vehicles was more accurate? Within foreign intelligence, the Polish sector was the only one assigned to a separate "national" sector, meaning it was assigned to a specific country rather than a specific function. However, the information was inaccurate. By September 1, 1939, the Polish tank fleet consisted of:
  • 38 British Vickers;
  • about 132 of our own 7TPs, some of which were produced after Shaposhnikov’s report;
  • about 102 French Renault FT-17s from the First World War (some of them training or used as obstacles).

The Poles did indeed possess several hundred TK-3 and TKS tankettes. But where does the figure of 1450 come from? It comes from adding almost 600 tankettes, old armored cars (wz.28, wz.29, wz.34), and training vehicles to the actual tanks (including the French R-35s (approximately 49-53 vehicles), and a total of about 310-320).

In other words, the planning was based not on an estimate of a full-fledged tank fleet, but on a gross figure of "all armored vehicles," which obscures the true combat value of the Polish forces. This indicates either an error in the calculation methodology or an uncritical use of inflated intelligence data, which, apparently, had not been revised for several years. At the turn of 1937–1938, Soviet intelligence services were more preoccupied with other matters: the kidnapping of the White émigré General E. Miller and the liquidation of defectors and the leader of Ukrainian nationalists, E. Konovalets, abroad.


A 7TP light tank with a 37mm gun captured by the Wehrmacht during the Polish campaign.

General Staff analysis: the cart is before the horse


The General Staff's own analytical work deserves special attention, regardless of intelligence information. The memorandum was preceded by a plan for the development of the Red Army for the third five-year plan, submitted to Stalin in November 1937 and jointly signed by Voroshilov and Shaposhnikov. The order of events is noteworthy. The Red Army leadership first outlined the areas for upgrading the army and outlined the tasks of the military-industrial complex, including the tank industry. Only several months later did it begin assessing the potential of the potential adversaries against whom these measures would be directed. The cart had gotten before the horse.

Formally, this arrangement wasn't an anomaly for the 1930s: military planning at that time was often iterative and based primarily on the internal capabilities of industry. But in this case, the problem lay elsewhere. When Voroshilov presented the plan to Stalin, he didn't yet know the specific "goals" for which it was intended, and so there was nothing to compare the scale of the rearmament to.

Among the armored vehicle development measures, the People's Commissar and the head of the General Staff planned to form nine heavy tank brigades of the General Command Reserve, using multi-turreted T-28 or T-35 tanks, by 1942, replacing the four existing ones. According to the organization chart, each brigade was to have either 94 T-35s or 136 T-28s.

Meanwhile, during the previous five-year plan, by the end of 1937, the tank industry had produced 44 T-35s and approximately 270 T-28s. In 1937, their production fell by half: factories were halfway behind plan and were also wasting resources on repairing previously produced vehicles. This equipment was sufficient for less than 2,5 heavy brigades, and the shortage of existing units was approximately 40%. By May 1940, when Voroshilov handed over his post to Timoshenko, the number of heavy brigades had not increased, only the manning of the existing ones.

Did Voroshilov and Shaposhnikov (by then, Khalepsky, Tukhachevsky, and Eideman were all dead) understand that industry wouldn't be able to fulfill these plans without ceasing production of other models, like the T-26? And why so many old tanks in such a short time, if already in March 1938, Shaposhnikov assessed the Soviet advantage in tanks as "unconditional"?


A Soviet T-35 tank abandoned due to a malfunction in the village of Ozhydiv, Busk district, Lviv region.

Quality vs. Quantity


The latter conclusion, reached in 1938, two years before the T-34's appearance, could be disputed, at least in terms of quality. On the battlefield, Soviet tankers only truly appreciated the potential of the machine-gun-equipped Pz.Kpfw.I, which they encountered in Spain—the very same one that Guderian characterized as a training vehicle and never intended for combat use. Development of the Pz.Kpfw.III and Pz.Kpfw.IV had begun shortly before, and the BT-7 and T-28 were nominally not significantly inferior to early German tanks in armament and mobility.

What Soviet analysts failed to take into account, given their data on the "Three" and "Four" tanks (which intelligence had been using as early as 1935), was perhaps the most important thing. The German models had a huge potential for modernization, allowing them to become the Wehrmacht's most widely produced tanks. The similar potential of the BT and T-28, not to mention the T-26 and T-35, was virtually exhausted by 1938.

Two years later, the USSR officially acquired the Pz.Kpfw.III from Germany. The Germans, even as they prepared for an attack, sold it to their potential enemy without apparent regret. This was one of the last "troikas" still armed with a short-barreled 50mm gun, less advanced than the later Pz.IIIs with long-barreled L/42 = KwK 38, L/60 = KwK 39, which would attack the Soviet border a year later. The Soviet leadership clearly underestimated the rapid improvement of enemy vehicles. Against this backdrop, the production of hundreds of T-28s in 1938–1940 appears unpromising, and the many thousands of T-26s (production at Leningrad factories peaked in 1940, already with the T-34 and KV) appear strategically questionable.

To be fair, there were objective reasons for continuing production of the T-26 and T-28: established production capacity, trained personnel, and the need to have at least some equipment before mass-producing the T-34 and KV tanks. The problem was not only the inflated enemy data but also the inertia of well-established production. Nevertheless, relying on mass production of obsolete models proved costly in 1941.


KV-1 heavy tanks pass through Pushkin Square in Moscow after a military parade, heading to the front.

From 1938 to 1940: the same pattern


A logical question arises: how could officials who underestimated the capabilities of their own tank industry make reliable forecasts of enemy forces? The documents signed by Shaposhnikov are not the only example.

In September 1940, a report similar to the March 1938 one was written to Stalin by People's Commissar of Defense S. Timoshenko, who replaced Voroshilov after the Finnish campaign, and the new Chief of the General Staff, K. Meretskov. The figure of 10,000 German tanks, announced at the end of 1940, was also exaggerated by almost three times. According to the author, this figure is calculated by adding hypothetical captured Czech, Polish, and French tanks, as well as domestic German production over the previous two and a half years, to the 5800 units from the 1938 report. This is a reconstruction, not an established fact: it seems the analysts were working from a well-worn template.

What's inexplicable is something else. Having assessed the Hungarian and Romanian tanks, Timoshenko and Meretskov left the Finnish tanks in the "tanks" column blank. They count Hungarian, Romanian, and Finnish divisions, specifically 250 Romanian and 300 Hungarian tanks. The estimate of Finnish potential, compared to 1938, has increased from 5 to 15-18 divisions, yet the "tanks" column remains blank.

Meanwhile, as early as 1941, up to a hundred Finnish tanks would attack the Soviet border from Finland. And these vehicles weren't purchased from the Swedes or Germans. They were refurbished captured Soviet T-26, T-28, T-37, and T-38 tanks, as well as a smaller number of previously purchased Vickers tanks with turrets and guns from captured Soviet donor tanks.

Finnish tanks: a figure that could be calculated


What did Timoshenko need to avoid leaving a blank in the "Finnish tanks" column? Neither modern hindsight nor even intelligence assistance. To assess Finland's armored potential, two steps were sufficient: counting its own tank losses in the recent conflict and subtracting the vehicles evacuated to the rear and the wrecks accounted for in liberated territory. The remainder is a figure close to the actual force.

Let's be clear: the computability of the data doesn't necessarily mean the General Staff had a streamlined procedure for such recalculation at the right moment. Still, the arithmetic was manageable. In 1939–1940, Finnish repair shops (Panssarikeskuskorjaamo in Varkaus) received up to 130 units of damaged Soviet equipment. Eighty-six of these, after repairs and "cannibalization" (assembling a single serviceable vehicle from several damaged ones), replenished Finnish units, while the rest became spare parts donors. This is not a figure that can be dismissed as insignificant: Timoshenko estimates Romanian and Hungarian tanks to be multiples of fifty, meaning anything over fifty is significant for him. Essentially, the Finnish campaign turned into an operation for the USSR to arm a small neighboring country on the eve of the main battle.

This raises another question. Why didn't the Red Army leadership insist on including a separate clause in the Moscow Peace Treaty of 1940 requiring the Finnish side to return captured Soviet equipment, just as prisoners of war were returned? Or at least document the locations of the lost vehicles through bilateral commissions, with photographs? This equipment required the labor of thousands of Soviet workers.


Finnish tank crews pose for a photo on the armor of a captured T-28 tank.

Hanko: Tanks with nowhere to advance


Another "tank" illustration of the Soviet Union's attitude toward resources. Following the Finnish campaign, the USSR leased the Hanko Peninsula and established a naval base there. Its main objective was to control the passage to the Gulf of Finland, which was over 70 kilometers wide. After Finland was defeated again in 1944, the base was moved from Hanko to Porkkala, almost 100 kilometers closer to Leningrad and Helsinki, where the gulf was 20 kilometers narrower. This indirectly acknowledged the less-than-ideal initial choice.

In 1941, the base included a separate tank battalion attached to the 8th Separate Rifle Brigade of Colonel N.P. Simonyak, with approximately 47 serviceable vehicles as of June 1941. These were primarily light T-26 tanks (including radio-equipped and twin-turreted tanks), several amphibious T-37A/T-38 tanks, and armored cars. This is comparable to the entire actual Finnish tank force of 1941 and certainly greater than the zero estimated by Timoshenko.

Tanks were of no use in controlling the entrance to the bay, except during the coldest winters on thick ice. They were also a mediocre means of land defense: no better than a 45mm anti-tank gun, which, while performing a comparable firepower, weighs much less (the T-26 weighs about 10 tons versus the gun's half-ton). The tanks' standard role was to support infantry in an offensive. But the 2,3-kilometer width of the isthmus severely limited their offensive maneuverability on Hanko. The battalion's deployment also had a justifying rationale: an isolated base needed mobile fire support in the event of an amphibious landing, and tanks could have been conceived as precisely that. Yet, the purpose of amphibious reconnaissance tanks remains unclear. Regardless, the equipment took up space in hangars, time in workshops, and tonnage on the Baltic Fleet's transport vessels. During the evacuation in the autumn of 1941, 26 vehicles were taken back to Kronstadt and Leningrad, probably along with ammunition and fuel.


Finnish tank crews service captured Soviet HT-133 and T-26 tanks.

Where did the enemy tanks go?


The question posed in the title didn't remain unanswered for long. The Sovinformburo's summary of the two months of war was prepared on the evening of August 22, 1941, and on August 23, it was published in major newspapers—Pravda, Izvestia, and Krasnaya Zvezda. Refuting German propaganda about Soviet losses, the summary stated:

“German propaganda cites such fantastic figures for our losses: 14,000 tanks, 14,000 guns... In fact, in two months of war... the German fascist troops lost more than 8000 tanks, about 10,000 guns and over 7200 aircraft.”

Eight thousand German tanks—twice as many as crossed the Soviet border in June. On June 22, 1941, the entire Wehrmacht, including reserves and tanks in Europe, had approximately 5200–5600 vehicles, including light Pz.I and Pz.II tanks. The loss figure, therefore, was purely propaganda.

Wartime propaganda exaggerations and peacetime analytical miscalculations are phenomena of different natures: the former is intentional, the latter is not. But they share one thing: the ease with which the system operates on unverifiable large numbers without encountering internal resistance. After all, the USSR had a favorable starting point: about a two-year head start from the development of Carden-Lloyd technology, and an even longer one from the start of mass tank production. This head start was unencumbered by the pacifist restrictions of the Treaty of Versailles and was fueled by the transfer of resources, including from agriculture. And yet, by the end of 1939, the country found itself playing catch-up. The breakthrough in Soviet tank production came on the very eve of the "war of motors," when there was almost no time left to catch up.

What was systemic and what was opportunistic


Here it is worth separating the two layers. System problem — the lack of well-established procedures for verifying intelligence data and comparing it with actual capabilities: inflated figures were included in planning and were not revised for years. The conjuncture component — the personnel situation of the late 1930s and the inertia of the well-established production of obsolete models, which prevented a shift to new ones.

At the same time, the emphasis on mass production during the war also played a positive role. A proper methodology is crucial here: a head-to-head comparison of "50 T-34s versus 15 German medium tanks" is inaccurate, as it confuses different periods and classes of vehicles. Comparing the entire class of medium vehicles—tanks plus self-propelled guns produced between 1941 and 1945—reveals a different picture:
  • USSR: T-34-76, T-34-85, SU-85, SU-100, SU-122 - about 64 thousand units;
  • Germany: Pz.III, Pz.IV, StuG III/IV, Panthers, Jagdpanzer – about 37 thousand on all fronts.

There was real superiority, but it was achieved at a high price. Against this backdrop, preparation for war can hardly be considered a strength of Soviet leadership: the head start the country had gained in the interwar period had been largely squandered by 1941.
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  1. -3
    27 June 2026 08: 14
    The concept of "beating the enemy on his own territory" played a cruel joke, because in the case of defensive actions it is better to use artillery, since instead of one tank, for the same money, several artillery pieces could be made
    1. +3
      27 June 2026 17: 07
      Quote: pavel.tipin
      Instead of one tank, several artillery pieces could have been made for the same amount of money
      It's impossible: money wasn't the deciding factor here. Instead of one tank, they could make one gun. The factories couldn't handle more. The USSR had a problem with artillery. And with shells, too. In short, they did everything they could, as much as they could.
      1. -1
        28 June 2026 09: 31
        A tank is a more complex weapon than a cannon. The cannon's barrel and sight were manufactured back in the Russian Empire. A tank is designed to break through defenses, and in the early stages of WWII, the war was defensive in nature.
        1. +1
          29 June 2026 11: 07
          Quote: pavel.tipin
          The tank is designed to break through defenses

          German "fire brigades", French tank divisions and even Soviet mechanized corps send you their greetings. smile
          The 11th Mechanized Corps, under the cover of the 8th Tank Brigade, concentrated on the northern bank of the Neman River, in the Skidel area and the forests to the north and northeast, together with the 11th Infantry Division and the 12th Heavy Infantry Division, attacks the enemy's broken-through motorized mechanized units, depending on the situation, west or east of the railway in the general direction of Ralun, Velki, Solechniki or Lida, Oshmyany and destroys them.
          The 20th Mechanized Corps, depending on its readiness, will: a) organize an anti-tank defense on the line indicated by the 8th Tank Brigade, subordinating the latter, or b) together with the 11th SPG and 12th BAD, attack the enemy's broken-through motorized mechanized units in the direction of Oshmyany, Klevitsa, Voronovo, Eishishkes, Radun and, together with the 11th Mechanized Corps, destroy them.

          Tank units are invaluable in defense. Without a mobile reserve capable of cutting off a breaking enemy tank wedge, a static infantry defense collapses within days—as Kyiv demonstrated.
      2. 0
        21 July 2026 12: 29
        The USSR had no problems with artillery. Various versions of the 20, 23, 37, 45, 57, 76, 85, 100, 122, and 152 mm guns were mass-produced. Aircraft 20, 23, 37, and even 45 mm guns, anti-aircraft 37 and 85 mm guns, howitzers, self-propelled guns, tank guns, and towed guns—for the Germans, Soviet artillery was a curse. And then there were mortars and multiple rocket launchers. Learn the ropes!
        1. 0
          21 July 2026 20: 04
          Quote: Glagol1
          Teach materiel!
          That's it!
          Quote: Glagol1
          The USSR had no problem with artillery. Various versions were mass-produced: 20, 23, 37, 45, 57, 76, 85, 100, 122, and 152 mm.
          Not in large enough quantities. Absolutely not enough. The anti-aircraft capability is a complete disaster. That's why they were so keen on the ZIS-3: it could be produced in decent quantities.
    2. +3
      27 June 2026 17: 32
      How are you going to move those very guns?
      Horses or camels?
      1. 0
        28 June 2026 09: 34
        In the USSR and Germany, guns were transported by horses. Horses don't need gasoline. Again, this was the early stages of the war. Light tanks quickly became obsolete.
        1. +1
          29 June 2026 11: 01
          Quote: pavel.tipin
          In the USSR and Germany, guns were transported by horses.

          Not all. Even in Wehrmacht infantry divisions, divisional antitank guns were powered by a mechanical tow—otherwise, maneuvering to repel tank attacks would have been impossible.
          Our mechanical traction for the antitank gun ended at the 45mm caliber. There was no adequate traction for larger calibers.
          1. +1
            29 June 2026 15: 30
            So they write that a significant part of the first "forty-fives" did not have a sprung chassis.
            And only horses could transport them.
            Maybe they're lying.
            1. +2
              29 June 2026 16: 48
              Quote: hohol95
              So they write that a significant part of the first "forty-fives" did not have a sprung chassis.
              And only horses could transport them.

              These systems can be given to rifle battalions - given their defensive line, there are plenty of horses.
              The problem with the rifle division's IPAP is that it absolutely needs mechanical support. Moreover, by the end of the 1930s, the 45mm caliber will have to be replaced with a larger one, so the "Komsomolets" will be out of luck.
              And the encircling artillery brigades without high-speed mechanized traction for the 76th-85th-107th guns are completely pointless. Because the enemy's mechanized units (as did ours later) constantly changed their attack directions during the offensive, searching for the least defended point of defense. To counter this shifting of positions, the artillery brigades had to keep up with them and meet them in advantageous positions after the breakthrough.
              1. +1
                29 June 2026 18: 17
                You're right. The Komsomolets are good tractors, but only for the 45mm and 76mm Polkovushka.
                They couldn't handle either the ZiS-2 or the F-22USV.
                But there were difficulties with tractors for divisional and corps-type artillery.
                And the F-22s themselves were of little use as anti-tank weapons due to their separate targeting.
                107mm for 1941 are heavy, few in number and there is no "pull".
                At first they wanted to put them in "divisions", then they sent them to the "corps" and there they quietly "dissolved" due to their small numbers.
                1. +2
                  30 June 2026 10: 41
                  Quote: hohol95
                  And the F-22s themselves were of little use as anti-tank weapons due to their separate targeting.

                  So, all the division's 76mm guns were relegated to anti-tank guns out of desperation—there was nothing else available. 57mm anti-tank guns were supposed to take their place.
                  Quote: hohol95
                  107mm for 1941 are heavy, few in number and there is no "pull".

                  However, there are intelligence reports of German heavy tank divisions armed with heavy tanks mass-produced in Czechoslovakia and France. And even the performance characteristics of three types of German heavy tanks. smile
                  Quote: hohol95
                  107mm for 1941 are heavy, few in number and there is no "pull".

                  He-he-he... the 107mm IPTABs we know are field guns weighing "only" 4 tons.
                  The M-75 anti-tank guns were supposed to be standard issue for the IPTAB: a 107 mm barrel with a length of 75 calibers on a ML-20 carriage, weighing 8 tons (eight tons!) even according to the technical specifications, but with a calculated penetration of 165 mm at an angle of 30 degrees at a distance of a kilometer.
                  Here is another contender for the Voroshilovtsy (the only high-speed tractor for systems from the hull and above) besides the ARGK and TD/MK repair battalions. smile
                  Quote: hohol95
                  At first they wanted to put them in "divisions", then they sent them to the "corps" and there they quietly "dissolved" due to their small numbers.

                  Yeah... and then we had to reinvent the light corps gun - because the tasks hadn't gone away, and high-speed tractors for the A-19 hadn't been invented yet. smile
                  1. +1
                    30 June 2026 11: 04
                    However, there are intelligence reports of German heavy tank divisions armed with heavy tanks mass-produced in Czechoslovakia and France. And even the performance characteristics of three types of German heavy tanks. 

                    The French and British were also confident that the Messerschmitt plant was producing an Me-110 every 10 to 20 minutes.
                    The Germans put on a similar show for them at one of the aircraft factories.
                    German counterintelligence worked well with disinformation.
                    But German designers also spent a lot of paper on various projects of "assault heavies".
                    And they even built experimental cars and drove them around the testing grounds.
                    But they were “given birth” only in 1942.
    3. +3
      29 June 2026 11: 00
      Quote: pavel.tipin
      The concept of "fighting the enemy on his own territory" has backfired.

      There was no such concept. Or rather, there was, but only in propaganda. Real strategic planning expanded the list of regions of the USSR subject to evacuation year after year. The country was preparing for a major and protracted war.
      Quote: pavel.tipin
      because instead of one tank, several artillery pieces could be produced for the same amount of money

      Yeah... and abandon them in the field without traction. For the USSR, a tank was easier to produce than an artillery tractor—by 1941, our design bureaus had only managed to produce two tractors that satisfied the GABTU: the light "Komsomolets" and the heavy "Voroshilovets." Divisional artillery lacked adequate mechanized traction—the STZ products weren't even suitable for the infantry.
      1. 0
        29 June 2026 11: 11
        There was a concept, it was based on the conviction that as soon as our troops entered enemy territory, the foreign working class would rise up in rebellion.
        1. +1
          29 June 2026 16: 50
          Quote: pavel.tipin
          There was a concept, it was based on the conviction that as soon as our troops entered enemy territory, the foreign working class would rise up in rebellion.

          It should be noted that the propaganda speeches of political and military leaders contained somewhat different objectives than the military plans developed under their leadership. Thus, in 1936, K. Ye. Voroshilov proclaimed the slogan that the Red Army would wage war "with little bloodshed and on foreign soil." However, this statement did not prevent the approval the following year of another plan for evacuation from areas potentially occupied by the enemy and further loss quotas for the year of war, which bore very little resemblance to the aforementioned slogan. Therefore, when analyzing the measures taken to prepare for war, It is very important to distinguish between political propaganda and the actual direction of military planning.

          © Melia A.A. Mobilization training of the national economy of the USSR.
          Determining the need for combat equipment for the entire duration of a future war was impractical, if only because it was impossible to predict the war's duration in advance. Therefore, mobilization requirements were calculated only for the first period of the future war. A year was convenient for this purpose, since annual cycles formed the basis of current economic planning. The first year of the expected war was used as the estimated period, as it was fraught with the greatest complications for the Armed Forces and the greatest difficulties in their logistical support.
          © Artillery supply in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-45.
        2. +1
          29 June 2026 17: 40
          Quote: pavel.tipin
          There was a concept, it was based on the conviction that as soon as our troops entered enemy territory, the foreign working class would rise up in rebellion.

          Perhaps such a "concept" existed somewhere. Quite possibly. However, industrial sites for the evacuation of factories in the rear had been actively built since 1939...
          1. +2
            30 June 2026 10: 44
            Quote: Trapper7
            However, industrial sites for the evacuation of factories in the rear were being built quite actively since 1939...

            Thus, the transfer of industry to the east was one of the main objectives of the Third Five-Year Plan. Evacuation planning before the war had already reached the level of a development strategy for the entire country.
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  3. +1
    27 June 2026 09: 36
    the idea of ​​the need to produce tanks with projectile-proof armor simply came too late
  4. +1
    27 June 2026 10: 45
    Thanks to the author for the material! "The similar potential of the BT and T-28, not to mention the T-26 and T-35, was practically exhausted by 1938..." The T-28's performance is debatable. Remove the machine gun turrets, give it some screen armor (which is what they did), etc. It's simply not technologically advanced and can't be deployed en masse like the T-34. The Finns held this tank in high regard.
  5. -1
    27 June 2026 11: 11
    I think I know the author's nickname on VO and I can even guess why all this was written right now.
  6. -2
    27 June 2026 13: 13
    German models had a huge potential for modernization, allowing them to become the Wehrmacht's most widely produced tanks. The similar potential of the BT and T-28, not to mention the T-26 and T-35, was virtually exhausted by 1938.

    The BT and T-28 could have been screened, but the question is why the armored forces command did not address this issue.
    1. +2
      29 June 2026 11: 12
      Quote: strannik1985
      The BT and T-28 could have been screened, but the question is why the armored forces command did not address this issue.

      There's nowhere. I already wrote above how the T-28s that arrived at their factory for modernization ended up being partially cannibalized and scrapped, because LKZ stopped all work on the T-28 and focused all its efforts on the KV.
      But on-site shielding requires kits, equipment, and available, experienced hands. Industry and the armored forces lack all of these, or have them in very limited supply. The industry has no time for modernization at all—the GABTU demands a volume plan for new equipment, plus the same GABTU and Kulik, who has joined it, are pecking at them, demanding that they fix at least the most glaring problems with the new equipment.
      1. -1
        29 June 2026 19: 18
        And for on-site screening we need: kits, equipment and free, experienced hands.

        That is, there are factories, but they are busy putting new tanks into production, but if these tanks pass the stage of experimental military operation, the start of serial production moves to the right and the capacity to produce screens for BT and T-28 appears.
        1. +1
          30 June 2026 10: 48
          Quote: strannik1985
          That is, there are factories, but they are busy putting new tanks into production, but if these tanks pass the stage of experimental military operation, the start of serial production moves to the right.

          So we find ourselves with old, shielded light tanks against German anti-tank guns. While the T-34 and KV could somehow compensate for the tactical incompetence of their commanders and the poor training of their crews with their armor, the old light tanks won't have that chance.
          1. -1
            30 June 2026 12: 43
            And we find ourselves with shielded old light tanks against German anti-tank guns.

            In any case, we will remain with the old tanks, even if we have 8 mechanized corps left, then to equip 16 tank divisions in the West we need 3,200 T-34 and 496 KV.
            And while the T-34 and KV could somehow compensate for the tactical illiteracy of their commanders and the low level of training of their crews with their protection, the older LTs won't have that chance.

            This cannot be compensated for by any means other than moderating appetites; 8-9 mechanized corps was the limit that the USSR could afford by 1941.
            1. +2
              30 June 2026 15: 57
              Quote: strannik1985
              In any case, we will remain with the old tanks, even if we have 8 mechanized corps left, then to equip 16 tank divisions in the West we need 3,200 T-34 and 496 KV.

              So it will be like in real life—a mixed complement. Some units will have new equipment, some will have older equipment. Because MKs with only older equipment, even after modernization and shielding, will be formations of the same type—like the 108th TD.
              And in general, the GABTU is better off focusing on personnel and special operations forces, not equipment. After all, it's not the tanks that fight—it's the structures. The GABTU has data on the low level of education of its soldiers and junior commanders. There's also data on the training of battalion-division-level commanders, who either commanded purely tank units (former tankers) or mixed units but had no experience commanding tank units (transferred from cavalry and infantry). And yes, a short tenure (due to the increase in armored vehicles) doesn't add to this experience either.
              This means that the MK-40 OSHS, copied from the Panzerwaffe, can be consigned to the fire. Because it requires that, even at the regimental level, the commander be able to control combined tank-infantry-artillery groups assembled from various units for a specific mission. In a rational, alternative approach, based on the available personnel data, it can be concluded that they cannot be entrusted with combined units. They need to form ready-made, heterogeneous "building blocks" of units, and only then can they be formed into divisions and corps. A permanent brigade, after six months of training and coordination, can still fight.
              1. -1
                30 June 2026 19: 00
                So it will be like in real life - a mixed configuration.

                Better than new tanks from a company to a battalion per division, the rest are shielded BT and T-28.
                Because MKs only with old equipment, even after modernization and screening, will be formations of the same battle - like the 108th TD.

                As of August 22, it had 7 KV tanks, 32 T-34s, 38 T-40s, 28 BAs, 102 trucks and special vehicles, 12 122mm howitzers, and 24 76mm guns. For a tank division, this is a pittance.
                A permanent brigade can still fight after six months of training and coordination.

                However, they require very high-quality management at the regiment/brigade level where combat operations in maneuver warfare must be managed above the rifle corps level. That is, to replace one tank division, it is necessary to create a temporary formation of several brigades, providing them with combat and logistical support units, similar to the level above, when the execution of a task requires the organized actions of several mobile divisions.
  7. +3
    27 June 2026 14: 44
    Against this backdrop, preparation for war can hardly be considered a strength of Soviet governance: the head start the country had gained in the interwar period had been largely squandered by 1941.

    In what way do you see this “head start”, Author?
    The main thing is when the country received it - in 1921 or in 1938?
  8. 0
    27 June 2026 16: 19
    The very concept of war was wrong.
    Neither ours nor Hitler's, no one guessed how it would happen.
    The Americans knew even before December 7, 1941 that they would participate in it.
  9. +3
    27 June 2026 16: 53
    Two years later, the USSR officially acquired the Pz.Kpfw.III from Germany. The Germans, even as they prepared for an attack, sold it to their potential enemy without apparent regret. It was one of the last "troikas" still armed with a short-barreled 50mm cannon, less advanced than the later Pz.IIIs with long-barreled L/42 = KwK 38, L/60 = KwK 39, which would attack the Soviet border a year later.




    The same tank that arrived in the USSR in 1940.
    Author, where do you see a 50mm gun?
    A tank with a 37mm gun and two machine guns in the turret!
    1. +1
      28 June 2026 16: 20
      Thanks for the clarification. It just seemed that way.
      1. 0
        28 June 2026 17: 09
        I have hundreds of Finnish tanks, where did you see them?
        Maybe it was 2 German tank battalions?
        1. 0
          28 June 2026 21: 10
          Is there ever a mention of "hundreds"? Is 86 hundreds? Even if there aren't 86, but 46, that's still more than 0.
          1. +2
            28 June 2026 21: 50
            Meanwhile, already in 1941, up to a hundred Finnish tanks would attack the Soviet border from the Finnish side.

            Up to a hundred it could be 1, 2, 5...10.
            But at the same time, you "forgot about the two German tank battalions that actually took part in the battles together with Finnish infantry units.
            To carry out Operation Polar Fox, the XXXVI Corps headquarters was tasked with commanding the 169th Infantry Division, the SS Motorized Battle Group Nord, a battalion from the 163rd Infantry Division, a newly formed heavy artillery battalion, the 40th Special Purpose Tank Battalion (Pz.Abt.zbV 40), the 211th Tank Battalion, and engineering and construction units. In addition, the 6th Finnish Infantry Division was involved, commanded by Colonel Werner Wikla (Wiklund), a former border officer who had served for several years as assistant to the chief of the Lapland Border Guard, as well as the entire Finnish border guard.
            ...
            This means that the corps' subordinate units of the 40th Special Purpose Battalion included 12 Pz.II, 4 Pz.III Ausf.D with a 37mm gun, and 11 Pz.III Ausf.H with a 50mm gun. There were no other tank units in the XXXVI AK. It is impossible to single out the machine-gun-armed Pz.I tanks and the command vehicles based on them (kl.Pz.Bef.Wg.I) because these tanks used the same machine guns as the rest of the Wehrmacht. Therefore, the exact number of "ones" cannot be determined from the quartermaster's data. One thing is certain: they were part of the 40th Battalion and are present in photographs from 1941. 
            ...
            That is, the composition of the 211th battalion is drawn up as 13 S-35 (Pz.Kpfw.35S in German classification) and 26 H-39 (PzKpfw.38H in German classification).
            It's worth noting that, according to documents from the Oberquartiermeister of the Army of Norway, French tanks were only equipped with armor-piercing rounds, while the German tanks of the 40th Battalion had both fragmentation and armor-piercing rounds. Overall, the Wehrmacht deployed over 100 tanks in the Arctic and Karelia, including newly produced German Pz.III tanks.

             To complete the picture, it can be noted that the 14th Army units still had about fifty (51 vehicles as of April 1941) light amphibious tanks T-37 and T-38 in the reconnaissance battalions of the rifle divisions, but their value seems rather questionable.

            https://tacticmedia.ru/articles/tanki-u-vorot-zapolyarya/?ysclid=mqwex86cq5127756453
            Tanks at the gates of the Arctic
            December 09 2022
            Alexey Isaev

            You are right, but you describe the tanks as Finnish.
            And the Germans forgot to mention it.
            They say that Soviet intelligence missed the troop transfer again.
            There are probably no mentions of Slovak tanks anywhere.
            But the Slovaks, as part of their Fast Division, “brought” a tank battalion.
            And different artillery.
            1. +1
              29 June 2026 06: 05
              If you noticed, the episode focuses not on the tanks that intelligence "overlooked," but on those the command should have known about even without intelligence, but was very slow to think about. And the word "probably" when applied to Slovak tanks indicates that you didn't read the whole story. They don't exist, just like German tanks in the north. The author has the right to choose examples to prove his points. Why would they be there if they weren't in the pre-war reports either? We compare what was predicted with what was actually there, and draw conclusions.
              1. 0
                29 June 2026 10: 15
                ...and those that the command should have known about even without intelligence, but was very slow to think about.

                What is it like?
                Enlighten me!
                The command was supposed to know 100% of the enemy factories in terms of manufacturing armored vehicles?
                Where can one find out this?
                In which reference books was this indicated?
                The Germans themselves could not establish normal production of the Pz.III and then put the Pz.IIF into production in Poland, not out of a good life.
                But they clearly didn't inform anyone about this.
                1. +1
                  29 June 2026 13: 21
                  The priests are probably enlightening us. I can enlighten you. You haven't read the whole thing again. What do factories have to do with Finnish tanks? Couldn't Meretskov have counted how many tanks he'd lost six months earlier? Or didn't he know how many there were at the start of the Finnish campaign?
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2026 14: 35
                    You don't seem to be swinging a censer...
                    That's good.

                    Did Meretskov know 100% why this or that tank was lost?
                    The losses have been counted.
                    But how do you propose to determine the number of vehicles that the enemy can repair and put into service?
                    1. +1
                      29 June 2026 14: 56
                      Since they were towed behind enemy lines, that means something will be done with them. 130 vehicles were towed away for what? To a museum? Of those in liberated territory, were some repaired? Isn't it hard to calculate that percentage? At least calculate the same percentage from the first group. That's without delving into the causes of losses. Better yet, don't bother with calculations at all, but demand the return of all lost vehicles, or prove their impossibility. That's the right of the victor. Were the prisoners returned? Why weren't the tanks returned?
      2. AMG
        +1
        28 June 2026 21: 53
        Reading both parts of the author's article creates the impression of artificiality in the chosen topic. Tanks and reconnaissance? Why tanks? It turns out that the Germans also employed discouraging tactics. Here we could switch to the organization of tank forces and the tactics used by both armies. No, that's later; now let's talk about technology. The head of the Red Army's Mechanization and Motorization Directorate, I.A. Khalepsky, approaches the head of the tank design bureau, S.A. Ginzburg, with whom he traveled abroad as part of a commission to procure suitable models, and informs him of the future capabilities of Polish tank production. Why? It turns out he wants more diamonds on his collar tabs. Simply personal interest, as if he would be the one deciding on the allocation of funds for production, determining the required number of tanks, or commanding tank units. Of course not, this is not his area of ​​expertise. Therefore, this is the author's conjecture. The same goes for attempts to criticize intelligence for insufficient attention to tank issues, and the Red Army leadership for improperly developing anti-tank weapons, and more. Instead, the analysis of Europe's tank fleet is a complete mess, with only Denmark and Belgium missing. The difficulties faced by domestic industry in mastering new models are described with obvious irony. They're simply botched! No accountability, no acceptance. I wonder where the exact location near the border is where hundreds of defective tanks were stored. Overall, the article is very crude, containing numerous inaccuracies, questions to unknown parties, and speculation.
        1. 0
          29 June 2026 06: 12
          I took the comment seriously until I got to the "Ь" in the word "найтиЬся." And the questions are also for you, but I assume you don't have the answers either.
          1. AMG
            0
            29 June 2026 07: 14
            What about the capitalization in your answer? And what's wrong with your assessment of I.A. Khalepsky's role and the difficulties of the industry during its development, given that we and the Germans had different starting points? What questions do you have for me? Let's discuss it. And the word "находься" is at the very end, so you've read the main points. Of course, it's a mistake. All the best.
            1. -2
              29 June 2026 13: 16
              The word "относЬся" (relate) in this case is written with a soft sign, while the word "знаиТ" (meaning) is written without one. Your disregard for soft signs indicates that you are not an editor. Therefore, determining whether a piece is raw or not is not your skill level. Cheers!
              1. AMG
                +2
                29 June 2026 20: 13
                I will! And by what rules do you write the first word with a capital letter the second time? Why are you playing with words that aren't even in the text? An editor is someone who works with the text, checks it, and corrects it. Let's get to the point. Try to respond to criticism with dignity; it will be useful in the future. You've taken on a hackneyed topic and decided to introduce your own perspective. But you weren't well prepared, as happens. You haven't even briefly familiarized yourself with V.I. Lenin's article. Or with the history of the Soviet T-26. You got carried away counting numbers. But you were impressed by the small episode of the tanks being at Hanko. You played up the possibility of returning equipment captured by the Finns. How are such trivialities even possible when concluding international peace treaties? You're surprised that several tanks were made of ordinary steel. What did you expect? If you first had to convert the dimensions from inches to millimeters on the drawings, and then check the result. And then develop your own technology, based on your technology and materials. By the way, I got some benefit from the article. After looking through the materials, I learned that STZ made T-26s, albeit only a small number, and the customer was the Navy's People's Commissariat. It's likely that some of these tanks ended up at Hanko. Before, I thought only T-34s were made. I don't think you served in the army. But everything can be corrected in the future, if there's a desire. Go for it! All the best.
  10. +1
    27 June 2026 17: 16
    However, relying on the mass production of obsolete models cost dearly in 1941.
    Relying on older models would have worked if they had been more reliable, or if the army had created conditions for tank repairs, or if the tanks' resources hadn't been wasted in the pointless marches at the beginning of the war, or if the remaining tanks hadn't been sent to the prepared anti-tank defense base near Brody. The mass production of these tanks was necessary because the army had no one to repair them (everyone capable of doing so was working in factories) and no means of repairing them (there were no spare parts). Apparently, they hoped to solve the problem statistically (if there were many tanks, they wouldn't all break down at once).
    But the USSR had a favorable starting point: about a two-year head start from the start of the Carden-Lloyd technology development, and even more from the start of mass tank production.
    The starting conditions weren't favorable; the USSR had a little more time. But its industry was noticeably weaker. Just remember that until the fall of 41, the armor-piercing shell of the main anti-tank gun couldn't even penetrate the T-3. In other words, the light T-3 was effectively a medium tank. True, they later figured out how to sharpen armor-piercing shells, but the enemy was already at Moscow. And shells were in short supply, especially armor-piercing ones.
    1. +2
      27 June 2026 17: 37
      A 45mm armor-piercing shell penetrated 30mm of armor on German tanks.
      Only many of them received reinforced frontal hull armor by June 22, 1941.
      Here the "forty-five" could not cope, as did the British "two-pounder".
      But even the German 37mm could not cope with the new medium and heavy Soviet, British (infantry), and French tanks.
      1. +1
        27 June 2026 19: 21
        Quote: hohol95
        A 45mm armor-piercing shell penetrated 30mm of armor on German tanks.
        The problem wasn't the armor thickness. The armor-piercing shell from the 45mm anti-tank gun would split when it hit the T-3's front. They couldn't figure this out for a long time. When they figured this out, they started filing down the shell, which meant the casing continued to split, but the hard-alloy core penetrated the armor. Furthermore, there was a severe shortage of high-quality anti-tank ammunition. The anti-tank defense was forced to accept them with the verdict "not intended for use against armored targets" (yes, I'm referring to the armor-piercing shells).
        1. +2
          27 June 2026 20: 39
          Unfortunately, this fable about the shells has long been refuted.
          "Nadpilivanie" appeared in 1943 - an armored shell with localizers.
          And such shells began to penetrate armor more than 30 mm.
          The limit of the "forty-fives" and their armor-piercing shells is 40 mm of armor.
          But armor also varies.
          The Czechs' armor was fragile and shattered when hit.
          Where did they write that the 45mm armor-piercing projectile is not for firing at armored targets?
          What were they used for then?
          For shooting at pillboxes?
          So what did Soviet artillery and T-26 tanks fire at German tanks in 1942 during the battles in the Caucasus?
          With wooden projectiles?
          1. +3
            29 June 2026 11: 14
            Quote: hohol95
            "Nadpilivanie" appeared in 1943 - an armored shell with localizers.
            And such shells began to penetrate armor more than 30 mm.

            If I remember correctly, serial production of 45mm BBS with localizers began in November 1941.
            1. +1
              29 June 2026 12: 22
              In November 1941, so in November 1941.
              Production has begun.
              But the army was not 100% with them in November or December 1941.
        2. +3
          29 June 2026 11: 23
          Quote: bk0010
          The armor-piercing shell from the 45mm gun shattered when it hit the T-3's front. This was something they couldn't figure out for a long time.

          The problem was the quality of the armor. For shell testing, the USSR used domestic armor, which these shells routinely penetrated. However, when they tested German-type armor (KTs, K=2600), it turned out that 40 mm at 150 meters and 30 degrees to the normal was the limit even for high-quality 45 mm armored vehicles.
          The peacetime solution was the development of a 57mm anti-tank gun. However, I've read reports that Kulik hedged his bets and simultaneously commissioned the development of a 45mm anti-tank gun with a higher muzzle velocity (the future M-42)—apparently in the hopes that ammunition manufacturers would be able to solve the problem.
          Quote: bk0010
          When they realized this, they began to file down the shell, but the casing continued to split, but the hard-alloy core pierced the armor.

          Undercuts, also known as stress localizers, were used on conventional chamber-type projectiles. Their purpose was to control the fracture of the projectile's upper casing layers as it passed through armor, without penetrating deeper cracks and destroying the entire casing and chamber.
    2. -1
      27 June 2026 18: 38
      Betting on older models would have worked if they had been more reliable.

      There was no focus on old tanks, no proper modernization according to the German model was carried out, the focus was on the T-34 and they didn’t manage to produce it in time.
  11. +3
    29 June 2026 10: 56
    Against this background, the production of hundreds of T-28s in 1938–1940 looks unpromising,

    Hundreds of T-28s were produced until 1939. In 1940, only 12-13 tanks of this model were produced. For one simple reason: LKZ switched to KV production, and in the same workshops and on the same machines.
    The line was dismantled so thoroughly that the Western Special Military District T-28s arriving at the LKZ for repair and modernization had nothing to upgrade them with. As a result, to complete the work on at least some of the tanks, I think a quarter of the arriving T-28s had to be cannibalized, and then decommissioned.
  12. 0
    30 June 2026 11: 49
    On the one hand, miscalculating numbers is bad, but... Thanks to this miscalculation, the USSR built up its armored vehicle industry with the goal of outsmarting the enemy, and this proved necessary during the war. Yes, there were some problems, but the USSR outnumbered Germany in tanks, and this became the key to victory. The situation can be summed up as "every cloud has a silver lining."
  13. +1
    30 June 2026 16: 35
    It seems to me that the Germans' breakthrough wasn't so much the new weapons in the initial phase, but rather their breakthrough technologies in command, coordination between branches of the military and aviation, reconnaissance, planning, and logistics, and, of course, in training from the soldier to the unit at all levels. Communications were groundbreaking, first and foremost—mobile communications nodes attached to regiments and formations, VHF radios for every tank and aircraft. I believe, unlike the Germans, we didn't get VHF radios until the end of the war, but I may be wrong. Red Army commanders feared radio communications like the plague, as they could be detected and bombed in no time. Not without reason. In other words, they completely lacked the skill to use radios. They used telephones, if they had them, but mostly like messengers 200 years ago. On all these counts, the Red Army is a failure. They had tanks, but they didn't know how to use them properly. They drove them along the front lines until they were broken, then sent them into doomed attacks, or, conversely, abandoned them without cover in defense, judging by memoirs and surviving documents. No one thought at all about logistics and supplies. I once saw a photo of a German tank battalion lined up for inspection. What struck me was that there were just as many tanks as trucks, jeeps, and motorcyclists. That is, the battalion was self-sufficient in supplying equipment, ammunition, and reconnaissance. Even non-tank Red Army commanders had a strong belief that tanks could do everything, could replace both artillery and infantry on the battlefield while remaining invulnerable because of their armor. And that they were fast. They had a complete lack of understanding of the tactical use of tanks in various types of combat. It's enough to read the meager "tank in combat" manuals from the pre-war period. That's the understanding of tank use on the battlefield. We know the results.
  14. MSN
    0
    13 July 2026 17: 46
    Germany: Pz.III, Pz.IV, StuG III/IV, Panthers, Jagdpanzer – about 37 thousand on all fronts.

    Werner Oswald. "The Complete Catalogue of German Military Vehicles and Tanks 1900-1982." A total of 41,947 tanks, assault guns, and tank destroyers, including the Deuce, light Czechoslovakian, ARV, anti-aircraft, Tiger, Ferdinand, and Hetzer tanks, were produced from 1941 to 1945. The number of medium tanks would be closer to 27,000 than 37,000. Typo?