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Nobody cares. About the main threat to Russian civilization

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Nobody cares. About the main threat to Russian civilization



Yes, all do not care. To notice this, simply look around.

Houses with no street names or numbers. Whole series of such - to find out where you are now without GPS, sometimes you need to go through several blocks. Institutions without any navigation inside, although thousands of people come there every day. And watchmen who do not give references.

Late arrivals, or even non-attendance at meetings that were agreed upon long before. Setting aside everything for the eternal tomorrow. Mountains of papers on the tables, mountains of garbage on the floor and crumbling plaster.

Placers factual errors in manuals and textbooks. Overlapping paragraphs on sites and dead links. Unbalanced controls. Sticking door handles. And stress, stress, endless stress.

In any institution, be it public or private, you almost never meet people who work. More precisely, there are many busy with something, and many are even busy with what is in part similar to the performance of official duties. However, the inefficiency of their work is so high that their occupation looks more like a cynical mockery of these same responsibilities. As if the whole company consists entirely of satirists, furiously lashing out over the production process.

These satirists, however, are not fun at all. And even less fun for those who, by coincidence, are forced to contact them. The official sticking over administrative work does not entertain visitors at all - he tries to humiliate them in every way. Instead of helping them, visitors who, it is possible, are here for the first time and, naturally, don’t know how and what is customary to issue here, the official yells at them, constantly requires reworking, rewriting, re-issuing, although he himself it seems unable to clearly list what is required of them.

The seller, the manager, the laboratory assistant behaves in the same way — anyone. They are all on edge, and all while doing so, they only stebe over their work.

All this - a consequence of the fact that all do not care. People don't care about what they do or how they do it. They are not interested in optimizing their work, they are not interested in organizing it, they are not interested in anything at all associated with this work.

They will tell you that they do not live for work. That work is material. Only a way to get money. Perhaps that would be the point. But what compensates for this inevitable routine? Does a man take care of his house? Not. Everything in the house is exactly the same - the doors are stuck, the wallpaper comes off, things are randomly scattered around the apartment, the home computer is almost not working for a long time, as it is full of viruses.

Is this also material? Perhaps a person lives by writing poems, researching something in his home laboratory, collecting robots, or even eagerly absorbing knowledge of the world? No, and it is not. Art, science, knowledge to the same extent do not care. About the "material", it was just a figure of speech, because the intangible to him exactly the same do not care.

He does not care and other people, including "his family", to the need for the care of which he appeals, in order to justify his pofigism in all other areas. He has no idea what his children live, and in some cases what they live for too. He is not interested in the interests of his spouse. Visiting parents or sisters with brothers, he just misses all the time needed according to the relative etiquette. He doesn't care.

He doesn't even care about the TV he watches. No matter what they show. It is just a background that allows him to disconnect for a while from the reality otsofigevsheyu him. Do not observe an alternative reality, no, just disconnect from the one in which he constantly lives. This is just hypnosis.

Abraham Boleslav Peace once said that a person is sometimes ready to plow all day, just not to work. This phrase is the best way to describe the life of a person who does not care. He is not going to do anything, he is just serving a sentence here, committing a multitude of mechanical actions, which save him from a quick death in an extremely inefficient way. And serving his term is hellishly exhausting.

What he is forced to do, he could do much easier and faster, but for that he would have to make a little effort - to learn this way, to master it. Understand the function of the program that he manually plays back every day. Organize your workplace so that it is easy to find what he uses on a daily basis. Change the communication scheme between employees. Find out the meaning of the word that he does not know, so every time he tries not to give a look about his ignorance.

However, this little effort is much harder for him than the alternative. It will be hours on the calculator to add the numbers inscribed in the Excel table, just not to understand how the formulas work there. He will make a hundred calls a day, transfer tons of information from one employee to another, just not to learn the simplest software that will free him from this. It will be painful to think how to pretend that he understands, about which it is, just not to understand this for real.

He will rummage through endless wardrobes, trying to find some kind of folder, just not to arrange them in an easy-to-search order and, even more so, not to switch to electronic document management.

Many people think that “bureaucrats are all on purpose” so that it does not turn out that they have plenty of free time. They do not specifically use computers, they specially keep everything in disarray, but no. Many of them are recycled, many are worn for twelve hours a day in the soap, from which they break down on colleagues and visitors. It is just that the effort required for work is much harder for them than the hundred times greater effort they make when they plow.

Many clinics already have computers for a long time, but the patient cards are still paper. Doctors write something in them by hand, they paste in new sheets there, they write the same thing a hundred times, although the computer is already on their desk. In the reception, female workers run between the cabinets in search of a map, and then on floors - to take the card to the right doctor. They could not do all this, the doctor could get access to the electronic map with one click of the mouse. But all do not care. To write, of course, laziness, but even more laziness to learn something. Even if it takes an hour, and years will be saved. From the height of his experience, he can still heal people mechanically, but for an hour of training you need awareness, which you cannot bring yourself to when it doesn't matter.

These are not bad people at all, they do not want evil to others, and sometimes they even want good. They feel sorry for other people, they may even want to help them. However, their position is similar to that of a sailor on a sinking ship, observing how the rest of the crew sips tea and idly discusses the color of the boatswain's shoes. They are not alone in their work, in their city, in their country. And universal pofigizm tightens them into its abyss.

I myself repeatedly under the influence of universal pofigizm diving there. And each time, with difficulty emerging, I realized that part of me sank after all. I could not regain the original nepofig, I just emerged from the abyss itself to its edge. Slightly farther from the edge than popped up last time.

Perhaps other nations know a way to work well just for the money. But we can't do that. For money, we can only come to work. However, if we see that what we have done is simply thrown away, since, generally speaking, it also didn’t care for the customers - simply the duties of the office meant an order. If we see that all do not care for our colleagues, superiors, subordinates. That is the inexpressible melancholy in words, from which the hands fall.

If we see that our idea is not worth any idea - to feed everyone, to give housing to everyone, to open, to reach, to accomplish something global, to come somewhere far away where we have gone now, then everything will be don't care

The official, intuitively understanding that a certain formal requirement is completely senseless, cannot overpower itself and help the visitor to meet this requirement. How could he not help him perform any other meaningless ritual. More precisely, how could not help him to make not just a visitor, but the next visitor. Of many hundreds in a month.

The employee can not look for ways to improve production, if the only purpose thereof is to increase the amount of money in someone’s pocket.

A scientist can not investigate something, if this study is only for a tick. To "master the budget."

They all could have a personal interest that would move them forward, despite the absence of a much-needed goal, but it slowly diminishes. And the first lost interest will accelerate the loss of interest in the second.

At their work, in their own city, in their own country, people are not alone; therefore, they are pulled down by others. But initially this happens because the work, the city and the country are not really their own. They want to feel their own, but the feeling collapses under the onslaught of the realization that all this - some very complex tools for pressing and laundering money by third parties whose intentions are vague and mercantile.

Other nations may be able to cope with this, but for our people, alienation is critical. When work is alienated from workers, cities - from their inhabitants, the country - from its citizens, inevitably, they will stop doing anything at all. Russians spat on all formal relations from the high bell tower. They spat on business interests and business ethics. They spat on labor discipline. A Russian can easily prokutit fallen money from heaven, but only extreme need can make him do what he and his associates do not believe in the slightest.

A Russian labor or military feat is accomplished when he intuitively realizes the real usefulness of this act. The public utility, even if the whole “society” to which the results of this feat will extend, consists of three of its comrades. A Russian accomplishes a feat when behind this feat stands a well-marked and from his point of view a just goal. If the goal is also great, then the Russian accomplishes the feat with a striking imagination. But if the goal is not there or it is unworthy or unfair, then he absolutely doesn’t care.

And without a global addressee of his efforts, he will quickly become indifferent. And without fellow-seekers, he will not care. And no "zealous owner", no "dictator", no "business ethics", no "law-is-laws" will pull him out of this state.

A worthy, fair goal, a direct link with the public good can be created from the Russian uneducated peasant - the great scientist. The absence of all this even great scientists will turn into a garden bed with vegetables. Everyone will not care.
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 26 May 2013 07: 04 New
    +5
    Emotionally. Even a lot of things. good Is it interesting that the author has a family? My opinion is that of those who have a family, children, parents who retire they don’t care. It can only be for those who have nothing and have no private property request
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 26 May 2013 07: 11 New
      18
      The second day on the site is somehow, to put it mildly, emotional rubbish going on.
      Yesterday an article about idiocy http://topwar.ru/28482-kak-raspoznat-idiota-vo-vremya-diskussii.html#comment-id-
      1185804, today about pofigizm....
      Is the weather affected?
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 26 May 2013 07: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Is the weather affected?

        Is it nothing that the weekly review is more and more like a record on the medical record? Only with doctors and paramedics is somehow bad, there are more statistics and a diary of observations
        1. astra
          astra 26 May 2013 11: 56 New
          26
          As for indifference or laziness: There was a case when he was a sailor on a ship, at a fish factory all people constantly banged their heads on the iron sharp corners of attachments. And in the factory there were many somewhere around 20-30. I myself have more than once smashed my head into blood at these angles, and when pitching, collisions cannot be avoided. They didn’t react at all to requests from the authorities to cut down the corners, even the rest of the sailors! everyone either was lazy or didn’t care, they probably thought that if they walk more carefully then they will avoid injuries, but every time it’s impossible to constantly think about caution and they will get injuries again. Maybe they hoped for another who cuts corners for them. In the end, my patience snapped and I went to the authorities to resolve the problem on my own, which they said only in their free time. He took the grinder and sawed off sharp corners in 2 hours and wrapped it with soft material in addition. Many were surprised to say - do you need it? let others file away. After that, I was convinced that either the people - the sailors were very lazy or scored everything so that they were ready to suffer.
          1. lecturer
            lecturer 26 May 2013 15: 55 New
            +8
            Unfortunately, you know there is a "law" in the Navy: "The initiative in the navy is punishable!" And if anyone benefits from THIS law, then
            ... it is impossible to avoid a collision while rolling

            Such "nonsense" especially on the "super", where the number of crew disappears in the hundreds. There, unfortunately, the laws of "rabble" flourish.
            BUT, the REASON is sometimes, not even in quantity, but in CAPTAIN!
            You know that the class of training in the "modern" sailor and in the "past" are different. Even the "number of applicants per place" is different. Therefore, your leadership, either young or ... "And there is nobody else!"
            1. astra
              astra 26 May 2013 21: 31 New
              +3
              Quote: morpod
              Such "nonsense" especially on the "super", where the number of crew disappears in the hundreds. There, unfortunately, the laws of "rabble" flourish.

              They guessed right, it went just on ships like monsund, the crew in Soviet times was under 140 people, now they have reduced it to 70, the loads have increased, where can I think about safety measures. Injuries increased, superiors require speed of work to the detriment of quality.
              Quote: morpod
              BUT, the REASON is sometimes, not even in quantity, but in CAPTAIN!

              Of course, much depends on the captain, but why do we always hope for a solution from above, when sometimes we can do it ourselves. I agree the initiative is punishable))) but when you get bumps every day because of imperfections in the design of the attachments, you have to take the initiative voluntarily, health is more important.
              Quote: morpod
              You know that the class of training in the "modern" sailor and in the "past" are different. Even the "number of applicants per place" is different. Therefore, your leadership, either young or ... "And there is nobody else!"

              I know ... he studied. One can judge in two ways, but in general, the old education was better, or students had to rely more on themselves. Now everything is bought, hence the result. Although, according to the captain’s stories, before the new ships arrived every 3 weeks, from the lack of navigators they studied for 3 months, in place 4 years, little knowledge was compensated by experience over time. But the leadership, the bosses are different: normal and unfortunately rotten, in a sea of ​​people you quickly calculate.
      2. Orchestrarant
        Orchestrarant 26 May 2013 08: 19 New
        -4
        Spring rules! laughing
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 26 May 2013 11: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Author Alexei Kravetsky ...
        In any institution, whether it is public or private, you will hardly find people who work.


        Arrange me in such an office the author, I will be grateful for a century, it seems that you have already settled



        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution 26 May 2013 14: 39 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak
          Arrange me in such an office the author, I will be grateful for a century, it seems that you have already settled

          There are such offices, but the author was mistaken in one thing, for example, in the same Gazprom, the bosses put all the work on subordinates, and those, in turn, on their subordinates. And it turns out that you are doing both your work and the work of the bosses, who sometimes simply have sons who have shoved them to this position by the thieves, alas, it is not only there but is found everywhere, less often in private small companies, such people simply will not live long if this is so.
    2. donchepano
      donchepano 26 May 2013 07: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67

      Emotionally. Even a lot of things.



      The author is not sick with the case? Some kind of hypochondria
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 May 2013 09: 56 New
        35
        In my opinion, the topic of nationwide indifference is caused by two factors:
        1) The lack of a holistic worldview and moral values ​​among the population of the Russian Federation, the Soviet Union is destroyed and replaced by a mixture of bourgeois values ​​seasoned with medieval religious (no matter which religion).
        2) Young people clearly understand that nifiga in their lives will not be able to change. The property of the people of the USSR has already been sawn, divided and the division is legalized, i.e. get rich quickly will not work. Getting rich working hard is also impossible, due to the corruption of the state. And wealth is the highest value of modern Russia and is actively promoted.
        In the political sphere, too, everything is divided and stable. Nobody who can change something will be allowed to go there (they’ll just kill).
        Hence the feeling of hopelessness and the boom of books and computer games on the topic of post-apocalypse (changes in living arrangements due to external factors, meteorite, epidemic, etc.)
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 26 May 2013 12: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: S_mirnov
          In my opinion, the topic of nationwide indifference is caused by two factors:

          The article is neither a plus nor a minus. Nevermind .....
          And I agree with Alexander.
        2. djon3volta
          djon3volta 26 May 2013 13: 17 New
          -8
          Quote: S_mirnov
          The property of the people of the USSR has already been sawn, divided and the division is legalized, i.e. get rich quickly will not work. Getting rich working hard is also impossible, due to the corruption of the state.

          it’s clear from your opuses that you couldn’t make money, and you couldn’t steal. Just like you give a billion in cash, you will either drink it or they will steal it from you.
          it’s clear from your posts that you often use the financial component, often write about money more often, which means that you also have money in the foreground, you just want a lot of money, and you realize that you will never have it (a lot of ), here you are spewing out all your anger at Serdyukov and Chubaisov, because it was they who PERSONALLY deprived you of your livelihood. Chubais threw you at 2 Volga, and Serdyukov took your pestle from under the mattress.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 26 May 2013 13: 29 New
            10
            laughing In his repertoire! "you often write about money оче more, which means that you also have money in the foreground" - money is not the main thing, but you cannot live without it, so you have to spend a lot of time to earn it. I am a supporter of the Stalin plan for the transition to a four-day working week, so that there is still enough time for self-development. And the fact that Chubais appropriated the national good, I remember. We don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give up ours!
            1. djon3volta
              djon3volta 26 May 2013 15: 16 New
              -9
              Quote: S_mirnov
              And the fact that Chubais appropriated the national good, I remember.

              PERSONALLY Chubais what stole from you? Specifically write, Chubais stole from me this fifth tenth. Make a list to me what farm Chubais stole from you.
              I do not defend Chubais, I just want to see those specific things, objects that PERSONALLY Chubais PERSONALLY stole from you.
              come on, waiting for the list.
              yes, I’m also wondering why the PEOPLE who works at the Prokhorovsky plant will not take this plant away? why the crowd of people just won’t say - Prokhorov, this is our plant, we are taking it from you! where are these people (people)? why aren't they going to at the factory and do not demand to return it .. to whom? it is not clear? to the people? then give me the factory too, I’m also the people laughing
        3. Severok
          Severok 26 May 2013 14: 34 New
          0
          You can’t say better and more precisely.
        4. Brigadier
          Brigadier 27 May 2013 04: 36 New
          +1
          I completely agree with the author. Here, almost according to Vereshchagin, "There was customs - there were smugglers. There was no customs - there were no smugglers." Now the situation is the same. The USSR where people worked for their country did not become, and people did not have the desire to work for something abstract - capitalist. Today there is no country for which the people would be sick of the soul, as before for the USSR. After the labeled country merged, everything went awry. After all, people are not blind.
      2. Atlon
        Atlon 26 May 2013 12: 23 New
        16
        Quote: donchepano
        The author is not sick with the case? Some kind of hypochondria

        And I agree with the author! Everything is just like that. Even here, maximum user activity on weekdays, during WORKING TIME! What is this talking about? The fact that the fucking people do not work, but only pretends! Wherever you go, employees are sitting everywhere with a smart look buried in monitors. And in fact they write on forums, in social networks, and play network games. And we want to live better? Many, as the author wrote, "get paid," or as one of my colleagues said "salary." But salaries must not be received, but earned! Of course, not everyone is online. Someone REALLY works, but too little to make a breakthrough ... And on weekends, we sit on sofas staring at the TV and sipping beer. We are tired". Therefore, not able to restore order in the house, in the garage, work out with children. Are many people actively resting now? By bike, kayak, with a tent? The maximum for which there is enough imagination is to go by car "to the nature" at the side of the asphalt, taking with you at the nearest supermarket already cooked products and a set of disposable tableware (or wash laziness), devour, and scattering garbage after you return to the sofa and TV ... And on Monday, “to work,” write on forums, on social networks and play network games.
    3. Genady1976
      Genady1976 26 May 2013 09: 52 New
      +4
      For such a salary not only do not need to work, but also need to harm slowly!
      that's what they think
    4. honest jew
      honest jew 26 May 2013 16: 02 New
      +6
      Vodka is the main threat to Russia !!!
      1. Conepatus
        Conepatus 26 May 2013 17: 54 New
        +2
        Not so much vodka as propaganda of alcohol (the same beer)
        Advertising at every step, on TV beer is advertised as a mandatory attribute of relaxation.
      2. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 26 May 2013 19: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: honest Jew
        Vodka is the main threat to Russia !!!
      3. TUMAN
        TUMAN 26 May 2013 20: 23 New
        12
        Quote: honest Jew
        Vodka is the main threat to Russia !!!

        This is the main threat to Russia. And vodka and drugs are a tool!
        1. alexandr00070
          alexandr00070 26 May 2013 22: 45 New
          +6
          Quote: TUMAN
          This is the main threat to Russia. And vodka and drugs are a tool!

          But they cleverly translate the arrows into vodka. Vodka is to blame. That the people are dying, and not the actions of God's chosen ministers who destroyed health care, education, culture, the economy, etc., but vodka is to blame. And after all, they hammered it to us, including the Honest Jew, made his contribution, he was supposed to act like that ........... by nationality.
          1. TUMAN
            TUMAN 26 May 2013 22: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: alexandr00070
            including Honest Jew

            Honest Jews do not exist. This "Honest Jew" is a tactical move of the Jews, for the re-education of the Slavs. So to speak, building confidence in the Jews. “Watch an honest Jew,” “and even Jews are honest,” “what an honest Jew.” And so on, on the topic!
            1. alexandr00070
              alexandr00070 26 May 2013 23: 03 New
              +2
              Quote: TUMAN
              Honest Jews do not exist.

              Well, how, and what about these honest people, who day and night care for the good of Russia ...................... although yes it doesn’t happen
      4. alexandr00070
        alexandr00070 26 May 2013 22: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: honest Jew
        Vodka is the main threat to Russia !!!

        this is the main threat to Russia
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 26 May 2013 23: 13 New
          0
          Quote: alexandr00070
          this is the main threat to Russia

          That's for sure! You won’t cook porridge with them!
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              1. alexandr00070
                alexandr00070 26 May 2013 23: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: TUMAN
                That's right!

                Gundyaev's reaction to luxury is sharply positive
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN 26 May 2013 23: 37 New
                  +1
                  Quote: alexandr00070
                  Gundyaev's reaction to luxury is sharply positive

                  Gundyaeva generally brings!
                  1. Lynx
                    Lynx 27 May 2013 00: 10 New
                    -1
                    Gundyaev was a Catholic cell-maker. That judged Orthodoxy in the wolf in sheep's clothing - this is exactly what the enemies of Orthodoxy and Russia are seeking.
                    What did Brzezinski say there? The USSR was destroyed, the main enemy remained - Orthodoxy.
                    This is me about the last two phrases on this demotivator.
                    Read about ecumenism in order not to be mistaken and not to provoke people to throw off their protection so far. This wolf, for that, was put in the place where he now sits.

                    I can’t understand one thing - are we such fools that we are refusing the state-forming and culture-forming religion that has been accompanying our country for so many centuries because of the accidentally expensive watches and provocatively insulting speeches of the fake patriarch, or those who slipped him to us are so smart?

                    My experience and my observations suggest to me that the more a person knows about what they are trying to provoke him about, the more such a provocation will fail. So they forgot for 90 years of godlessness what you need to know.
                    We must build everything so that people break their own spiritual core ...
                    And it is surprising that the enemy (Brzezinski) knows more about him than we do. Would listen at least sometimes ..
                    1. TUMAN
                      TUMAN 27 May 2013 00: 30 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Lynx
                      so as not to be mistaken and not to provoke people to throw off their protection so far.

                      You wanted to say slavery! Judeo-Christian slavery!
                      Quote: Lynx
                      I can’t understand one thing - are we such fools that we are refusing the state-forming and culture-forming religion

                      I repeat, but for you personally.
                      Religion simply dulls people, makes them weak-willed, submissive and fanatical. People who can’t think critically. The worst thing is that religions are a way of slavish thinking, this is a type of slavish psychology, these are false priorities, these are searches for the meaning of life that is useless to anyone, these are false psychos diagrams, these are false internal connections. In a word, religion is a gigantic mental and psychological virus that has been living for two thousand years and is fed by those who believe in it!
                      Quote: Lynx
                      They would listen at least sometimes.

                      Listen to what? To that?!
                      Gospel of Luke CHAPTER 14
                      verse 26. if someone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, and his wife and children, and brothers and sisters, and, moreover, his very life, he cannot be My disciple;
                      CHAPTER 12
                      verse 53. the father will be against the son, and the son against the father; mother versus daughter, and daughter versus mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
                      verse 52. for henceforth five in one house will be divided, three against two, and two against three:
                      verse 51. Do you think that I have come to give peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but separation;

                      Matthew - Chapter 10
                      34 Do not think that I came to bring peace to the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword,
                      35 for I came to divide the man with his father, and the daughter with her mother, and the daughter-in-law with her mother-in-law.
                      36 And ​​the enemies of man are his household.
                      I advise you to read this link.
                      http://www.a-theism.com/2013/02/blog-post_6003.html
                    2. alexandr00070
                      alexandr00070 27 May 2013 12: 54 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Lynx
                      I can’t understand one thing - are we such fools that we are refusing the state-forming and culture-forming religion,

                      There should not be a religion of the state and a culture-forming one, you live in the 21st century. And you cling to ancient tales about a wizard man, on the basis of whose adventures the gospels were created from all sorts of John, Matthews, etc., a religion would be good just wouldn't refuse the people are from it. Neither do we know (and the church records will not give a true answer) to the question of how the Russians lived under Christianity, because before Catherine the church was the largest landowner in Russia, and, accordingly, the holder of serfs. After all, money is flowing into the church from everywhere, according to the old Jewish tradition, it invests in circulation, and money is already making money, and Brzezinski is yours full, and thank God that they have such stupid ideologists, he predicted the death of Russia in the destruction of Orthodoxy, missing the main thing we they lived without religion for 80 years, smashed enemies in the tail and in the mane, and that religion that has arisen over the past 20 years, only remotely (only by name) resembles pre-revolutionary Orthodoxy, and it does not at all resemble the days of Sergius of Radonezh. These American fools do not understand that the main thing is the RUSSIAN SPIRIT, and not worship of the dead gods, therefore they will be beaten at any time, maybe not right away (because the spirit needs to be pissed off), but there will be beats unambiguously.
                      So Brzezinski is our man with the Americans, because they will spend billions on the destruction of what is not there, and thank God there will be less real weapons
                  2. GG2012
                    GG2012 27 May 2013 00: 20 New
                    -2
                    Quote: TUMAN
                    Gundyaeva generally brings!

                    "... And who were the Slavs? These are barbarians. Barbaras are people who say strange things. They are ... second-class people, these are almost animals ..."
                    Author: Kirilushka Gundyaev.

                    So they will remember him!
                    With this phrase alone, he insulted three great nations and millions of sober-minded people who have the power to understand the intricacies of Jewish information weapons to destroy Slavic identity.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 27 May 2013 00: 25 New
                      -1
                      Quote: GG2012
                      "... And who were the Slavs? These are barbarians. Barbaras are people who say strange things. They are ... second-class people, these are almost animals ..."
                      Author: Kirilushka Gundyaev.

                      Dear, well, you can’t treat the people on the site so badly.
                      I understand that it’s possible to pull out a more complicated phrase from the context, but this ... Anyone who knows the story in the scope of the school curriculum will immediately understand that it was about the attitude of the Romans towards their neighbors. To all, not just the Slavs.
                      1. GG2012
                        GG2012 27 May 2013 00: 34 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Dear, well, you can’t treat the people on the site so badly.

                        You still say that I pulled his tongue ... blurt out!
                        Quote: Spade
                        I understand that it’s possible to pull out a more complicated phrase from the context, but this ... Anyone who knows the story in the scope of the school curriculum will immediately understand that it was about the attitude of the Romans towards their neighbors. To all, not just the Slavs.

                        It reminded me of a joke in which Carlson said to the Kid "You didn’t understand everything correctly !!! It’s got me started from the starter!"

                        And I am familiar with History in the amount that exceeds several times the school course.

                        Respected
                      2. TUMAN
                        TUMAN 27 May 2013 00: 38 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        I understand that it’s possible to pull out a more complicated phrase from the context, but this ... Anyone who knows the story in the scope of the school curriculum will immediately understand that it was about the attitude of the Romans towards their neighbors. To all, not just the Slavs.

                        Dear, you do not need to call people schoolchildren, Gundyaev clearly speaks about the Slavs, And do not overshoot, like he didn’t want to say that and other nonsense! Gundyayev said clearly, the Slavs are second-class people!
                      3. fisherman
                        fisherman 27 May 2013 02: 43 New
                        0
                        re:

                        "

                        "Look at the statistics of crimes related to hazing in the army (remember about latency)."

                        Errors with the accuracy of localization of the problem lead at best to "they wanted the best, but it turned out ..." (that is, to a joke) and at worst to loss of personnel ...

                        bullying - nests in the entire young community ... that is why ass-kissed deviators meet the same bullying in the nearest night club ...

                        "The draft army is slavery in itself."

                        any human habit is slavery ... according to Comrade Confucius, slavery is much stronger than such human passions (feelings) as love and hate ... if you deal with all kinds of shackles in modern life, then only a person who is in unconsciousness ...

                        the civilization (culture) of society is determined by the observance of certain collective agreements (the concepts of good-evil common for the whole "herd" or the laws common for the whole "herd ... of habits)))

                        “There is an absolute erasure of individuality, the transformation of a person not just into a slave, but into a slice of protoplasm ready for everything.”

                        I feel that you have excellent intelligence ... I’m sure that you can easily answer a simple question that does not require excessive tension of your frontal gyrus:

                        - the right of the individual (or the will of the individual or private freedom) VS public law (or public interests or eg collegiality) are eternal antagonists ... so, which of these principles is the primary source of despotism-totalitarianism-Stalinism? ..

                        “But I can talk about the quality of the omelet, although I have never laid a single egg” - of course, you can ... along with comrade Shaw ... even a small child can eat ... but to grow and cook dishes - it's a little bit different :)
                        "
                    2. alexandr00070
                      alexandr00070 27 May 2013 13: 02 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      Anyone who knows history in the volume of the school curriculum will immediately understand that it was a question of the attitude of the Romans towards their neighbors. To all, not just the Slavs.

                      Listen to the interview, it was about the Slavs-barbarians (second-class people) who came to Cyril and Methodius in order to teach the mind the mind, so do not simplify the problem. And what's more, engage in polemics based only on knowledge of the school curriculum .................... by the way for six months, you were the first to reprimand Kirillushka,
  • fenix57
    fenix57 26 May 2013 07: 10 New
    23
    Somehow everything is in gloomy tones, comrade author. Is it really so bad for you.
    Maybe fatigue affects ...
    It seems to me in the subject:
    -The family had two children - one pessimist, and the other optimist. New Year is coming. Their parents decided to "level", so that there weren’t such extremes, and prepared gifts: a pessimist’s horse, and an optimist’s pile of horse manure. In the morning, the children wake up ...
    Pessimist:
    - Hyyy, horse ... Small, but I wanted big ... brown, and I wanted gray in apples ... Woody, and I wanted liveyyyyuyuyu ...
    Optimist:
    - A y me alive! Just run away!

    A conversation between a pessimist and an optimist. The pessimist is aching: "As everything got tired, already
    the third day I do not get enough sleep, as much as possible. "Optimist with a smile:" On that
    sleep well. "Pessimist:" So you still have to live to it "...
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 26 May 2013 07: 21 New
      16
      Quote: fenix57
      A conversation between a pessimist and an optimist.

      Pessimist-Well, everything will not get worse request crying negative Optimist -Will be good drinks fellow wassat
      1. horoh
        horoh 26 May 2013 09: 01 New
        +6
        Even if everything gets worse, it's all garbage, everything will break through exactly !!!!!! drinks
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 May 2013 07: 26 New
    +5
    The article is suitable for journalism, but not for HE. For any courses in psychology.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 26 May 2013 08: 02 New
      +5
      in-in, suicidal article, a feeling that the author is under serious withdrawal symptoms.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 26 May 2013 08: 26 New
        +4
        Yes, such an article is no good.
        The author of this opus, it seems, also does not care.
        ..
        Intuitively I know what this means - "...sales his term is hellishly exhausting .. ",
        but I would like to hear explanations from the author.
        Sale, prey, chinook salmon, bull, shepherd ..
        I even guess that Alexey Kravetsky rather just made a repost from somewhere, but still interesting.
        ..
        Here is max73 below, confirmed my doubts - the author is something ... from the Matrix. Programmer, in the brain.
        No wonder everyone cares.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 May 2013 07: 30 New
    +8
    Yes, read men come in handy ... The brain has a good property, it forgets all unnecessary
  • Just Vasilich
    Just Vasilich 26 May 2013 07: 30 New
    18
    Author: this happens initially, because the work, city and country are actually not quite their own. They want to feel their own, but the feeling collapses under the pressure of the realization that all this is some very complicated tools for wringing and laundering money by third parties whose intentions are foggy and mercantile.

    In my opinion, this is the essence of the problem raised by the author.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 26 May 2013 07: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Just Vasilich
      In my opinion, this is the essence of the problem,

      it was possible for the author to put it shorter
      1. Just Vasilich
        Just Vasilich 26 May 2013 08: 30 New
        +5
        Donchepano: it was possible for the author and shorter to state this

        The author went the way of describing various manifestations of the phenomenon of indifference in our everyday life. There were many manifestations - hence the volume of the article ...

        Still to pay attention to the reasons for the heyday of indifference, but this requires civic courage ... and the amount of material hi
        1. fisherman
          fisherman 26 May 2013 08: 44 New
          10
          forgive my indiscretion, but it seems to me that just the reasons for the universal (as the author put it) nonsense are very easily identified - this is the public "value-priority" that appeared in the early 90's - "the main thing is money" :)

          and this maxim very easily entered our everyday life, because it seemed to us all that it was the invisible hand of the market that would turn Soviet society into a Western-type society ...
    2. sams
      sams 26 May 2013 10: 57 New
      +8
      "If the goal is still great, then the Russian commits a feat with a striking scope. But if there is no goal or it is unworthy or unfair, then he absolutely does not care."
      And why be surprised if instead of the National Idea we have launched such a program:
      (without decryption)
      I. Retention of power
      II. Ideology
      III. Denationalization
      IV. Elimination of freedom of activity
      V. Inhibition of development
      VI. Destruction of the enemy by assimilation as a humane form of genocide
      VII. Bringing and maintaining in an atmosphere of poverty and lack of rights
      Viii. Mass debilitation
      IX. Psychotropic combat drugs that change the human psyche
      X. Methods of Enough Mass Etching
      Xi. Reduction of numbers to reasonable limits by hidden forms of genocide in secret unilateral war
      XII. Open genocide reduction
      Xiii. Destruction of the enemy by controlled medicine
      Xiv. Actions through controlled media
      Xv. Widespread and daily mockery of the enemy
  • max73
    max73 26 May 2013 07: 39 New
    +9
    not for labeling ... "Alexey Kravetsky
    Born in 1978 in Moscow. Programmer, publicist, blogger ... "the author of the article outside the MKAD needs to get out more often.
    1. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 26 May 2013 20: 56 New
      0
      My God, at such a young age and with such a depresnyak ?! Apparently, to the author of the article the concept of internal discipline and self-organization is unusual, there is a lack of army roots in any manifestation. Which of the military commissars are there?
  • alexdol
    alexdol 26 May 2013 07: 47 New
    +6
    Unfortunately, we must admit that much of what the author writes about is the place to be!
    But this doesn’t seem to apply to Military Review ...
  • My address
    My address 26 May 2013 07: 48 New
    19
    The article in the topic of HE. Hypertrophied, evil, but true. Rod, there is no incentive for many. Here are the satellites of phobos-soil in the ground, foolishly lit tank with ammunition drags to the gas station another tank with ammunition, the commander (OFFICER!) Extorts money from his pilots. This is all skinny work that at the level of theft. And, first of all, the thin work of those who are obliged to offer the people a worthy goal. And how can they offer this, if the people say - Volodya, you look around who you are in your inner circle, first teach them patriotism and teach them not to fall apart!
  • treskoed
    treskoed 26 May 2013 07: 50 New
    -6
    The article is sheer tediousness, especially on Sunday! In the morning! In the spring!
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 26 May 2013 16: 48 New
      +3
      Do not trust anyone .. especially cons ..
      I'm with you ... break through.
      1. treskoed
        treskoed 26 May 2013 22: 37 New
        -1
        Break through, of course! What about the cons? So, there are no indifferent! This makes me happy!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 May 2013 07: 56 New
    +8
    Interesting, Maybe even true, but for Moscow. I have long been convinced that Russia and Moscow are different countries.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 26 May 2013 21: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      Interesting, Maybe even true, but for Moscow

      And what, in the village of Gadyukino, someone increases productivity, straightened rickety fences and patched leaky roofs? Just for Moscow this is not very true. There are, of course, individual responsible comrades, but the deeper into the province, the more relevant the article. If you are in the province and carefully look around.
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 26 May 2013 21: 39 New
        +1
        I am constantly in the provinces, and I can confirm the thesis of Gardamir ...

        where there are fewer modern intellectuals, traditional foundations are stronger ...
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 27 May 2013 21: 44 New
          -2
          Quote: fisherman
          I am constantly in the provinces, and I can confirm the thesis of Gardamir ...

          And what is the ellipsis? Not sure what you can confirm? What are the provincial villages you visit?

          Quote: fisherman
          where there are fewer modern intellectuals, traditional foundations are stronger ...

          Again the ellipsis! It seems to me that you are that modern intellectual? :) In the Dagestan countryside, the traditional foundations are stronger than in the middle lane. Do not we have intellectuals in the village? Or do lovers of moonshine and port wine now fall into the intellectuals?
          1. alexandr00070
            alexandr00070 27 May 2013 22: 28 New
            0
            Quote: bot.su
            Do not we have intellectuals in the village? Or do lovers of moonshine and port wine now fall into the intellectuals?

            Yes, you are an enemy now, millions of people have offended those who feed and water you (by the way, they are not lovers of moonshine and port), remember the BOTAN village is not only collective farms, but also a place of residence and rest from the city and such BOTAN people like you who turned cities into psychological trash. Where traditions are strong, they don’t sing by the way, they just work for themselves, the family and the state. And by the way, in the village there are a lot of intellectuals (not corrupt liberal intelligentsia), namely intellectuals with unspoiled politics and city life looking at our reality. By the way, the great classics could create their works in the village.
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 27 May 2013 23: 48 New
              -2
              Quote: alexandr00070
              Yes, you are an enemy now millions of people have offended

              Hear you, offended, you don’t decide for a million!

              You can’t understand what people are talking about, so you ask, it’s easier to explain to you. You tell me about those who feed me and intellectuals, do not tell me, even though I’m a nerd, in my youth I did not only maintain my athletic form in the gym, but also in the field and on haymaking. And now I often visit rural areas, and not in the suburbs, although I have been there before.
              I don’t know what they don’t sing about, where traditions are strong. Maybe they don’t drink all the same? recourse
              In general, I approve of patriotism! But I advise, while relaxing from the city, to read those classics about whom you broadcast! Even if you don’t understand, you’ll at least learn the Russian language, “intellectual”. And this, do not rummage in the city for psychological garbage. Go to the museum, the theater, the library, change your circle of friends.
              The country needs cultural, educated people.
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 26 May 2013 08: 02 New
    +6
    There are fair points in the article, but most are clearly exaggerated and can generally be attributed to almost any country in the world.
    But still in Russia, much needs to be changed and redone, which would be human.
    Well, you need to start with yourself - if everyone does a little good thing, then the overall contribution will be huge.
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 26 May 2013 08: 47 New
      +1
      absolutely ...

      that is, the "theory of small affairs" and at least one "sacrificial generation" ...
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 26 May 2013 11: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: fisherman
        that is, the "theory of small affairs" and at least one "sacrificial generation" ...

        Yes, don’t even have to sacrifice ... just do it for yourself.
        For example, there is such a stereotype about rickety fences in Russia. Well, the truth is, you can often stumble upon this phenomenon. But if the owner would have taken and made a fence and the others followed his example, then no one would have poked more that "they say that you have rickety fences".
        1. fisherman
          fisherman 26 May 2013 17: 25 New
          +4
          just an exaggerated name - it is easy to remember, and besides, really, when you explain it, for many it looks like a VICTIM :))

          the state should correct the fences for them, they themselves are intended only for high purposes - for example, to reform the Kremlin :)

          by the way, a very revealing comment -

          "the wealth of the people of the USSR has already been sawn, divided and the divide is legalized, that is, getting rich quickly will not work. Getting rich working hard is also impossible, due to the corruption of the state. And wealth is the highest value of modern Russia" (c)

          it was he who got the most votes +

          these are stupid Finns and Germans are looking for "slow" solutions, but ours are only interested in the slogan of the temporary workers - "here and now" ... such a disaster, this demon has long been inside us ...

          only victim
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 26 May 2013 08: 02 New
    +4
    I put the article in a plus, everything is true, especially here: “In any institution, whether it is public or private, you will hardly find people who work. More precisely, many are busy with something, and many are even busy with what seems to be partly to do However, the inefficiency of their work is so high that their occupation looks more like a cynical mockery of these very duties, as if the whole company consists entirely of satirists furiously jiving over the production process.
    An official who hesitates over administrative work does not entertain visitors at all - he tries to humiliate them in every possible way. Instead of helping them, visitors who, it is possible, are here for the first time and, of course, don’t know how and what is customary to draw up, the official yells at them, they constantly need to redo, rewrite, re-register something, although he himself, it’s not able to clearly list what is required of them. "
  • Lecha57
    Lecha57 26 May 2013 08: 10 New
    +8
    I completely agree. To a greater extent, managers and officials at all levels are more likely to pretend that they are working. To a greater extent they are engaged in their personal affairs.
  • taseka
    taseka 26 May 2013 08: 31 New
    +3
    "All this is a consequence of the fact that everyone does not care. People don’t care what they do or how they do it." - the author somehow took it and fucked everyone up! Not everyone cares!
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 26 May 2013 11: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: taseka
      "All this is a consequence of the fact that everyone does not care. People don’t care what they do or how they do it." - the author somehow took it and fucked everyone up! Not everyone cares!

      He probably lives on a cloud, does not eat, does not drink, does not pee, does not poop, does not wash, does not use transport, electricity, the Internet, the phone, does not watch TV, walks barefoot and naked.
      Or he is the same as everyone, uses everything, but believes that all this appears and works by itself or is created by a miracle.
      Mr. nation must be sent from time to time to rest in the northern resorts, ride cars, cut down forests, mine stone, or at least do seasonal agricultural work so that they cease to live in a world of illusions, learn about reality and do not cry out for the Russian people.
  • Igarr
    Igarr 26 May 2013 08: 38 New
    +8
    Hi guys.
    Went on Saturday to Moscow, to the bank.
    To the duty office.
    So, surprisingly, the young woman completed her work in such a detailed, qualified way - without screaming, without the need to redo it, without instructions - Read, Read, I’m not going to work for you.
    I emphasize - on SATURDAY. In Moscow.
    True, it was at Varshavka, 95. Which is almost the same - ZAMKADYU, where, as you know - there is no life.
    .
    The author is a system administrator. As they say - I give a tooth.
    Only this category of specialists has the highest degree of self-conceit, self-worth.
    Only sysadmins work, all the rest are malicious pests with crooked hands, dreaming only about FreeCelle. (Computer Solitaire if anyone is not up to date.)
    And, since I myself am a LAN engineer, I know this category - always vicious and displeased.
    There are exceptions. Although it pleases. "And I have a living, just ran away !!!"
    .
    Let's live guys!
    Especially in the morning on Sunday.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 26 May 2013 11: 39 New
      +1
      Well, a bank employee should help clients - this is his job. In the same way, employees of other institutions should be polite and help customers, this is their responsibility. Moreover, we live under capitalism, and in this system the client always votes in rubles and if he gets naughty somewhere, then he will no longer come to this place and tell his friends that they would not come.
      Therefore, the idea of ​​widespread rudeness is clearly sucked from the finger. If somewhere and they are naughty then this is a rare exception.
  • old rats
    old rats 26 May 2013 08: 38 New
    +2
    not all, but many. I agree with the author.
  • s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 26 May 2013 08: 46 New
    +3
    The author is definitely depressed. I got stuck on one side, and there are so many of them.
  • fisherman
    fisherman 26 May 2013 08: 53 New
    +4
    there is one drawback of the article, no offense to the author, it was necessary with the same worldly wisdom to indicate a way to dramatically increase the "work efficiency" in the field - I'm talking about banknotes ...

    so, as soon as you show them, then this same nonsense does not just disappear, instead of it an unprecedented zeal appears ...

    I won’t be surprised if, in their free time from their direct studies, these indifferents angrily denounce corrupt and thieving businessmen-deputies-officials on the Internet.
    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 26 May 2013 22: 07 New
      +3
      He was convinced more than once, an increase in the payment of banknotes increases ostentatious zeal, and then for a couple of months, then comes the repetition - "pay little, what do you want from us for such a small salary?"
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 26 May 2013 23: 18 New
        0
        Well, yes ... that is why for our civil society, spiritual bonds are an order of magnitude more important than material achievements, it’s only people with teenage brains who need to pour money on everything ...
  • horoh
    horoh 26 May 2013 09: 03 New
    0
    Interestingly, does the author of the article have a favorite hobby?
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 26 May 2013 09: 19 New
    13
    Interestingly fellow
    It seems that all smart people and everyone reads the same text, but everyone understands their own.
    I saw the core idea of ​​the material in this:

    "If we see that beyond our deed not worth some idea - feed everyone, give everyone housing, discover, walk, accomplish something global, come in the distant future somewhere, where we went now, then everyone will not care ".

    In one form or another, the author repeats it several times.
    The topic is generally serious. Individualism, as history has shown, abhors us. We need a messianic, just idea of ​​society. Her is dumb. From this - do not care.
    In addition, the author "walked" on the right liberal ideology. Which preaches, as a panacea, equality of opportunity, "each for himself," "the law for all," etc.

    "Perhaps other nations know a way to work well just for the money. But we can't do that."

    Article plus. Very consonant with my thoughts hi
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 26 May 2013 17: 35 New
      0
      in the Message for the first time it was said about spiritual bonds (they are also called vertical or questions of Quality, not quantity)
  • carver
    carver 26 May 2013 09: 39 New
    +4
    The author is right, and not only in the apparatus of officials. With the advent of the concept of manager, the entire labor process gradually falls into turning real work into a dig process from here to lunch.
  • a
    a 26 May 2013 09: 44 New
    +4
    maybe the author described everything a little lyrically, but on the whole everything is correct. the main problems, we are not masters of our own, our work. laziness and do not care. mass paternalistic minded people. and the state does nothing to rectify the situation. Moreover, the state partly such a state of affairs is even more profitable such "non-owners" are easier to manage
  • rexby63
    rexby63 26 May 2013 09: 46 New
    +1
    Worthy, fair purpose


    Without a doubt. Article plus.
    And I allow myself - that most of our fellow citizens do not care, Putin is undoubtedly to blame. Gentlemen anti-Putinists, "deflection" is counted?
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 26 May 2013 11: 05 New
      +7
      Putin is undoubtedly to blame for the fact that most of our fellow citizens do not care

      Of course, he was to blame, and not some Siberian Cranes, they were in the south all winter.
      The cat left the kittens.
      This is Putin's fault.
      The hare was thrown by the mistress.
      Guilty Guess!
      Here ends the board
      The poor bull.
      Our Tanya is crying loudly.
      Near Putin, not otherwise.
      The light went out, the fence fell,
      The car stalled motor
      Healthy tooth removed
      Ile climbed into the apartment thief
      Did not like the movie,
      You have come to r ... but.
      Any cataclysm
      One explanation:
      Every democrat knows
      This is Putin's fault!
      1. rexby63
        rexby63 26 May 2013 11: 38 New
        0
        For a Jewess who shot the leader
        For the fact that she missed
  • Body
    Body 26 May 2013 09: 51 New
    +6
    a very necessary article, this is exactly what lies in my head for quite some time. Now I will have something to refer to !!! Yes, I’d better keep it in my text if the article is suddenly deleted. Thanks to the author!
  • aviamed90
    aviamed90 26 May 2013 09: 52 New
    10
    The author is a plus.

    Most of the population is in a state of indifference. Especially rural areas.
    And blaming the author for depression does not make sense if the fact is the place to be! Not the author to blame! It just describes the problem.
    1. horoh
      horoh 26 May 2013 10: 05 New
      +5
      Well, no one accuses the author of the article in depress, by and large. The problem of "do not care" really exists to a greater degree in the departure of society from spiritual values ​​to more and more imposing "values" of consumption and the so-called tolerance.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 26 May 2013 10: 55 New
      +4
      Most of the population is in a state of indifference. Especially rural areas.

      Rural areas cannot be in a state of indifference, you won’t drown in the village, you won’t rush there, there are no supermarkets there, you have to feed yourself. A cow or a pig is not a machine; you cannot turn it off.
      The same applies to most of the population, utilities, transport, shops, factories, power plants, etc. etc. work. All that we consume is done by hands, and not from the sky fell. Miracles do not happen and the old Hottabychs do not see something
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 26 May 2013 11: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: aviamed90
      Most of the population is in a state of indifference. Especially rural areas.


      They don’t know such words because in the modern village, indifference is death. There, people just fight for life
  • lecturer
    lecturer 26 May 2013 09: 57 New
    -4
    Respected author Alexei Kravetsky! As you already got your "funeral marches" !!!
    If you DO NOT have (!) Business proposals, then please (!) Do not come to our defense center “on a visit” ... Russian readers have already “cried”. Only the Pentagon giggles ... and rub their hands. No, I’m not saying that you are part-time with them for such “literature” (DO NOT pull!), BUT (!) ... what the hell doesn’t joke, WHO do you work for?
    YES, and the trouble is not “what are you croaking and from which feeder do you slurp”, THE TROUBLE is that our young generation drop their hands because of such “piss-misi-mists” and don’t want to change everything for the better! You have “UMA then, NOT enough for business advice or conversations !!!”, but scattered .. after scraps thrown out of the pentagon for such pissssacks - the thing has been shown more than once (“for bolt croaks”)!
    BITCH ... YOU !!! AND ALL TO YOU DO NOT ...
    1. Body
      Body 26 May 2013 10: 05 New
      +7
      I do not agree. The author points to a VERY TOPICAL problem !!! which our people do not even notice. This is a disaster nationwide.

      I would add here that labor efficiency is killed by unnecessary work. A bunch of people go to study for managers and other plankton. And well, if they were studying, and most people just pay money to get a crust later. The level of education of the people is low.

      It infuriates me how the drivers tell me how they dig gasoline, how a guy in the army stole everything that lies and was in business with the head of the department. And such a situation is ubiquitous and is considered as + in karma, like "not a sucker."

      Everyone thinks only of themselves. In general, people can be understood - the state in the 90s really raped them and now it’s like revenge. But there were reasons for that ..

      Continuing to ruin the state taking care only of oneself is impossible. This state is us, we need to understand this.
      1. lecturer
        lecturer 26 May 2013 10: 32 New
        +2
        My dear, "Body", now the discussions are held at lightning speed and immediately on the air, SO do not rush to "dirt" to plant in the streets ... OUR children to follow us !!! If there are (and they certainly ARE!) Failures, etc. ... "Moscow wasn’t built right away ..." DO NOT HURRY to rant to the whole World ... HERE (according to the rules of capitalism (!) "Anti-advertising" against US will be created , all of Russia, all of our people !!! AND WHAT ARE YOU entitled to THIS ??????????
        PS "Let them stick democracy into themselves ...!"
        1. lecturer
          lecturer 26 May 2013 11: 30 New
          +4
          And I want to add! As for the billions of bucks, in the Pentagon, for the introduction of the “marsh” thinking of peoples within Russia. If you look "on the right" on your screen, you will see, in addition to the Armata tanks ... some of the strange articles, like "What could be the last and terrible war between Russia and the United States." Read carefully, the same manner of "pissimism ..." And as for, anyway, WE will win (?) - THIS is to make our reader a little "happy" that WE ...
          In a word, THERE ARE THEY (!) GUYS from the Pentagon ...
          PS From the article:
          "... And you know that guy?
          You will stop them. Yes, yes, that’s exactly what you’ll do, and then you will stop them again in another place, and then you will drive them back, and remember my word, stick a flag in the ruins of their capital. "


          THINK RUSSIAN MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 26 May 2013 11: 39 New
            +4
            Vasilich, shake my hand ....
            I will fully support - we do not need whiners!
            We ourselves are whiners - give the way.
    2. tttttt
      tttttt 26 May 2013 15: 25 New
      +2
      No, wait, dear, why are you chasing him from the defense industry for everyone? A normal article, the more the author clearly conveyed the main idea, and I personally completely agree with him. But the thought is that a Russian person cannot live without a great goal. As the saying goes, give the Russian boy a map of the starry sky, and he will give it to you corrected in the morning. Good luck. I have the honor. wink
  • zol1
    zol1 26 May 2013 10: 08 New
    -8
    We can agree on something, but overall this is a Jewish article about the worthlessness of the Russian nation and the need to free up the space it occupies for the chosen Jews of God !!!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 May 2013 10: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: carver
    The author is right, and not only in the apparatus of officials. With the advent of the concept of manager, the entire labor process gradually falls into turning real work into a dig process from here to lunch.

    I agree.!! Any work should bring satisfaction .. but not a dumb concept of how we get hammered in making money .. and then buy something .. Sometimes you think you solve problems and even talk in a dream at night (my wife listened ..) .. then it worked out !! although they don’t pay money for it, but still proud inside .. (though the wife is bustling ..) winked For money it’s good to work of course .. only they kill creativity ..
  • fenix57
    fenix57 26 May 2013 10: 26 New
    +6
    Quote: treskoed
    especially on sunday! In the morning! In the spring!

    Spring, morning, sunday ...:
    A sick pessimist asks how much he has left to live with a cuckoo.
    A sick optimist - at the woodpecker.



    Optimists invented the plane, pessimists - the catapult and anti-aircraft guns;
    Optimists invented the car, pessimists - airbags, traffic lights and traffic cops;
    Optimists invented a chainsaw, pessimists - prosthetics of limbs;
    Optimists invented God, pessimists described hell in detail;
    Optimists cooked caramel, pessimists invented a drill.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 May 2013 10: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: fenix57
    Quote: treskoed
    especially on sunday! In the morning! In the spring!

    Spring, morning, sunday ...:
    A sick pessimist asks how much he has left to live with a cuckoo.
    A sick optimist - at the woodpecker.



    Optimists invented the plane, pessimists - the catapult and anti-aircraft guns;
    Optimists invented the car, pessimists - airbags, traffic lights and traffic cops;
    Optimists invented a chainsaw, pessimists - prosthetics of limbs;
    Optimists invented God, pessimists described hell in detail;
    Optimists cooked caramel, pessimists invented a drill.

    laughing
  • shinobi
    shinobi 26 May 2013 10: 39 New
    +4
    It seems that the author on the eve of a little overdid it in outdoor activities. In short, a friend's hangover.
  • Meaning
    Meaning 26 May 2013 10: 41 New
    +4
    Give people a worthy goal, preferably unifying, and we will turn the mountains
    1. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 26 May 2013 21: 10 New
      0
      Yes, yes! It’s the mountains! And also, give us at least something! And then we have both hands and heads ..., in short GIVE !!! This consumer relationship comes from somewhere, why an adult, a man is not able to decide something himself, for example, where to work and how to do it. Why someone should give something to someone, but they haven’t tried to live with their own heads! IMHO there is no other way to get rid of such depresnyak, sorry, the doctors have it!
  • Tartary
    Tartary 26 May 2013 10: 44 New
    +5
    There is no state ideology for the people, there is no goal where society should develop, hence the feeling of the routine of life ...
    Leased other people's goals and values, the Russian people are alien and have been crushing for more than 20 years ...

    I personally feel the inevitable war, as it were, that this is the only way out of the gloom of the soul, in view of the stolen goal, for which ideologists of the USSR have been preparing people like me for more than 20 years ...

    I will forget sadness, sadness, longing
    And I'll go to the fair
    To the fun fair of miracles
    I’ll ride through the mountains, through the forest,
    To the fun fair of miracles ...

    The Anglo-Saxon "life fair" is sick, and the old one, on which the soul sang and danced, and from Monday to work as a holiday, will obviously not be returned ...

    Or is there still hope? Huh guys?
    1. a
      a 26 May 2013 10: 51 New
      -4
      to live well- does this mean leased other people's values? and what are our values ​​then? live in a dermis, stand in lines, buy in a trihoroda from farmers ??
      and when we have people from Monday to work as a holiday that went ??? even in Soviet times, this was not. even with the union there was a saying "Monday is a hard day."
      I would like to disappoint you - for you there is no hope of returning to that dim and gray life with products on cards.
  • The centurion
    The centurion 26 May 2013 10: 45 New
    +8
    I read the article and as if I was younger by twenty five-thirty years. In those years, such writings would have gone out in Ogonyok or in Arguments and Facts. There were such perestroika publications, working in the field of merciless, emotional and scientific criticism of everything and everyone. They took the truth as a basis, added conjectures and fantasies of the authors abundantly, then multiplied it all into the grotesque. The then office plankton (numerous employees of research institutes, design bureaus, all kinds of sharashka, professors, students, etc.) in kitchens and at work, discussing such publications, brought themselves to orgasm. Such was the popular fun of the then creative class, more like political masturbation.
    A little pity the author. Born late in the day. And it would be quite possible to become an active Yeltsinoid or Gaidarost, even one of the founding fathers of the Yabloko party or the foreman of perestroika. However, there is a similar public now, but it does not hang around VO, but mainly around the “Ear of Moscow”, etc. There such a publication would possibly gain more advantages, although it is also not a fact. Therefore, it seems that the author not only relishes the shortcomings, but also would like them not to exist, but does not know how to do it. And this "Wuhu Moscow" does not roll, they have another task, to enjoy, at least. In general, when you read these critical publications, the question immediately arises. WHY is it written? The reasons are different and diametrically opposite.
    1. Open the ulcer and try to cure it.
    2. To be disturbed
    3. Activate and incorporate all the ideas and tools of NIHILISM for self-destruction and self-destruction of the existing not ideal, but quite real and productive society

    In addition, always involuntarily pay attention to the author's name. It's no secret that the majority of critics, humorists, satirists, anonymists, revolutionaries, Protestants ...... are they mostly people of a certain nationality or their half-breeds? Nor should NEVER forget the commandments of King Solomon to Jews living in the diaspora:
    "Slyly and hypocritically, sow unbelief and doubt around you, blaspheme and sneaky, depravity and vices, ridicule the customs and customs of Goya, their language and beliefs, make Goya landless"
    Carefully read each word, attach to it your life experience and knowledge, the experience of others, and YOU may find a universal decoder and answering machine for the eternal question: why is it written?
  • individual
    individual 26 May 2013 10: 46 New
    10
    Author Alexey Kravetsky, yes you need a friend to a psychiatrist turn to.
    Or do you communicate with the contingent, where several Napoleons live and green people live.
    I am retired, I am over 60 years old, I live an active life. As far as possible I help children, grandchildren. We live all separately. Rare minutes of meetings turn into family holidays, neighbors always come to share their joys, problems. Children pay a mortgage for housing, so the situation with payments does not allow to relax.
    Drunkards, addicts, thank God there are neither among relatives nor among neighbors. Living has always been difficult. And honestly, human life is always overcoming difficulties. If there are no problems, then you have died.
    The purpose of everyone’s life should be a worthy way out of any life situation. When our life’s problem is overcome, I always hug my wife and say:"Look, we did it!" And I hug her often.
    1. Orchestrarant
      Orchestrarant 26 May 2013 10: 52 New
      +4
      +++ Bravo, support! good
    2. lecturer
      lecturer 26 May 2013 11: 43 New
      +8
      Dear 60 year old brother! Thank you for staying with us in the ranks !!!
    3. djon3volta
      djon3volta 26 May 2013 13: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: individ
      Living has always been difficult.

      difficult to live - more interesting to live. I think so.
      when it’s easy to live - then really do not care. to see the author is boring to live, because there are no problems. probably the author of these

      1. Armata
        Armata 26 May 2013 15: 47 New
        +4
        Nothing in the song, that you have 0 intelligence. It is indicative of a video, especially about a prostitute, but the wife is on the side. Dumb animal fool
      2. Arberes
        Arberes 26 May 2013 15: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: djon3volta
        difficult to live - more interesting to live. I think so.

        Your logic is incomparable!

        Nam United Russia shines in the twilight of nights
        Life is getting better and more fun.
        We are led by the hand of a tandem - revealing miracles!
        Only the light of Ed-Ra blinding us does not warm ...!

        How many plans and searches, there are big thoughts about the PEOPLE.
        But so far we have not seen any changes!
        Life is getting better with huckster officials!
        Well, we’re all the more fun-we want to cry sobbing!

        First of all, one must live worthily, calmly and with confidence in the future!
      3. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 27 May 2013 00: 13 New
        +1
        this song is about 15 years old, then he stuck over the Pepsi generation, and now it’s many times worse ...
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 26 May 2013 10: 47 New
    +2

    In any institution, whether it is public or private, you will hardly find people who work. More precisely, there are many busy with something, and many are even busy with what is partly similar to the performance of official duties. However, the inefficiency of their work is so high that their occupation looks more like a cynical mockery of these very duties.


    The article is not bad, but it is not clear why the author is trying to hang everything only in Russian and in Russia?
    All his critical conclusions and attacks are applicable to any country, all people do not like to work if they do not see direct benefits for themselves.
    Good leaders and organizers are not enough everywhere, not because they are few in nature, but because it is rarely encouraged, more often the opposite - the initiative is punishable.
    In the USSR, before perestroika, the attitude to work was different than now, they worked for themselves, and not for the owners. Now we have everything almost like under capitalism, as described in the book by A. Haley "Wheels", "Monday and Friday cars."
  • sso-xnumx
    sso-xnumx 26 May 2013 10: 50 New
    +6
    “Many clinics have already had computers for a long time, but patient cards are still paper. Doctors write something in them by hand, they paste new sheets there, they write the same thing a hundred times, although the computer is already on their desk. "
    Author Alexey Kravetsky

    It seems that the author himself sometimes does not understand or does not know the subject of his criticism.
    Patient cards are still paper because God forbid, they cut off the electricity, why the hell you can download or write from a computer, and you need to accept patients and the patient’s card is a history of his illnesses. The doctor cannot remember what each of his patients was sick with - there are hundreds of them. And most importantly - ALL MEDICAL DOCUMENTS ARE WRITTEN NOT FOR THE SICK OR DOCTOR, but FOR THE PROSECUTOR AND THE INVESTIGATOR !!!
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 26 May 2013 16: 02 New
      -1
      And ..to the author .. don’t ...
      he does not understand that the electronic can always be faked, broken, distorted.
      And here - the names of the doctors, their style - on paper - will remain. For a long time.
      There is always someone to plant.
      If there is nothing to reward.
      ..
      To the author - do not care.
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  • shurup
    shurup 26 May 2013 10: 53 New
    +4
    Chicken duty to peck and sweep. Do not care for chickens in soup.
    I somehow woke up dawn and woke up in the high sun with a feeling of something not done. Chickens did not let out! He ran as he was, in some trunks, opened the door, and the chickens are sitting with this look: "Like, man, we’ve been two hours already, how should we peck, and you!" Naturally, I had to apologize to them and promise not to do that again.
    But man - it sounds proudly, and nihilists fall into nihilism.
    1. Horde
      Horde 26 May 2013 13: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: shurup
      But man - it sounds proudly, and nihilists fall into nihilism.


      Well, you painted the picture "a proud man in shorts, apologizes to the hens at night" - this is not proud laughing
  • Airman
    Airman 26 May 2013 11: 38 New
    +2
    Very pessimistic article. Apparently, someone really wants to see us like that. Explicitly a custom article.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 26 May 2013 11: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: Povshnik
      Very pessimistic article. Apparently, someone really wants to see us like that. Explicitly a custom article.


      Today I have the first day of rest, he is the last day of vacation, I would have missed this writer in the apprentice, at first with a spatula and then with a shovel .....



  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 May 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    Here’s another thought Berezovsky (a world-class scammer) has been gnawing at for a long time .. he "hungered for Russia" Litvinenko "the traitor" his father also repented for his son and himself .. usually all these "figures" end badly ... and the special services have nothing to do with it. ..Abramovich (the chief of Chukotka) sits quietly .. bastard .. !! and others too ..
  • astra
    astra 26 May 2013 12: 08 New
    +5
    In any institution, whether it is public or private, you will hardly find people who work. More precisely, there are many busy with something, and many are even busy with what is partly similar to the performance of official duties. However, the inefficiency of their work is so high that their occupation looks more like a cynical mockery of these very duties.

    That's what I watch young people striving to become officials, lawyers, economists and other cabinet work. But for technical specialties, factories, enterprises, where few people want to work with their hands. And what is interesting from the TV screens, these same officials, politicians and other white-collar workers argue, urge people to go to factories, enterprises, technical specialties and discourage them from going to work in those jobs where they themselves work, obviously guided by the principle that the main thing I got is "took a place in the sun" and the rest is up to me
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 26 May 2013 21: 46 New
      +1
      lost generation...
  • Normal
    Normal 26 May 2013 12: 20 New
    +1
    The article identifies a problem. The problem is real. Those who do not want to see this problem claim that it does not exist, AND IT IS! Yes, to a greater extent in Moscow, but this only makes it worse, since the processes are more intense in large cities and what is happening in Moscow today, tomorrow - everywhere.
    Opponents and critics of the author are either in a state of optimistic optimism and do not want to admit the obvious, or they read the article diagonally, and, as the article correctly noted, they do not want to make an effort, mentally strain in order to understand the meaning.
    Article plus.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 26 May 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    In my opinion, the author of this article needs to sleep and rest. fool
  • lecturer
    lecturer 26 May 2013 12: 37 New
    +3
    From Articles
    However, their position is similar to that of a sailor on a sinking ship, watching the rest of the crew sipping a seagull and lazily discussing the color of the boatswain's boots. After all, they are not alone in their work, in their city, in their country. And universal indifference drags them into its abyss.

    The author of this article just "sips a seagull and lazily discusses the color of the boatswain's boots ...", CONSIDERING HIMSELF "defeated." Sorry for him, better read this statement:
    You consider yourself defeated - and you are defeated
    You consider yourself not worthy - and you are not worthy,
    You consider yourself a loser - and you lose,
    But you could succeed if you knew
    That it begins with the will to win
    And only one Who gains faith in himself will win!
    You consider yourself too weak - and you are too weak
    You consider yourself a failure - and you are a failure
    You consider yourself hurt - and you hurt
    But you could succeed if you knew
    That he begins with self-confidence
    Believe me, and success will find you!
    Remember the simple truth:
    If you want to reach the goal,
    Only go forward, without looking back, without turning off the path,
    And believe: you deserve to find your happiness!

    Walter D. Wintle
    1. Normal
      Normal 26 May 2013 13: 56 New
      0
      Quote: morpod
      The author of this article just "sips a seagull and lazily discusses the color of the boatswain's boots ...", CONSIDERING HIMSELF "defeated."

      This is just your speculation. The author states the fact, but does not approve and promotes it.
      Your desire to defame the author only confirms his innocence and your desire to shut up, ignore this problem.
      Yes, not everyone succumbed to indifference and indifference, but the fact that this phenomenon exists and that it is widespread is undoubted.
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 26 May 2013 15: 31 New
      0
      Quote: morpod

      The author of this article just "sips a seagull and lazily discusses the color of the boatswain's boots ...", CONSIDERING HIMSELF "defeated."

      You couple, didn’t read the article at all?
      The author speaks of a people who have no wings, spirit and prototype of the "kingdom of God" on earth.
      And you do not understand, start throwing slogans on how to be successful in an individual life :)
      1. lecturer
        lecturer 26 May 2013 16: 07 New
        +3
        YES, sir, I always see goals and throw out my slogans so that my students learn how to deal with the difficulties of life. And YOU THAT you saw in this article: ANSWERS, ADVICE or just a nonsense .... Yes, by the way, here's WHAT you like to end with the article you like:
        A Russian labor or military feat is accomplished when he intuitively realizes the real usefulness of this act. The public utility, even if the whole “society” to which the results of this feat will extend, consists of three of its comrades. A Russian accomplishes a feat when behind this feat stands a well-marked and from his point of view a just goal. If the goal is also great, then the Russian accomplishes the feat with a striking imagination. But if the goal is not there or it is unworthy or unfair, then he absolutely doesn’t care.
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 26 May 2013 16: 35 New
          0
          Quote: morpod
          И without global destination his efforts he pretty quickly do not care. AND without goal-oriented comrades he will not care. And no “zealous owner”, no “dictator”, no "business ethics", no "law-is-laws" will pull him out of this state.

          A worthy, fair goal, a direct link between activities and the public good able to create from the Russian uneducated peasant - a great scientist.

          Yes, this is precisely the end of the article, which speaks of a people living and working without a “global addressee,” “without associates,” or “a just goal.”
          What is the contradiction? Do you personally need this, or do you not consider the highlighted material for the people?
          Individual business training is useless. Here the overwhelming majority of people are successful people. And including me.
    3. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 26 May 2013 21: 28 New
      0
      Yes, the author does not read this! To do this, you need to think, and when? Just thinking, looking, someone somewhere somewhere chopped down or welded, offensive! There is no time to think something.
  • Horde
    Horde 26 May 2013 12: 59 New
    +2
    article is a description of one's worldview. There were times when we lived poorly, but merrily 50-60g of the last century, the millennium. Now, in my opinion, there is even no such concept ENTUZIAZM.After all, this is precisely the meaning of existence. And now? To what? Several articles passed on fuel how they killed enthusiasm in the Soviet people by introducing an EQUATION, DEFICIENCY.
    He doesn’t care.

    He doesn't even care about the TV he watches. No matter what they show. It is just a background that allows him to disconnect for a while from the reality otsofigevsheyu him. Do not observe an alternative reality, no, just disconnect from the one in which he constantly lives. This is just hypnosis.


    even! TV in general is a separate sore subject - this is a tool for introducing into the society lies, vulgarity, lack of taste, lack of spirituality, stupid meaningless information about anything, TV is just a picture with endless advertising, diluted with sickening, stupid programs ABOUT EXISTING PROBLEMS. But is the percentage of TV sales reduced? NO. In society, values ​​are being replaced and judging by the feedback from a part of the forum, this article is a successful replacement. "If society does not have differentiation in the color of pants, then there is no goal," such a way of life "do not care" will be the goal of the new society.
    There were articles of this kind when fuel mouse fuss called PAYMENT FOR WORK in many organizations is a HIDDEN UNEMPLOYMENT ALLOWANCE. And it doesn’t matter if you work better or if the assessment of your activity system will be very different from your own.

    The employee can not look for ways to improve production, if the only purpose thereof is to increase the amount of money in someone’s pocket.

    A scientist can not investigate something, if this study is only for a tick. To "master the budget."


    we understand that this is a very important principle for every Russian, as JUSTICE is poached and buried in this country completely. Giving up for 8 hours every day and realizing that you are working not for the country, not for the people, not for yourself personally, but for that uncle, who can change the rules of the game at any time, make him happy, raise his salary or make him unhappy to lower, or even wipe out on some pretext. In that country, we knew that we were part of society and society was considered with us, and now we are no part, each in itself and not a cautious word or “body movement” and the prospect of staying on the street becomes apparent. In a large city such as Moscow, the prospect of changing one is meaningless, working for the same to make money is quite simple, so a sense of DEFENSE to realize one’s potential takes place and for some people there is a growing protest in their souls against the “pofigisticheskogo” existence, as with the author, while others have already been elevated to the rank of the meaning of life.
    Where is the world heading?
    1. Normal
      Normal 26 May 2013 13: 41 New
      +2
      Horde
      Totally agree good drinks
  • 1st_user
    1st_user 26 May 2013 13: 05 New
    +1
    Here's a concrete example of patient cards in hospitals. In order to transfer all this to electronic document management, we also need money: we need to hire someone who will do this and will train employees in the hospital. And as always there is no money: almost nothing is allocated to the MUZ, and so it is also stolen. It is possible to force the workers themselves to learn new things according to self-instruction books, but they will require an increase in the salary for this, which again needs money.
    But in private paid clinics, everything was initially on electronic document management.
    In general, half of the above problems can be solved with money. But who wants to spend money on?
    The same applies to street signs and house numbers: maybe the money was allocated for this, only mysteriously evaporated in the pockets of officials.
    1. Atlon
      Atlon 26 May 2013 13: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: 1st_user
      In general, half of the above problems can be solved with money. But who wants to spend money on?

      It's a delusion! Many say: "for such a salary, say thank you for just coming!" But it is impossible to raise a salary without increasing labor productivity! Productivity is PRIMARY, it creates a salary! You can of course print ... But then inflation will eat up these "incomes" before productivity has time to rise. And she will not rise ... After all, they raised the salary? Well, why work hard?

      Quote: 1st_user
      The same applies to street signs and house numbers: maybe the money was allocated for this, only mysteriously evaporated in the pockets of officials.

      Maybe ... but what hinders if the house is private, to put a sign on it yourself? And if the house is multi-family, it’s even easier! How much does it cost to order such a tablet at the nearest advertising agency having thrown off all tenants for 3 copecks? You can blame officials and employers as much as you like, but officials left the people, and at one time, in their yard, they also did not bother to screw a light bulb, or pick up a cigarette butt. So why would they do this now?
      1. 1st_user
        1st_user 26 May 2013 22: 35 New
        0
        They always hang on a private house. And the fact that the house is private is not indicated in the article above. These were apartment buildings, of which there are really many without tablets. The problem of modernity is that even in a two-story 16-apartment building it is difficult to chip in 3 kopecks at times, and sometimes it can be difficult, but in a house with 8 entrances of 36 apartments, as we have, for example, there are 288 apartments, half of which are for rent rent or drunks live there, there is no organization at all. What an epic drama for intercoms was worth!
    2. Yuriwhite
      Yuriwhite 26 May 2013 20: 30 New
      0
      About informatization in medical institutions, I could write a book and more than one. In the first VO, I am a systems engineer and worked in the field of IT in various structures and in different positions. So there is nothing simpler than medical information systems (everything is stupid and trivial) and there is nothing more complicated than the implementation of this IP in healthcare facilities.
      In general, if it weren’t for the theft that is in medicine, then even in the rural UB or the Central District Hospital there were gold toilets. Sad but true.
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 26 May 2013 21: 50 New
        +1
        the main idea is that you can’t fill the problem with money, more and more will be needed, while our people will be worse and worse ...
  • sailor
    sailor 26 May 2013 13: 18 New
    +1
    article plus definitely! even now (not to mention youth) I am always surprised at this nonsense and there’s nothing to be done about it. It’s as if you run into a wall of incomprehension (do you need anything more?!?) or (Oh! you earn pluses!) Yes, and nobody (practically) wants to work. Most likely, trade is booming, so I bought it cheaply and sold it expensive.
  • Horde
    Horde 26 May 2013 13: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: morpod
    Walter D. Wintle


    have you seen enough Hollywood movies? You can consider yourself not conquered even a million times in your soul, using poems of this kind for your own stimulation, in which the same concept is duplicated by synonyms to give some meaning, but I only advise you not to use Hollywood products especially at night and then understanding will come their REAL capabilities. In general, a wintle to help you.
    1. lecturer
      lecturer 26 May 2013 16: 17 New
      +2
      No, sir! If I had cited a “verse” (words) from a Russian fable about “dragonfly and ant,” then I would not have understood who saw “nonsense” and became disillusioned with Russia! Therefore, I bring “staff” for them
      stimulation of this kind of rhyme in which the same concept is replicated by synonyms to give some meaning
      1. Horde
        Horde 26 May 2013 17: 36 New
        -1
        Quote: morpod
        from the Russian fable about the "dragonfly and the ant," then those who saw "do not care" and were disappointed in Russia would not understand!


        in general, "dragonfly and ant", our work and the Russian people are of course more understandable - the meaning was what he deserved, it’s a pity just not to the place of the current discussion, but your quote "never give up" looks more like making a good face in a bad game. For example, Putin in the election received 64% in my opinion, and for many others, sheer lies, or the abomination of juvenile justice, or the vileness of educational reform, or Serdyukovism, but this is state policy. You offer not to give up, but according to the laws of this state this is an article, extremism, so you can continue to fight or think so, but already in prison. It’s a pity that everything is so, but for now, it’s really not possible to do something. And why I think so? because I see that there is no real opposition to the opposition, all dissent or, rather, inaction is successfully suppressed, and hence disappointment.
        1. morprepud
          morprepud 26 May 2013 18: 46 New
          +2
          Why do I think so? because I see that there is no real opposition to the opposition, all dissent or, rather, inaction is successfully suppressed, and hence disappointment.

          - To each his own! Ah, the seaman! On such is Russia and stood! AND WILL stand, we are many !, those that you think
          - I got the meaning that I deserved, it’s a pity just not to the place of the current discussion, but your quote “never give up” looks more like making a good face in a bad game.
          ... It’s just that there’s no time for all kinds of "gossip gossip"!
          1. Horde
            Horde 26 May 2013 18: 59 New
            -1
            Quote: morprepud
            Ah, the seaman! On such is Russia and stood!

            Russia never used an alien Anglo-Saxon worldview, but always derived strength from its own culture.
            1. gladysheff2010
              gladysheff2010 26 May 2013 21: 38 New
              +1
              It’s not true! Apparently you taught history poorly, Russia always scooped up all the best, and the savvy people of Russia embodied everything taken in metal, stone, painting, sculpture! Read about our artists, architects, engineers! And it’s harmless to go to museums.
  • KononAV
    KononAV 26 May 2013 13: 32 New
    +4
    Extremely subjective article, I did not like raking everyone under one comb.